Haydn Masterclass: Concerto in C Major: I. Moderato (part one) - Musings with Inbal Segev

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  • @alexchandler6299
    @alexchandler6299 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Terrific advice once again! Thanks for making this concerto a little less intimidating.

  • @indydecember5379
    @indydecember5379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Fantastic.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've played the C Bass Horn Parts (sound an Octave lower than written) on 2 C Bass-Tenor Flugelhorns.

  • @rayanazzam712
    @rayanazzam712 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interpretation 🙌

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:21 1'st Violins Slurs in 1'st Tutti (on Cello)

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    The reason that lots of cellists like to play this concerto differently is because we don't have a surviving manuscript of this Concerto in Haydn's Hands, but we do have a copy that was found in the 1960s & the one in the video is published by Barenreiter Verlag. The instrumentation from top to bottom in the Score is 2 Oboes, 2 Horns in C (or 2 C Bass Flugelhorns), 2 Violins, Viola, Solo Cello, & Basso Continuo (Cellos, Basses, Bassoon, & Harpsichord).

  • @gatozarin
    @gatozarin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    can’t believe all of this is out here for free

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    The reason that lots of cellists like to play this concerto differently is because we don't have a surviving manuscript of this Concerto in Haydn's Hands, but we do have a copy that was found in the 1960s & the one in the video is published by Barenreiter Verlag. The instrumentation from top to bottom in the Barenreiter Score is 2 Oboes, 2 Horns in C Basso (those parts can be played on 2 C Bass Flugelhorns or C Euphoniums), 2 Violins, Viola, Solo Cello, & Basso Continuo (Cellos, Basses, Bassoon, & Harpsichord).

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    That's really one of my favorite concertos. The Bowing is pretty expressive, & the Music that you have on your stand is a Barenreiter Verlag Score. There's also a Piano Reduction score that's alot easier to read since it shows the Orchestral part in a really compact shape.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:58 We don't have a manuscript of the concerto in the composer's hands, we have a copy found in the 1960's.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Barenreiter Verlag has a Piano Reduction Score which is easier to read.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inbal Segev In the Tutti Passages the Solo Cello can play in Unison w/ the Cello Section.

  • @enzocypriani5055
    @enzocypriani5055 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much!

  • @anushilanjugantarcellistdu33
    @anushilanjugantarcellistdu33 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you madam for beautiful explanation

  • @prod.pink3
    @prod.pink3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ah man I was hoping you’d go over measures 39-41,they are really tricky for me :(

  • @gabmusics
    @gabmusics 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice class. Thank you so much!

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That explains the Music Stand.

  • @danilosilvarocha5585
    @danilosilvarocha5585 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could teaching some exercises for the bow and left hand?

    • @Inbalsegevcello
      @Inbalsegevcello  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Danilo, thanks for watching- I am posting the second half of this lesson in a few minutes. I hope that this second half might clarify some issues. Otherwise, please let me know which passages are you having difficulty with, and how? not in tune?, not clear? not fast enough? I do talk more about left hand and right hand coordination in the second part. You can use the music Haydn wrote as an exercise. There are scales and shifts in the music.

  • @gersonriverachelo6505
    @gersonriverachelo6505 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Te admiro mucho inbal

  • @arianasophia7630
    @arianasophia7630 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you do the Saint Saëns Cello Concerto and the Rococo Variations?

    • @Inbalsegevcello
      @Inbalsegevcello  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ariana Sophia hi, adding them to the list... thanks for watching!!

    • @arianasophia7630
      @arianasophia7630 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you so much, and I'm looking forward to those videos!@@Inbalsegevcello

  • @irmiwolvin
    @irmiwolvin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love it 😍

  • @ericcheng3143
    @ericcheng3143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the explaining. Can you play the Mozart clarinet concerto with the cello? There are also very fine Vivaldi Basson concertos that can be played with cello. May need some adjusting for the cello. Sergei played the cello concerto you are explaining but with a valve trumpet.

    • @Inbalsegevcello
      @Inbalsegevcello  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eric Cheng hi, I once played a Haydn trumpet concerto that was transcribed for cello and that works very well. One could probably play the Mozart clarinet concerto on cello as they have a similar range.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Inbalsegevcello What does the Cello version of the Haydn Trumpet concerto Sound like? Play it & we'll find out.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    You have to make a video on how to play the Tutti Passages in the Solo Cello part (which are in unison w/ the Continuo Section) which will happen in a new part 3 video.

  • @gatozarin
    @gatozarin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    8:57 was I the only one who noticed the unintentional pun, the laugh and then the cut? 😂 sorry that was toooo funny

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inbal Segev During the Tutti Passages the Solo Cello can play in unison w/ the Continuo Section.

    • @Inbalsegevcello
      @Inbalsegevcello  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      CircuitsAndStrings 2 Mr Stern true that. In fact, I am preparing the CPE Bach cello concerto in A major now and that’s on my mind too.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Inbalsegevcello Another piece on our minds is Mozart's 5'th Violin Concerto arranged for Cello by Dennis Parker & the Music is available right here:www.sharmusic.com/Sheet-Music/Cello/w-47-Piano/Mozart-on-Cello---Violin-Concerto-No-5-in-A-Major-K-219---for-Cello---transcribed-and-edited-by-Dennis-Parker---Nucello.axd

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Inbalsegevcello Another piece on our minds is Mozart's 5'th Violin Concerto arranged for Cello by Dennis Parker & the Music is available right here:www.sharmusic.com/Sheet-Music/Cello/w-47-Piano/Mozart-on-Cello---Violin-Concerto-No-5-in-A-Major-K-219---for-Cello---transcribed-and-edited-by-Dennis-Parker---Nucello.axd

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Inbalsegevcello Another piece on our minds is Mozart's 5'th Violin Concerto arranged for Cello by Dennis Parker & the Music is available right here:www.sharmusic.com/Sheet-Music/Cello/w-47-Piano/Mozart-on-Cello---Violin-Concerto-No-5-in-A-Major-K-219---for-Cello---transcribed-and-edited-by-Dennis-Parker---Nucello.axd

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Inbalsegevcello Another piece on our minds is Mozart's 5'th Violin Concerto arranged for Cello by Dennis Parker & the Music is available right here:www.sharmusic.com/Sheet-Music/Cello/w-47-Piano/Mozart-on-Cello---Violin-Concerto-No-5-in-A-Major-K-219---for-Cello---transcribed-and-edited-by-Dennis-Parker---Nucello.axd

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    Yeah there's actually more than one way to play it. In a concerto if the Soloist is playing Tutti in unison w/ the Orchestra, it should be based on the role of the instrument in the orchestra, like in Haydn's 1'st Cello Concerto the Soloist plays the Tutti passages in unison w/ the Basso Continuo Section.

  • @hidekakatoshi7020
    @hidekakatoshi7020 ปีที่แล้ว

    偶然あなたのビデオを見合わせました。

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You forgot about the Tutti passages in the solo cello part. We need to know what they sound like

    • @rominn2184
      @rominn2184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ^ Those are not always played, if I know what you mean correctly. Classical concerto form is typically that there is "main material" played by the orchestra and then solo material played by the soloist in which the orchestra softly accompanies underneath similar to the "chorus" theme versus other part in a popular song. This is likely why she didn't bother to include these passages. Perhaps it was tradition in the past for the soloist to play the tutti passages along with the orchestra but it is seldom done today. Just trust that you have quite enough information to work with already from a master cellist!

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rominn2184 It depends on the concerto but I think playing the Tutti passages throughout would allow us to keep the music going

    • @rominn2184
      @rominn2184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RockStarOscarStern634 ^ Like you hinted at, it’s subjective. Up to the discretion, preference, and taste of the player and ensemble. There’s no set “rule”.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rominn2184 True

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So which Solo Violin Pieces did you arrange for the Cello? I thought I could use a 5 String Cello and play them down an Octave cause the High E on a 5 String Cello is a Octave below a Violin E String.

  • @marcelogeronimo6612
    @marcelogeronimo6612 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven't you done the Tutti Passages in the Solo Cello part yet?

  • @nda1406
    @nda1406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which bows do you recommend in the beginning the violin ones or the first ones you show in the video?

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    My idea was to play Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto in D major on the Cello & I was wondering if you could try it by playing the Solo Violin part down an entire octave on the Cello.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw in 1:20 that to me looks like the Barenreiter Score.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The copy was found in the 1950s.

  • @leonhardeuler6811
    @leonhardeuler6811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: Where did you get you cello? It has a beautiful sound 😊😊

    • @Inbalsegevcello
      @Inbalsegevcello  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Leonhard Euler hello and thanks! I am playing on a Francesco Ruggeri cello. It was made in Cremona in 1673.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Inbalsegevcello During the Tutti passages the Solo Cello has an option to play in unison w/ the Continuo Section (Cellos, Basses, Bassoon & Harpsichord) because the Tutti passages for the solo parts in Concertos are based on their orchestral role

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Inbalsegevcello During the Tutti passages the Solo Cello has an option to play in unison w/ the Continuo Section (Cellos, Basses, Bassoon & Harpsichord) because the Tutti passages for the solo parts in Concertos are based on their orchestral role

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Inbalsegevcello During the Tutti passages the Solo Cello has an option to play in unison w/ the Continuo Section (Cellos, Basses, Bassoon & Harpsichord) because the Tutti passages for the solo parts in Concertos are based on their orchestral role

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Inbalsegevcello During the Tutti passages the Solo Cello has an option to play in unison w/ the Continuo Section (Cellos, Basses, Bassoon & Harpsichord) because the Tutti passages for the solo parts in Concertos are based on their orchestral role

  • @danilosilvarocha5585
    @danilosilvarocha5585 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Inbal segev could you please being more especific about the passages in this peace???

  • @nickcallcut1800
    @nickcallcut1800 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been having some trouble with clarity in the 32nd notes, especially at bar 44. I always get the notes in tune, but I feel as if it’s not quite speaking the way it should. Is there anything I could consider doing differently?

    • @Inbalsegevcello
      @Inbalsegevcello  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nick Callcut hi, you probably mean bar 46? I will post/talk about how to work on this passage next week. Be sure your left hand is ahead of your right hand when you change positions, in other words-the left hand moves while you are on the “old bow” if that makes sense? Try to work on this passage with the techniques I talk about for bar 34. Also, playing with the bow closer to the bridge can help.

    • @nickcallcut1800
      @nickcallcut1800 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that’s what I meant. Thank you! I will add this to my work. I’m 16 and it’s only my second major concerto I’ve ever worked on

    • @Inbalsegevcello
      @Inbalsegevcello  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nick Callcut Good luck and good work(-: thanks for watching. Inbal

  • @JuiceQuica
    @JuiceQuica 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "when practice with the piano" HA funny of you to think that I have a teacher :,) Thank you for the guide!

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:21 1'st Violins Slurs in 1'st Tutti (on Cello)

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    The reason that lots of cellists like to play this concerto differently is because we don't have a surviving manuscript of this Concerto in Haydn's Hands, but we do have a copy that was found in the 1960s & the one in the video is published by Barenreiter Verlag. The instrumentation from top to bottom in the Score is 2 Oboes, 2 Horns in C (or 2 C Bass Flugelhorns), 2 Violins, Viola, Solo Cello, & Basso Continuo (Cellos, Basses, Bassoon, & Harpsichord).

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That explains the Music Stand.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    You have to make a video on how to play the Tutti Passages in the Solo Cello part (which are in unison w/ the Continuo Section) which will happen in a new part 3 video.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    That's really one of my favorite concertos. The Bowing is pretty expressive, & the Music that you have on your stand is a Barenreiter Verlag Score. There's also a Piano Reduction score that's alot easier to read since it shows the Orchestral part in a really compact shape.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    Yeah there's actually more than one way to play it. In a concerto if the Soloist is playing Tutti in unison w/ the Orchestra, it should be based on the role of the instrument in the orchestra, like in Haydn's 1'st Cello Concerto the Soloist plays the Tutti passages in unison w/ the Basso Continuo Section.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    My idea was to play Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto in D major on the Cello & I was wondering if you could try it by playing the Solo Violin part down an entire octave on the Cello.

    • @Inbalsegevcello
      @Inbalsegevcello  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      CircuitsAndStrings 2 Mr Stern you should totally do it! I have arranged a few works for violin that way and it can work beautifully.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Inbalsegevcello Can you please come to my house? I really wanna play Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto on the Cello just to impress everyone on social media.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Inbalsegevcello Do you know any violin works you arranged for Cello? Franck's Violin Sonata was arranged for Cello by Jules Delsart.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Inbalsegevcello Really like, which ones? I found that a 5 String Cello w/ the High E String could work better cause 5 String Cellos with a High E Can cover Violin & Viola Sheet Music sounding an Octave Lower than written.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw in 1:20 that to me looks like the Barenreiter Score.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:21 1'st Violins Slurs in 1'st Tutti (on Cello)

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That explains the Music Stand.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    Yeah there's actually more than one way to play it. In a concerto if the Soloist is playing Tutti in unison w/ the Orchestra, it should be based on the role of the instrument in the orchestra, like in Haydn's 1'st Cello Concerto the Soloist plays the Tutti passages in unison w/ the Basso Continuo Section.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw in 1:20 that to me looks like the Barenreiter Score.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:21 1'st Violins Slurs in 1'st Tutti (on Cello)

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @balsegev

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw
    Yeah there's actually more than one way to play it. In a concerto if the Soloist is playing Tutti in unison w/ the Orchestra, it should be based on the role of the instrument in the orchestra, like in Haydn's 1'st Cello Concerto the Soloist plays the Tutti passages in unison w/ the Basso Continuo Section.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @UCwvUjyyu5102bBnQ0gPnUlw in 1:20 that to me looks like the Barenreiter Score.