@@lucienmeunier3268 lmfao. How is saying a news outlet is corrupt anti-semitic? Edit: apologies, that dave best slinked off, deleting their comment. It makes it look like you're replying to OP. Sorry again. 🙏
I don't know who to be angrier at. One is someone denying holocaust numbers and other spurious things. The other is apparently someone a little more rational. But can't even spell 3 letter words in a short sentence, and is gonna run n tell mommy.. smfh
She's criticizing the juxtaposition of criticism of Israel by the international community in contrast with countries like China dn their treatment of Uygurs. She couldnt have made it any more clearer. EDIT "...contrast..."
Her point is apt, that holding Israel to a different standard than other islamic states is inherently antisemitic. Other criticism of states does not end in the demand that a state should be annihilated.
"On May 20, 2017, U.S. President Donald Trump and Saudi Arabia's King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud signed a series of letters of intent for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to purchase arms from the United States totaling US$110 billion immediately, and $350 billion over 10 years."
I'm pretty sure I heard her say that occupying Palestine is morally corrosive to the soul of Israel. How much more clearly could she have said that it is wrong?
Right before that she mentioned how Muslims are being genocided in China, she alluded to Christian Yazidis being being hunted, also consider how the South African government is planning to genocide white people, consider how Venezuelans and North Koreans are starving, etc.
@@juliemariemcintyre stop the brainwash, please investigate Hamas and PLO, Black September etc. Here's an experiment, clear your head of everything you know or heard from Palestine/Israel and do your OWN research.
Arab states were created by Mohamed and his crusade against mostly Christian nations. www.crethiplethi.com/the-historical-reality-of-the-muslim-conquests/global-islam/2012/
@@hanksarks7209 he's a jw and shouting Mslims is all he's got to defend his apartheid jw state with. most jws are god hating "atheists" but the swear god gave them plsrael.
@@espada9 chrstianity existed before lslam. europeans were pagans before they were chrstians. people converted they were not displaced as you are attempting to fraudulently imply but fraud is all the zionazi has on his side.
Criticism of Israel isn’t deemed anti Semitic? Disagree with you there, from what I have seen any criticism of Israel has you instantly deemed an anti Semite...
Exactly ! She's contradicting herself ! Have me thinking What is allowed criticism for Israel ? If we say Israel is Evil then its anti-semitic, if we say Israel commits war crimes then we're giving in to outrage culture , if we say Israel was formed by massacring Palestinians and taking their land by force then its denying the Jewish identity. So my question as an Arab, how am I allowed to criticize a country that constantly oppresses me ?
It’s very sad this place has done this to you. Could your try one of the Arabic brother nations Jordan or Iran to take you in. Maybe go there and come back. Go to a place where you can and work on coming back. Lots of ppl on your side.
@@AdventureFrank4207 lmao don't eat up the arab victim culture, both yom Kippur wars were collections of different Arab nations allying to wipe Israel of the map, they lost both times and now want to act like they are victims, is the literal we failed to exterminate them so now we are going to act like victims for the repercussions of that
Well there’s Christian countries, and Muslim countries. Jews have one country and it’s been constantly attacked from the beginning of its existence. So it’s not surprising people get defensive.
Mike Muffler Mike Muffler why don’t you actually ASK A JEW what they are taught instead of churning your stereotypical biased hate you dumb fuck? Go on...I’m a Jew. Ask me fuck face. Because yes, if YOU specifically were my neighbor, I’d treat you friendship and respect. But if you ever said this shit to my face, I’d gut you from your insides. Now you know how Jews feel. Kapish?
@@Mike_Muffler No. You just want your sad little troll life to have more meaning by fabricating the same old anti-semitic bullshit that has been around for centuries and pretend you are part of this "struggle". Sorry to burst your bubble. Not all Jews are the same either. If you were really "awake" you'd know I, as a Jew, am more American that your putrid racist ass will ever be with a family military tradition going back to WW1. So please Mikey boy, come and try to "put me in isolation". I'd fucking love for you to try you pussy "gentile" troll
Just as she complains that Israeli violence isn’t representative of all Jews (and she’s right, it’s not) she then goes on to infer that the beliefs and actions of Hammas somehow represent Palestinians. As if their actions justify the treatment of Palestine. The Palestinians are an oppressed minority. The UN has labeled Israel an apartheid state. The Netanyahu government controls the entire region. It’s pretty obvious who holds all the cards in the region. And no, criticizing the state of Israel is not anti-semitism.
Though to be fair Palestinnians elected Hammas, all the Jews of the world didn't elect Israeli, she didn't imply all muslims, but it's reasonable to say that the actions of the elected government are representative of the people who elected them. On a side note, did you notice how she claimed nobody is saying that criticizing Israel isn't anti Semitic, then called Omar an anti Semite for criticizing Israel
She didn't say that. She said Israel giving over judea & samaria to the Palestinians could mean a hamas led state which would be a suicidal move by Israel
@@MillennialRabbi "Judea and Samaria", are you living in 754 BC? Btw. Israeli occupation and apartheid are documented, do not defend constant abuse of occupation and power by the IDF and settlers. If you are willing to learn, here is an Israeli human rights organization that tells it how it is! www.btselem.org/apartheid
@Chris Landry Any anti semitism perpetuated by the followers of the Islamic faith is very troublesome. Two of the freshmen Congress were sworn in on the Quran. This is the most backwards and suppressive religion you can find. Along with the anti semitism they hold extreme homophobic views. To an Islamic follower the punishment for these 2 groups of people is death. Go educate yourself.
@@maxxxstrong4577, are you saying that defending homophobic countries, or dictatorships is okay then?/ because isarel is neither, but you prefer to hate israel's existence rather than dictatorships like palestine?
The biggest difference between Israel and China.. is Israel is supposed to be a good guy and our ally. Israel has never signed the Nuclear proliferation act. Why? Also: Asking questions is not anti semitic.
Yeah, it's like seeing your brother beating up his wife and kids right in front of you. Then tell you that there is worse wife beaters out there. Like wtf man. You supposed to be one of us
Intersectionality focuses on looking for oppression primarily and not on treating individuals based on the content of their character The constant search for oppression is what is appalling, because if you always look for oppression you will always find it even when it is not there
Stopped listening when she addressed her ‘white privilege’. Her criticism of anti-semitism includes ‘not all jews are white’. So somehow, if they were all white anti-semitism would be less bad? Maybe I’m reaching. But I can’t take this chick seriously.
Twan Willems yes, don’t you know that if you’re white, you get a free ticket to receive racism, prejudice, anti white propaganda, etc. so of course anti semitism would be less bad if Jews were white, you can literally say “I hate white people” and no one will bat an eye, but if you say “ I hate Mexicans” or “ I hate black people” then you’re in a world of trouble, I mean people are openly talking on social media (jokingly probably) about castrating white men, in order to make better men and less white men, and there’s a huge amount of people who don’t have a problem with this, except for people mostly on the right , but regardless if it was in a joking manner, I can’t help but think it wouldn’t be as well received if she switched “white” to black or any other race, don’t you know as white people, we have to shut up and put up with racism and just take it without saying anything, we have to get scrutinized and chastised every day, being told white men are the worst things on this earth, white men are sexist, racist and bigots, we are told we are predators in waiting, men is general regardless of color are told we need to be better, even though we do almost everything, like build the fucking places and societies they live, maintain that society, repair it, we work all the necessary jobs in order for the world to work, we literally do almost everything, yet we are told we need to be better, I’m just curious where are all the messages to the females, to Mexicans, to black people, telling them to be better, there are none
@Shabiha Assad I am attracted to personalities, but I can see she is attractive to lesser intelligent or lustful people. I think she's as ugly as her heart. I wouldn't fuck her even if my wife asked me to do a three way with her.
She is extremely racist and is terribly misinformed. Her statements are never backed up with examples/facts. She just spouts her beliefs...she tried to get a Palestinian professor fired from Columbia because he was supportive of Palestinian rights. She’s an embarrassment to real journalism.
@@grothd09 I've been following the situation there all my life and she is 100% accurate about everything she says. You can tell she is legit because she visited the west bank and talked to people there, and is also critical of the Israeli government. You can spot a fanatic idiot when they don't acknowledge any wrongdoing on one side.
I agree, I don't understand why he doesn't reference her and what she talked to him. Especially because Abby seems much more intelligent then this woman.
Rogan, Shipiro, Peterson, Rubin do talk passionately about free speech. Has anyone heard them say anything about the Palestinian speech and language therapist in Texas who was fired for refusing to sign an agreement not to support BDS. If they don't know about it. Ok. If they do, and haven't spoken about it, I'm afraid that is a contradiction, and one wonders what to make of their free speech rhetoric.
Wow. What an august panel you postulate. Only Rogan is mostly objective and unpretentious, in addition to being a nice guy. Peterson and Shapiro are intellectual charlatans skilled in specious rhetoric and logical fallacy. Rubin is a moron, an ignorant dolt who endlessly makes a fool of himself in public. How on earth you can put those four together in a list is beyond me.
@@fyt54321 Peterson never conflated racism with something else, unlike Ben who has a low bar for antisemitism. Peterson actually have a positive view of universal healthcare, welfare, and Noam Chomsky.
Eh, i think hes worried about her saying "he was attacking me verbally and obviously sexist" and that kinda shit.. he's letting her make herself look ridiculous.
Maybe. I think it's better to just be "non-threatening", sit back and let the audience see what trash Zionists are. Joe could have on some more knowledgable anti-Zionists like Norman Finkelstein (for those who need the Jewish Shield of Protection; facts are facts regardless of the messenger but, this is Merka).
"Check Jewish identity at the door" before joining a movement?!! That's some serious accusation she's making without backing it with any specific examples.
@@grosebud4554 no this is extreme centrism. I guarantee you she would chastise and smear Bernie Sanders at the blink of an eye. agree or not with him, he's further left than the mainstream Democratic party and the NYT is an arm of the Dem party. so how does it make sense to say they're far left?
I feel like women like her anything even resembling conflict she is overly invested and dramatic about it. What’s crazy to me we are still having religious wars. It’s is so crazy I feel religion is the true cancer of the world. Why can’t we have individual spirituality that doesn’t need the approval of others because it’s a internal. Accountability, respect, empathy and the ability to learn are the true virtues of humanity.
So many odd logic gaps in this girl’s defence of Israel: - on one hand she criticizes the world for hyper-focusing on Israel when dictatorships are doing far worse, but then she turns around and brags about Israel being this oasis of Western Democracy surrounded by hostile actors. But if it were such a beacon of democracy, it wouldn’t need to go out of its way to prevent masses of Arabs from forming the majority in Israel, and it wouldn’t be rounding up black/Ethiopian Jews - who are actually more Semitic than white Jews - in an effort to deport masses of them. - she acts like Israel is in such a risky position, but then she later refutes her point when she says how Egypt has had a longstanding peace with them and Saudi Arabia has largely sided with Israel against Iran (and if you have Saudi cover in the region, you’re certainly not alone). And of course the entire argument is silly when looking at the Israeli military - largely funded by America. - lastly she makes no mention of the downright atrocious oppression and human rights abuses against Palestinians. Locking up children and destroying any chance of building an economy, which she naively states as a solution as if she doesn’t know Israel has effectively shut down any Palestinian economy by completely controlling the flow of goods in and out... what a crock. And I do not think Israel is inherently bad, and there have been Israeli politicians on the right (er left) side of these issues. But people attacking those speaking out about Israel’s current oppressive policies are part of the problem - period. We don’t talk about the autocrats as much because they don’t claim to be a “Western Democracy.” They also don’t take nearly as much American tax dollars as Israel, or have the lobby power in Congress... This is actually the perfect video for any people who are critical of Israel to show the whitewashing by so-called “centre-left” defenders of Bibi.
@@Raksody It's good that they let you out of the padded room sometimes, but I wish they'd stop letting you sperg out in the comments sections with your demented nonsense.
@@almostafa4725 and the Jews, Christians, Muslims and atheists that live in israel get along peacefully now. Everyone outside those walls wants to wipe them off the map. FUCK those people. They had their chance in the 6 day war, when they ganged up with Syria Egypt and Jordan, and Israel curbstomped them in 6 days.
She says she has white skin but doesn't consider herself white. Is that so she can attack "white privilege" and keep her conscious clear? I'm sure she's a perfectly nice lady, I'm just so fed up with identity politics. But it's Joe's show so I'm willing to hear out Edit: I went on to read some more of the comments and I'm starting to regret piling on. There's some borderline nonsense on here. Half Jew and just wanna say it's not a personal attack on that aspect of her. Just the identity politics.
@Emperor Augustus You're wrong. Most Jews are European converts. They have no ancestral ties to the Holy Land. The Palestinians are the descendants of Canaan.
@Emperor Augustus the anti semitic conspiracy theorist wave will blow over soon. I want to believe this is a vocal minority and not a big part of Joe's audience
This absolutely hilarious that she accuses Progressives of anti-Semitism, and yet doesn't blink an eye at their racism towards white men. Just skipped right over it.
Uh, no. YOU skipped right over where she DID talk about it. She clearly pointed out that Jews are hated in part precisely "because" they are considered to have "white privelage" etc.. and that people are way quicker to come out against someone for anti-semitism if it is a white guy like Richard Spencer compared to progressives who happen to be minority like Linda Sarsour, Ilhan Omar, or Louis Farrakhan who are far more dangerous to jews than the so called alt-right. That's because white people are demonized as well in today's society. White people are to progressive minorities what Jews historically were to the christian hegemony of europe in times past. A boogie-man that all the hatred, ill-will, and labels can be stuck to and blamed on.
Well, Mr. Last, both our nations spread into no man's land, kicked some native ass and established ourself in harsh environment. Only different is that in our case, no great movie genre came out of it and our motivation was somewhat different: You took the land because you wanted gold. We took the land cause we grow weary of getting through a door and exiting through a chimney. All because we killed J.C. So you know what? we're sorry. OK? but it's been 2,000 fucking years, man! Snape out of it!
# 63G774298 it’s not so much the glasses but the shitty clothes they wear. None of them try and look feminine. Dummy is wearing an undershirt to one of the most watched podcasts on the internet.
Actually people say criticizing Israel is anti semitic all the time... basically all the Bill's past or tried to pass n everywhere else... I've seen it more often than not actually
It's a long memory from Roman times...i.e. the beginning of the "Western World"... Judea was a very unstable province because Hellenists and Jews didn't get along and after several perceived insults to Judaism from governors and legionaries the public became irredeemably rebellious... The Jews actually rebelled 3 times in the empire: Bellum Iudaicum - The Great Revolt around 70 - 71 AD...ended with the sack of Jerusalem and destruction of the Temple Kitos War - Around 115 AD, was an empire wide "revenge insurrection" against the Hellenist pagans by Jews in the empire...reportedly, the Jews decimated pagan temples all over the Mediterranean in Egypt Cyprus Cyrenaica some Greek islands as well Bar Kokhba Revolt - Around 132 AD, an initially successful rebellion led by a false messiah known as Bar Kokhba. The Roman garrison and 2 legions were destroyed and Judea had autonomy for 2 years before Rome could gather enough forces to retake it. If you ask me, I think the Kitos War probably did a number on Jewish PR for the average non-Jew in the empire back then.
13:42 The length of time it takes for her to formulate a lukewarm wishywashy response to the ONLY question she should have had a fully flushed out opinion and stance on really confirms and supports this healthy like to dislike ratio. She as a self pronounced Zionist refuses to condemn any Israeli action contrary to the position she claims to have and has not demonstrated in any way.
I love how she conveniently ignores the fact that Israel funded Hamas in the 80s and 90s to undermine Fatah. It’s almost as if Israel is directly responsible for the very thing she decries as Israel’s greatest threat
Ashkenazi Jews have been living in Europe for over 800 years and have very little Jewish ancestry, they are mostly European which is why they look like they do. The claim the Jewish identity because it furthers their ability to gain power and wealth. It's basically an exclusive club.
I see a lot of fair criticism of her clear bias on some issues, but the explanation she goes into when she talks about if Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip is , in my opinion, very well thought out and compelling
It's a copy and paste talking point that Zionists make when they are cycling through their soundbites. Bari isn't even very good at it, anyone who has experience and knowledge would pick her argument apart, and she is a freaken NYtimes columnist professing knowledge of issues in Israel, Syria, Lebanon and the Middle East. At best she went to Israel as a Jewish American Student in a "Birthright Tour" sponsored by the IDF and received her basic indoctrination, she is a total idiot.
I’m sorry you have been taught to believe that Christians blame Jews for the death of Jesus. We do not. Such a belief is not represented in our Testament which must be read in context, not in prejudice.
It's anti-Semitic to criticize Israel? Wtf?! So if I go and criticize a restaurant, am I an Anti-Chef, anti-Butler, anti-Maitre'd around all the world ? Her heavy voice makes it Cringefest for my ears
When all truth has made absolutely subjective, with no common anchor or grounds in objective reality - then emotions become the new absolute standard. It used to be that if we disagree, then we would engage in discourse. Now it’s assumed that if we disagree, you are attacking my very identity and tribe. We need to get back to objective truth, or civility is done for.
12:40 maybe that is exactly why you should judge people first on the merit of their character and not on the outward appearance, things that inter-sectionalism seems to focus on? just a thought.
Here is a suggestion Joe, if you're going to have a guest to speak on a complicated subject like this please have someone else with opposing view. We want to hear both sides of the argument from well-informed people. This woman went unchallenged and it is very frustrating.
"We're not a country based on blood and soil. We're a county whose national common identity its based on ascribing a set of ideas." Yeah, right. Tell that to black people.
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Aren't they try to make it illegal in the US to criticize Israel?
They are, and don't let Joe "free speech" Rogan try to tell you otherwise.
Yes, it's illegal in 26 states to boycott Israel:
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TheTimbalanders : stop further cementing the stereotype that your people are subversive liars and manipulators.
@@spinningchurro You also had to pledge to not boycott Israel to receive flood relief in Texas, right?
@TheTimbalanders islam is making it illegal to criticize Israel? What a lie life ziokike
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize -Kevin Alfred Storm
And I'm Mexican btw for you who think only the white privilege male has these thoughts
Islam
@@Daniel-ke1bn Does that mean we're not allowed to criticise mexico or what? 🤣
@@freelanceopportunist559 nice try jw
amen
Ny times corrupt as hell
@ who are u helping? wanna make a constructive argument? provide some evidence or detail into their corruption. dont just spout anti Semitic bullshit
@@lucienmeunier3268 lmfao. How is saying a news outlet is corrupt anti-semitic?
Edit: apologies, that dave best slinked off, deleting their comment. It makes it look like you're replying to OP. Sorry again. 🙏
I’m glad to see your audience isn’t buying the nonsense this con artist selling.
What nonsense is that.
Are you claiming that the left is not attacking Jews?
@@bighands69 , that is what Brent is claiming...and he;s wrong of course.
I don't know who to be angrier at. One is someone denying holocaust numbers and other spurious things.
The other is apparently someone a little more rational. But can't even spell 3 letter words in a short sentence, and is gonna run n tell mommy.. smfh
Criticisms of Israel are not anti-Semitic
Proceeds to frame criticisms of Israel as anti-Semitic
She's criticizing the juxtaposition of criticism of Israel by the international community in contrast with countries like China dn their treatment of Uygurs. She couldnt have made it any more clearer.
EDIT "...contrast..."
Her point is apt, that holding Israel to a different standard than other islamic states is inherently antisemitic. Other criticism of states does not end in the demand that a state should be annihilated.
have you read the comments on here????? Every single antisemitic stereotype possible is right here on this thread.
"On May 20, 2017, U.S. President Donald Trump and Saudi Arabia's King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud signed a series of letters of intent for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to purchase arms from the United States totaling US$110 billion immediately, and $350 billion over 10 years."
if you lie about israel....if you apply double standards to israel? that's hate speech.
Is there any way to criticize Jews or Israel without it being antisemitism?
Do they ever do anything wrong?
Most of these Jews aren't Semitic unlike Arabs.
Jose Ureste That’s bullshit. And learn to stay on subject.
@Jose Ureste pets of jws
I'm pretty sure I heard her say that occupying Palestine is morally corrosive to the soul of Israel. How much more clearly could she have said that it is wrong?
@@t3tsuyaguy1 she denied that it was jews who orchestrated the Russian revolution. She said it was a conspiracy theory.
Joe "affraid to go there" Rogan
@Stayoutlatetatebate it could never happen
"the idea that Gaza is among the worst human rights tragedies of our time - are u kidding me thats insanity. " she really said that.
s B i do, so u tell me how gaza doesnt fit "among" them? ill wait..
Right before that she mentioned how Muslims are being genocided in China, she alluded to Christian Yazidis being being hunted, also consider how the South African government is planning to genocide white people, consider how Venezuelans and North Koreans are starving, etc.
@@juliemariemcintyre stop the brainwash, please investigate Hamas and PLO, Black September etc.
Here's an experiment, clear your head of everything you know or heard from Palestine/Israel and do your OWN research.
@@fusionvision7013 investigate AIPAC , SPLC and ADL.
Going from having Mike Tyson on to having this lady is like smoking a fat bowl of chronic to smoking a bowl of seeds and stems
Bring back Ted nugent and Alex Jones
Resin*
Sorry if you dont like differing opinions do you feel safe? Safe space? Ok ill talk to your mother.
JRE listeners are dense af
Sure is funny when it comes from someone watching the video to be here to comment.
Is that a self analysis?
She complains about Israel being surrounded by Arabs as if Arab states just descended on the Middle East. Lol
Arab states were created by Mohamed and his crusade against mostly Christian nations. www.crethiplethi.com/the-historical-reality-of-the-muslim-conquests/global-islam/2012/
@@espada9 WTF are you talking about?
@@hanksarks7209
I'm an anti theist
@@hanksarks7209 he's a jw and shouting Mslims is all he's got to defend his apartheid jw state with. most jws are god hating "atheists" but the swear god gave them plsrael.
@@espada9 chrstianity existed before lslam. europeans were pagans before they were chrstians. people converted they were not displaced as you are attempting to fraudulently imply but fraud is all the zionazi has on his side.
Criticism of Israel isn’t deemed anti Semitic? Disagree with you there, from what I have seen any criticism of Israel has you instantly deemed an anti Semite...
Exactly ! She's contradicting herself ! Have me thinking What is allowed criticism for Israel ? If we say Israel is Evil then its anti-semitic, if we say Israel commits war crimes then we're giving in to outrage culture , if we say Israel was formed by massacring Palestinians and taking their land by force then its denying the Jewish identity. So my question as an Arab, how am I allowed to criticize a country that constantly oppresses me ?
It’s very sad this place has done this to you. Could your try one of the Arabic brother nations Jordan or Iran to take you in. Maybe go there and come back. Go to a place where you can and work on coming back. Lots of ppl on your side.
@@AdventureFrank4207 lmao don't eat up the arab victim culture, both yom Kippur wars were collections of different Arab nations allying to wipe Israel of the map, they lost both times and now want to act like they are victims, is the literal we failed to exterminate them so now we are going to act like victims for the repercussions of that
@@asalwak315 "victim culture"?... That could be the start of a craze.
Well there’s Christian countries, and Muslim countries. Jews have one country and it’s been constantly attacked from the beginning of its existence. So it’s not surprising people get defensive.
She is very one-sided
It's called the eternal victim.
Mike Muffler Mike Muffler why don’t you actually ASK A JEW what they are taught instead of churning your stereotypical biased hate you dumb fuck?
Go on...I’m a Jew. Ask me fuck face.
Because yes, if YOU specifically were my neighbor, I’d treat you friendship and respect.
But if you ever said this shit to my face, I’d gut you from your insides. Now you know how Jews feel. Kapish?
@@Mike_Muffler No. You just want your sad little troll life to have more meaning by fabricating the same old anti-semitic bullshit that has been around for centuries and pretend you are part of this "struggle".
Sorry to burst your bubble. Not all Jews are the same either.
If you were really "awake" you'd know I, as a Jew, am more American that your putrid racist ass will ever be with a family military tradition going back to WW1.
So please Mikey boy, come and try to "put me in isolation". I'd fucking love for you to try you pussy "gentile" troll
Wouldn't you be?
Yeah if u watched the whole thing she described tulsi as having monstrous ideas and he asks what ideas and she can’t name one 😂
she has such a victim mentality.
@aAaa aAaa you sound like you have a victim complex too bro
I'm white, I'm privileged. We're rich. We own media. But boohoo , don't talk about it, it's a c a n a r d d d d ....
no, she doesn't. it's important to distinguish what's happening here. she's exploiting victim status WITHOUT having victim mentality
She's gonna be the worst guest of 2019. And its only January. Good job
Charlie Parker bad start to 2019 podcast
What if Crowder comes on?
fifa22 fifa22
Crowder is not funny and gets butthurt easily but he's NOWHERE near this girl. She's beyond bad
watching this crypto-zionist self-righteous dingbat Jewish lady is painful.
She is at peak stupid in this interview!
Just as she complains that Israeli violence isn’t representative of all Jews (and she’s right, it’s not) she then goes on to infer that the beliefs and actions of Hammas somehow represent Palestinians. As if their actions justify the treatment of Palestine. The Palestinians are an oppressed minority. The UN has labeled Israel an apartheid state. The Netanyahu government controls the entire region. It’s pretty obvious who holds all the cards in the region.
And no, criticizing the state of Israel is not anti-semitism.
Though to be fair Palestinnians elected Hammas, all the Jews of the world didn't elect Israeli, she didn't imply all muslims, but it's reasonable to say that the actions of the elected government are representative of the people who elected them.
On a side note, did you notice how she claimed nobody is saying that criticizing Israel isn't anti Semitic, then called Omar an anti Semite for criticizing Israel
She's a hypocrite 100%.
Hey you are fucking great. No one isn't mentioning the fact you just made. I haven't even seen a comment on the Treaty of versailles.
She didn't say that. She said Israel giving over judea & samaria to the Palestinians could mean a hamas led state which would be a suicidal move by Israel
@@MillennialRabbi "Judea and Samaria", are you living in 754 BC? Btw. Israeli occupation and apartheid are documented, do not defend constant abuse of occupation and power by the IDF and settlers. If you are willing to learn, here is an Israeli human rights organization that tells it how it is!
www.btselem.org/apartheid
She is also pro Israel and guess what she’s Jewish. And totally misrepresents this anti semitism and doesn’t say anything against Israel’s crimes.
Fuck off anti semite
@Chris Landry Any anti semitism perpetuated by the followers of the Islamic faith is very troublesome. Two of the freshmen Congress were sworn in on the Quran. This is the most backwards and suppressive religion you can find. Along with the anti semitism they hold extreme homophobic views. To an Islamic follower the punishment for these 2 groups of people is death. Go educate yourself.
Antisemitism is just how the rest of the world rationally reacts to Jews.
@Blue Star That meme is so tired I'm certain you don't even believe it.
Are you folks kidding? Israel has EVERY right to be militant and hostile
This lady is painful to listen to
Why? What am I missing?
her haters are painful to listen to .
She's a Zionist...enough said!!!
@@maxxxstrong4577, are you saying that defending homophobic countries, or dictatorships is okay then?/ because isarel is neither, but you prefer to hate israel's existence rather than dictatorships like palestine?
@@eren34558 HAHAHA!!! HAHAHA!!! HAHAHA!!!! I hate Israel??? I Israel hates me ⚡🙋⚡
The biggest difference between Israel and China.. is Israel is supposed to be a good guy and our ally. Israel has never signed the Nuclear proliferation act. Why?
Also: Asking questions is not anti semitic.
eye80west why? Because Israel doesn’t have any nukes. 😉🤫😙
@@anathema2me4EVR Yes they do, it's a nuclear state, just like pretty much all US allies.
Meh. I am more worried about China. They are geographically and economically a much larger threat and they tend to get away with way too much.
@@catebee4431 that's true, but there were no dancing Chinese on Sept 11, 2001
Yeah, it's like seeing your brother beating up his wife and kids right in front of you. Then tell you that there is worse wife beaters out there. Like wtf man. You supposed to be one of us
"You cannot criticise somebody's ideas because of their identity" This is literally the aim of intersectionality.
Only if they're not white. If theyre white, its okay
Intersectionality focuses on looking for oppression primarily and not on treating individuals based on the content of their character
The constant search for oppression is what is appalling, because if you always look for oppression you will always find it even when it is not there
Everything she says is emotionally charged. I'm mentally drained just listening to her.
@@460mas why? For what?
That's females for you.
I'm so sorry you weren't given a trigger warning.
Are you ok???
@@jeplanet triggered? I'm fine. Are you okay?
@@460mas Zionist detected.
Stopped listening when she addressed her ‘white privilege’. Her criticism of anti-semitism includes ‘not all jews are white’. So somehow, if they were all white anti-semitism would be less bad? Maybe I’m reaching. But I can’t take this chick seriously.
Twan Willems yes, don’t you know that if you’re white, you get a free ticket to receive racism, prejudice, anti white propaganda, etc. so of course anti semitism would be less bad if Jews were white, you can literally say “I hate white people” and no one will bat an eye, but if you say “ I hate Mexicans” or “ I hate black people” then you’re in a world of trouble, I mean people are openly talking on social media (jokingly probably) about castrating white men, in order to make better men and less white men, and there’s a huge amount of people who don’t have a problem with this, except for people mostly on the right , but regardless if it was in a joking manner, I can’t help but think it wouldn’t be as well received if she switched “white” to black or any other race, don’t you know as white people, we have to shut up and put up with racism and just take it without saying anything, we have to get scrutinized and chastised every day, being told white men are the worst things on this earth, white men are sexist, racist and bigots, we are told we are predators in waiting, men is general regardless of color are told we need to be better, even though we do almost everything, like build the fucking places and societies they live, maintain that society, repair it, we work all the necessary jobs in order for the world to work, we literally do almost everything, yet we are told we need to be better, I’m just curious where are all the messages to the females, to Mexicans, to black people, telling them to be better, there are none
3 minutes in and my ears a bleeding
@@htboston soo you been single long i take it?
@@htboston If you ain't a Jew, sucks to be you.
Christopher Munson not the left the center
@Shabiha Assad I am attracted to personalities, but I can see she is attractive to lesser intelligent or lustful people.
I think she's as ugly as her heart. I wouldn't fuck her even if my wife asked me to do a three way with her.
You made it further than I did
Open Border For Israel
She deflects a lot.
I just looked up what she said about Jewish people being the most targeted minority... It is not true black people are 5 times more likely
@@MrFishateyokids same with Mexican Americans and Mexican immigrants
@@MrFishateyokids not for violent hate crime rates proportionally
She is extremely racist and is terribly misinformed. Her statements are never backed up with examples/facts. She just spouts her beliefs...she tried to get a Palestinian professor fired from Columbia because he was supportive of Palestinian rights. She’s an embarrassment to real journalism.
@@grothd09 I've been following the situation there all my life and she is 100% accurate about everything she says. You can tell she is legit because she visited the west bank and talked to people there, and is also critical of the Israeli government. You can spot a fanatic idiot when they don't acknowledge any wrongdoing on one side.
Abby told you everything. Why do u feel scared to tell her the truth?
Because multiple sides brother
I agree, I don't understand why he doesn't reference her and what she talked to him. Especially because Abby seems much more intelligent then this woman.
Aron Örn he should have quotes of Abby ready and see her response
Saad Alfouzan
Rogan can't remember everything abby said. Give him a break
@@stevencoardvenice True enough, but he must have taken some of her insight on the matter.
Joe: What’s a good source to read about this?
Barri: The New York Times!!!
Lol yah right
Adam G that shit had me weak
I laughed pretty good at this, but then it sorta made sense. You aren’t gonna give credit to a competitor.
Israel basically own NYT look into it .
@@chillingguy8386 How do you look into it? Do you google "Israel owns NY times"? because that's a pretty useless method.
Rogan, Shipiro, Peterson, Rubin do talk passionately about free speech.
Has anyone heard them say anything about the Palestinian speech and language therapist in Texas who was fired for refusing to sign an agreement not to support BDS.
If they don't know about it. Ok. If they do, and haven't spoken about it, I'm afraid that is a contradiction, and one wonders what to make of their free speech rhetoric.
Wow. What an august panel you postulate. Only Rogan is mostly objective and unpretentious, in addition to being a nice guy. Peterson and Shapiro are intellectual charlatans skilled in specious rhetoric and logical fallacy. Rubin is a moron, an ignorant dolt who endlessly makes a fool of himself in public. How on earth you can put those four together in a list is beyond me.
I think your wrong, they do know about it. They’re just hypocritical pieces of shit
@@fyt54321 Peterson never conflated racism with something else, unlike Ben who has a low bar for antisemitism. Peterson actually have a positive view of universal healthcare, welfare, and Noam Chomsky.
What org did the therapist work for? The government? A private org?
Rogan has Abby Martin on as a guest, someone who is the polar opposite of Bari
LMAO "NOBODY'S SAYING CRITICIZING ISRAEL IS ANTI-SEMETIC" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I'd rather listen to Eddie bravo than this broad any day.
Alex Robertson
Here here!
Agreed, at least Joe will call out Eddie when he goes off the rails lol
eddie is atleast self aware and probably closer to the truth somehow
But Joe Rogan is an agent shill now, so hes going to gradually steer his show to this kind of trash. Just watch.
I fux w Eddie. I'd like to have a beer w him. Prolly tell him he's full of shit sometimes, but generally a good guy.
Great dad!
This really shows alot about Joe, i love him, but i can't believe he's not calling bs to her bias.
Exactly how I felt.
Eh, i think hes worried about her saying "he was attacking me verbally and obviously sexist" and that kinda shit.. he's letting her make herself look ridiculous.
Maybe. I think it's better to just be "non-threatening", sit back and let the audience see what trash Zionists are. Joe could have on some more knowledgable anti-Zionists like Norman Finkelstein (for those who need the Jewish Shield of Protection; facts are facts regardless of the messenger but, this is Merka).
He knows it’s not going to do any good. These people are unreasonable and he doesn’t know enough on this topic
Define Bias Danny? because you make it sound like anti-zionists aren't biased.
"Check Jewish identity at the door" before joining a movement?!! That's some serious accusation she's making without backing it with any specific examples.
She should debate Norman Finkelstein
You will never see her on a one on one debate
She can’t even answer simple questions
what about jewish privilege?
James Sutton probably the ultimate privilege
@Bitola Otuken the us helps because israel is its only real leverage point in the middle east.
Cheers for that!!!
@@barukhgwisozzky3701 And thats why the US is in the state it is today, the US needs to find better "leverage points"
WWG1WGA! USA someone tried
She has “white privilege” but she doesn’t see herself as white...
She soo over dramatic
Yep welcome to the far side left and right. In this case the far left. So much emotion.. not much thinking.
@@grosebud4554 no this is extreme centrism. I guarantee you she would chastise and smear Bernie Sanders at the blink of an eye. agree or not with him, he's further left than the mainstream Democratic party and the NYT is an arm of the Dem party. so how does it make sense to say they're far left?
@@embreyd4e686 Oy Vey! Thats anti semitic!!
I feel like women like her anything even resembling conflict she is overly invested and dramatic about it. What’s crazy to me we are still having religious wars. It’s is so crazy I feel religion is the true cancer of the world. Why can’t we have individual spirituality that doesn’t need the approval of others because it’s a internal. Accountability, respect, empathy and the ability to learn are the true virtues of humanity.
Steve Rosebud she ain’t far left
Everyone’s talking shit in the comments but no one is debating her actual arguments. Nothing she said was wrong
That's the mindset of the Jew-hater...
They're too dumb to debate them so they'll ignore the relevancy of what they say.
She has loads of conviction until questioned ....and then " I'm almost positive ...." And that is how bad information being spread starts.
Rewatch this in light of current events. She was absolutely correct.
I just listened to this another two times and not once does she say what you've ascribed to her.
So many odd logic gaps in this girl’s defence of Israel:
- on one hand she criticizes the world for hyper-focusing on Israel when dictatorships are doing far worse, but then she turns around and brags about Israel being this oasis of Western Democracy surrounded by hostile actors. But if it were such a beacon of democracy, it wouldn’t need to go out of its way to prevent masses of Arabs from forming the majority in Israel, and it wouldn’t be rounding up black/Ethiopian Jews - who are actually more Semitic than white Jews - in an effort to deport masses of them.
- she acts like Israel is in such a risky position, but then she later refutes her point when she says how Egypt has had a longstanding peace with them and Saudi Arabia has largely sided with Israel against Iran (and if you have Saudi cover in the region, you’re certainly not alone). And of course the entire argument is silly when looking at the Israeli military - largely funded by America.
- lastly she makes no mention of the downright atrocious oppression and human rights abuses against Palestinians. Locking up children and destroying any chance of building an economy, which she naively states as a solution as if she doesn’t know Israel has effectively shut down any Palestinian economy by completely controlling the flow of goods in and out... what a crock.
And I do not think Israel is inherently bad, and there have been Israeli politicians on the right (er left) side of these issues. But people attacking those speaking out about Israel’s current oppressive policies are part of the problem - period.
We don’t talk about the autocrats as much because they don’t claim to be a “Western Democracy.” They also don’t take nearly as much American tax dollars as Israel, or have the lobby power in Congress...
This is actually the perfect video for any people who are critical of Israel to show the whitewashing by so-called “centre-left” defenders of Bibi.
Well said
Joe "Abby Martin came back from there with some horrible stories".
Weiss "She focuses on only the horrible things Israel is doing."
Right ?!?! Imagine her In a one on one debate with Abby lol .
Imagine saying that about North Korea or 40s Germany
“No one in saying that criticism of Israel is anti-semitism” LOOOL
She just said that the congresswoman tweet on Israel was textbook anti-semitism.
Good lord Joe Rogan has a bunch of Jew hating fans. Wow!
Joe go to Palestine and Gaza and make your own judgment
Raksody chiiiill
Fuckin right!
@@Raksody It's good that they let you out of the padded room sometimes, but I wish they'd stop letting you sperg out in the comments sections with your demented nonsense.
@@Jonabob87 got nothing beter to say? I guess you have to resort to personal attacks when you cant really argue with logical points
@@almostafa4725 and the Jews, Christians, Muslims and atheists that live in israel get along peacefully now.
Everyone outside those walls wants to wipe them off the map. FUCK those people. They had their chance in the 6 day war, when they ganged up with Syria Egypt and Jordan, and Israel curbstomped them in 6 days.
Gimme a break NYT come on
The Failing New York Times??
Some of her assertions are not that well supported. She’s bothered by coverage of Israel, yet she’s part of the the media
Yeah im shocked a rabid Zionist works directly for the NYTs. Lol
It's a good thing she said she is Jewish, otherwise I never would have guessed.
You’re the anti-Semite she’s talking about.
@@ragged_claws_scuttling Sorry you thought your ad-hominem response to a comment from 2 years ago would have some power over me.
The woman begins with "Criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism!,"then goes on to paint the criticisms of "the state of Israel" as anti-Semitic.
Well this was a train wreck
Have her to debate real knowledgable activities like MIKO PELED, MAX Blumanthal, Prof.Pappas.
Why are they the only people that get to have a ‘tribe’ ?
'Antisemitism...The mystery of history'
😄 😄 😄
🤣🤣🤣
Kicked out of 109 bars.
She says she has white skin but doesn't consider herself white. Is that so she can attack "white privilege" and keep her conscious clear? I'm sure she's a perfectly nice lady, I'm just so fed up with identity politics. But it's Joe's show so I'm willing to hear out
Edit: I went on to read some more of the comments and I'm starting to regret piling on. There's some borderline nonsense on here. Half Jew and just wanna say it's not a personal attack on that aspect of her. Just the identity politics.
@Emperor Augustus You're wrong. Most Jews are European converts. They have no ancestral ties to the Holy Land. The Palestinians are the descendants of Canaan.
@Emperor Augustus the anti semitic conspiracy theorist wave will blow over soon. I want to believe this is a vocal minority and not a big part of Joe's audience
Oh noes half Jew, you better start kvetching about it.
@@user-cu6ii3gv1x th-cam.com/video/vd5zHPX4Td4/w-d-xo.html
You could always talk to this guy about it.
She thinks she is as jew better than the white men.
This absolutely hilarious that she accuses Progressives of anti-Semitism, and yet doesn't blink an eye at their racism towards white men. Just skipped right over it.
Uh, no. YOU skipped right over where she DID talk about it. She clearly pointed out that Jews are hated in part precisely "because" they are considered to have "white privelage" etc.. and that people are way quicker to come out against someone for anti-semitism if it is a white guy like Richard Spencer compared to progressives who happen to be minority like Linda Sarsour, Ilhan Omar, or Louis Farrakhan who are far more dangerous to jews than the so called alt-right. That's because white people are demonized as well in today's society. White people are to progressive minorities what Jews historically were to the christian hegemony of europe in times past. A boogie-man that all the hatred, ill-will, and labels can be stuck to and blamed on.
Hey, Bari, no other "state" that violates human rights gets $38B of our tax dollars!
Luis Francis she isn't the only one that misses this fact.
Understandable, but important
“I don’t think of myself as a white person, I think of myself as a Jew.” All I needed to hear.
"Ideas and not identity"
"Everyone has to acknowledge my particular interpretation of Jewish identity or they're antiSemitic"
She just finds any article reads the title and Joe pretends to believe it
Jews are playing on the both sides
What does USA and Israel have so much in common to make it the greatest ally?
Well, Mr. Last, both our nations spread into no man's land, kicked some native ass and established ourself in harsh environment. Only different is that in our case, no great movie genre came out of it and our motivation was somewhat different: You took the land because you wanted gold. We took the land cause we grow weary of getting through a door and exiting through a chimney. All because we killed J.C. So you know what? we're sorry. OK? but it's been 2,000 fucking years, man! Snape out of it!
I saw her glasses and i knew what words were going to come out of her mouth. They have no individuality.
Black frames. Clear lenses. NPC accessory.
She was probably cute 5 years ago.
# 63G774298 it’s not so much the glasses but the shitty clothes they wear. None of them try and look feminine. Dummy is wearing an undershirt to one of the most watched podcasts on the internet.
@@conjandysecurity She looks anatomically correct me
Uhh.. your a fuck8mg idiot. Christ it blows my mind how dumb and anti Semitic half of rogans fans are
old russian proverb : The jew will always tell you what happened to them but never tell you why it happened
Epic.
Wow I didn't know anti semitism was world wide. I thought it was just a germany thing. Hrmm I wonder why everyone dislikes Jews.
@@fauxfox7209
Because they're successful
Well enlighten us, why do people hate the Jews, in your opinion?
Go fuck yourself.
so this is what they mean with the stereotype of "paranoid jew". wow.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you
You can see it In her posture
. Hunched like t rex, the table is holding her up
So I'm supposed to watch her video where she is miseducated about Tulsi Gabbard, and then just trust her on Middle East policy? Lol
I wonder why Joe doesn't read the comments on any of his videos. Hmm......
This woman is very mixed up.
Interesting seeing the Established perspective.
The US government gives 5-8 billion per yr to Israel so I think we should have a say about how the weapons we give them are being used.
Actually people say criticizing Israel is anti semitic all the time... basically all the Bill's past or tried to pass n everywhere else... I've seen it more often than not actually
It's all tribal. It will always be tribal.
It's a long memory from Roman times...i.e. the beginning of the "Western World"...
Judea was a very unstable province because Hellenists and Jews didn't get along and after several perceived insults to Judaism from governors and legionaries the public became irredeemably rebellious...
The Jews actually rebelled 3 times in the empire:
Bellum Iudaicum - The Great Revolt around 70 - 71 AD...ended with the sack of Jerusalem and destruction of the Temple
Kitos War - Around 115 AD, was an empire wide "revenge insurrection" against the Hellenist pagans by Jews in the empire...reportedly, the Jews decimated pagan temples all over the Mediterranean in Egypt Cyprus Cyrenaica some Greek islands as well
Bar Kokhba Revolt - Around 132 AD, an initially successful rebellion led by a false messiah known as Bar Kokhba. The Roman garrison and 2 legions were destroyed and Judea had autonomy for 2 years before Rome could gather enough forces to retake it.
If you ask me, I think the Kitos War probably did a number on Jewish PR for the average non-Jew in the empire back then.
Are you a historian?
I wish more replies and tweets looked like yours. G-d I miss genuine comments of intellect.
"intersectionality is a dead end" - smartest thing she said
13:42 The length of time it takes for her to formulate a lukewarm wishywashy response to the ONLY question she should have had a fully flushed out opinion and stance on really confirms and supports this healthy like to dislike ratio. She as a self pronounced Zionist refuses to condemn any Israeli action contrary to the position she claims to have and has not demonstrated in any way.
I love how she conveniently ignores the fact that Israel funded Hamas in the 80s and 90s to undermine Fatah. It’s almost as if Israel is directly responsible for the very thing she decries as Israel’s greatest threat
Criticizing Israeli terrorism doesn't make you anti-Semitic
Random Jews been beaten up in New York every other day really
Ashkenazi Jews have been living in Europe for over 800 years and have very little Jewish ancestry, they are mostly European which is why they look like they do. The claim the Jewish identity because it furthers their ability to gain power and wealth. It's basically an exclusive club.
Idk man bari looks pure Jewish.
@@Nnnnn636 pure jewish? Are you serious?
@@deistormmods yep
I would pay good money to see Joe moderate a fight between Abby Martin and Bari Weiss! Where's the kickstarter?
Um the white patriarchy stereotype is the exact SAME as the Jewish stereotype!!!
Plenty of people say criticising Israel is the same thing as anti-Semitism
I see a lot of fair criticism of her clear bias on some issues, but the explanation she goes into when she talks about if Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip is , in my opinion, very well thought out and compelling
It's a copy and paste talking point that Zionists make when they are cycling through their soundbites.
Bari isn't even very good at it, anyone who has experience and knowledge would pick her argument apart, and she is a freaken NYtimes columnist professing knowledge of issues in Israel, Syria, Lebanon and the Middle East.
At best she went to Israel as a Jewish American Student in a "Birthright Tour" sponsored by the IDF and received her basic indoctrination, she is a total idiot.
Bad guest.
Get over it.
I didnt like abby martin, so fucking what
Horrible guest.
@@barukhgwisozzky3701 get over what? He's just giving his opinion.
There is no bad guest. Every opinion must be understood and debated...
it' the jw rogan podcast after all.
I don't understand the antisemitism that seems so rampant these days, It's very disturbing to me.
"I don't think of myself as White, I think of myself as a Jew".
Hmmm, all those weird Coincidences I keep experiencing make a lot of sense now.
"Imperfect victim"
Wow. VERY well-said
Her justification of apartheid 14:45.
Exactly!!! and based off a completely biased "what if" scenario
I’m sorry you have been taught to believe that Christians blame Jews for the death of Jesus. We do not. Such a belief is not represented in our Testament which must be read in context, not in prejudice.
It's anti-Semitic to criticize Israel?
Wtf?!
So if I go and criticize a restaurant, am I an Anti-Chef, anti-Butler, anti-Maitre'd around all the world ?
Her heavy voice makes it Cringefest for my ears
joe "i agree with whoever comes on my show" rogan
Except Eddie Bravo
When all truth has made absolutely subjective, with no common anchor or grounds in objective reality - then emotions become the new absolute standard. It used to be that if we disagree, then we would engage in discourse. Now it’s assumed that if we disagree, you are attacking my very identity and tribe. We need to get back to objective truth, or civility is done for.
Ahh, a fellow student of critical thought.👍
12:40 maybe that is exactly why you should judge people first on the merit of their character and not on the outward appearance, things that inter-sectionalism seems to focus on? just a thought.
This woman should not be considered a writer.
Chill out! Have a Fizzy Bubblech...
Wow never thought I would dislike a JR segment
It's called cognitive dissonance
If not religious, or of the same origin, why "peoplehood"? What makes them identify as a member of that group? Status? Elitism? Supremecy?
I'm very pro-Palestinian, but many of these comments are anti-semitic. That really does a disservice to Palestinians, and weakens their case.
Here is a suggestion Joe, if you're going to have a guest to speak on a complicated subject like this please have someone else with opposing view. We want to hear both sides of the argument from well-informed people. This woman went unchallenged and it is very frustrating.
She reminds me of my ex-wife. BTW, we divorced 20 years ago.
I'm an American and would give my blood to defend this soil?
Signed contract 5 x with us
The focus on Israel is partly due to the fact that the U.S. Taxpayers prop up the country - it gives us thr right to criticize
"We're not a country based on blood and soil. We're a county whose national common identity its based on ascribing a set of ideas."
Yeah, right. Tell that to black people.
1.3k dislikes vindicates her argument perfectly.
The fact that scrolling down you're the first comment to not be Anti Israel does so, too.
Her: speaking against Israel is not anti-semitic, Israel has nothing to do with jews directly
minutes later: 12:30
Imagine knowing about the Uighur genocide a year and a half ago and it’s STILL GOING ON