Better, Best or the VERY best! Lathe Cut Off made EASY!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ม.ค. 2022
  • I thought I had the best method but this better. This is the best cut off blade holder I have ever used! This is modeled after the original spring type Armstrong blade holder but adapted to a quick change tool holder. The blade style used is a PN3 style amzn.to/3uap64P Measured Drawings coming soon!
    Parting off Lathe

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  • @prettynitty0131
    @prettynitty0131 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    well it's a lathe th-cam.com/users/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.

  • @michaelsteakley1331
    @michaelsteakley1331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    An essential basic principle of welding often neglected by welders that I have seen on TH-cam, is to bevel one or both of the items to be welded. You welded a fillet weld and then removed most of it, leaving only what limited amount of penetration was created. Simply griding a bevel on the edge of the square stock produces a groove weld, which will be much stronger.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, and I knew better. Thanks. After making the video I installed a couple screws just to prevent failure. I'll be posting an updated version with plans tomorrow if you're interested. It's also welded but the weld size is not an issue and I also provided a relief for better penetration.

  • @mshaw290808mi
    @mshaw290808mi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once again thank you Winky for inviting all of your friends from around the world to come and visit with you in your shop, always enjoyable! I always enjoy learning something new.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your welcome... however, I made a second and it doesn't work as well and I'm not sure why. I'll figure it out and post my results. Thanks

  • @bain5872
    @bain5872 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The important thing to remember about old timers is that they have crossed this bridge long before you got to it. The best way to cross it has already proved itself.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Certainly this is true most the time.

  • @normcameron2316
    @normcameron2316 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it too. That's just great, I can see an end to my parting off problems soon.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully, be sure and watch part 3

  • @skipgoryews1356
    @skipgoryews1356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very well done ! thanks for the schooling ! Skip

  • @sky173
    @sky173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great idea. I always have issues cutting off on my lathe. I'll have to give this a try. Thanks for sharing.

  • @peterparsons3297
    @peterparsons3297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like it, i have had many mishaps parting, broken parts, broken tools, i like the look of this, a project may be on the cards

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be sure and watch the following videos. I have a better design that is easier to make

  • @daviddazer2425
    @daviddazer2425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fine project!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Dave. Hey, something weird. I made a second tool like this and it chattered terrible and I could not figure out why... so I made a new design. It works great and it's much easier to make. I guess these things happen for a reason.

  • @hawknives
    @hawknives 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess Armstrong knew what they were doing.
    Excellent!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. I have another video too. It has a better design th-cam.com/video/s9qcd5-wj3c/w-d-xo.html

  • @arfamortis1
    @arfamortis1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a CVA 1A lathe (1960), it has the best cut off attachment point ever. the cross slide has a dovetail on top at the back so you can run a second toolpost or in my case I run a 1/8th inch Armstrong parting tool on it upside down permanently. It's the most rigid set up I've ever used on a lathe of this size. I have 50 years experience as a machinist/engineer and taught shop in a major UK university for 15 of those years.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Running on the back side like that is great. My lathe is not really set up for that. Reverse is also good but a screw on chuck is a problem in reverse.

    • @arfamortis1
      @arfamortis1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop Running it upside down at the back means you don't reverse for cutting, the bonus is the swarf just falls down into the tray.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arfamortis1 Exactly, my lathe can not run in reverse AND it can not mount the tool on the back side. The cross slide is not sent up for it.

  • @oh8wingman
    @oh8wingman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You may have been better off to cut a small 1/2" relief on the back of the tool and then use countersunk screws run into threads in the tool. The relief would take the torque and the screws would hold it tight.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you are talking about bolting the bar on I absolutely agree. Bolt it in a slot maybe 3/32 deep.

    • @PaulCade
      @PaulCade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @karlchristoffer1275
      @karlchristoffer1275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PaulCade Me too! 👍

    • @idontwantachannel3091
      @idontwantachannel3091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      (after watching the video) ... putting the 1/2" square bar in a shallow slot and retaining the bar with csk screws - instead of welding.

    • @arloames4517
      @arloames4517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or try keyhole welding. Drill holes in either part and weld them together through the holes.

  • @panosgiannosdiy1085
    @panosgiannosdiy1085 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect cut .

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be sure and watch next video... its a better design

  • @JourneymanRandy
    @JourneymanRandy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally I understand why that was designed like that. I never heard an explanation. You did a nice job making that.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks... I'll post a slightly better version and drawings Friday.

  • @andyZ3500s
    @andyZ3500s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang Winky that was a great video. You are definitely right about the guys who came before us being clever. I had a feeling that there was going to be a second YEE -- HA with the results that you achieved. Showing the concept behind it with the paper cut out was very effective.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Andy! I can't figure out why the design got lost.

  • @thaumaturgicresearchcounci4180
    @thaumaturgicresearchcounci4180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've got one of those Armstrong cut off holders, languishing in a drawer since I got my qctp. I'll have to break it out and have a go. Interesting vid, thanks Winky!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool. Let me know how it does.

    • @thaumaturgicresearchcounci4180
      @thaumaturgicresearchcounci4180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I dug it out and indeed it's an Armstrong but I guess an earlier model with no split, although the shape is similar with a tall section behind and above the blade. I could probably modify it with a split and to make it fit a qctp holder. No way would I go back to using the lantern holder that it's designed for!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thaumaturgicresearchcounci4180 - They made one called a Goose Neck that basicly did the same thing. Maybe that's what you have.

  • @terryk3118
    @terryk3118 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No matter how carefully I plan, there's always something I overlook. Comforting to see you do this as well. I like your work. Nice video work too. Thanks.

  • @kerrywil1
    @kerrywil1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    another great on Mark

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you think so! There are two follow up videos with with an updated design if you're interested. They are easier to make and work better too.

  • @MrPhatNOB
    @MrPhatNOB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got one of these when I bought an old Colchester Student. Originally I left it in the bin of parts ect that came with the lathe. I knew it was a parting tool holder, but I had carbide insert part off tools so I assumed it was redundant.
    After snapping so many inserts and breaking a holder I was getting frustrated and assumed the lathe was too old and worn out to do parting properly.
    After seeing this video and recognising the tool, I immediately tested it (HSS BLADE) and wow!! It just works beautifully! No grabs, smooth cut, even power feed!
    Medium lathe speed, slow cross slide feed, it just works so well.
    I have learnt not to assume now. Thank you very much for your content!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it amazing that these methods get lost?

  • @zvonibab
    @zvonibab 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am impressed to. and I like it too!

  • @charleskutrufis9612
    @charleskutrufis9612 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Works better than any I've tried. Thanks for the video

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear. There is another video with a better tool and a link to the plans in the description.

  • @tonyc.4528
    @tonyc.4528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea and build!

  • @oldowl4290
    @oldowl4290 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fantastic. Thank you.

  • @stylianos4570
    @stylianos4570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing!!!!
    Thanks for sharing again!!!

  • @DeathTollRacing
    @DeathTollRacing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. I like that!

  • @Pappaoh
    @Pappaoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy cow! That turned out great. I'm inspired to build my own after seeing your results.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wait a week or two. I made a second and it doesn't work as well and I'm not sure why. I'll figure it out and post my results. Thanks

  • @rightwinggunslinger1
    @rightwinggunslinger1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Going on the to do list

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope to have the drawings posted in about a week. Thanks

  • @MattysWorkshop
    @MattysWorkshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gday Winky, this new parting tool works a treat, all the theory adds up, great job mate, Cheers

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except I made a second one and it chatters??? Can't seem to figure out why... but I will. Thanks

  • @kevinunderwood2931
    @kevinunderwood2931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s good thinking and good work, well done and thanks for sharing Mark.

  • @edmedlin2936
    @edmedlin2936 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work and a very interesting tool design. I notice your accent, sounds like home to me. Maryland or Pennsylvania, maybe Virginia. I bought another lathe a few weeks ago and have been accumulating some of the odds and ends I "need" for my small hobby type jobs. Already I miss my old, much bigger and more powerful lathe. Such is life. Thanks for the video, you made everything very clear so that anyone could replicate that tool holder.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ed, the next video highlights a better version.

  • @dlfabrications
    @dlfabrications 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Job well done!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The next video is a better design if you are interested.

  • @samdunston6296
    @samdunston6296 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its on my list, thank you

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A new easier to make design will be posted tomorrow if you are interested. Thanks!

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great cut off tool build there mr. Winky. Thanks for the video.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You bet! I hope you are feeling better!

  • @robertwalker7457
    @robertwalker7457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work, thanks for that.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your welcome, I'll be posting an updated version with the plans tomorrow. It works great and it's also easier to make.

  • @dannywilsher4165
    @dannywilsher4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks awesome Winky!!!

  • @philipdevonald1273
    @philipdevonald1273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice project.

  • @nashguy207
    @nashguy207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like it works pretty good!!

  • @f.g.hammer6814
    @f.g.hammer6814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW! This is for me the answer to cut off with a small lathe. Thanks

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your welcome... the plans will be posted next weeks so check back

  • @sierraspecialtyauto7049
    @sierraspecialtyauto7049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang it. Another tool to build. Thanks a bunch.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your welcome. I'll post the plans next week.

  • @kencurtis508
    @kencurtis508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks for sharing.

  • @dcraft1234
    @dcraft1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool project. Tom Lipton showed an Armstrong cutoff being used and pushing it till it flexes. Did what it was designed to do.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I could feel this flex a little but could not see it. I don't think my 1/2 HP lathe could flex it that much but obviously it's doing what it is supposed to do. I think I saw that video.... maybe 3 to 5 years ago.

    • @deemstyle
      @deemstyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wasn't able to find any OxTool video showing a cut off, but I did find this one which is very relevant: th-cam.com/video/KETVR9qtEmY/w-d-xo.html

    • @deemstyle
      @deemstyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Mr. Pete show an Armstrong gooseneck holder which is the same concept: th-cam.com/video/9y0MmvscBzg/w-d-xo.html

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deemstyle Thanks for the link. I remember seeing those Gooseneck holders before but never thought about why they were made like that. You are right, it has the same effect. I sometimes get chatter cutting threads and acme threads are almost imposible! I see another tool holder in my future! Thanks!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deemstyle - I remember seeing that video a few years ago. I wanted to see it used! Oh well... still a great video. I think I may make one for threading. Acme threads are a pain. I'll bet this tool would work great!

  • @hitoortega1616
    @hitoortega1616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. !!!!!!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks... there will be a new version posted Friday. It's easier to make and works well.

  • @joell439
    @joell439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks great ....... I'll add that to my todo list! Thanks for the info 👍👍😎👍👍

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a second one and it chatters bad and I can't figure out why. I'll figure it out but right now I'm stumped. I'll do a follow up. Maybe I'll have a more predictable design.

  • @Okie-Tom
    @Okie-Tom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worked very nice! Gotta make myself on of these!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've had some problems duplicating this tool but for now here's another video I made on cutoff th-cam.com/video/HGAQHjzgs9c/w-d-xo.html

  • @donaldnaymon3270
    @donaldnaymon3270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Nice work. Great design. Thank you for sharing.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, be sure and watch the follow up video

  • @peterpocock9062
    @peterpocock9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked your vertical sawing attachment. Very nifty. Also you did a great job of explaining your PT approach. Thankyou.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Be sure and check out the next follow up videos on the tool.

  • @rexmyers991
    @rexmyers991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. Thanks for sharing, Winky

  • @RAYAR54
    @RAYAR54 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark, that was a nice little project and worked as expected, nice and smooth. Will have to keep that design in mind.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll have a new design out Friday with some plans. The new design works better and it's a lot easier to make.

  • @donmadere4237
    @donmadere4237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome pretty cool!!! Thanks

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Don, How's that beast of a lathe holding up. Hope your doing well.

  • @paulkapala2960
    @paulkapala2960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job Im Amaised! Winky

  • @douglaspierce7031
    @douglaspierce7031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just might have to make one, this is awesome

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Douglas. I actually have a new design that's easier to make and works a little better. The video will be posted tomorrow along with the plans. Thanks (2/4/22)

  • @gjkozy
    @gjkozy ปีที่แล้ว

    The feed rate was impressive. Nice job!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! The following video shows a newer version.

  • @Rustinox
    @Rustinox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a good idea. I should give it a go one of these days.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I made another one and it doesn't work as well. Weird huh? I'll figure it out.

  • @fna-wrightengineering
    @fna-wrightengineering 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome work! Been following your parting exploits, and I agree this is the best one yet. I think I'll be replicating this somehow, for my 7X mini lathe. Cheers!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wait about a week. I just made a second one and it's not working as well. It's identical for the most part. I'll figure it out.

  • @TheRecreationalMachinist
    @TheRecreationalMachinist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like that! Thanks for sharing 👍 🇬🇧

  • @ssboot5663
    @ssboot5663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it!

  • @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391
    @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just made a swan neck parting off tool from a piece of carbide tipped circular saw blade, much easier to make and it worked quite well.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's super cool. Do you have a video?

    • @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391
      @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WinkysWorkshop Sorry, no; when I said "I just made.." I was referring to the simplistic method of construction, rather than meaning recently, it was probably 20 years ago. I don't even think I still have the tool, I think someone chucked it in a clear-out. I used a green grit grinding wheel in a Dremel type tool to put a little dip in the carbide tip to "crimp" the chips (so they are narrow enough not to jam in the grove ) this also seemed to work well.

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something else I gotta build, great video winky, keep'um coming..

  • @leonadeau2849
    @leonadeau2849 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a couple of the Armstrong cut off tools and they have served me well. I really like your idea and will be making some. Great idea

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a second one and it doesn't work as well. Apparently I got lucky. I'll figure it out and post a second video. You might want to wait and see what I come up with. Thanks!

    • @chrisstephens6673
      @chrisstephens6673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Were you still using power feed with the second. If speeds and feeds are correct, power feed gives a more equal load on the tool, hand feeding can be hit or miss allowing variable flex and cut.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisstephens6673 - Yeah... I always use autofeed. I made a new holder design this morning. The same concept but much easier to make and works perfect. Video on Friday... plus plans.

  • @dogphlap6749
    @dogphlap6749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. I started watching this saga on the second video, then the third but now having watched the first I at last understand the reasoning behind this design. Obvious in hindsight but I needed to be walked through the idea as this video does. Much appreciated.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you went back. I probably should have repeated he info in part one in the second video.

  • @paulgreenlee190
    @paulgreenlee190 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am impressed as well!!!. Too bad we aren't neighbors, I could easily teach you to weld since that was my primary profession for 40 years. I was a welding instructor. You could fine turn my machining. Great video down to earth and not complicated at all. Thanks so much.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll have a new design with plans posted Friday. I'd love to have welding lessons! Ha Thanks for the thought!

  • @rjserra5535
    @rjserra5535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Learn something new every day. Interesting cut off tool holder. Regarding the welding, consider putting a generous chamfer on the square stock prior to welding. It will create a v-groove where the square stock lays up against the main body of the tool holder. Then you can weld into the v-groove and not worry about cutting off your weld later to provide good fit to the holder.

    • @brucke23
      @brucke23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What I was thinking too.....

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I knew better on the weld. I'll have an updated version of the tool out Friday. It will be way easier to make.

  • @trollforge
    @trollforge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting project Mark!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I was surprised how well it works.

  • @tiredoldmechanic1791
    @tiredoldmechanic1791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We had those Armstrong tool holders in high school shop class where almost everything was military surplus from WWII. The lathes and mills had brass plates stating they were US government property on loan to the school.

  • @jeffanderson4979
    @jeffanderson4979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well shoot, that works well.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a second and it didn't work as well... So far I'm not sure why! But I will figure it out. thanks for watching.

  • @ronkennedy213
    @ronkennedy213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wicked sharp idea. I also struggle with cutoff tool use so I will be looking for the drawings. Thanks

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will be surprised but it will be a good one.

  • @arvidjedlicka6237
    @arvidjedlicka6237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anxiously await the plans and material recommendations. Thanks.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unless something comes up I'll post a short video and the plans next Friday. Thanks for watching.

  • @stefankrimbacher7917
    @stefankrimbacher7917 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job! Many greetings from Austria.

  • @BurtonsAttic
    @BurtonsAttic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always had issues parting steel. Yours works great, have to give it a try!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I redesigned this tool. It's more predictable and way easier to make. The video will be posted tomorrow with the plans. (2/4/22)

    • @BurtonsAttic
      @BurtonsAttic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop I’ll be watching!

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work.
    You also could drill and tap and counter bore two screw on the weld side into your tool holder for additional holding power.
    To take some pressure off of the weld.
    Also the .500 x .625 is a great idea.
    I really like the holder.
    I think I'll make one myself.
    Great content.
    Thank you, EM.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea. I did this. thanks

  • @jimburnsjr.
    @jimburnsjr. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video... subbed.. nice idea on the band saw

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, I made one more video on this also... a modification.

  • @johnnym1320
    @johnnym1320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty awesome! I may have to build one for myself, you could use 2 button head screws on top and bottom of the cutoff blade to hold it in place to increase the clearance

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a good idea. The only concern if that the top of the blade is concave and has a cutting ends on the side. the screw might damage the blade edge.

    • @johnnym1320
      @johnnym1320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop make a thin aluminum washer to go under the head of the screw

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnym1320 The problem is, the blade is slightly recessed and the top is larger. The blade is T shaped. The top 3/16 can not be clamps because the recess behind it is slightly deeper than the blade.

  • @courierdog1941
    @courierdog1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always enjoy your videos and your unique means to achieve a turning or cutting.
    I use the FOR by Eccentric Engineering which also uses the T shaped blade. While it is designed to be used in the QCTP it is designed to be used with the Lathe running in reverse so the chips fall out of the workpiece thus keeping the workforce clear of the removed chips thus minimizing the clogging and some of the risks to the tool digging in.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the reverse idea or from behind but I have a screw on chuck and a cross slide that can't go from the back.

  • @hootinouts
    @hootinouts ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Glad I watched this. Now I have to build one for my 9" Southbend. I like some of the suggestions below for attaching the 1/2" bar for the tool post; especially milling a shallow channel on the tool post side to set the bar in. Two flathead screws to fasten the bar to the tool holder and your golden. Looks like you made your holder out of cold rolled. Anyhow, you did an excellent job making this.

  • @davidschwartz5127
    @davidschwartz5127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, that's was impressive, it looks like I need to clone your cut-off tool, I've made many attempts to do cutoffs, I've purchased several types of tools looking for that magic tool, and have yet made a satisfactory cutoff on my lathe a 1935 Leblond 12" round top that I restored in 2018. This fall I took the headstock down, crossfeed, and apron complete down looking for something I missed in the restoration and have not found a smoking gun but, I made some minor improvements. It's back together now but I have had the heart to attempt a cutoff, my excuse is all the cutoff tools I have been wrecked. I do believe I will make your Armstrong tool first and then try it! Thanks, Wink!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This tool works fantastic.... however, I can't seem to duplicate it. I made a second one and it chatters bad. Here's an older video I made on cut off. th-cam.com/video/B6NMY73eOxU/w-d-xo.html

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is how to make the tool holder th-cam.com/video/HGAQHjzgs9c/w-d-xo.html

  • @richardhaen
    @richardhaen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video, sure was ver good, u r very creative did a very good job with all of the building, I would like to
    build one. I haven’t finished the other one u made first one u showed.
    Very good job

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much! I'll be posting plans for a simplified version Friday.

  • @3dmakerzone75
    @3dmakerzone75 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing. I too have problems parting off on my lathe. Would love to see an update after you've used it for a while.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's still working well but here's something weird. I made a second one and it chatters bad and I can't figure out why. I'll figure it out but right now I'm stumped.

  • @petermeier4953
    @petermeier4953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Winky. Thanks a lot for this video!
    Cutting off always was russian roulette to me and I never got my head around the reasons. Now it's pretty clear thanks to you!
    Concerning the vibes on your second attempt: Well, it's about vibes - every single item in this world has got its inherent resonant frequency (frequencies to be correct) depending on the mass, ridgidity and geometrie. Change one part of the equation just a little and it changes everything. A dedicated engineer might be able to solve the equation for not hitting on for speciffic revs and diameter but it might be easier and quicker just to try out. The importent thing is, that the edge wont tend to jam anymore with this holder!
    You really made my day!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment. Yes you are exactly correct. Everything has a resonance and speed, feed mass, rigidity or flex are all part of the equation. On my new tool design I moved the point of flex toward the cutting edge. This makes the tool more reactive. It pulls out of the cut more when it deflects. I suspect trail and error is way easier than the math involved. Here's the second tool. It works GREAT! th-cam.com/video/s9qcd5-wj3c/w-d-xo.html

  • @ParsMaker
    @ParsMaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work , I guess I need to build one too

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll have a new video posted tomorrow with a new (and better) design and the plans.

    • @ParsMaker
      @ParsMaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop I look forward to it, thanks

  • @neillawson4493
    @neillawson4493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen people use countersunk screws to hold the 1/2" square piece to give a clean join.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that would be a better approach. I could also slot the back maybe 3/32" and it would never move.

    • @neillawson4493
      @neillawson4493 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop most of the youtube examples I've seen have been from a Russian or at least Slavic channel so I can't really tell you much more. It is an amazing mount and now that I've seen your video I'm going to give it a go.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@neillawson4493 I'll have the plans drawn up by Friday. Updated without welding.

  • @MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc
    @MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice, that's going to get copied! I've been thinking about making a parting tool holder for a while! The original clamping set up pulled through from the other side, that would give more chuck clearance. Cheers, Matthew

    • @mrayco
      @mrayco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/users/shorts6OG63fH5uPw?feature=share watch this one

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ha... I made a copy and it didn't work as well. Still trying to figure out why!

    • @mrayco
      @mrayco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WinkysWorkshop i made mine from an old leaf spring it works well with me.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mrayco That's Great!

  • @yt66228
    @yt66228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I designed an upside down cut off holder. Works great. All problems went away. Never go back to original way!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have a lathe that runs in reverse that works well for the same reason this tool works. Many older lathes have screw on chucks however. Parting from behind and upside down works well too but many cross slides don't extend for enough back.

  • @bobkelly2447
    @bobkelly2447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised it worked so well because of the thickness of the plate you used I'd have used 1/4" or 3/8" not 1/2" BUT it worked fantastic !
    I tried a cutoff yesterday with my cheapo chinese cut off tool with a carbide insert in it ....
    you guessed it it grabbed and bent the bottom part and busted the insert...
    i said fooie on it and cut it with the HF band saw ! which works a treat now that I have your plate in it ! thank you.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cut off is tricky. Lots of variables. I made a duplicate of this holder and can't get it to do as well. I'll figure it out but it kind of surprised me.

  • @tomdixon2959
    @tomdixon2959 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, I had not seen this style holder before. Retired welder here trying to learn machining. On the welding, you could have beveled the corners you welded then when removing the excess weld you would have retained more strength. Thanks for the videos, very helpful and informative.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes a v groove would have been better. The next video has a better design.

  • @leec2106
    @leec2106 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would suggest milling a groove for the height knob clearance, I am guessing 20 to 60 thousandths should work for you. Good luck. Lee

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that would have worked well. I ended up making a little different style after this one anyway. Thanks

  • @jimc4731
    @jimc4731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mill the blade holding slot at a slight angle to give the blade a little top rake for better yet performance.
    Keep up the good work, JIM

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You might be right! I don't thick it needs much put this might be a plus - Thanks

  • @LetsRogerThat
    @LetsRogerThat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark, that was awesome. I'm gonna have to make one as I'm working on a cutoff tool shootout video that compares various cutoff tools and holding setups. Gilles ;)

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool... here's something weird. I made a second one and it chatters bad and I can't figure out why. I'll figure it out but right now I'm stumped. If you make one and it works let me know.

  • @Fake-moon-landing.
    @Fake-moon-landing. ปีที่แล้ว

    Grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't.

  • @EverettsWorkshop
    @EverettsWorkshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen the Armstrong style cutoff tool with the flexion in it before but never used one. That turned out to be a very effective tool, I may have to try one of those at some point if I can't get my parting issues figured out on my import lathe, lol!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Everett, I have a new design I'll be posting tomorrow. It seems to work well and it's a lot more simple to make. Oddly, I made a second holder of this design and it acted like a tuning fork. Apparently the tool was slightly different in weight or rigidity but I never did figure out how to fix it. So far this new design is great!

  • @davidjohnson620
    @davidjohnson620 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very clever idea. I was (am) going to make a rear toolpost but this design has me confused. Have to find the Tom Lipton video and watch this also. Cant weld so will have to think of some other method of mounting it

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  หลายเดือนก่อน

      On a standard setup the point of flexing is normally the compound so the blade digs into the cut when it flexes. With this design the point of flex is where the hole is drilled about the blade. When it flexes the blade pulls away from the cut. Tom's video is good.

  • @daveticehurst4191
    @daveticehurst4191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Winky, the original clamping bolt head underside was tapered. As you tightened the nut it pulled the bolt head inwards clamping the blade tight back against the holder, it also forced the blade down tight against the base of the holder. Regards from Australia.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks - Yeah I knew that. The reason I didn't do that is I didn't want to bolt to damage the top of the blade. The blade I used is concave with fragile edges. It's by far the best blade I have ever used. If the blade fits the slot well (which it does) all the force will be downward, it will never move.

  • @TERRYB0688
    @TERRYB0688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mr Winky, I have one of those Armstrong cut off holders but never been able to get blades for it so never used it, I used to have problems with parting off but somebody told me it’s all about making sure your tool is dead centre and constant pressure, now I part of stainless steel with ease.
    Some help with you welding techniques move the torch left to right and watch your puddle. Good job going to make one and try it out 🤗👴🏻

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cut off problems have a major amount of culprits. Spindle diameter, chuck overhang, how the compound is made etc. I always use autofeed with cut off. In the past I have had situations were faster feed is better than slow. Also slower lathe speed... or faster. Larger more ridged lates are way more forgiving. With small lathes you are working with multiple resonances. Probably the biggest problem with most small older lathes is the depth of the chuck. The spindle size is not adequate to handle work 4.5 inches from the bearing. I suspect this cut off tool holder will resolve most these issues. The old chucks that came with these lathes worked way better... very shallow.
      As for welding... I used to travel the other way but the best welder I ever saw pushed the tip. I can't say my welding improved by doing this but it doesn't seem to matter for me. I used to be good at stick welding and yes watching the pool helped. Mig is happening too fast.... just don't see it. My biggest problem is being dead on center.

    • @shakdidagalimal
      @shakdidagalimal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop I have a 500w shop light I put near my welding and shine into the area - it's just below tripping the autohelmet - that way I can see everything with the helmet down and me in position before pulling the trigger. If I lose my spot - just let go of the trigger - can see again in the quick pause-

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shakdidagalimal I've done the same although it was a clamp light and temporary. Not 500 watt either. That would help for sure!

  • @chuckthebull
    @chuckthebull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ben battling the cut off chatter right along with you and this is interesting idea...instead of trying to ridged everything letting the tool take up the vibration to counter it is quite genius. I'm going to try and make something for the hobby lathe along these lines.. cheers!~!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The pivot point it the secrete. It flexes above the blade so the tool pulls away from the cut. Thanks and good luck.

  • @lesmaybury793
    @lesmaybury793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was super interesting. I wonder if the design could work on a soggy mini lathe? 🤔, always a problem with those machines made from Chinese rubber 😉. A project for spring me thinks.
    Thanks for another great idea.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This guy here is using one on his soggy lathe th-cam.com/video/RWhIa-3gMfg/w-d-xo.html

  • @Tensquaremetreworkshop
    @Tensquaremetreworkshop ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazed this works- looks like a recipe for chatter. Guess the thickness of the steel used reduces the movement- and that might match the mount flexing, giving a neutral overall movement. Fortuitous.

    • @Morkmtw
      @Morkmtw ปีที่แล้ว

      The trick to this design is that the blade pulls back when deflected. The feed rate and speeds are a little finicky. When the blade first contacts the work it lets out a scream (high pitch chatter) for about one second until the tool is compressed a little.

    • @Tensquaremetreworkshop
      @Tensquaremetreworkshop ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Morkmtw I understand the principle of unloading the cutter by deflection- my concern is that this is a dynamic system, with feed altering the load over time, and the mass of the assembly (sort of 'unsprung weight') acts as a mechanical inductance. Depending on values, oscillation can result- I.e. chatter. Without a lot of analysis, this may be a matter of luck when choosing dimensions.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Tensquaremetreworkshop Yep, I agree. The right feed rate is critical and the amount of stick out, width of blade, strength of spring all play a part. I will say however that the I have been using the final version without much issue for quite a while now. Yesterday I extended the blade and cut 2-inch stock and aside from the momentary (and deafening) scream it the start of the cut it was without issue. It may not be perfect and there maybe a better combination but it works. I also made a solid direct mount design but it was more time consuming to use. It eliminated the tool post and mounted to the compound. it worked near prefect also but without the scream! Ha

    • @Tensquaremetreworkshop
      @Tensquaremetreworkshop ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop That suggests the carriage flexion and the holder flexion may be fighting each other... Adding a resistive load (friction) may damp the resonance. Moving it above the audible range may also be possible.
      Do you clamp your carriage while parting?

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tensquaremetreworkshop It's the same as moving chalk on a chalk board. It makes a noise until you apply more pressure. Yes, I lock the carriage although it acts the same with unlocked. The pressure is 100% downward and there is no chance of movement. I lock it to avoid the possibility of bumping the carriage handle and moving it laterally. The screech is only an annoyance. I sometimes start the cut rapidly before engaging the power feed. And yes, there probably is flexing in the compound until the downward pressure on the blade fully removes clearances in the dovetail slides and also partly compresses the flex in the tool. The tool is not perfect but beats the heck out of the standard blade holder. No planetary alignment required.

  • @mikemcdonough1793
    @mikemcdonough1793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang it, I already built your other one , now I gotta Build this one.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oops. Hey, check out the next video before you do. It's an easier design and works better too

    • @mikemcdonough1793
      @mikemcdonough1793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop I just finished watching it and Printed the Plans. Keep up the Great vids. Much Appreciated.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikemcdonough1793 I was overall pleased with the last tool but I suspect this is a bit more forgiving. I only had cut fail and that was before installing the stop. In was also after cutting about 10 cuts in 1.5 bar. Maybe it was dull but it went under the stock at slightly less than 1/4" diameter. It didn't brake the blade but it stared me.

    • @mikemcdonough1793
      @mikemcdonough1793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop Still has to be better than the stock ones that are usually used on these Machines.

  • @Murgoh
    @Murgoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That style of cut off tool is very common here (in Finland) on older manual lathes. Most I have used have been like that. Not sure what brand or where they were made but most of the old lathes I have used were made in the eastern Europe (Soviet Union, Poland, Czechoslovakia etc, so I suppose the tooling was of the same origin.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah... I've seen several versions. It's an interesting concept and it works

  • @randallpeterson783
    @randallpeterson783 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are plans available for the Very best cut off blade holder? I sure would like to build one. Tnx

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is a better one after this video... I think I need to rename the videos. The plans are in the comment area in the other video (link) th-cam.com/video/p93bUqpdWMg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Twa3xwPxaxkKjluM

  • @phased-out-24-73
    @phased-out-24-73 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell Yeah!!!

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing huh? it worked fantastic

  • @johnspathonis1078
    @johnspathonis1078 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video. There is always something to learn. The weld would have been stronger if you had ground a chamfer ( half 'V' weld prep) on the square stock you were welding on.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree... be sure and watch part 2

    • @johnspathonis1078
      @johnspathonis1078 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinkysWorkshop Thank you for the reply. I await Pt2.

    • @WinkysWorkshop
      @WinkysWorkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnspathonis1078 It's already posted, here you go: th-cam.com/video/s9qcd5-wj3c/w-d-xo.html