Greece wants its art back, Persians, Chinese, South America, Central America (but the glass skull is hella creepy).. moving on most of Africa, Australia by the time this is done.. nothing will be there.
Anything stolen is never fair especially when people and towns were brutally killed to acquire them. But know it that one can never run away from the truth forever and this is why this has come out. After Africans being called thieves for years now we know why. Whatever it is, what is not yours will never be yours
Those pieces of artworks were used to record history. So, what you have there is Benin history. It will not be fully understood until you get people from Benin palace to explain them.
I am a South African and I really love the societies if west Africa. It's a shame that my people are plagued with xenophobia. We need to learn from these people who created these wonderful pieces of art.
Imagine. As if by speaking highly of all they stole, it would somehow make their actions right...Imagine building a multimillion structure, to house stolen civilizations...surely, they have no intentions of handing them back. Olè
Most of those artefacts are nothing more than souvenirs bought by European travelers visiting other continents. Some are probably less than 100 years old, bought in the markets of Africa or Asia. You have no idea about the history of any of those pieces. It is like having a display , which in fact I have, with souvenirs bought during my vacations abroad and being called a thief. As for the Benin bronzes, they were captured by the British army, not by the French, after the Benin ruler ordered the murdering of some English merchants. Such barbarity could not be left unpunished and after the punishing expedition, those bronzes were spoils of war and later some of them were bought by the French.
I keep telling my people don't worry the universe knows where all is and it knows what happen to us you have no worry it all will be the down fall of their world the most high God gave those people an appoint time and after that will come the end of theirworld it's not long
I agree, our ancestors are busy in the West and they are getting busy in Europe. The blood of our ancestors saturates the land, therefore; they never live in peace. I was taught this by my ancestors. Fires and floods keep the white man running up and down the coast.
The real problem is that, if these artworks are not in their home countries, they cannot be part of the historical understandings of the people whose ancestors created them. In turn, this means that they cannot play a part in the people's conception of who they are, what they are capable of and their sense of self respect and equality as human beings. The other main likely outcome is the unflattering racist attitudes which would be engendered in non-Africans, especially those who don't take the time to see the exhibitions. Do you think the thieves don't know these things? Could they be the main reasons they did it?
@@ElusiveCube it's as if the Benin City National Museum doesn't exist to exhibit these as same goes for the many other artifacts currently well preserved in african museums . Art was used as power symbols or ceremonial and representatives of local deities. In your words then Europe is hoarding over glorified door stoppers then. Whats the point of Europe holding onto them when people like you hardly bother to know the items true history. Speaking of arabs and muslims wasnt Isil going around and smashing their artifacts because it's idol worship to them
@@ElusiveCube And yet these museums exist in africa that do contain art- philosophy manuscripts-old writings (while most have been sitting in European Museums and private collections it seems and yet you who say who dont see blacks in museum is just as if not more ignorant) , your lack of knowledge of them doesn't null their existence. Africa has about over 100 world heritage sites from civilizations that didnt have access to Arabian trade. Timbuktu had its scholars, writing, islam isn't a race or an ethnicity but a religious ideology that those in Mali adopted as well just as Europe did with Christianity and Islam itself. You would be naive think that maths, astronomy, scientific method all just come from Europeans without them building up works from other civilizations. Ethically both Benin and Mali empires where still majority Bantu. No region of the word has solely risen to greatness without access to precursor civilization or use of trade or conquest and exploitation so why in the case of Sub Saharan Africa learning from Arab a bad thing while Europe success is due to it's access to the silk road, easier access to Asia and Middle East (including dead empires of Sumerian, Greek, Mesopotamian) and wars. Sub Saharan Africans that started migrating to lower down africa only reaching the tip of Southern Africa in the early 8th-11th century and there werent many people that need conquering as they only encountered the Pygmy in Central Regions of Africa, The Nilotic and Cushitic in East Africa, The KhoiSan in the southern. And Instead of conquer and war most Bantu Assimilated with these groups instead.
@@ElusiveCube I didnt claim Egypt is nor cartage nor Moors as they are more close to Arabic and European. But Mali, Kanem-Bornu, Benin, Sokoto,Songhai (all Sahelian kingdoms where of Bantu with Islamic influence) , Great Zimabwe, the Munhumutapa--- all these are Sub Saharan that bantus can claim. If you haven't heard Youssou N'Dour, Salif Keita, Oliver Mtukudzi, Hugh Masekela, Fela Kuti, Angélique Kidjo, Brenda Fassi then it's a fault of yourself and perhaps because the message they sang about wasnt the one that resonate with your world view and preduices (And I say this again) doesnt negate that they existed nor that they are all world acclaimed. Livingstone was the 1st European to venture into the interior, Africa has always been difficult to venture into, for the Bantu fro the west themselves it was a challenge but had done it in 11th century but cut off from the world they didnt advance as greatly as the civs EuroAsia continent. Modern contact between Africa and Europe started in the late 15th century with Vasco Da Gama and with the ducth settling in Africa in 16th century. Most african Muesums where built Post colonial by Africans themselves. that goes the same for infrastructure as well, like the dam in ghana and the current road network. The infrastructure that existed during colonial was to maximize extraction of resources from interior to ports like during Congo Free State under King Leopold. Accra, Legos, Addis Ababa, Gaborone, Kigali are all Africas cities built and advanced post colonial. The except exist in places like South Africa and Zimbabwe that where white built as they had a more significant White minority. Modern African infrastructure is surpassing that most thanks to Chinese partnership and inter-continent trade like the African Renaissance Dam, South Africa -Mozambique Bridge, And the metro systems of Ethiopia, South Africa and Congo. Achievements in sport for Africans is something you have to be born blind and deaf to miss so wont even touch on that both in America and Africa and Europe. When it comes to technological advancement from africa-- do you really believe that during or pre colonial times that any American or European would have attributed anything to africans (people that they didnt what to see as humans)-- heck for a long time in zimbabwe the Great Zim Stones was attributed to some long lost tribe of whites as you did with Mali or Benin. Here is a good academic read for you that should shed some light (though I doubt you will actually bother) www.unesco.org/new/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/HQ/CLT/pdf/P_Lovejoy_African_Contributions_Eng_01.pdf or (from wiki) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_inventors_and_scientists. They did contribute in science, agriculture, conservation . The narrative of Africa suffering is usually most liked by individuals like you or NGOs that people like Dr. Julie Makani, Maxwell Chikumbutso and Wangari Muta among many others are usually overlooked. Africa isn't perfect but the same disease that plague Africa are the same that once plagued Europe and Asia as well, how lost is history to you that you forget that Europe was once over crowded as well, at constant wars that it even dragged the whole world (twice), that is commited genocides as well, including rape and butchering . But look at now, Most of the fastest growing economies today by real GDP growth rate are in Africa.
@@ElusiveCube museums are predominately built by the majority race of that country and exhibit those from that country so why on the lords earth would you expect that Africans didnt build their own, most in africa where built post colonial as a way to strength afro centric ideas . The irony in Western museums that have african artifacts is that they are poorly curated and lead to misinformation of those pieces origin and context wrongly as you have demonstrated by claiming that african art was used as door stools. Africans in Africa are no under any delusion to the state of their history as it's already learnt from a young age in schools as main a subject and not as a week/month topic like most European or American schools teach it as and has led to a lot of African Americans and individuals such as yourself creating a skewed vision of African history either in support in favor (like when black americans say Egypt was black) or to support existing bias (that africa had not history). African music isnt only rap and maybe this one just for future ref leave it out of your examples of things africans dont do. For your own info there is Jazz, blues, funk, disco, kwaito, hip hop, afrobeat, kwela, kwaito, benga, rock and so so much more. They are great examples of black scientist than Neil as I pointed out in the other comment. but Neil is someone ( like bill nye, Carl Sagan) who has presented himself as trying to educate and excite the public about science, something the science community, the general public needs -- to convey science for everyone and not just other scientist. In an age where science is being over shadowed in almost all fields either by politics or public misconceptions like the earth flat or anti-vax being taken as right over scientific evidence. Other view facts will be over ruled by pseudo -science
@@ElusiveCube is that what you are good at repeating yourself over and over again without actually adding any real value. Careful now your inferiority complex is showing... The bantu did expose from west africa to the southern tip, to the explorers/adventurers that made it all the way to Europe and Asia as well (as blacks where present in Europe and Asia but few and far between pre 15th century) You keep saying things like Muslim art - it isnt an ethnicity but a religious ideology that has been adopted from India, Europe, China, Africa- and so by all account all Renaissance Art is Christian art, doesnt Europe owe its foundations of Maths-Algebra to Arabs scholars as well. There are exhibits of other world cultures and art and history aswell in African museums the only difference is Africans didnt need to steal or rape these but borrowed or bought from other museums. Again your ignorance at them does not negate their existence
@@JohnSmith-ne6js Stop dreaming they will be handed back just the same way you stole it.... Stop living a lie & give back other people's history & go build yours, aren't you tired of destroying the world.... No one likes you the world over cos you aren't different from the devil who came to kill, steal & destroy!
@@CIMAmotor also most of its history it didn’t sell slaves until expansion around the time after a 200 year slave ban Benin began interacting with Europeans again and that led to its downfall after the British exiled and relaxed the king and blew up Benin city and burned it to the ground. Most of benins wealth came from its trade in salt and guinea peppers and gold
They are not ordinary face musk,those bronze are use to keep records of event.theres a street in Benin called "igun" that's where the bronzes are made from the days of the old till now.each artifacts have it's own story,date and year.the bronze can be fully be interpreted by the palace bronze casters because their job is hereditary.real history can never be taught in schools
British Museum: "Hey guys, check out this art work we took from people we murdered, and guess what? We're not going to give it back". #Shameful #Disgraceful
These objects shouldn’t be in western hands at all!!! They don’t even know the meaning of them. The exhibitor appeared to be very ignorant concerning their meaning.
So, the electronics you use to write that message, doesn't belong in an African hand. Give it back to USA or Europe where it was developed, or China where it was manufactured. BTW, TH-cam and the whole technology that let to TH-cam are not African as well, so what are you doing here using Western creations to spit poison against the West?
@@gioseanuandrei5489 ridiculous retort. Electronics have no cultural value. African art deserves to be in the hands of the African people not the colonisers. Simple as.
@@gioseanuandrei5489 who told you it's western technology? let's start with the raw materials used to bring about this so called technology where did the West loot it from? It's like saying you make chocolate but have not a single cocoa leave growing in Europe let alone cocoa tree.
@@gioseanuandrei5489 Electronics!? What an ignorant comparison! Were electronics stolen, was YT stolen by Africans? Stop justifying the theif of these artefacts!!!
@@sydneyhoward3754 Islam was born around 700 AD, and it have spread like wild fires, Islam has very unique and precious art, geometry, astronomy, system of numbers, architecture, and everything in sub sahara is dated ONLY WHEN ISLAM ARRIVED, so around 11th. Century.
If we had our artifacts in our possession, they could be paying us to see our historical ancestry. Black family get you’re boys & girls off the football, basketball fields, & entertainment stages, show them what we were really made of. Royalty
I hate the fact that Europe stole these art work. On the other hand, the deserve to be seen and enjoyed by the world. Unfortunately, that won't happen if they are in Africa. Africans seem to want to hide their achievements. The only ones fighting for recognition of African achievements are those in the diaspora. And we get nothing but criticism from them when we do. But for our ancestors sake, let's keep fighting for our heritage.
That's because those arts or sculptures were not designed for exhibition and money making. We Africans define wealth differently from the west. These are the properties of the people, in the custody of the Oba, which catalogues the heritage and history of the people. It is Europeans that want to see them as a money making tool and exhibit them as trophies of war and pride. You may think its serving a purpose outside of its ancestral lands, but they aren't, cause those artifacts are used for an entirely different spiritual purposes. Once those stuff get back here, you people will see exactly what they are capable of doing...and the thieves knows this and fear of returning them.
They should be prosecuted for handling stolen goods. Given the high culpability of those continuing to retain these works of art the sentence would be 3-8 years imprisonment on conviction.
They should give a percentage of the wealth obtained by having these artifacts to the country there takin from still a great thing there put on display for all to see just share the wealth to those its takin from
The British museum is free to visit, no revenue is made my them. All the art displayed in the British museum if free for the world to see, who would see them if they were locked in a cupboard, or melted down for scrap in Nigeria?
@@CIMAmotor People have to PAY to travel there. If they're from another country, from let's say, AFRICA, they have to PAY for an hotel They have to PAY to eat.....people have to PAY for just getting there, so don't act as if the British Museum is not generating profit for it's country.
It would be interesting to see the crucifix of western culture interpreted as simply a piece of art, rather than as a cultural and anthropological object. Yes, place a crucifix inside a glass cabinet in a museum and invite members of the public to come and view it as simply a piece of art. How many westerners would this enrage and hurt? Ha ha ha
If the countries where these artifacts voted and asked for them back. They should be given back. I am a big believer in that. Elgin marbles should be returned to Greece. Khorinoor diamonds which were given under duress should be given back. However, I am very cognizant of the fact that these museums sometimes saved these cultural heritage from destruction and being lost from memory. That was the case with artifacts ferried to the west, taiwan etc. during China's disorderly years and cultural revolutions. Japanese collectors of Chinese art such as Song dynasty, Tang dynasty etc. were saved from anonymity throughout the centuries because of Japanese appreciation of Chinese culture.
How come you are a Muslim if your ancestors are African. I am not a muslim or Christians I still practice African spiritualism like my African ancestors . We have the same ritual like the early Egyptians. Have u heard of ife empire in nigeria like the benin empire?
at 1:22 un·re·gen·er·ate /ˌənrəˈjenərət/ adjective not reforming or showing repentance; obstinately wrong or bad. "the most unregenerate and irredeemable people you could ever imagine"
Ha, pay to see the Art and build up Nigeria? No way, that would go against their nature!!! Remember, they are Takers not givers! Anything that benefits Africa they have always taken and they are still taking
I was there a few weeks ago. It's fantastic and very respectfully done. They have accomplished the stated objective... I know - the stuff was stolen and that's something that needs dealt with... This can be done thru inter governmental negotiations... Look, let's face it, who's going to Benin or anywhere in Africa to see these things? Really!... Paris is the THE most visited city in the world... Think about it... If the goal is to introduce, inform and foster respectful understanding of older societies, where's a better place than Paris?
Bullshit! The children of Africa need to see their greatness. I don't give a damn about foster respect from people who have a history of belittling Africans. I care that those in the diaspora who were stolen from their homeland understand their ancestors had great kingdoms and those on the continent need to see their history. Who goes to africa? Everybody! We need to boycott everything French...France aint nothing but a bunch of liars, and thieves and murders.
MJ mj Can you see how arrogant you sound? Do you know the spiritual/ cultural significance of these artworks? They are not just works of art- they are documented HISTORY!!. The artworks were the media/photography of the ancient people chronicling important events like festivals, birthdays of kings/queens, battles, visits of dignitaries etc. They recorded history of the people. They are not just for public display to make money off them.. to you Europeans everything is about money.. To Africans, art is a gift that money can t buy; it's priceless
Doesn’t matter about how many will see these works in Paris. The only thing that matters is to return these works of art to Benin where they belong. Slavery and theft and all the millions of black people who have been slaughtered to steal the property of Benin. Disgusting.
MJ Wow! What an entitled personality you have! You think African artefacts should be for the world? I think not! Africans are SPIRITUAL PEOPLE..... It's not about sharing what is personal and spiritual with the world. EVERYTHING is not ALWAYS about money!
She says, “Honestly, it’s a bit Painful to be Deprived of having the Right to have the Final Word on all these Objects.” Gee, poor little girl…. Did someone take your Dollie away?? Those Bad Boys. We’ll get your Dolly back for you… (as long as you can share some of those 1000 franc notes you have in your purse with us.)
A number of these are traded arts not stolen. Commission, traded, and tourist arts. Saying all art is stolen ignores precolonial trading, exploration and interactions that took place before colonization and forced occupation.
These works of art are stollen property from Benin Africa, thousands of men women and children were murdered just over a 100 years ago to steal These works of art and should and must be returned immediately. disgusting.
This is all too funny, I've been to 12 museums in africa, and for the most part all they have is photos of what was once was, and to me they where all sh!# to me but any place north of africa is the place to see Africa's art. Africa can beg all they want but the devil won't give it back.
The more time That passes, the more the need to return them to their origins arise. It has already began, though the devil is dragging it's feets. The pressing need grows each year that passes.
I'd love to see this exhibition, but I guess it's not permanent? I saw a temporary exhib at the british museum which had lost-wax miniatures in gold from benin. I was amazed. Now, I can't find any references. It was a long time ago, and my memory is rubbish, so perhaps they weren't in gold, or they weren't from benin.... anyone help? One worry: if only the most beautiful water-carriers are shown, and the ordinary one's aren't, then that could skew perception of a culture too. Anyway, nice video, thanks, and there's much that's wonderful in african art, music, storytelling....
Ces voleurs pensent qu ils savent tout.Ils ne se rendent pas compte qu ils n auront jamais l ame et la potentialite de l ame africaine.S approprier de l art de tout un Royaume ,Quelle honte pour ces colonisateurs. ?
@@Shortyjored88 Make a study of the situation. I think you will find that the Portuguese early discovered the desire for Bronze, and it became the currency of the slave trade.
A lot of African statues it would take him to Britain and France and other European countries have been art artists work that have been stolen from graveyards introspective maybe kings and queens
Benin antiquities need to be returned to Africa where they belong. The same way Europe is allowed to profit from this art work, is the same way Africa should. Anthropology has nothing to do with it, these items were stolen. All the comments about African keeping artifacts in mud huts just show how ignorant some people are. #returnBeninArt
I'm skimming through some of the comments and yes I hear you however the fact that Europeans are displaying this and calling it art and protecting it as opposed to destroying it does show something. Does it not?
Are you for real?? The main reason is to systematically and negatively displace us and destroy our identity. Do you believe to can speak on these items better than the spirit AFRICA?
The comments are pure cancer. But much respect to the channel for not censoring all comments which destroys any potential for meaningful discussion or dialogue.
(1) Benin people: Give us back our looted/stolen artifacts... >>> (2) Europe: They are ours now, We stole them fairly.
Greece wants its art back, Persians, Chinese, South America, Central America
(but the glass skull is hella creepy).. moving on most of Africa, Australia
by the time this is done.. nothing will be there.
Anything stolen is never fair especially when people and towns were brutally killed to acquire them. But know it that one can never run away from the truth forever and this is why this has come out. After Africans being called thieves for years now we know why. Whatever it is, what is not yours will never be yours
@@cinnamonstar808 hell yeah. and we should unite against terrorist backed by criminal western interests that end up getting museums destroyed.
LoL.
Those pieces of artworks were used to record history. So, what you have there is Benin history. It will not be fully understood until you get people from Benin palace to explain them.
Uh, they're dead.
@@brindlebriar they are still very much alive. It's pass from generation to generation
Oba gha tokpèrè..... isèèè
What a fullish idea from u I was thinking that u ask them to bring back our art u are talking about lecturing them
@@brindlebriar Has British historians death?
And where would you find people from Benin Palace, Eeast-Central Nigeria?
They make shitloads of money off of artifacts that's not even theirs.
I am a South African and I really love the societies if west Africa. It's a shame that my people are plagued with xenophobia. We need to learn from these people who created these wonderful pieces of art.
WE DONT CARE HOW YALL VIEW AFRICANS (NIGERIA SPECIFICALLY), THEY WANT THEIR ITEMS BACK. This whole video is mind blowing.
Imagine. As if by speaking highly of all they stole, it would somehow make their actions right...Imagine building a multimillion structure, to house stolen civilizations...surely, they have no intentions of handing them back. Olè
Most of those artefacts are nothing more than souvenirs bought by European travelers visiting other continents. Some are probably less than 100 years old, bought in the markets of Africa or Asia. You have no idea about the history of any of those pieces. It is like having a display , which in fact I have, with souvenirs bought during my vacations abroad and being called a thief. As for the Benin bronzes, they were captured by the British army, not by the French, after the Benin ruler ordered the murdering of some English merchants. Such barbarity could not be left unpunished and after the punishing expedition, those bronzes were spoils of war and later some of them were bought by the French.
@@gioseanuandrei5489 go and read proper books on Benin's history my friend especially on pre1897 events about Great BENIN Kingdom.
That art needs to be returned back to its home
Of course it looks amazing WE DONT CARE GIVE IT BACK
The spirit of African ancestors is haunting them, and with no time, they will return what's not theirs.
I keep telling my people don't worry the universe knows where all is and it knows what happen to us you have no worry it all will be the down fall of their world the most high God gave those people an appoint time and after that will come the end of theirworld it's not long
I agree, our ancestors are busy in the West and they are getting busy in Europe. The blood of our ancestors saturates the land, therefore; they never live in peace. I was taught this by my ancestors. Fires and floods keep the white man running up and down the coast.
The Ancestors are very active now.
The real problem is that, if these artworks are not in their home countries, they cannot be part of the historical understandings of the people whose ancestors created them. In turn, this means that they cannot play a part in the people's conception of who they are, what they are capable of and their sense of self respect and equality as human beings.
The other main likely outcome is the unflattering racist attitudes which would be engendered in non-Africans, especially those who don't take the time to see the exhibitions. Do you think the thieves don't know these things? Could they be the main reasons they did it?
return them
they should not be in western hands at all .
@@ElusiveCube it's as if the Benin City National Museum doesn't exist to exhibit these as same goes for the many other artifacts currently well preserved in african museums . Art was used as power symbols or ceremonial and representatives of local deities. In your words then Europe is hoarding over glorified door stoppers then. Whats the point of Europe holding onto them when people like you hardly bother to know the items true history. Speaking of arabs and muslims wasnt Isil going around and smashing their artifacts because it's idol worship to them
@@ElusiveCube And yet these museums exist in africa that do contain art- philosophy manuscripts-old writings (while most have been sitting in European Museums and private collections it seems and yet you who say who dont see blacks in museum is just as if not more ignorant) , your lack of knowledge of them doesn't null their existence. Africa has about over 100 world heritage sites from civilizations that didnt have access to Arabian trade. Timbuktu had its scholars, writing, islam isn't a race or an ethnicity but a religious ideology that those in Mali adopted as well just as Europe did with Christianity and Islam itself. You would be naive think that maths, astronomy, scientific method all just come from Europeans without them building up works from other civilizations. Ethically both Benin and Mali empires where still majority Bantu. No region of the word has solely risen to greatness without access to precursor civilization or use of trade or conquest and exploitation so why in the case of Sub Saharan Africa learning from Arab a bad thing while Europe success is due to it's access to the silk road, easier access to Asia and Middle East (including dead empires of Sumerian, Greek, Mesopotamian) and wars. Sub Saharan Africans that started migrating to lower down africa only reaching the tip of Southern Africa in the early 8th-11th century and there werent many people that need conquering as they only encountered the Pygmy in Central Regions of Africa, The Nilotic and Cushitic in East Africa, The KhoiSan in the southern. And Instead of conquer and war most Bantu Assimilated with these groups instead.
@@ElusiveCube I didnt claim Egypt is nor cartage nor Moors as they are more close to Arabic and European. But Mali, Kanem-Bornu, Benin, Sokoto,Songhai (all Sahelian kingdoms where of Bantu with Islamic influence) , Great Zimabwe, the Munhumutapa--- all these are Sub Saharan that bantus can claim.
If you haven't heard Youssou N'Dour, Salif Keita, Oliver Mtukudzi, Hugh Masekela, Fela Kuti, Angélique Kidjo, Brenda Fassi then it's a fault of yourself and perhaps because the message they sang about wasnt the one that resonate with your world view and preduices (And I say this again) doesnt negate that they existed nor that they are all world acclaimed.
Livingstone was the 1st European to venture into the interior, Africa has always been difficult to venture into, for the Bantu fro the west themselves it was a challenge but had done it in 11th century but cut off from the world they didnt advance as greatly as the civs EuroAsia continent. Modern contact between Africa and Europe started in the late 15th century with Vasco Da Gama and with the ducth settling in Africa in 16th century.
Most african Muesums where built Post colonial by Africans themselves. that goes the same for infrastructure as well, like the dam in ghana and the current road network. The infrastructure that existed during colonial was to maximize extraction of resources from interior to ports like during Congo Free State under King Leopold. Accra, Legos, Addis Ababa, Gaborone, Kigali are all Africas cities built and advanced post colonial. The except exist in places like South Africa and Zimbabwe that where white built as they had a more significant White minority. Modern African infrastructure is surpassing that most thanks to Chinese partnership and inter-continent trade like the African Renaissance Dam, South Africa -Mozambique Bridge, And the metro systems of Ethiopia, South Africa and Congo.
Achievements in sport for Africans is something you have to be born blind and deaf to miss so wont even touch on that both in America and Africa and Europe. When it comes to technological advancement from africa-- do you really believe that during or pre colonial times that any American or European would have attributed anything to africans (people that they didnt what to see as humans)-- heck for a long time in zimbabwe the Great Zim Stones was attributed to some long lost tribe of whites as you did with Mali or Benin. Here is a good academic read for you that should shed some light (though I doubt you will actually bother) www.unesco.org/new/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/HQ/CLT/pdf/P_Lovejoy_African_Contributions_Eng_01.pdf or (from wiki) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_inventors_and_scientists. They did contribute in science, agriculture, conservation . The narrative of Africa suffering is usually most liked by individuals like you or NGOs that people like Dr. Julie Makani, Maxwell Chikumbutso and Wangari Muta among many others are usually overlooked.
Africa isn't perfect but the same disease that plague Africa are the same that once plagued Europe and Asia as well, how lost is history to you that you forget that Europe was once over crowded as well, at constant wars that it even dragged the whole world (twice), that is commited genocides as well, including rape and butchering . But look at now, Most of the fastest growing economies today by real GDP growth rate are in Africa.
@@ElusiveCube museums are predominately built by the majority race of that country and exhibit those from that country so why on the lords earth would you expect that Africans didnt build their own, most in africa where built post colonial as a way to strength afro centric ideas . The irony in Western museums that have african artifacts is that they are poorly curated and lead to misinformation of those pieces origin and context wrongly as you have demonstrated by claiming that african art was used as door stools. Africans in Africa are no under any delusion to the state of their history as it's already learnt from a young age in schools as main a subject and not as a week/month topic like most European or American schools teach it as and has led to a lot of African Americans and individuals such as yourself creating a skewed vision of African history either in support in favor (like when black americans say Egypt was black) or to support existing bias (that africa had not history). African music isnt only rap and maybe this one just for future ref leave it out of your examples of things africans dont do. For your own info there is Jazz, blues, funk, disco, kwaito, hip hop, afrobeat, kwela, kwaito, benga, rock and so so much more.
They are great examples of black scientist than Neil as I pointed out in the other comment. but Neil is someone ( like bill nye, Carl Sagan) who has presented himself as trying to educate and excite the public about science, something the science community, the general public needs -- to convey science for everyone and not just other scientist. In an age where science is being over shadowed in almost all fields either by politics or public misconceptions like the earth flat or anti-vax being taken as right over scientific evidence. Other view facts will be over ruled by pseudo -science
@@ElusiveCube is that what you are good at repeating yourself over and over again without actually adding any real value. Careful now your inferiority complex is showing... The bantu did expose from west africa to the southern tip, to the explorers/adventurers that made it all the way to Europe and Asia as well (as blacks where present in Europe and Asia but few and far between pre 15th century) You keep saying things like Muslim art - it isnt an ethnicity but a religious ideology that has been adopted from India, Europe, China, Africa- and so by all account all Renaissance Art is Christian art, doesnt Europe owe its foundations of Maths-Algebra to Arabs scholars as well. There are exhibits of other world cultures and art and history aswell in African museums the only difference is Africans didnt need to steal or rape these but borrowed or bought from other museums. Again your ignorance at them does not negate their existence
Give back the art and build a museum in Nigeria to display it. If you want to see the art, pay to get into the museum and build up Nigeria.
We have Benin National Museum in Nigeria
@@jattojohn7704 is there any artwork there like this?
Look at the money the devil's spent to build a place to hold the stolen artifacts....this hurts man...
Isn't that where it was discovered?
they are eventually going to hand it all over whether they like it or not
Randy paul
Yeah right 😂😂
And how is that going to take place ????
Randy paul
Say what you know not what you wish .
@@JohnSmith-ne6js I'm gonna steal that bih back
@@JohnSmith-ne6js Stop dreaming they will be handed back just the same way you stole it.... Stop living a lie & give back other people's history & go build yours, aren't you tired of destroying the world.... No one likes you the world over cos you aren't different from the devil who came to kill, steal & destroy!
You got a viable plan?
This definitely came from a well cultured and advanced civilization.
Piss off we are well cultured
It came from a culture in which selling slaves was the major income.
@@CIMAmotor
I don't see you complaining about Romans watch slave killing their selves for fun.
@@ibrahimsuleiman8473 Why would I? The video is not about Rome.
@@CIMAmotor also most of its history it didn’t sell slaves until expansion around the time after a 200 year slave ban Benin began interacting with Europeans again and that led to its downfall after the British exiled and relaxed the king and blew up Benin city and burned it to the ground. Most of benins wealth came from its trade in salt and guinea peppers and gold
OMG! They lied to us in school that these Benin bronzes were just "face musk only".
Michael Illonga we let the enemy educate us
They are not ordinary face musk,those bronze are use to keep records of event.theres a street in Benin called "igun" that's where the bronzes are made from the days of the old till now.each artifacts have it's own story,date and year.the bronze can be fully be interpreted by the palace bronze casters because their job is hereditary.real history can never be taught in schools
They Lied all over to the black Race still doing it
Please where is this place in Paris, I am living in Paris I want to visit the museum, because I am from Benin kingdom Nigerian.
They do not even know the meaning of each art other than speculation .After all the negativity and names that was hurled at us as a black people
We need all back to Benin city Nigeria
Give them back to the rightful owners that is the right thing to do.
Please we need all our artifacts back to Benin City Nigeria thank u 🙏
DON'T LET OTHERS TELL YOU WHO YOU ARE. THEY DON'T DESERVE THAT TYPE OF RECOGNITION 💡😶
To hold them in trust!!! I'm so sick of these people thinking black people are fool's! You murder and stole. And still are. I can't!
British Museum: "Hey guys, check out this art work we took from people we murdered, and guess what? We're not going to give it back". #Shameful #Disgraceful
Who exactly did the British museum murder?
These objects shouldn’t be in western hands at all!!! They don’t even know the meaning of them. The exhibitor appeared to be very ignorant concerning their meaning.
So, the electronics you use to write that message, doesn't belong in an African hand. Give it back to USA or Europe where it was developed, or China where it was manufactured. BTW, TH-cam and the whole technology that let to TH-cam are not African as well, so what are you doing here using Western creations to spit poison against the West?
@@gioseanuandrei5489 ridiculous retort. Electronics have no cultural value. African art deserves to be in the hands of the African people not the colonisers. Simple as.
@@gioseanuandrei5489 who told you it's western technology? let's start with the raw materials used to bring about this so called technology where did the West loot it from? It's like saying you make chocolate but have not a single cocoa leave growing in Europe let alone cocoa tree.
@@gioseanuandrei5489 Electronics where not stolen, they where bought when owners brought them to the buyers and sold them. The artefacts where stolen.
@@gioseanuandrei5489 Electronics!? What an ignorant comparison! Were electronics stolen, was YT stolen by Africans? Stop justifying the theif of these artefacts!!!
Wow, amazing art work by an amazing people Africans so creative n artistic.
Yes, the Islamic art in Africa is nice, crude but nice.
@@ElusiveCube
Do they look arab to you.
@@ElusiveCube give Africans their credit
@@ElusiveCube what is Islamic art? has Islam got any art? Islam was born yesterday. these arts are thousands of years old.
@@sydneyhoward3754 Islam was born around 700 AD, and it have spread like wild fires, Islam has very unique and precious art, geometry, astronomy, system of numbers, architecture, and everything in sub sahara is dated ONLY WHEN ISLAM ARRIVED, so around 11th. Century.
If we had our artifacts in our possession, they could be paying us to see our historical ancestry. Black family get you’re boys & girls off the football, basketball fields, & entertainment stages, show them what we were really made of. Royalty
I hate the fact that Europe stole these art work. On the other hand, the deserve to be seen and enjoyed by the world. Unfortunately, that won't happen if they are in Africa. Africans seem to want to hide their achievements. The only ones fighting for recognition of African achievements are those in the diaspora. And we get nothing but criticism from them when we do. But for our ancestors sake, let's keep fighting for our heritage.
That's because those arts or sculptures were not designed for exhibition and money making. We Africans define wealth differently from the west.
These are the properties of the people, in the custody of the Oba, which catalogues the heritage and history of the people.
It is Europeans that want to see them as a money making tool and exhibit them as trophies of war and pride. You may think its serving a purpose outside of its ancestral lands, but they aren't, cause those artifacts are used for an entirely different spiritual purposes. Once those stuff get back here, you people will see exactly what they are capable of doing...and the thieves knows this and fear of returning them.
seeker-of-truth if we dont hide em people steal em
Absolutely incredible !!
They should be prosecuted for handling stolen goods. Given the high culpability of those continuing to retain these works of art the sentence would be 3-8 years imprisonment on conviction.
Lovely Benin Bronzes.
Forgiveness is not forgetful. Remember to regenerate, rejuvenate and rejoice!
These devil's never surprise me.I grab my money when I see them ,the snake is slick.#Never forget.
The money you hold has their witchcraft in it
My grandmother called them devils ever since I was a kid....born 1911 in Augusta, GA
This art is magical . Im so disgusted at the barbaric nature of these folks.
It's average at best.
Then why did you ancestor steal it yt man
Then tell those devil's to return it to us if it's soooo "average"
Yo this is why the younger generation will grow up never respecting elders, because you wallow in lies.
They should give a percentage of the wealth obtained by having these artifacts to the country there takin from still a great thing there put on display for all to see just share the wealth to those its takin from
Homer Hill - That wont happen..these nations are cold..study them..
The British museum is free to visit, no revenue is made my them. All the art displayed in the British museum if free for the world to see, who would see them if they were locked in a cupboard, or melted down for scrap in Nigeria?
@@CIMAmotor People have to PAY to travel there. If they're from another country, from let's say, AFRICA, they have to PAY for an hotel They have to PAY to eat.....people have to PAY for just getting there, so don't act as if the British Museum is not generating profit for it's country.
Why on earth will u keep something u can't explain its original intention? This is called Daylight ROBIN HOOD
Not a word about the FACT they were stolen. I watched to the end and felt like hatching a plan to steal them back. #wrong
Not bad for a continent that was suppose to be uncivilized.
The lie will always be exposed.
The money for this is supposed to go to Benin kingdom in Nigeria
The main question was not answered wether to give them back to the original owners
Beautiful art. Breath taking.
The question is... When France gonna give it back??? Or they want to stole it? As always?
They don't know if they should hide it or try to make money off it.
That mophead said "primitive art"😂😂😂
Chirac, the last good President, at least he gave the artifacts such a respectable place.
I liked Chirac!
RETURN THEIR ART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stolen thing will be judge by thr most hight
It would be interesting to see the crucifix of western culture interpreted as simply a piece of art, rather than as a cultural and anthropological object. Yes, place a crucifix inside a glass cabinet in a museum and invite members of the public to come and view it as simply a piece of art. How many westerners would this enrage and hurt? Ha ha ha
the colonist trophy collection,
The road to hell is always paved with good intention. NOW IT IS TIME RETURN THEM TO THEIR RIGHTFUL OWNER.🔥🔥
Sure like the displays and the pieces really get yes a special status!!
“it’s bold architecture was calculated to attract attention “ >shows giant nondescript glass wall
If the countries where these artifacts voted and asked for them back. They should be given back. I am a big believer in that. Elgin marbles should be returned to Greece. Khorinoor diamonds which were given under duress should be given back.
However, I am very cognizant of the fact that these museums sometimes saved these cultural heritage from destruction and being lost from memory. That was the case with artifacts ferried to the west, taiwan etc. during China's disorderly years and cultural revolutions. Japanese collectors of Chinese art such as Song dynasty, Tang dynasty etc. were saved from anonymity throughout the centuries because of Japanese appreciation of Chinese culture.
Give them back ✊🏿
Yall some looters. Ya'll think it's cool to take our stuff... thats type of evil will fall on your family. Smh
😂6:57 that otherwise is unknown in African art..but your looking at it 🤔
Awesome
Give it all back!!! Now!!!!
Give them back you pink skins
Display of what? Displayed of stolen legancy of our ancestors.
@ϥⲣⲁⲟⲛ They were and still blacks before your ancestors invaded and claim.
You are an albino from black race. I love abino and no offence.
@ϥⲣⲁⲟⲛ if you are an African then why all this noise.
The pharoahs in early Egypt come in different colour mostly dark to mix
How come you are a Muslim if your ancestors are African. I am not a muslim or Christians I still practice African spiritualism like my African ancestors . We have the same ritual like the early Egyptians. Have u heard of ife empire in nigeria like the benin empire?
I wish I knew the names of objects at 1:35
The noses have changed
Yeah men, the nose will soon be broken and latter they will you they are neanthethals I bet
@@vincentugbe6553 🤣🤣🤣, my brother, you are woke. That's how they turned Black Egypt into white Mediterranean cultures. Lie lie people.
European Museum Arts vs African Museum Arts what museum will the European citizens prefer to visit I'm just curious?
You know answer already..
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"the most unregenerate and irredeemable people you could ever imagine"
Ha, pay to see the Art and build up Nigeria? No way, that would go against their nature!!! Remember, they are Takers not givers! Anything that benefits Africa they have always taken and they are still taking
They have to be paying for this every month to the Benin king 🤴
Many must pray that the buildings they store our artifacts in are destroyed. Our ancestors will surely intervene.
I was there a few weeks ago. It's fantastic and very respectfully done. They have accomplished the stated objective... I know - the stuff was stolen and that's something that needs dealt with... This can be done thru inter governmental negotiations... Look, let's face it, who's going to Benin or anywhere in Africa to see these things? Really!... Paris is the THE most visited city in the world... Think about it... If the goal is to introduce, inform and foster respectful understanding of older societies, where's a better place than Paris?
Bullshit! The children of Africa need to see their greatness. I don't give a damn about foster respect from people who have a history of belittling Africans. I care that those in the diaspora who were stolen from their homeland understand their ancestors had great kingdoms and those on the continent need to see their history. Who goes to africa? Everybody! We need to boycott everything French...France aint nothing but a bunch of liars, and thieves and murders.
MJ mj Can you see how arrogant you sound? Do you know the spiritual/ cultural significance of these artworks? They are not just works of art- they are documented HISTORY!!.
The artworks were the media/photography of the ancient people chronicling important events like festivals, birthdays of kings/queens, battles, visits of dignitaries etc. They recorded history of the people.
They are not just for public display to make money off them.. to you Europeans everything is about money..
To Africans, art is a gift that money can t buy; it's priceless
Doesn’t matter about how many will see these works in Paris. The only thing that matters is to return these works of art to Benin where they belong. Slavery and theft and all the millions of black people who have been slaughtered to steal the property of Benin. Disgusting.
MJ Wow! What an entitled personality you have! You think African artefacts should be for the world? I think not! Africans are SPIRITUAL PEOPLE..... It's not about sharing what is personal and spiritual with the world. EVERYTHING is not ALWAYS about money!
Yeah, the "thieves" have a majestic mansion we'll like to visit 🤡
is it for you write your own history is it for you
She says, “Honestly, it’s a bit Painful to be Deprived of having the Right to have the Final Word on all these Objects.”
Gee, poor little girl…. Did someone take your Dollie away?? Those Bad Boys. We’ll get your Dolly back for you… (as long as you can share some of those 1000 franc notes you have in your purse with us.)
U see a display while I see spoils of war death n horror
Stolen from Africa give them back ✊🏿
A number of these are traded arts not stolen. Commission, traded, and tourist arts. Saying all art is stolen ignores precolonial trading, exploration and interactions that took place before colonization and forced occupation.
These works of art are stollen property from Benin Africa, thousands of men women and children were murdered just over a 100 years ago to steal These works of art and should and must be returned immediately. disgusting.
All the commentators on here about stolen African art, these were made using European bronze, they were traded with Europe, not stolen
Give them back to who they belong to you stole them give give them back they don't don't belong to you
This is all too funny, I've been to 12 museums in africa, and for the most part all they have is photos of what was once was, and to me they where all sh!# to me but any place north of africa is the place to see Africa's art. Africa can beg all they want but the devil won't give it back.
The more time That passes, the more the need to return them to their origins arise. It has already began, though the devil is dragging it's feets. The pressing need grows each year that passes.
IM SO SICK OF WHTE PEOPLE GIVE US BACK OUR STUFF WHY IS EVERYTHING SO COMPLICATED WITH YOU. God.
This is not a complicated matter if you are praying to the right God, the God of our ancestors, and not the White mans God.
Wth Europeans see all this and disrespect AFTICANS?????
Give Africa back the artifacts that you stole!!!!!!
What is not returned to the owner, would return with
the consequences of trauma. Covid-19 is only the beginning !!
Ancient robber
The best place for them is back we’re they came from museum are zoos put France in them
I'd love to see this exhibition, but I guess it's not permanent? I saw a temporary exhib at the british museum which had lost-wax miniatures in gold from benin. I was amazed. Now, I can't find any references. It was a long time ago, and my memory is rubbish, so perhaps they weren't in gold, or they weren't from benin.... anyone help? One worry: if only the most beautiful water-carriers are shown, and the ordinary one's aren't, then that could skew perception of a culture too. Anyway, nice video, thanks, and there's much that's wonderful in african art, music, storytelling....
Yes, but destruction and theft brought them to where they are now.
Yes but destruction and theft brought them to Britain
This is sad. We are still in the victorian era.
Ces voleurs pensent qu ils savent tout.Ils ne se rendent pas compte qu ils n auront jamais l ame et la potentialite de l ame africaine.S approprier de l art de tout un Royaume ,Quelle honte pour ces colonisateurs. ?
As I understand it, these sculptures were made from metal supplied by the Portuguese, making them much newer than thought.
Nope these were not bronze supplied by outsiders. African is full of natural resources and that is why European had to come in an plunder it.
@@Shortyjored88 Make a study of the situation. I think you will find that the Portuguese early discovered the desire for Bronze, and it became the currency of the slave trade.
@@Shortyjored88 Bronze is not a "resource", it is an alloy. Africans desired it and the Portuguese were able to do it in quantity.
@@warringtonfaust1088 you guys sold the brooze and african created a piece of art with it, at list we didn't steal the broonz from Portugal
Africans were forging with iron and bronze centuries before Europe. They were master metallists.
A lot of African statues it would take him to Britain and France and other European countries have been art artists work that have been stolen from graveyards introspective maybe kings and queens
Send them home to Benin
why that Fucc do you still have it. That's ridiculous
unbelievable
Stolen goods on display
I hope the spirits of all your wickedness and cruelty that you have dished out to African people aunt your generation for the rest of their life.
As a man soweth, the same shall he also REAP.
This is the "Divine Law" of the Universe, that America is now beginning to see !! 🤔🤔🤔
Those objects are all heavy and toting
So, the French stole priceless treasures from Antiquity only to stash in a closet, because they don't know how to display it . 😡
Benin antiquities need to be returned to Africa where they belong. The same way Europe is allowed to profit from this art work, is the same way Africa should. Anthropology has nothing to do with it, these items were stolen. All the comments about African keeping artifacts in mud huts just show how ignorant some people are. #returnBeninArt
I'm skimming through some of the comments and yes I hear you however the fact that Europeans are displaying this and calling it art and protecting it as opposed to destroying it does show something. Does it not?
THIEVES, don't they have any ancient culture of their own? Um NO.
Are you for real?? The main reason is to systematically and negatively displace us and destroy our identity. Do you believe to can speak on these items better than the spirit AFRICA?
Please stop name them collections named them for what are stolen arts.
C'est dommage que l'occident refusel' importance de l' afrique dans la vie de l' europe.
Their secret societies and lodges, are designed to discuss and master
the "Hidden Arts" from Africa !!
This planet=Korea heritage...
The comments are pure cancer. But much respect to the channel for not censoring all comments which destroys any potential for meaningful discussion or dialogue.