I have to be honest - I know that Analog and digital are very different, but the Runcam phoenix 2 is about as close to perfect as I think we'll ever get out of analog, up until the very latest hours of the night. Even under moonlight and streetlights, I'm easily able to see everything and fly. It is amazing how far technology has come !
Yeah it's an excellent camera and I can fully understand why this would be someone's favourite! I'd almost given up on using RunCam for FPV cameras until I tried this one. Thanks for watching and commenting.
my favorite cam Phoenix 2 seems other cams have this shimmering effect around edge's of objects drives me crazy the Phoenix doesn't have that and the lens glare colors are so cool looking
The colours and clarity of the phoenix 2 are amazing, however I just can’t get used to its fisheye. For me, it’s really hard to get a sense of depth with it.
@@@Nugget-FPVHello @NuggetFPV, i have same problem with too much fish exe on my vista with Polar camera - too much fish eye. I heard somewhere that there are teo type of lenses - 2,1mm and 1,9mm. Which one I should get?
respect for building that plane "rig", it looks just awesome with all those cams. Also this video really helped me as there are way to many options nowadays
I love how the Ratel goes green when in night mode. Looks like proper military night vision. For the past year or so I've exclusively used the Ratel's on all my builds, although recently I've started using a Phoenix 2. Can't say I've noticed a whole lot of difference yet, they're both excellent
Yeah they're both great cameras, and unless you have them side by side like this it would be very hard to tell the difference! Thanks for watching and commenting
I fly the Ratel and the Toothless2 on a few planes and IMO they are pretty equal, just a matter of what is available from my favorite vendor, ReadyMadeRC, when I need the next camera. I will add that one thing I have noticed is that the B/W mode on these "starlight" cameras seems very laggy, but the color performance is so good you don't need to switch to B/W anyway. Good demos of these cameras.
Thanks 😃 both very good and both Ratel and Toothless 2 are going on my Mini Crosswind (toothless will be a tail cam). Someone did a latency test on the Cat2 and even in B&W it is super low latency, so if you do a lot of night flying it's one to look into for sure. Cheers
It's a great camera but my personal opinion is it's not as good as the others. I have just installed it on the tail of my Mini Crosswind which I maidened at the weekend😎
Thanks for the video Adam, as you say its not perfect but its still a good comparison and perfectly acceptable, cheers for sharing. Shame you didnt get some of the footage with the toothless. ive today just ordered the cat2 to replace/ compliment my toothless 2. Perhaps the toothless 2 will become a rear facing camera.
Yeah in the future I’m looking to get 4 DVRs on board for an exact side by side comparison. Best I could do for now and glad it seems to have been helpful to people 😃👍🏻 my toothless 2 is a tail cam now on my Mini Crosswind
Hey Stuwe, yeah the Phoenix 2 is great and definitely the best RunCam I’ve ever used. I have a couple of Eagles but the shimmering effect always distracted me a little. I can see why you’d stick with this cam 👌🏻 cheers
looking for latency test.. I really liked image from my ratel/phoenix 2 but latency feels pretty bad. I smashed my predator 4 but seemed like the best balance of quality/latency. Gonna try a predator 5 next.
Can't say i'd noticed any latency issues, but then I'm not using them for proximity on a Mini Drak or anything, more on cruisers. My P5 is fitted to my new big Drak which is still being built.
Thanks for the great vid! Tho I was hoping at the end of your video you would come out and say which one you prefer and why. I'm shopping for a wide wide camera, still can't decide on which one is be top favorite out there... Thanks for the vid. I'll like & subscribe~
I like the ratel still.. I have a baby ratel (no where near as good as regular ratel). Its day time view is beautiful and being able to still see when it gets dark is nice
That's a difficult call! I think it's between the ratel and predator 5 for me.... the predator seemed to show more detail, but the colours looked more natural with the ratel. I'm in the market for a couple of new cameras, and I can't decide!
Spot on, the Predator has excellent detail but I feel like the colour may need some setting adjustments. I'm currently building a big Drak and the Predator will be going in that. Hopefully with some more natural colours once adjusted. The Ratel is a great all rounder straight out of the box and it's going on my Mini Crosswind which is close to being ready to maiden 😎 Let me know which camera you go for in the end. Cheers
I like the Phoenix 2, though the colors seem a little saturated. The Ratel looks like it has better color representation, and a bit brighter image than the Toothless 2. I have a Phoenix 2, but haven't used it, yet, and other than the color, I like the looks of the image in your comparison. If I was looking to buy one for the first time, I would probably choose the Ratel from this. As for the dark, I'd pick the Cat2 hands down, just because it's black-and-white for better contrast.
I think you’ll like the Phoenix 2, I was pleasantly surprised, best RunCam I’ve used for sure. The Cat2 would be my choice for night flying too 👍🏻 cheers
Hi i got no flight controller or esc, i only got a vtx can it still run the camera phoenix 2, can it still send videos even without osd connection to the flight controller?
I'm interested in building an FPV drone, and I noticed your cameras all are displaying angle HUD, though I can see you mounted the cameras on a plane. Is this information fed to the camera with a component I can buy and attach on an FPV drone?
Hi, it’s all about the FC (flight controller). The camera feeds the image to the FC, which overlays the OSD (on screen display) and outputs it to the video transmitter that sends the video back to you.
I own both ratel and phoenix 2. And i've never seen their picture as good as you show. How is that possible? I am using stock settings. Can it be just my EV800D with inferior screen and DVR resolution?
I don't know how good or bad the EV800D goggles are but if the screens and DVR are bad quality then you won't get the best out of the cameras. I'm using stock settings on these cameras and there is no post editing to the image other than laying them out in a grid format. Cheers
@@sashgorokhov I can't remember now to be honest. It would have been on this DVR: tiny.cc/9cdv0y or on the DVR built into these goggles: tiny.cc/Skyzone03O. There is no DVR onboard the plane
well i doing my first build and ratel wins hands down!! i be ordering it in 8 days from now thanks for posting the video, what the title of the music you was playing ?
They're simple analogue cameras, they can be used for practically anything. Supply them with power and they provide an analogue output. Connect them to a vtx to transmit the image or you can connect them to a DVR to simply record the image.
For day time I think I prefer the Ratel. These cameras are all very good so it just comes down to personal preference in the end I think. I used the Ratel on my latest build, but I also used the toothless 2 as a tail cam :)
Best camera is the old Micro Eagle. The new cameras have to much FOV for me, and the new micro eagle 3 does not even have PAL, so the image looks very low resolution.
Interesting, this never popped up on the long list of suggestions. You could always switch out the lens on these cameras to get the FOV you're after 😃 Cheers
Ratel is probably my personal favourite out of these. You can adjust the settings to improve saturation etc. I've changed no settings or done any editing so your Phoenix 2 should look very similar to mine. cheers
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I have to be honest - I know that Analog and digital are very different, but the Runcam phoenix 2 is about as close to perfect as I think we'll ever get out of analog, up until the very latest hours of the night. Even under moonlight and streetlights, I'm easily able to see everything and fly. It is amazing how far technology has come !
Yeah it's an excellent camera and I can fully understand why this would be someone's favourite! I'd almost given up on using RunCam for FPV cameras until I tried this one. Thanks for watching and commenting.
my favorite cam Phoenix 2 seems other cams have this shimmering effect around edge's of objects drives me crazy the Phoenix doesn't have that and the lens glare colors are so cool looking
The colours and clarity of the phoenix 2 are amazing, however I just can’t get used to its fisheye. For me, it’s really hard to get a sense of depth with it.
@@Nugget-FPV yeah I wish there was an FPV camera with rectilinear lens without distortion
@@@Nugget-FPVHello @NuggetFPV, i have same problem with too much fish exe on my vista with Polar camera - too much fish eye. I heard somewhere that there are teo type of lenses - 2,1mm and 1,9mm. Which one I should get?
Thank you very much for testing the cameras! It was carried out competently.
No problem! Glad it was useful😊
Damn the ratel is hard to beat!
Yeah it's surprisingly good!
respect for building that plane "rig", it looks just awesome with all those cams. Also this video really helped me as there are way to many options nowadays
Thanks, glad it helped 👍🏻
I love how the Ratel goes green when in night mode. Looks like proper military night vision. For the past year or so I've exclusively used the Ratel's on all my builds, although recently I've started using a Phoenix 2. Can't say I've noticed a whole lot of difference yet, they're both excellent
Yeah they're both great cameras, and unless you have them side by side like this it would be very hard to tell the difference! Thanks for watching and commenting
I really can't decide. So which one of these 2 you are prefer 6 months later now?
I fly the Ratel and the Toothless2 on a few planes and IMO they are pretty equal, just a matter of what is available from my favorite vendor, ReadyMadeRC, when I need the next camera. I will add that one thing I have noticed is that the B/W mode on these "starlight" cameras seems very laggy, but the color performance is so good you don't need to switch to B/W anyway. Good demos of these cameras.
Thanks 😃 both very good and both Ratel and Toothless 2 are going on my Mini Crosswind (toothless will be a tail cam). Someone did a latency test on the Cat2 and even in B&W it is super low latency, so if you do a lot of night flying it's one to look into for sure. Cheers
Well done and thank's so much!
Glad it was useful 😁
nice work. Very helpful.thank you.
Glad it helped, thanks for watching!
Ratel for the win IMO
I can completely understand why people would go for the Ratel. Excellent camera that works well in all conditions. Thanks :)
Toothless 2 performs pretty good in the dark. Tested it yesterday evening and posted video on TH-cam (title: Knight Flying).
Yeah it's a decent all rounder,
Toothless is amazing and reliable
It's a great camera but my personal opinion is it's not as good as the others. I have just installed it on the tail of my Mini Crosswind which I maidened at the weekend😎
I like the Ratel in darker situations and the phoenix during the day
Yeah both great cameras! Thanks for watching
Dude excellent video my friend, I'm going to be upgrading the camera on my AxisFlying Manta 3.5inch soon!
Nice 👍 which camera will you go for?
@@AdamGdoesFPV the toothles 2 starlight 2.1mm is the one im eyeing up tbh
@@fpv_freestylersuk3345 did you get the toothless 2 starlight? how is it?
Thanks for the video Adam, as you say its not perfect but its still a good comparison and perfectly acceptable, cheers for sharing.
Shame you didnt get some of the footage with the toothless. ive today just ordered the cat2 to replace/ compliment my toothless 2. Perhaps the toothless 2 will become a rear facing camera.
Yeah in the future I’m looking to get 4 DVRs on board for an exact side by side comparison. Best I could do for now and glad it seems to have been helpful to people 😃👍🏻 my toothless 2 is a tail cam now on my Mini Crosswind
It's a Ratel for me, all day long...In bright conditions, I turn down the colour saturation a little, but it's just a good all rounder I find..
Can’t argue with that, it is a great all rounder for sure! 👍🏻
Predator 5 looks lit!
This camera is currently on my big Drak awaiting maiden 😎
I own many Phoenix 2 and will buy more. Even beats the Eagle 2 mainly because the Phoenix uses real glass which makes a huge difference!
Hey Stuwe, yeah the Phoenix 2 is great and definitely the best RunCam I’ve ever used. I have a couple of Eagles but the shimmering effect always distracted me a little. I can see why you’d stick with this cam 👌🏻 cheers
@@AdamGdoesFPV fully agree! Same for me. I wonder what the Phoenix 2 Nano is like.. do a test Adam :)
All very similar but I will go with the phoenix 2
It’s a great camera. Can’t imagine anyone being disappointed with it!
very useful vid here, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
looking for latency test.. I really liked image from my ratel/phoenix 2 but latency feels pretty bad. I smashed my predator 4 but seemed like the best balance of quality/latency. Gonna try a predator 5 next.
Can't say i'd noticed any latency issues, but then I'm not using them for proximity on a Mini Drak or anything, more on cruisers. My P5 is fitted to my new big Drak which is still being built.
I have two Ratel 2, it is very nice for Freestyle. The Phœnix has nice colors, maybe I will buy this one for my next drone !
Yeah I have a couple of Ratel 2's, great cameras, my current favourite
Thanks for the great vid! Tho I was hoping at the end of your video you would come out and say which one you prefer and why. I'm shopping for a wide wide camera, still can't decide on which one is be top favorite out there... Thanks for the vid. I'll like & subscribe~
You're welcome :) My favourite all rounder is the Ratel, and the Ratel 2 comes with an even wider angle lens. Well worth trying that out!
Ratel has impressive shadow details (in daytime) compared to others. also most "natural" looking DR to me. (phoenix 2 is also very close best!)
Yeah the Ratel is my first choice these days
I like the ratel still.. I have a baby ratel (no where near as good as regular ratel). Its day time view is beautiful and being able to still see when it gets dark is nice
I agree the Ratel is a fantastic little camera! This went onto my latest build, the Mini Crosswind :D Thanks for watching and commenting
Nice, great comparison Adam 👍👍👍
Cheers Matt 🙌🏻😁
That's a difficult call! I think it's between the ratel and predator 5 for me.... the predator seemed to show more detail, but the colours looked more natural with the ratel.
I'm in the market for a couple of new cameras, and I can't decide!
Spot on, the Predator has excellent detail but I feel like the colour may need some setting adjustments. I'm currently building a big Drak and the Predator will be going in that. Hopefully with some more natural colours once adjusted. The Ratel is a great all rounder straight out of the box and it's going on my Mini Crosswind which is close to being ready to maiden 😎 Let me know which camera you go for in the end. Cheers
Predator seems to have best quality with minimal fisheye effect. If setup for colours properly it would win for me.
I have the Predator 5 nano, very very clear imagine and Good colours. Seems to be the winner here too by looking at these videos
The p5 is going on m new beast, 6S big Drak with Badass power train😈
Phoniex 2 - best !!! For price and for pic!
It's an excellent camera for sure and I can see why people would vote it as their favourite. Thanks for watching and commenting :)
I like the Phoenix 2, though the colors seem a little saturated. The Ratel looks like it has better color representation, and a bit brighter image than the Toothless 2. I have a Phoenix 2, but haven't used it, yet, and other than the color, I like the looks of the image in your comparison. If I was looking to buy one for the first time, I would probably choose the Ratel from this. As for the dark, I'd pick the Cat2 hands down, just because it's black-and-white for better contrast.
I think you’ll like the Phoenix 2, I was pleasantly surprised, best RunCam I’ve used for sure. The Cat2 would be my choice for night flying too 👍🏻 cheers
Hi i got no flight controller or esc, i only got a vtx can it still run the camera phoenix 2, can it still send videos even without osd connection to the flight controller?
Yes. You don’t need a flight controller or osd to fly FPV. Just connect the camera to a vtx and a power source.
I'm interested in building an FPV drone, and I noticed your cameras all are displaying angle HUD, though I can see you mounted the cameras on a plane.
Is this information fed to the camera with a component I can buy and attach on an FPV drone?
Hi, it’s all about the FC (flight controller). The camera feeds the image to the FC, which overlays the OSD (on screen display) and outputs it to the video transmitter that sends the video back to you.
@@AdamGdoesFPV Oh, that's great, thank you!
Is it possible to set up a voltage reading for the phoenix 2? I don't see an osd wire.
No, can't be done on the Phoenix 2.
Adam what’s your favourite camera or if you had to pick one for your every day use thanks
At the moment it’s the Ratel for me. Or the Ratel 2 if you like a wide angle lens
Is the specs with height and stuff from the cam?
No the OSD is provided by the flight controller.
I own both ratel and phoenix 2. And i've never seen their picture as good as you show. How is that possible? I am using stock settings. Can it be just my EV800D with inferior screen and DVR resolution?
I don't know how good or bad the EV800D goggles are but if the screens and DVR are bad quality then you won't get the best out of the cameras. I'm using stock settings on these cameras and there is no post editing to the image other than laying them out in a grid format. Cheers
@@AdamGdoesFPV So how did you record the image? Is this from skyzone googles DVR, ground station DVR or onboard DVR?
@@sashgorokhov I can't remember now to be honest. It would have been on this DVR: tiny.cc/9cdv0y or on the DVR built into these goggles: tiny.cc/Skyzone03O. There is no DVR onboard the plane
what kind of flightcontroller is this? Its a nice OSD!
Hey, it's an MFD AP
well i doing my first build and ratel wins hands down!! i be ordering it in 8 days from now thanks for posting the video, what the title of the music you was playing ?
Ratel is a great camera and the Ratel 2 is even better again! the music is: Stories - A Himitsu. Cheers
Ratel ftw!. :D
Excellent all rounder on stock settings this one 😎
what kind of osd do yuo use in this video??
His this is the MFD AP OSD. Parts list and links in video description :)
Can this be use in airsoft??
They're simple analogue cameras, they can be used for practically anything. Supply them with power and they provide an analogue output. Connect them to a vtx to transmit the image or you can connect them to a DVR to simply record the image.
Thank you!
You're welcome, hope it helped you choose
I feel like the Phoenix 2 and Ratel are pretty much on par with Shark Byte
I think Shark Byte looks clearer when reception is excellent... but I'd still prefer to run analogue with one of these cameras over SB. Cheers
Which one do you personally prefer?
The Ratel is my favourite. Best all rounder in my opinion and also well priced.
Where did you get the OSD?
It's a MFD AP. Check out vid description for full kit list with links
Nice ,,, I like run cam 👍👍
Thanks 👍 Yeah it's a very good camera, the best Runcam I've ever used!
what osd software are you using please
This plane is running a MFD AP. Full spec with links in video description 👍🏻
@@AdamGdoesFPV ok cool see the ting is im using the mfd tracker with the telefly tiny with the rattel and phoenix 2 and both make the osd glitch out
I think the Runcam takes the 🏆,and for the starlight the ratel wins the 🏆
Both excellent cameras 🙌🏻 Thanks for watching and commenting
Predator, details 👍
Yeah I do really like the detail on the PV5. I think it could benefit from adjusting some colour settings so I’ll try that out when I can. Cheers 😃
Ratel or phoenix? this is the question
For day time I think I prefer the Ratel. These cameras are all very good so it just comes down to personal preference in the end I think. I used the Ratel on my latest build, but I also used the toothless 2 as a tail cam :)
Predator stock settings looks bizarre
They look a bit blue when compared to the others. When you fly with this cam it doesn’t feel blue at the time. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Ratel the best!
It's an awesome little camera!
Ratel 🛩️👍
Seems to be getting a lot of votes 👍🏻
CADDX won the game with low light. clear noise.
Caddx Ratel is my favourite analogue camera as an all rounder
O3 air unit is best for future drone and other analog is toy and fun.
I've 99% given up on analogue now. I use O3 or Polar Vista (because low light is so good and O3 is crap in low light)
okay now do it again with the eagle v3 and the T-rex......
I do have a T-Rex ready for testing but not an Eagle V3, might have to grab one. Cheers
@@AdamGdoesFPV I look forward to seeing that!
Best camera is the old Micro Eagle. The new cameras have to much FOV for me, and the new micro eagle 3 does not even have PAL, so the image looks very low resolution.
Interesting, this never popped up on the long list of suggestions. You could always switch out the lens on these cameras to get the FOV you're after 😃 Cheers
Predator looks too saturated. Althoigh i have a pheonix 2 and it doesn't look that good compared to this video. The ratel is also really nice image
Ratel is probably my personal favourite out of these. You can adjust the settings to improve saturation etc. I've changed no settings or done any editing so your Phoenix 2 should look very similar to mine. cheers