i have them on my drz400 and i think they're def a true 50/50. i can do highway speeds and i can do most anything but mud or really loose sand just fine
Just found your channel & agree 100% the Shinko 244’s are a great 50/50 Tire. I’m running them on my KLX 250 . Back roads & non maintained roads plus easy trails. They’re also great on pavement. I only do about 2500 km p/yr & have been running them for 3 yrs. Will buy them again. The reason I installed them was from some Aussie U tubes that run them on DR’s & love them. Great value also.
I have the 244s on a Beta 430RRS that is set up for 50/50 use, and I have to agree with you that they are excellent tires for this purpose. However, I prefer a DOT trials tire like the Pirelli MT43 or Shinko 241 if I'm doing more than 50% of my riding in the dirt.
I was looking into getting these tires for my crf450rl. Nice to see they work OK in wet situations. Can't wait to see the dr650 review and hope the best for you!
Nice review. You mentioned the Shinko 804- have you tested or ridden the 804? I'm curious how they compare to each other. I am looking for new tires for my KLX300 and am considering these two options. Thanks!
Cool video. I like the look of the 244. have been looking at 804 and 805 also. at 1:30 The Geomax mx33 is now discontinued, the new one is the mx34, but neither are DOT rated, I think you meant the EN91. I have ran the mx33, they wear fast.
The Swiss Army knife of the dual sport world. They come in a ton of different sizes and all at a very reasonable price. Had one that was defective. Otherwise, many miles of joy on and off road. 😊
Thanks for the review! How do these tires handle sugar sand? We have quite a bit of it here in South Jersey. I'm about to install an 18/21 rim set on a Sur-Ron Ultra Bee and want to avoid the extra weight of full moto tires. My main concern with the Shino's is their performance in sugar sand.
Iv looked at these, but never purchased cuz looking at that front tire it just seems incapable of anything offroad. The rear looks perfect for a 50/50 tire, the knobs are spaced out enough. But the front has only 1/4" of gap between knobs. Iv had 805, 705, 606, Trakmasters, and D605. My favorite is the Dunlop D605 cuz both front and rear really respond well at 13-14psi and dont pinch tubes at that psi also.
I always run stock pressure and you'd be surprised what it can handle, as long as your not in deep sand or deep slippery mud, it does great. Tires are always compromises :)
I have just received a set of Shinko 705's as I pound more pavrment than dirt. Opted for a 130 / 90 rear to gain some height to compensate for no 6th gear. Will see how many kilometers they will do compare to the current Pirelli Scorpion Trail II's. Agree with the opinion on the DR. Explains why Suzuki have produced it for so long unchanged. Just really miss a 6th gear for commuting.
These tires are a really decent buy for most people. If you are a more aggressive rider you may want to at least find a better front tire because there are terrifying if you push the lean. They will simply wash out and you are down.
About 4000km, theyve gotten a bit louder, About 30% left, a few small cracks on the rear tire, after many wheelies and wheel spinning offroad, they got quite the abuse :)
No particular reason they are nearly identical, I but havent tried them so can’t comment. Im sure theres many review on those as well as they are also popular 😎
I've got a set on my bike right now. I had trakmaster2's on before and these inspire a lot of confidence where the trakmasters were only good for throwing rocks lol
There's a lot of trakmaster fans out there, but I haven't tried them yet to compare. The Shinkos are just good all round, dual sport tire and are dirt cheap as a bonus. Keep the shiny side up and thanks for stopping by! :)
Horrible in what way? Tires, like motorcycles are all about compromises. If you have a track bike you want slicks, if you have a dirt bike you want MX tires. If you want a tire that does a bit of everything well, it won't be excellent at anything :) For what I do, both tires have worked great. If I planned on riding a lot in deep sand or slippery mud, I'd definitely get something more aggressive, just like if I went 95% of my time on road, I'd go with something more road oriented. Often it's more bad choices for the task than bad tires. :)
@@Speedytrip my take is I’d rather have something that is somewhat lacking on pavement than off road. I’ve ridden trails with these-just mostly hard packed gravel-and found them to be very off putting. They tended to wash out too easily, stripping away my confidence and were not that good on pavement either. I’ve had much better experiences on both conditions with more knobby DOT tires like Pirelli Scorpion Rally and IRC TR8, even the Motoz Rallz. Tires and oil: a sure-fire way to start a debate. Glad you like them though. Ride safe! PS I should have added, my perspective is from a DR650 and I’ve tried these tires twice. The second time I removed them early from disgust. First time I didn’t know any better.
@RGB872 Ive ridden these pretty hard, including with experienced ktm riders and on dirt/gravel roads the only times they could take the lead was in the straight lines :) Never experienced a slip on pavement, but yes agreed tires are a bit like oil we all have preferences, you’ll find fans of just about every kind of tires. For example Pirelli scorpions are very popular, but Ive had some dangerous close calls slipping on painted lines on pirellis, even in the dry, that Ive yet to experience with any other brand of tire :)
Let us know what you think of the Shinko 244, they seem to be quite popular in the DR650 community! :)
I replaced my deathwings with the 244s. No regrets. Excellent 50/50 tire. Yes, they’re quiet on pavement.
i have them on my drz400 and i think they're def a true 50/50. i can do highway speeds and i can do most anything but mud or really loose sand just fine
Just found your channel & agree 100% the Shinko 244’s are a great 50/50 Tire. I’m running them on my KLX 250 . Back roads & non maintained roads plus easy trails. They’re also great on pavement. I only do about 2500 km p/yr & have been running them for 3 yrs.
Will buy them again.
The reason I installed them was from some Aussie U tubes that run them on DR’s & love them.
Great value also.
Awesome, thanks for the feedback! I'm sure these tires will work great on many dual sport bikes. :)
I have the 244s on a Beta 430RRS that is set up for 50/50 use, and I have to agree with you that they are excellent tires for this purpose. However, I prefer a DOT trials tire like the Pirelli MT43 or Shinko 241 if I'm doing more than 50% of my riding in the dirt.
Thanks for watching and for tge recommendation :)
I have a set on my Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 and they're doing well after nearly 2000 miles. I'm running 28psi front and rear.
I was looking into getting these tires for my crf450rl. Nice to see they work OK in wet situations. Can't wait to see the dr650 review and hope the best for you!
BEST I HAVE BEEN ON 244 FOR YEARS MY GO TO !!!
i'm looking at these for my drz! thanks for video
You're welcome, let us know how you like em! :)
Just bought a rear tire, can’t wait for winter to wear off to try it out
I know the feeling too well hehe
Loved them had a set on a te410 husky dual sport now I'm going to put on my 650 klr
Nice review. You mentioned the Shinko 804- have you tested or ridden the 804? I'm curious how they compare to each other. I am looking for new tires for my KLX300 and am considering these two options. Thanks!
Thanks, Ive ran many 804/805s….great tires only weakness is lateral grip in mud. For dirt, gravel and paved roads they are among my top 3 tires.
Cool video. I like the look of the 244. have been looking at 804 and 805 also. at 1:30 The Geomax mx33 is now discontinued, the new one is the mx34, but neither are DOT rated, I think you meant the EN91. I have ran the mx33, they wear fast.
Thanks and yeah its always compromises. Theres great offroad performance, great road performance and longevity but you never get all 3.
The Swiss Army knife of the dual sport world. They come in a ton of different sizes and all at a very reasonable price. Had one that was defective. Otherwise, many miles of joy on and off road. 😊
Thanks for the review! How do these tires handle sugar sand? We have quite a bit of it here in South Jersey. I'm about to install an 18/21 rim set on a Sur-Ron Ultra Bee and want to avoid the extra weight of full moto tires. My main concern with the Shino's is their performance in sugar sand.
You’re welcome, in sand you’ll probably want something a bit more agressive (like Tusk Dsport for example), always compromises :)
Amigo ! Excelente video! Clear useful. Gracias. Greetings and respect to all from Durango Mexico 🇲🇽
Gracias señor! Thanks for watching and ride safe! :)
Canada and a motorbikes, cheers from Vancouver Island.
From one Canadian to another, thanks for watching! 🤜 🤛 🍁
Iv looked at these, but never purchased cuz looking at that front tire it just seems incapable of anything offroad. The rear looks perfect for a 50/50 tire, the knobs are spaced out enough. But the front has only 1/4" of gap between knobs. Iv had 805, 705, 606, Trakmasters, and D605. My favorite is the Dunlop D605 cuz both front and rear really respond well at 13-14psi and dont pinch tubes at that psi also.
I always run stock pressure and you'd be surprised what it can handle, as long as your not in deep sand or deep slippery mud, it does great. Tires are always compromises :)
@@Speedytrip Well thats what I was saying, they barely are a compromise when air'd down. That why i like these kind of tires so much. Try it sometime!
@@tieoneon1614 With lower pressure comes higher risk of pinch flats, thats why I prefer riding stock pressure, its not holding me back :)
I have just received a set of Shinko 705's as I pound more pavrment than dirt. Opted for a 130 / 90 rear to gain some height to compensate for no 6th gear. Will see how many kilometers they will do compare to the current Pirelli Scorpion Trail II's. Agree with the opinion on the DR. Explains why Suzuki have produced it for so long unchanged. Just really miss a 6th gear for commuting.
Ive had great experiences with the 705 as well, great tires!
I'm looking at a Shinko 244 for the rear tire on my KLR, do you think it would be ok in a 90?
Better to check klr facebook groups, Im sure plenty are running these tires :)
I would consider these if i ever got my versys x300
5:40 I looked away for a sec and when I looked back, I was trying to figure out what kind of animal this was with the long fat tail.
lol Possibly a sasquatch hybrid! :D
244 find their way to the front of many TW200s as well.
These tires are a really decent buy for most people. If you are a more aggressive rider you may want to at least find a better front tire because there are terrifying if you push the lean. They will simply wash out and you are down.
Indeed, always compromises, what they sacrifice offroad you gain on road and vice versa :)
Привет. На 250 кубовый мотоцикл подойдëт эта шина?
Sorry, I used google translate and not sure I understand your question :) This bike is a DR650 (650cc) and I'm in Canada.
@@Speedytrip эта шина будет работать на велосипеде 250 кубиков?
Sorry can you translate in English or French please? :)
How many kms on them now
About 4000km, theyve gotten a bit louder, About 30% left, a few small cracks on the rear tire, after many wheelies and wheel spinning offroad, they got quite the abuse :)
I run them on my crf250l, love them and cheap as chips
3.0 up front or 2.75?
why not kenda k270?
No particular reason they are nearly identical, I but havent tried them so can’t comment. Im sure theres many review on those as well as they are also popular 😎
I've got a set on my bike right now. I had trakmaster2's on before and these inspire a lot of confidence where the trakmasters were only good for throwing rocks lol
There's a lot of trakmaster fans out there, but I haven't tried them yet to compare. The Shinkos are just good all round, dual sport tire and are dirt cheap as a bonus. Keep the shiny side up and thanks for stopping by! :)
great channel tu merite plus de subscribers 😬❤
Merci, c’est apprécié! 😎
Agree.
60-60? This is a percentage rating, has to equal 100. Perhaps you mean 60-40?
That was intentional, its like you’re getting 120% ;)
Ah.@@Speedytrip
@@mcyclenut 😎
A lot of reviews say it’s more a 70/30 than a 50/50 tire
Thanks for the great review.
You’re welcome, glad it helped! :)
My take: the front is horrible but the rear is useful.
Horrible in what way? Tires, like motorcycles are all about compromises. If you have a track bike you want slicks, if you have a dirt bike you want MX tires. If you want a tire that does a bit of everything well, it won't be excellent at anything :) For what I do, both tires have worked great. If I planned on riding a lot in deep sand or slippery mud, I'd definitely get something more aggressive, just like if I went 95% of my time on road, I'd go with something more road oriented. Often it's more bad choices for the task than bad tires. :)
@@Speedytrip my take is I’d rather have something that is somewhat lacking on pavement than off road. I’ve ridden trails with these-just mostly hard packed gravel-and found them to be very off putting. They tended to wash out too easily, stripping away my confidence and were not that good on pavement either. I’ve had much better experiences on both conditions with more knobby DOT tires like Pirelli Scorpion Rally and IRC TR8, even the Motoz Rallz.
Tires and oil: a sure-fire way to start a debate. Glad you like them though. Ride safe!
PS I should have added, my perspective is from a DR650 and I’ve tried these tires twice. The second time I removed them early from disgust. First time I didn’t know any better.
@RGB872 Ive ridden these pretty hard, including with experienced ktm riders and on dirt/gravel roads the only times they could take the lead was in the straight lines :) Never experienced a slip on pavement, but yes agreed tires are a bit like oil we all have preferences, you’ll find fans of just about every kind of tires. For example Pirelli scorpions are very popular, but Ive had some dangerous close calls slipping on painted lines on pirellis, even in the dry, that Ive yet to experience with any other brand of tire :)