I've had to go into an argument on why cosmetic brands cannot make therapeutic claims and how cosmetics are regulated differently from medicine. Marketing words such as 'healing' makes me want to ask for clinical evidence and independent studies.
People have an obsession in looking 20-30 years younger and honestly ageing is so complex and wholistic that it is impossible. That does not mean you cannot look great in your 50s and 60s, I have seen people who really aged well. However, they do not look 20 (as a side note, not all 20yo look good)
I think the human eye/brain is also really good at telling when things don't fit the usual pattern. So you can have that erbium laser and get baby bottom skin if it you makes you feel better - but people you meet will be able to tell something's unusual and perhaps your face doesn't match your body or your skin surface doesn't match your skin laxity. We can do what makes us feel good but shouldn't expect it to be undetectable or to look completely 'natural'. Ageing is what looks natural.
Yeah, I like watching British TV shows because they actually hire unattractive actors and have them wear the same clothes more than once. After you've watched them for a bit you realize the unattractive actors aren't detracting from the enjoyment of the story at all. Whereas in Hollywood, everyone's got to be young, thin, put-together, and gorgeous regardless of the role. Like, an Agatha Christie Poirot movie made in Hollywood will have a hot, young Poirot, when he's supposed to be aging and short, with an egg-shaped head and a mustache that makes English people laugh at him.
@@SchlichteToven You're confusing 'unattractive' with un-enhanced / everyday *normal.* '𝐴𝑓𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑦𝑜𝑢'𝑣𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎 𝑏𝑖𝑡 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑧𝑒.. - it's an adjustment for you rather than straight forward? It could also be the genre tho'; Hollywood films are notoriously shallow but many US sitcoms /comedies have everyday looking people (Roseanne, My Name is Earl etc - tho' not Friends!)- while some British TV shows have only the airbrushed & young, especially these days; I can't watch them as I have facial recognition issues & everyone looks so similar that it confuses me! :/
@@beebs9979 Whether they can tell or not that something's unusual, smooth skin still looks far better! & tweaks genuinely *can* be undetectable, but it's hard not to cross the line & tip the balance into odd, as you see the great results & want more & a bad practitioner will encourage it. Sometimes you can tell with necks & hands not matching a youthed-up face? I always kept out've the sun, so mine have aged far slower, compared to people my age who expect my skin to look like theirs, same people that used to laugh at my dislike of sun-bathing & obsession with SPF.. 😊
I always wonder how these clean beauty people live their whole life so pure. I mean if they worry about toxins in beauty how do they venture outside. It's all about measures and risks surely. Sure I could put nothing on my skin and hair, but I'd get burnt and feel like a mess then my esteem would probably suffer. So pass the chemicals thanks.
One thing these clean beauty purveyors forget to consider is the very air they breathe. There are more carcinogens in the surrounding air if they lived in a city with gasoline-powered vehicles than a well-regulated ingredient in their skincare.
Idk about skincare youtubers but a lot of "clean, chemical free" type lifestyle and health youtubers have had plastic surgery. Like really, you're going to tell me something is bad because it's "unnatual" with silicone bags in your body? Also beauty youtubers that talk about "non toxic" and then go get botox 🤣
The human brain is terrible when it comes to risk. The car ride to the airport is way more dangerous then the plane flight will ever be, yet people are way more scared of planes then cars because plane crashes are hyped up on the news way more then car crashes. The same applies to "chemicals", clean beauty fanatics are only scared about the chemicals they have been told about and are ignorant about all the rest, hence the hypocrisy you are seeing.
when you said sunscreen costs $2 by you my jaw DROPPED! even the cheapest sunscreens by me are around $10-12 and range from greasy to irritating and are very rarely spf 50 :(
Maybe it's subsidized. If it's 2 Australian dollars, that's 1.23 EUR, which won't even buy a bottle of travel size basic body sunscreen where I live. 200 ml of cheap brand 30 SPF will cost you 8 euros here and although it will work just fine, it won't be very elegant and I wouldn't put it on my face unless it was all I had and I was doing yard work where no one could see me.
I don't think it's subsidised - aside from maybe the Cancer Council. Hamilton, Cancer Council, and ego are ~AU$5 to $10/50 mL, for their basic sunscreens, supermarkets' own brands are even cheaper, and heaps of people use them every day, multiple applications per day. I think it might be a cultural expectation: it's a basic necessity, like toilet paper, so there has to be an acceptable cheap option!
I hear you on anything that requires a “regular” appointment to maintain. Gel nails taught me that I don’t care enough about my nails looking good to keep it up. That philosophy has basically generalized to the rest of my life 😏
The things that require regular appointments and maintenance really do rob us of our money and I think it's worth us weighing up those cost benefits! I've had my fingernails painted with Shellac once. Years ago. I leave them bare and keep them neat. I paint my own toenails in the warmer months - if you buy good polishes and use a topcoat like seche vite, they look pretty pro. I'd prefer to pay my mortgage than a salon 😄
Part of why I started taking care of my natural nails is because I would rarely go through the effort of keeping up appointments. But I love the look of long nails so I learned how to maintain my natural nails. I've had them for about 6 years now so the maintenance is just routine at this point lol.
Same here, the last time I was at a hairdresser was in 2008. I've learned how to take care of myself, whenever I feel like it. Saves a lot of time and money too.
I feel like people who think skincare doesn’t do anything/is frivolous aren’t thinking about folks with acne. Acne can be uncomfortable - even painful - and there’s a lot of stigma around having visible acne/pimples. Obviously acne isn’t the only reason to have a skincare routine, but for me it’s the big reason I care about it
I have rosacea, plus my skin is very dry naturally. Besides the stigma of visible skin "defects" (ugh), it's also more comfortable for me if I moisturise
For me, having acne as a teenager was part of what made skincare seem useless. It felt like everything I did either made the problem worse, or did nothing at all. The money I'd wasted on products was adding insult to injury. So yeah, I understand where you're coming from, but I also think I developed that exact attitude from a place of powerlessness.
I'm so glad you mentioned you have ADHD since I don't really associate people who went to James Ruse and then pursued a PhD struggling with that sort of thing. It's so inspiring to me, and a reminder that I need to stop getting so distracted!!
And she only got diagnosed within the last year or so! As far as I'm concerned, anyone who manages to complete one let alone MULTIPLE degrees with untreated adhd is a superhero
@@billyt8868 i don't think this is insulting personally. i get what you mean but the public perception of adhd is still very much 'constantly distracted, unable to focus on anything' -- for me its just cool to see people who have actually really excelled academically be open about also having adhd, because hopefully it will alter the public perception a little :)
Yea as someone with severe adhd and having a huge struggle with doing school, I always wonder how these people are diagnosed, probably because I'm a bit bitter over that a bit. I just wonder how they end up being on the adhd spectrum because the symptoms of adhd are all also on the spectrum of normal people, so I prefer to only call it adhd when people actually have issues with these symptoms that prevent them from living a normal life off medication. Maybe I just developed a gatekeeper mindset because people are dismissive of the existence of adhd in the first place, but I guess what I wonder more is, why did she get a diagnosis? Because here on youtube on the surface she seems like a great organized and smart person. Were there any issues that made her start questioning if she is maybe struggling with something... We after all don't see behind the image these youtubers present to us.
Hi Michelle as someone with both rosacea and eczema I miss parabens!!!! I had a lot less reactions to products with parabens than some of the newer preservatives used (looking at you the itchy m's). It seems like everything is "paraben free" now and those of us with impaired barriers are having a tougher time of it. The so called non essential steps in a skincare routine feel really essential to me. I have extremely dry skin that's always also really dehydrated (it doesn't matter how much liquid I consume btw). Having both the rosacea and eczema means my barrier is permanently impaired and I lose water out of the skin incredibly easily - no matter how occlusive my moisturiser is. Replacing that hydration is so much easier and cheaper (150ml plus bottles of toner versus a 30ml serum or 50ml moisturiser) by using toners, mists or essences in layers first and then sealing that hydration in with thicker textures/more occlusive products. My skin soaks in those layers quickly and they make it feel quenched (albeit sometimes more temporarily than I would like) - this makes it feel more comfortable as dry/cracked/irritated skin is really uncomfortable. I can't get that feeling from a few drops of serum on damp skin, or from just a moisturiser on damp skin. I think if you have oily skin you probably don't need all that extra moisture, so the people advocating not using these things don't have the extreme dryness to deal with that I do. I also think environment plays a huge role in this - many of those advocating for not using them live in humid climates where they are always going to have less need for layers of moisture. I can only comment from my perspective of having the skin I have and living where I live, but for me layers of hydrating/moisturising products are extremely helpful and they are an essential for me. Best wishes.
My skin sounds exactly the same. I never considered that I could have a year round impaired barrier. I kept thinking I must be irritating my skin some unknown way, and was just constantly damaging it lol It's interesting what products cause sensitivity and which don't. Dermatologists always push Cerave as being gentle and non-irritating, but it burns the crap out of my face!
The biggest issue I've found with getting people in my life to wear sunscreen is the way it feels. As someone who also lives in Australia, applying the correct amount of sunscreen and reapplying is so important to me. I can't bring myself to liberally apply and reapply a cosmetically elegant 75ml tube of sunscreen that cost any more than $18. I just don't have that kind of money.
I love the idea of doing more studies giving people a variety of opportunities to access spf. Free is not always the answer. Having dispensers in strategic locations would definitely help. I think in certain places it could be “complimentary” and others could be a minimal fee. I think the pain points are throwing products away without finishing the bottle, spending too much money on one bottle, & forgetting said bottle altogether. Maybe incentivizing finishing the bottle before the expiration date? Thanks for sharing and answering questions.
It’s highly unlikely that parabens were taken out of products to make them go bad faster. Most people dont throw products away because they’ve “gone bad” and will keep products for months or years past their expiration date. Clean beauty marketing seems like a much more plausible explanation.
Yeah, my reptile brain is pretty resistant to what they call "clean beauty." Clean beauty isn't so clean or beautiful when you break out in a rash from something touted as natural.
On the other hand, when you have all product that have an expiry dates, people accuse you of making an expiry to sell more because they have to theow out their products.
I'm always down to listening to a rant by you 😅 I know it's awful that some of the skincare public and brands make you this angry. But thanks for combating information and educating us in skincare science :)
@DavidCruickshank You wouldn't get much of an anti-inflammatory effect with cosmetic products, so no, it's not worth pursuing. Anti-inflammation is what happens when you take acetaminophen or ibuprofen after an injury or when you rub voltaren gel on a sore muscle. The science behind it is too long for a comment section.
Thank you for having proper subtitles on this video! And for putting all the text etc up top so it doesn't fight with the subtitles. I really appreciate it. 💘
Totally agree, when I was younger I only used sunscreen when hiking or at the beach. Now that I have a bit more coin in my pocket I will wear it whenever the sun is up! The hard thing is to fine one even the chemical ones that don't pill, dry quickly and are not shiny.
About sunscreens - I think many would wear them daily even if they weren't free, just if they looked good, especially on dark, oily, textured or acne-prone skin. I struggle to follow the 2mg/cm³ rule because no sunscreen looks good with that amount - even expensive ones. I'm not a specialist so I don't know why this particular amount is the industry standard for getting the labeled SPF, but it's really a lot! Also I can't find a convenient reapplication method: even on bare skin reapplication clogs my pores (oily and acne-prone skin, ugh) because I can't properly cleanse beforehand, and when I wear makeup it's nearly impossible to reapply, especially on the eyes. I want to protect my health, but not at the cost of my favorite self-expression medium.
Not just appearance, a ton of people cannot deal with the greasy, sticky feeling and that odd smell that sunscreens tend to have. It's very overwhelming to have hair sticking to your face and slippery or sticky knee pits and elbow pits.
I keep a sharpie and dry erase marker on my bathroom counter. I sharpie the date I opened the product on the bottom, and use the dry erase to write things like my AM/PM routine, order of products, the last time I used retinol so I don’t forget and use it two days in a row, etc.
I've tried the sharpie thing but usually end up smearing the label over the course of handling the bottle so many times. Instead I keep track in a note on my phone. Not foolproof, sometimes I forget to note a product when I open it, but it works well enough.
As a daily use product, sunscreen can get expensive, especially if one uses them in the appropriate amounts. And it’s disappointing and frustrating to have sunscreens that don’t protect from UVA as well as those in other countries do. I live in the US, and despite using sunscreen daily, I still experience some tanning on my hands and arms, along with the damage that has come with it. It wasn’t until about 3-4 yrs ago that I learned about the poor UVA protection in US sunscreens. I feel sort of betrayed, lied to by the sunscreen companies and the government here. :-/
As a Canadian, I wish that I can be confident that sunscreens have good UVA protection. Did you get tanned even when you used broad-spectrum sunscreens? I noticed tan lines with a ZnO-based sunscreen. It's possible that high SPF sunscreens don't have good UVA protection partly because they can only put up to 3% avobenzone.
Do you think brands will ever go back to using parabens or are we stuck with ethylhexylglycerin and phenoxyethanol forever now? I still remember when they reformulated CeraVe PM and it's never been quite the same. 😭
I don't think they'll go back to be honest - it's too ingrained. But maybe if all the other preservatives start getting studied and they find that they're less safe...
Seriously find me a sunscreen that works on black skin, doesn't pill, doesnt take me 10 minutes to rub in, doesn't burn my acne and eyes and doesn't cost me 60 dollars and I'd never ever stop applying ot
@@ambersmith2612 Don't buy the BoJ it will definately have a cast on a deeper skintone (tinosorb M does leave a white cast despite being a chemical filter.) i am on the pale side of things and i do notice i get a white line in my eyelid crease. Swatch or watch a review by someone like glow by ramon and if he has a slight cast it won't work on black skin. Personally i like lrp uvmune the creme version (not the liquid one) it does not have tinosorb M. I doubt it will leave a cast since it doesn't on medium depth skin tones but i would swatch it so you are sure. It does have a slight amount of alcohol it has a bit of a radiant/glowy finnish but less so than the liquid version whic has A LOT of alcohol. It does not sting my eyes and i know i have super sensitive eyeballs (the BoJ also doesn't sting eyes imo). Though i have sensitive skin a only ever experience stining with high concentrations of alcohol so you would have to look at other reviews for that part. Also i think the texture makes it easy to apply enough since it does not spread out super think like some sunscreens where i feel a need to use less (i don't but applying the correct amount feels like too much).
I wish more people can see your videos. Especially about the fear mongering about ingredients. Some of my friends are going "all naturals" and even stopped using sunscreen. Even if I told them that UV can be harmful to the skin, not just for aged care, but for skin cancer prevention (they're in Australia). They're Asians too, so they have hard boiled egg skin, and that made it even harder to persuade them :(
I've heard a couple supermarkets in the UK are taking best before dates off some foods to help with food waste. I would love to know your thoughts on this concept in the skincare industry, and what products or ingredients would be high risk. Would it be more of a matter of a less potent product or loss of safety with preservative breakdown? Always love how informative your videos are!!
I totally agree with you on the Botox point. I do think most celebrities probably have it at this point or have had some kind of injectable, but not all of us normal folk. I am so terrified of needles so I’ll probably never be able to take the plunge into anything like that but I’ll use my retinol‘s and SPF every day and hope for the best.
9:46. lolol. I wish we would switch to metric! Skincare is actually one of the products that helps me think in metric since most products have imperial and metric on the front.
From my p.o.v. I can see why some ppl find particular packaging, and marketing etc irritating. It can be annoying knowing that a particular product is expensive because of marketing or licensing, this affects their price. If you cannot afford or even try some skincare, and know that the elegant package is part of that whole issue, it can be annoying. I have chronic illness, and disability, lots of us are poorer as a result, and lots of us have skin issues due to stress/discomfort/illness/environmental factors. It can be irritating.
Yeah that's an excellent good point! But I guess there's also all the other things that go into pricing too that are far less impactful than packaging - marketing, market positioning...
The part when you talk about the aging process, and how wanting to look that younger can be very unhealthy, I totally agree with you. I believe that consistency in a good skincare routine that you adapt during your life, is one of the best way to age beautifully. The purpose isn't to stop the aging process, because it depends on a lot more factors than just the skin like you said, but if we can turn this process into a beautiful process, through the mean of skincare, this can't hurt ^^
As for upkeep with beauty treatments: in most cases, say filler, Botox, it's no problem at all, if you increase the time span until you next visit. Getting it too often is a problem (because of ummune reactions and build-up), not getting it less often. I am trying to think of a single treatment, where you desperately have to get the next one at a certain time and can't wait, and I can't think of one. Except maybe if it's a series of treatments that is just split up, because you can't do the whole face in o e go. But even then there is wriggle room. So it really is the same situation as with the hair dresser I guess. If you don't go back to top up filler after the recommended, say, 6 months, nothing will happen except for your face slowly returning to where it started.
I miss parabens! My reactive sensitive skin can’t deal with all these preservatives now days that is to make up for parabens. Need parabens back into my products asap lol. What I do find weird is that why does the majority of skincare products marketed towards people with sensitive skin like my self, contain fragrance/perfume, and alcohol? Just find that very contradicting knowing what we know when it comes to what irritates our skin, and potential aggressors in terms of developing allergies and even Rosacea and contact dermatitis. Happened to me… never had any issues growing up, never used sunscreen, moisturizers or cleaners. But 3 years ago I did, and now I have Rosacea and fungal acne. Never had acne prone skin or issues with acne, now it’s my new reality😭😭😭
I'm 45, almost 46, and since age 29 (after very bad acne) I was prescribed tretinoin. Well, I should thank my acne forever because, without it, I would have never discovered it and started to use sunscreen (I was a sun worshipper). As for the aging gracefully thing... it's right what you say, but I can attest that it's easier to believe in it when you are in your 30s than in your 40s. In my 30, I was still super young (although my skin is better now), so of course, I wasn't even thinking about having procedures done or wanting to look young. Now at 46, although I didn't do anything crazy (TCA peels mainly and some units of botox once per year on the corner of my eyes), I get why some people became obsessed with their appearance. Most of the time is not even vanity. It's so depressing to feel inside the energy and mind of a 30-year-old and then look in the mirror to see a face that looks sad or angry while you are none of these. I am for preserving as much as possible what nature gave you, with skincare and some subtle procedures. I'm well aware that I won't look 20 or 30 anymore, no matter what, but I won't have the grumpy face when I feel cheerful in my 50s. Hopefully :) PS love your channel!
Ha! I was just at the Minnesota State Fair a couple weeks ago (one of the greatest fairs of the world - BTW)! And while I didn't see any of these dispensers, you would be proud of me, because I wore my sunscreen on a very hot sunny day and didn't even remotely get a tan. ;) Love your videos!
It would be nice for sure. I have really sensitive skin and I also hate sticky and greasy. But lucky me I’m also so freaking pale that I’ll burn to a crisp in 15 minutes. The few sunscreens I’ve found that don’t make me itchy, rashy, or make me want to scrub it off by halfway through the day tend to run $15-$20 USD a bottle. Trader Joe’s is about the best balance I’ve found. They make a good aerosol zinc oxide based one that is half the cost.
Lots of mentions here of writing expiry dates on bottles with marker, but when I've tried that I find that the writing often gets smudged over the course of handling a product regularly for several months to a year. Instead I keep a note on my phone with all expiry dates. Arranged in order from soonest to furthest, so that I can quickly see what items I need to prioritize using. It's not foolproof, as I occasionally forget to note a product. And may not be suitable for people like Michelle whose job involves using a lot of different products. But it's worked pretty well for me!
Yes it will happen! It's just been difficult because it's all supplier data but I think I've finally worked out a way of talking about it that makes sense
Yes it will happen! It's just been difficult because it's all supplier data but I think I've finally worked out a way of talking about it that makes sense
I'm the same way about not remembering when I opened a product. A couple months ago I started labeling new products with open dates. I slap on a price of skinny masking tape and use a marker to wrote "opened on [date]"... That's if I remember to do that, lol
I get Botox in my jaws for TMJ disorder - it’s the only TMJ treatment I’ve ever had that helped reduce my neck pain and headaches. I may also have ADHD because I can’t remember to use my night guard to save my life, but I can’t forget my Botox! I got some Botox on my forehead because I was already there so why not. But if I wasn’t getting Botox for pain relief, I would never have gotten any period. I’m completely transparent about my Botox with anyone who wants to know.
For expiry dates: when I open a product I look at the period after opening, write down the expiry date, then tape it to the product. It's a hassle but it satisfies my inner geek and makes me focus on using up products rather than letting them go bad.
No disagreement here!! As an older woman, I think I’d look like a freak if I tried to look too young. I do a lot to take care of my skin, but that is because my father has not an inch of healthy skin in sun exposed areas, and has skin cancer removed every 4-6 months. I’m desperate to avoid that.
Hi Michelle. Thanks for your content. Question: Can a sunscreen with only 4.5% zinc oxide and 2.8% titanium dioxide provide SPF 50? Background: After watching rave reviews on BEA Solar Defense sunscreen SPF 50 I ordered it (from the UK and I live in the US, so expensive shipping!). I really liked it-no grey cast, feels nice on the face, and doesn’t irritate my eyes. Then I read the ingredients more carefully and thought, oh this probably really is too good to be true. Because the sunscreen is targeted at people with deep skin tones, who don’t burn or have any rapid indicator to show us that it’s not effective, they can get away with it?? Or has this brand somehow cracked the formulation code? I’d love love your educated opinion!
About sunscreens I think most of the people don't know they even should use it. In Australia people are probably more aware of sun protection than in Poland, where I live. Sunscreen here is by most of the people treated as a cream for the beach and only used when on vacation in some hotter country. If this experiment was carried out here, I would assume that most of the people on the street would laugh at it, especially during cloudy day.
Definitely have been taken less seriously as a young-looking person. My mom was very good about keeping me out of the sun as a kid and I'm obsessive about skincare but maybe I could get treated like an adult if I looked more like a leather bag idk. 🙄
I'm always a little wary when people strongly advocate natural products... arsenic is natural, and I think about how well that turned out cosmetically and historically 😬
I want to know if caffeine eye creams actually do anything for puffiness, or if it's just pseudoscience. For years I used expensive caffeine eye cream because I had mast cell activation disorder for a while and my eyelids would swell horribly, and I read that puffiness over time can lead to permanent sagging skin. Then i came across a study that showed no depuffing benefit to topical caffeine, and was just furious at being duped for so long. I stopped using caffeine eye cream a couple years ago and, if anything, the puffiness has gone down (coincidentally, or because the ingredients in the eye cream were causing a reaction, I don't know). It's strangely hard to find scientific studies on caffeine in skin care, though. I'm not sure if the study i read is backed up by other studies or not.
Hi Michelle, I didn’t realise you had adhd. How did you stay on track, focus, plan and complete the enormous amount of work required for your degrees abd PhD? Thanks
When it comes to expiration dates I worry most about mascara. I know it should be replaced after 3 months of use. But I've often wondered how long can you keep an "unopened" tube?
My unpopular opinion is that I don't like double cleansing. I've tried it and even though my oily combination skin is pretty resilient, it really irritated my face every time I cleansed like this. A good oil cleanser that leaves no film works way better for me. I personally love the cleansing balm from banila
I have a young face as well. It sometimes affects my job in being taken seriously as I'm a doctor where the image is a middle aged man while I look like an apparently 20 year old student girl, when I'm actually 30 and finished uni 5 years ago.
Yeah ageing isn't just about "smooth skin". Like yeah, damn, my skin is amazing for 33yo but it's obvious I am older. I've lost facial fat due to losing baby fat, I've noticed the slightest amount of jowling, and I still have the hint of fine lines. Sure there are 20 year olds with worse skin than me, but the overall - I mean I think there's training in eyeing people properly - they are younger, but not necessarily better lol. Its about looking good FOR YOUR AGE not trying to look like an actual 20yo at the age of 60
I'm ND/chronic illness and anything with constant maintenance becomes a chore. I even have to get used to new meds added into my routine. I need the basics but unfortunately I got overwhelmed by going to dermatologist because I have rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, breakouts, dehydration and more. My ENT debated on botox...but as a medical procedure for rare tinnitus. It's too risky, so I need a jaw surgery. 😩 I also need laser for my rosacea and hair because I get ingrown hair. Can't afford any of it. I also get autoimmune hives and I can react to strong scents. I never know if I buy something new if it's gonna make me break out so Im pretty boring with the Cetaphil, cerave, green tea OTC and metronidazole.
"that's all Celsius because I live in a country that has real numbers" hahahahhahahahahhhahahhahahahahahha. I'm from Brasil, we use the metric too, I loved that line!!!
Your last point was really interesting and simultaneously frustrating. I don't think sunscreen (like tampons, dental hygiene products, and bar soap) should be free, but they should definitely be tax free. I've always thought this, and your loss aversion point is really apt
I don't remember where I've read it but once I came across a blog post interview of a comercial skincare chemist - brigaded from a reddit post - and they develop products with what's buzzing in the market, sometimes they go to another route of it being commercially alluring than developing the best possible product. In my experience, it justifies why the dermatologists I've been to don't care about the products itself, often they don't know what's good to target cosmetic skin issues - and neither I have confronted about it. It's just to note that dermatologists target a much larger variety of skin diseases, and the clean beauty industry focuses on our insecurities and a lot more on superficial concerns, even though there's a veil of health concerns, it's not grounded in scientific facts. The chemists for those companies are just doing their job but I'd hope everyone would contribute to advance skincare, to help mend skincare and health to actually help all of us who want to get the best results and have the most effective products.
Damn I'm in Minnesota, I go to the fair every year and I never heard about this. I'm not sure this is the best way to test public health measures though, it's very inconvenient to get somewhere in the MN state fair, it's one of the biggest in the world, and in terms of daily attendance its the largest in the country, and there's so many people that it's not good to count on waiting in line for something free
I'm also not good about the consistent appointments situation. I have to keep up with so much regular medical care that worrying I'll need my roots touched up or my hair trimmed is just annoying for me. I've managed to reach 55 looking pretty young, and no gray hair so I've become lazy about hair coloring. 😅 I love skin care, not as much putting on make-up... people are all different both physiologically and psychologically so people need to get over standards, labels, and putting people in boxes.
According to studies the lowest sunscreen prices would be in Canada and the highest in Italy. I am Italian Canadian so let me tell you living in both places I dream at night of government programs subsidizing sunscreen for people or something. They just are expensive everywhere and as a student, sunscreen makes ridiculous part of my budget. People look at me like I'm crazy for buying as much when I'm just part of the few who follows actual dermatologists recommendations, and wearing ugly uv surfing shirts under my shirts to save on $. Especially in Italy where it's a year long sun bath, and where being an unfashionable woman is a crime haha
Another unpopular opinion, I don't think skin cycling is necessary for me. I can get away with alternating between gentle exfoliants (mandelic acid and bha) and retinol every other night. But that might change when I use stronger retinol products, since I started very low
Honestly this whole sunscreen thing is giving me so much anxiety... in my country sunscreens are very expensive and most people simply will not spend money on them. I'm also concerned about the safety of many of them. Of course it's not a problem if you have money. You can easily buy new organic photostable spf but what if you can't? And you also hate to reapply it because it makes your life so difficult? There's really no adequate solution for that
It's interesting how you mention adhd and soylent this video because soylent is the only way my adhd, sleep disordered, science student, ass manages to get a proper amount of calories and nutrients in everyday T_T
Serious question (I swear, this isn't teasing, I honestly don't know): Do you say "nerdification bell" in the end, or is it just the phonetics of your particular accent? I've been wondering about this, since I first watched your videos^^. I think "nerdification" would be totally fitting your channel aswell!^^. Not a native English speaker!
I feel like the conflation of health and beauty into one category is the absolute worst. It makes it really difficult to judge on a personal level whether you want to use a product when you don't know if the thing it's preventing is dangerous or if people who's opinion you may not share have decided it looks bad.
I didn't realise you were a cosmetic chemist. If that's a recent development then congrats! (I've been offline for a while). Are there any dry skin 'influencers' you can recommend?
I understand that expiration dates are estimate at best, but I wish it was mandatory to put a production date on all the products where it's hard to estimate correctly (cosmetics, makeup, etc). A lot of products I have only have a meaningless code (for customers) which, if lucky, you can find somehow listed on some of the checking sites, but not everyone has knowledge how to do that and not all codes are available or correct.
Hey Michelle, thanks for another informative video. Have you tried My.Organics hair care range? If you have done so or would consider trying hair products from My.Organics, what are your takes of their approach to ‘clean’ and ‘organic’ ingredients or overall effectiveness?
For me, who has horrible skin sensitivity issues, who either gets acne or dermatitis for practically all products on the market, paraben free products are a boon. But I'm the exception, not the rule and most people can use products available without suffering the way I did. My choices are way too limited and way too expensive... 😭 It's only recentlt that i found a local brand that caters to the needs of people like me without being overly expensive
I've had to go into an argument on why cosmetic brands cannot make therapeutic claims and how cosmetics are regulated differently from medicine. Marketing words such as 'healing' makes me want to ask for clinical evidence and independent studies.
Yes! It's a really overlooked concept, a lot of brands who say they want to "bring science to skincare" actually mean they want to make drug claims 😒
People have an obsession in looking 20-30 years younger and honestly ageing is so complex and wholistic that it is impossible. That does not mean you cannot look great in your 50s and 60s, I have seen people who really aged well. However, they do not look 20 (as a side note, not all 20yo look good)
I think the human eye/brain is also really good at telling when things don't fit the usual pattern. So you can have that erbium laser and get baby bottom skin if it you makes you feel better - but people you meet will be able to tell something's unusual and perhaps your face doesn't match your body or your skin surface doesn't match your skin laxity. We can do what makes us feel good but shouldn't expect it to be undetectable or to look completely 'natural'. Ageing is what looks natural.
@@beebs9979 oh for sure
Yeah, I like watching British TV shows because they actually hire unattractive actors and have them wear the same clothes more than once. After you've watched them for a bit you realize the unattractive actors aren't detracting from the enjoyment of the story at all. Whereas in Hollywood, everyone's got to be young, thin, put-together, and gorgeous regardless of the role. Like, an Agatha Christie Poirot movie made in Hollywood will have a hot, young Poirot, when he's supposed to be aging and short, with an egg-shaped head and a mustache that makes English people laugh at him.
@@SchlichteToven You're confusing 'unattractive' with un-enhanced / everyday *normal.* '𝐴𝑓𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑦𝑜𝑢'𝑣𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎 𝑏𝑖𝑡 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑧𝑒.. - it's an adjustment for you rather than straight forward? It could also be the genre tho'; Hollywood films are notoriously shallow but many US sitcoms /comedies have everyday looking people (Roseanne, My Name is Earl etc - tho' not Friends!)- while some British TV shows have only the airbrushed & young, especially these days; I can't watch them as I have facial recognition issues & everyone looks so similar that it confuses me! :/
@@beebs9979 Whether they can tell or not that something's unusual, smooth skin still looks far better! & tweaks genuinely *can* be undetectable, but it's hard not to cross the line & tip the balance into odd, as you see the great results & want more & a bad practitioner will encourage it. Sometimes you can tell with necks & hands not matching a youthed-up face? I always kept out've the sun, so mine have aged far slower, compared to people my age who expect my skin to look like theirs, same people that used to laugh at my dislike of sun-bathing & obsession with SPF.. 😊
I always wonder how these clean beauty people live their whole life so pure. I mean if they worry about toxins in beauty how do they venture outside. It's all about measures and risks surely. Sure I could put nothing on my skin and hair, but I'd get burnt and feel like a mess then my esteem would probably suffer. So pass the chemicals thanks.
One thing these clean beauty purveyors forget to consider is the very air they breathe. There are more carcinogens in the surrounding air if they lived in a city with gasoline-powered vehicles than a well-regulated ingredient in their skincare.
Idk about skincare youtubers but a lot of "clean, chemical free" type lifestyle and health youtubers have had plastic surgery. Like really, you're going to tell me something is bad because it's "unnatual" with silicone bags in your body?
Also beauty youtubers that talk about "non toxic" and then go get botox 🤣
@@RoastedSaltedPeanut It's right in the name! 🤦♀️
Everything is chemicals, water is a chemical compound. No one can live without chemicals. So silly 😊
The human brain is terrible when it comes to risk. The car ride to the airport is way more dangerous then the plane flight will ever be, yet people are way more scared of planes then cars because plane crashes are hyped up on the news way more then car crashes. The same applies to "chemicals", clean beauty fanatics are only scared about the chemicals they have been told about and are ignorant about all the rest, hence the hypocrisy you are seeing.
when you said sunscreen costs $2 by you my jaw DROPPED! even the cheapest sunscreens by me are around $10-12 and range from greasy to irritating and are very rarely spf 50 :(
They are 30$ in my country, and that is the same price as a month of rent
@@SieMiezekatze What's your country?
And the good ones are like 60$!
Maybe it's subsidized. If it's 2 Australian dollars, that's 1.23 EUR, which won't even buy a bottle of travel size basic body sunscreen where I live. 200 ml of cheap brand 30 SPF will cost you 8 euros here and although it will work just fine, it won't be very elegant and I wouldn't put it on my face unless it was all I had and I was doing yard work where no one could see me.
I don't think it's subsidised - aside from maybe the Cancer Council. Hamilton, Cancer Council, and ego are ~AU$5 to $10/50 mL, for their basic sunscreens, supermarkets' own brands are even cheaper, and heaps of people use them every day, multiple applications per day. I think it might be a cultural expectation: it's a basic necessity, like toilet paper, so there has to be an acceptable cheap option!
I hear you on anything that requires a “regular” appointment to maintain. Gel nails taught me that I don’t care enough about my nails looking good to keep it up. That philosophy has basically generalized to the rest of my life 😏
The things that require regular appointments and maintenance really do rob us of our money and I think it's worth us weighing up those cost benefits! I've had my fingernails painted with Shellac once. Years ago. I leave them bare and keep them neat. I paint my own toenails in the warmer months - if you buy good polishes and use a topcoat like seche vite, they look pretty pro. I'd prefer to pay my mortgage than a salon 😄
Same. If I have to leave the house on a regular basis then it is going to be a no for me. I hated getting my lashes refilled every 3 weeks. Ugh
Part of why I started taking care of my natural nails is because I would rarely go through the effort of keeping up appointments. But I love the look of long nails so I learned how to maintain my natural nails. I've had them for about 6 years now so the maintenance is just routine at this point lol.
Same here, the last time I was at a hairdresser was in 2008. I've learned how to take care of myself, whenever I feel like it. Saves a lot of time and money too.
I feel like people who think skincare doesn’t do anything/is frivolous aren’t thinking about folks with acne. Acne can be uncomfortable - even painful - and there’s a lot of stigma around having visible acne/pimples. Obviously acne isn’t the only reason to have a skincare routine, but for me it’s the big reason I care about it
I have rosacea, plus my skin is very dry naturally. Besides the stigma of visible skin "defects" (ugh), it's also more comfortable for me if I moisturise
Well said, I have oily skin and makeup melting of my face is why I have a strong skincare routine
For me, having acne as a teenager was part of what made skincare seem useless. It felt like everything I did either made the problem worse, or did nothing at all. The money I'd wasted on products was adding insult to injury.
So yeah, I understand where you're coming from, but I also think I developed that exact attitude from a place of powerlessness.
They aren’t thinking at all.
I'm so glad you mentioned you have ADHD since I don't really associate people who went to James Ruse and then pursued a PhD struggling with that sort of thing. It's so inspiring to me, and a reminder that I need to stop getting so distracted!!
And she only got diagnosed within the last year or so! As far as I'm concerned, anyone who manages to complete one let alone MULTIPLE degrees with untreated adhd is a superhero
kind of insulting tbh. adhd is weirdly common among smart ambitious types it just makes us look a bit chaotic at the same time.
@@billyt8868 i don't think this is insulting personally. i get what you mean but the public perception of adhd is still very much 'constantly distracted, unable to focus on anything' -- for me its just cool to see people who have actually really excelled academically be open about also having adhd, because hopefully it will alter the public perception a little :)
It often to overlaps with aspergers /hi function autism
Yea as someone with severe adhd and having a huge struggle with doing school, I always wonder how these people are diagnosed, probably because I'm a bit bitter over that a bit. I just wonder how they end up being on the adhd spectrum because the symptoms of adhd are all also on the spectrum of normal people, so I prefer to only call it adhd when people actually have issues with these symptoms that prevent them from living a normal life off medication. Maybe I just developed a gatekeeper mindset because people are dismissive of the existence of adhd in the first place, but I guess what I wonder more is, why did she get a diagnosis? Because here on youtube on the surface she seems like a great organized and smart person. Were there any issues that made her start questioning if she is maybe struggling with something... We after all don't see behind the image these youtubers present to us.
Hi Michelle as someone with both rosacea and eczema I miss parabens!!!! I had a lot less reactions to products with parabens than some of the newer preservatives used (looking at you the itchy m's). It seems like everything is "paraben free" now and those of us with impaired barriers are having a tougher time of it.
The so called non essential steps in a skincare routine feel really essential to me. I have extremely dry skin that's always also really dehydrated (it doesn't matter how much liquid I consume btw). Having both the rosacea and eczema means my barrier is permanently impaired and I lose water out of the skin incredibly easily - no matter how occlusive my moisturiser is. Replacing that hydration is so much easier and cheaper (150ml plus bottles of toner versus a 30ml serum or 50ml moisturiser) by using toners, mists or essences in layers first and then sealing that hydration in with thicker textures/more occlusive products. My skin soaks in those layers quickly and they make it feel quenched (albeit sometimes more temporarily than I would like) - this makes it feel more comfortable as dry/cracked/irritated skin is really uncomfortable. I can't get that feeling from a few drops of serum on damp skin, or from just a moisturiser on damp skin. I think if you have oily skin you probably don't need all that extra moisture, so the people advocating not using these things don't have the extreme dryness to deal with that I do. I also think environment plays a huge role in this - many of those advocating for not using them live in humid climates where they are always going to have less need for layers of moisture. I can only comment from my perspective of having the skin I have and living where I live, but for me layers of hydrating/moisturising products are extremely helpful and they are an essential for me. Best wishes.
My skin sounds exactly the same. I never considered that I could have a year round impaired barrier. I kept thinking I must be irritating my skin some unknown way, and was just constantly damaging it lol
It's interesting what products cause sensitivity and which don't. Dermatologists always push Cerave as being gentle and non-irritating, but it burns the crap out of my face!
@@megancastle5573 cereve burns and stings on me too x
The biggest issue I've found with getting people in my life to wear sunscreen is the way it feels. As someone who also lives in Australia, applying the correct amount of sunscreen and reapplying is so important to me. I can't bring myself to liberally apply and reapply a cosmetically elegant 75ml tube of sunscreen that cost any more than $18. I just don't have that kind of money.
I love the idea of doing more studies giving people a variety of opportunities to access spf. Free is not always the answer. Having dispensers in strategic locations would definitely help. I think in certain places it could be “complimentary” and others could be a minimal fee. I think the pain points are throwing products away without finishing the bottle, spending too much money on one bottle, & forgetting said bottle altogether. Maybe incentivizing finishing the bottle before the expiration date? Thanks for sharing and answering questions.
They just put in a sunscreen dispenser at my local beach. I was so excited to see it. I hope more people use it
Wow that's great
It’s highly unlikely that parabens were taken out of products to make them go bad faster. Most people dont throw products away because they’ve “gone bad” and will keep products for months or years past their expiration date. Clean beauty marketing seems like a much more plausible explanation.
Yeah, my reptile brain is pretty resistant to what they call "clean beauty." Clean beauty isn't so clean or beautiful when you break out in a rash from something touted as natural.
On the other hand, when you have all product that have an expiry dates, people accuse you of making an expiry to sell more because they have to theow out their products.
I'm always down to listening to a rant by you 😅 I know it's awful that some of the skincare public and brands make you this angry. But thanks for combating information and educating us in skincare science :)
omg I love the volumetric flask with fairy lights in your background (just in general, as a former chemist, your background makes me really happy)
I would love a video on ANTI-INFLAMATORY skincare/ingredients: what is it and how does it work and is it worth pursuing?
Anti-inflammatory is only a medical claim and should not be on cosmetics products
@@shuwaynedesouza3156 lol, well it's everywhere so... Would also love a video on Anti-inflammatory skincare.
You're better off focusing on ingesting anti-inflammatory foods rather than bother with putting it on your skin. Same with collagen lol
@DavidCruickshank You wouldn't get much of an anti-inflammatory effect with cosmetic products, so no, it's not worth pursuing. Anti-inflammation is what happens when you take acetaminophen or ibuprofen after an injury or when you rub voltaren gel on a sore muscle. The science behind it is too long for a comment section.
Thank you for having proper subtitles on this video! And for putting all the text etc up top so it doesn't fight with the subtitles. I really appreciate it. 💘
Totally agree, when I was younger I only used sunscreen when hiking or at the beach. Now that I have a bit more coin in my pocket I will wear it whenever the sun is up! The hard thing is to fine one even the chemical ones that don't pill, dry quickly and are not shiny.
About sunscreens - I think many would wear them daily even if they weren't free, just if they looked good, especially on dark, oily, textured or acne-prone skin. I struggle to follow the 2mg/cm³ rule because no sunscreen looks good with that amount - even expensive ones. I'm not a specialist so I don't know why this particular amount is the industry standard for getting the labeled SPF, but it's really a lot! Also I can't find a convenient reapplication method: even on bare skin reapplication clogs my pores (oily and acne-prone skin, ugh) because I can't properly cleanse beforehand, and when I wear makeup it's nearly impossible to reapply, especially on the eyes. I want to protect my health, but not at the cost of my favorite self-expression medium.
Not just appearance, a ton of people cannot deal with the greasy, sticky feeling and that odd smell that sunscreens tend to have. It's very overwhelming to have hair sticking to your face and slippery or sticky knee pits and elbow pits.
I keep a sharpie and dry erase marker on my bathroom counter. I sharpie the date I opened the product on the bottom, and use the dry erase to write things like my AM/PM routine, order of products, the last time I used retinol so I don’t forget and use it two days in a row, etc.
That's a great idea! I've seen some Korean brands with opening date labels too... if only I could remember to use them 😅
I do the same! I do for food too. This is a hold over from my lab days. 😆
I've tried the sharpie thing but usually end up smearing the label over the course of handling the bottle so many times. Instead I keep track in a note on my phone. Not foolproof, sometimes I forget to note a product when I open it, but it works well enough.
As a daily use product, sunscreen can get expensive, especially if one uses them in the appropriate amounts. And it’s disappointing and frustrating to have sunscreens that don’t protect from UVA as well as those in other countries do. I live in the US, and despite using sunscreen daily, I still experience some tanning on my hands and arms, along with the damage that has come with it. It wasn’t until about 3-4 yrs ago that I learned about the poor UVA protection in US sunscreens. I feel sort of betrayed, lied to by the sunscreen companies and the government here. :-/
As a Canadian, I wish that I can be confident that sunscreens have good UVA protection. Did you get tanned even when you used broad-spectrum sunscreens? I noticed tan lines with a ZnO-based sunscreen. It's possible that high SPF sunscreens don't have good UVA protection partly because they can only put up to 3% avobenzone.
Do you think brands will ever go back to using parabens or are we stuck with ethylhexylglycerin and phenoxyethanol forever now? I still remember when they reformulated CeraVe PM and it's never been quite the same. 😭
I see some brands using parabens in their items. I'm based in the US.
I don't think they'll go back to be honest - it's too ingrained. But maybe if all the other preservatives start getting studied and they find that they're less safe...
I literally jumped from my chair to watch and listen to Michelle!!!... 👍👍😃.... greetings from the Netherlands!!!
If they made cosmetically elegant sunscreens (face ones too) for free, I would be all over that!
Lol. Yup. I'll be there with empty containers.
Seriously find me a sunscreen that works on black skin, doesn't pill, doesnt take me 10 minutes to rub in, doesn't burn my acne and eyes and doesn't cost me 60 dollars and I'd never ever stop applying ot
@@ambersmith2612 try the BoJ rice probiotics sunscreen. I love the isntree sunstick too tho I haven't tested the tube form yet
@@ambersmith2612 try Isntree Watery Sun Fluid SPF 50. It has hyaluronic acid for hydration. Great Product.
@@ambersmith2612 Don't buy the BoJ it will definately have a cast on a deeper skintone (tinosorb M does leave a white cast despite being a chemical filter.) i am on the pale side of things and i do notice i get a white line in my eyelid crease. Swatch or watch a review by someone like glow by ramon and if he has a slight cast it won't work on black skin. Personally i like lrp uvmune the creme version (not the liquid one) it does not have tinosorb M. I doubt it will leave a cast since it doesn't on medium depth skin tones but i would swatch it so you are sure. It does have a slight amount of alcohol it has a bit of a radiant/glowy finnish but less so than the liquid version whic has A LOT of alcohol. It does not sting my eyes and i know i have super sensitive eyeballs (the BoJ also doesn't sting eyes imo). Though i have sensitive skin a only ever experience stining with high concentrations of alcohol so you would have to look at other reviews for that part.
Also i think the texture makes it easy to apply enough since it does not spread out super think like some sunscreens where i feel a need to use less (i don't but applying the correct amount feels like too much).
I wish more people can see your videos. Especially about the fear mongering about ingredients. Some of my friends are going "all naturals" and even stopped using sunscreen.
Even if I told them that UV can be harmful to the skin, not just for aged care, but for skin cancer prevention (they're in Australia). They're Asians too, so they have hard boiled egg skin, and that made it even harder to persuade them :(
Oooh I'm early to this one! I love your videos, Michelle! So educational and you are legitimately so funny!
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I've heard a couple supermarkets in the UK are taking best before dates off some foods to help with food waste. I would love to know your thoughts on this concept in the skincare industry, and what products or ingredients would be high risk. Would it be more of a matter of a less potent product or loss of safety with preservative breakdown? Always love how informative your videos are!!
Very relatable ADHD decision making! I’ve accepted the same qualities in myself and life is easier for it
Best moments of my life is when i see a Lab Muffin notification!
I totally agree with you on the Botox point. I do think most celebrities probably have it at this point or have had some kind of injectable, but not all of us normal folk. I am so terrified of needles so I’ll probably never be able to take the plunge into anything like that but I’ll use my retinol‘s and SPF every day and hope for the best.
I wish there was more examples of Botox gone right, because everyone only sees the bad results
9:46. lolol. I wish we would switch to metric! Skincare is actually one of the products that helps me think in metric since most products have imperial and metric on the front.
From my p.o.v. I can see why some ppl find particular packaging, and marketing etc irritating. It can be annoying knowing that a particular product is expensive because of marketing or licensing, this affects their price. If you cannot afford or even try some skincare, and know that the elegant package is part of that whole issue, it can be annoying. I have chronic illness, and disability, lots of us are poorer as a result, and lots of us have skin issues due to stress/discomfort/illness/environmental factors. It can be irritating.
Yeah that's an excellent good point! But I guess there's also all the other things that go into pricing too that are far less impactful than packaging - marketing, market positioning...
14:51 I had to go back and make sure I heard it correctly. There are free sunscreen dispensers in Australian beaches? That sounds amazing
The part when you talk about the aging process, and how wanting to look that younger can be very unhealthy, I totally agree with you. I believe that consistency in a good skincare routine that you adapt during your life, is one of the best way to age beautifully. The purpose isn't to stop the aging process, because it depends on a lot more factors than just the skin like you said, but if we can turn this process into a beautiful process, through the mean of skincare, this can't hurt ^^
As for upkeep with beauty treatments: in most cases, say filler, Botox, it's no problem at all, if you increase the time span until you next visit. Getting it too often is a problem (because of ummune reactions and build-up), not getting it less often. I am trying to think of a single treatment, where you desperately have to get the next one at a certain time and can't wait, and I can't think of one. Except maybe if it's a series of treatments that is just split up, because you can't do the whole face in o e go. But even then there is wriggle room. So it really is the same situation as with the hair dresser I guess. If you don't go back to top up filler after the recommended, say, 6 months, nothing will happen except for your face slowly returning to where it started.
The painful relating sis on not goin to the haird dressers or forgetting ur skincare 😅😂😭 omg
🙌👏 Yeahhh chatty video tx once again for all that you bring and 'do'.
I miss parabens! My reactive sensitive skin can’t deal with all these preservatives now days that is to make up for parabens. Need parabens back into my products asap lol. What I do find weird is that why does the majority of skincare products marketed towards people with sensitive skin like my self, contain fragrance/perfume, and alcohol? Just find that very contradicting knowing what we know when it comes to what irritates our skin, and potential aggressors in terms of developing allergies and even Rosacea and contact dermatitis. Happened to me… never had any issues growing up, never used sunscreen, moisturizers or cleaners. But 3 years ago I did, and now I have Rosacea and fungal
acne. Never had acne prone skin or issues with acne, now it’s my new reality😭😭😭
I relate sooo hard !
I'm 45, almost 46, and since age 29 (after very bad acne) I was prescribed tretinoin. Well, I should thank my acne forever because, without it, I would have never discovered it and started to use sunscreen (I was a sun worshipper). As for the aging gracefully thing... it's right what you say, but I can attest that it's easier to believe in it when you are in your 30s than in your 40s.
In my 30, I was still super young (although my skin is better now), so of course, I wasn't even thinking about having procedures done or wanting to look young.
Now at 46, although I didn't do anything crazy (TCA peels mainly and some units of botox once per year on the corner of my eyes), I get why some people became obsessed with their appearance.
Most of the time is not even vanity. It's so depressing to feel inside the energy and mind of a 30-year-old and then look in the mirror to see a face that looks sad or angry while you are none of these.
I am for preserving as much as possible what nature gave you, with skincare and some subtle procedures. I'm well aware that I won't look 20 or 30 anymore, no matter what, but I won't have the grumpy face when I feel cheerful in my 50s. Hopefully :)
PS love your channel!
Ha! I was just at the Minnesota State Fair a couple weeks ago (one of the greatest fairs of the world - BTW)! And while I didn't see any of these dispensers, you would be proud of me, because I wore my sunscreen on a very hot sunny day and didn't even remotely get a tan. ;) Love your videos!
2 dollar sunscreen!!! That is amazing. I would bathe in it. 🌼
It would be nice for sure. I have really sensitive skin and I also hate sticky and greasy. But lucky me I’m also so freaking pale that I’ll burn to a crisp in 15 minutes. The few sunscreens I’ve found that don’t make me itchy, rashy, or make me want to scrub it off by halfway through the day tend to run $15-$20 USD a bottle. Trader Joe’s is about the best balance I’ve found. They make a good aerosol zinc oxide based one that is half the cost.
Lots of mentions here of writing expiry dates on bottles with marker, but when I've tried that I find that the writing often gets smudged over the course of handling a product regularly for several months to a year. Instead I keep a note on my phone with all expiry dates. Arranged in order from soonest to furthest, so that I can quickly see what items I need to prioritize using. It's not foolproof, as I occasionally forget to note a product. And may not be suitable for people like Michelle whose job involves using a lot of different products. But it's worked pretty well for me!
Think we'll ever get a part 2 on your Vitamin C video? I would love to know if there are any useful Vitamin C derivatives
Yes it will happen! It's just been difficult because it's all supplier data but I think I've finally worked out a way of talking about it that makes sense
Yes it will happen! It's just been difficult because it's all supplier data but I think I've finally worked out a way of talking about it that makes sense
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience no rush! You do such high quality work that probably takes forever to research/compile/film.
This would be great.
I'm the same way about not remembering when I opened a product. A couple months ago I started labeling new products with open dates. I slap on a price of skinny masking tape and use a marker to wrote "opened on [date]"... That's if I remember to do that, lol
I get Botox in my jaws for TMJ disorder - it’s the only TMJ treatment I’ve ever had that helped reduce my neck pain and headaches. I may also have ADHD because I can’t remember to use my night guard to save my life, but I can’t forget my Botox!
I got some Botox on my forehead because I was already there so why not. But if I wasn’t getting Botox for pain relief, I would never have gotten any period. I’m completely transparent about my Botox with anyone who wants to know.
i would be really interested in hearing about your masseter botox journey if you‘re comfortable!! it‘s something i‘ve considered doing
For expiry dates: when I open a product I look at the period after opening, write down the expiry date, then tape it to the product. It's a hassle but it satisfies my inner geek and makes me focus on using up products rather than letting them go bad.
I love this kind of video and I’m happy to see that you did another one. Keep them coming!
I started putting labels on my products with the date I opened them which has helped me with actually using the stuff, which surprised me really lol
No disagreement here!! As an older woman, I think I’d look like a freak if I tried to look too young. I do a lot to take care of my skin, but that is because my father has not an inch of healthy skin in sun exposed areas, and has skin cancer removed every 4-6 months. I’m desperate to avoid that.
Hi Michelle. Thanks for your content.
Question: Can a sunscreen with only 4.5% zinc oxide and 2.8% titanium dioxide provide SPF 50?
Background: After watching rave reviews on BEA Solar Defense sunscreen SPF 50 I ordered it (from the UK and I live in the US, so expensive shipping!). I really liked it-no grey cast, feels nice on the face, and doesn’t irritate my eyes. Then I read the ingredients more carefully and thought, oh this probably really is too good to be true. Because the sunscreen is targeted at people with deep skin tones, who don’t burn or have any rapid indicator to show us that it’s not effective, they can get away with it?? Or has this brand somehow cracked the formulation code?
I’d love love your educated opinion!
I d love to hear your thoughts on red and infrared face masks.
About sunscreens I think most of the people don't know they even should use it. In Australia people are probably more aware of sun protection than in Poland, where I live. Sunscreen here is by most of the people treated as a cream for the beach and only used when on vacation in some hotter country. If this experiment was carried out here, I would assume that most of the people on the street would laugh at it, especially during cloudy day.
Would it be possible to make more videos about haircare? Yours are so informative and helpful.
Ooh, I love Soylent, but it is a convenient replacement for other processed foods
I label most of my products with the opening date. Then I can easily see how old my products are. Gives me a little bit peace of mind.
Definitely have been taken less seriously as a young-looking person. My mom was very good about keeping me out of the sun as a kid and I'm obsessive about skincare but maybe I could get treated like an adult if I looked more like a leather bag idk. 🙄
I get Botox injections in my head from my neurologist for migraines…a little jab around my eyes if I beg 😂
'Because I live in a country with real numbers' - you summed up everything I never realised I felt about Fahrenheit
I'm always a little wary when people strongly advocate natural products... arsenic is natural, and I think about how well that turned out cosmetically and historically 😬
I love your frankness as well as your attitude. I see no shame in "procedures. " It's your face; do as you please with it!
Not sure how I'm always so early entirely by coincidence but I'm happy to be here regardless 😌
I want to know if caffeine eye creams actually do anything for puffiness, or if it's just pseudoscience. For years I used expensive caffeine eye cream because I had mast cell activation disorder for a while and my eyelids would swell horribly, and I read that puffiness over time can lead to permanent sagging skin. Then i came across a study that showed no depuffing benefit to topical caffeine, and was just furious at being duped for so long. I stopped using caffeine eye cream a couple years ago and, if anything, the puffiness has gone down (coincidentally, or because the ingredients in the eye cream were causing a reaction, I don't know). It's strangely hard to find scientific studies on caffeine in skin care, though. I'm not sure if the study i read is backed up by other studies or not.
The preservatives thing! My skin reacts to sodium benzoate. My face gets red and starts stinging seconds or minutes after applying.
Hi Michelle, I didn’t realise you had adhd. How did you stay on track, focus, plan and complete the enormous amount of work required for your degrees abd PhD? Thanks
When it comes to expiration dates I worry most about mascara. I know it should be replaced after 3 months of use. But I've often wondered how long can you keep an "unopened" tube?
My unpopular opinion is that I don't like double cleansing. I've tried it and even though my oily combination skin is pretty resilient, it really irritated my face every time I cleansed like this. A good oil cleanser that leaves no film works way better for me. I personally love the cleansing balm from banila
I have a young face as well. It sometimes affects my job in being taken seriously as I'm a doctor where the image is a middle aged man while I look like an apparently 20 year old student girl, when I'm actually 30 and finished uni 5 years ago.
Maybe it's the way you feel about yourself or but yeah maybe a couple people will reinforce it but what do friends and family say?
@@ayoCC They say the same, that I look like a kid
Yeah ageing isn't just about "smooth skin". Like yeah, damn, my skin is amazing for 33yo but it's obvious I am older. I've lost facial fat due to losing baby fat, I've noticed the slightest amount of jowling, and I still have the hint of fine lines. Sure there are 20 year olds with worse skin than me, but the overall - I mean I think there's training in eyeing people properly - they are younger, but not necessarily better lol. Its about looking good FOR YOUR AGE not trying to look like an actual 20yo at the age of 60
‘That’s all Celsius because I live in a country that has…real numbers’ 😂🙌🏼
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I'm ND/chronic illness and anything with constant maintenance becomes a chore. I even have to get used to new meds added into my routine. I need the basics but unfortunately I got overwhelmed by going to dermatologist because I have rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, breakouts, dehydration and more. My ENT debated on botox...but as a medical procedure for rare tinnitus. It's too risky, so I need a jaw surgery. 😩 I also need laser for my rosacea and hair because I get ingrown hair. Can't afford any of it. I also get autoimmune hives and I can react to strong scents. I never know if I buy something new if it's gonna make me break out so Im pretty boring with the Cetaphil, cerave, green tea OTC and metronidazole.
Thank you so much for talking about how some asian women are not taken seriously because they age differently!!
Women can't win sometimes. You age and you are a has been, you look young and you are just a girl.....
"that's all Celsius because I live in a country that has real numbers" hahahahhahahahahhhahahhahahahahahha. I'm from Brasil, we use the metric too, I loved that line!!!
Your last point was really interesting and simultaneously frustrating. I don't think sunscreen (like tampons, dental hygiene products, and bar soap) should be free, but they should definitely be tax free. I've always thought this, and your loss aversion point is really apt
You are the only one I'll click like before watching, and I hope you roast some more myths
Thank you! ❤️
Energy crisis 🤣🤣 touché!!!
The point about expiry date is so good. I am thinking of writing the best till after opening date by permanent marker on the bottles/jars by myself.
I don't remember where I've read it but once I came across a blog post interview of a comercial skincare chemist - brigaded from a reddit post - and they develop products with what's buzzing in the market, sometimes they go to another route of it being commercially alluring than developing the best possible product. In my experience, it justifies why the dermatologists I've been to don't care about the products itself, often they don't know what's good to target cosmetic skin issues - and neither I have confronted about it. It's just to note that dermatologists target a much larger variety of skin diseases, and the clean beauty industry focuses on our insecurities and a lot more on superficial concerns, even though there's a veil of health concerns, it's not grounded in scientific facts. The chemists for those companies are just doing their job but I'd hope everyone would contribute to advance skincare, to help mend skincare and health to actually help all of us who want to get the best results and have the most effective products.
Damn I'm in Minnesota, I go to the fair every year and I never heard about this. I'm not sure this is the best way to test public health measures though, it's very inconvenient to get somewhere in the MN state fair, it's one of the biggest in the world, and in terms of daily attendance its the largest in the country, and there's so many people that it's not good to count on waiting in line for something free
I love the idea of paid sunscreen dispensers!
I'm also not good about the consistent appointments situation. I have to keep up with so much regular medical care that worrying I'll need my roots touched up or my hair trimmed is just annoying for me. I've managed to reach 55 looking pretty young, and no gray hair so I've become lazy about hair coloring. 😅
I love skin care, not as much putting on make-up... people are all different both physiologically and psychologically so people need to get over standards, labels, and putting people in boxes.
According to studies the lowest sunscreen prices would be in Canada and the highest in Italy. I am Italian Canadian so let me tell you living in both places I dream at night of government programs subsidizing sunscreen for people or something. They just are expensive everywhere and as a student, sunscreen makes ridiculous part of my budget. People look at me like I'm crazy for buying as much when I'm just part of the few who follows actual dermatologists recommendations, and wearing ugly uv surfing shirts under my shirts to save on $. Especially in Italy where it's a year long sun bath, and where being an unfashionable woman is a crime haha
Another unpopular opinion, I don't think skin cycling is necessary for me. I can get away with alternating between gentle exfoliants (mandelic acid and bha) and retinol every other night. But that might change when I use stronger retinol products, since I started very low
Sunscreens are really expensive in Turkey, especially the ones formulated for face only...
Honestly this whole sunscreen thing is giving me so much anxiety... in my country sunscreens are very expensive and most people simply will not spend money on them.
I'm also concerned about the safety of many of them. Of course it's not a problem if you have money. You can easily buy new organic photostable spf but what if you can't? And you also hate to reapply it because it makes your life so difficult? There's really no adequate solution for that
It's interesting how you mention adhd and soylent this video because soylent is the only way my adhd, sleep disordered, science student, ass manages to get a proper amount of calories and nutrients in everyday T_T
Serious question (I swear, this isn't teasing, I honestly don't know): Do you say "nerdification bell" in the end, or is it just the phonetics of your particular accent? I've been wondering about this, since I first watched your videos^^. I think "nerdification" would be totally fitting your channel aswell!^^. Not a native English speaker!
Yes, she say ”nerdification bell” on purpose. It is a play on words 🤓
Unintentionally early and it’s kind of nice
Thanks Michelle. You have a great weekend.
I feel like the conflation of health and beauty into one category is the absolute worst. It makes it really difficult to judge on a personal level whether you want to use a product when you don't know if the thing it's preventing is dangerous or if people who's opinion you may not share have decided it looks bad.
Yeah, I think it's best dealt with in terms of regulation e.g. sunscreen = medication, moisturiser = cosmetic
I agree with switching to the Metric system!! & I live in USA.
I didn't realise you were a cosmetic chemist. If that's a recent development then congrats! (I've been offline for a while). Are there any dry skin 'influencers' you can recommend?
I understand that expiration dates are estimate at best, but I wish it was mandatory to put a production date on all the products where it's hard to estimate correctly (cosmetics, makeup, etc). A lot of products I have only have a meaningless code (for customers) which, if lucky, you can find somehow listed on some of the checking sites, but not everyone has knowledge how to do that and not all codes are available or correct.
i’ve made a habit of writing the date i’ve opened a product on the product itself with a sharpie
Hey Michelle, thanks for another informative video. Have you tried My.Organics hair care range? If you have done so or would consider trying hair products from My.Organics, what are your takes of their approach to ‘clean’ and ‘organic’ ingredients or overall effectiveness?
For me, who has horrible skin sensitivity issues, who either gets acne or dermatitis for practically all products on the market, paraben free products are a boon. But I'm the exception, not the rule and most people can use products available without suffering the way I did. My choices are way too limited and way too expensive... 😭
It's only recentlt that i found a local brand that caters to the needs of people like me without being overly expensive
I work from home. Do I have to use sunscreen at home with drapes closed?
As an American who has to use SI at work I wish the US would just switch, but I know it never will happen.
I loved this video!!!