Theres no reason to worry, if everyone taked a piece of china, then everyone has a Lot of infamy so, as i remember if youre over 25 infamy you can't declare war on others for having over 25 infamy.
Quick Answer, China was barely too united that it couldn’t be played like India was, and it was too many people to rule, during the times of civil war, other colonial powers were too preoccupied with internal problems
@BSBadRandomsShorts yes, but also Britain and France were in absolutely no state to colonize, if ww1 never happened, Britain might actually exert influence if not outright colonize southern Chinese regions like guangxi and yunnan
China had way way more internal problems, and which civil war are you talking about ? From 1840s to 1949, tons of different civil wars have been ongoing at the same time in different parts of the country non-stop besides fighting foreign powers. Right after the 1st opium war in the 1850s and 1860s, China which hasn't even started the 1st modernization reform yet, was in the middle of the biggest civil war in human history, the Taiping rebellion, which killed more people than the entire WW1 combined, while fighting the UK and France in the 2nd opium war in the same period. 1840s to 1949 was more than 100 years of intertwined civil wars and external wars that foreign powers took advantage of by progressively taking very small colonies/concessions with unequal treaties, but you think that western powers were one civil war in China away from colonizing entire China ? Even before WW1, UK had to give autonomy to Canada, australia and New Zealand, started losing influence in neighboring Ireland and other parts in the world, world wars only accelerated the trends.
During the British colonial period in India, India was more disunified than China. China was in the Qing Dynasty and at least had a certain central authority.
0:38 A mistake here. Britain did not gain the right to trade opium as a result of the First Opium War. It wouldn't be until the Second Opium War that Great Qing had to legalize opium.
The new voice is good, other channels do the same and the vibe is completely different but you have made the transition smoothly. Another reason why this channel will succeed.
China is hardly unified back then Also the regular army of each dynasties can reach up to hundreds thousand, while biggest army can reach up to several millions people strength One single chinese civil war can reach up to 80 millions casualties, others up to 10-30 millions death toll In rome era... imagine that China is what if europe as one single kingdom, but everything is 10x the scaling, europe still nothing even with their flick guns and cannons, but europe hv the best naval strength tho
The algorithm just delivered me another banger of a channel. (if youre trying to establish a timeline, try to flash the year number on screen each time you say it)
Because before industrializacion it was very hard to produce a big amount of weapons, so it was hard to have big colonies in africa. So they just had ports and used slaves before
Before 1849, Portugal only had the right of abode in Macau in name. China had the final jurisdiction in Macau and stationed troops at the Border Gate. The Treaty 《澳夷善后事宜条议》 signed in 1749 showed that the Qing Dynasty had administrative and judicial power over Macau, including foreigners. It was not until 1849 that the Kingdom of Portugal stopped paying rent to the Qing government and occupied the Border Gate.
for the first 250 years, Portugual just paid annual rents in due amounts to the Ming dynasty and the following Qing dynasty govts for using Macau, a small piece of land in Guangdong, as a trading outpost. Then it came to the mid-19th century, as the Qing dynasty continued to weaken in power and lost the Opium War with Britain and ceded Hong Kong, not far away from Macau, Portugual smelt a chance and stopped paying rents to the Qing dynasty govt, only at this time, Macau became a Portuguese colony, the Qing govt signed a treaty to cede Macau to Portugual for perpetuity and colonized the town for 150 years until 1999 when the PRC took it back. In fact, the Portuguese already lost the control of the town in 1967 when the pro-Communist Macanese, under the support of the PRC, rebelled against the Porutuguese authorities due to the widespread corruption, exploitation and extortion of the local Chinese merchants by them. The local Chinese seized the control of Macau's administrative power and Portuguese rule became only symbolic on the surface. (see Wikipedia: 12-3 incident). Portual would like to return Macau to China in the 1970s but was refused by China because China didn't worry about Macau as it was already under the control of locals, what it worried about was the handover of Hong Kong from Britain. An early handover of Macau to China might spoil the negotiation with the British over Hong Kong's status. So China decided to put Hong Kong as the priority and refused Portugal's idea to return Macau in the 1970s. After Hong Kong came back in 1997, then Macau followed in 1999.
hello :D im from HK, thanks a lot for explaining it :) sometimes I'd like to ask my older relatives (as in 1-2nd generation) how it was, but prob not a good idea, it's very sensitive here. (you forgot to put HK as conquered territory of the japanese during ww2)
Because the great powers needed benefits. China was under the Qing government at that time. The Qing government kept the Han people ignorant to maintain its rule, which made the Qing Dynasty backward. The colonists were afraid that the Qing Dynasty would be overthrown and China would modernize rapidly. At this time, maintaining the rule of the Qing Dynasty and grabbing benefits from the Qing government was the best choice. China was really big. Even if the great powers fought against the Qing Dynasty, you would know that the scale of the war was very small if you looked at the number of people in the war. But such an insignificant war could force the Qing government to give up benefits. At that time, a large number of ignorant Chinese in other regions did not even know what was happening.The Qing government was afraid of being overthrown, so when facing Western invaders they just offered benefits. The Qing government would not really use all its national strength to resist, because this corrupt government just wanted to continue to exist. But civil war was different, it would really cost the Qing government its life, so you know why the casualties in the civil war were so serious. In the late Qing Dynasty,after Taiping Rebellion, the Qing government's army was actually insignificant, and local officials had a large number of armies. If the great powers chose to overthrow the Qing government, new separatist regimes would immediately emerge in other parts of China after receiving the news, and the great powers would also fall into a real civil war in China. The ownership of interests between the great powers was also a big problem
this is just nonsense taught in modern chinese history books by both the PRC and the ROC due to KMT bias, the Qing modernized and was far stronger than the ROC ever was. It was the fall of the Qing and later Yuan Shikai, that made interior China vulnerable for the first time in modern history. There would have been no Nanking massacre if the Qing government was around, because Japan simply did not have the ability to conquer all of coastal China under the qing. The Qing might have resisted less than it should, but at least it fought. The ROC outright gave up Manchuria withought a fight.
It is not that simple. In fact, since the death of Yuan Shikai, the so-called Republic of China has been in a state of division, with warlords fighting each other. If China could maintain unity and have a strong government, China would indeed modernize quickly, but unfortunately China quickly split. Outer Mongolia, Xinjiang, and Tibet also declared independence during this period. The Kuomintang later launched the Northern Expedition but it was not completely successful. The Northeast was ruled by another warlord, Zhang Xueliang. After the Japanese invasion, this warlord took the initiative to withdraw without any resistance. In a sense, he was also a historical sinner. Many warlords in the northwest and southwest regions only nominally submitted. There was also the Communist Party in the country. This was actually the most chaotic period in Chinese history. Japan was lucky to launch an aggressive war during the weakest period in China's entire history. It was not until after Japan invaded for a period of time that China gradually united to fight against Japan. In fact, if there were no external wars, China would eventually modernize quickly no matter who unified it, whether it was the Kuomintang or the Communist Party, or other Han warlords. Look at the development of Taiwan today and mainland China after the 1980s. But one regret is that the Communist Party ultimately won the victory. In its early days, China was isolated by the entire Western world and followed the Soviet Union on the wrong path. China took a detour, but fortunately the Communist Party realized its mistake.@@a1to8
@ The biggest regret is the Xinhai revolution itself in 1911, had the Qing not collapse, central power would never have split to begin with and Mongolia would still be under Chinese control.
@@a1to8 No, the independence of Khalkha Mongolia was all due to the Soviet Union, not the change of regime, because the fate of Outer Mongolia was not controlled by itself, and its fate depended only on China and Russia. If China under the Qing government continued to weaken, it is not ruled out that it would cede Outer Mongolia to Tsarist Russia, just like the Outer Northeast and Outer Northwest regions. During the warlord melee of the Republic of China, a Central Plains warlord actually sent troops to control Outer Mongolia, but eventually returned to the Central Plains to save the master, and Russia controlled Outer Mongolia again. After the end of World War II, China had all the reasons to refuse to recognize the independence of Outer Mongolia, just as they did to Tibet, but the Soviet Union was already stronger than the former Tsarist Russia, and China had to recognize the independence of Khalkha Mongolia. In fact, if it were not for the Soviet Union, Outer Mongolia would have taken the initiative to merge into China after the end of World War II without even resisting. There is nothing to explain, this is the only real reason. So China and Russia will never, ever be true friends.
@@玉初 Please, if the Qing never collapsed, Mongolia would never have been independent, period. You need to understand the very fundamental fact that the Qing is leagues more powerful than the ROC. The notion that the Qing will continue to weaken is ahistorical and nonsensical. You don't seem to be familiar with late Qing reforms and why the Xinhai Revolution is probably the most destructive Chinese revolution of the 20th century. The Qing was strengtehening, not weaknening after the New Policy of 1902, its revenue increased by 3 folds, railways were been built in large quantity, heavy industrialization was on its way, and its New Army was thoroughly modernized by 1911. All of this was put to a hiatus after 1911 and ROC propaganda would portray the Qing as continue rotting, when its the decentralized ROC that's rotting and weakening. The Qing migrated Chinese peasants to Xinjiang and Outer Mongolia throughout the 1900s, made Manchuria into three provinces, directly annexed Kham in 1908 and Tibet in 1910, annexed the Paracel islands in 1909, and was strenghtening its presence on the frontiers throughout. Russian military analysts even thought the Qing was a threat and no longer like before in 1908. All of these efforts were made useless by the Xinhai Revolution.
Because 1. Disease is irrelevant compared to the americas 2. Chinese continued to use large quantity of archers and guns that was comparible to the fighting capibilities of 18th century european armies considering that bows had a significant fire rate. By the 19th century when reliable rifles were adopted , the europeans were more interested in profiting from china than colonize 3. Size and population
Well at that point it isn’t even colonization is it? Letting foreigners trade on your land isn’t colonization. Japan was forced to open up trading ports to the Portuguese, Spanish and the Americans, why don’t we consider that as colonization? China still had a government with real powers over the entirety of china (other than a few port cities) they weren’t ruled over and they were sovereign with no suzerainty. You could say that a part of China was colonized because of Hong Kong, Macau, etc. But that argument also doesn’t make sense because then you could say Spain was colonized by British (still to this day) because of Gibraltar. You could argue that Japan colonized China as it occupied 40% of Chinas land during WW2, but with that argument France, Poland, USSR and many other European countries were colonized by Germany. No matter how you put it that wasn’t colonization, it’s still humiliating to Chinese people though
@BSBadRandomsShortsCultural colonization and forcing economic dependence is a type of colonization. Colonization doesn’t have to be by war and brute force only.
somewhere on youtube maybe strategystuff there is a Chinese person who points out that the Northern Plains Core sacrifices the periphery temporarily to maintain its own power. In other words, colonization of the southern treaty ports was partly a policy of Beijing to keep the southern treaty ports from getting "too big for their breeches"!
2:49 you used the wrong flag and the Republic of China took the whole territories back including Taiwan Province, it's not the People's Republic of China
china was never colonised. only a very small portion of china (hong kong and macau and some costal cities were occupied by the colonial powers at the time. over 90 percent of china was still in chinese hand.
also the usa was kind of cynical with china because they were more interested in using European ports to trade opium and goods without all the messy stuff involved.
China has been not colonised so far because Donald Trump is not there yet. China is going to be colonised anytime soon - from January 2025 to January 2028 - when Donald Trump assumes office again. DT will be extremely busy launching special military operations for Canada, Greenland, Mexico, and Panama in 2025, and he will commence such operation for China in 2026!
well the europeans and later the americans just grabbed all the best chunks of china and left the poor less useful area to the chinese. the exception being Japan who were rsther more interested in taking over large chunks of china. the japanese actually invaded china in the 1890s and had already started to annex parts of Manchuria. before completely annexing it altogether in the 1930s.
they succeeded in colonizing india. China was also technically a 'colony' but instead of to one country, it was like a colony of europe and the anglosphere.
@@LollipopLop 60% of the world's Mongolians are in China, and the Mongolian Golden Family is also in China, so I am more inclined to believe that the Mongolians are Chinese.
You study this history wrong. Ask around, how many times has china be conquered and fully colonized? During the Western colonial era in China and Korea, the emperor, empress are western puppets who latter abdicated the throne for civilian government, yet the monarchies in Europe remained fully intact. We must never forget the true horror of slavery history from the west so as not to allow a repeat again. This is one of the reasons I'm not against North Korea's Nuclear weapons. You may have poor military setup and strategies, but your nuclear arsenal stands tall as a deterrence and remembrance.
All countries were built on conquest and slavery. The West was just kind enough to admit it was wrong. The rest of the world are posers who are secretly envious of Western power.
@@telescopicS627 britain invading over 50% of the worlds land mass is nothing kind at all, britain never gave any form of reparation for destroying india, smuggling heroin into china, commit genocide upon multiple continents. The west's hands had the most blood from the rest
Thankfully unlike mongols Japanese survived Man I cannot live without anime , jpop or mangas and traveling to Japan was my favourite thing I love Japan
🇬🇧 we easily conquered tibet in 1904 but gave it away after. Beat china in first and second opium wars aswell as boxer rebellion and expedition to tibet, plus took part in taping rebellion. I think 🇬🇧 could have successfully conquerored large parts of china. Also dont forget about the informal empire in china
China barely had control over Tibet (impossible to in that era due to harsh terrain and weather), China had suzerainty over Tibet and that’s about it. And did you not watch the video? China was weak in sea battles, the two opium wars were primarily fought on water. Plus Britain had the strongest navy, that was your strong suit. China’s not the only one to lose to Britain on sea, almost EVERYONE did. If colonizing China was that simple, they would’ve done it. And it’s not because of ruling over such a big population is costly, because British colonized India which had more people than China. China was more so just like the Ottoman Empire, weak enough to be defeated, strong enough to maintain independence
Seeing how poorly independent countries have fared since the end of colonialism, in a few decades, many countries will by vying for a return to colonial status.
Pinned this so they won't misinterpret The other reason why China was not colonize is more than just they have more manpower with Wester superior of tech Millions of chinese had no match. 1) China is big having a new territory would mean a expensive to handle and rule directly. 2) Qing had suffer from disease and civil wars and it would be unstable for the colonial european. 3 ) China has a economy at its's own right so ruling directly means little to basically benefit the superpowers. 4) just like Japan on gun diplomacy China is wealthy of spices and silk and also Natural resources that could basically transported by Railroads. 6) Diplomacy was a thing but yet they lose the war so, opening up and accepting the ruling control over european powers is why China was not Fully colonized. 7) Border disputed over fellow european, just like pizza Europeans wants a big piece and not want to share, so having a buffer state is better. 8) What you said on Russia was a bit false because Russia don't really want to withdraw unless they have problem at home, Russia is unstable and they were on decline because they were late to industrialized, they also lose to Japan. So yeah if i missed something feel free to add.
One reason you forget is that most European powers thought China was to large to make a lucrative colonie ( India in fact almost bankrupted the UK at first)
Because it would have cost too much infamy which would have given every other country a cutdown size casus belli on the colonizers
ironically, taking china bit by bit is the meta regardless of who you play (especially if its a minor or a secondary)
Theres no reason to worry, if everyone taked a piece of china, then everyone has a Lot of infamy so, as i remember if youre over 25 infamy you can't declare war on others for having over 25 infamy.
@@PrinceofAcorn I didn't know that, that's cool
@luca_history just in case don't try it i don't remember if it's like that or it was a one mod thing.
@@HistorySpeedrun17If you want to do ahigh gdp run, it always involves china; you either become china by invading it or just play china at the start
It was a small battle with only 50 million deaths
'peaceful transition of power'
Very small indeed
Small af
Just 50 million
A small loan of 50 million dollars
I love the thumbnail image where the U.S. just randomly owns landlocked territory in China.
美国 X
买国 J
美國很最後大。
買國很好。
賣國很普通。
沒國不好。
没國不超級好。
每國不最後好。
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Axis and Allies moment
The protocol was seen as the most humiliating treaty in modern Chinese history, but the reparations wasn’t fully paid for various reasons.
Quick Answer, China was barely too united that it couldn’t be played like India was, and it was too many people to rule, during the times of civil war, other colonial powers were too preoccupied with internal problems
By the time of the Chinese civil war, the Chinese army was modernized to an extent that it’s not so easily defeated compared to the mid 1840s
@BSBadRandomsShorts yes, but also Britain and France were in absolutely no state to colonize, if ww1 never happened, Britain might actually exert influence if not outright colonize southern Chinese regions like guangxi and yunnan
China had way way more internal problems, and which civil war are you talking about ? From 1840s to 1949, tons of different civil wars have been ongoing at the same time in different parts of the country non-stop besides fighting foreign powers.
Right after the 1st opium war in the 1850s and 1860s, China which hasn't even started the 1st modernization reform yet, was in the middle of the biggest civil war in human history, the Taiping rebellion, which killed more people than the entire WW1 combined, while fighting the UK and France in the 2nd opium war in the same period.
1840s to 1949 was more than 100 years of intertwined civil wars and external wars that foreign powers took advantage of by progressively taking very small colonies/concessions with unequal treaties, but you think that western powers were one civil war in China away from colonizing entire China ?
Even before WW1, UK had to give autonomy to Canada, australia and New Zealand, started losing influence in neighboring Ireland and other parts in the world, world wars only accelerated the trends.
Too pre-occopied that they sent armies in China and forced her in unequal treaties.
During the British colonial period in India, India was more disunified than China. China was in the Qing Dynasty and at least had a certain central authority.
Qing was not a competitive government, but it's still a government.
0:38 A mistake here. Britain did not gain the right to trade opium as a result of the First Opium War. It wouldn't be until the Second Opium War that Great Qing had to legalize opium.
The new voice is good, other channels do the same and the vibe is completely different but you have made the transition smoothly. Another reason why this channel will succeed.
Another vid from my favourite youtuber this is a good start to my day
China is hardly unified back then
Also the regular army of each dynasties can reach up to hundreds thousand, while biggest army can reach up to several millions people strength
One single chinese civil war can reach up to 80 millions casualties, others up to 10-30 millions death toll
In rome era... imagine that
China is what if europe as one single kingdom, but everything is 10x the scaling, europe still nothing even with their flick guns and cannons, but europe hv the best naval strength tho
China is like when people ask "what if Africa was a single country?"
太平天国和清政府战争就死了1.2亿……这也是中国落后的开始
Sino soviet split next?
History Matters has already got a video on that, I believe, so there's not much I could really add👍
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@@HistorySpeedrun17 fair, what about the French Union?
what the freak is the US doing in Sinkiang
Same as the rest.
What they tried but failed in neighboring Afghanistan recently
The algorithm just delivered me another banger of a channel.
(if youre trying to establish a timeline, try to flash the year number on screen each time you say it)
I like your mapping style, make more alternate history videos!!
Speaking of colonization, would it be possible to talk about why Africa was colonized so late?
Simple answer is disease. Took a long time for Europeans to develop medicines to deal with tropical diseases.
Lack of Railways
@@Indo-Aryan9644 malaria
powerful diseases that couldn't make it possbile.
Because before industrializacion it was very hard to produce a big amount of weapons, so it was hard to have big colonies in africa. So they just had ports and used slaves before
The editing is top notch
would be a nightmare to colonize them
Portugal just chilling with Macau for 400+ years
Before 1849, Portugal only had the right of abode in Macau in name. China had the final jurisdiction in Macau and stationed troops at the Border Gate. The Treaty 《澳夷善后事宜条议》 signed in 1749 showed that the Qing Dynasty had administrative and judicial power over Macau, including foreigners. It was not until 1849 that the Kingdom of Portugal stopped paying rent to the Qing government and occupied the Border Gate.
Macau is so small that it doesn't even matter that much except for gamblers
for the first 250 years, Portugual just paid annual rents in due amounts to the Ming dynasty and the following Qing dynasty govts for using Macau, a small piece of land in Guangdong, as a trading outpost.
Then it came to the mid-19th century, as the Qing dynasty continued to weaken in power and lost the Opium War with Britain and ceded Hong Kong, not far away from Macau, Portugual smelt a chance and stopped paying rents to the Qing dynasty govt, only at this time, Macau became a Portuguese colony, the Qing govt signed a treaty to cede Macau to Portugual for perpetuity and colonized the town for 150 years until 1999 when the PRC took it back.
In fact, the Portuguese already lost the control of the town in 1967 when the pro-Communist Macanese, under the support of the PRC, rebelled against the Porutuguese authorities due to the widespread corruption, exploitation and extortion of the local Chinese merchants by them. The local Chinese seized the control of Macau's administrative power and Portuguese rule became only symbolic on the surface. (see Wikipedia: 12-3 incident). Portual would like to return Macau to China in the 1970s but was refused by China because China didn't worry about Macau as it was already under the control of locals, what it worried about was the handover of Hong Kong from Britain. An early handover of Macau to China might spoil the negotiation with the British over Hong Kong's status. So China decided to put Hong Kong as the priority and refused Portugal's idea to return Macau in the 1970s. After Hong Kong came back in 1997, then Macau followed in 1999.
hello :D im from HK, thanks a lot for explaining it :) sometimes I'd like to ask my older relatives (as in 1-2nd generation) how it was, but prob not a good idea, it's very sensitive here. (you forgot to put HK as conquered territory of the japanese during ww2)
It’s giving history matters
+1 like and comment for the algorithm, from a real person.
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Because the great powers needed benefits. China was under the Qing government at that time. The Qing government kept the Han people ignorant to maintain its rule, which made the Qing Dynasty backward. The colonists were afraid that the Qing Dynasty would be overthrown and China would modernize rapidly. At this time, maintaining the rule of the Qing Dynasty and grabbing benefits from the Qing government was the best choice. China was really big. Even if the great powers fought against the Qing Dynasty, you would know that the scale of the war was very small if you looked at the number of people in the war. But such an insignificant war could force the Qing government to give up benefits. At that time, a large number of ignorant Chinese in other regions did not even know what was happening.The Qing government was afraid of being overthrown, so when facing Western invaders they just offered benefits. The Qing government would not really use all its national strength to resist, because this corrupt government just wanted to continue to exist. But civil war was different, it would really cost the Qing government its life, so you know why the casualties in the civil war were so serious. In the late Qing Dynasty,after Taiping Rebellion, the Qing government's army was actually insignificant, and local officials had a large number of armies. If the great powers chose to overthrow the Qing government, new separatist regimes would immediately emerge in other parts of China after receiving the news, and the great powers would also fall into a real civil war in China. The ownership of interests between the great powers was also a big problem
this is just nonsense taught in modern chinese history books by both the PRC and the ROC due to KMT bias, the Qing modernized and was far stronger than the ROC ever was. It was the fall of the Qing and later Yuan Shikai, that made interior China vulnerable for the first time in modern history. There would have been no Nanking massacre if the Qing government was around, because Japan simply did not have the ability to conquer all of coastal China under the qing. The Qing might have resisted less than it should, but at least it fought. The ROC outright gave up Manchuria withought a fight.
It is not that simple. In fact, since the death of Yuan Shikai, the so-called Republic of China has been in a state of division, with warlords fighting each other. If China could maintain unity and have a strong government, China would indeed modernize quickly, but unfortunately China quickly split. Outer Mongolia, Xinjiang, and Tibet also declared independence during this period. The Kuomintang later launched the Northern Expedition but it was not completely successful. The Northeast was ruled by another warlord, Zhang Xueliang. After the Japanese invasion, this warlord took the initiative to withdraw without any resistance. In a sense, he was also a historical sinner. Many warlords in the northwest and southwest regions only nominally submitted. There was also the Communist Party in the country. This was actually the most chaotic period in Chinese history. Japan was lucky to launch an aggressive war during the weakest period in China's entire history. It was not until after Japan invaded for a period of time that China gradually united to fight against Japan. In fact, if there were no external wars, China would eventually modernize quickly no matter who unified it, whether it was the Kuomintang or the Communist Party, or other Han warlords. Look at the development of Taiwan today and mainland China after the 1980s. But one regret is that the Communist Party ultimately won the victory. In its early days, China was isolated by the entire Western world and followed the Soviet Union on the wrong path. China took a detour, but fortunately the Communist Party realized its mistake.@@a1to8
@ The biggest regret is the Xinhai revolution itself in 1911, had the Qing not collapse, central power would never have split to begin with and Mongolia would still be under Chinese control.
@@a1to8 No, the independence of Khalkha Mongolia was all due to the Soviet Union, not the change of regime, because the fate of Outer Mongolia was not controlled by itself, and its fate depended only on China and Russia. If China under the Qing government continued to weaken, it is not ruled out that it would cede Outer Mongolia to Tsarist Russia, just like the Outer Northeast and Outer Northwest regions. During the warlord melee of the Republic of China, a Central Plains warlord actually sent troops to control Outer Mongolia, but eventually returned to the Central Plains to save the master, and Russia controlled Outer Mongolia again. After the end of World War II, China had all the reasons to refuse to recognize the independence of Outer Mongolia, just as they did to Tibet, but the Soviet Union was already stronger than the former Tsarist Russia, and China had to recognize the independence of Khalkha Mongolia. In fact, if it were not for the Soviet Union, Outer Mongolia would have taken the initiative to merge into China after the end of World War II without even resisting. There is nothing to explain, this is the only real reason. So China and Russia will never, ever be true friends.
@@玉初 Please, if the Qing never collapsed, Mongolia would never have been independent, period. You need to understand the very fundamental fact that the Qing is leagues more powerful than the ROC. The notion that the Qing will continue to weaken is ahistorical and nonsensical. You don't seem to be familiar with late Qing reforms and why the Xinhai Revolution is probably the most destructive Chinese revolution of the 20th century. The Qing was strengtehening, not weaknening after the New Policy of 1902, its revenue increased by 3 folds, railways were been built in large quantity, heavy industrialization was on its way, and its New Army was thoroughly modernized by 1911. All of this was put to a hiatus after 1911 and ROC propaganda would portray the Qing as continue rotting, when its the decentralized ROC that's rotting and weakening. The Qing migrated Chinese peasants to Xinjiang and Outer Mongolia throughout the 1900s, made Manchuria into three provinces, directly annexed Kham in 1908 and Tibet in 1910, annexed the Paracel islands in 1909, and was strenghtening its presence on the frontiers throughout. Russian military analysts even thought the Qing was a threat and no longer like before in 1908. All of these efforts were made useless by the Xinhai Revolution.
Because 1. Disease is irrelevant compared to the americas 2. Chinese continued to use large quantity of archers and guns that was comparible to the fighting capibilities of 18th century european armies considering that bows had a significant fire rate. By the 19th century when reliable rifles were adopted , the europeans were more interested in profiting from china than colonize 3. Size and population
Hey, can we do a collaboration?
And now the Dragon has awoken from its slumber.
Lmao what are Rostislav1917 political views ?
they were. just more discretly
Well at that point it isn’t even colonization is it? Letting foreigners trade on your land isn’t colonization. Japan was forced to open up trading ports to the Portuguese, Spanish and the Americans, why don’t we consider that as colonization? China still had a government with real powers over the entirety of china (other than a few port cities) they weren’t ruled over and they were sovereign with no suzerainty. You could say that a part of China was colonized because of Hong Kong, Macau, etc. But that argument also doesn’t make sense because then you could say Spain was colonized by British (still to this day) because of Gibraltar. You could argue that Japan colonized China as it occupied 40% of Chinas land during WW2, but with that argument France, Poland, USSR and many other European countries were colonized by Germany. No matter how you put it that wasn’t colonization, it’s still humiliating to Chinese people though
@BSBadRandomsShortsCultural colonization and forcing economic dependence is a type of colonization. Colonization doesn’t have to be by war and brute force only.
@BSBadRandomsShorts you're confusing imperialism with colonialism
2:45 Where is Republic of China?
Its ded
@@thecrab3128Nope. Republic of China still exists. It’s Capitol is Taipei.
@@AceKing-h3j Nope, RoC is effectively ded. Nobody even use this name outside of history channel.
@ Not dead if it still exists. Keep on trying to lie to yourself 50c troll.
China was colonised by the Liao, Western Xia, Jin, Yuan, and Qing dynasties.
somewhere on youtube maybe strategystuff there is a Chinese person who points out that the Northern Plains Core sacrifices the periphery temporarily to maintain its own power. In other words, colonization of the southern treaty ports was partly a policy of Beijing to keep the southern treaty ports from getting "too big for their breeches"!
is it ur real voice or AI?
Ai
2:49 you used the wrong flag and the Republic of China took the whole territories back including Taiwan Province, it's not the People's Republic of China
one china
china was never colonised. only a very small portion of china (hong kong and macau and some costal cities were occupied by the colonial powers at the time. over 90 percent of china was still in chinese hand.
China was colonized by Mongols and Manchus
The Real Reason:
After 1911
KMT
After 1927
CCP
Because colonization is expensive, even Britain regretted colonizing India.
also the usa was kind of cynical with china because they were more interested in using European ports to trade opium and goods without all the messy stuff involved.
Because it would be costly to maintain the high population of the Chinese.
China has been not colonised so far because Donald Trump is not there yet.
China is going to be colonised anytime soon - from January 2025 to January 2028 - when Donald Trump assumes office again.
DT will be extremely busy launching special military operations for Canada, Greenland, Mexico, and Panama in 2025, and he will commence such operation for China in 2026!
让他快来点吧，我会给他好果子吃。
why tawa would be china have its dividance be 美国??
nonsenze
well the europeans and later the americans just grabbed all the best chunks of china and left the poor less useful area to the chinese. the exception being Japan who were rsther more interested in taking over large chunks of china.
the japanese actually invaded china in the 1890s and had already started to annex parts of Manchuria. before completely annexing it altogether in the 1930s.
Cus we are gangsta. The most competent group of people in the world
Actually Japan occupied China in 1940...
Classic blunder. “Never get involved in a land war in Asia.”
They all lacked the support of James Bissonnette
They are, from Mongols and Manchus.
Good video
what about the Sino-Nepalese war?
No power could swallow it up, so they remained a fragile balance that kept the Qing regime around😊
殖民不是目的，只是为了利益，把清朝当提款机而已没必要亲力而为
Actually it was the Europeans did colonize China but didn’t succeed, just like India.
they succeeded in colonizing india. China was also technically a 'colony' but instead of to one country, it was like a colony of europe and the anglosphere.
Why the hell would mongolia, turkestan be under the US?
this was horribly made.
simply, too big
Not really, the huge it was the greater the territory.
Wasn’t yuan dynasty colonized the Chinese
Mongolians are also Chinese, just from a different ethnic group
@@Y8HL689it was not lol
It’s controlled by Manchus which mongols helped
@@Airwings7Kingthey are not Chinese when Mongolia is an independent country
@@LollipopLop 60% of the world's Mongolians are in China, and the Mongolian Golden Family is also in China, so I am more inclined to believe that the Mongolians are Chinese.
learn history😅@@LollipopLop
这就是义和团运动的意义
never
And Taiwan!😮
You study this history wrong.
Ask around, how many times has china be conquered and fully colonized?
During the Western colonial era in China and Korea, the emperor, empress are western puppets who latter abdicated the throne for civilian government, yet the monarchies in Europe remained fully intact.
We must never forget the true horror of slavery history from the west so as not to allow a repeat again.
This is one of the reasons I'm not against North Korea's Nuclear weapons.
You may have poor military setup and strategies, but your nuclear arsenal stands tall as a deterrence and remembrance.
中国从来没有被征服过，进来的只能接受我们文化和我们同化，否则没有一个能成功
All countries were built on conquest and slavery. The West was just kind enough to admit it was wrong. The rest of the world are posers who are secretly envious of Western power.
@@telescopicS627 britain invading over 50% of the worlds land mass is nothing kind at all, britain never gave any form of reparation for destroying india, smuggling heroin into china, commit genocide upon multiple continents.
The west's hands had the most blood from the rest
@@老子就是中国人the Mongolians almost succeeded though 😂
Remember genghis khan that guy was as badass
Thankfully unlike mongols
Japanese survived
Man I cannot live without anime , jpop or mangas and traveling to Japan was my favourite thing I love Japan
There is still one last handover yet to occur. They are still clinging on to the mainland to this day
🇬🇧 we easily conquered tibet in 1904 but gave it away after. Beat china in first and second opium wars aswell as boxer rebellion and expedition to tibet, plus took part in taping rebellion. I think 🇬🇧 could have successfully conquerored large parts of china. Also dont forget about the informal empire in china
It was simply too costly to occupy china
Manchu people were bad at governance
Bro your country is being invaded by Muslims. You got nothing left
China barely had control over Tibet (impossible to in that era due to harsh terrain and weather), China had suzerainty over Tibet and that’s about it. And did you not watch the video? China was weak in sea battles, the two opium wars were primarily fought on water. Plus Britain had the strongest navy, that was your strong suit. China’s not the only one to lose to Britain on sea, almost EVERYONE did. If colonizing China was that simple, they would’ve done it. And it’s not because of ruling over such a big population is costly, because British colonized India which had more people than China. China was more so just like the Ottoman Empire, weak enough to be defeated, strong enough to maintain independence
🤣joke
Seeing how poorly independent countries have fared since the end of colonialism, in a few decades, many countries will by vying for a return to colonial status.
Do the Chinese even know about Sino French war?
No
yeah, we do
Yes, We do, it's literally taught there. That's why all chinese know about the burning of the summer palace by british and french troops.
Pinned this so they won't misinterpret The other reason why China was not colonize is more than just they have more manpower with Wester superior of tech Millions of chinese had no match.
1) China is big having a new territory would mean a expensive to handle and rule directly.
2) Qing had suffer from disease and civil wars and it would be unstable for the colonial european.
3 ) China has a economy at its's own right so ruling directly means little to basically benefit the superpowers.
4) just like Japan on gun diplomacy China is wealthy of spices and silk and also Natural resources that could basically transported by Railroads.
6) Diplomacy was a thing but yet they lose the war so, opening up and accepting the ruling control over european powers is why China was not Fully colonized.
7) Border disputed over fellow european, just like pizza Europeans wants a big piece and not want to share, so having a buffer state is better.
8) What you said on Russia was a bit false because Russia don't really want to withdraw unless they have problem at home, Russia is unstable and they were on decline because they were late to industrialized, they also lose to Japan.
So yeah if i missed something feel free to add.
because the chinese kicked them out.
Why not? 🗿
Portuguese Macao 🇲🇴 🤝🇵🇹
NO
不
中国澳门
One reason you forget is that most European powers thought China was to large to make a lucrative colonie ( India in fact almost bankrupted the UK at first)
你们列强各国都想拥有在华利益，一个国家在中国的利益大于其余七国那些国家就会抵制那个在华利益最大的利益国，从而保持了一种奇怪的平衡
Russia has more resources than china what are you talking? 💀
Also Russia wanted to take Manchuria btw but failed
利益就是直接殖民
大人，时代变了。 现在是我们喊:开门，自由贸易! 了哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
Aren’t communist anymore huh?
I know you adopted our system called capitalism
@LollipopLop 孩砸，我们那叫社会主义哦
@@LollipopLop We have not attacked Europe, please do not call us capitalism.
@@liangqiang1133 you indeed installed capitalism idiot
Without it your country won’t function properly especially money
@@liangqiang1133 your country is literally socialist + capitalism With Chinese characteristics I did not say your a democratic nation 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦