As a student just started learning architect and digital modeling, what he shows really fascinate me for the possibility of using algorism. Technology can push ourselves beyond our creativity. The column he made is purely the product on algorism it is cool. On the other hand, I feel taste of culture, sth that people can resonate, provoke is an essential element in building our environment. I really wonder and curious about what we will have for the future architecture.
A pure reflection of the underlying replication code of the universe. The universe is hardwired for this structuring and replication. From simplicity comes complexity. Just amazing.
Exquisite! This is a trend becoming more prevalent as time goes on, acknowledging the limit of a human direct designer and instead emphasising designing the process.
this can be done easily in Blender 3D software : add a bevel modifyer on the cube, then a wireframe; make it fatter, add a wireframe modifyer again, a subsurf , and a displacement. Tadaah ! you can make wild symmetric geometry in a few seconds !
The process described is *not* inspired "by nature", but by *mathematics* . Maths is generally agreed *not* to be a natural science, but rather a human-created philosophical system of describing phenomenon, very few of which are directly transferrable to evolutionary shaped forms that can be observed in nature. One way or another, folding a cube is as highly an artificial a process as it gets. I have to agree with my pre-posters: This has little practical value, it is art of art's sake. Which is fine by me if I see it in a spiffy SciFi movie, but certainly not in the building I work in. And that's not even addressing sustainability.
I agree perhaps about the sustainability and safety of certain structures created this way, but nature is mathematical. All living things and even the outer reaches of the galaxy are influenced by mathematical properties. The Fibonacci Sequence is clear and visible in nature from the golden spiral of a Nautilus shell to the logarithmic spiraling motion of the galaxies, nature and mathematics are very much in line with each other.
Your own questions have the potencial of answering themselves. Increased strenght with a tiny fraction of the material, Improved absortion, light absortion and conduction, embedded air cooling, extraction, etc... There is still a long way to go in development. Function following form is a very common thing in sience history.
im not an Indonesian guy, but in Indonesia, these sculptures can be hand-made carved in stones each and every small details of it. I've been once in Bali and i was just amazed by their detail stones walls and carvings. and they don't use 3d noise plugin. :D
It makes sense that these shapes look organic. Organisms create themselves from their DNA using simple, repeated processes, just like the computer creates these shapes.
This is the wonderful successor to Gaudi, HR. Giger, Dali, Escher,and Buckminster Fuller (and many other artists). This is their wildest dreams mixed with organic growth & algorithmic science made real.
Beautiful shapes inspired by nature... here is the big issue with this effort to bring it to life - with the modern design's focus on bio-mimicry and on reducing waste in manufacturing processes, my question would be: How sustainable is this type of architecture? and is printing an entire model out of polymer plastic sustainable and responsible? How do 3D printers fit into the cradle to cradle design? Just curious if anyone has answers....
WELL, if you're trying to make organic shapes, you COULD just 'grow' these structures rather than build them. Of course, this would require some level of nanotechnology, but it's worth considering.
good forms but i think the symmetry makes them static, almost as if to say theyve hit the uncanny valley of forms, parametric-ism however gives a more natural (nature like) appeal to forms .
indeed. but i wouldn't be surprised if the texture is partially generated. as hansmeyer mentioned, there is still a lot of tweeking required to create cool visuals as opposed to the 99% noise. terrains, for example, are mostly generated in the digital world now (like Avatar's landscape, which is made with Vue)
I love the whole idea. ABS seems like the only practical material at the moment for 3D printing. At least that way it can be cleaned easily. Dusting the paper ones would be next to impossible.
I recall when fractals were the big thing. They're very similar: fascinating, repetitive shapes with intricacies at all scales, all generated from relatively simple algorithms, and with proven examples in nature. What I don't recall were people running out and saying, "Hey, we gotta build stuff from this". OK, I've got an open mind... What's the big difference here?
Yes fractal concepts are there... But experimenting and bringing that into reality is an amazing progression...with 3D printing, flying robots innumerable possibilities...
These structures are beautiful, like something you could only conceive in a dream. Id love to live in a world surrounded by architecture that would make our modern cities look like stone age technology
Amazing, i've been teaching a generative arte course for 15 year old kids, and so many of what i've learned is embeded in what you say in this talk, so i wonder Could this be some kind of generative architecture?
Regardless, he has a point: as the guy said - this is incredibly labour intensive and impractical. I'd love to see this type of thing become a reality - a new architectural era, but how are you supposed to make one that would be truly useful? Those columns are holding up how much weight? I can't see them bearing too much of a load.
early application for ANYTHING is always a grey area until years later when we look back and say "i dont know how i would live without that". do you really think when electricity was first being developed the average person thought a lightening bolt travelling down a kite would be what it is today? this is why noble prizes are typically given to discoveries that were made years ago--because the significance is not solidified until later.
Dam I love fractals! Fractal art in real world?... *dies from awesome* This is the niche of 3D printers. Creating objects of such detail that they would take a lifetime to produce in the physical world, but a computer could produce thousands... beautiful.
Why? These are simple slices which can be processed by any computer with a decent CPU. The secred behind it to render one slice at a time. The problem is only that there is no printer in the world that could possibly create the final form in one process, because its way too complex for it to keep up.
It's pretty but what about functionality? When nature does something it's usually for a reason. Increased strength, greater surface area for memory, cooling or heating, light gathering, improved hearing, improved adsorption.... What functional benefit can you add to your pretty columns? Otherwise they are just dust collectors.
It's called art. You may have heard of it. We make sound for sounds sake, and call it Music. We arrange words into literature not for functionality, but for what it says to us. Why can't we have architecture for architectures sake?
My argument was that because Christians (including clerics) practised science openly, and they didn't receive any opposition for practicing science qua science, then that must mean that the Church has not been opposed to science. If it were, you could imagine it rebuking Christian scientists simply because they practiced science. But no such thing happened. The fact that the Church didn't let them leave the Church, as you pointed out, does not refute my conclusion. In fact, it supports it.
Cylindrical video screens should make it possible to have the shapes rendered in real time. Then the columns could be changed between simple and complex as well as intricate color patterns or monochromatic etc. Interesting.
Nothing quite like cleaning dirt out of a fractal.... They're interesting forms, but I personally find their structural qualities on a micro scale to be more interesting than their overall appearance.
I sort of have to agree with you there... the only way this could be relevant is if combined with 3D printers to physically render these designs... and then it couldn't be called art, because it isn't the product of an artist, but of an algorithm. Doing this would also cheapen actual art.
16 million facets it quite high, yes with decent cpu/gpu it is very possible, but it is much higher than an average computer, my schools graphics computers tend to crash at about 4 million facets
the thought is great! but i have a new idea, i think the most important thing is to create a method to construct these shapes(not using 3D printing but a method which is also compatible with your physical laws)
Your "cool so what?" comment just came off as super douchey, ya know? That's probably why it was downvoted by so many people. What I meant was...if you think people are just blown away by complex cool shapes...then you're totally missing the point altogether. I could explain it to you, but it would take more than a youtube comment. There's WAY more to this stuff than what you are talking about. As for it not mattering what you do. How does that NOT matter? It matters very much...
I'm pretty sure such algorithms have been used for 20-30 years in computer graphics as a way of efficiently producing landscapes which look like, well, natural landscapes. So the ideas presented here are hardly new... maybe in architecture they are.
Your initial comment explicitly mentioned that "the Church", and I explicitly mentioned in my reply that the *Church* vs science characterisation is a bad one. From the start this has been about *the Church* and science and I have been arguing about *the Church* the whole time, which I take to mean all of Christianity ever. You introduced the word religion at a later time. Unless you take 'church' to mean Islam and all religion, or a recent localised branch of Christianity, get back on topic.
Interesting, not sure if I'd want to live with that sort of design. I prefer the minimalistic, these structures are just far to intricate for me to fully enjoy.
But imagine a capitol city with sky scrapers and complexes that looked like these forms, it would be stunning, certainly it would make our cities look like they were from the stone age
Very true. We can also recombine molecules into cute compilations that may or may not be poisonous. Form without consideration to purpose. Maybe that is what people are to God.
СТРОИТЕЛЬСТВО ФОРМ, НЕ ПОДДАЮЩИХСЯ ВООБРАЖЕНИЮ Вдохновленный биоэпосом деления клеток, Майкл Хансмайер пишет алгоритмы дизайна зверски увлекательных видов и формы с миллионами граней. Ни один человек не может составить их рукой, но они работоспособны. И они могут произвести революцию мировых архитектурных формаций и архетипов. Майкл Хансмайер архитектор и программист, который исследует использование алгоритмов и вычислений для создания архитектурной формы.
Very cool, still wouldn't mind knowing how you "fold" a cube
3d softwares allow u to do this.... I'm learning but can't tell u the exact process yet sorry for replying so late btw
@@mim073 lol.. you are useless (after 9 years ahahahah)
@@blenderguy3250 lmao...I guess so but it can happen is all I meant to say
@@mim073 WHICH SOFTWARE DO YOU USING FOR THIS
@@bhushanmuluk9408 any software, try using blender. It's free
As a student just started learning architect and digital modeling, what he shows really fascinate me for the possibility of using algorism. Technology can push ourselves beyond our creativity. The column he made is purely the product on algorism it is cool. On the other hand, I feel taste of culture, sth that people can resonate, provoke is an essential element in building our environment. I really wonder and curious about what we will have for the future architecture.
These agorithms + 3d printers = amazing table top art
Wow, that was incredible. I was pretty impressed when he finally said that he'd managed to get them built.
A pure reflection of the underlying replication code of the universe. The universe is hardwired for this structuring and replication. From simplicity comes complexity.
Just amazing.
TED is almost ALWAYS brilliant but this one was incredibly inspiring to me. Breathtaking.
Exquisite! This is a trend becoming more prevalent as time goes on, acknowledging the limit of a human direct designer and instead emphasising designing the process.
this can be done easily in Blender 3D software : add a bevel modifyer on the cube, then a wireframe; make it fatter, add a wireframe modifyer again, a subsurf , and a displacement.
Tadaah ! you can make wild symmetric geometry in a few seconds !
The process described is *not* inspired "by nature", but by *mathematics* . Maths is generally agreed *not* to be a natural science, but rather a human-created philosophical system of describing phenomenon, very few of which are directly transferrable to evolutionary shaped forms that can be observed in nature. One way or another, folding a cube is as highly an artificial a process as it gets. I have to agree with my pre-posters: This has little practical value, it is art of art's sake. Which is fine by me if I see it in a spiffy SciFi movie, but certainly not in the building I work in. And that's not even addressing sustainability.
I agree perhaps about the sustainability and safety of certain structures created this way, but nature is mathematical. All living things and even the outer reaches of the galaxy are influenced by mathematical properties. The Fibonacci Sequence is clear and visible in nature from the golden spiral of a Nautilus shell to the logarithmic spiraling motion of the galaxies, nature and mathematics are very much in line with each other.
You can find perfect cubes and spheres in nature under extreme conditions though.
Your own questions have the potencial of answering themselves. Increased strenght with a tiny fraction of the material, Improved absortion, light absortion and conduction, embedded air cooling, extraction, etc... There is still a long way to go in development. Function following form is a very common thing in sience history.
im not an Indonesian guy, but in Indonesia, these sculptures can be hand-made carved in stones each and every small details of it. I've been once in Bali and i was just amazed by their detail stones walls and carvings. and they don't use 3d noise plugin. :D
It makes sense that these shapes look organic. Organisms create themselves from their DNA using simple, repeated processes, just like the computer creates these shapes.
This is the wonderful successor to Gaudi, HR. Giger, Dali, Escher,and Buckminster Fuller (and many other artists). This is their wildest dreams mixed with organic growth & algorithmic science made real.
Beautiful shapes inspired by nature... here is the big issue with this effort to bring it to life - with the modern design's focus on bio-mimicry and on reducing waste in manufacturing processes, my question would be: How sustainable is this type of architecture? and is printing an entire model out of polymer plastic sustainable and responsible? How do 3D printers fit into the cradle to cradle design? Just curious if anyone has answers....
Paulina Nowicka well the US Navy is attempting to build an entire 3D printed ship so....
Art has a cost my friend, maybe time, money etc
WELL, if you're trying to make organic shapes, you COULD just 'grow' these structures rather than build them. Of course, this would require some level of nanotechnology, but it's worth considering.
I don't know how original these ideas are, but it's a very illustrative example of the power of simple rules producing complex systems.
Technology check, Entertainment nope, Design check.
2/3. Which is better than 90% of TED. Nice work :)
Wishing the technology to physically manufacture these forms with much greater ease will come soon. Fascinating stuff.
good forms but i think the symmetry makes them static, almost as if to say theyve hit the uncanny valley of forms, parametric-ism however gives a more natural (nature like) appeal to forms .
tht was superb...i don't know how gaudi did it during his time....the designs reminded me of his forms...
Wow, you put in words something that I only had a vague sense of, and could never have expressed myself. Thanks!
Streatched in my capacity to imagine new forms. A beautiful glimpse in God's design.
This man has a great imagination of architecture.. Wish him all the luck with his project :)
That is incredibly amazing! Imagine PRINTING your own house!
indeed. but i wouldn't be surprised if the texture is partially generated. as hansmeyer mentioned, there is still a lot of tweeking required to create cool visuals as opposed to the 99% noise. terrains, for example, are mostly generated in the digital world now (like Avatar's landscape, which is made with Vue)
Reminds me of the work of Gaudi. Perhaps these methods could even be used to help finish his works.
I love the whole idea. ABS seems like the only practical material at the moment for 3D printing. At least that way it can be cleaned easily. Dusting the paper ones would be next to impossible.
Unreal and beautiful.
when i see vid's like this i remember that the slogan of ted is " spread the idea " :D
I recall when fractals were the big thing. They're very similar: fascinating, repetitive shapes with intricacies at all scales, all generated from relatively simple algorithms, and with proven examples in nature. What I don't recall were people running out and saying, "Hey, we gotta build stuff from this".
OK, I've got an open mind... What's the big difference here?
Yes fractal concepts are there... But experimenting and bringing that into reality is an amazing progression...with 3D printing, flying robots innumerable possibilities...
Hi guys, which software is used to do these miracles?
now we can use VR to virtually jump inside this world
The best art is unsettling.
These structures are beautiful, like something you could only conceive in a dream. Id love to live in a world surrounded by architecture that would make our modern cities look like stone age technology
Amazing, i've been teaching a generative arte course for 15 year old kids, and so many of what i've learned is embeded in what you say in this talk, so i wonder Could this be some kind of generative architecture?
Where can I download the algorithms?
First of all i want to say your voice is god level soothing for me
Regardless, he has a point: as the guy said - this is incredibly labour intensive and impractical. I'd love to see this type of thing become a reality - a new architectural era, but how are you supposed to make one that would be truly useful? Those columns are holding up how much weight? I can't see them bearing too much of a load.
What software did he use to create those forms?
processing
AutoCAD
Or better yet. download Mandelbulb 3D fractal software and you can achieve the same type of forms.
Unlike almost every TED speaker, I liked his voice trough the whole presentation. He would make a nice job working at movies. Peace
early application for ANYTHING is always a grey area until years later when we look back and say "i dont know how i would live without that". do you really think when electricity was first being developed the average person thought a lightening bolt travelling down a kite would be what it is today? this is why noble prizes are typically given to discoveries that were made years ago--because the significance is not solidified until later.
Dam I love fractals! Fractal art in real world?... *dies from awesome*
This is the niche of 3D printers. Creating objects of such detail that they would take a lifetime to produce in the physical world, but a computer could produce thousands... beautiful.
I really want to be a parametric architect! I wonder what comes after parametric architecture? How long will I have to wait to find out?
Who would want to live with those complex structures in their house? It would feel like being inside an alien spaceship
Thank u all very much
Why? These are simple slices which can be processed by any computer with a decent CPU. The secred behind it to render one slice at a time. The problem is only that there is no printer in the world that could possibly create the final form in one process, because its way too complex for it to keep up.
the cylinder input looks badass
wow ! amazing algorithm technology by TED . Great job ;)
This.... this is creativity
good explanation .... I like ....
Within the imagination it is to take all the elements for development ........
It's pretty but what about functionality? When nature does something it's usually for a reason. Increased strength, greater surface area for memory, cooling or heating, light gathering, improved hearing, improved adsorption.... What functional benefit can you add to your pretty columns? Otherwise they are just dust collectors.
Why abs for huge columns ? I'd use a finer quality large scale printer that can extrude some kind of mix of cement and gypsum .
I have difficulties to understand the meaning of this talk.
It's called art. You may have heard of it. We make sound for sounds sake, and call it Music. We arrange words into literature not for functionality, but for what it says to us. Why can't we have architecture for architectures sake?
i have a very interesting drawing based on the symetrry of the square making a strange fractal shape
It's so baroque baby! Reminds me of the image of a fly as visualized by an electron microscope. This is the stuff from which nightmares unfold.
My argument was that because Christians (including clerics) practised science openly, and they didn't receive any opposition for practicing science qua science, then that must mean that the Church has not been opposed to science. If it were, you could imagine it rebuking Christian scientists simply because they practiced science. But no such thing happened. The fact that the Church didn't let them leave the Church, as you pointed out, does not refute my conclusion. In fact, it supports it.
imagine the number of polygons on a single column. most people would lag out.
Cylindrical video screens should make it possible to have the shapes rendered in real time. Then the columns could be changed between simple and complex as well as intricate color patterns or monochromatic etc. Interesting.
Is there a way to do this in Blender? Can anyone tell me?
Nothing quite like cleaning dirt out of a fractal....
They're interesting forms, but I personally find their structural qualities on a micro scale to be more interesting than their overall appearance.
How do you dust them?
accurate and beautifully said!
I sort of have to agree with you there... the only way this could be relevant is if combined with 3D printers to physically render these designs... and then it couldn't be called art, because it isn't the product of an artist, but of an algorithm. Doing this would also cheapen actual art.
Doctor Strange: Write that down! Write that down!
This guy needs to be in Hollywood working on movie sets not in the field of architecture.
+G rwd why does the guy with a sp00by skull&flame picture, even have that opinion?
watch imdb.com/title/tt2798920/
That looks amazing.
oooooh yeah. Love this stuff!
They look perfect for the Chronicles of Ridick universe!
At work we get plans from upstairs that fit perfect (on computer) .On the shop floor, not so much..
Very clever idea. I tip my hat to you sir.
His barber has clearly made unimaginable shapes with that hair....
Think about the Locus hives from gears of war 2, thats what the columns reminded me of
16 million facets it quite high, yes with decent cpu/gpu it is very possible, but it is much higher than an average computer, my schools graphics computers tend to crash at about 4 million facets
Creationists would refute that this is possible because they would call it, 'increasing information' without intelligently designing it.
the thought is great! but i have a new idea, i think the most important thing is to create a method to construct these shapes(not using 3D printing but a method which is also compatible with your physical laws)
Robotics
Your "cool so what?" comment just came off as super douchey, ya know? That's probably why it was downvoted by so many people.
What I meant was...if you think people are just blown away by complex cool shapes...then you're totally missing the point altogether. I could explain it to you, but it would take more than a youtube comment. There's WAY more to this stuff than what you are talking about.
As for it not mattering what you do. How does that NOT matter? It matters very much...
I'm pretty sure such algorithms have been used for 20-30 years in computer graphics as a way of efficiently producing landscapes which look like, well, natural landscapes. So the ideas presented here are hardly new... maybe in architecture they are.
"If we as architects begin to think about designing not the object, but a process to generate objects"
I think Gaudi would have loved this program.
Your initial comment explicitly mentioned that "the Church", and I explicitly mentioned in my reply that the *Church* vs science characterisation is a bad one. From the start this has been about *the Church* and science and I have been arguing about *the Church* the whole time, which I take to mean all of Christianity ever. You introduced the word religion at a later time. Unless you take 'church' to mean Islam and all religion, or a recent localised branch of Christianity, get back on topic.
Interesting, not sure if I'd want to live with that sort of design. I prefer the minimalistic, these structures are just far to intricate for me to fully enjoy.
"What would happen if we got rid of all of our references and used nature as a reference?"
But imagine a capitol city with sky scrapers and complexes that looked like these forms, it would be stunning, certainly it would make our cities look like they were from the stone age
Inspired by cell division. Awesome. If only we could find ways to grow buildings.
Am I the only one thinking about the amazing power the computer must of had?
You never moved a finger in your household, did you?
There are things called "water hose", "vacuum cleaner" and "compressed air blower"! ^^
Anyone knows how to code this on grasshopper ?
i want these columns so bad ;_;
Very true.
We can also recombine molecules into cute compilations that may or may not be poisonous. Form without consideration to purpose. Maybe that is what people are to God.
The shapes remind me of viral capsules more than living forms.
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Theoretically, one could program these shapes to evolve under a physics simulator.
how about organism living structure. process to generate
Whats really interesting to me is the possibility of scaling this. At First, i thought this would be an amazing scifi City scape😱
So these are basically fractal patterns?
Aesthetics are just as important as function.
I see the form, but where's the function?
I love you TED :-)
СТРОИТЕЛЬСТВО ФОРМ, НЕ ПОДДАЮЩИХСЯ ВООБРАЖЕНИЮ
Вдохновленный биоэпосом деления клеток, Майкл Хансмайер пишет алгоритмы дизайна зверски увлекательных видов и формы с миллионами граней. Ни один человек не может составить их рукой, но они работоспособны. И они могут произвести революцию мировых архитектурных формаций и архетипов.
Майкл Хансмайер архитектор и программист, который исследует использование алгоритмов и вычислений для создания архитектурной формы.