OFFICE HOURS: What is ZIONISM? A Conversation w/ Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro! (PART 1)
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I have been reading his book -- The Empty Wagon: Zionism's Journey from Identity Crisis to Identity Theft.
I am about halfway through, and it is FANTASTIC. One of the most important books in my life.
I am actually saving to buy this Gem
I hope it becomes available on audiobook.
I never considered the angle that society is allowing antisemitism to define Jews. Thank you for this perspective which was illustrated using Theodore Herzl as an example. That was vivid.
It blew my mind. 🤯🤯
@@user-hm5mw9er3yme too.
society? no one is more obsessed with antisemitism than zionists
it's nonsense
I wish men like this were interviewed more in mainstream media.
This was a great conversation, really looking forward to the 2nd part next week. Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro should be a household name as long as discussions of Zionism are prevalent in our discourse. Of course the Zionists would hate that as he pretty much represents an unsolvable refutation of their entire ideology and none of their clapbacks would work on a Rabbi who knows more about the religion than any of them do.
Yes; really looking forward to part 2 and even more than that if poss.
This was one of the best discussions ever, on Zionism and Judaism. I've always was curious about what makes a Jew a Jew and I could never get a good answer. Rabbi Yaakov is a honest and straight up man and I have lots of respect for him. I will purchase his book after watching this. Thank you Marc and Rabbi Yaakov. I wanted you to ask him why he thought Moses wasn't a Jew.
Well sorry to say if you read the Torah or the Bible it contradicts most what he saying in this.
Maybe read the books before following blindly
@@needmorediamonds1464 Obviously, you haven't listened to the conversation. Prove me wrong - take a statement made by the Rabbi and and provide the contradiction from the Torah (direct reference please). Silence from you will show you as a fake and troll.
@@H_Dar792 not sorry mate my life not about you 😂 stay mad I did
@@Peaceseeker917 I thought he said it was King David because his mother was a Moabite (which he explained earlier that it was through birth from your mother). I’m going to watch it again.
A true New Yrk. This man does not BS at all.
This was even better than my 1st ever Rabbi Shapiro Rodeo!
He was ‘cooking…’
But tbf, Marc does always bring a sprinkle of Magic to his platform, as well as an abundance of respect, professionalism & humility🩶
I am so blown away by this interview. It’s so revelatory for an interloper who was raised COGIC and now a humanist. We are as great and as limited by what we know. Marc this is life changing knowledge. Bravo.
Incredibly interesting. Thank you.
SIde note : Giving Rabbi Shapiro the title "Israeli Rabbi" contradicts what he's saying. He's not Israeli, he's American.
Rabbis like Shapiro need to be interviewed MORE
there are plenty of videos of him being interviewed
th-cam.com/video/eye3eOaBGrw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RdXXQBiOqslWi1m1
‘They’ must of shadow banned him
Another great video of Rabbi Shapiro talking about this same subject, how Zionism stole jewish identity.
th-cam.com/video/eye3eOaBGrw/w-d-xo.html
@@David-bc4rh there are several Rabbis like Rabbi Shapiro who have been interviewed on YT.
Shapiro is the best extemporaneous speaker -that I’ve seen- among them. His speaking style is like a Lawyer or a Professor. And is great for discussing the politics, theology and is great at debating the subject.
Dovid Weiss is another Rabbi that speaks prolifically about Palestine. But he has a very different style. He is a very empathetic speaker. He’s a committed activist whose compassion and anguish is usually on full display.
While both get interviewed by Turkish and Arabic national media. But they never get interviewed by the western legacy media .
And they get censored. Whenever I recommend them or link videos in the comments, my posts disappear. So they are hard to share without direct messages or email.
Peace
Rabbi Shapiro from my hometown. He's a good man.
He is a Zahid and Sedeek (Tzedek)
Always a pleasure seeing my favorite, no nonsense rabbi.
This was an excellent conversation. I did not want it to end. Looking forward to the continuation. Thank you Marc and Rabbi Shapiro!
What a brilliant conversation. Rabbi has a lot of historical and religious knowledge. I can listen to him speak all day long
Thank you for all your excellent and informative reporting that we dont find in mainstream media
Islamic scholars and families have lots of books in their homes and Muslims create schools, and hospitals that’s very important in the faith of Islam
The zionist slandering of Islam and Muslims is very offensive.
Rabbi Shapiro needs to be on major platforms letting people know the Truth
yes he does.
Thank you for this! Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro is incredibly informative. In my opinion, let him build his case, uninterrupted, to understand the points he is making; which can take 1.5 to 2 hours. There are fantastic lectures of him on TH-cam lecturing on this topic and he might even have a channel.
I see what you mean, but Shapiro spoke for more time, and this is a conversation. The interruptions were sparse and for clarification.
I’m glad those lectures exist because it leaves room for the conversation here
Rabbi Yaakov is a good man I think.
Great guest. Very insightful. I heard so many new things. Need to rewatch and review. I love it when Marc has proper intellectuals as guests.
Please bring him back. I think this Rabbi Shapiro should be one of the LEAD voices in dismantling Zionism & Zionist Rhetoric in the West. Even BEYOND some of my favs like Prof MLH, Finkelstein, Chomsky, Pappe, Mate, Zachary, Mearsheimer & Sachs bcus this IS the religious angle that the academics haven't delved into.
Grassroots media should've BEEN pairing Rab. Shapiro or other Jewish theologians LIKE him with the Academics on various debate panels. A trifecta strategy of an investigative journalist with quick whitted media savvy, the academic/strategist (historian or poly-sci) and the practicing theologian. OMG if they could add a Lawyer in there! Next level Anti-Zionist Grassroots strategy
We know Marc can do journalist or academic but having a Jewish academic would stave off the anti-semetism accusations
Imagine Briahna JG + Finkelstein + Rabbi Shapiro
Or
Marc LH + M. Rabbani + Rabbi Beck
Or Max Bluemental + Marc/Zachary + Rabbi Silverstein.
Alhamduallah for the Deen !!!
Rabbi Shapiro never fails to educate! The man is brilliant. Google is other interviews.
. He proved that there is an element of descent. He said that Jews today are people who's mother was obligated to fulfill the the Torah during the time of their escape from Egypt then their descendants are also obligated to fulfill it whether they practice it or not. Aside from this, according to the Bible, the Jews were numbered by their fathers in the book of Numbers, specifically in chapter 1 verse 18, where it states that they "declared their pedigrees after their families, by the house of their fathers" when being counted. When and why did it change and who had the right to change it? What I find is that they cling to it being a religion when it is convenient for them not to be linked to a particular culture or race such as being linked to nefarious activities and they cling to it being a race whenever it is convenient to be considered a race such as seeking protection or rights to Israel.
I'm so grateful for this interview! Looking forward to pt 2
Very interesting interview. Thank you Marc and Rabbi Shapiro
Thank you for helping to educate us, Marc.
Rabbi Shapiro 👌🏾
My goodness. I have never learned so much about Jewry and Zionism than from listening to half of this discussion, much less the whole thing. I am buying his book immediately.
Thank you for this conversation! Let's remind ourselves. #RaceDoesntExist ✨🙏🏽 #RacismIsAChoice
Totally Agree with you...
This Ribbi is hardcore censored. Whenever I refer to him here on YT my posts disappear.
It’s crazy. I have so many posts removed, just because of the criticism on zionism and Israel. YT is absolutely trying to censor anti-zionist content. Channels are getting blocked, full blown censorship. It’s crazy. This is the end of YT.
@@eli5346 maybe cos you call him ribbi
@@chegeuvera possibly or using full name and title. But sometimes I don’t name him at all and respond by simply sharing a YT link.
One of YT corporate executives is a former IOF cybersecurity officer.
@@eli5346scary
A very fascinating discussion. I am a 2nd gen british-pakistani that no longer believes in the divinity of the Qur'an or Muhammad. I often feel like british ex/muslims find themselves in a similar (ofc not same) predicament as the secular/religious british jews of the 19th/20th century, seen as an 'alien' population in tension with european ideas of race/nationality/religion/ethnicity. I do sympathise with the identity crises of Herzl et al, particularly in a european context where non-christian religion becomes racialized. To any outside (and many inside) observers, Herzl/Disraeli etc were truly, even ethnically, british/european people, but (christian) ideological blood and soil ran so deep in Europe that internally there had to be a form of othering, which becomes easy to internalize (with some ex/muslims going down a reactionary/far-right or anti-muslim route, like Jabotinsky et al's disdain of the Galut jew). Being muslim is also heavily racialized in the UK, and being visibly Pakistani, I will always be racialized as muslim (e.g. be a target of the recent rioters), no matter how much I personally distance myself from Islam. But I simultaneously also sympathise with Shapiro's insistence on Judaism(/Islam) as a religion and skepticism of seeing Judaism(/Islam) simply as a culture, which has a significance that I think a lot of well-meaning liberal/secular people may find difficult to truly understand.
There are a lot of senses in which I am a 'cultural' muslim, given the traditions I grew up with and facing anti-muslim sentiment, but ultimately I don't think that is enough to sustain an identity of being muslim without cognitive dissonance. I tried identifying with various forms of non-literalist/secular Islam, but kept running into the same issue that ultimately there must be some criterion for what a muslim is or isn't, and if it's not believing in the Qur'an/Muhammad then what could it possibly be? If anything this is particularly acute with Islam, where the internal understanding of group-belonging is purely based on faith, whereas in Judaism you can be a jew whether you believe or not. There is no consistent sense, or sense internal to Islam, in which there is meaning/legitimacy to being an 'atheist'/'cultural' muslim (which is especially true if you don't live in a muslim state).
Western 'secular' judaism/Israelism has been able to deflect a religious criterion to an extent by the centering of an ashkenazi cultural/historical experience as a form of jewish signification (to the detriment of non-ashnekazi jewish experience), but this is even less possible with secular/european muslims given the prominence/diversity of foreign muslim nations/cultures, relatively recent migration, and lack of 'european' Islam (let's also bracket the implicit privileged position of arab culture in Islam, certain ways in which Islam is not as well suited to being a diaspora religion, and ways in which islam and 'europe' originated/developed in contra-definition to each other). Pakistan went through a similar issue of trying to define what it means to be the 'muslim' homeland of South Asia that elides religion/ethnicity/culture, with the founder of Pakistan Muhammad Ali Jinnah himself being a 'secular muslim' with a vision of Pakistan that was 'culturally', but not religiously, muslim. A Pakistan that also rejects its indic culture/language/history/rootedness to synthesize a new identity that is just 'muslim'. This has become the foundation of the cognitive dissonances, inconsistencies, and identity conflict that plague it to this day (compounded in diaspora british-pakistanis).
If anything I think this is why it is important, particularly for liberal people (inc exmuslims and cultural muslims) to recognize the ways in which secularization can actually be deeply intertwined with racialization/nationalisms (see also the 19th century rise of race science and 'semitification' of european jews). But as a secular person myself, I really don't know what the answer (or even question) is. In a way, isn't it precisely the secularization of christianity in europe that transformed the identity into a racial/national one? One that finds it difficult to accommodate or comprehend other religious identity, and so can only make sense of difference through racial or 'cultural' othering? I feel like majority liberal culture hasn't even begun to articulate, let alone grapple with, issues that arise with identities once there is absolutely no criterion, particularly as it relates to minority communities. My more blackpill question is, is liberal secularism inherently post-christian, and can it ever truly encompass/make sense of anything outside of it?
wonderful conversation! I learned so much ✨
Save Gaza
Is Dr. Hill still committed to voting for Harris even though she’s committed to still supplying arms to Israel?
💯💯💯 question
Rabbi Shapiro is wonderful man
Thank you Dr.Shapiro. Ive been following him around channels, very insightful. Thank you Marc
This was amazing! Thank you Marc and Rabbi Shapiro! Looking fwd to Part 2
Wow, awesome discussion! Thank you!
fascinating conversation so far !
Great conversation, I learnt a lot here. Looking forward to the next one!
After listening to this conversation and the confusion it presented then creates, I am totally convinced that “The Universal Declaration of Human Rights” must be held absolute by governments and taught in classrooms by the people across the world, so there’s no legalese wiggle room to oppress others or the culture of apathy that the pain of others is ever acceptable under any conditions.
My favourite guest so far. So enlightening
This was a great apolitical rundown. Thank you.
Thanks!
This was great Marc, thank you. Looking forward to the next one
Soooo many dots started connecting while listening to this! Wow, Marc you are really doing the work. I can’t wait for part 2, thanks Rabbi Shapiro for the enlightenment 👏🏽👏🏽
THANK YOU PROFESSOR . 🤯🤯😳🤯🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽✌🏽
I hope next weeks episode is longer. I love listening to Rabbi Shapiro
I love when Marc has guests on that are as intelligent as he is (or at least in the ballpark).
Luv listening to your guest. Great show
Absolutely incredible conversation. Listening to things like this while I game is the only thing keeping that time productive in one way or another ;)
I'm on my knees begging Marc to get a decent microphone. My God brother you do a regular podcast. That should have been purchase number one.
Looking forward to Part 2, thanks Marc & Rabbi Shapiro 🙏🏽
BCV. Which LAW in the Torah says if your mother is o Judah the her offspring is 'jew'
There isn't a law in the Torah that communicates that. He said according to Jewish Law not according to the Torah, God’s law, or the Law of Mosaic.
I understand “Jewish law” is understood to identify the Talmud, not the Torah.
@@toreyhorton1789 Thanks Soo much for the reply. He indeed said by Jewish law. There was a presence of conflation which would have not been so by making an association with non-Torah sources
commenting for the algo! can't wait for the next one
I woulda been click baity and titled this “There’s nothing Jewish about Zionism!”
damn, so glad u guys continue next week
Peace brother Marc
Such a great great episode. Thoroughly enjoyed the conversation and the information. It’s rare to feel like you’ve gained knowledge after a TH-cam video in 2024 lol
Great guest!
Thanks Marc, apprecite your intelligence and morality ❤
Cannot wait for part 2!
Wonderful Conversation
I appreciate how you invite various perspectives a platform, even if you do not agree with them, this is education which invites conversation.
The Shapiro worth listening to.
Fascinating discussion, and very informative!
What really struck me in this conversation is how the zionist definition of 'a jew' relies on this vaguely genetic component. Doesn't that mean that jewishness is regarded as 'a race' in a similar pseudo science way the nazis defined it? I looked up the nuremberg laws, which make this bogus blood/race-argument. I have a few questions for part 2 of the conversation: would it be logically possible to be a zionist without in some way defining 'a jew' via this genetic/and thus twisted 'racial' component? And if not, does that mean that the central component of the nazi definition of what a jew is, is more or less still alive today?
Marc you should get on Rudy Rochman to debate the Rabbi
It would be good if Rudy wasn't so brainwashed. All he will do is try to get the Rabbi to agree with him because they are "brothers" because they are both Jewish. Rudy won't bring anything real to the table. It would be a waste of the Rabbi's time. Ask Noam Chomski and Daniel Matè of the hours of their life that they've wasted with that guy.
Fantastic interview, I look forward to next week
Marc, Rav Yaakov, good interview. I also appreciate the many counters and playing devil's advocate in th conversation.
Couldn't disagree more with the statement "Being Jewish is a relationship with G-d, if it doesn't have to do with G-d it's not Jewish" Maybe if this sentiment comes within the difference between Jew/Jewish and Hebrew/B'nei Yisrael I can accept this argument. But as a Jew/Hebrew myself who isn't religious I can't accept this claim. And I feel this holds true from an Anti, agnostic or Pro Zionist take. btw not a fan of Herzl. I am curious to hear any thoughts on Echad Ha'am version of Zionism.
Ben Shapiro can take some lessons from this man. His intellect is far far higher
They wanna outlaw the whole word…..them ‘Z’s are something else..
They are fakes ! Stealing African identities!
Very informative
modern Moses with those truth tablets, zionists hate this man
Minute 32:50 aprox. "the zio nists were an ti sem ites, and they hat ed the jewish religion"
Looking forward to next week.
With all due respect to this conversation. I learned a lot and appreciate this content. Thank you for this intelligent discourse.
I am about to argue against an aside.
Someone compared the antisems redefining Judaism to suit their interests to creators of race and oppressions based on it as if these are the same dynamic. Judaism is it's own organized entity apart from the antisems. Black as a race is designed. Specifically created by the oppressors themselves, not a culture that naturally evolved from communing peoples of some sort. Circumstances by force brought (even enemies) together and placed race on them. We can say that we chose the term, Black, but to redefine the race in an ahistorical manner doesn't make it comparable to antisems politically redefining the, terms, culture, and religion of multiple groups to center their interests.
Marc thank you for your professionalism. I admire your interview techniques. Will you please as Rabbi what his thoughts are of chareidi jews who settled the land? Bnei Barak region. Such as the Chazon Ish, kanievski, or even the revered baba sali. Why did they move there if Rabbi Shapiro considers the land not holy? Thanks!!
Here is a rabbi who never referenced or quoted from the book that they are a rabbi's of. What was the word for jew prior to the invention of the letter j? There were 12 tribes of israel. And because they are not following that premise, they will be always trying to define the word jew. Smh, it comes from the word hebrew, what was the word for Judaism before the letter j and the suffix ism
Wasn’t a race or nationality but a variety of people who followed the true word of god.
You can pray by yourself in Islam but congregational prayer is 25 times greater
Mr. Marc Hill Lamont....As a black man you spend too much time on another race problems (Palestinians) while your own race in West Papua is going through the same hell perpetuated by Indonesians.
Use your public space to Fight for them as hard as you do about Arabs who anyway have never been ones to fight for Black people.
You may be interested in the following, please tell me what you think and help me to remove any possible errors.
Sanskrit is a Farsi word ( ساسانی کلمه نویس - sasani-kalameh-nevis means Sasanian writing/language) which is the root of all modern languages and it was and it is [in its new form English] the official language of the world and science.
Biblical words and names are Farsi/Persian, some are listed below:
The word "God" is coming from "Good" and good comes from Farsi word " خوب - Khoob " and khoob comes from " خاک او - khaake-uo " and khaake-uo comes from " خاک - khaak " which means "Soil" or "Earth". The word "Khaak" is a natural and organic word/language/sound which is coming from the sound our mouth makes when ejecting/spitting out the dirt that has entered our mouth, it was used by mothers to teach children what to eat (enter their mouth) and whatnot.
Deus and Dios are Farsi words "Darius" or "Cyrus [the Great"].
Hashem is " آهن شمش - aahan-shemsh " means "Iron Ingot" from Iran/Iron.
Allah is " آهن آلات - aahan-aalat " means "Iron Tools / Metal Tools".
Sallallahou Alayhe Wasallam, Arabic " صلي الله عليه وسلم " is " سرب و آهن و حلبی و مس زرد رنگ - sorbo-ahano-halabi-va-mese-zard-rang " which means "Lead, iron, tin and yellow copper".
Allah o akbar is " آهنآلات خاک کن - aahan-alate-khak-kan " means "Iron tools to dig the ground" like Picks and Shovels.
Mosses " مس ساز or مس دزد - mes-saz OR mes-dozd " means "coppersmith or copper thief"
Jew "جا - jaa" = Room / Home / Shed
Jesus "جا ساز - jaa-saaz" = Home builder
Christ "کار است, کار دست - kaar-ast/kare-dast" = The work we do using our hands to build a home, determines the ownership of that house
Genocide "جا نساز - jaa-na-saaz" = Do not build home
Genesis "جا نسازید - jaa-na-saazeed" = Do not build house (purell for genocide)
Gabrael "این جا بروید - jaa-beraveed" = Leave this home, executor of eviction
Palestine "پا و دستان - paa-va-dastan" = Legs and hands, [construction] workers
Disciple "دست پرکار or دست و پا دار - dast-o-paadar" = Having [skilled] hands for work Joseph "جا زاد - jaa-zaad" = The male who was born in that home Jouda "جا دار - jaa-daar" = One with home, not homeless
John "جای من - jaa-ye-man" = My home [in the future] Judea "جادارها - jaa-daarha" = Those who have house (opposite of homeless)
Moshe "مال من میشه - maale-man-mysheh" = It will be mine Judaism "جا دزدیست - jaa-dozdist" = Home/land thief
Magi "مانده جا - mandeh-jaa" = The man who knows the owner of the home and land
Maryam "مادرم - maadaram" = My mother, being a mother
Mary "مادری - maadary" = Motherhood, a girl who is expected to be a mother (roots for marriage, madam, Ms and Mrs)
Jahad "جا بخواه - jaa-bekhah" = Demand for having a home (not an enslaved on someone else's land)
Salvation "بساز و بشین - besaz-o-beneshin" = To live in your own built house and living in there
Babylon "برابرن - bara-baran" = Equals, people who shared the land equally amongst themselves
Malachi "مالکان - malekan" = Landlords, owners of the houses.
Pagan " پاره گان - paregan" = Those girls who lost their virginity
Sodom [and] Gomorrah " سردمه گرمم کن - sardameh-garmam-kon" = I am cold, warm me up, It was used by prostitutes
Trinity is a Farsi word " سه گانگی - se-ghanegy " which means "[concept of] three [owners]".
Father is the builder and the original owner of the house [there was no divorce and the mothers were automatically co owners with fathers),
Sons will inherit the property to protect the mother and other siblings when the father is too old or is dead. Daughters were getting married and co-owned their husband's property.
The Holy is " خالی - khali '' which means when the property is vacant and the word Spirit is " از بین رفت - az-bain-raft " which means building that is in ruins or was destroyed, in this state the Church will take ownership of the property and use it for single women, children and elders with no support.
In the Concept of Trinity, God is the landlord.
The Trinity was the base of the entire Christian and Western Civilization.
The Council of Nicaea formalized Trinity as the official rule of the land and Constantin centralized and unified registering the properties (issuing deeds) and recording their owners' names, to that date registering and recording was done by local real estate agents and escrow companies of the time dominated by jews who were abusing and trafficking and abusing women and children who needed food and home.
Virgin Mary means that Mary the mother of Jesus was a Virgin when married to Joseph, her virginity entitled her and Joseph to the ownership of the land and ability to pass the home to their son Jesus.
The word Mashiach is a Farsi word " مال تو میشه - male-to-myshe " which means "It [Jerusalem] will be yours", if someone can prove that jews are the owner of Jerusalem then your war will be over. Mashiach is the same Arabic word as " ماشاالله " and Muslim use it often, it means that by working hard and doing a good job you will own your nice property.
David is " دربان - darban " means "doorman/security guard/door keeper".
[Mashiach] Ben David is " بی دربان - bee-darban " which means "no need for a doorman".
Messiah is " مصالح - massaleh " = [construction] material, later it became " مسیر یاب - masser-yaab " which means path/direction/way Finder.
Nazareth " نوزادگاه - nozadgah " which means Newborn nursery, Labor and delivery hospital and birth certificate registration [for legit children of married couples]
Synagogue is " زن زادن جا - zan-zadan-ja " means where women can deliver baby, it was for delivering fatherless children and the children of rape victims or performing abortion. Delivered children were kept and were turned into slave soldiers, workers and the girls into sex slaves. Boys were tagged as slaved by tattoos and the girls by ear piercing.
Ark of Covenant are Farsi words " آهنکن گاو نر - aahankan-gave-nar '' which means "Iron for Bull Cow" or "Plowshare". The wings are the accessories required to mount the plow. This was the shared/rental plow for the community and it was designed by Persians who extracted Iron from Iron ore for the first time, the name Iran is the same " آهن کار/ آهن دار - aahan-kar " means Black Smith" or "Those who have Iron".
Quran if Farsi word " کارگران - karegran " which means Workers, and originally was workers' rights law book.
Duaa is " دوللا - dolla " meaning "Bow / Bent Over'', it is the same as English Law.
Buddha if " پولدار - pooldar " which means rich and wealthy they were the first Zartoshti. Zartosht invented alchemy money/coins and capitalism.
Vishnu is " بشنو - beshno " meaning to be submissive and listen only, the one who does not talk or ask .
Rabbi 🙏❤️
@26:00, powerful
He's saying, Jews are not a race, but you're only Jewish if you're born from a Jewish mother. He then says that King David was not of "Jewish stock" because his great-great grandmother was Ruth, the Moabite. I think this man is confused himself, and is basically a believer of ancient bloodlines going back three if not four thousand years ago, meaning that he believes in something akin to "spiritual race". He's basically saying that you're only a real Jew if you're part of this unbroken chain going back to the time when Moses received the laws on the mountain, because he said that if you are born from a Jewish mother, your soul was there at the mountain.
@@stevestevies3495 But there is in fact a racial component, because the Rabbi himself admitted that there is such a thing as "Jewish stock", when speaking about King David's great-great grandmother, Ruth, the Moabite. Synonyms for 'stock' are bloodline, breed, pedigree, blood, genealogy. It seems to me as if race, ethnicity and tribe are used intermittently, and have different meanings depending on the context of the conversation, and especially on those present during such a conversation; Jews versus non-Jews. And the Rabbi said that you could convert to Judaism, but he also admitted that there are debates within the Jewish world whether someone born to a converted Jewish mother is in fact a Jew or not. So all in all, it all sounds quite similar to the way post-modernists use words to dance and twirl about things, to achieve things, depending on the context of things and whom is present. Fascinating stuff! 👋🤡
@@stevestevies3495 that's cool. Now refute everything else.
@@stevestevies3495 Ah yes, one detail wrong, and everything else is wrong, too. No, the fact of the matter is that the Rabbi is a fantasy priest spewing a bunch of nonsense.
@@stevestevies3495 lol you believe in this stuff 🤣🤣🤣🤣 if this rabbi told you to eat crayons, you actually would, wouldn't you? 😆
@@stevestevies3495 What's Metzitzah B'Peh?
As a Religious Jew, as well as a very long descendent of a line of Hassidim like Rabbi Shapiro's ilk (mine is of the Lubavitch line), I hope MLH is willing to accept that not all of us are going to agree with Rabbi Shapiro's definition of what a Jew is. or With what Judaism is. I think he misses a lot about what Jewish culture in essence is; and he ties everything back to God, when even the Bible doesn't.
Your statement makes no sense for a Torah observant Jew. The only connection Jews have with one another, which makes us family, is that we all stood at Mt. Sinai and received the Torah from G-d. It's not Rabbi Shapiro's definition---it's G-d's.
@@chatisawasteoftime this is not true from a second temple jewish perspective; Josephus clearly tells us that this is not what defined our jewishness at the time of the second temple. And the talmud in Kethuboth agrees
@@hatzioni18 Well, if the definition of a Jew it isn't that we accepted the Torah for posterity, then what is it? Once you remove that definition, which is the only definition of a Jew, you're left with a gap. Josephus is a persona non grata as far as halacha is concerned. So what defines Jewishness in Kethuboth? Source please.
15:24 "Give me an intellectually consistent ... characteristic of a Jew." The characteristic he is [deliberately not] looking for is for them to SAY they are a Jew. It is a self assertion of their religion, racial heritage OR culture. It is SELF identification. If a person says they are a Jew, then they are one. And ALL of the Jews in the world have that characteristic in common.
Really? So if you identify as a turtle, you are one. Is that how it works?
Ask him if Joshua committed genocide to establish Israel in the Torah. And if that is where the idea came from for modern day Zionism?
Great discussion
Also what about the archeological findings... menorahs on grave stones... does this point to a jewish nation/civilisation?
Marc let him finish The answers!! Although I understand your wanting to understand.. So do i❤
The law of matrilineal descent in Judaism is based on Deuteronomy 7:3-4 in the Talmud. The verse warns that a gentile father will turn away the son of a Jewish daughter from following God. The Talmud concludes that Jewish descent is through the mother because only the father is mentioned, not the mother.... what if you're a jew who doesn't accept the babylonian tamud???
Thank you Rabbi. Enlightening. I honour your life. However religious schools exclude actuality. Cause great strife. GOD: good orderly direction. I study Shakespeare but no to the detriment of my intelligence.
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I like Rabbi Shapiro. He is a true representation of Judaism ❤❤
14:43 Yes. READ SHLOMO SAND.
You can literary pick him up in the big chain bookshops.
i probably sound like a broken record. Lol.
I just love Rabbi Shapiro...
I dont agree with his definition of who is and isnt jewish. Clearly he only cares about the religious aspect. Its bigger than that whether he likes it or not. Lots of us are not religious but , again, whether he or I likes it or not, we are ethnically jewish. Idk why hes so set on that not being okay. Its not okay to use that for justification of doing genocide. Thats not what im saying. But this dude doesnt get to define who is and isnt jewish. Neither do antisemites. Vaguely hypocritical. Reminds me of Crown Heights weirdos being rude to me. Free palestine.