7 Steps To Building GREAT Worship Tone! (Line 6 HX Stomp)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, I help you build a Sunday-ready preset for the Line 6 HX Stomp from the ground up with no third party IR's. Use the time stamps to navigate to specific sections.
0:54 Set up the input block
3:49 Tweak the amp, cab and mic
8:30 Secret sauce #1
10:03 Tweaking overdrive
13:23 Secret sauce #2
15:57 Add in extra effects
17:14 Ambient swell tone
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This is a great video. Lately, my TH-cam recommendations have been inundated with videos about worship guitar pedalboards, and they're usually ridiculously expensive boards that cost thousands of dollars. Your video demonstrates that you can get a great sound, even a "worship" tone with the typical excessive amounts of delay, reverb, and "ambient sound" for well under a thousand dollars. Admittedly, it doesn't sound quite as great or impression as a full Helix board or a $3000 pedalboard with multiple Strymon pedals, but it's good enough and probably mostly indistinguishable in a mix or live with other instruments.
Thank you! LOL "typical excessive amounts of delay, reverb" yes, that sums up the current worship sound. I'm old enough to remember a time the Boss DD-20 was the ultimate delay pedal for all our ambient needs in church.
Thanks for sharing this!!!
You’re welcome! I hope it was helpful!
Outstanding work.
Thank you for the kind words!
Very helpful! Thanks Justin!
You're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful!
Been watching your videos lately. Great info you give!
Thank you for the kind words, John! I hope these have been useful for your ministry!
Thanks man Im glad I asked for this God Bless
I'm glad you found it useful! God bless you too!
Wow…. This was incredibly helpful! Thank you!!!!
You're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful.
Thank you 🙏🏼 really appreciate it Justin
Thank you for watching!
Such a good video, thank you!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
I really like these kind of videos.
I’m glad you like it! I hope it was useful for you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is immensely helpful to me.
You're welcome Steven! I'm glad it was helpful!
Justin, this is awesome. I followed all your steps just now. thanks.
Thanks for watching! I’m glad it was helpful!
Thanks Justin, great instruction video! It helped me a lot 😊
You’re welcome, and thank you for watching! I’m glad the content is helpful!
Much appreciated. I’m at work will go home and follow the steps.
I hope these steps prove helpful to you!
Thanks Justin!
You're welcome, Esther! Great to see you, I hope you're well!
Just followed the steps on my pod go, it sounds incredible!! Thanks!!
You’re welcome! I’m in the midst of planning for a POD Go version of this video!
Great video! Not long either, just right. You covered the topic how and the why without excessive information. Excellent job, as always, and thank you!
Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this awesome video! I’ve been playing for a few years now and the changes you recommended have breathed new life into my tone! Thank you!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching! I’m also continually learning new things to improve tone on the Helix ecosystem. There are so many things to explore!
Just bought a stomp recently and this has really helped 🙏🏼. God bless you!
Glad to help! Welcome to the wonderful world of the HX Stomp!
Get that pre delay up on the glitz to 103/104 and your preset will be on point! Nice work man
Thanks for the tip and for the kind words! I've been on the fence with longer pre-delay. Will try!
Fantastic video! I often find myself find myself tweaking my presets and making them muddier and then wonder why I'm getting lost in the mix. :P This one is being bookmarked for sure! Thanks, Justin!
Thank you Bob! By itself, the guitar might sound really bright, but in context with a mix, that’s where we find out if the guitar sits well or not. I will typically play over my church’s live pre-fader recordings to double check if my guitar tone is clashing or getting buried in the mix.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar, Justin, can you explain a bit more about what you mean when you say “play over the pre-fader recording”?
Sorry I only got to this now, TH-cam didn’t ping me on this! My church’s mixer has a USB output that records all inputs with the onboard mixer processing, but their output levels are not determined by the mixer’s volume faders. So I get the raw input sound from the mixer (multi track) which I can mix in post.
bro thank you so much this made our worship sound alot better
You’re welcome, and thank you for watching! I’m glad it helped you and your church!
very scary that your 'worship' sounds better.
@jst601 I believe it’s convenient shorthand meaning the sound of the guitar at Sunday service had an improvement.
Im so glad i bought my hxstomp just before pandemic starts when it was still cheaper (at least in my country) than now. And i'm blessed to have found your channel. i occasionally plays guitar at my church, and been searching for tone tutorials, you're one of those that i will treasure for each detailed steps and reasonings.
i still have my guitar messed up, haven't put it back altogether after tearing it down from changing the hum pickup to a better one. Will surely check out these steps of yours.
God Bless You.
Thank you for the kind words, and I hope my content helps you sound and play better for our King! And sounds like you’re a handy man, I wish I had the skill to take apart a guitar and fiddle with the internals. I spend waaay too much sending guitars to techs for that stuff.
Thanks a lot man! Just bought my first helix product ever (hx stomp xl) and have no idea about amps, cabs, other parameters but learned a lot with this video.
You’re welcome! And welcome aboard the Helix train! 5 years on and I’m still using my Helix products every day, so there’s definitely some longevity to the purchase. I have a complete beginner’s guide to the Stomp which will apply except for the hardware side of things (with the XL having extra switches and snapshot feature):
th-cam.com/video/z3rGfRRdLeg/w-d-xo.html
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar thanks so much justin! I'm from the Philippines and have only basic knowledge on basic gear because thats all we have 😅but definitely trying to upgrade litltle by little so your resources are soooo helpful. God bless you man!
yup the 3.5 cabs are IR based i think!! love the matchless cabs in the 3.6 update too!! very very full yet chimey
I haven’t had the time to play with them all! Been wanting to do a GSG AIO but alas, I have kids to take care of…
PROS: Great video, I like some of the sounds you captured.
CONS: Your picture-in-picture hid the interface. Would have been nice to see what you were doing in the background.
Hi Tom, thank you for the kind words and for the feedback. One of the problems I faced was that my editing laptop screen is quite small and I missed that detail! I've since changed my setup and capture style, and moving forward it will be my new standard!
th-cam.com/video/tU0YHHn_3n8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the video! Do you have a detailed step-by-step
video tutorial on how to configure midi buttons using Line 6 HX I have Ampero Control Footswitch,
perhaps you have paid content about this? Blessings brother. (Ukraine, Kyiv)
Blessings, brother from Ukraine! Thank you for the kind words. I don't have one specifically for the Ampero Control, but reading up on the product and the manual, it seems like all you need to do is connect the MIDI out from the Ampero to the MIDI in of the HX Stomp, and then check the HX Stomp manual as to which CC messages control things you want the Ampero to toggle. Make sure that the Ampero is transmitting over the same channel that the HX Stomp is receiving.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar Thanks for the answer. You are doing very important work, may God bless you. What you are doing is very encouraging for God's work.
Another great video Justin, and I really enjoyed building a preset along side the video.
Many worship patches are very stereo friendly and a lot of the lushesness (is that even a word?) comes from some wonderful stereo effects (inc dual amps or cab blocks).
I’m sure I’m not the only one who doesn’t have the luxury of running stereo on Sunday morning, so I was wondering if you’d be up for making a video on creating a mono friendly worship patch, either a fully mono patch, or a stereo-lite patch that doesn’t suffer too much when summed to mono.
I'm in the same boat sadly
Hi Stuart, thank you for the kind words! I have pondered the issue of mono-summed patches, and have wondered if I can create a purely mono patch (including delays and reverbs). As of now, I have yet to figure out which of the mono versions of reverbs sound good, everything I've tried sounds like mush!
Thanks for the video idea, it's definitely in the pipeline!
Jason Sadites did a great video on this topic about 5 months ago where he addressed the topic of mono friendly stereo patches (it was really about understanding what makes a patch stereo and how you can, sometimes inadvertently, sum it to mono), but would love to see one that was focussed on worship tone - th-cam.com/video/3eTfhs8J5IU/w-d-xo.html
Great video! One question... when you were creating your "one switch to go from ambient to super ambient" you assigned mix and decay settings to the footswitch, but then you made changes to other parameters of the reverb and delay blocks WITHOUT assigning them to the footswitch. So, were you adjusting your core reverb tones (non super ambient) as well, or did you mean to assign these parameters to the footswitch as well??
Thanks! Oh I was tweaking the core reverb tone, the only parameters I assigned to the switch were the Mix and Decay. I typically aim for a brighter reverb by shifting the low and high cuts. At higher ambience, that low end can be thunderous!
This is excellent Justin! I will use this as a guide. I want to experiment with putting my Joe Walsh Double Classic, MXR Timmy and Duke of Tone, and Nobels ODR1 in front of the HX to see how it reacts and if can free up blocks. I appreciate that you did this with a humbucker equipped guitar as my MM Cutlas is HSS and I use the MM 75% of the time at church. It does have an articulate and well-balanced humbucker though. Once again, thank you for this - and is very easy to follow.
Thank you for the kind words, Jack! Wow that’s a lot of nice external pedals, especially that Nobels! (I have an old one that I’m never selling, it’s my secret sauce for the Nashville sound)
You’ll certainly free up enough blocks for the DSP-intensive mods, delays and reverbs, or a pair of stereo amps!
Thanks. I was hoping this was setup directly on the actual hardware (my PC does not run the EDIT software), I believe I can do this manually using your "values" on the screen. A wish there was a way of doing an ASCII dump of a patch listing ALL the used "effects/modifiers" so to allow us Linux PC users a way of easily manually adding these wonderful patches. Perhaps someone could write an app to convert a dump patch to an ASCII patch.
Sorry for the inconvenience! To be honest I’m really bad at the physical knob tweaking, as I’ve been a PC editing tweaker since the PODxt days.
Thank you - this is very helpful! Is this preset included in the Free Pack? If so, which file is it?
You're welcome, I'm glad it's helpful! Yes, it's the Essex AIO uploaded on May 19, 2023.
Hi, I am looking to purchase my first pedal and looking into getting either the HX stomp or HX stomp XL. Which one would you recommend?
Hi! Glad to hear you’re going to take the plunge into the wonderful world of effects! The Stomp has fewer switches and is suited for pedalboard integration, while the Stomp XL only really lacks an expression pedal and it works like a mini Helix LT. If you’re aiming to build a bigger board in the future (or at least want the flexibility to build one), I’d say go with the Stomp.
Can you use the HX stomp with headphones? Does it have a feature to adjust headphone volume, like the helix floor does?
Hi Erick, yes you can. The volume knob affects both the output and the headphone output, which I think you can change it in Global Settings.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar Cool! I am stuck between getting HX stomp and building a small pedalboard like your "Strifecta" or simply getting a helix. My church just got very expensive amps, and I think they want us to use them - so now I'm unsure about helix floor. But I want to maintain modeling somehow in case I ever play somewhere else that DOESN'T have real amps. Does helix floor work well with using alongside real amps? (Assuming I turn off amp blocks in helix). Or do you have a video talking about using Helix floor with a real amp?
I have a fresh updated HX Edit and HX Stomp XL. Downloaded your patches, Tried to "Import Preset" with HLX-Modern P_W S.hix. I'm getting an error indicating "HX Edit was unable to import presets in this set due to following errors: -8701 - Preset translation not supported, dsp block constraint exceeded". This is my very FIRST download and install of a patch. Am I doing something wrong? I'm doing this on a borrowed MAC since Line 6 does not support Linux. Appreciate any help.
Hi! The HLX patches are for the Helix, for the HX Stomp XL, you should be using the HXS patches (I believe they should work, as they are originally HX Stomp patches).
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar I went back and read your README doc hoping to find some explaination of the filename->to the->device. I actually thought the HXS was for single coil guitars and HXH for humbuckers. I will try the new file and respond. Thanks for the reply. Great channel.
Yes I got my Stomp XL out of storage and tried importing the patch. It worked but I'm overwhelmed by all that is in the folder. I've currently moved to the Spark 40 for church. It is A LOT easier to get the tones I'm looking for.
Expression set to level on the kinky boost then?
That could work! But that means you won’t have the two-button switch (it’s an either/or situation with the Stomp).
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar thanks Justin, awesome stuff. I’m gonna use it with MC6-PRO so that’ll cover extra FS’s I suppose. Keep up the good work!
13 KHz for a high cut is way too high, there's nothing but sizzle up there. That's why you don't like the SM57. Cut it down to 5 KHz and you'll remove all that harshness.
Hi there! I'm finding that if I were to cut that low to even 9kHz and beyond, I think I lose some of the character of the cabinet, even though with a real cab I would make a high cut at 5-6kHz. There's something about the processing character in the Line 6 ecosystem (it's also present in the HX Stomp and POD Go). I'm sure it feels different across the various modelers.
Wish I could pay a hacker to crack into my Stomp & delete 90% of the "amps" & add a feature to allow me to change all colors both on the Stomp & in HX Edit, to *one color* or whatever color i want.
I quote a line from Alien Vs Predator, “Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.” I too stick to three amp models but every once in a while I have a client or a production that needs something out of my wheelhouse (like a metal song).
you lost me I don't how to do the assign a switch
It's easier on the computer editor. On a block, right click it and you will see some options, including "bypass assign" which you can assign to a switch. That will turn the footswitch into an effect bypass.
On the more advanced side of things, if you hover over a parameter, let's say "drive" on an overdrive, and right click it, you have the option to assign it to a switch and configure min/max values. This allows you to switch values between two states, like a low drive and a high drive.
Worship tone
Lol
Yup I’m aware of the nomenclature problem, I’m just using it as convenient shorthand.