What makes ALL songs great?
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Andy is a drummer, producer and educator. He has toured the world with rock legend Robert Plant and played on classic prog albums by Frost and IQ.
As a drum clinician he has played with Terry Bozzio, Kenny Aronoff, Thomas Lang, Marco Minneman and Mike Portnoy.
He also teaches drums privately and at Kidderminster College
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Hi Andy wrong place to comment but I can't find the video of yours I just watched, in which you mentioned Robson and Jerome and I wanted to comment so here goes.
I must say I find modern pop alien and bewildering. But no more so than 80's pop...
Good that you are doing well on your channel!
I think about Sally Go Round The Roses, The Last Time, Shang A Lang...Common People and Live Forever, maintaining a singular vision.
I never had a problem with manufacturing, as a Monkees fan but, I think the problem now is the decline in the art. I think The Monkees was often good art. I think pop went to seed many, many years ago, that it is still a very important medium, and that it's down to the creaters to create music as magical as that which moved mountains decades ago.
You look at Harry Styles Yungblood etc, the vocal melodies aren't there, the production is clever, but it is all so slick. I was optomistic, but when I heard the stuff, the songwriting isn't really there.
Haven't these peoople heard You've Lost That Loving Feeling?
I see their output as a continuum, but it is struggling to hold up which I find hard to understand, bearing in mind the glories of the past. Yungblood has a good jacket, though. All the best from Brum
A true music philosopher and comedian. 😂 Love how comfortable you take the piss outta anything and everything including yourself. Love it. Thank you for plodding on!!!
Andy, my man. You are a music philosopher. Something that is much needed in this world. And I'd much rather listen to this than details about chords & theory. There is a human element that seems to be missing so much.
If Rick ever sees this, I think you pitched it just about right. Not too desperate, not too nonchalant. Nailed it.
Quite desperate sounding. But I still like Andy's channel.
In my view, what makes a song great is a combination of a great theme (lyrics), great melodies, great harmony, great rhythm, great production, great aesthetics, great playing.
Bravo Andy. I had this same discussion with a friend. As a non musician i think sometimes musicians like Rick overstate the technical flair that musicians can hear but the rest of us do not.
I believe it's about how the music makes you feel--if that's what you're being is craving or not--during the listening (or playing) experience.
You said "second part of my talk" at 21:58 and the vid is 44 min. Drummer's precision!
He is a drummer, he has good time lol.
Andy and Rick pairing up ? ! A late Xmas present for us all
I wish....Love Rick...
The shameless and desperate pleading was very good. Beato may have his people look at your request, but your channel deserves many more subs.
Brilliant analysis, Andy. Very insightful. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Beato's still right.
I've recently discovered your channel and you have a depth of knowledge about music that, personally, is more raw and human than Rick's channel. You may not know it, but your views on the history of music is amazing. I've watched so many of hid vids, but you're videos are better. You are a raconteur par excellence.
You are very kind
👏👏
I loved this video. You were in the flow. It was very enjoyable hearing you talk about this subject. It makes me want to listen to the songs and artists with new ears.
Thank you...that is all i ask, that I can get people loving music
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer great verbal improv, coherent and meaningful. rare on TH-cam
Ricks my friend. I’ll send him the link now!
Thank you for this video Andy. You've made me realize why I've been in a creative wasteland. I lost track of the fact that great music has to SAY something. I've been attempting to compose creative songs that don't actually SAY anything. It's like trying to write an engaging story by using uncommon words and really creative fonts!
This is fantastic. I am a teacher and what Andy shows here is an marvelous example of how a really good teacher can deliver a the essence of a big chunk of quite complicated theory with simple and entertaining examples. Beato may be good at teaching but Andy is a god of teaching.
related story about the power going out. I saw Emerson Lake & Powell (not Palmer) in 1986 I think, at the Providence Performing Arts Center in Rhode Island. In the middle of the show, the electricity went down. It took Cozy a few seconds to realize he was the only one playing. But the band left the stage. The power came back on about 20 minutes later, the band came out and Greg Lake said, "Right, we were on bar 82" and he counted off and the band started back up in the middle of the measure in the middle of the song and continued playing it until the end. I thought that was a very Emerson Lake and (Powell) kind of thing to do.
Great episode, Andy. Loved your insight, as I've often wondered about these topics myself.
Glad you enjoyed it!
YES YES YES "Friends will be friends" = I was singing this LOUD AND PROUD, semi lucid, as a young lad, growing up in Munich, walking home at 1am, downtown, the year was 1992-ish YOU ARE 100% CORRECT LOVE YOU ANDY LOVE YOU RICK!
I think this video is one of your best! The breadth and depth of subject matter you cover and the entertainment you provide is INCREDIBLE! You’re the best person on social media.
Lol. I agree, the most important element is what the song is about. You remind us that music appreciation is a skill, and that we should be careful about being dismissive. My greatest song is Amazing Grace.
Andy!! I love your content! The reason Rick Beato wouldn't have this moment in a video of his is simply because he spends a great deal of planning his content in advance. He's mentioned this in one of his videos (I think, if I recall correctly), and you can tell he spends time thinking about what he's going to say and what he wants to convey through the editing of each video, as well. I am a HUGE fan or Rick Beato, and I just can't say anything bad about the guy because of how much I appreciate him and his way of making TH-cam videos. I love how you, on the other hand, have this more casual and spontaneous style in your videos. Now, Rick Beato does this during his live streams, so let's not forget where Rick shines in his own spontaneity! But, ultimately, I would absolutely LOVE to see Andy and Rick collaborate on a video. It could be a fun self-referential video about each artist's channel and whose channel is better (for kicks, not for real of course!), or it could be an interesting video about the depth of specific songs from the progressive rock/jazz fusion era. You guys could also have a fun conversation about the entire notion of "Top 10 Rock Guitar Shredders" or any "Top 10...." videos and what it is about these videos that make viewers gravitate towards this theme. I personally think there is something about a top 10 or top 20 ranking that reels people in.... Rankings can be fun, so it's simply about how we listen to music and why we think one composition is superior to another. Ah, music..... I love you too much to express in words.
I meant "fan of Rick Beato," which I think is obvious, but just covering my tracks!
I'm a big fan of Rick too and he is a huge inspiration for me
I'm actually assisting an author with an upcoming book that will attempt to answer this question with actual evidence based observations and patterns that appear in songwriting. It's called "SongMatrix: How Songwriting Really Works" by Wayne Chase. It'll have insights that not even popular Berkley courses teach because a lot of the suggestions within the book will be geared for writing timeless masterpieces and not disposable "hits" that almost every other songwriting school or "brand" attempts to teach based on opinion rather than measurable fact.
You cannot measure quality, only quantity
@Andy Edwards actually you can, check the website that he mentioned, it disproves your statement
@@OurgasmComrade I did and I was not convinced. They make the categorical error in stating they can measure quality. How do you do that? I don't believe you can. How would you measure the idea of novelty, which I think is a key aspec t of compelling songs. Or say storytelling? A song is not it's structure , it is the summation of form and content. These ideas only address the form, and even then do not address the aesthetic aspects of form. That is of a different realm
@Andy Edwards hey sorry for the late reply, I will have a more detailed answer later as I've been collaborating in some projects with the author and we will have sample songs written by multiple participants using the methods the site mentions, those same methods (or composition techniques) that all the songwriters on that collage used. It's no accident that Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Kate Bush, Chris Cornell, The Beatles, and Burt Bacharach all used similar techniques, the only difference is their choice of words, keys, tempos, combinations of musical parameters, etc. That can all be learned by any writer who is interested, so what makes those older artists any more "cosmically gifted" than let's say Tracy Chapman or Beck? (They also used a handful of the same techniques just in different combinations). Song quality can actually be measured by how many specific writing techniques exist in the song's lyrics, melody, harmony, and rhythmic aspects. If an "optimal" amount of techniques are used, it's highly likely the song will register high emotional impact in the listener and will create a long term memory of the song. If you are open to it, I'd love to share those samples in the future when all the lead sheets and recordings are publicly released so you can give us your feedback!
Andy, you are a brilliant lovely man!
Lester Young , the great tenor sax player with Basie and Billie Holliday, would always ask to hear the lyrics of a song before he’d play it. As one of Charlie Parker’s inspirations, it’s likely that Bird and in turn, Miles took the same approach.
Once you get bazillion subscribers, trust me, thats when he will have you on.
Ultimately it is all about the chorus - the bit where the audience to get to be directly involved in the music. The strength of the chorus depends on how the melodic phrase interacts with the harmony and the rhythmic pulse.
One of you're best Andy. Looking forward to hearing you wax lyrical about the songs.
I vowed this year to be less structured, turn the camera on and just talk. Those videos are always the best
@Andy Edwards Indeed they are...makes it more conversational, albeit a one-sided one😄
A bit late to this one... but while I think you are fundamentally right, I think Beato is perhaps talking about something a little different. When he asks "what makes this song great?" I think he's talking about a recording, a recording that's been released as a song that has been written, then arranged, then recorded, mixed, and mastered to become a finished record. A couple of examples might be Every Breath You Take, or A Day in the Life. I'm not sure anyone is thinking about what these songs are about when they are initially being caught up in them. We may eventually ask the question, but initially it's more about the impact of the recording. When we first heard them we were captivated by the song, the instrumentation, the vocal delivery, etc.. As time went on since there was meaning under the covers, they became more interesting. But I really think it's the whole package that makes it great. Another example might be Take It Easy as recorded by the Eagles, mostly written by Jackson Browne. The Eagles and Jackson Browne both recorded the song, but most would say the Eagles version is the GREAT version... same song! Rick Beato is perhaps thinking about more than just the melody and the lyrics. BTW, I think We Are the Champions is fine at a football game, but other than that it wouldn't make my top 1000 list regardless of how it's recorded. Bohemian Rhapsody on the other hand is a GREAT song.
both of my favorite channels on the same episode? No way. Too good to be true.
I'm afraid it's a cheap attempt to get Rick's attention.....
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer - 😀
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer figured out half way through. LOL. Was really great anyway. I have some ideas for you. If you want to talk. I feel a bit the same about love for Rick, but I dig your cbannel just as much.
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer i loved that part
I always say that the most important people in band, by far, are the drummer and the singer, everybody else could be replaced. Look at all the great bands (subjective). They have great drummers and great singers.
By this logic Phil Collins is the one ring to rule them all....
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Phil is a fucking great musician, and he could do whatever he wants, LOL
Thank you so much for putting out these videos. As a drummer and songwriter, I really value for philosophical perspective on things. Bravo!
Happy New Year! Andy on Rick Beato in 2023
Frank Zappa is a master story teller using both written and oral traditions. “Montana”, a delicious deadpan lampoon of the American Dream in the form of the Romantic Cowboy and the Business Tycoon. The “Don’t Eat the Yellow Snow” suite is a brilliant surrealist adolescent male dream sequence; “I dreamed I was an Eskimo... good morning your highness”. Story telling and music are as old as time.
I like your channel more than Rick's, and I really like Rick's channel
Same here! Some of Beato’s videos are brilliant but not every one of his videos appeals to me. I am a non musician and I find every one of Andy’s videos interesting, his presentation works for both musicians and non-musicians better than Rick, for me 😁
Aww 👌
You are both too kind....
A small voice in the wilderness here Andy, but your little channel has quickly joined Rick's and Fil's ('Wings of Pegasus') as among my favourite TH-cam channels made by music lovers who also just happen to be accomplished musicians. Your plaintive epistle will no doubt grab Rick's attention (yes, I know it's all just a bit of fun), and your invitation is sure to follow...
I love both those channels too...I have not checked out Wings of Pegasus for a while now....
What i love about Rick's channel is he breaks down songs with a guitar in hand showing different aspects etc. Would love to see you play more drums in a similar way showing us aspects of what you love about songs and styles in real time on the drums. Maybe sit behind the kit whilst filming and when inspiration hits play away.
The critical opinion of a song and it’s greatness is whether the assessment is from the outside looking in (Andy’s perspective) or from the the inside looking out (Rick’s perspective). We are lucky to have both of their perspectives and love them both. C’mon Rick give Andy a peak!
Thanks Andy for your more realistic take on what makes songs great, keep it up. Thoroughly entertaining and educating as well. I love songs I look forward to your favourite songs video. Stay well.
Much appreciated!
Wow! Cried laughing. Hilarious, Andy. I was just thinking how great it would be for you and Rick to chat.
I have some ideas for your channel. Get in touch with me and maybe we can talk. You're channel is great, this video was really fun, I think you're on to something here. Really love ya, and Rick too.
He usually breaks down songs using guitar, guitar being his go-to instrument. Maybe you could do a similar series with drums?
Spot on takes on what makes songs compelling to us. Production and all those things in most cases is basically icing on the cake.
I'm a simple man I guess. To me the way it sounds is what matters. I could even do without lyrics. Tracks by Niagara, Cymande or Hawkwind for example I really like.. Lyrics come second for me. But yes sometimes the lyrics will add an extra layer of greatness. Bohemian Rhapsody, Stairway To Heaven or Dylan songs. Bottom line for me is there are different types of greatness. Great music don't need lyrics and great lyrics don't need epic music.
Absolutely one of the best videos on your channel! I appreciate your insight and thoughtfulness. I have listened to music (and even performed a little) over the 75 years I have been orbiting the sun, but this video gives me a different appreciation for what I have often taken for granted. Keep up this line of thought and please keep your promise... get surreal!
Thank you, Andy. I love these philosophical videos of yours and I always find something new to take away and think about. Also love the humour. Great stuff as ever.
Yes something that you can identify with. But also, there is something in a riff lets say, that you immediately get with somehow. " 7 Nation Army" for example. So there's a musical property present also(not verbal) that you can get with.
Love Rick's channel too!! Been watching him for years!!!
"If something is worth doing, it's worth doing badly" originated with G.K. Chesterton.
Wow! Agree 100% with "lyric blindness" and Joni Mitchell!! I had the exact same experience!
I'm glad that you covered this topic and that you mentioned lyric blindness, from which I suffer. What I would say is that even if a song is great because of what it is about, it doesn't have to relate to the meaning that the composer or writer had in mind. Riffs, melodies, grooves, rhythms, harmonies, timbre cam all mean something to me that I take and run with; sometimes they give me the strength to go on against all odds when the song might be intrinsically about something completely unrelated. It's a bit like the difference between exegesis and eisegesis in theology. And in relation to that Miles tune, I would never have gotten the 'real meaning' from it as you described, but I love it. The signifier represents the subject for another signifier
I am a subscriber to both Rick and Andy's channels and enjoy both of them. That does not mean I agree completely with either of them all the time. I am not sure how Rick would actually go on the topic of what makes ALL songs great, he has done several videos on what makes specific well known songs great. In most cases, he goes into the artistry used in playing the various parts of the song, and the efforts used in tying all those parts together. You first point about if something is worth doing it is worth doing it badly, it probably closer to the point, as regards to popularity of a piece of music. I suspect that the main point is that a great song has a really memorable hook -- and this can mean a memorable part in many different types of components - melodic fragments, rhythms, lyrical turns of phrase. I suspect lyrical hooks are the most important for most people. Consider Louie, Louie. It is hard to imagine a commercial song with poorer recording tech, and the musical performance is on the level of a mediocre garage band. But, the combination of the basic rhythm, the story in the lyrics, and the dynamic structure of the song combined to make a song that stayed near the top of the charts for seemingly forever.
So it's more the symbolic, naritive, archetypal, contextual, cultural, deeper meaning, resonance that makes a song great.😆
Perhaps we could all agree that the music theory aspects are most effective when they speak to us in that deeper way cominbined with the lyrics, or speak of that which words sometimes cannot say?
Well, quite. And that's why Rick has never discussed The Scaffold's Lily the Pink - especially Queen's cover of it.
Great video, Andy! I’ve recently discovered your channel and really have enjoyed the videos I have seen. I agree with your point of view on the topics you cover. I like Rick Beato and like what he does as well, on his videos. I’m a drummer and really appreciate good songs as well, from old pop(70’s) to jazz, rock, and classical…….. Keep up the good work. You’ve got a new subscriber here!👍🥁🥁🥁👌
"and we are here to rock you"....had me laughing out loud 🤣🤣🤣That is why that song is great.
Absolutely hilarious ! Go Andy, but stay here. I'll name drop you on Ricks channel. I'm sure all other regulars will as well.
The last thing I really want Rick to do is to watch this video...I do hope people don't think I';m serious...English humour.....
Yup, no problem loving this Mr Edwards, but then I have been called bonkers on more than one occasion. I also love your depth of knowledge and ability to improvise your way through the vast range of topics you discuss. Oh, and I too enjoy Mr Beato's videos.
Hysterical delivery. I like your perspective.
Sorry for spamming the comment section but I was a bit lyric blind myself until I heard Amy Winehouse on "I'm no good" and "Back to black". Sheesus effin Chroist that hit me right where it felt.
And I hope he does come on your show…
On the topic, wasn't Byrd himself criticised for liking Country music to which he (reportedly) said "Listen to the lyrics". I think I read that in Miles Davis' biography some 20, 25 years ago. Not sure.
I love your spiritual take on music. It's the mojo the song brings you! Btw, Queen are one of my favourite
Yes!!!! Brilliant!!!! That taunting melody of “We are the champions “ that Mr.Edwards is so nuts on.I never thought of it that way,Until you said it.And yes Rick Beato !!!!!!’ Please face the sheer brilliance of Andy Edwards. Thank you
The power off and the drummer keeps going happened to me once. In our case the drummer hit the RCD with his stick and the whole Venue went off! Including the disco.
It was a gig in aid of a charity.
We were in the middle of Don’t Look Back in Anger and the drummer kept going while the crowd sang along and the organisers desperately tried to get the power back on. Which they did about 2 minutes later😊
That's funny. Zappa's lyrics were the first I ever listened to apart from Springsteen haha
Another aspect as to what makes a song great is also the artists interpretation. Both of you are right but there are lots of songs that the composer thought it should sound one way and then the song fails. Someone else hears it a different way and boom that becomes the standard everyone knows. That's what makes it great!
Brilliant Andy. I'm also a fan of Rick's, but you are far more academic, intellectual, and philosophically multidimensional than he. Your broad perspectives on music in the context of life and living in the world, transcend Beato's highly specialized expertise. I love your mind, as much as I respect Rick's command of theory, ability to hear and analyze harmony, blueprint song structures and chord progressions, and reverse engineer recording techniques, all on the fly...which is amazing to a failed musician like myself.
Thanks Andy, you've hit the nail on the head here. Very well articulated. This reinforces what I've thought for a long time, that some clever sounding music is simply aural diaroea
I'm looking forward to Rick's livestream this afternoon with his response. 😄
I would go into hiding if he actually watched this....
Andy Edwards - My favorite channel, most videos on You Tube are predictable and by extension a waste of time.
They are two different musical experiences. There's "You'll never walk alone" recorded by Gerry and the Pacemakers, produced by George Martin which is one and only. And there's the same song sang every weekend by the fans of Liverpool FC. Rick is basically a musician and a producer, so he talks about what he knows. He's not a sociologist, nor an art historian...
Very interesting.
I love a good song as much as the next guy,
But I mostly listen to instrumentals. “So what” is in my all time top ten.
I see this style as a form of communication as much as a song.
Very interesting concept of being lyrically blind. I think I’ve got a lot that right now.
You are very inspirational Andy.
I think I’ll listen to a Bob Dylan song now. I’ll try to figure out what all the hubbub is
about him.
Thanks Andy
It's great to see you giving kudos to Rick. And praise by another expert surely is even more appreciated than just by dilettante fans.
I love both your channels. Where Rick is more of a chronicler of rock, you're more of an art historian, and both approaches complement each other. What I particularly love about your videos is that you are just so utterly British 😁 The accent alone makes it worthwhile watching. Keep it up!
Great awesome hilarious video Andy! i wish you could fill in for my drummer who can't make a gig I have on June 30 🤘
Greetings from Belgrade / Serbia !🙂
Andy .. the Black country Beato
That was excellent! Rapidly becoming one of the best channels around. The stuff about So What? and Joni M was gobsmacking. Mind expanding stuff! Reminded me of watching Leonard Bernstein's talks on music , have you seen those?
Happy new year Go Andy !! !..here's a song..what do you do with a drunkin sailor. ER..LY IN THE MORNING...lol.....I enjoy your bits Andy
Andy, your videos are so Jazz improvisation at its best!!
Thanks Andy, Happy New Year!
And “here comes the flood”…..of favorite songs.
But Andy….. The best song is X
What about Cortez the Killer.
What about One more Red Nightmare or
Waka Jawaka / The inner mounting flame…..
Why you never talk Lee Ritneour, or the Beatles?
Figured you must know him. You both are very interesting and educational. Still of the educational system, but more also. Though more doesnt make money now does it?
You have hit the nail on the head, Andy! Thats why I love BOC's " The Siege and Investiture of Baron Von Frankenstein's Castle at Weiseria" so much! Carpe Diem!!! World Without End!!!
Brilliant. Was pissing myself at the end request!😂😂😂😂Get rolled by Rick!
Happy new year mate.Have yourself a prog grog
I reckon a song is truly great if you completely love it (voice timbre, emotion, + instrumentation) though you may not necessarily understand the lyrics or even the language
I fell asleep watching TH-cam videos and woke up to your impassioned plea to Rick Beato to put you on his channel. Even with the added benefit of being fully awake, it took me a minute to comprehend what was going on. I love your channel and watch your videos for many different reasons, one of which is because your improvisational rants always make me laugh.
Imagine if that happened to Rick!
Brillant point of view - thanks, Andy
Very welcome
It took me 3 hours to get through this video .. my head is spinning ... nice one Andy ... thnx for that ... now I need "Coyote" from Joni and Jaco ... 👍
This talk is just so amazingly good > thank you very much !!!!
I just gave a shout out on Rick’s Twitter about the show. I think if enough of us do that, Rick is bound to respond!
My best video is my Louis Armstrong video IMO. That would be the one I would show him...definitely not this one!!!!
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer L O L, quite honestly. I think it’s all good and knowing Rick to be the good hearted bloke that he is, he would enjoy either one! But yes, we can put in a plug for your Louis Armstrong!
Wonderful Spacehoppers? Did they cover Julien Cope songs? 🙂
Ha ha....no...more Taylor Swift and Stereophonics....
Andy; your remarks about Metal being a speed contest are very pertinent. However, that can often be laid at the door of Jazz fusion. Blistering technique and timing, obvious complex compositional skills, deep thought gone into the whole production. But I usually find it less satisfying than, say, the better Prog (Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Zappa etc. I need some help in appreciation!
You could do a spot on “Virgin Rock” and they will love you. She gets half million views and I told her about you and she said she wants you as a guest. In the words of the Pink Fairies “ Do It !”
I think that lady's been entertaining too many prog enthusiasts already, it's a saturated market, I doubt if it will come to pass under her present onslaught. 😆
Get me on there!!!! I'll tell her all my best Robert Plant stories....
@@yinoveryang4246 I hope that’s not true but it very well could be. Lots of Zappa freaks over there too. I think certain percentage of people will always appreciate deeper knowledge based discussion of songs and music, I think that level of content isn’t saturated but basic reactions to Rush etc. may be.
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Hard to tell if you’re being sarcastic. I think I can make this happen, how’s the best way for her to contact you? I think it would be a perfect match. Check out her analysis of Peaches in Regalia. .
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer I have a Robert Plant story: He spent a day at Goldsmith College in New Cross, SE London, late 90s. He got hungry and asked for a hot corn sandwich. The sandwich came in cold and he got very very angry and I shivered as if a lion was on the loose
You grovel well, Grasshopper. I hope Rick takes you up. I watch his every post. Re Joni: It's Amelia, I'll warrant.
Beato's line of reasoning reminds me of what I heard in jazz from the Marsalis acolytes in the 80s, that if we get really good at the technique, the inspiration and new ideas would follow. That didn't happen.
I admire Beato's skill and his efforts to educate. But I look at his WMTSG list and it's... not the list I would have made. He approaches msuic from a producer's perspective and if it's well-produced and sold well then it's great. It's a given that he's the type of guy who really likes Steely Dan. And Toto just because they're session musicians (Rosanna, though?). I'll give him a pass on the Nu-Metal just for his willingness to slog through it and find something salvageable. But how does he land on Train? (Pat Finnerty's What Makes this Song Stink epic takedown of Train is more my speed.)
It's his list and he can like what he wants, but it's what he leaves off that bugs me. There are no acts very far outside of the mainstream. No deep cuts from the mainstream artists. And I'll say it, other than Seal and Stevie Wonder, it's a very white list. If he wants to inspire interesting music, why not use his platform to showcase more obscure artist instead of what we've all heard before? And I think it's this-- when I listen to music it's in the hope that I'll hear some musical idea or vision that excites me in some way, regardless of the skill level or mainstream appeal. And that's fundamentally not how he approaches music.
People need some expert to validate their taste, hence all the ridiculous channels like “Classical musician reacts to death metal” or “some random dude listens to white peoples music”
Groveling becomes you.
Andy Edwards *IS* a nice guy
Andy Edwards....Do you have "Perfect Pitch"?. I have listened to 3 of your romps through the Zeitgeist of Music...Jazz as the root... Dancing as the original activity... Virtuosity as too many currants in the Garibaldi biscuit..!!!? Obviously I have borrowed your ball and run off with it.... Anyway you sing Champions in its correct key. Very enjoyable....THANK YOU. AH
I don't, but I have noticed instances where I can pull correct pitches out of the air, as you spotted.
You're great, Beato should definitely have you on (or vice versa). One gripe, you describe all these great songs but no clips to accompany? Most are obscure. Thanks for all the great content
There's a lot in common belief-wise between Andy and Rick Beato. But not sure of this particular debate is his best approach. Because if Andy truly believes that the popularity and strength of a piece music is 100% some hook or idea, that could've been performed by anyone? And zero to do with execution? I think there's a sandwich sadly fallen from the picnic basket. Maybe it can be found laying on the path someday,
Love the channel anyway 🙂.
Yes i believe that...a great song goes beyond execution although great execution will improve the experience. but it never the execution that makes it great.
Ah okay, let's say the sandwich is back in the picnic basket. How do you explain that cover version of songs, are rarely better than the original recording? Same song, same raw data, same idea. They always end up as massively inferior in anything they communicate?