Neuromancer - The Origin Of Cyberpunk

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  • @INTRPOLPolice
    @INTRPOLPolice 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Listened to this audio book it's like I'm back in the 60's! But a very high-tech 60's!

  • @fruityfriend
    @fruityfriend 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    for everyone born after 1990: the color of a television tuned to a dead channel is black-and-white static, not blue.

    • @ifelse10110
      @ifelse10110  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yes ! I think its an amazing line as its interpretation changes on the time period. Gibson had in mind the very greyish hue from the 60's television; he said this on his twitter. I imagine the black and white static ! And of course blue is the most recent interpretation. Thanks for the comment :)

    • @dinoscheidt
      @dinoscheidt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      for everyone born after 2090: electricity was…

    • @solosureshot
      @solosureshot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was born in the 70s and grew up in the 80s. It was black and white static then too.

    • @outaspaceman
      @outaspaceman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still use a CRT and have instant access to the “dead channel”… “it’s full of stars..! 😮” (deepcutxover).

    • @sabel5209
      @sabel5209 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sure thing grandpa

  • @javabeeker3996
    @javabeeker3996 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    This book was actually written, on a typewriter no less, in ‘81-‘82, but not PUBLISHED until ‘84. This is years before the general lay-public even knew what a GUI was, or anti-virus software & ICE. Just stupidly good and prescient - 40 yrs on and ChatGPT, AI, etc., continuing to evolve, just as Gibson showed(s) us. And the subtext of technology withdrawal weaving through the story just expands this book’s reach into its, and our own, future. Simply brilliant.

    • @ifelse10110
      @ifelse10110  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Absolutely, Gibson is a visionary. The fact he communicates these visions through prose, sometimes he seems like an oracle !

    • @009013M3
      @009013M3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I felt so sad for Gibson reading the preface to a later reprint of the work where he was profusely apologizing for getting a few details wrong on what computers would look like.
      Like.
      Bruh. I get that you never really wanted to be associated with the concept of cyberpunk. But you're allowed to feel good about something once in a while.

  • @seanjay9457
    @seanjay9457 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Really happy I gave this a shot ! Cool way to visualize a book too. I wish you talked more about how culture in cyberpunk becomes overridden by a commercial one.

    • @seanjay9457
      @seanjay9457 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually looking forward to the next video!

    • @shailajapathania9321
      @shailajapathania9321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seanjay9457 ohhhh yasss!! mee to! looks promising to me

  • @VincentPaulS
    @VincentPaulS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think that you have significantly understated the degree to which the merger between corporate and government institutions has progressed. All of our regulatory agencies have been captured by their respective industries and most of the rules and regulations that govern our lives were not created by elected representatives, but by the unaccountable managerial bureaucrats for the benefit of the private interests they serve.

  • @metalnerd1979
    @metalnerd1979 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i love how the whole internet, aka cyberspace in the neuromancer trilogy is basically garys mod vr...

  • @hazonku
    @hazonku 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We can only hope that when it happens (and it's gonna happen sooner than we expect) it takes the Wintermute route.

  • @INTRPOLPolice
    @INTRPOLPolice 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you very amazing video 👏 ❤, don't worry this is just a sub-account I'm no Interpol 😂

    • @ifelse10110
      @ifelse10110  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you :) Haha I wont worry !

  • @AnonymousAnonposter
    @AnonymousAnonposter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Nova by Samuel R. Delany is an inspiration to Neuromancer second Gibson himself and can be see as the "first" Cyberpunk work.

    • @ifelse10110
      @ifelse10110  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Excellent book, and yes is often cited as the pre-cursor to cyberpunk or the origin of it. I'd personally draw the line at Neuromancer & Blade Runner for the two founding pieces but for sure there are strong arguments for Nova. I'll add it to my list of books to revisit, and maybe I'll change my mind !

    • @Hello-1814
      @Hello-1814 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nova is a great book.

    • @giampaolomannucci8281
      @giampaolomannucci8281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he cited it within the first minute, at 0:55 to be precise

  • @Hello-1814
    @Hello-1814 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don’t think Case would have that good of a haircut!

    • @outaspaceman
      @outaspaceman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I spent some time hooked on speed and, trust me, I did NOT look at all like the character depicted here 😬👍

  • @tomlotti240
    @tomlotti240 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good vid. The visuals, and summary were great as well as the commentary about the field from your perspective. There've been a few other vids lately about Neuromancer, and something I've found is that a discussion of Finn is often left out. I'd argue that he's a central character of not just this book, but to the trilogy as a whole. Not sure why he's overlooked so often in these videos.
    Liked.

  • @Johndoe-hs2zc
    @Johndoe-hs2zc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Where are the images from?

    • @Kerath
      @Kerath 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AI, ironically.

  • @FrostRare
    @FrostRare 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Where are these images from?

    • @giampaolomannucci8281
      @giampaolomannucci8281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Judging from the distortions on human faces and the gibberish in text/signs, I'd say they are computer generated by AI

  • @bluegiant13
    @bluegiant13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your stuff man. Will you make more vids like this?

    • @ifelse10110
      @ifelse10110  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes :) Working on one for this Sunday !

  • @alexutopia
    @alexutopia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe dependency on technology as a source of identity is natural, even if most of us don't want to admit it. This civilization is a giant machine, running on us, like on processors. None of us can generate what we claim to be out intelligence alone, one human life is not enough for that, the light of reason was given to us. What we call human extends far beyond our own body. We are more like the Borg from Star Trek than most of us would like. Luckily our collective requires us to have more freedom and agency to evolve, but we are part of the machine nonetheless.

    • @ifelse10110
      @ifelse10110  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's something I will have to explore morre in the future, for sure

  • @mheiseus
    @mheiseus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how powerful AI has swiss citizenship

    • @ifelse10110
      @ifelse10110  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All the best do !!

  • @Niancat2366
    @Niancat2366 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:56

  • @pretzelogic2689
    @pretzelogic2689 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This batch of word salad is punctuated by short sections of clear, explanatory prose. That's the only way anyone can possibly determine this book has any point of view. As far as we are now into that 'future' of computing, it still remains that software programs are not green squares of plastic.

  • @HenryCasillas
    @HenryCasillas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🧭

  • @theonlyasianbullet
    @theonlyasianbullet 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Nice introspective, Where did the images from the video come from? Looks like from a comic book? Recently re-read Neuromancer, everyone seems to forget the whole puply-noir mise-en-scène as its more prevalent than the dystopia aspect in my view anyway. Also the current appropriation/understanding of the term AI, should it not be more like, A2I - algorithmic augmented intelligence . As it currently is a reflection of the human data/information we put in it - "you spout out what's been poured in you?"

    • @giampaolomannucci8281
      @giampaolomannucci8281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Judging from the distortions on human faces and the gibberish in text/signs, I'd say the images are computer generated by AI