If you're learning French and didn't really understand the lady, it's normal. You're used to a very generic French accent. There's many French accents out there that you're going to come across, so don't give up and keep an open mind. 👍
Being a Montrealer, I KNOW that les Québécois are master hypocrites. They HATE anything that is locally English but bend over backward to serve American tourists with 'European' charm in English ! The three other major ethnicities (English, Irish, Scottish), who developed the City of Montreal, speak English and are also European. They also contributed and continue to contribute to the Old World charm of Montreal and other regions of Quebec. This fact is conveniently overlooked by les Québécois."La joie de vie' of les Québécois is often found at the bottom of the many glasses of beer and wine that they consume on a regular basis. Their French 'distinct character' is nothing more than the American culture translated into a second-rate French copy,
I think I can explain your observation, but before I continue I want to make clear that I like both English and Quebecois languages and cultures and don't favour any one of them. The hypocrisy you noticed could be for two reasons: 1- Many Québécois (unfortunately) still have an hatred and resentment for many English rulers from decades ago who got abusive with their power. Other english-speaking immigrants who were not descendants of abusive rulers were themselves more welcome in the province ; 2- Other Québécois might feel that long-term residents of such a french speaking and cultured province as Quebec, should really have learned french by now and are perhaps lazy or even comptemptuous. Notice that this applies to other languages aside from English. Again, I take no sides here, I think any kind of hatred between humans should not exist, only love for each other :-)
Bob O'Brien I think it's a problem across Canada. Anglophones can be passive-agressive, Francophones can be condescending if you don't speak proper French or downright rude. I'm from New Brunswick, so I guess I'm in between. I really like it when anglophones try to speak French to me. It's rare, but it does happen from time to time. It should be encouraged. When you go south, let's say to Fredericton/Saint John, it's a different story. They hate French and they keep blaming the francophones for the bad finances of the province. I think it's unfair and they should break out of that mentality from their parents/grandparents.
quebec french and france french is way further away than american english and british english. a better comparison is London english vs Geordie english
I’ve been to Montreal and Quebec before and my experience was exactly how she described. I’m from Los Angeles but I studied French in high school and was very excited about going to a French speaking country. The people in Montreal were nice however everyone spoke English there and really only spoke French to me because I asked them to. When I went to Quebec there were more French speakers and extremely supportive and encouraging in engaging me and my limited French speaking skills. It was a very great experience.... Im going to Paris in 2 months so I’m curious to see how that experience will be because I will be bringing my limited French there too!
How did your French go in France? I don’t know French, but have always been curious about the language? I know there is a stigma in the US between Quebec and France, but I just think it’s all about attitude and really, just being accepting between all people. But who knows right, I could be wrong.
Well done Benny, I liked the video ( and gave it a like) and was impressed with your French. Your friend has a few stereotypical views on some things but seemed really pleasant. Not all, not even most, French are arrogant and talk loud, and just as many Quebecois are arrogant and talk loud, but in general the Quebecois are more relaxed and jovial.
I'm a Moroccan, actually the reason i loved speaking english and having the inetrest of learning it was the aptitude of the english toward me when i started learn it. They always courage you even if you do mistakes they always say its fine you will learn. and here i am i can say i speak good english even thou i make mistakes but i'm still learning
Just to help you learn, I corrected your comment for you: I'm a Moroccan, the reason I love speaking English and have an interest in learning it was the attitude of English speakers towards me when I started learning. They always encourage you, even if you make mistakes and they always say it's fine you will learn. And here I am I can say that I speak English well even though I makes mistakes. But I'm still learning. Good luck with your studies!
French Canadian language accent was the French accent used 300 years ago in France (only a Small minority was able to speack french on those Times) and Settlers from kingdown of France did not speak french ...
They did actually, those that did not speak french had to quickly adapt. General Montcalm documented in his memoirs that the french spoken in New France was impeccable.
As someone who has lived and worked in Montreal her whole life, I can say that I have never worked a service job that didn't require me to speak French, so I'm not exactly sure what she means by "It's hard to get served in French". English is usually the optional language, unless you're working in a touristy area, then French and English are usually required. However, this video is a decade old, so maybe it was difficult to be served in French in Montreal in 2011.
Bilingualism is pretty typical in service jobs in Montreal (and not unusual in Ottawa-Gatineau for that matter). That said, I have run into the occasional place in Montreal that was unilingual (most often French but at times English speaking). Running into places where one language or the other was spoken but in a somewhat broken fashion is more common (but still far rarer than comfortably bilingual places). Yes, there are still some places where you can't get decent service in French or where they'll give you the "you don't belong here" stinkeye for doing it but honestly, they are very much the exception rather than the rule (and usually run but some old jackass with an attitude problem) and they get rarer and rarer as they years go by. In my experience, most places will happily do their best to provide service in either language unless you run into a jerk with an axe to grind (on either side of the linguistic divide). Most Montrealers are pretty live and let live. Honestly, having trouble getting served in French used to be more common in the past. I remember when getting decent service in French in half of downtown was hit or miss and it was dicey at best out in Westmount, TMR and the west island but that was back in the '80s and '90s. I was bilingual and it never phased me much but I noticed it. I've got uncles who literally got told off for asking for service in French in Montreal but this was back in the '70s (but those experience really stuck with them and fueled their politics ever since). Sadly, all it takes is one or two bad experiences (your own or a family member) to feed one's confirmation biases. It's such a regular talking point for some politicians that people buy into it, especially folks who don't actually live in the city. A lot of the folks who I've heard complain about how hard it is to get service in certain parts of Montreal don't actually seem to go to those parts because they're convinced they won't get treated well. It can become a bit circular.
Allot of people might be surprised about what I'm about to say, but there are allot of french Canadians in ONTARIO. Especially eastern Ontario. J'en suis un!
C'est une vieille vidéo, mais je me permets de commenter tout de même. Je suis français et j'adore entendre une personne dont cette langue n'est pas sa "mother tongue" et qui parle français. Je trouve ça mignon et très flatteur qu'un étranger veuille apprendre cette langue (qui est difficile). Et c'est délicat car les français semblent ne pas aimer apprendre d'autres langues et peu d'entre nous savent VRAIMENT parler anglais par exemple. C'est plus courant chez les jeunes je pense. J'aime découvrir de nouvelles cultures et apprendre d'autres langues. J'aime aussi énormément le Québec et j'espère que tout le monde ne pense pas que TOUS les français sont fermés d'esprit. Vive le monde ! Vive les langues ! Et vive la diversité culturelle !
Vous pourriez aussi rencontrer des Québécois fermés d'esprit, comme partout ailleurs dans le monde. Les Français que j'ai la chance de connaître sont gentils. Vive la France!
I'm very surprised to read such comments like "this guy doesn't have any French accent" ,"ça me fait mal de l'écouter parler" etc. For me it means that people don't have any respect for those who speak languages and all time / all inputs they gave to learn a language. I'm from Russia, I speak classical french and have never been to Canada, but I understand both of them and see nothing funny in way the guy is speaking. If I meet smbd from abroad who speaks Russian, even making mistakes and not having a good accent in Russian, I would never laugh, I would respect this person because for me it would mean that this person did his/her best to speak my language, which is quite difficult and has nothing to do with French, German, English etc. in terms of grammar, vocabulary etc.
That's actually amazing! I had French in school for 3 years, and was so excited to go to France, but people refused to speak to me because my French wasn't really 100% and apparently they also hate english, I guess. I've been really bummed thinking I totally learned it in vain except for reading, but if there is a part of lovely Canada where people will accept my now rusty French that would make my day. À bientôt, j'espère, Québec!
This is so interesting, it's exactly the same with Spanish from Spain and Spanish from other places, if you say something slightly different than the Spanish (the people from Spain) or don't say it in a very specific way they'll look at you as if you are crazy, like, I don't understand how they can get so confused if it's not exactly in the way they're saying stuff.... Great video!!
Thank you so much for posting this video, my family comes from French Canada and I am trying to learn French and this video explains a lot of the differences between the two types of French language or dialects. Thank you so much for doing this
I live in Montréal and I feel like no one here speaks English or French exclusively. We all combine both in casual talks. I can't remember the last time I spoke to someone who wasn't at least bilingual.
Québécois speak French with more separate sounds and pointed consonants, kind of like a Canadian English accent does with English, whereas the French speak more fluidly and continuously from one word to the next, almost combining the words and sounds.
I am a Franco-Ontarian, more specifically I am a French speaker from Sudbury, Ontario. Sometimes when I go to Québec, they mistake my Ontarian French accent for an English accent and will try to accommodate me in English. I would rather speak French, but I like to speak whichever language one wants to speak. When I went to France, the French thought that I had a Québécois accent. However, I did not want to explain the diversity of French speakers in Canada. Je suis Franco-Ontarien, et plus spécifiquement je suis un francophone de Sudbury, Ontario. Desfois quand je visite le Québec, ils font l'erreur de penser que je suis un anglophone à cause de mon accent Ontarien, alors ils vont essaiyer de me parler en anglais. J'aime mieux parler le français, mais je vais parler la langue qu'on veut parler. Quand j'étais en France, les Français pensaient que j'avais un accent québécois. Cependant, je ne voulais pas leur expliquer la diversité des francophones au Canada!
I hear this a lot from french speakers who are from Sudbury.. I think the reason is that it sounds slightly different than the french you will hear in outaouais region and therefore they might associate it with a non native speaker. That said seriously, they bitch and moan about loss of the language and then they switch to english for someone who is speaking their language. Does that make any sense?
Your French doesn't sound really natural... I am French and no one really says ''mais je vais parler la langue qu'on veut parler''. Your sound like an English speaker rather than a French speaker
French in Quebec is turning into it's own language. Which is to be expected. Joual and franglais are the precursors. For those who don't know Joual is Quebecs' cockney English.
Yup. When you have centuries of linguistic separation languages will evolve until they become unintelligible. The only thing that prevents this is contemporary telecommunications. For example, if we were to cease contact with England for 500 years, we would likely have lost the ability to communicate when we reestablished it.
Hey everyone! There is a mistake in the video, where we don't mention that in Nouveau Brunswick they speak French too. If you want to comment on that, please reply to this comment rather than starting a new one. Thank you!
There are pockets of French Canadians all through Canada not just in New Brunswick & Quebec. Northern Ontario & South Eastern Ontario have a lot of people there who speak French.
True that! I remember crossing the border from Quebec to Ontario and thinking (this was back when I knew much less French than I know now) that we were in the clear, language-wise. Not so. For the first several stops, the default language was still French.
You are correct. I'm a French speaker from Northern Ontario (Sudbury) and I now live in Southeastern Ontario (Ottawa). I grew up in a French speaking community and I went to French school. While English is the main language, it's pretty easy to speak French to a lot of people within our communities.
Ha ha... 10:40. Most memorable interaction living in Quebec city and going to U Laval in 1993 for a summer to learn French. Going to the Metro (supermarket) in the suburb of Ste Foy and not being able to find butter in the dairy section. Asking and pronouncing "beurre" the way I learned it in Ontario and getting a blank stare. I had an 'oh shit' moment. Fortunately, had a teacher way back when who use jingles and commercials that were memorable. Recounted "Le beurre est meilleure que le margarin..." Store staff had a light on go above their head. "Ahhh... du barrrr... c'est dans la congelatarrrr... l'aisle numero..."
This video is a little critical of Parisians, and unfairly groups them together with the French in general. Other French speakers are not represented by Parisians, and in Paris there are many exceptions with extremely friendly people. Like this comment or reply to it if you agree, rather than starting a new thread please ;) For more info on my thoughts about getting along with Parisians, please read this blog article, where I say how maybe visitors to Paris, rather than the Parisians themselves, may be the closed minded ones: www.fluentin3months.com/closed-minded/
ha thank you !!! Yes people from paris are not the same as the rest of france. Il y a paris et la province sniff !! And yes i have friends from Paris and they are normal. But it's true that in cities like Paris or Lyon it is "assez bourgeois" and it can seem unfriendly. I've never been to Québec but would like to visit it, it seems so nice !!
Dernièrement, j'ai remarqué qu' à Montréal, l'accent commence à se distancier du typique accent québécois (ou autrement dit le jouale). En fait, ça commence à sonner comme un français sans accent particulier. On mélange même les slangs d'origine créole, certains termes typiquement français et des expressions pûrement américaines. C'est très particulier.
yeah exactly, or i’d say like irish english and north american english. we are saying the same things and can understand each other but different choices of words, expressions, the accent difference can be v prominent with some sentences and you have to ask for it to be said again just to be like OHHH
Pretty much. Quebec French and other Canadian (and American) French dialects sound quite different in terms of phonology (it's basically 17th-18th century northern French that evolved apart from Europe after 1760). European French underwent some pretty significant phonetic changes after the French Revolution and as France created and imposed standard French during the 19th and 20th centuries and the French spoken in Canada, New England and Louisiana did experience those changes so it kind of sounds archaic to Europeans. Our R's sound like they're out of the 1700s, our nasal vowels don't sound "modern" (like how the speaker in the video compared the different pronunciation of "beurre") and we pronounce T's and D's with affrication when they precede most I's and U's (producing what sounds like a Ts and Dz sound to a European - meanwhile their T's and D's sound unnaturally clipped to our ears). Formal written Canadian French is closer to European French than American English is to British English. It's more like Canadian English to British English in terms of writing. The big differences tend to show up in informal speech and writing (like texting and other informal writing). Given that we're the French speaking world's equivalent to Australians (stereotyped as cheerful, loud and informal), the French get hung up on our informal speech registers a fair bit.
i know im late but i find this interesting because im also from montreal and ive found that it is impossible to get any sort of job if you do not speak french
La France ne se limite pas à Paris. Pour apprendre le français, allez dans d'autres régions, on vous accueillera correctement. Même pour nous, provinciaux, les parisiens ont l'étiquette "pédants et/ou désagréables". Il doit y avoir un fond de vérité. ;)
I have heard and seen from different friends that native French and English speakers (not all people) don't like it when you're not a native and don't speak their language well. Something really opposite and great happens in Spanish countries such as all Latinamerica, we're proud to be latin and we love to see foreigners to learn our culture, but we don't offend or get mad just because someone doesn't speak Spanish fluently. We actually love to help people to understand and also have a good time. At least here in Colombia.
I am from the untied states and have learned French in high school. I have visited Montreal every single weekend for the past year and it is still easier for me to understand a French speaker from France than from Quebec. Lately I've been trying to put my foot down more and only speak French in Montreal and see where it takes me.
Pour moi l'accent québécois est plus difficile de comprendre mais je l'aime por la meme raison. Il faut pratiquer avec les deux accents (de la France aussi) et tous les autres. Je comprends meilleur le video maintenant. Merci à vous deux.
Little correction (I'm from Quebec). Quebec is officially a unilingual province (French) even if there are a lot of English speakers. New-Brunswick is the only bilingual province, with a majority of English speakers!
I once had a very civilized conversation with a Sports Writer from Montreal. As a Sports Writer myself and being fluent in French, I found this amazing. We spoke in French and despite every now and then when he didn't understand each other, we simply changed to English. We avoided conflicts. We understood that we'd both run into confusion because of the variations of the language, as well as the accent, vocabulary, etc. It was mutual respect.
The problem is that you don't speak about french attitude, but about the attitude of the people of Paris, which is Soooooooooo different that the other inhabitants of France. Congratulations, you've got a very good french accent.
Il faut faire la différence entre une certaine "attitude Parisienne "(sans généraliser à tous les Parisiens bien sûr) et le reste de la France. Les Français dans leur ensemble ne sont pas forcément plus hautains que les ressortissents d'autres pays. C'est cette "mentalité parisienne" qui donne une mauvaise image de la France. D'ailleurs chose intéressante à savoir les "Parisiens" ont parfois tendance à prendre le reste de la France de haut .... Donc nous autres français non parisiens nous sommes pris de hauts par les "Parisiens" et en plus on subit les critiques des étrangers qui nous assimilent à eux. Donc Paris est une ville magnifique à connaître quand on vient en France mais ce n'est pas une ville tout à fait représentative de l'ensemble de la France au niveau des mentalités bien qu'elle ait une certaine influence sur le reste du pays. Par ailleurs il y'a plein d'autres coins et villes magnifiques à connaître en France où les gens sont restés certainement plus accueillants et chaleureux.
I think it’s true that French speakers are picky because at my school, one of our French teachers are from Canada, and most of the French students say that her French is terrible.
She probably didn't live in the french part of Canada like Quebec in Nouveau Brunswick she probably lived in Ontario and took a few french classes and thought she was better then she actually was
thats because the french are pretentious. more so than the british. the french had a napoleon. the french helped build the free world. us. and they only did it to fuck over england. after ww2 the were they only country to literally pay us back. they earned the right to feel the way they do. my country is why the brits cant say the sun never sets on the british empire. for that you cant put a price on it. look at it this way. they have so little. so throw them a bone every once in a while.
there was also a law that made parisian french the standard. so there are no dialects. french today as spoken in france is basically the same as 100 years ago. they aim to preserve. and i can appreciate that.
Une chose qu'on prononce un peu différemment en Francais Quebecois c'est le genre de S, ou Z prononcé après les D, ou les T parfois. *One thing that we pronounce a bit differently in Quebec french is a kind of S, or Z right after D's or T's sometimes. Example with the simple phrase: "We say this, or that."* France: On DIT ceci, ou cela. Québec: On dit (DZI) ceci, ou celA (avec le dernier a plus grave, comme expliqué dans le video) (*with the last A pronounced deeper, as explained in the video*) La répétition de certains pronoms pour amplifier le pouvoir d'une phrase étais quelque chose de présent en Francais archaique, et on peux en retrouver des reliques dans le Francais Québécois parfois également. *The repetition of certain pronouns was used in archaic French to amplify a sentence's meaning, and you can find relics of that in nowaday Quebec French sometimes as well. Example with the simple phrase: "You really want that?"* France: Tu veux vraiment ça? Québec: Tu (TSU) veux-tu (TSU) vraiment ça? C'est tout ce qu'il me viens en tête pour l'instant... il y a évidemment beaucoup plus de légères nuances, mais ça ajoute au vidéo, je pense. :-) *That's all that comes to mind for now... there's of course a lot of slighter nuances, but it adds to the video, I think. :-)*
LOII it's true... EN: french people = pretentious. Quebec people = Grumpy. Try to prononce that : Fr: Les français sont arrogants, mais Nous les Québécois sommes très râleur. Now try to prononce the same thing but in Quebecer version : "Lé français sont'arrogants pis nous autres lé Québécois on es chialeux en criss." XDD
my French friend laughs at my attempts to communicate in his language ... he says in his family, someone who spoke that way would be called un petit negre or une vache Espagnole ... French is the most beautiful language in the world when spoken beautifully ... I have rarely found the French to be snooty to me because they seem to just get it that I love their country and so I don't say much and just listen and look and smile all the time ... J'espère y retourner un jour, peut-être l'année prochaine ... sinon j'y vivrai dans mes souvenirs
I have to tell my sad story. I live in Quebec since last year and I've been studying/learning french by myself at home and I think we all agree it's easier to find tutorials or information in french but in french from France and okay everything was good till I had to practice with local people and omg! I can not get almost anything of what they say. In my humble opinion I considerer French from Quebec is harder :(
Je te recommande d'utiliser des applications pour trouver quelqu'un avec qui faire un échange linguistique (tu leur enseigne l'anglais ou l'espagnol et ils t'enseignent le québécois). Ainsi j'ai trouvé beaucoup de gens avec qui pratiquer, particulièrement sur "Speaky". Bonne chance!
It's true. The slang of Quebec French really needs to be what Canadians are taught when taught French because otherwise, the slang just sounds like ducks quacking. I'm from Montreal so I can make out most of it but it changes so fast that after living in Ontario for so long, I sometimes stumble to understand it now.
Understood it’s because you are learning two different dialects. You’re learning standard French and experiencing quebecois so that’s where your opinion becomes bias. If you learn French to at least an intermediate level you’ll be able to get around quebecois
I started learning French 2 years ago from the French, and I can say the French are perfectionists. Tbh there are so many accents it doesn't matter if it's the French way or not, there is the African accent, Lebanese accent, the German, Swiss, Belgian, Canadian accent etc. It's interesting seeing so many accents.
well i have question bro can understand them all !? if you cant so so how many of them can understand !? cause i wanna learn French but i dont know how its exactly im confused about these accents...
@@xv9797 Hi! Frenchie from Montréal here. Here's what you need to know about the Québécois accent: it's not so much the accent that's the problem, it's the slang and contractions that we use. All of us here learn how to speak with proper grammar and stuff, but, as every language does, we have our own slang and contractions we use amongst ourselves. If you want to learn French, go for it! If you're planning on going to Québec though, just be aware that you might not understand the conversations you hear around in the streets. But if you're struggling to understand, you can ask us to speak slower and you should be fine hahaha, good luck!
Je suis québécoise et je remarque que la fille se force énormément pour bien prononcer pour se faire comprendre ! Imaginez! xD La preuve qu'on est incompréhensible au naturel si on ne fait pas d'effort! XD
bah dommage! j'ira a l'université en Montréal cet été (je suis américaine) et j'ai appris le français de France. J'espère que je sera able du comprendre mais maintenant je suis pas trop sûre :0
@@liverin8514 tu vas t'y habitué, mais en général une fois que les personnes comprennent que le français n'est pas ta première langue, ils vont soit essayer de parler un "meilleur" français (sans le slang quebecois) ou sinon ils vont être courtois et communiquer en anglais
They also speak French in Ontario (Quebecois French and Ontario French) there are enclaves in Ontario where they dominate over English. I live in a bilingual Municipality, all services are provided in French and English. They do answer the phone in French first here when you need to talk to any city or municipal service that you need. Also there French language schools all over the area. I don't know why they complain so much in Montreal as they bend over backwards for the Francophone community in Ontario. The provincial level here in Ontario is completely bilingual where it is not in Quebec. Quebecois is the sole language of Quebec.
En Louisiane, on dit "les anglais ou les américains" pour les autres qui parlent pas le français. Spécialement le monde qui vient d'un autre état comme le texas.
Au Canada, "les anglais" c'est les canadiens anglophones. "Les anglais d'Angleterre" c'est les anglais dans le sens que les français utilisent le mot "anglais" (les gens qui viennent d'Angleterre).
Im portuguese and Id say so myself too. His pronounciation was a lot clearer to me even though I literally just came back from a trip to Montreal a couple weeks ago and I really had to come here and find out what the heck were those people speaking because even though I don't speak french, it didn't sound like french to me. lol
@@fireleaf2937 To be fair, while the formal French is identical (aside from minor vocabulary differences) even the formal registers of the spoken accent do still have the typical characteristics of a New World French accent. The nasal vowels are shifted (or more accurately, Europe experienced a vowel shift that North America did not), the R is normally rolled rather than trilled, affrication of the T's and D's occurs after most I's and U's (the Ts and Dz sounds rather than clipped T and D - clipped T's and D's sound weird in a North American French accent) and overall the language is spoken further back in the mouth (more mid-mouth rather than front-of-the-mouth, with throaty sounds coming from deeper in the throat). Basically, it's an older sounding phonology and you hear it from Quebec to Louisiana so it seems to have gelled sometime around the 18th century and mostly stayed consistent since (while Europe changed a lot in the 19th and early 20th centuries). It's perfectly good French but it is a different accent. It can strike folks unfamiliar with it as unusual, much like a Scottish English accent can.
Benny, Quebec and New Brunswick aren't the only French places. Ontario is very French as are some western cities. New Brunswick is the only bilingual province.
Funny part is down here we need french to graduate hs...like its mandatory for anglophones to speak french but francophones dont need to learn how to speak english...so much for us being the only bilingual province
Are you kidding me? You can easily get a job in Montreal without speaking much English. If your English you can have a hard time getting a job unless your level or French is good!
Julian ohhh my friend...i work in montreal...close to the st laurent street...let me say this...i better know little english ...of not....beyyer go far east side of island
It’s the fourth time I am watching this video, the 1st/2nd time was 3 years ago so my French was not as good as now… And this time, I finally hear a sentence in which is not subtitled: at ~9:25 she said “…justement pour protéger le français dans notre même province, ‘qui euh reste en province jusqu’à maintenant.’” The quotation part is not subtitled and translated as ‘which (Québec) is still a province until now’. It just makes me laugh so hard hahaha (cuz I didn’t notice that at the first time) XD
From an insider it sounds like London English to a UK RP accent although it is more colourful its also less eloquent. This girl here is your typical separatist working class Quebecer. The upper class speak a much more pure French and is very much closer to a French from EU. They are also less aggressive towards non french speaking Canadians. Much less us vs them attitude.
She says that they welcome anyone who wants to learn their dialect, but then why is ther such a lack of resources on how to learn the dialect. No online courses, books on it are rare, and it seems even harder for me to find information on it in English. It seems more info is directed towards French people learning Quebecois
I live in Plattsburgh NY which is right near Quebec. We get a ton of Quebecois who come down here and I head up to Montreal a few times a year and I have to say I've been fascinated by their language since I was a kid. I actually prefer the sound of it over Parisian French. I've picked up some stuff but I would love to be able to speak Quebecois French fluently.
Yep! In my travels, I made sure to maintain my languages. She was my Couchsurfer, helping me maintain my French, while I was actually learning Dutch :D :D
Vous êtes maintenant 29 pourcent de Francophone qui parlent Français à la maison 49 pourcent en 1970 vous êtes en phase d'assimilation Anglo totale d'ici 2050 malheureusement
Yeah that's often forgotten, only major difference is Quebec is mostly french with little english spoken outside of urban Montreal, while New Brunswick is still majority English with Francophones in the minority, though still an official language especially for Federal Services and the like.
I speak French a bit, but when I search most jobs in Quebec so if you're an English speaker then it's the same for French speakers it's even required to be bilingual
Merci Benny, pour cet entretien intéressant. Je viens de rentrer d’un stage de français à UQTR où ils nous ont dit les mêmes chose que vous par rapport aux différences entre les deux façons de s’exprimer. Je parle le français Louisianais, alors nous avons un accent beaucoup plus proche de l’accent québécois.
I am English, love France & Canada & wish I knew more of Quebec. This vlog is fascinating, brilliant & I wish I could be fostered for 5 years, so I could get a real good feel & experience of being with Quebecians. Merci beaucoup 🤗
@mediaevalautumn Glad you feel I'm that comfortable with it :) Actually I'd be much more confident in Spanish and Portuguese in comparison, as you'll see in later videos! ;) This is only the first in a series of unscripted interviews I'll be doing in all my languages.
Still very funny to see both of them come over all the way to The Netherlands, to sit down at a nice pub to discuss... french. Je n'ai jamais su qu'on avait besoin du terrain neutre pour ça.. ;)
im always surprised that more ppl dont know french, yes the language can be a little daunting at first,but if you know English for me i can see the common root in a lot of words, this atually goes for German as well, ie short words-German, long words- French in the English language. Funny thing for me is i have a somewhat difficult time understanding spoken French (And German) but i can read them both pretty well, i always say i don't have an ear for language, but i do have an eye for it haha,
I've been learning French for about 18 months and I'm in the same boat. Reading it I can piece it together but hearing it is a struggle. With Spanish--a language I've barely looked it-- I can pick up the words much better.
I speak spanish and english and now I'm learning french and yeah I have found lots of similarities with spanish and english which makes it easier for me haha
once you survived montreal french accent...i suggest you to try...few cities traveling east...till the end..you re going to have brain damages!!....mes amis de la beauce ou du lac ou paspebiac..mje vous aimes !...on s'amuses là
he didnt sound right either. i think maybe he sounds a tad german. not the loud hard german we all know. the soft deutsche you would hear from a kid. not as hard an "auch" as you see in hebrew and arabic, but it is there.
I'm Vietnamese and in my opinion, her French sounded Quebecois, but not the strongest Quebecois accent out there. I guess because she was talking to the audiences so she purposely adjusted her speed and pronunciation.
@maloking Yes - look through my channel and you'll see a documentary I made about learning salsa in Colombia last year. Since this was a casual interview with a Couchsurfer that happened to be passing through I was just wearing whatever.
@RyuPiu Very glad that's the impression given! I really prefer people to see that they can do it too rather than just sigh and think "Oh well, he's just got the language gene I guess!" Best of luck!
@lingosteve Thank you Steve. Although she didn't explicitly say it, I did specify that I (myself) found *Parisians* to be arrogant and rude. I've lived in other cities in France and found their attitude a major improvement over Parisians. Even most French will agree with this. Quebecers are indeed generally more relaxed and jovial. I'll have more interviews with non-English speakers coming up about many varied topics. Hopefully you'll come back to watch them.
Her prononciation on oui is very different from what my professor taught me.hahaha it's like u-weyhh..while I pronounce o-wi. Hahaha les différents though.
Salut Benny ! Tout d'abord, je tiens à te féliciter ! Tu parles vraiment bien français et tu parles avec une aisance surprenante ! Je sais pas pourquoi on compare toujours le français du Canada au français de France, mais chez nous ici en Belgique il y a aussi des expression différentes du français de France ! Au niveau de l'accent, le français du canada nasalise beaucoup les sons =) mais on n'a pas vraiment de difficultés à les comprendre, sauf quand il ont des mots différents genre "char"
@5Language I had black friends in both Montreal and in France - I met them through local friends, as they were locals (French speakers) themselves. I didn't see any kind of different attitudes, but of course I'm in a limited position to speak about it. Some aspects of Quebec are certainly North American and I think political correctness about races is one of them. If you're thinking about moving to either place, in this day and age I can't imagine it being a huge issue? Of course I am guessing
For those who think Québec accent is weird or incomprehensible, have a trip to China. Go to china for a couple of weeks, although Mandarin is the "official" language, Mandarin spoken in Beijing or Shanghai is hard to understand. Then compare the french language spoken in the Maritimes, Haiti or other french speaking countries and you'll get an idea. Not to mention the Spanish spoken in Spain versus Mexico or British English versus American English.
In Haiti case, they speak Creole (wich was a language based in french to communicate between the black community without the French people know what they were talking about), the same things happens in many countries, even in UK.
As a person who has been surrounded by france french for all of my life, it is incredibly hard to understand the quebec accent when hearing it for the first time
French is my first language but I'm reading the subtitles...
If you're learning French and didn't really understand the lady, it's normal. You're used to a very generic French accent. There's many French accents out there that you're going to come across, so don't give up and keep an open mind. 👍
He's totally right about how Parisians react when you don't speak French perfectly. Quebeckers were always so happy that I spoke French at all.
Being a Montrealer, I KNOW that les Québécois are master hypocrites. They HATE anything that is locally English but bend over backward to serve American tourists with 'European' charm in English ! The three other major ethnicities (English, Irish, Scottish), who developed the City of Montreal, speak English and are also European. They also contributed and continue to contribute to the Old World charm of Montreal and other regions of Quebec. This fact is conveniently overlooked by les Québécois."La joie de vie' of les Québécois is often found at the bottom of the many glasses of beer and wine that they consume on a regular basis. Their French 'distinct character' is nothing more than the American culture translated into a second-rate French copy,
I think I can explain your observation, but before I continue I want to make clear that I like both English and Quebecois languages and cultures and don't favour any one of them.
The hypocrisy you noticed could be for two reasons:
1- Many Québécois (unfortunately) still have an hatred and resentment for many English rulers from decades ago who got abusive with their power. Other english-speaking immigrants who were not descendants of abusive rulers were themselves more welcome in the province ;
2- Other Québécois might feel that long-term residents of such a french speaking and cultured province as Quebec, should really have learned french by now and are perhaps lazy or even comptemptuous. Notice that this applies to other languages aside from English.
Again, I take no sides here, I think any kind of hatred between humans should not exist, only love for each other :-)
Bob O'Brien I think it's a problem across Canada. Anglophones can be passive-agressive, Francophones can be condescending if you don't speak proper French or downright rude. I'm from New Brunswick, so I guess I'm in between. I really like it when anglophones try to speak French to me. It's rare, but it does happen from time to time. It should be encouraged. When you go south, let's say to Fredericton/Saint John, it's a different story. They hate French and they keep blaming the francophones for the bad finances of the province. I think it's unfair and they should break out of that mentality from their parents/grandparents.
This guy was the first French guy who I could understand without subtitles..... then I realised he's Irish.
French vs Quebec French seems pretty much like British and American/Canadian English. One seems more "proper" and the other seems laid back.
which one is more proper?
quebec french and france french is way further away than american english and british english. a better comparison is London english vs Geordie english
VERY TRUE!
I’ve been to Montreal and Quebec before and my experience was exactly how she described. I’m from Los Angeles but I studied French in high school and was very excited about going to a French speaking country. The people in Montreal were nice however everyone spoke English there and really only spoke French to me because I asked them to. When I went to Quebec there were more French speakers and extremely supportive and encouraging in engaging me and my limited French speaking skills. It was a very great experience.... Im going to Paris in 2 months so I’m curious to see how that experience will be because I will be bringing my limited French there too!
Omg, let us know how it goes please !
How did your French go in France? I don’t know French, but have always been curious about the language? I know there is a stigma in the US between Quebec and France, but I just think it’s all about attitude and really, just being accepting between all people. But who knows right, I could be wrong.
This comment was 4 months ago, so... How was it in Paris?? Are they really rude as rumours have it?
How was your trip ? Any noticable differences ?
Which was your experience in Paris?
I suppose Québécois sounds to me just like Texan sounds to English users.
This dude realy make efforts to speak our languadge, how cant you not respect That!?
Well done Benny, I liked the video ( and gave it a like) and was impressed with your French. Your friend has a few stereotypical views on some things but seemed really pleasant. Not all, not even most, French are arrogant and talk loud, and just as many Quebecois are arrogant and talk loud, but in general the Quebecois are more relaxed and jovial.
I'm a Moroccan, actually the reason i loved speaking english and having the inetrest of learning it was the aptitude of the english toward me when i started learn it. They always courage you even if you do mistakes they always say its fine you will learn. and here i am i can say i speak good english even thou i make mistakes but i'm still learning
Just to help you learn, I corrected your comment for you: I'm a Moroccan, the reason I love speaking English and have an interest in learning it was the attitude of English speakers towards me when I started learning. They always encourage you, even if you make mistakes and they always say it's fine you will learn. And here I am I can say that I speak English well even though I makes mistakes. But I'm still learning.
Good luck with your studies!
"I makes mistakes".
French Canadian language accent was the French accent used 300 years ago in France (only a Small minority was able to speack french on those Times) and Settlers from kingdown of France did not speak french ...
They did actually, those that did not speak french had to quickly adapt. General Montcalm documented in his memoirs that the french spoken in New France was impeccable.
As someone who has lived and worked in Montreal her whole life, I can say that I have never worked a service job that didn't require me to speak French, so I'm not exactly sure what she means by "It's hard to get served in French". English is usually the optional language, unless you're working in a touristy area, then French and English are usually required.
However, this video is a decade old, so maybe it was difficult to be served in French in Montreal in 2011.
Bilingualism is pretty typical in service jobs in Montreal (and not unusual in Ottawa-Gatineau for that matter). That said, I have run into the occasional place in Montreal that was unilingual (most often French but at times English speaking). Running into places where one language or the other was spoken but in a somewhat broken fashion is more common (but still far rarer than comfortably bilingual places).
Yes, there are still some places where you can't get decent service in French or where they'll give you the "you don't belong here" stinkeye for doing it but honestly, they are very much the exception rather than the rule (and usually run but some old jackass with an attitude problem) and they get rarer and rarer as they years go by. In my experience, most places will happily do their best to provide service in either language unless you run into a jerk with an axe to grind (on either side of the linguistic divide). Most Montrealers are pretty live and let live.
Honestly, having trouble getting served in French used to be more common in the past. I remember when getting decent service in French in half of downtown was hit or miss and it was dicey at best out in Westmount, TMR and the west island but that was back in the '80s and '90s. I was bilingual and it never phased me much but I noticed it. I've got uncles who literally got told off for asking for service in French in Montreal but this was back in the '70s (but those experience really stuck with them and fueled their politics ever since).
Sadly, all it takes is one or two bad experiences (your own or a family member) to feed one's confirmation biases. It's such a regular talking point for some politicians that people buy into it, especially folks who don't actually live in the city. A lot of the folks who I've heard complain about how hard it is to get service in certain parts of Montreal don't actually seem to go to those parts because they're convinced they won't get treated well. It can become a bit circular.
Allot of people might be surprised about what I'm about to say, but there are allot of french Canadians in ONTARIO. Especially eastern Ontario. J'en suis un!
Alexandre Lalonde This is true! I'm an American and my Mother is of Eastern Ontario French ancestry
Not surprised, I married one. There is a ton of french in Ontario... hell there is french out west too in certain places!
Im not surprised, we are so close. Same situation in New-Brunswick, Maine and Vermont. Seulement l'accent change.
Finalement quelqu'un le dit XD le premier commentaire que je vois à sujet! -p'tite franco-ontarienne (:
seul l'accent change not seulement l'accent change
C'est une vieille vidéo, mais je me permets de commenter tout de même.
Je suis français et j'adore entendre une personne dont cette langue n'est pas sa "mother tongue" et qui parle français. Je trouve ça mignon et très flatteur qu'un étranger veuille apprendre cette langue (qui est difficile). Et c'est délicat car les français semblent ne pas aimer apprendre d'autres langues et peu d'entre nous savent VRAIMENT parler anglais par exemple. C'est plus courant chez les jeunes je pense.
J'aime découvrir de nouvelles cultures et apprendre d'autres langues. J'aime aussi énormément le Québec et j'espère que tout le monde ne pense pas que TOUS les français sont fermés d'esprit.
Vive le monde ! Vive les langues ! Et vive la diversité culturelle !
Vous pourriez aussi rencontrer des Québécois fermés d'esprit, comme partout ailleurs dans le monde. Les Français que j'ai la chance de connaître sont gentils. Vive la France!
I'm very surprised to read such comments like "this guy doesn't have any French accent" ,"ça me fait mal de l'écouter parler" etc.
For me it means that people don't have any respect for those who speak languages and all time / all inputs they gave to learn a language.
I'm from Russia, I speak classical french and have never been to Canada, but I understand both of them and see nothing funny in way the guy is speaking.
If I meet smbd from abroad who speaks Russian, even making mistakes and not having a good accent in Russian, I would never laugh, I would respect this person because for me it would mean that this person did his/her best to speak my language, which is quite difficult and has nothing to do with French, German, English etc. in terms of grammar, vocabulary etc.
That's actually amazing! I had French in school for 3 years, and was so excited to go to France, but people refused to speak to me because my French wasn't really 100% and apparently they also hate english, I guess. I've been really bummed thinking I totally learned it in vain except for reading, but if there is a part of lovely Canada where people will accept my now rusty French that would make my day. À bientôt, j'espère, Québec!
This is so interesting, it's exactly the same with Spanish from Spain and Spanish from other places, if you say something slightly different than the Spanish (the people from Spain) or don't say it in a very specific way they'll look at you as if you are crazy, like, I don't understand how they can get so confused if it's not exactly in the way they're saying stuff.... Great video!!
Thank you so much for posting this video, my family comes from French Canada and I am trying to learn French and this video explains a lot of the differences between the two types of French language or dialects. Thank you so much for doing this
As someone who is currently learning French, I find myself watching this video more and more! Love this!!
I live in Montréal and I feel like no one here speaks English or French exclusively. We all combine both in casual talks. I can't remember the last time I spoke to someone who wasn't at least bilingual.
Québécois speak French with more separate sounds and pointed consonants, kind of like a Canadian English accent does with English, whereas the French speak more fluidly and continuously from one word to the next, almost combining the words and sounds.
I am a Franco-Ontarian, more specifically I am a French speaker from Sudbury, Ontario. Sometimes when I go to Québec, they mistake my Ontarian French accent for an English accent and will try to accommodate me in English. I would rather speak French, but I like to speak whichever language one wants to speak. When I went to France, the French thought that I had a Québécois accent. However, I did not want to explain the diversity of French speakers in Canada.
Je suis Franco-Ontarien, et plus spécifiquement je suis un francophone de Sudbury, Ontario. Desfois quand je visite le Québec, ils font l'erreur de penser que je suis un anglophone à cause de mon accent Ontarien, alors ils vont essaiyer de me parler en anglais. J'aime mieux parler le français, mais je vais parler la langue qu'on veut parler. Quand j'étais en France, les Français pensaient que j'avais un accent québécois. Cependant, je ne voulais pas leur expliquer la diversité des francophones au Canada!
I hear this a lot from french speakers who are from Sudbury.. I think the reason is that it sounds slightly different than the french you will hear in outaouais region and therefore they might associate it with a non native speaker. That said seriously, they bitch and moan about loss of the language and then they switch to english for someone who is speaking their language. Does that make any sense?
Your French doesn't sound really natural... I am French and no one really says ''mais je vais parler la langue qu'on veut parler''. Your sound like an English speaker rather than a French speaker
French in Quebec is turning into it's own language. Which is to be expected. Joual and franglais are the precursors. For those who don't know Joual is Quebecs' cockney English.
Yup. When you have centuries of linguistic separation languages will evolve until they become unintelligible. The only thing that prevents this is contemporary telecommunications. For example, if we were to cease contact with England for 500 years, we would likely have lost the ability to communicate when we reestablished it.
In Europe is called "verlans", in Canada is "joual", I find those differences fascinating, hahaha.
Hey everyone! There is a mistake in the video, where we don't mention that in Nouveau Brunswick they speak French too. If you want to comment on that, please reply to this comment rather than starting a new one. Thank you!
There are pockets of French Canadians all through Canada not just in New Brunswick & Quebec. Northern Ontario & South Eastern Ontario have a lot of people there who speak French.
True that! I remember crossing the border from Quebec to Ontario and thinking (this was back when I knew much less French than I know now) that we were in the clear, language-wise. Not so. For the first several stops, the default language was still French.
And the Michif tribe have their own creole; but many also speak a French that sounds a lot like the maritime dialect.
You are correct. I'm a French speaker from Northern Ontario (Sudbury) and I now live in Southeastern Ontario (Ottawa). I grew up in a French speaking community and I went to French school. While English is the main language, it's pretty easy to speak French to a lot of people within our communities.
Ha ha... 10:40. Most memorable interaction living in Quebec city and going to U Laval in 1993 for a summer to learn French.
Going to the Metro (supermarket) in the suburb of Ste Foy and not being able to find butter in the dairy section. Asking and pronouncing "beurre" the way I learned it in Ontario and getting a blank stare. I had an 'oh shit' moment. Fortunately, had a teacher way back when who use jingles and commercials that were memorable. Recounted "Le beurre est meilleure que le margarin..."
Store staff had a light on go above their head. "Ahhh... du barrrr... c'est dans la congelatarrrr... l'aisle numero..."
This video is a little critical of Parisians, and unfairly groups them together with the French in general. Other French speakers are not represented by Parisians, and in Paris there are many exceptions with extremely friendly people. Like this comment or reply to it if you agree, rather than starting a new thread please ;)
For more info on my thoughts about getting along with Parisians, please read this blog article, where I say how maybe visitors to Paris, rather than the Parisians themselves, may be the closed minded ones: www.fluentin3months.com/closed-minded/
Olá Benny! A genevieve tem algum canal no youtube?Obrigado
I'm québecois, and I assure you that there IS a difference in attitude...
Meh, everyone in France shits on Parisians too. They're probably used to it now.
ha thank you !!! Yes people from paris are not the same as the rest of france. Il y a paris et la province sniff !! And yes i have friends from Paris and they are normal. But it's true that in cities like Paris or Lyon it is "assez bourgeois" and it can seem unfriendly. I've never been to Québec but would like to visit it, it seems so nice !!
Dernièrement, j'ai remarqué qu' à Montréal, l'accent commence à se distancier du typique accent québécois (ou autrement dit le jouale). En fait, ça commence à sonner comme un français sans accent particulier. On mélange même les slangs d'origine créole, certains termes typiquement français et des expressions pûrement américaines. C'est très particulier.
I can imagine that Quebec French accents compared to “original” French can be compared the same way as British English and North American English
yeah exactly, or i’d say like irish english and north american english. we are saying the same things and can understand each other but different choices of words, expressions, the accent difference can be v prominent with some sentences and you have to ask for it to be said again just to be like OHHH
Pretty much. Quebec French and other Canadian (and American) French dialects sound quite different in terms of phonology (it's basically 17th-18th century northern French that evolved apart from Europe after 1760). European French underwent some pretty significant phonetic changes after the French Revolution and as France created and imposed standard French during the 19th and 20th centuries and the French spoken in Canada, New England and Louisiana did experience those changes so it kind of sounds archaic to Europeans. Our R's sound like they're out of the 1700s, our nasal vowels don't sound "modern" (like how the speaker in the video compared the different pronunciation of "beurre") and we pronounce T's and D's with affrication when they precede most I's and U's (producing what sounds like a Ts and Dz sound to a European - meanwhile their T's and D's sound unnaturally clipped to our ears).
Formal written Canadian French is closer to European French than American English is to British English. It's more like Canadian English to British English in terms of writing. The big differences tend to show up in informal speech and writing (like texting and other informal writing). Given that we're the French speaking world's equivalent to Australians (stereotyped as cheerful, loud and informal), the French get hung up on our informal speech registers a fair bit.
i know im late but i find this interesting because im also from montreal and ive found that it is impossible to get any sort of job if you do not speak french
La France ne se limite pas à Paris. Pour apprendre le français, allez dans d'autres régions, on vous accueillera correctement. Même pour nous, provinciaux, les parisiens ont l'étiquette "pédants et/ou désagréables". Il doit y avoir un fond de vérité.
;)
This is like a British person talking to a Canadian or American.
That's the difference in the accent.
The difference in accent between French and quebecois is a lot larger
I have heard and seen from different friends that native French and English speakers (not all people) don't like it when you're not a native and don't speak their language well. Something really opposite and great happens in Spanish countries such as all Latinamerica, we're proud to be latin and we love to see foreigners to learn our culture, but we don't offend or get mad just because someone doesn't speak Spanish fluently. We actually love to help people to understand and also have a good time. At least here in Colombia.
It wouldn't make any sense to hate a person that's trying to learn another language
You're Latin decent but not Latin. Latins are from Europe and you're Latino
I am from the untied states and have learned French in high school. I have visited Montreal every single weekend for the past year and it is still easier for me to understand a French speaker from France than from Quebec. Lately I've been trying to put my foot down more and only speak French in Montreal and see where it takes me.
One of the most interesting sings of protection of language in Quebec is the way they call KFC: PFK
Pour moi l'accent québécois est plus difficile de comprendre mais je l'aime por la meme raison. Il faut pratiquer avec les deux accents (de la France aussi) et tous les autres. Je comprends meilleur le video maintenant. Merci à vous deux.
Little correction (I'm from Quebec). Quebec is officially a unilingual province (French) even if there are a lot of English speakers. New-Brunswick is the only bilingual province, with a majority of English speakers!
I once had a very civilized conversation with a Sports Writer from Montreal. As a Sports Writer myself and being fluent in French, I found this amazing. We spoke in French and despite every now and then when he didn't understand each other, we simply changed to English. We avoided conflicts. We understood that we'd both run into confusion because of the variations of the language, as well as the accent, vocabulary, etc. It was mutual respect.
The problem is that you don't speak about french attitude, but about the attitude of the people of Paris, which is Soooooooooo different that the other inhabitants of France.
Congratulations, you've got a very good french accent.
Il faut faire la différence entre une certaine "attitude Parisienne "(sans généraliser à tous les Parisiens bien sûr) et le reste de la France. Les Français dans leur ensemble ne sont pas forcément plus hautains que les ressortissents d'autres pays. C'est cette "mentalité parisienne" qui donne une mauvaise image de la France. D'ailleurs chose intéressante à savoir les "Parisiens" ont parfois tendance à prendre le reste de la France de haut .... Donc nous autres français non parisiens nous sommes pris de hauts par les "Parisiens" et en plus on subit les critiques des étrangers qui nous assimilent à eux. Donc Paris est une ville magnifique à connaître quand on vient en France mais ce n'est pas une ville tout à fait représentative de l'ensemble de la France au niveau des mentalités bien qu'elle ait une certaine influence sur le reste du pays. Par ailleurs il y'a plein d'autres coins et villes magnifiques à connaître en France où les gens sont restés certainement plus accueillants et chaleureux.
Les Français que je connais sont vraiment sympathiques.
I think it’s true that French speakers are picky because at my school, one of our French teachers are from Canada, and most of the French students say that her French is terrible.
These students lack openmindedness. It's like saying if you don't speak British English then you don't speak English. That's quite ethnocentric
She probably didn't live in the french part of Canada like Quebec in Nouveau Brunswick she probably lived in Ontario and took a few french classes and thought she was better then she actually was
Im Canadian and that is the same even in our country. The French are VERY picky about the language and it often discourages others from learning.
thats because the french are pretentious. more so than the british. the french had a napoleon. the french helped build the free world. us. and they only did it to fuck over england. after ww2 the were they only country to literally pay us back. they earned the right to feel the way they do. my country is why the brits cant say the sun never sets on the british empire. for that you cant put a price on it. look at it this way. they have so little. so throw them a bone every once in a while.
there was also a law that made parisian french the standard. so there are no dialects. french today as spoken in france is basically the same as 100 years ago. they aim to preserve. and i can appreciate that.
Wow that's interesting
Is there an accurate French transcript for this? Google's auto-generated subs is completely slaughtered by her accent.
Une chose qu'on prononce un peu différemment en Francais Quebecois c'est le genre de S, ou Z prononcé après les D, ou les T parfois.
*One thing that we pronounce a bit differently in Quebec french is a kind of S, or Z right after D's or T's sometimes. Example with the simple phrase: "We say this, or that."*
France: On DIT ceci, ou cela.
Québec: On dit (DZI) ceci, ou celA (avec le dernier a plus grave, comme expliqué dans le video) (*with the last A pronounced deeper, as explained in the video*)
La répétition de certains pronoms pour amplifier le pouvoir d'une phrase étais quelque chose de présent en Francais archaique, et on peux en retrouver des reliques dans le Francais Québécois parfois également.
*The repetition of certain pronouns was used in archaic French to amplify a sentence's meaning, and you can find relics of that in nowaday Quebec French sometimes as well. Example with the simple phrase: "You really want that?"*
France: Tu veux vraiment ça?
Québec: Tu (TSU) veux-tu (TSU) vraiment ça?
C'est tout ce qu'il me viens en tête pour l'instant... il y a évidemment beaucoup plus de légères nuances, mais ça ajoute au vidéo, je pense. :-)
*That's all that comes to mind for now... there's of course a lot of slighter nuances, but it adds to the video, I think. :-)*
One minute in, the Quebecoise calls the French pretentious... Good job.
Parce que ça sont!
LOII it's true...
EN: french people = pretentious.
Quebec people = Grumpy.
Try to prononce that :
Fr: Les français sont arrogants, mais
Nous les Québécois sommes très râleur.
Now try to prononce the same thing but in Quebecer version :
"Lé français sont'arrogants pis nous autres lé Québécois on es chialeux en criss."
XDD
my French friend laughs at my attempts to communicate in his language ... he says in his family, someone who spoke that way would be called un petit negre or une vache Espagnole ... French is the most beautiful language in the world when spoken beautifully ... I have rarely found the French to be snooty to me because they seem to just get it that I love their country and so I don't say much and just listen and look and smile all the time ... J'espère y retourner un jour, peut-être l'année prochaine ... sinon j'y vivrai dans mes souvenirs
I have to tell my sad story. I live in Quebec since last year and I've been studying/learning french by myself at home and I think we all agree it's easier to find tutorials or information in french but in french from France and okay everything was good till I had to practice with local people and omg! I can not get almost anything of what they say. In my humble opinion I considerer French from Quebec is harder :(
Je te recommande d'utiliser des applications pour trouver quelqu'un avec qui faire un échange linguistique (tu leur enseigne l'anglais ou l'espagnol et ils t'enseignent le québécois). Ainsi j'ai trouvé beaucoup de gens avec qui pratiquer, particulièrement sur "Speaky". Bonne chance!
It's true. The slang of Quebec French really needs to be what Canadians are taught when taught French because otherwise, the slang just sounds like ducks quacking. I'm from Montreal so I can make out most of it but it changes so fast that after living in Ontario for so long, I sometimes stumble to understand it now.
Understood it’s because you are learning two different dialects. You’re learning standard French and experiencing quebecois so that’s where your opinion becomes bias. If you learn French to at least an intermediate level you’ll be able to get around quebecois
It’s just an accent thing Quebecois have
Maybe not harder, but no ressources available
As a french learn ATM I really appreciate videos such as these. Thanks Benny
Happy to help!
I started learning French 2 years ago from the French, and I can say the French are perfectionists. Tbh there are so many accents it doesn't matter if it's the French way or not, there is the African accent, Lebanese accent, the German, Swiss, Belgian, Canadian accent etc. It's interesting seeing so many accents.
well i have question bro can understand them all !? if you cant so so how many of them can understand !? cause i wanna learn French but i dont know how its exactly im confused about these accents...
@@xv9797 Hi! Frenchie from Montréal here. Here's what you need to know about the Québécois accent: it's not so much the accent that's the problem, it's the slang and contractions that we use. All of us here learn how to speak with proper grammar and stuff, but, as every language does, we have our own slang and contractions we use amongst ourselves. If you want to learn French, go for it! If you're planning on going to Québec though, just be aware that you might not understand the conversations you hear around in the streets. But if you're struggling to understand, you can ask us to speak slower and you should be fine hahaha, good luck!
very interesting video. I do wish that there was less background noise, it made it very difficult to understand, especially when she was speaking.
Bonjour Mon Amis de Nouvelle Orleans , Louisienne . USA
Je suis québécoise et je remarque que la fille se force énormément pour bien prononcer pour se faire comprendre ! Imaginez! xD La preuve qu'on est incompréhensible au naturel si on ne fait pas d'effort! XD
bah dommage! j'ira a l'université en Montréal cet été (je suis américaine) et j'ai appris le français de France. J'espère que je sera able du comprendre mais maintenant je suis pas trop sûre :0
@@liverin8514 tu vas t'y habitué, mais en général une fois que les personnes comprennent que le français n'est pas ta première langue, ils vont soit essayer de parler un "meilleur" français (sans le slang quebecois) ou sinon ils vont être courtois et communiquer en anglais
From the background I knew they were in Amsterdam
They also speak French in Ontario (Quebecois French and Ontario French) there are enclaves in Ontario where they dominate over English. I live in a bilingual Municipality, all services are provided in French and English. They do answer the phone in French first here when you need to talk to any city or municipal service that you need. Also there French language schools all over the area. I don't know why they complain so much in Montreal as they bend over backwards for the Francophone community in Ontario. The provincial level here in Ontario is completely bilingual where it is not in Quebec. Quebecois is the sole language of Quebec.
En Louisiane, on dit "les anglais ou les américains" pour les autres qui parlent pas le français. Spécialement le monde qui vient d'un autre état comme le texas.
Encore aujourd’hui?!
Au Canada, "les anglais" c'est les canadiens anglophones. "Les anglais d'Angleterre" c'est les anglais dans le sens que les français utilisent le mot "anglais" (les gens qui viennent d'Angleterre).
Les parisiens ne sont pas représentatif de toute la France quand au réaction si tu ne parle pas correctement français
I wonder if French wasn't shunned in Louisiana during the 1920s how different the state and culture would be.
Je veux pas imaginer, louisiane peut rester comme maintenant. evite.
I don't understand French just a little bit for how close it's to Spanish and few words I know and I understood him more than her
Lokino Monloki French isnt close to spanish,
Im portuguese and Id say so myself too. His pronounciation was a lot clearer to me even though I literally just came back from a trip to Montreal a couple weeks ago and I really had to come here and find out what the heck were those people speaking because even though I don't speak french, it didn't sound like french to me. lol
Quebec French is harder to understand
Quebec formal French is identical to french spoke in france but the informal is harder to understand
@@fireleaf2937 To be fair, while the formal French is identical (aside from minor vocabulary differences) even the formal registers of the spoken accent do still have the typical characteristics of a New World French accent. The nasal vowels are shifted (or more accurately, Europe experienced a vowel shift that North America did not), the R is normally rolled rather than trilled, affrication of the T's and D's occurs after most I's and U's (the Ts and Dz sounds rather than clipped T and D - clipped T's and D's sound weird in a North American French accent) and overall the language is spoken further back in the mouth (more mid-mouth rather than front-of-the-mouth, with throaty sounds coming from deeper in the throat). Basically, it's an older sounding phonology and you hear it from Quebec to Louisiana so it seems to have gelled sometime around the 18th century and mostly stayed consistent since (while Europe changed a lot in the 19th and early 20th centuries). It's perfectly good French but it is a different accent. It can strike folks unfamiliar with it as unusual, much like a Scottish English accent can.
Benny, Quebec and New Brunswick aren't the only French places. Ontario is very French as are some western cities. New Brunswick is the only bilingual province.
And Québec is the only offficial french speaking province.
c'est vrai
Québec is bilingual... there is a lot of british's whore (canadian) in here
Ontario is very french ? Other than kapuskasing, where else are there majority franchophones ?
Funny part is down here we need french to graduate hs...like its mandatory for anglophones to speak french but francophones dont need to learn how to speak english...so much for us being the only bilingual province
Are you kidding me? You can easily get a job in Montreal without speaking much English. If your English you can have a hard time getting a job unless your level or French is good!
Julian French is more common in Montreal but a lot of people do speak English since it's kinda a second language
Julian ohhh my friend...i work in montreal...close to the st laurent street...let me say this...i better know little english ...of not....beyyer go far east side of island
Best example is France French is Like English in England
Quebec French is like English in Jamaica
Merci beaucoup pour la video.
Très intéressant l'information et la culture du Québec :)
It’s the fourth time I am watching this video, the 1st/2nd time was 3 years ago so my French was not as good as now… And this time, I finally hear a sentence in which is not subtitled: at ~9:25 she said “…justement pour protéger le français dans notre même province, ‘qui euh reste en province jusqu’à maintenant.’” The quotation part is not subtitled and translated as ‘which (Québec) is still a province until now’.
It just makes me laugh so hard hahaha (cuz I didn’t notice that at the first time) XD
Do you have any tips on improving the ability to speak French or being able to speak it more fluently? :)
Even though it still is a province
from an outside perspective, quebec french sounds more fun
true but euro french is more beautiful imo
From an insider it sounds like London English to a UK RP accent although it is more colourful its also less eloquent. This girl here is your typical separatist working class Quebecer. The upper class speak a much more pure French and is very much closer to a French from EU. They are also less aggressive towards non french speaking Canadians. Much less us vs them attitude.
@@dysonia9437 how?? they sound like if they’re choking on a piece of bread
I agree. I prefer Quebec french but that is just my opinion please don’t slaughter me
sure if you're a farm animal
She says that they welcome anyone who wants to learn their dialect, but then why is ther such a lack of resources on how to learn the dialect. No online courses, books on it are rare, and it seems even harder for me to find information on it in English. It seems more info is directed towards French people learning Quebecois
Ne pas confondre parisiens et français les gars, je suis du nord de la france pas de paris 😂
I live in Plattsburgh NY which is right near Quebec. We get a ton of Quebecois who come down here and I head up to Montreal a few times a year and I have to say I've been fascinated by their language since I was a kid. I actually prefer the sound of it over Parisian French. I've picked up some stuff but I would love to be able to speak Quebecois French fluently.
I love how this conversation happened in Amsterdam.
Yep! In my travels, I made sure to maintain my languages. She was my Couchsurfer, helping me maintain my French, while I was actually learning Dutch :D :D
C'est une bonne vidéo. Au debout, c’était difficile de la comprendre mais après quelques minutes, j'ai reussi
Kemmy Em moi je suis québécois et defois a ma job y a des français et il me demande ou est la wi fi pour moi ses linternet la wifi
Le bruit de la circulation rend la compréhension difficile, surtout si on n'est pas familier avec la prononciation Québécoise...
2:24 faux. Le nouveau Brunswick est également bilingue, la partie francophone y est appelée l'Acadie.
Vous êtes maintenant 29 pourcent de Francophone qui parlent Français à la maison 49 pourcent en 1970 vous êtes en phase d'assimilation Anglo totale d'ici 2050 malheureusement
Yeah that's often forgotten, only major difference is Quebec is mostly french with little english spoken outside of urban Montreal, while New Brunswick is still majority English with Francophones in the minority, though still an official language especially for Federal Services and the like.
Every sentence spoken in French is like poetry to my ears.
Me too...
0:12 someone call the police, this man just teleported on camera
I speak French a bit, but when I search most jobs in Quebec so if you're an English speaker then it's the same for French speakers it's even required to be bilingual
Bel video!!!
Non vedo l'ora di trasferirmi da voi!!!
Un saluto dalla svizzera italiana!!!
😉😉😉
Merci Benny, pour cet entretien intéressant. Je viens de rentrer d’un stage de français à UQTR où ils nous ont dit les mêmes chose que vous par rapport aux différences entre les deux façons de s’exprimer. Je parle le français Louisianais, alors nous avons un accent beaucoup plus proche de l’accent québécois.
What a great conversation to learn from. Thanks for the lesson. I am sugondese but understand both regular french and quebecian french.
I am English, love France & Canada & wish I knew more of Quebec.
This vlog is fascinating, brilliant & I wish I could be fostered for 5 years, so I could get a real good feel & experience of being with Quebecians.
Merci beaucoup 🤗
@mediaevalautumn Glad you feel I'm that comfortable with it :) Actually I'd be much more confident in Spanish and Portuguese in comparison, as you'll see in later videos! ;) This is only the first in a series of unscripted interviews I'll be doing in all my languages.
Still very funny to see both of them come over all the way to The Netherlands, to sit down at a nice pub to discuss... french. Je n'ai jamais su qu'on avait besoin du terrain neutre pour ça.. ;)
im always surprised that more ppl dont know french, yes the language can be a little daunting at first,but if you know English for me i can see the common root in a lot of words, this atually goes for German as well, ie short words-German, long words- French in the English language. Funny thing for me is i have a somewhat difficult time understanding spoken French (And German) but i can read them both pretty well, i always say i don't have an ear for language, but i do have an eye for it haha,
Why would you expect more people to know French? English is the modern-day lingua-franca and is far easier for a non-native speaker to learn.
Explore music and cinema. Eventually your ear will get used to it.
I've been learning French for about 18 months and I'm in the same boat. Reading it I can piece it together but hearing it is a struggle. With Spanish--a language I've barely looked it-- I can pick up the words much better.
I speak spanish and english and now I'm learning french and yeah I have found lots of similarities with spanish and english which makes it easier for me haha
I like canadian french it is so soft! 😍
french in france: perfume commericial.
french not in france: dumpster fire.
jackie chan what even meme pic goes here.
once you survived montreal french accent...i suggest you to try...few cities traveling east...till the end..you re going to have brain damages!!....mes amis de la beauce ou du lac ou paspebiac..mje vous aimes !...on s'amuses là
I’m from Belgium, we speak Dutch and French. This is the weirdest French I’ve ever heard lol
Mon francais n'est pas tres bon, mais j'ai apprecie la video.
Her French sounded Vietnamese
It mostly sounded Québécois, not Vietnamese XD
he didnt sound right either. i think maybe he sounds a tad german. not the loud hard german we all know. the soft deutsche you would hear from a kid. not as hard an "auch" as you see in hebrew and arabic, but it is there.
I'm Vietnamese and in my opinion, her French sounded Quebecois, but not the strongest Quebecois accent out there. I guess because she was talking to the audiences so she purposely adjusted her speed and pronunciation.
I quite agree. She sounds really like a “farmer” or an “islander” compared to Metropolitan French. A lot of French Vietnamese speak kind of like this.
@maloking Yes - look through my channel and you'll see a documentary I made about learning salsa in Colombia last year. Since this was a casual interview with a Couchsurfer that happened to be passing through I was just wearing whatever.
"If you rest in your own little world; you can't improve" I love that. Thanks for making this video!
@RyuPiu Very glad that's the impression given! I really prefer people to see that they can do it too rather than just sigh and think "Oh well, he's just got the language gene I guess!"
Best of luck!
@lingosteve Thank you Steve.
Although she didn't explicitly say it, I did specify that I (myself) found *Parisians* to be arrogant and rude. I've lived in other cities in France and found their attitude a major improvement over Parisians. Even most French will agree with this.
Quebecers are indeed generally more relaxed and jovial.
I'll have more interviews with non-English speakers coming up about many varied topics. Hopefully you'll come back to watch them.
Her prononciation on oui is very different from what my professor taught me.hahaha it's like u-weyhh..while I pronounce o-wi. Hahaha les différents though.
French Quebec sounds like when danish people speak French ^^
French: Vocabulaire
Canadian: vocabulARRR
No. Québec French just have more diphtongs just like Portuguese.
I can’t agree more! When I learned French, I always said “vo-ca-bu-laire”, but the lady says something like “vo-ca-bu-laah”
To speak either variant of French you must say "egh" every 3rd word.
Salut Benny ! Tout d'abord, je tiens à te féliciter ! Tu parles vraiment bien français et tu parles avec une aisance surprenante ! Je sais pas pourquoi on compare toujours le français du Canada au français de France, mais chez nous ici en Belgique il y a aussi des expression différentes du français de France ! Au niveau de l'accent, le français du canada nasalise beaucoup les sons =) mais on n'a pas vraiment de difficultés à les comprendre, sauf quand il ont des mots différents genre "char"
new brunswick is the only bilingual province (but montreal is the biggest bilingual city)
And the two solitudes English/French still have their language problems in New Brunswick in 2017. It is not paradise there.
Farquharson Montreal is officially UNILINGUAL (french) get your facts right.
Farquharson exactly. I'm a Proud New Brunswicker from a bilingual family.
Is the French in New Brunswick the same as in Quebec?
Even Google doesn't have a clue in which language she speaks because the automatic subtitles are totally wrong when i want to read it in French
@ShelDeF Well spotted! Important correction - thanks for bringing it up!
@5Language I had black friends in both Montreal and in France - I met them through local friends, as they were locals (French speakers) themselves. I didn't see any kind of different attitudes, but of course I'm in a limited position to speak about it. Some aspects of Quebec are certainly North American and I think political correctness about races is one of them.
If you're thinking about moving to either place, in this day and age I can't imagine it being a huge issue? Of course I am guessing
For those who think Québec accent is weird or incomprehensible, have a trip to China. Go to china for a couple of weeks, although Mandarin is the "official" language, Mandarin spoken in Beijing or Shanghai is hard to understand. Then compare the french language spoken in the Maritimes, Haiti or other french speaking countries and you'll get an idea. Not to mention the Spanish spoken in Spain versus Mexico or British English versus American English.
In Haiti case, they speak Creole (wich was a language based in french to communicate between the black community without the French people know what they were talking about), the same things happens in many countries, even in UK.
Queasy Quokka haha 😂
As a person who has been surrounded by france french for all of my life, it is incredibly hard to understand the quebec accent when hearing it for the first time
It's harder for me too, and I've lived in Quebec my whole life. France french is so much easier to understand.
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