Absolutely a total disgrace heavy smoke showing the first engine goes past a fire hydrant and sits with no water, watching a house burn and no one is doing anything at all, ... poor leadership.... ..
And as usual at most fire scenes the police arrive first, park all of their vehicles everywhere making it hard for the FD to park their apparatus where they need to be. Then they just stand around watching the fire just like any other rubber-necker would do. Stop doing that !!!
Remember those cops are highly paid and all the Fire Fighters just give their service for nothing. Many times they have to go door to door to ask for money to even keep the fire service going. Maybe some of those cops might think of helping out rather than standing around bull sh-ting with each other on the publics tab.
It's elsewhere too and not just fires. Crashes. Something that pisses me off beyond all others is what happens in a town nearby me. The cops literally fly to crash scenes (crashed 15 of their vehicles in the past 3 years in 6 square miles) and the first thing you hear on the radio is them calling the plate and license ID number. The county numerous times has got upset and refused to give them their information until they confirmed if there are injuries and performed first aid. They've ripped people out of cars that were pinned. With possible neck injuries. It's sickening. But you do not speak out about it. Or else. And in this video, they could have helped drag that 5 inch hose. Or pulled some help the firemen do something. No, they harassed someone safely taking a video and were a nuisance otherwise. Yet they wonder why their view by the public is so bad.
I have been a firefighter for 32 years in Victoria Australia. All first responding trucks carry on board water to begin a fire fight. Second truck supplies the first and runs aid to supply the first to a hydrant. Priority is to get water on the fire immediately then , rescue, cover exposures, and contain and extinguish.I Can not watch a video like this where everyone stands around apparently doing nothing.
Used to be on a rural volunteer FD, we had a 3000 gal tanker that would go to any structure fire and then a 750 gal pumper, we would call for mutual aide for 2 other tankers if needed, we had no hydrants. Trained with a FD with hydrants and learned the "take the hydrant forward lay" method. A fire truck with no water does not do much to put out a fire. It seemed an awful long time for water on the fire. Hope some lessons were learned by that.
@@lewistasso8866 I have watched a number of fire videos here. On many of them, this one included, the firefighters stand around watching the fire and not doing anything while the fire just gets worse There seems to be no sense of urgency. Eventually the hoses come out and they get around to fighting the fire, but by now the house is totaled. Seems to me that the first engine on the scene should be a tanker so they can immediately start fighting the fire instead of waiting for hoses to arrive, hydrants found and connected.
@@michaeljarosz4062 Yes!! Exactly!! Everyone and their pets show up to the fire like a "pizza work party." Then 1 person decides to do something (after an hour) and the other 3 dozen just watch.
@@dennis1825 I know! There were more cops than in a doughnut shop! There is plenty of work for police in Brick. The whole force does not have to show up. It wasn't a 12-floor high rise with dozens of media and people.
Water goes on fire, fire goes out. The average engine carrys 750-1000 gallons of water. We use to knock down a fire with less than 500 gallons. Took to long in my opinion.
Training on doing a forward lay in. Way too much time spent on establishing a water source. A blitz attack with tank water would knock down a good bit of fire. Video would be a great training tool on what not to do
Looking at that first truck and the line on the D side charged but not flowing says they had minimal tank water to begin with. I’m always curious when I see new trucks delivered with 500 gal tanks - 1 125/gal line depletes that in 4 mins
@@ronjohnson1800 all of our engines at my department are 500 gallons! With 2000gpm pumps ! 500 gallons is plenty for most house fires ! If you have a good response time . We have plenty of hydrants in my area . If it’s past 2 rooms involved!! It’s gonna be a loss !! But we have only had 1 total loss that I can remember in 20 years! The rural setting is much different!! 1000 gallon tanks are at a minimum with tankers in tow !! Much longer response times and more than likely volunteers are responding!! The majority of stuff is fully involved anyway upon arrival!! Putting water on it is for show at that point! But that’s what the public wants to see . These guys look like a career department. They should have planned for this type of call . Could have got water somewhat quicker I would think!! But I wasn’t there lol I know some departments are so good with a tanker shuttle that they can do better than hydrants !!
Looks like the 1st in dumped their tank on the blue line at the AC corner? Tank was empty by looking at the lights on the rear of the cab. If they dropped a line as 1st due, truck and other units would be stopped.
At least 2 million dollars of fire equipment initially on scene and about a dozen fire fighters. Over 5 minutes to establish a water supply in a hydranted area. Well you be the judge.
It seems like almost every structure fire in this corner of youtube is mostly people in firefighter gear watching the structure burn and letting it grow out of control.
I wonder if there's an inverse correlation between the amount of flashing lights on an appliance and the ability to get water on a fire quickly? It seems like the brigades that have lights on every surface and in multiple layers always take the longest to start fighting the fire.
The worst part it´s that they even didn´t need to stablish a water supply. The 500 gals on board will suffice for an overwhelming discharge, with 250 gals at 500 gpm, in 30 seconds the fire intensity will be down in 90%...but it´s clear that, additionally, the pump operator nor the deckgun man were convinced about what they do...the "save the water" mind has done lot of damage....
That first arriving company had no idea what to do!! Unbelievable!! They were just walking around looking at each other. Terrible leadership and firefighting tactics.
I was a firefighter 10 years in a dept near Brick and now live in Brick and it deeply concerns me having a house here the more videos I see of Brick's fire companies.
The first thing I was taught is that you can't do anybody any good if you don't get there safely. It would appear that they got that one right. The second thing I was taught was that the wet stuff goes on the red stuff. That one - not so much.
I think it's fully involved. By the way, the storm trooper that felt the need to move you back a quarter mile was just stroking his ego. That's the kind of cop we don't need on the street.
It would be nice to know why the first in truck could not get water flowing out the nozzle until after the next units arrived. Another thing they should have done after they knocked the fire down was vent the roof because you can see how hot it is in the attic space or at least in the top floor and the heat needs to be vented.
Why on earth would you even think of getting on a roof of a building that has already had a very well vented fire, thats how you get people killed and seriously injured for no reason.
Man, the debriefing after this burn down must have been brutal. Gotta get water way faster on that one boys. They need Fire Fighting 101 from Stockton (CA) Fire Department.
Here’s an awesome training video! Everyone on scene should be forced to watch it repeatedly in weekend meetings with no coffee or donuts allowed until they get it right!
I have to believe there is some reason, we can't see in the video that this fire dept waited so long to put water on the fire. It seems impossible to me anyone could be that horrible at fire fighting
Lots of comments about lack of water from the 1st due. If you look at the lights flashing on the back of the cab, they are showing an empty tank. Also, the blue hose on the front right (AD) corner looks like it has water in it meaning it was flowed so I'm assuming they used all their water in this line. If it was a 2-1/2" I could kind of understand it but not if it was smaller. The deck gun is the much better option with this much fire. Maybe they used both?
I never cease to be amazed by how the LEO's love to clog up the scene around the fire building with their cars, which usually have to be moved so fire apparatus can reach the scene. Nice video Ryan!
Just to stand there and watch it burn. I’ve seen 1 person hand jack 3hundo before and a crew should be able to do more then that especially when you’re literally just standing there waiting because you wanted to bypass a hydrant when I’m sure the column was seen from the station
@@dalerider3124 Rural homes do not pose high risk exposers like you see here. Can you see how close the houses are in this neighborhood and how narrow the streets? They have hydrants but took their sweet time accessing them.
NOT A RURAL FIRE. That engine has water on it use it. The hydrant is less than 200 feet away hook it urself waiting for another truck pump is ridiculous
Painful to watch as these incompetent amateurs stand there watching a house burn. Their lack of enthusiasm and lack of water is a disgrace. We could have done better with our garden hoses.
What exactly are they going to save? The structure is already fully involved by the time the video even starts. You're coming out of the gate with 2 priorities.....fight it from a defensive posture, and maintain a collapse perimeter for firefighter safety.
@@chris71mach1 It's called, "Doing your JOB!" Something is burning! You JOB is to extinguish it quickly and safely while using the least amount of water. Do You own property? Do you have things in your basement or attic or back rooms that hasn't burned yet and have the firefighters say, "Well this is a total loss. I'll just hang out and watch it burn."?
Great job as always...just a side note...that cop that chased ya back is a ass...you weren't in anyone's way...and what is up there in Brick with taking so long to get water on that fire....did them boys forget all their training....WOW...
Don't know which is worse, firefighters standing around doing nothing while waiting for water to somehow appear or the police blocking the street and giving you a hard time,
them Police officers should have had the street block at the end that about it not bee in every ones way and give people a hard time i mean if was video to close i think a fire fighter who'd say some thing
We need to develop and use tactics to deal with structure fires that have vented like this. It would have been worth it for the first due, to lay in from the hydrant and operate the deck gun immediately to upset the fire while 3-4, 3” hand lines with straight bore nozzles are deployed. Police, and first arriving non-aerial units must leave a path and place for your aerials. Also, use a butterfly valve on your hydrant for a second lay and/or have 2nd or 3rd due secure a second water supply source. Big fire, big water, as quick as you can; transition to smaller hand lines after the knock down.
Aerials are, for the most part, a useless waste of money and because they are such fun toys for these children to play with, they get parked front and center. Right in the way of Firefighting apparatus.
This makes no sense to me. First engine could’ve pulled in and started up with the deck gun. Second engine in should catch the plug and drops the supply line. This video made this department look like a bunch of rookies. They all need to be trained. Whomever is in charge of training needs to be fired.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse Right you did say that in the video. Nobody picked it up. I'm thinking the first due thought the second crew was right behind them to lay in. Communication issue with first crew not finding out ETA with the status of the second crew could of layed in but shit happens and we all screw up from time to time. Easy to sit here and critique I was too watching the video but when you are there in real time sometimes everything goes out the window. Just my two cents.
TO EVERYONE COMMENTING ABOUT HOW LONG IT TOOK TO GET WATER ON THE FIRE.......they ALREADY dumped their tank before the cameraman got there! See the 4 blinking lights at the back of the fire engine cab? The water tank is EMPTY ALREADY! What they did need to due was lay a supply line on the way into the scene, so they could hook up to a water supply while initial attack was made. See smoke? Lay in!
32 years as a vollie. As someone pointed out, first due engine should have seen the column of smoke and acted accordingly. I don't know what the hydrant situation is like in Brick, they could be few and far apart, so i cannot judge why certain decisions were made. But as I see it, and as we train in my dept: 1. 1st due engine drops LD Feeder line at the hydrant and moves up the street, around corner, and past the structure. Chauffer and officer should have responded as such when they saw the uphill climb to the scene; they should have an understanding of where the next hydrant would be down that street. 2. First due engine starts stretching 2 lines immediately. 3. second due engine takes the hydrant, in-line pumps to the first due to establish a water supply. 4. First due truck should position at the corner, cab out, to be able to cover A and D sides as well as roof, but 7503 and possibly 7511 were in the way; looks like power lines are on the same side of the street as the structuere. 5. third due engine should take a hydrant from other end of street, if there is one within the length of its LD feeder, and feed into the aerial and stretch a third line. We had a Mcmansion fire years ago, set back 50 feet or more from the street; wood frame, 60x120 house. 1st due engine steamered the hydrant just past the house, dropped 2 2.5" lines. First due quint dropped its own LD at a hydrant before the scene, moved up onto the property. 2nd due engine dropped its LD at the 1st due and inlined from a further hydrant, 3rd due engine inlined to the 1st due truck from the hydrant where it dropped its feeder. 3 hydrants feeding, plus two more on the opposite street behind the house for 2 more engine companies.
Exactly what I say. I know the truck had to have some water on board so why not start using it while your men are laying a hydrant since they were too stupid to do it coming in.
He states in the video they used their tank of water before he arrived. Problem was second unit in didn't get there soon enough. Thus the water issue Easy for us to say the first truck in should hit the hydrant, but the thinking is probably to get a search done and use what is in the tank to support that. I'm no pro, I don't know.
@@mgratk Don't feed the Trolls. They eat their own on these videos. They are a disgrace to their profession as they criticize their brothers and sisters in the service.
Why didn't that first Engine drop a line so they could have water instead of waiting for another engine to arrive? Way too much time getting water on that fire! Sometimes these videos make firefighters look like the Keystone Cops. And great job blocking access for that ladder truck.
4-6 fire trucks 20 fire personnel on scene and not an ounce of water on the fire and it took forever........??? The house will be a total loss, they should have just let it burn since it took so long to get water on it.
Too painful to watch. One engine in totally in front of structure, just to watch it burn because of no water, second engine coming in doing exactly what the first engine should have done, and now you have a tower ladder coming in that could have been useful for aerial attack, but instead is now back three trucks and has no use.
They could've came from another call and didn't get a chance to fill. Not every department is perfect and even the "perfect" departments make mistakes. Shit happens in the fire service. If people think they can do better they are more than welcome to join.
Yeah i didn’t see an exposure issue either, at least not from the video angle anyway. And other comment is about right, you’re a civilian at the moment so video from a safe distance and not impede into the scene. I mean go to a local fire department and get permission to film and photograph and you won’t have a problem. Most north Jersey and big city photographers have permissions to be there.
No, he was not that close, and doing an important job reporting on the fire conditions. Moving him back had no relevance to the operations and also means that the fire trucks kept passing in front and obscuring the view.
The departments appreciate the footage around here they also use it for training the cops just doing there job. I get it, but I also always stay distance and I’m very aware.
Is the house fully involved? I cant tell if it's fully involved. I wish someone would tell us if it's fully involved. The video doesn't show if it's fully involved. Please tell us if it's fully involved. I need to know if it's fully involved.
As a firefighter almost finished with junior fire school this video is everything they teach you not to do. House got away from them because of no training. They have millions of dollars in equipment that they don't know how to use. My department can do better with our 1988 engine.
You said “ as a firefighter ALMOST finished with JUNIOR fire school??? And your posting a comment about “house got away from them because of no training” ??? I’m glad I’m about to retire cause I couldn’t deal with todays youth and Stupidity….
Junior fire school? Is that a junior high school class? Until you are in their boots, you don’t know jack. Man, I am glad that I retried last May. Dealing with snowflakes nowadays is impossible. Good luck with junior fire school.
Why do these Cops constantly think they are doing anything remotely good by getting there 1st and parking cars blocking access. Street was narrow as is. Then stand around playing pocket pool. Time and time again this is seen. Their job is crowd control and blocking streets from rubber neckers . not the rigs
They move the cars if they have to. It’s their job how about you just move the fuck on and stop trying to tell other people how to do a job you have zero knowledge about.
I was one of the people that called the guy I was with kicked in the door we didn't hear anybody inside. Hopefully everyone was out. It went up in like 3 minutes, crazy how fast. It was bubbling the paint on ladies house next door and blew the powerline above from the heat.
eh, the power lines take a shit if the wind blows wrong 😆 I work on the infrastructure.. you're giving it too much credit saying the heat causes it to fail 😆
Not sure what the SOG is but it should be revised. You can put a lot of fire out with a master stream and 500 gallon single engine. Not sure what the water supply issue was but it’s a shame to see no water being applied.
Why do American firefighters take so long to fight a fire they seem to have a committee meeting before they even get the hoses out of their trucks we're here in New Zealand they get the hose out and straight in i dont know if it is a health and safety thing but i get frustrated at watching these vids and seeing firefighters just ambling along with no urgency while someone's house burns down as i say here in NZ in house fires the first Engine to arrive gets the hose out and straight in the house to fight the fire. And no firefighters stand around and do nothing.
THANK YOU HERBERTSVILLE F.D. for protecting the home next door. Everyone wants to get to the BIG FIRE THING and the innocents structures on either side get taken out in the interim……. GOD BLESS THE Baltimore FF’s, 1 who is critical and 3 who needlessly lost their lives, today in a building they should never have been in to begin with. Stay Safe and Hug your families tight…
NO water for first 5 minutes of video.Does it remind you of the station near Trenton that was shut down or suspended for the same thing? I started in a small Middlesex county deparment back in the 70's and even with hydrants in most places we had a converted tanker that was donated to us by another department that took 10,000 gallons of water to every fire. It came in handy especially with us being surrounded by woods in part of the pine barrens. Even today that department is still one of the lowest funded in the state and gets most of their trucks thru donations from other departments. Back then we had 2 brush trucks,a 1959 Ford Tasc, A utility truck and the tanker. Many times we started putting water on the fire from our 2 one ince brush truck lines until the Ford got there becaus e the 2 brush trucks (converted military jeeps, 1 reel line each and 225 gallons of water would get there first.
This was extremely difficult to watch. You have to move like it’s your shit that’s on fire, and people not doing that seems to be a recurring theme in a lot of these burn down videos.
I've been watching a lot of these videos lately with a different fires I don't understand why it takes them so long to run the water lines and start putting the fire out it seems like they wait and wait for the fire to get really big and then decide to put it out I don't understand it makes no sense to me
So we got a ton of apparatus for one engine and deck gun for a single dwelling fire? Yeah this is why I left NJ. Waste of taxpayer dollars to have a bunch of stand arounds when two lines and a deck gun with PROPER plug lay in woulda done. They risked extension taking too long to get water on.
Fully involved is just that… once it is fully involved with will continue to be fully involved till they knock it down. The excitement of the fire got to you
What I'd like to know is why they had all those PD vehicles clogging up what little bit of street was available? Regardless of the 1st due engine's situation; the 2nd due should be able to supply an ample amount water upon arrival. Unless of course if they can't get in because the entire town's PD is blocking up the whole thing. Once we get there, they're only needed for traffic control and hamper firefighting efforts with vehicles parked all over. I can't speak to the 1st due's issue; I wasn't there. The house was gone anyway, but not being able to get a ladder or a squad up there would be a bigger problem. What a circus.
Here all fire brigade soldiers doing great jobs.. Work is dangerous, but they never back... Always on front.. lot of salute for this all fire brigade soldiers...
I don’t get it… E71 is front and center and it looks to me like it has a supply line into the left pump panel, but the supply line is dry. The LED lights on the cab are showing green, which means it has a full tank…. So why no water? Pump failure maybe?
Absolutely a total disgrace heavy smoke showing the first engine goes past a fire hydrant and sits with no water, watching a house burn and no one is doing anything at all, ... poor leadership.... ..
Yeah, they needed to fire up the deck gun much faster, reduce the heat in order to protect the exposures. Poor showing.
Why did it take so long to put water on the fire , Sad
I couldn't agree more! Fire after fire on TH-cam reveals this same thing; firemen standing idle until water becomes available.
are any of you fire responders?
Good to know all you TH-camrs are so perfect but have never done the job once. You judge fire departments from one video with no other facts.
And as usual at most fire scenes the police arrive first, park all of their vehicles everywhere making it hard for the FD to park their apparatus where they need to be. Then they just stand around watching the fire just like any other rubber-necker would do. Stop doing that !!!
Remember those cops are highly paid and all the Fire Fighters just give their service for nothing. Many times they have to go door to door to ask for money to even keep the fire service going. Maybe some of those cops might think of helping out rather than standing around bull sh-ting with each other on the publics tab.
It's elsewhere too and not just fires. Crashes. Something that pisses me off beyond all others is what happens in a town nearby me. The cops literally fly to crash scenes (crashed 15 of their vehicles in the past 3 years in 6 square miles) and the first thing you hear on the radio is them calling the plate and license ID number. The county numerous times has got upset and refused to give them their information until they confirmed if there are injuries and performed first aid. They've ripped people out of cars that were pinned. With possible neck injuries. It's sickening. But you do not speak out about it. Or else. And in this video, they could have helped drag that 5 inch hose. Or pulled some help the firemen do something. No, they harassed someone safely taking a video and were a nuisance otherwise. Yet they wonder why their view by the public is so bad.
Good thing no one realized that that would have been a great time to rob a couple banks in that town!
Luckily you were too busy watching the police while the squad was blocking the tower ladder from getting into position to get their basket up….
@@timb8373
or giving tickets for drivers weaving in their own lane to avoid the potholes and deteriorating pavement. Yes, that has happened!
I have been a firefighter for 32 years in Victoria Australia. All first responding trucks carry on board water to begin a fire fight. Second truck supplies the first and runs aid to supply the first to a hydrant. Priority is to get water on the fire immediately then , rescue, cover exposures, and contain and extinguish.I Can not watch a video like this where everyone stands around apparently doing nothing.
This truck dumped it’s on board water tank before I arrived
Love the term "fully involved" to describe guys standing around.
Lots of nice equipment, too bad no one knows how to use it.
Yes...you are kinda rudish.
Looking under the Supply hose bed 1/2 dozen times isn’t going to get the hose to hydrant. If I lived in that town I would be concerned.
@@andrewmassey6601 👈👈🤡🤡They would be concerned if you lived in their town. Just what they need....a know it all.
The Bling Bling seems to matter most, All The Gear, No Idea seems the mantra of US FD's
@@DasArab Your fires are much easier to fight because your buildings are small, old and crappy.
Used to be on a rural volunteer FD, we had a 3000 gal tanker that would go to any structure fire and then a 750 gal pumper, we would call for mutual aide for 2 other tankers if needed, we had no hydrants. Trained with a FD with hydrants and learned the "take the hydrant forward lay" method. A fire truck with no water does not do much to put out a fire. It seemed an awful long time for water on the fire. Hope some lessons were learned by that.
I have no faith in the Fire Depts in this area. They might as well have just let it burn itself out.
@@lewistasso8866 I have watched a number of fire videos here. On many of them, this one included, the firefighters stand around watching the fire and not doing anything while the fire just gets worse There seems to be no sense of urgency. Eventually the hoses come out and they get around to fighting the fire, but by now the house is totaled. Seems to me that the first engine on the scene should be a tanker so they can immediately start fighting the fire instead of waiting for hoses to arrive, hydrants found and connected.
Yeah that was bad sad and little embarrassing
Also what’s up with all the cops There was more cops than fire fighters at one point
@@michaeljarosz4062 Yes!! Exactly!! Everyone and their pets show up to the fire like a "pizza work party." Then 1 person decides to do something (after an hour) and the other 3 dozen just watch.
@@dennis1825 I know! There were more cops than in a doughnut shop! There is plenty of work for police in Brick. The whole force does not have to show up. It wasn't a 12-floor high rise with dozens of media and people.
Water goes on fire, fire goes out. The average engine carrys 750-1000 gallons of water. We use to knock down a fire with less than 500 gallons. Took to long in my opinion.
Yes but, that's if you give a damn.
Vollys.
I know why they kept shooing you away. They didn't want you recording what a lousy job they were doing!
Smoke showing and they don’t drop a supply line? Embarrassing and dangerous. Great video
Yeah they needed to fire up the deck gun a bit faster there. Reduce the heat to reduce the risk to the exposure.
Training on doing a forward lay in. Way too much time spent on establishing a water source. A blitz attack with tank water would knock down a good bit of fire. Video would be a great training tool on what not to do
Looking at that first truck and the line on the D side charged but not flowing says they had minimal tank water to begin with. I’m always curious when I see new trucks delivered with 500 gal tanks - 1 125/gal line depletes that in 4 mins
@@ronjohnson1800 all of our engines at my department are 500 gallons! With 2000gpm pumps ! 500 gallons is plenty for most house fires ! If you have a good response time . We have plenty of hydrants in my area . If it’s past 2 rooms involved!! It’s gonna be a loss !! But we have only had 1 total loss that I can remember in 20 years! The rural setting is much different!! 1000 gallon tanks are at a minimum with tankers in tow !! Much longer response times and more than likely volunteers are responding!! The majority of stuff is fully involved anyway upon arrival!! Putting water on it is for show at that point! But that’s what the public wants to see . These guys look like a career department. They should have planned for this type of call . Could have got water somewhat quicker I would think!! But I wasn’t there lol I know some departments are so good with a tanker shuttle that they can do better than hydrants !!
Looks like the 1st in dumped their tank on the blue line at the AC corner? Tank was empty by looking at the lights on the rear of the cab. If they dropped a line as 1st due, truck and other units would be stopped.
At least 2 million dollars of fire equipment initially on scene and about a dozen fire fighters. Over 5 minutes to establish a water supply in a hydranted area. Well you be the judge.
I totally agree. .top of the line fire equipment sitting and watching the house burn ....poor command,
It seems like almost every structure fire in this corner of youtube is mostly people in firefighter gear watching the structure burn and letting it grow out of control.
Nice estimate, you are only a few million bucks off.
I wonder if there's an inverse correlation between the amount of flashing lights on an appliance and the ability to get water on a fire quickly? It seems like the brigades that have lights on every surface and in multiple layers always take the longest to start fighting the fire.
The worst part it´s that they even didn´t need to stablish a water supply. The 500 gals on board will suffice for an overwhelming discharge, with 250 gals at 500 gpm, in 30 seconds the fire intensity will be down in 90%...but it´s clear that, additionally, the pump operator nor the deckgun man were convinced about what they do...the "save the water" mind has done lot of damage....
That first arriving company had no idea what to do!! Unbelievable!! They were just walking around looking at each other.
Terrible leadership and firefighting tactics.
in finland firemen knock the fire out quickly but those idiots only watch when house is burning they´re most helpless firemen in word
Noted: Don''t live in the Herbertsville Fire District if you want to have a house after a fire.
The neighbors were lucky as well 😳
All they need is a backhoe to respond so they can fill it in when they are done. 😊
I was a firefighter 10 years in a dept near Brick and now live in Brick and it deeply concerns me having a house here the more videos I see of Brick's fire companies.
Why?
The first thing I was taught is that you can't do anybody any good if you don't get there safely. It would appear that they got that one right.
The second thing I was taught was that the wet stuff goes on the red stuff. That one - not so much.
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The wet stuff goes on the red stuff. That’s gold 😂🤣
I think it's fully involved. By the way, the storm trooper that felt the need to move you back a quarter mile was just stroking his ego. That's the kind of cop we don't need on the street.
We bet a crossing guard yelled at you in Third Grade. Are we right?
@@RLTtizME, I bet your boyfriend gives it to you in the old chocolate starfish.
@@gregggoss2210 You seem aroused Gregg Gross.
@@RLTtizME,only if I can give you a pearl necklace.
It would be nice to know why the first in truck could not get water flowing out the nozzle until after the next units arrived. Another thing they should have done after they knocked the fire down was vent the roof because you can see how hot it is in the attic space or at least in the top floor and the heat needs to be vented.
VVing is the most stupid tactic ever created for firefighting.
Tank was empty by the time the video got there
Why on earth would you even think of getting on a roof of a building that has already had a very well vented fire, thats how you get people killed and seriously injured for no reason.
This guy's content is amazing. A lot of people don't realize how much effort he puts into making these great videos. Great job my friend
Man, the debriefing after this burn down must have been brutal. Gotta get water way faster on that one boys. They need Fire Fighting 101 from Stockton (CA) Fire Department.
Even Stockton has made mistakes on fires. No department is perfect.
Isn't going to be brutal if nobody knows what they are doing and should be doing.
Tank was empty.
@@jeffpitoniak Guess what? It shouldn't have been.
Why is everyone just standing around!?? Here’s another case of the “mother may I’s” in action. Stop waiting to be told what to do and get to work!
Here’s an awesome training video! Everyone on scene should be forced to watch it repeatedly in weekend meetings with no coffee or donuts allowed until they get it right!
I have to believe there is some reason, we can't see in the video that this fire dept waited so long to put water on the fire. It seems impossible to me anyone could be that horrible at fire fighting
And the fire is hard to put out cause it is deadly
You have to put the water on the fire. This was hard to watch Seriously. WOW
The bigger the fire is the harder it is to put out
Lots of comments about lack of water from the 1st due. If you look at the lights flashing on the back of the cab, they are showing an empty tank. Also, the blue hose on the front right (AD) corner looks like it has water in it meaning it was flowed so I'm assuming they used all their water in this line. If it was a 2-1/2" I could kind of understand it but not if it was smaller. The deck gun is the much better option with this much fire. Maybe they used both?
I never cease to be amazed by how the LEO's love to clog up the scene around the fire building with their cars, which usually have to be moved so fire apparatus can reach the scene. Nice video Ryan!
Here they don't even go unless called and the chief tells them where to go
LEO's?
@@thomascochran8669 Law Enforcemet Officers
@@thomascochran8669 Law Enforcement Officers (police, sheriff etc.)
Yeah, but it’s even worse when the F.I.D.C.S.R.W.T.T.T.O.Z.A.73.H.L.Os. arrive on scene and make everyone’s job a lot harder.
Another concrete basement saved!
Is it possible the first truck in could have grabbed that Hydrant? A lot of valuable time lost.
Just to stand there and watch it burn. I’ve seen 1 person hand jack 3hundo before and a crew should be able to do more then that especially when you’re literally just standing there waiting because you wanted to bypass a hydrant when I’m sure the column was seen from the station
Could have also gone off booster tank water while supply is being established...
Take a total disregard sweetie. Thanks for posting.
Great footage as always. Did Herbertsville drop the ball on the water supply? Seemed like getting water took forever
THIS IS ONE OF THE HUGE PROBLEMS OF RURAL building of homes and dwellings, apartments, etc.
The structure was already gone, of what I saw when the arrived?
@@dalerider3124 not a rural fire
@@dalerider3124
Rural homes do not pose high risk exposers like you see here. Can you see how close the houses are in this neighborhood and how narrow the streets? They have hydrants but took their sweet time accessing them.
NOT A RURAL FIRE. That engine has water on it use it. The hydrant is less than 200 feet away hook it urself waiting for another truck pump is ridiculous
Painful to watch as these incompetent amateurs stand there watching a house burn. Their lack of enthusiasm and lack of water is a disgrace. We could have done better with our garden hoses.
LMMFAO
Do you think people who could have been CEO's or brain surgeons sign up to be window breakers and water squirters?
What exactly are they going to save? The structure is already fully involved by the time the video even starts. You're coming out of the gate with 2 priorities.....fight it from a defensive posture, and maintain a collapse perimeter for firefighter safety.
@@chris71mach1 It's called, "Doing your JOB!" Something is burning! You JOB is to extinguish it quickly and safely while using the least amount of water. Do You own property? Do you have things in your basement or attic or back rooms that hasn't burned yet and have the firefighters say, "Well this is a total loss. I'll just hang out and watch it burn."?
Great job as always...just a side note...that cop that chased ya back is a ass...you weren't in anyone's way...and what is up there in Brick with taking so long to get water on that fire....did them boys forget all their training....WOW...
Family watching everything burn with everyone casually walking around while the house burning away & no water being sprayed.
Thanks for the play by play and using the technical terms of the job in your descriptions.
Don't know which is worse, firefighters standing around doing nothing while waiting for water to somehow appear or the police blocking the street and giving you a hard time,
them Police officers should have had the street block at the end that about it not bee in every ones way and give people a hard time i mean if was video to close i think a fire fighter who'd say some thing
So what you’re saying is it’s fully involved?
We need to develop and use tactics to deal with structure fires that have vented like this. It would have been worth it for the first due, to lay in from the hydrant and operate the deck gun immediately to upset the fire while 3-4, 3” hand lines with straight bore nozzles are deployed. Police, and first arriving non-aerial units must leave a path and place for your aerials. Also, use a butterfly valve on your hydrant for a second lay and/or have 2nd or 3rd due secure a second water supply source. Big fire, big water, as quick as you can; transition to smaller hand lines after the knock down.
Aerials are, for the most part, a useless waste of money and because they are such fun toys for these children to play with, they get parked front and center. Right in the way of Firefighting apparatus.
This makes no sense to me. First engine could’ve pulled in and started up with the deck gun. Second engine in should catch the plug and drops the supply line. This video made this department look like a bunch of rookies. They all need to be trained. Whomever is in charge of training needs to be fired.
1.3/4 was pulled on arrival used whole tank they never got a supply do they ran out. That’s when I got there.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse Right you did say that in the video. Nobody picked it up. I'm thinking the first due thought the second crew was right behind them to lay in. Communication issue with first crew not finding out ETA with the status of the second crew could of layed in but shit happens and we all screw up from time to time. Easy to sit here and critique I was too watching the video but when you are there in real time sometimes everything goes out the window. Just my two cents.
Great effort on your part,not so on fire department.They just realized you have to pull the hose off the truck.
TO EVERYONE COMMENTING ABOUT HOW LONG IT TOOK TO GET WATER ON THE FIRE.......they ALREADY dumped their tank before the cameraman got there! See the 4 blinking lights at the back of the fire engine cab? The water tank is EMPTY ALREADY! What they did need to due was lay a supply line on the way into the scene, so they could hook up to a water supply while initial attack was made. See smoke? Lay in!
This was my house, I sold it 2
Weeks before this, it’s devastating to watch.
Yeah they burned that place to the ground. My condolences
You were lucky you sold it
32 years as a vollie. As someone pointed out, first due engine should have seen the column of smoke and acted accordingly. I don't know what the hydrant situation is like in Brick, they could be few and far apart, so i cannot judge why certain decisions were made. But as I see it, and as we train in my dept:
1. 1st due engine drops LD Feeder line at the hydrant and moves up the street, around corner, and past the structure. Chauffer and officer should have responded as such when they saw the uphill climb to the scene; they should have an understanding of where the next hydrant would be down that street.
2. First due engine starts stretching 2 lines immediately.
3. second due engine takes the hydrant, in-line pumps to the first due to establish a water supply.
4. First due truck should position at the corner, cab out, to be able to cover A and D sides as well as roof, but 7503 and possibly 7511 were in the way; looks like power lines are on the same side of the street as the structuere.
5. third due engine should take a hydrant from other end of street, if there is one within the length of its LD feeder, and feed into the aerial and stretch a third line.
We had a Mcmansion fire years ago, set back 50 feet or more from the street; wood frame, 60x120 house. 1st due engine steamered the hydrant just past the house, dropped 2 2.5" lines. First due quint dropped its own LD at a hydrant before the scene, moved up onto the property. 2nd due engine dropped its LD at the 1st due and inlined from a further hydrant, 3rd due engine inlined to the 1st due truck from the hydrant where it dropped its feeder. 3 hydrants feeding, plus two more on the opposite street behind the house for 2 more engine companies.
Fully involved or fully destroyed? I'm going with the latter in this case.
I've never seen a fire response so uneager to get water flowing. Use the tanks while 2nd due lays the hose.
Did it make you want to go to the bathroom?
Exactly what I say. I know the truck had to have some water on board so why not start using it while your men are laying a hydrant since they were too stupid to do it coming in.
He states in the video they used their tank of water before he arrived. Problem was second unit in didn't get there soon enough. Thus the water issue Easy for us to say the first truck in should hit the hydrant, but the thinking is probably to get a search done and use what is in the tank to support that. I'm no pro, I don't know.
@@mgratk Don't feed the Trolls. They eat their own on these videos. They are a disgrace to their profession as they criticize their brothers and sisters in the service.
I would have dumped the tank on it through the deck gun. but I probably would have been smart enough to lay a supply line into just saying.
Great coverage brother!
Why didn't that first Engine drop a line so they could have water instead of waiting for another engine to arrive? Way too much time getting water on that fire! Sometimes these videos make firefighters look like the Keystone Cops. And great job blocking access for that ladder truck.
4-6 fire trucks 20 fire personnel on scene and not an ounce of water on the fire and it took forever........??? The house will be a total loss, they should have just let it burn since it took so long to get water on it.
Too painful to watch. One engine in totally in front of structure, just to watch it burn because of no water, second engine coming in doing exactly what the first engine should have done, and now you have a tower ladder coming in that could have been useful for aerial attack, but instead is now back three trucks and has no use.
Larry, Moe, Curly anyone. Didja forget about the tank on the pumper? Get your handline going and start making progress right away.
Yeah, "Get the tools!" What tools? The tools we have been using for the last 20 years. OH, those tools, OK.
I don't understand, the first engine in carried no water? Isn't it sort of standard for engines to have a water reserve?
They could've came from another call and didn't get a chance to fill. Not every department is perfect and even the "perfect" departments make mistakes. Shit happens in the fire service. If people think they can do better they are more than welcome to join.
Yeah i didn’t see an exposure issue either, at least not from the video angle anyway. And other comment is about right, you’re a civilian at the moment so video from a safe distance and not impede into the scene. I mean go to a local fire department and get permission to film and photograph and you won’t have a problem. Most north Jersey and big city photographers have permissions to be there.
No, he was not that close, and doing an important job reporting on the fire conditions. Moving him back had no relevance to the operations and also means that the fire trucks kept passing in front and obscuring the view.
The departments appreciate the footage around here they also use it for training the cops just doing there job. I get it, but I also always stay distance and I’m very aware.
it's Brick, the PD is civil service... enough said
You can photograph / video from any public right of way as long as you are not impeding operations in any way.
@@dalewiley1756 100% correct .
Great video as usual bro!!!!
Is the house fully involved? I cant tell if it's fully involved. I wish someone would tell us if it's fully involved. The video doesn't show if it's fully involved. Please tell us if it's fully involved. I need to know if it's fully involved.
I explained it was
Those fire trucks would have an easier time moving around if there weren't a billion cop cars parked in the way.
As a firefighter almost finished with junior fire school this video is everything they teach you not to do. House got away from them because of no training. They have millions of dollars in equipment that they don't know how to use. My department can do better with our 1988 engine.
You said “ as a firefighter ALMOST finished with JUNIOR fire school??? And your posting a comment about “house got away from them because of no training” ??? I’m glad I’m about to retire cause I couldn’t deal with todays youth and Stupidity….
Junior fire school? Is that a junior high school class? Until you are in their boots, you don’t know jack. Man, I am glad that I retried last May. Dealing with snowflakes nowadays is impossible. Good luck with junior fire school.
Lol @Mr Wilson… we agree hahah snowflake is an understatement 😂😂
Why do these Cops constantly think they are doing anything remotely good by getting there 1st and parking cars blocking access. Street was narrow as is. Then stand around playing pocket pool. Time and time again this is seen. Their job is crowd control and blocking streets from rubber neckers . not the rigs
They move the cars if they have to. It’s their job how about you just move the fuck on and stop trying to tell other people how to do a job you have zero knowledge about.
I was one of the people that called the guy I was with kicked in the door we didn't hear anybody inside. Hopefully everyone was out. It went up in like 3 minutes, crazy how fast. It was bubbling the paint on ladies house next door and blew the powerline above from the heat.
Did the hero shut the door after he opened it?? If not he directly contributed to it’s rapid growth by introducing more oxygen... strong work.
eh, the power lines take a shit if the wind blows wrong 😆
I work on the infrastructure.. you're giving it too much credit saying the heat causes it to fail 😆
@@justinfinn6850 I’m not sure it happened so fast
@@kevin_nagle well the flame actually hit it from the left side of the house not just the heat and it blew the line, was wild
@@justinfinn6850 was probably in flames a minute after not sure if that woulda helped
I hope they carry a lot of water on those patrol cars?
Not sure what the SOG is but it should be revised. You can put a lot of fire out with a master stream and 500 gallon single engine. Not sure what the water supply issue was but it’s a shame to see no water being applied.
Dumped the tank on the first floor and b side exposure, had to hand jack the hydrant
Good footage!!! Good aerial and infored, too!
If your backup is longer than 5min out Tag those hydrants boys, few things suck worse than running out of 💧
awesome commentary and video .... well done
When a hose was unpacked, the booth burned down, unbelievable...6 fire engines and everyone is watching.
Why do American firefighters take so long to fight a fire they seem to have a committee meeting before they even get the hoses out of their trucks we're here in New Zealand they get the hose out and straight in i dont know if it is a health and safety thing but i get frustrated at watching these vids and seeing firefighters just ambling along with no urgency while someone's house burns down as i say here in NZ in house fires the first Engine to arrive gets the hose out and straight in the house to fight the fire. And no firefighters stand around and do nothing.
No tank water? How do you approach that much fire and smoke, and not lay in?
The cohesive flux valves usually take care of the flow. You missed that in the video. PAY ATTENTION!
@@RLTtizME I guess that was funny!
@@michaelmonaghan2717 You are somewhat slow. Have you always been that way?
What's with all the criticism?? This was a 'dry' run for when the real thing comes along.
THANK YOU HERBERTSVILLE F.D. for protecting the home next door. Everyone wants to get to the BIG FIRE THING and the innocents structures on either side get taken out in the interim……. GOD BLESS THE Baltimore FF’s, 1 who is critical and 3 who needlessly lost their lives, today in a building they should never have been in to begin with. Stay Safe and Hug your families tight…
Yea well they can do that while trying to put out the fire lol
Bad day for Baltimore FD
Ptl. Knehr needs to calm down at 2:25. Needs to relax. Take it easy, it's a house fire.
Easier and safer than hassling actual criminals.
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK.............
Glad someone got the plug!! Might be going to work, Nobody else is working this fire!!
Water on the fire LOL
What do they have against the first engine in tagging the hydrant?
NO water for first 5 minutes of video.Does it remind you of the station near Trenton that was shut down or suspended for the same thing?
I started in a small Middlesex county deparment back in the 70's and even with hydrants in most places we had a converted tanker that was donated to us by another department that took 10,000 gallons of water to every fire. It came in handy especially with us being surrounded by woods in part of the pine barrens.
Even today that department is still one of the lowest funded in the state and gets most of their trucks thru donations from other departments. Back then we had 2 brush trucks,a 1959 Ford Tasc, A utility truck and the tanker. Many times we started putting water on the fire from our 2 one ince brush truck lines until the Ford got there becaus e the 2 brush trucks (converted military jeeps, 1 reel line each and 225 gallons of water would get there first.
No rush to find water. Lots of beautiful $$$$$ trucks though!
This was extremely difficult to watch. You have to move like it’s your shit that’s on fire, and people not doing that seems to be a recurring theme in a lot of these burn down videos.
Welcome to the USA!
How many times will you call the obviously fully involved structure fire fully involved
Poorly trained volunteer department. Obviously a working fire and the first in engine doesn't drop a supply line from the hydrant ????. Pittaful.
Interestingly the thermal images shows all the roofs are in dire need of insulation. And not just the roofs. Energy must be cheap.
Was it fully involved?
put on a reflective vest, hard hat, boots so you don't stick out like a sore thumb
lol
First in should have grabbed the hydrant. Never be 1st in without a water supply
This fire departmart was the worst. I cant believe it took so long to put out the fire.. All the firemen were standing around and watching.
The fire was fully involved not so sure about the fire fighters
Didn't they have tank water to use on the 1st arriving engine?
I've been watching a lot of these videos lately with a different fires I don't understand why it takes them so long to run the water lines and start putting the fire out it seems like they wait and wait for the fire to get really big and then decide to put it out I don't understand it makes no sense to me
Seems to take a GB long time for the FD to start putting out the fire
So we got a ton of apparatus for one engine and deck gun for a single dwelling fire? Yeah this is why I left NJ. Waste of taxpayer dollars to have a bunch of stand arounds when two lines and a deck gun with PROPER plug lay in woulda done.
They risked extension taking too long to get water on.
horrible apparatus placement totally blocked out the tower rule number 1 first engine pull past leave room for the truck on side A
Fully involved is just that… once it is fully involved with will continue to be fully involved till they knock it down. The excitement of the fire got to you
Great footage! 👍 😎
What I'd like to know is why they had all those PD vehicles clogging up what little bit of street was available? Regardless of the 1st due engine's situation; the 2nd due should be able to supply an ample amount water upon arrival. Unless of course if they can't get in because the entire town's PD is blocking up the whole thing. Once we get there, they're only needed for traffic control and hamper firefighting efforts with vehicles parked all over. I can't speak to the 1st due's issue; I wasn't there. The house was gone anyway, but not being able to get a ladder or a squad up there would be a bigger problem. What a circus.
2 or 3 police maybe needed not half the force.
Here all fire brigade soldiers doing great jobs.. Work is dangerous, but they never back... Always on front.. lot of salute for this all fire brigade soldiers...
I don’t get it… E71 is front and center and it looks to me like it has a supply line into the left pump panel, but the supply line is dry. The LED lights on the cab are showing green, which means it has a full tank…. So why no water? Pump failure maybe?
At 2:26 what did officer say????😕😕😕😕😕
He's got bigger ears than Dr. Fraud Fauci!
These guys need a lot more practice laying up to a fire
I am sorry guys but I used a colander to figure how long it took to get water on the fire. There had to be some issue we didn’t see on the video.
I'm trying to understand why it takes a long time for water to be sprayed
Booster tanks have been known to supply enough water for a quick knock down with a well trained crew using nozzle discipline
I've been in that section of Brick before... Some of it looks familiar... Not on that particular street, nor near the house involved, though...
Woud it not be an idear to send a tanker on the first alarm when it is known that there is no local hydrant o
Volunteer fireman or paid fireman that watches these videos
Profesjonalna akcja strażaków haha. GZ from Poland ;)
Hey i.m a medic in the UK MUST AGREE WITH TIME DELAY IN WATER ISSUE
But you are from the UK...and well........