I recorded parkour gameplay in Valhalla, aligning it with Mirage's new parkour footage for comparison. After watching this, what are your thoughts on Mirage's parkour gameplay compared to Valhalla's?
@@Eternal-Spectrum That's funny that now they are trying to bring back old fans to the game like this, after they said "We don't care" And also funny that people happy about Assassins stuff .. not magic.. a hope Ubisoft realize that old fans more than they think, and they should consider it and make a normal game about parkour and assassinations using stealth, but I dont think they can develop any game now..
The difference in parkour movement seem subtle if any. I guess they mainly changed the environment to facilitate parkour more in Mirage compared to Valhalla.
Right on target. The movement isn’t really any different aside from being sped up. But if you look closely in the mirage footage there is actually alot of points where you can branch off of whatever path your on. To go up, down, left, and right. Which you don’t see in Valhalla. There is only one path you can go down and it doesn’t much matter weather you want to go up or down. Where in mirage you can see two times where the player manually goes down allowing you to transverse through 3 dimensions. Up, down, left, and right.
@@nikshakya7389o watch the developers video on that, they literally just speed up the movement and add some parkour features that were in Origins but lost in Odyssey and Valhalla.
It’s because they aren’t. What makes Mirage an improvement over Valhalla is the fact that there is simply more options with parkour than Valhalla. It’s the same parkour system, just a better world design to go with it.
They look identical to me, I don’t know what they mean by making the parkour faster or smoother. Maybe the vaulting is smoother but that’s about it for the parkour.
There's a definitely a difference as Basim is clearly faster but the difference isn't huge at all. Though Baghdad is more compact and buildings are designed with parkour in mind so there's gonna be a lot more opportunity to parkour.
just started playing through original and ezio games again, realized how much more attention to detail and complex parkour level design are in those compared to the new trilogy. They are so much more dynamic with ejecting and catch ledge.
Some people overlook it because the animations aren't as flashy as something like Unity but from a mechanical standpoint we never saw that level of depth and freedom again.
you are correct, in the Ezio trilogy you could get some what creative with the parkour. The new ones became to easy creating a one way path of scaling.
the Altair and Ezio games had the best challenging parkour system all the latest games does parkour with just moving forward on one button and always jumps towards ledge or places designed as spots but the older games had more reacting parkour , one wrong jump and you can fall off
Hey game dev here, it seems what they’re missing in this game is shorter animation transitions hopping across the bars. There’s like a little pause instead of being a smooth blend into the following jump. Which makes the character feel weighty and kills illusion of flow. Also when the character is walking across a narrow platform, he does this slow crouch walk that also kills momentum completely. It’s basically the same parkour from Valhalla
thanks, i was looking for this. I dont have that much problem with the new games except the way they "pause" when they run through beams. I know it's supposed to mimic how parkour people pause and regain balance but Assassins are supposed to be as fast as the wind you won't even notice their shadow. but still, as long as they give a good story, I'm go for it.
The 'climb up'-animation is faster with Basim. He just immediately jumps up, whereas Eivor briefly pauses, or simply climbs up slower. Although, I hold on to my theory that his parkour improves as his rank improves. Besides, the gameplay shown was in still in development, so maybe they'll hear the people complaining, and modify it to be faster.
@@maxm.m.7219 I was having the same thoughts of the parkour improvement while ranking up but I am not sure because it is not mentioned by any of Ubisoft Devs
As I can see, the parkour is still the same in both the games and I finally realised that Valhalla's environment was the main problem that why people hated it's Parkour. Also the fluidity and complexity mechanics are absent from the old AC games like Unity, Ezio trilogy, etc. I am not hoping anything but I still wish the devs could add the parkour physics and animation from Unity and older AC games as Mirage is still a work in progress (or they can add it as a future update in the game).
The map design will show players how mechanicly dry and unfun the rpg parkour system is. It will certainly improve the experience a bit, having a huge dense city to climb around, but having no real way to do anything unique aside from following the set pathes, it will not be as good as the old games.
If you think that’s why people hated it’s parkour then you’ve really haven’t been paying attention. Compare Unity’s parkour to Origina, Odyssey and Valhalla. Then you’ll understand why people hate it. Look at the combat in All the AC games starting from Unity and before Unity and compare it to Origins-Valhalla. Then you’ll understand. For some reason Ubisoft thought if they downgraded the parkour and changed to combat to some weird World of Warcraft style of combat then people would like it. Strange.
@@Regalieth9143 Ironically enough, people did like it because of the combat changes lol... the new rpg trilogy is only hated on the internet, it increased the franchise popularity by a lot. So not strange at all.
@@Noctuam734 Really? Show me who these people are then, because all I’ve been hearing, mainly when Odyssey came out is how much they steered from the older games. How they’ve downgraded the Free Flow parkour and changed the combat. Out of 20, there’s probably 2 people That’ll say they like the games. You’re one of the very few.
@@Noctuam734 I’ll get 15 individuals right now to hop on this thread and tell you how much they disliked those new mainline rpg assassin’s creed games.
One thing I feel nobody has noticed is that every single time they do parkour in the video, it is never at Basim’s full speed. In Valhalla you could jog forward and still parkour, it’s the same for this game. Throughout 99% of the demonstration they never press the sprint button, HOWEVER, after Basim kills the guy who shoots down his bird, he crosses a rope with full speed, scales up a wall pretty fast, and runs foward on the roof stupidly quick. That run speed on the roof right there, IS the full speed on display, they just for some reason wanted to show it slowly first which I never understand why demonstrative videos like these do that but aye, just thought i’d point that out somewhere
Basim seems a bit lighter and more nimble than Eivor/Eyvar despite the basic animations being the same. I think the tweaking was just enough so as to get rid of the unnecessary weight pulling you down every time you made a leap in Valhalla. Its not the same as Unity, nor will it ever be in an engine like this, but i hope we can have a decent parkour experience with what technical means are available to us.
I have absolutely no idea how Unisoft made perfectly smoothly flapping ropes in Unity, and abandoned it in all new games after it, it is such a huge visual thing, almost like they don't play the game
How did they lie? Ubisoft's head production director (Anne Laure Condamine) explained in an interview what Ubisoft is doing with Assassins Creed Mirage and she said they are not going back to the old school gameplay mechanics but will will add old features like hiding places and bribing officials and guards, but the game will still have the RPG style movement parkour and fighting, I will have new obstacles and interactive environments plus new abilities because Basim is the reincarnated ISU Loki.
@@anthonygiangreco3621people like to pretend that they never said they would improve parkour. It’s crazy. The whole lead up to this game was about parkour. Wether you all want to deny it like it never happened that’s up to you
@@dionpierre5847 no it wasn't. People need to stop saying Assassins Creed is getting back to their roots, they never left their roots. Ubisoft's head production director Anne Laure Condamine explained everything Ubisoft is doing with Mirage, and she said Mirage is going to be a new version of the RPG style gameplay from Origins Odyssey and Valhalla, it will have more obstacles to vault over and new environments to interact with, and Basim will have special abilities because he is the reincarnated ISU Loki.
@@anthonygiangreco3621 🤣 they never left their roots? First off Ubisoft is the one saying that not the people and it’s clear they left and abandoned what made assassins creed great a long time ago. And what you are referring to is after the gameplay dropped. They can’t drop the gameplay and continue to lie about how parkour was supposed to be improved. And look at you prop up basims bullshi magic that no one likes. Once again abandoning their roots. You sound like an Ubisoft employee or you’re getting paid to promote the game. The game looks great but it isn’t what they said it would be
Literally nothing changed about the parkour, but that's not a bad thing. I'm just glad you can traverse the city without having to touch the ground anymore which was always one of my favorite things about Assassin's Creed.
Honestly, I keep noticing a pattern within the AC fanbase where whenever a new game is announced they always try to look at the minor details to predetermine whether it's good or bad and regardless they hate on it anyways. From the look of it, Mirage's movement is more fluid and responsive but that could also be due to a change in environment.
Idk the gameplay looks different than the trailer. Seems as if basims pole swing was also faster at the playstation fest trailer. And that the camera moved along with the swings. This just looked mehh.
I agree, and also on the play station trailer, he is in his master assassin robes. Maybe that implies he will be faster and get better at parkour as he progresses? I would hope but we’ll see
It's just slightly faster, hopefully they smooth out the animation a bit because it looks like Basim "sticks" to what he lands on. Other than that it's the city that will make a difference, it's just so much more dense than what Valhalla had
I just replayed assassins creed 3 and it looks identical to that... They rehash the same animations for every game. Every new game is basically just a new map with a new story on the same game.
You can tell Basim wasn't moving as fast as he could have. And that's backed by the fact that if you watch the full gameplay they have him jogging through the whole thing until toward the end where, for a brief moment, he begins to sprint. I would say that the pause before leaping to another platform is hopefully because of them not having him moving at full speed in the showcase. But that's probably just how they designed the mechanics honestly. My main pet peeve is with that awful zip-line with almost bare hands, that shouldn't even be a thing.
Im an old fan of the old Parkour system back in the Altair and Ezio generation. I also think The Black Flag Edward parkour system also very good too. I dont like Unity parkour for some reason: + Animation very decent but lack of realistic approach - Superhuman jump , climbing too fast - There a re no sign of holding breath between each climb -> made it ver fake and not keen in the eyes. + Glitchy Parkour up and down system. The Fourth AC generation (trio modern ac from Origin to Vahalla) reduce flashy move and comback to old school ac - for me thats good but some environment feature have been cut off for a suitable era so they also cut down climbing time , thats why higher edge very easily reach by only one push with their legs - totally killing immersive for me. Altair and Eizio trilogy still hold the best for excellent and aiming for a more calculated climb, you will failed if you not careful enough. EDWARD Black Flag is the best example of how flashy animation should head to - slow, require thought again - fixed most of Conor Parkour issues (Too fast and glitchy). A realistic parkour system still the best - don’t like flashy move at all with too fast height reaching - like we dont actually thinking at all when climbing. AC MIRAGE will be ok if it can balance things between realistic and fun + calculating time and effort to reach for higher height as well as no superhuman jump and glitchy system too many flashy move. Each jump require body power to move on so a slight pause between jump is good for me.
I’m so sad watching this… we all knew it would run on the same engine… but damn… they prettied it up by speeding the parkour .1%, and adding more dense parkour options… but it’s 99.99999% the same. I just wish they would drop this engine, and make something 10x more fluid for AC Red, and Hexe… but who am I kidding? I’m still excited for Mirage, and I’m willing to give them financial support for giving us a much better traditional entry… I just wish the parkour was better
When it started development it was meant to be a dlc for Valhalla before they decided to make it it’s own game that’s why the parkour is so similar. Asking to scrap it is unrealistic as they would be dumping thousands of dollars down the drain and seeing as the game is only selling for $50 wasting all that money would of made it very hard for them to have made a decent profit.
Fr I feel you bro, I was expecting better than this when they said "basim was going to be one of the fastest"... This guy doesn't even look faster than altair lol
@@lucasbelmonte2832 i see what you mean but c’mon this game has been in the oven for 3 years. They went from syndicate(old ac) to origins(new ac) in two years. But they can’t go to new ac to old ac in three years? Oh but i know what it is. They are focusing on the other 999 ac games they are making at the same time. So while this game is being developed over the span of 3 years. I bet a fraction of that time, if not less has been spent on mirage and instead was spent on Assassins creed: micro-transactions Smh
@@lucasbelmonte2832 I just want them to drop this parkour system in their upcoming (next gen exclusive) games. Unfortunately Mirage was never going to be entirely different than Valhalla… but I do appreciate them for making this traditional (and cheaper) step for the original fans!
@@Fck_the_atf if this is bothering you so much take comfort in the fact that ac red which is releasing next year, will be built on a whole new engine with a brand new parador system, like how they went prom the first and ezios a trilogy’s parkour, to 3a and black flags, to unity and syndicates, to origins, odyssey’s and valhallas and now to red.
Parkour is good but AC games should add advanced acrobatic moves (ACB had Ezio jump to beam from horse and do acrobatic flip). Its not fun if player is limited to small number or parkour moves and acrobatics, they should add more in my opinion.
Some people like myself will just play this game because it’s a new game and what not I believe people have had they’re fill with Valhalla and Odin whispering in your ear every damn time.
Didnt need this video to let me know it was an exact copy of the horrible parkour in Valhalla. The clothing physics have the same issue as Valhalla. You'll be charged full priced for a dlc
I can’t really compare anything because it seemed like he or she wasn’t really running more like jogging you can see he switches in between the two in other videos
The parkour looks no different. I've played both and trust me even Valhalla feels like a better game (not an AC game... just a game in general) when compared to Mirage. The thing is, Valhalla is a complete RPG so lack of parkour is considerable. It does not even try to be an AC game. But Mirage promises to bring AC back to it's roots. To do so, they should've used the parkour mechanics of earlier AC games like black flag or brotherhood.
If I'm not mistaken, before when they first announced this game, they said there would be major improvements to the parkour system. This seems like "copy and paste", to me.
The parkour up to AC3/4 era felt responsive with no delay between moves or changing directions. The RPG era games feel as though the game is deciding where to go before letting you get there. The leaps feels very stiff and telegraphed. Very little looks different in Mirage sadly. Hopefully the more complex parkour environment can make up for it
All these bozos need to understand that this game started development as a dlc for Valhalla before they turned it into a stand alone. Meaning all the animations form Valhalla had been added and adjusted and by scraping the project and starting again they would have lost thousands qnd because they games is selling for cheaper it would have been difficult to turn a profit. One thing I notice with ac fans is no matter what Ubisoft do be it good or bad they find something to complain about, even if they did reintroduce unitys parkour you’d still complain. Just be happy that the game has very obviously gone back to a more assassin focused game with assassin focused gameplay and that the game is cheaper.
Any subsequent AC game where it's climbing system is missing the mechanics/features(and thus, missing control over the character and possibilities for fun traversal) of Unity and every previous game is an AC game with a bad climbing system. This game, in spite of taking place in a more dense city, trying to replicate that of AC1, is already a dissapointment in that sense. This climbing system is the same mediocre dumbed down devoid of any essence bullshit from the last 3 games. And that's not to mention that in plain 2023 those one billion companies can't make use of technology(the mocap animations from AC Unity!) they had almost 10 years ago. A joke of a gaming development company is Ubisoft. The only reason they keep being financially successful is because there are too many clueless casuals in the world who throw money at anything with above decent looking graphics.
Ubisoft mate wtf is this copy and paste bullshit. forever letting us down with the same game output every year really thought we had the REAL assassins creed back again. Looks like it's another crappy RPG copy n paste. Nvm boys we'll probably get it next time. "Proabably".
And originally a DLC for Valhallah. But yeah we have 3 1/2-4 months left, look at the Spider-Man PS4 first Gameplay reveal and it was a little slower. As a Ytber said for that "I'm sure the person who's playing is also being super careful to not mess anything up for the reveal." So I wouldn't be surprised if the person playing is being careful.
Compare Unity’s parkour to Origina, Odyssey and Valhalla. Then you’ll understand why people hate it. Look at the combat in All the AC games starting from Unity and before Unity and compare it to Origins-Valhalla. Then you’ll understand. For some reason Ubisoft thought if they downgraded the parkour and changed to combat to some weird World of Warcraft style of combat then people would like it. Strange
@@DayNineteen369I share the same opinion, people talk so much about the AC1 has the most realistic climbing... Because of how slow climb is... But, seeing real life parkour videos, they seems far more fast in climbing than Altair 😂 The only thing that is anormal its the "infinite stamina" of assassins, but nobody want stamina system... Yes, ubi has window to make even more animations of parkour... We are talking about masters of parkour
My only main issues with Valhalla’s parkour was the little hop Eivor does when climbing a ledge up, the recovery when dropping down, and not being able to roll from average height like Origins. So far, Mirage doesn’t have that little hop, and the recovery is faster which is relieving (for me at least)
They just sped up the animations a little, the only difference is the setting, it's really disappointing, imagine if they reused unity's engine and recreated baghdad within it.
Honestly the parkour was fine in Valhalla to me, the issue was the cities weren't designed for it so we didn't really use it too often. With this game, Baghdad was specifically designed for parkour in mind so it feels smoother and since there's so many buildings and connection points between them, you can actually stay off the ground in Mirage where as I felt that was harder to do in Valhalla.
Nah. I’m convinced sheep like u aren’t real gamers and are Ubisoft community reps spitting the same old shit they been saying. It’s bad it’s a bad system irrespective of the environment
The entire time Basim was free running he was doing so at a jog. I wonder if sprinting while free running gives you a whole different set of animations that weren’t available in Valhalla. Would be a nice surprise but unlikely.
This looks good. But we should all ask ourselves if AC: Mirage itself will be a good game? How many of us want to sit through another disappointment? These are questions we should ask ourselves.
Depends on expectations. If you're expecting a flagship system seller type ac game, then no, it definetly won't be that. It's a spinoff of Valhalla afterall, trying to tie into that story and set up the future of the modern day. I think the story will be better than Unity and Syndicate, but other than that, it'll be a simple game.
I recorded parkour gameplay in Valhalla, aligning it with Mirage's new parkour footage for comparison. After watching this, what are your thoughts on Mirage's parkour gameplay compared to Valhalla's?
not good, both not good
Don't see anything different besides they added the swing and pole vaulting.
Arno: *Laughs in French
When they said "going back to the roots", they meant sitting in benches.
@@Eternal-Spectrum That's funny that now they are trying to bring back old fans to the game like this, after they said "We don't care" And also funny that people happy about Assassins stuff .. not magic.. a hope Ubisoft realize that old fans more than they think, and they should consider it and make a normal game about parkour and assassinations using stealth, but I dont think they can develop any game now..
The difference in parkour movement seem subtle if any. I guess they mainly changed the environment to facilitate parkour more in Mirage compared to Valhalla.
Right on target.
The movement isn’t really any different aside from being sped up.
But if you look closely in the mirage footage there is actually alot of points where you can branch off of whatever path your on. To go up, down, left, and right. Which you don’t see in Valhalla. There is only one path you can go down and it doesn’t much matter weather you want to go up or down. Where in mirage you can see two times where the player manually goes down allowing you to transverse through 3 dimensions. Up, down, left, and right.
@@Fck_the_atfman, I don't even see it being sped up. The movement seems bulky just like in valhalla.
@@nikshakya7389o watch the developers video on that, they literally just speed up the movement and add some parkour features that were in Origins but lost in Odyssey and Valhalla.
@@nikshakya7389 its not as smooth but it is sped up. At least the climbing is. The free running might be the same speed.
And dont forget about work in progress buddy...
Never fall about that in Ubisoft gane
I have to tell you the truth, the two games look no different
Im gonna be fr i did not realize that it showed valhalla until the he showed them side by side
It's because Mirage is originally an expansion to Valhalla but became a Stand-alone DLC like Freedom Cry from Black Flag.
It’s because they aren’t. What makes Mirage an improvement over Valhalla is the fact that there is simply more options with parkour than Valhalla. It’s the same parkour system, just a better world design to go with it.
@@murder_maestro123ur right but still the same thing
They look identical to me, I don’t know what they mean by making the parkour faster or smoother. Maybe the vaulting is smoother but that’s about it for the parkour.
fr😂😂
lmao this a 60$ game and unity still looks miles better
@@spacemanf3070 50$ 🤓☝
There's a definitely a difference as Basim is clearly faster but the difference isn't huge at all. Though Baghdad is more compact and buildings are designed with parkour in mind so there's gonna be a lot more opportunity to parkour.
@@Gody66 regardless it’s not worth the price when i guarantee 70% of the assets are going to be reused
just started playing through original and ezio games again, realized how much more attention to detail and complex parkour level design are in those compared to the new trilogy. They are so much more dynamic with ejecting and catch ledge.
Some people overlook it because the animations aren't as flashy as something like Unity but from a mechanical standpoint we never saw that level of depth and freedom again.
you are correct, in the Ezio trilogy you could get some what creative with the parkour. The new ones became to easy creating a one way path of scaling.
right now i am playing brotherhood and the opportunity of parkour in that game is so much i am overwhelmed
That’s why I didn’t like Unity’s parkour as much.
the Altair and Ezio games had the best challenging parkour system
all the latest games does parkour with just moving forward on one button and always jumps towards ledge or places designed as spots
but the older games had more reacting parkour , one wrong jump and you can fall off
Hey game dev here, it seems what they’re missing in this game is shorter animation transitions hopping across the bars. There’s like a little pause instead of being a smooth blend into the following jump. Which makes the character feel weighty and kills illusion of flow. Also when the character is walking across a narrow platform, he does this slow crouch walk that also kills momentum completely. It’s basically the same parkour from Valhalla
To be fair the crouch walk is not new, it's just oddly really slow in the newer games
thanks, i was looking for this. I dont have that much problem with the new games except the way they "pause" when they run through beams. I know it's supposed to mimic how parkour people pause and regain balance but Assassins are supposed to be as fast as the wind you won't even notice their shadow. but still, as long as they give a good story, I'm go for it.
still bad
Finally an actual good comparison.
Just looks like valhalla in origins setup
Barely discernable was softer swing-offs, snatchy pole grabs instead of swingy arches, and dynamic clothing.
Basically less air when possible
If you compare it directly to the Ezio games, they dont have this “pause” whey Ezio hop from bar to bar. The animation in Mirage feels “unsmoove”
Yeah, and i've noticed that anytime basim is on a wire/fence walk type obstacle he doesnt exactly rush / run on it like ezio could.
Along with not showing any wall ejects, manual jumps or grasping, I wish the beam hopping had a smoother leap like in the Ezio and Kenway games.
That's better, so be more realistic
@@Dr9Os no they are just lazy
The game isnt finished yet
I dont see any differences the only difference is Basim used his hand on the rope while Eivor was, smarter he used his axe..
Basim used his glove to prevent his hands from burning at least
The 'climb up'-animation is faster with Basim. He just immediately jumps up, whereas Eivor briefly pauses, or simply climbs up slower.
Although, I hold on to my theory that his parkour improves as his rank improves. Besides, the gameplay shown was in still in development, so maybe they'll hear the people complaining, and modify it to be faster.
@@maxm.m.7219 I was having the same thoughts of the parkour improvement while ranking up but I am not sure because it is not mentioned by any of Ubisoft Devs
As I can see, the parkour is still the same in both the games and I finally realised that Valhalla's environment was the main problem that why people hated it's Parkour. Also the fluidity and complexity mechanics are absent from the old AC games like Unity, Ezio trilogy, etc.
I am not hoping anything but I still wish the devs could add the parkour physics and animation from Unity and older AC games as Mirage is still a work in progress (or they can add it as a future update in the game).
The map design will show players how mechanicly dry and unfun the rpg parkour system is. It will certainly improve the experience a bit, having a huge dense city to climb around, but having no real way to do anything unique aside from following the set pathes, it will not be as good as the old games.
If you think that’s why people hated it’s parkour then you’ve really haven’t been paying attention.
Compare Unity’s parkour to Origina, Odyssey and Valhalla. Then you’ll understand why people hate it.
Look at the combat in All the AC games starting from Unity and before Unity and compare it to Origins-Valhalla. Then you’ll understand.
For some reason Ubisoft thought if they downgraded the parkour and changed to combat to some weird World of Warcraft style of combat then people would like it. Strange.
@@Regalieth9143 Ironically enough, people did like it because of the combat changes lol... the new rpg trilogy is only hated on the internet, it increased the franchise popularity by a lot. So not strange at all.
@@Noctuam734 Really? Show me who these people are then, because all I’ve been hearing, mainly when Odyssey came out is how much they steered from the older games. How they’ve downgraded the Free Flow parkour and changed the combat.
Out of 20, there’s probably 2 people That’ll say they like the games. You’re one of the very few.
@@Noctuam734 I’ll get 15 individuals right now to hop on this thread and tell you how much they disliked those new mainline rpg assassin’s creed games.
so they literally took all that time making an environment built for parkour, but didn’t implement a good parkour system? 💀💀💀💀
ah yes, the "unity parkour" ubisoft told us about..
they should have used origins parkour
@@cordisdie8109 they should've used the parkour from any of the games before origins*
"basim will be the most fastest & agile assassin ever in the series" 🧢🧢
They said they were inspired by Unity's world, not unity's parkour itself.
@@hawken796 well they should've used the unity parkour engine.. NOt this shit and crap, that looks like a slow moving man
One thing I feel nobody has noticed is that every single time they do parkour in the video, it is never at Basim’s full speed. In Valhalla you could jog forward and still parkour, it’s the same for this game. Throughout 99% of the demonstration they never press the sprint button, HOWEVER, after Basim kills the guy who shoots down his bird, he crosses a rope with full speed, scales up a wall pretty fast, and runs foward on the roof stupidly quick. That run speed on the roof right there, IS the full speed on display, they just for some reason wanted to show it slowly first which I never understand why demonstrative videos like these do that but aye, just thought i’d point that out somewhere
Basim seems a bit lighter and more nimble than Eivor/Eyvar despite the basic animations being the same. I think the tweaking was just enough so as to get rid of the unnecessary weight pulling you down every time you made a leap in Valhalla. Its not the same as Unity, nor will it ever be in an engine like this, but i hope we can have a decent parkour experience with what technical means are available to us.
Can’t help but notice the ropes getting jumped on being absolutely stiff like steel beams. But I guess this is the case in both games.
I have absolutely no idea how Unisoft made perfectly smoothly flapping ropes in Unity, and abandoned it in all new games after it, it is such a huge visual thing, almost like they don't play the game
I saw it myself and started to searching some comparisons like that. Nothing changed. Our dreams about Unity parkour system will stay only dreams.
this makes me really worried for mirage. Ubisoft is literally lying to our faces
How did they lie? Ubisoft's head production director (Anne Laure Condamine) explained in an interview what Ubisoft is doing with Assassins Creed Mirage and she said they are not going back to the old school gameplay mechanics but will will add old features like hiding places and bribing officials and guards, but the game will still have the RPG style movement parkour and fighting, I will have new obstacles and interactive environments plus new abilities because Basim is the reincarnated ISU Loki.
@@anthonygiangreco3621people like to pretend that they never said they would improve parkour. It’s crazy. The whole lead up to this game was about parkour. Wether you all want to deny it like it never happened that’s up to you
@@dionpierre5847 no it wasn't. People need to stop saying Assassins Creed is getting back to their roots, they never left their roots. Ubisoft's head production director Anne Laure Condamine explained everything Ubisoft is doing with Mirage, and she said Mirage is going to be a new version of the RPG style gameplay from Origins Odyssey and Valhalla, it will have more obstacles to vault over and new environments to interact with, and Basim will have special abilities because he is the reincarnated ISU Loki.
@@anthonygiangreco3621 🤣 they never left their roots? First off Ubisoft is the one saying that not the people and it’s clear they left and abandoned what made assassins creed great a long time ago. And what you are referring to is after the gameplay dropped. They can’t drop the gameplay and continue to lie about how parkour was supposed to be improved. And look at you prop up basims bullshi magic that no one likes. Once again abandoning their roots. You sound like an Ubisoft employee or you’re getting paid to promote the game.
The game looks great but it isn’t what they said it would be
@@anthonygiangreco3621as someone who loves the rpg gameplay i am more hyped
Literally nothing changed about the parkour, but that's not a bad thing. I'm just glad you can traverse the city without having to touch the ground anymore which was always one of my favorite things about Assassin's Creed.
People are just upset that it’s not gonna be as flashy as unity people forget those at the original creators of unity don’t work at Ubisoft anymore
Honestly, I keep noticing a pattern within the AC fanbase where whenever a new game is announced they always try to look at the minor details to predetermine whether it's good or bad and regardless they hate on it anyways. From the look of it, Mirage's movement is more fluid and responsive but that could also be due to a change in environment.
@@mariox7070 you hit the nail on the head. You’re right the van base is toxic and they have nothing better to do than to complain about a new game.
Idk the gameplay looks different than the trailer. Seems as if basims pole swing was also faster at the playstation fest trailer. And that the camera moved along with the swings. This just looked mehh.
I agree, and also on the play station trailer, he is in his master assassin robes. Maybe that implies he will be faster and get better at parkour as he progresses? I would hope but we’ll see
It's just slightly faster, hopefully they smooth out the animation a bit because it looks like Basim "sticks" to what he lands on. Other than that it's the city that will make a difference, it's just so much more dense than what Valhalla had
Unfortunately, parkour from unity is unlikely to be repeated, maybe it was so hard to make... especially considering that it was 2014 then..
Cannot wait to use Altair's outfit in Mirage
with the ac1 filter
@@dfgffdvfvvf7909 of course!
I just replayed assassins creed 3 and it looks identical to that... They rehash the same animations for every game. Every new game is basically just a new map with a new story on the same game.
You can tell Basim wasn't moving as fast as he could have. And that's backed by the fact that if you watch the full gameplay they have him jogging through the whole thing until toward the end where, for a brief moment, he begins to sprint. I would say that the pause before leaping to another platform is hopefully because of them not having him moving at full speed in the showcase. But that's probably just how they designed the mechanics honestly. My main pet peeve is with that awful zip-line with almost bare hands, that shouldn't even be a thing.
Thanks for putting this together
Finally somebody did this video, now what are going to say those AC fans which said Mirage has a different parkour
Valhalla looks smoother but i hope since its still in development….mirage will be better 🤞🏻
Im an old fan of the old Parkour system back in the Altair and Ezio generation. I also think The Black Flag Edward parkour system also very good too.
I dont like Unity parkour for some reason:
+ Animation very decent but lack of realistic approach - Superhuman jump , climbing too fast - There a re no sign of holding breath between each climb -> made it ver fake and not keen in the eyes.
+ Glitchy Parkour up and down system.
The Fourth AC generation (trio modern ac from Origin to Vahalla) reduce flashy move and comback to old school ac - for me thats good but some environment feature have been cut off for a suitable era so they also cut down climbing time , thats why higher edge very easily reach by only one push with their legs - totally killing immersive for me.
Altair and Eizio trilogy still hold the best for excellent and aiming for a more calculated climb, you will failed if you not careful enough. EDWARD Black Flag is the best example of how flashy animation should head to - slow, require thought again - fixed most of Conor Parkour issues (Too fast and glitchy).
A realistic parkour system still the best - don’t like flashy move at all with too fast height reaching - like we dont actually thinking at all when climbing.
AC MIRAGE will be ok if it can balance things between realistic and fun + calculating time and effort to reach for higher height as well as no superhuman jump and glitchy system too many flashy move. Each jump require body power to move on so a slight pause between jump is good for me.
I’m so sad watching this… we all knew it would run on the same engine… but damn… they prettied it up by speeding the parkour .1%, and adding more dense parkour options… but it’s 99.99999% the same.
I just wish they would drop this engine, and make something 10x more fluid for AC Red, and Hexe… but who am I kidding?
I’m still excited for Mirage, and I’m willing to give them financial support for giving us a much better traditional entry… I just wish the parkour was better
When it started development it was meant to be a dlc for Valhalla before they decided to make it it’s own game that’s why the parkour is so similar. Asking to scrap it is unrealistic as they would be dumping thousands of dollars down the drain and seeing as the game is only selling for $50 wasting all that money would of made it very hard for them to have made a decent profit.
Fr I feel you bro, I was expecting better than this when they said "basim was going to be one of the fastest"... This guy doesn't even look faster than altair lol
@@lucasbelmonte2832 i see what you mean but c’mon this game has been in the oven for 3 years. They went from syndicate(old ac) to origins(new ac) in two years. But they can’t go to new ac to old ac in three years? Oh but i know what it is. They are focusing on the other 999 ac games they are making at the same time. So while this game is being developed over the span of 3 years. I bet a fraction of that time, if not less has been spent on mirage and instead was spent on
Assassins creed: micro-transactions
Smh
@@lucasbelmonte2832 I just want them to drop this parkour system in their upcoming (next gen exclusive) games. Unfortunately Mirage was never going to be entirely different than Valhalla… but I do appreciate them for making this traditional (and cheaper) step for the original fans!
@@Fck_the_atf if this is bothering you so much take comfort in the fact that ac red which is releasing next year, will be built on a whole new engine with a brand new parador system, like how they went prom the first and ezios a trilogy’s parkour, to 3a and black flags, to unity and syndicates, to origins, odyssey’s and valhallas and now to red.
Parkour is good but AC games should add advanced acrobatic moves (ACB had Ezio jump to beam from horse and do acrobatic flip). Its not fun if player is limited to small number or parkour moves and acrobatics, they should add more in my opinion.
OH MY GOD. That’s it unity was a peak. They will never going to make a game like it. It’s so frustrating I swear
i think they're saving Unity parkour for the Assassins Creed 1 or 2 remake
Some people like myself will just play this game because it’s a new game and what not I believe people have had they’re fill with Valhalla and Odin whispering in your ear every damn time.
It's the same parkour which makes sense since they're using the same game engine.
The only difference will be where it happens.
Didnt need this video to let me know it was an exact copy of the horrible parkour in Valhalla. The clothing physics have the same issue as Valhalla. You'll be charged full priced for a dlc
The clothing are way better wdym
Can we stop comparing games ,and enjoy that we atleast have a new unique game on a way?
They should have just done a capcom like remake of AC1
The same old shit.
I'm waiting for the next game which hopefully will have a complete parkour rework
This is valhalla dlc, still every ac games are masterpices
I feel like Mirage has the same movement sets as in Valhalla but is more fluid and feels more natural
Honestly I think they should make AC more grounded. Make combat harder and a better stealth mechanic overall.
I want to see a developer who will roll off the rope with his bare hands
I can’t really compare anything because it seemed like he or she wasn’t really running more like jogging you can see he switches in between the two in other videos
Should’ve used basim outfit in valhalla
which of these was mirage?
The parkour looks no different. I've played both and trust me even Valhalla feels like a better game (not an AC game... just a game in general) when compared to Mirage. The thing is, Valhalla is a complete RPG so lack of parkour is considerable. It does not even try to be an AC game. But Mirage promises to bring AC back to it's roots. To do so, they should've used the parkour mechanics of earlier AC games like black flag or brotherhood.
If I'm not mistaken, before when they first announced this game, they said there would be major improvements to the parkour system.
This seems like "copy and paste", to me.
I swear to god if the parkour is auto pilot i wont even bother to play Mirage.
I thought the parkour in Mirage would be faster and smoother. Can't really see the difference with Valhalla, unfortunately.
Big difference. Mirage looks more grounded in reality in terms of the animations when free running.
So we see that they swallow a dlc as if it is a full game
The parkour up to AC3/4 era felt responsive with no delay between moves or changing directions. The RPG era games feel as though the game is deciding where to go before letting you get there. The leaps feels very stiff and telegraphed. Very little looks different in Mirage sadly. Hopefully the more complex parkour environment can make up for it
i was really considering buying mirage (the last game i bought was origins) but after seeing this, is a big no for me
To be honest I do see a slight change in mirage it is a little bit faster but to similar
Atleast we don't have to go to Asgard.
You never had to
is it just me or does jumping down/falling look unaturally quick like the gravity is stronger than it should be
Yes because this game using god damn Valhalla parkour
There’s just no flow to the parkour at all. Especially when jumping from beam to beam there is almost a full stop every jump.
I thought its gonna be agile as ac unity😥😢
I was wishing they would make the parkour like AC unity, DISAPPOINTED!!!
The AC fanbase after this: time to vanish
Both physics engine is same
Eivor manages to be faster to climb
Porque el valhalla se ve mejor
Glad they fixed the dogshit audio that's been present in the last 3 games. The innovation!
its literally the same. i dont care what anybody says. but the environment in mirage looks better of course so..
All these bozos need to understand that this game started development as a dlc for Valhalla before they turned it into a stand alone. Meaning all the animations form Valhalla had been added and adjusted and by scraping the project and starting again they would have lost thousands qnd because they games is selling for cheaper it would have been difficult to turn a profit. One thing I notice with ac fans is no matter what Ubisoft do be it good or bad they find something to complain about, even if they did reintroduce unitys parkour you’d still complain. Just be happy that the game has very obviously gone back to a more assassin focused game with assassin focused gameplay and that the game is cheaper.
Yeah we should be glad that assassins creed is about assassins. I think Ubisoft should be glad that assassins creed fans are so gullible.
Any subsequent AC game where it's climbing system is missing the mechanics/features(and thus, missing control over the character and possibilities for fun traversal) of Unity and every previous game is an AC game with a bad climbing system.
This game, in spite of taking place in a more dense city, trying to replicate that of AC1, is already a dissapointment in that sense. This climbing system is the same mediocre dumbed down devoid of any essence bullshit from the last 3 games.
And that's not to mention that in plain 2023 those one billion companies can't make use of technology(the mocap animations from AC Unity!) they had almost 10 years ago.
A joke of a gaming development company is Ubisoft. The only reason they keep being financially successful is because there are too many clueless casuals in the world who throw money at anything with above decent looking graphics.
It's sadly funny how the look like the same game
They both look the exact same
Same
Basim is faster and more agile that's cool ❤ and parkour difference is also coming
Graphically Valhalla looks better 😅
Exactly the same
I feel mirage is one of those games where the changes look very subtle but when you play it’s a whole different beast
Copium. I’m smoking it too
"beast"
Have you played it?
Ubisoft mate wtf is this copy and paste bullshit. forever letting us down with the same game output every year really thought we had the REAL assassins creed back again. Looks like it's another crappy RPG copy n paste. Nvm boys we'll probably get it next time. "Proabably".
It's the same parkour system
It's similar but not the same
Why does Valhalla look better lol..and why does unity look better than both of these
sheesh
I see no difference
Ach mirage is better
Looks slow as shit in both games
People are forgetting that the game is not ready yet.
And originally a DLC for Valhallah. But yeah we have 3 1/2-4 months left, look at the Spider-Man PS4 first Gameplay reveal and it was a little slower. As a Ytber said for that "I'm sure the person who's playing is also being super careful to not mess anything up for the reveal." So I wouldn't be surprised if the person playing is being careful.
It won’t change much if any. And we both know it. In few months to drastically change parkour system? Naah.
I played AC2 and Brotherhood after Valhalla and Origins: and OMFG.
We got robed, you guys.
God I was only interested cause they said “heavily borrows from Unity”. Completely false advertising & looks dated.
Comunque hai una voce super rilassante qui
Compare Unity’s parkour to Origina, Odyssey and Valhalla. Then you’ll understand why people hate it.
Look at the combat in All the AC games starting from Unity and before Unity and compare it to Origins-Valhalla. Then you’ll understand.
For some reason Ubisoft thought if they downgraded the parkour and changed to combat to some weird World of Warcraft style of combat then people would like it. Strange
Something about the running seemed slow to me, now it’s obvious it’s a reskin
Same parkour animations, the only difference is that Basim is faster than Eivor.
Not really...
Looks the exact same lol
Well, at first i'm hoping for the parkour will be smooth and fluid like unity, but here we go, just the same as the past 3 games before.
they need to remove frames from the parkour animations in mirage. its WAY too stompy
They could've used any animations and they chose to use the shittiest ones
@@lordnix82ndhe same can be said about the dialogue scenes as well.. shitty animations 🤦
@@Noir-c9k very true
Mirage cloth physics👌🏻
Unity raised the bar so high I don't think any ac game will ever get to that level of parkour fluidity even if they tried
Just reuse that wtf!!!
Too many flashy move - glitchy parkour system and superhuman jump - It will be a disaster.
@@fauken1994 too many flashy moves aha have you ever done parkour in real life
@@DayNineteen369I share the same opinion, people talk so much about the AC1 has the most realistic climbing... Because of how slow climb is...
But, seeing real life parkour videos, they seems far more fast in climbing than Altair 😂
The only thing that is anormal its the "infinite stamina" of assassins, but nobody want stamina system...
Yes, ubi has window to make even more animations of parkour... We are talking about masters of parkour
My only main issues with Valhalla’s parkour was the little hop Eivor does when climbing a ledge up, the recovery when dropping down, and not being able to roll from average height like Origins. So far, Mirage doesn’t have that little hop, and the recovery is faster which is relieving (for me at least)
They just sped up the animations a little, the only difference is the setting, it's really disappointing, imagine if they reused unity's engine and recreated baghdad within it.
It is Unity's engine, which is the Anvil engine
Yep, still the same. I mean, I’m still stoked but to all those who wanted unity style parkour…I bid the farewell :/
Honestly the parkour was fine in Valhalla to me, the issue was the cities weren't designed for it so we didn't really use it too often. With this game, Baghdad was specifically designed for parkour in mind so it feels smoother and since there's so many buildings and connection points between them, you can actually stay off the ground in Mirage where as I felt that was harder to do in Valhalla.
In fact, there are many hidden parkour routes in Valhalla, you just need to find it and get a sense of accomplishment
@@沒穿內褲的3080 I know there are but my point is that it wasn't the norm, so while you could, it wasn't the standard.
Nah. I’m convinced sheep like u aren’t real gamers and are Ubisoft community reps spitting the same old shit they been saying. It’s bad it’s a bad system irrespective of the environment
True!
I'd prefer a parkour system with more agency, this is just lame.
Idk y but these parkour looks so.... unnatural
AC3, BF, Rogue had the most natural parkours (Unity & Syndicate was something different)
The entire time Basim was free running he was doing so at a jog. I wonder if sprinting while free running gives you a whole different set of animations that weren’t available in Valhalla. Would be a nice surprise but unlikely.
This looks good. But we should all ask ourselves if AC: Mirage itself will be a good game? How many of us want to sit through another disappointment? These are questions we should ask ourselves.
"Expect Disappointment and you won't be Disappointed"
- MJ
@@ANI-lv7lf---TBH I'm asking these questions because I feel someone needs too.
@@ANI-lv7lf---But thanks for the advice.
@@ANI-lv7lf or from Kratos.
Depends on expectations. If you're expecting a flagship system seller type ac game, then no, it definetly won't be that. It's a spinoff of Valhalla afterall, trying to tie into that story and set up the future of the modern day. I think the story will be better than Unity and Syndicate, but other than that, it'll be a simple game.