Pro Wrestlers on Negotiating WWE Contracts with Vince McMahon
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I can't believe how civilized Sabu is.... he was an animal in ECW... and I say this in an awesome way.
He looks like one of my late Uncles who drove motorcycles...SABU WAS LEGIT.
He's not always so civilized.
He threw a lawn chair at me when I was 11
I met sabu a few times . dude was nice af. Shook my hand we chopped it up and smoked a joint. Small house in WI.
Smoked a joint with him after a show he worked for us lol
Good good dude
Always love hearing jessie Ventura tell stories.
It's his voice.
He's a true legend
I can't hear him without hearing Anthony Cumia's "I was a Navy SEAL and a governor"
Bring a little Minnesota to the baja....I call it Baja-sota.....
I burned one with Sabu at a independent show.. very nice, down to earth guy!
Dirty crackhead
Bro that’s sick as fuuuuuuuck
Idk who Id wanna smoke with more than Sabu tbh
People I wanna smoke with...
Sabu
RVD
Riddle
New Jack
Hmmmmm who else?
@@devins8
Lmao New Jack? Nah bruh he'd prolly snap in the middle of the sess. 😂😂
Hacksaw Jim duggan
@@devins8 I think New Jack was more into coke and pills lol.
It must feel good to know when you have Ace In your sleeve against Vince McMahon knowing that you control which way it's going to go!
Vince is infamous for always having Ace up his sleeve and controlling the narrative and where he wants it to go!
Respect to Jesse Ventura
Ask bret
Imagine Sabu as The Sultan.. feuding with Taker and Mankind. That would have been interesting.
Sabu could have worked for four years and then left
That could have been good
@@kaytrout3836 Out of all the dumb gimmicks The Sultan would have actually fit Sabu well, with the mask and not talking, bringing his hardcore style. It would have worked.
no go
Dominic Omegon I thought the same when I heard it. With his hardcore style he would have gotten a couple years out of it, maybe a ic run
$250,000 in 1995 was ALOT of money. Vince wanted Sabu BAD... I cannot believe he declined that for ECW...
I admire his loyalty, sad that Heyman apparently screwed him over
Even if Saba was asked to dress as Doink the clown he should have taken the job.
Id have to hear Vince McMahon say he offered him that kind of money to believe it.
He’s an idiot. That’s indeed a lot of money and for what? You got to take care of you ultimately. F the fans.
Loyal asf
Buff thinks it’s still 1997. He’s been deluded about his actual contributions to wrestling for over 2 decades. Was a midcarder that had 3 good years, but will tell you he was as big as Hogan if you let him.
Agree. For us who actually witnessed him and saw his fights, we know he was no bigger than the likes of Disco Inferno. Heck, even Disco Inferno had more nostalgic value. That dance and stupid, smug look is notorious.
It is 1997 bro.
To me it'll always be 1996!!!
@@thegamersguild9953 The face that you mention Disco Inferno let me know you are a hardcore 90's WWF/WCW fan.
Marcus Bagwell
Animal is a saint for dealing with Hawk for all those yrs. Hawk seems like he could be a miserable prick on a consistent basis
Superstars seem criminally underpaid even today.
Bag well and those dumb hats of his. He’s always looked ridiculous wearing those.
Bull Buchanan bb and bb.
Uncle Sweets He was over
Relationships are sometimes bigger than 💰.
Knowing someone's name can seal the deal. The territories messed over their talent especially the 💰
The bizness is just that...a bizness
Quoth the Raven “Nevermore.” Loved his emo ass routines, then you learn when he takes Canyon to meet his parents and home and he's all RICH and SHIT! LOL! CLASSIC.
Bro Raven actually went to school to be lawyer and passed the bar bt gave it up for wrestling now that’s classic
@@GhillieSuitGang I had to look this up because if true it would make him about one of the dumbest people alive, but it's not true. He wanted to be a lawyer but only got as far as getting a crimnal justice degree, which can be a first step but it is not at all the same as a law degree and he never passed or even took the bar because he never went to law school.
A E thank you for clarifying that, now I know the facts Bt hey he’s not stupid and he’s smart enuff to get a degree, how and why he chose wrestling is a mystery
@@GhillieSuitGang because he made more money in wrestling than he would have in the criminal justice system.
There should be a movie on jesse ventura
There already is.
"We don't hire talent we create talent" that's what's wrong with wwe
Yeah the most recent victim of that is Shinsuke, such good gimmick and talent just botched to hell
It's a lie tho because they've failed to create stars and have a long history of stealing talent from other promotions.
@@KingKaper he needs to not sign a new contract no matter how much it pays and go back to New Japan!
Because they then have the rights to that character and own it, why the rock ended up buying his name out at some point because he knew it was his and it was him
@@dnakatomiuk It’s not just the rights. Sometimes they make the wrestler change their whole gimmick. Jon Moxley was a deranged and violent person. Dean Ambrose was a wacky character.
Buff Bagwells mom called Buffs work to call in sick for him so he was able to do this!!!
This video popped in my recommendations at a very convenient time lol.
1:28 Sabu Gronkowski
Wow sabu gave up quarter of a mil back then in the mid 90's!? Thats nuts.
He lies, that figure is way too high for a new guy for that time.
@@idkbro8470 dude said he regrets that decision 😂😂
Cocaine is a hellavu drug
Not so sure how guaranteed that $ really was back then.
malcorub Sabus name hold weight in at any stage
Sabu should be in the WWE Hall of Fame.
Francisco Gomez hopefully all the ECW legends get in someday. Him, RVD, Dreamer, Sandman, Shane, Tazz, all of them. The only one I think will never get in is New Jack for obvious reasons. That whole run for ECW was legendary. Some of those guys may not have been the best workers you’ve ever seen but the characters were larger than life.
@Alan Smithee his uncle is the original sheik
Sabu has said..He does not want in the HOF..Called it fake..I will try and find the interview
Victor Skywalker they dont care if the do it its because the money the wwe hof is a joke snoop dog is in it before them so yeah
Sabu in 2021 Future Hall of Fame
I feel like Buddy Landel did not get Shane Helms' reference, lmao!!!!
I really didn't like that angle the wwf did with hawk when he was having trouble with alcohol.
what incident occured with Hawk at Wembley Stadium, i think Animal said in 92? I was only familiar with the Road Warriors while they were in the NWA.
Yeah I feel the same.
In Predator, Jesse's arms were bigger than Arnold's.
That’s not true.
Arnold had more testosterone in one finger than most of them, then Sonny Landham was the true testosterone beast!
Rui Luz what’s the deal with that guy?
In the commentary Jesse explains the measurements of the biceps.....but more amusing are...the spitting tobacco story!...and Arnold’s love of cigars!
Highly doubt it
Gotta love Jessie
"I've been governor, a Navy seal, a fighter."
Northy massively underrated show, might have to go back and watch it soon, see how well it’s aged
I wish he’d run for president.
Jesse is a damn legend!
The best ringside announcer IMO. Never forget his catch phase "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always, always cheat."
Yes..yes he is
Fuck him. He sued Chris Kyle
Stan Halen that’s what happens when you spread lies in your autobiography. It’s called DEFAMATION
Roughgooch wrestling isn’t real
If wrestling went unionized things would be different
Nzo is so talented and if he wanted to go to AEW he would be a superstar there. When Cass gets back on track from drug addiction i believe they will be in AEW
14:27 Love Shane's cameo. 😂
Raven: "Ya know..."
Taking lessons from Steiner, are we?
Sabu is a REAL ASS MAN! Damn!
The reason they wanted to create a new gimmick for Sabu is because the WWE wants to own the intellectual property, it's all trademarking.
Vince is a businessman. You make the money and he makes you famous. It's up to the wrestler to take care of his future. Simple as that.
Lol obviously it isn't as simple as that.
@@juliusc.8 stay away from drugs and you'll be alright
Exactly, people are just too stupid to see it’s not on vince go get you over it’s on the wrestler
They are marks who believe the dirt sheets egocentric excuse-making angry wrestlers that blame him constantly and think everyone should be a top guy 😂
I'm sure you meant it's up to the wrestlers to do what he says.
@@Nestle245 nope. He provides you a role in the company. He pays a pile of money that you wouldn't earn in a lifetime.You are responsible with that money for yourself. You blow your money away. You're fault.
Like Jesse.....I grew up in Minnesota and watched the AWA. However...WWF was far better production values! More glitz. More cartoony perhaps....but it was....sexier...different styles.....better! And mostly previous AWA wrestlers anyway! Jesse was a great performer....and a fine governor! Bobby Henan was great too! Both delivered the BEST heel commentary on matches......EVER!
Jessie The Body Ventura should of been called Jessie The Genius Ventura because the guy always had a plan. I remember Jessie in the Running Man.
250k for sabu in 1995 Wow that's got to be like 500k in 2020 money.
Totally enjoy watching these shoots. I gotta say, This is the first time I’ve heard Enzo aka NZO speak out of character and I’m shocked lol! Dude seems really chill and intelligent as well. I was never an Enzo fan, hell I was happy when Big Cass turned heel and went solo. But I will say Enzo’s heel run as the Cruiserweight champion was hilarious and entertaining as hell. Always loved how he sold when getting beat up…that blank stare and looking limp and ragged on the mat lol!!! Also, his feud with Rusev was good. That skit with him and Lana in the Hotel was good…. Still can’t believe he got Liv Morgan though🥴😂😂
Sabu is just fucking different man gotta respect him he’s still top 10 easily
I think enzo is right about staying in character...brock is always in character....cena is always in character...ronda stays in character when she was a heel..stone cold stayed in character...vince respects people who stay in character cuz its so rare that anyone does it...so its no coinsidence top guys stay in character about vince
If that's true, I bet he really regrets not signing MJF when he had the chance.
@@JSchaffer214 who?
miki Baer how do you know they stay in character you there when him and John cena are having 1 on 1s?
@@yourmomsgoat5840 yea your right no one knows about cena and vince personal relationship
miki Baer I get what your saying tho there a lot more professional than 95% of wrestlers
Buddy Landell was one Kool cat! 👍
I like listening to Raven speak, about to go on a binge after this!
Reminds me of mr perfect when he speaks
Sabu's uncle was the real original legendary Sheikh, Ed Farhat. Why in hell would Sabu disrespect his uncles legacy by portraying the Iron Sheik to be his uncle? In Iran there are no Sheiks anyways. . I've gained so much respect for Sabu for not compromising his values. RIP to Ed Farhat the real Sheik.
Damn Raven looked like he was jammin on oxy’s. Too bad he seems like a super smart / creative talent.
Vince: here's a bag of cocaine n your contract. Congrats!! Sabu🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That is wild Jessie. I sat next to Mr Upshaw on a flight as well and he was speaking about Unions. That is wild.
I want to have Jesse Ventura's voice
Man thats fucking loyal of sabu in 95 i was 2 years old thats like a 1mil contract today or atleast 750,000
Can you imagine an Rey Mysterio & Sabu beef on wwe
The AEW Galaxy…where YOU can become a “MegaStar” !!!
7:14 “that’s one of my questions” 😑
So annoying!
Raven's mind works so much faster than the average person can speak...i understand
so buff gets 80 grand for 2 months but only expects 250 grand for 12 months -i might not be the smartest at adding but something dont add up there
I thought the same thing but I think it since Vince bought our WCW he had to honor their contracts and that’s what both Bagwell was talking about like getting paid for being bought out and just chilling at home or come to work and say scrap the old contract and sign a new one I don’t know cocaine is a hell of a drug
I love hearing Jesse Ventura talk about the business. Imagine if Hulk hadn’t snitched about the unionising idea? Would be a different world today.
Sabu is too real
Buff hit the bag on cam 😂
When it comes to WWE, look deep before you leap IJS.
Soooooooo. Vince is a very good business man....? I mean shit thats what i got from all this.
Sabu talks like Mike Tyson
Damn Sabu was loyal 😳 Almost to a fault.
ECW made Sabu a household name. Before watching ECW i had no clue who sabu was but i heard his name many times before.
No the real reason Sabu turned WWE down and stuck with ECW was because he didnt wanna stop doing drugs
I saw randy Orton's jaw swinging the other day. WWE do drugs to.
@@kevinthompson6864 lololololololol
They didn't drug text back in 94/95 like wen he said. So thats not the reason.
@@reubenw59 haha wtf are you saying? They absolutely drug tested in 95 after that steroid lawsuit. You must not remember Ultimate Warrior failing a drug test in 93 and how Nash and Hall always said they tried to dodge the wellness policy during that time. They most certainly were drug testing
@@reubenw59 it was WCW that didnt give a rats arse
Damn Raven can't remember nothing😂
Ya hes just rambling on and on
The amount of drugs he has done over the years I'm surprised he's even alive 😂
Steve austin is the reason buff got fired ive heard it on several podcasters
(NZO) remind me of a Meth head his movement the looks in his eyes
Cocaine. The mouth movement and gum too
The Iron Sheik isn't a part of the Anoa'i family. The Sultan was Rikishi.
Great clip
Nzo could of been more respectful and not chomping on chewing gum who does he think he Is
Bagwells got that coke voice going. Lol
lol
I got sad when I saw animal 😔😔😔 RIP road warriors
I love Sabu, but i have a hard time believing he was offered 250K in 94 or 95...
I miss Enzo :(
Dream team I would love to see Buff Bagwell team up with Scotty 2 Hottie
Nzo certified G
Enzo sound completely different
Sabu should've taken Vince's deal sometimes it's ok to sell out he would have done great there
That Enzo always annoyed me!
Ventura says he's such a straight up man, but he did Verne Gagne extremely dirty by not giving him a proper notice.
What happened when Hawk flipped out in summerslam 92?
Too bad Buff Bagwell forgot no thing when he was negotiating, that he was Buff Bagwell
Civil lawsuit for MONOPOLIZING the wrestling industry... i miss WCW... WCW would have put a hurt on WWE, possibly putting them out of business by now.... Turner Network had gold and threw it away.
Buff and Enzo making themselves out to be something they were not. LOL
WWE was basically the circus 🎪 for us, those who couldn't make it to Las Vegas for Cirque Du, but WWE was there for us.
I feel like there is reason Vince fired Bagwell. Did he try talk shit about vince?
@@kevintweedlie That is hilarious. How does a grown man let his mother call in sick for him?
George Smith - Beginning until 1:21
Sabu - 1:22
Jesse Ventura - 4:23
Buff Bagwell - 9:00
nZo - 11:21
Buddy Landel - 14:02
Road Warrior Animal - 15:28
Raven - 19:00
Black Bart - 24:15
#GoodStuff, thank you for posting...
How did you do that?
@@poorchristopher15 Pretend like you're telling time, but without writing am or pm; but simply 12:14... ... ... PM, lol...I was bored and lazy (not wanting to watch the entire video every time to revisit what each superstar had to say), but also interested in what different wrestlers had to share...
@@outcast668 heroes, capes..... you know, you know the thing.
.. George South
After seeing this, I respect Sabu even more. What an attitude.
He actually said in another interview he regrets it paul Heyman told them they would make millions and merchandise when ecw blew up big never happened always take guarantee in life
soren-- you isn't in, self-- en= plural-- Satanist. And you is, in Sweten!
@Metropcs Metropcs he didnt feel he would be happy with less freedom. He came in later though which opened peoples eyes who didnt know much about ECW.
Considering how insane Sheik was he probably would've beat the shit out of him. Sheik was one of those old school guys you didn't cross.
@Metropcs Metropcs I know that, that's why I said he would beat Sabu's ass instead of outright killing him.
How many lines did you do before this interview?
Buff - "All of it"
Ask Sean Oliver, he could tell ya about little old Marcus!
Don’t believe a word Enzo says
"Why did you stay with ECW?"
SABU: "BLOW"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Metropcs Metropcs Eh since he said he regrets not going i agree but if he stood by it you could not claim stupidity.
Adam Smith that was quite the dumb comment. Just because you feel bad about something dumb you’ve done in your past doesn’t automatically change it to no longer being dumb. If you regret your comment it doesn’t change how idiotic it was.
What a terrible career move for Sabu lol.
He liked weed not blow
Bagwell looking like he's coked out of his mind..lol
Was it because of the white powdery substance around his right nostril lol?
Its the pills
How sabu explain how vince warned him about ECW`S future means how damn good vince was back in the day.
LOPS666Orange if a company only lasts 4 years then yes at any point it “could be gone tomorrow” stop trying to find things to argue about you aren’t right
@The618Crew right
So whenever Jessie gets interviewed, do the hosts always provide him a rocking chair?
It's a self-comfort reaction. Something in his story is either embellished, fabricated, or left out. His embracing himself and constant rocking help ease the internal discomfort of lying.
no he has always had a tick ever since his younger days
@@grayken9512 bruh I read your comment in Jesse's voice lmao
You notice how he’s always in some type of legal battle with someone
Lol, he rocks when he’s relaxed and talking about happy things, you’ll notice he stops as soon as the conversation turns serious. Most people are opposite, moving more when they are serious. Jesse has been through SEAL training
Jesse is right - they need to unionize like the NFLPA, MLBPA, etc.
mae2759 PA ?! Lol
@@misterunperfect4438 "Player's Association". It's their union in all the major sports leagues.
@Randall Glatt At the very least they should be classified as employees so they don't have to pay double taxes like independent contractors do and can also get 401k etc.
This would end up being detrimental in all likelihood. Wwe and AEW could roll with it but all the other smaller companies and independents would tank because wrestlers would have to be in those unions and the small entities can’t afford that. And would guarantee basically two options to work period. Nice in theory but unrealistic.
@@Matt-cr4vvbut there’s small indie movies that are non unionized still around today
Jess Ventura is so awesome. Honestly I haven't seen much of him wrestling but I remember my dad liked him. Don't care how he is as a wrestler, but as a man he's of the highest integrity and honor
had no idea that The Goon was Wild Bill Irwin. Used to love watching him wrestle in WCCW
It almost was Jericho...whoa..
Buff "I can't live on 175 k and pay my bills" ......does anyone feel sorry for this guy 😂😂😂
Don't forget the wcw money he had.
@@chrisfellows650 yeah and see what happens to wcw ran outta business
Well once he had over 1million per year
Now he is getting paid for sex/being a gigolo. How far he has come.. lol From buff the stuff to "stuff" in the buff! Lol
keep in mind, he would not get 175 k after taxes, not to mention having to pay for hotels and car rentals. thats a hell of a paycut considering what he was making in wcw
No budy & I mean no budy pulled off as good of a guaranteed contract as hunter Hurst helmsley!
Him jumping ship from beautiful Chyna to stuck up snobby brat stephanie was his greatest accomplishment ever lol
We don't hire talent. We create talent. Great line.
Why didn’t Vince set up deals like 90% of your salary based on your merchandising, cause that’s the fans money not Vince’s money, then 10% of ticket sales.
Great line for a company that cares more about money than wrestling or the employees, or even the fans.
Starting to really show these days.
At this rate, Vonce will still be alive to watch his empire crumble.
It's never been a creative ideal, it's been a talent relations and negotiations ideal. They get to hold it over your head and short change you, and when you try to stand up for yourself, they come back with "you were nothing before we made you"
That's why wrestlers like Jon Moxley, CM Punk, Taz, and even Corey, etc. could walk away and shoot on WWE, because they already had a name, and couldnt be made to feel like they owed something to WWE.
Because they want to own the rights
@John Doe they created stone cold, the Rock, the undertaker, hulk Hogan, razor Ramon, Shawn Micheals dude are u drunk
@John Doe every wrestler you named got big because of the WWE . nobody knew who they were before the WWE lol. So I'm guessing Kane got big in WCW 2 or the undertaker or stone cold Steve Austin lol. Stone cold looked like a gay porn Star in WCW tell WWE fixed up and gave him a gimmick
I can listen to Jesse Ventura talk all day.
Same
I love how Ventura always shakes around; i know the real cause... But for me it looks like he's just pumped to tell a story hehe.
😄😂😄😂👍
He always rocks back n forth. Kind of a tick he has. But I love to hear his stories, the dude is an absolute legend. In ring was too short. He should of been Hogans nemesis. He was for a spell, a very good one too!
Gustavo Miani, so what’s the “real cause” of his shaking around?
@@MSH786 going to ask the same thing.
Its a native American shamans rock like monks..he's on frequency
Let me tell you something about Vince...
When Vince came to Melbourne , Australia in 2002 to promote the Global Warning Tour, he did a quick press conference. About 20 of us mega fans waited outside the building for a chance to meet and greet Vince. When he walked out, he could have simply entered his limo. But no...
Vince shook everyone's hand and took photos. He was in NO HURRY to leave.
As I shook his hand, said: "thanks for entertaining us for so long". Vince said: "and thank you sir for your ongoing support".
Vince is a true gentleman! 100% respect !!!!
All you did was shake his hand for like 5 seconds. Big deal.
I quit TH-cam exactly
These billionaire guys like Vince will make an effort to dish out token gestures like this because they understand how easily impressed most people are and they just want a bit of recognition.
Ooohhh he shook and knows my name. So what? Big deal.
When it comes to shit that counts i.e contract time, he’ll fuck you over and make you squirm. He’s an ego maniac and probably a psychopath.
@@robertstraw9881 What else are you expecting him to do? Make you breakfast? Get out of here.
Disregard the negative Nancies, that was a nice anecdote. Thanks for sharing.
i honestly wish the Jesse Ventura unionization worked
Ahhh the great unionization of Minotanka. The unionization of Bajasota.
Jesses a legend. Wrestler, movie star, governor...what a man. 2 of Arnie’s best films, Running Man, Predator ✌🏾
And a Mongol Motorcycle Club member
Arnold was in nothing but hits in those days but I disagree that those two are his best. I think total recall and Terminator 2 are his best. But yeah that's not putting down those two films as they were great, as were commando, Conan the barbarian, true lies, the original Terminator etc etc. He's had such a career in movies and I don't think anybody will ever have a streak like that again. By the late 90s though it got....bad.
And the best commentator
sleazyfellow Let's not forget one of my personal favorites: Last action hero
And a Navy Seal.
That picture of Young Rikishi is haunting me
That's was when he had that godawful "Sultan" gimmick