I find the subjects of Victoria and her numerous diaries endlessly fascinating! I've been keeping journals since I was six, nearly seven years old. Just began writing ✍ my 44th volume. It is quite remarkable Victoria wrote 122 volumes in her lifetime! Part of me wants to reach that number some day...a very full life, well-documented.
Technically she was the monarch of a country who valued freedom above all. Her children probably wanted her to remain beloved and feared. Like a popularity image of absolute authority? They couldn't have predicted how the world would eventually become in the near future... plus in the 20th century (1900s) it was considered scandalous for public figureheads to be like an actual human being. Any 'flaw' had to be rooted out. In the 21st century, things are different now because our worldview has changed. 🤗 But there are still times when we all over-idolize a person and treat them like an alien, over being human. It is an unhealthy habit. People are just people. There is good and bad in them, and sometimes things aren't really as bad as they are hyped up to be... ☺ In a way, we can also consider that her children wanted to protect her. They probably couldn't trust others so they took matters into their own hands. If you consider the timeline in which this happened then their way of thinking was plausible. It could've also served as a sort of excuse, though the reality we might never know. Just take it with a pinch of salt. 😅
Eh, if I ever have kids, I hope they burn everything, when I die and just remember the good times. I'll definitely take them to Hawaii, manipulative "for the gram" 😁
I think it's lovely that she placed her husband on a pedestal after he passed away. I relate because my husband passed away unexpectedly and I have placed him on a pedestal. I love and miss him terribly. In fact anyone who disrespected him before he died, I have written off. He is gone only 8 months. Anyway, I do believe Queen Victoria was so beautiful as a young woman. I love Europe and her history.
My condolences to you in your grief. My mother never fully recovered from my father's death, nearly twenty years ago. I wish you strength to overcome your sorrow. 🤍
I love learning about historical figures from people who have spent their lives studying them. Because, not only do you learn the history, but you learn the love (and the joy and the sorrow and the mess). It's like you're getting to know someone else's best friend. Who just so happens to have been a queen of England. Today, I learned there are large holes in what I thought I knew of her, as well as the Victorians. I knew they were never as top buttoned and conservative as everyone in the past 40 years has thought. But as it turns out, they're even more relaxed still. I know the queen herself was an anomaly. But still. What a lovely documentary indeed.
It must be wonderful to be among the parks, buildings and spirit of the history of The British Isles. Though I will not personally ever be there, I live vicariously through these videos.
I think that we ALL wish that we had somebody like John Brown in our lives. Queen Victoria was such a saucy woman, and I love it. She definitely was NOT a "conventional" queen, by any means. However, she DID command respect by those around her. I think that we all can take a few pages out of her book, so to speak, by treating people, who are less fortunate than us, with the same exact respect that we show people around us.
It’s so hard to really know, because her diaries were not really her own. And, sorry, marriage doesn’t necessarily infantilize one. My marriage has freed me to be who I was born to be.
I'd agree, my marriage is the same. But times were different 100 years ago, and a womans expectations for her own life were shaped by the society around them.
@@s.a.8548 - Absolutely, think about Margret Beaufort, mother to king Henry VII and that was in the 1500s. But generally, for long periods of time women were not commonly educated like men were. Christina of Sweeden was educated, as was Lady Jane Grey. So they knew at some level women were capable of the same intelligence...
Back then they did, and women were definitely seen more as possessions of their husbands. But I agree most modern marriages are unions of individuals for a life long partnership.
Grand that Victoria expanded her scope after Albert died, rose to the occasion by becoming a knowledgeable and adroit monarch. Engineering. Mr Browns place in her life
Fascinating! Completely changes my perspective on Victoria. Great doc and I like the host's style, and how there seems to be an easy understanding between himself and the interview subjects. I hope it gets more views!
Interesting point of view on Victoria. I don’t agree Albert controlled her. She was an only child and very stubborn with a hyper dependence on Governess Lehzen who constantly tried to come between the Queen and her husband. She had a feral temper, didn’t like her babies, and totally adored Albert who was an honest hardworking man who did so much for Great Britain and eventually got her to keep her temper in check. Plus she had PP depression after every child which would have been very hard for everyone around her, especially herself to fulfilll all the duties of monarchy if Albert had not been by her side. I wonder if she hadn’t help Unite the German states if WW1 wouldn’t have been so easy? To organise??
Albert was condescending and controlling. By the standards of the era he wasn't unusual, but he often implied she was low-key crazy due to her family history (George III) and the simple fact that she was a woman. There was nothing wrong with Victoria. Being emotional isn't a character flaw.
The old saying.. You can always tell a German but you can't tell them much is sooo true. I agree that Albert, well actually everyone but Melbourne and Lehzen treated her as if she was an idiot, and tried to control her.
Glad to see not everything was destroyed Hmm. To destroy a person's records of their true personality to protect a false image. How saddling. After the passing of Albert there was nothing shameful about Victoria looking for a companion friend in mr. Brown.
I feel like I’d want even my most embarrassing writings to be available when I’m gone. When compared to my success now, my children and grandchildren could learn of my imperfections and find that what they’re going through isn’t unusual.
Our host has a number of interesting outfits especially that last one in pink and green showcased beginning at 52:57. Great doc but way too many commercials.
What a shame that Queen Victoria’s children destroyed such a big part of UK history, particularly with regard to the maternal relationship she had with Abdul Karim. He was very good to Queen Victoria and was of great comfort to her the last 14 years of her life. Her children should have been as caring, particularly Bertie (King Edward VII). He was an embarrassment with his womanizing and gambling ways.
Virtually nobody besides Victoria herself liked Karim. The other servants despised him because he claimed he could do anything and have anything because he was the Queen's favourite. The royals didn't like him for much the same reasons, that's why he was packed off back to India on Victoria's death. The film is not realistic - it is for entertainment purposes.
Queen Victoria only "lives on through her journal's through the views of Princess Beatrice. Most of the original journals were burned in a massive bonfire fed by all her years of observations, views and options. Academically we will perhaps never come to grips with this remarkable woman? Most of history during this period as we are all aware, was written by men.
It is very sad when families destroy letters and diaries because they think it improper. So much is lost to History. It is sadly the same in all Royal Families across the World. For example Louis X1V's brother Phillipe, was openly gay, despite having two wives and several children. Phillipe had one lover The Chevalier de Lorraine, they maintained a relationship throughout Phillipe's life. Unfortunately upon his death, Phillipe's widow Elizabeth Charlotte destroyed all correspondence between the two men in case anyone should find out (a little naive), that the King's Brother had the "Italian Vice". Today History buffs would love to know more about that relationship in the times they lived. The Chevalier was turfed out of his Royal Apartment next to that of the Prince. He died a pauper, his friends having to pay for his funeral. Elizabeth knew that the Chevalier was the love of her husbands life and yet she refused to acknowledge him or help give him a decent burial. The Chevalier was in fact of a more noble house than that of the Bourbons, however I guess being gay in the 18thC condemned you to anonimity.
While it is true. Victoria’s situation is not unique. Many male rulers were too heavily influenced by their female consort, modern example such as Elizabeth the Queen Mother. Earlier example we have Elisabeth Farnese, Catherine I of Russia, and the list goes on.
My God is my witness and I bow down to Him alone that truth speaks. I am glad I don't owe anyone explanation as God is my witness to whom alone I bow and who in His love always makes me shine ,the only thing I have ever wanted was my angel back even if it meant I had to walk on FIRE And yes I walked through fire but not any fire this is Holy Fire .Now she has her angel back but now she is seeing why the Fire.
I don't know why a woman needing a man in her life is likened to needing a crutch. A man who needs a woman in his life isn't referred to as needing a crutch. A woman may be more open about her needs for a strong partner, but a man often does as well, but isn't as socially allowed to express that need openly. This interesting program is so well done, but enough with the "crutch" comparisons!
I wish historians would get their facts right. Henry VIII published a book as well as his 6th Wife Catherine Parr. These are only 2 examples. I beleive there was another in the Middle Ages as well. This dude seems to be more of a fanboy than a historian. But hey, that's ok too.
She surely was quite the Lass..lol I can't imagine that living as a Royal was, or is any fun.. I suppose having so many people around you, ALL THE TIME, can get on your last nerve! Not to mention always giving you advice and opinion... After all, she was a Human like anyone else, and suffered the same emotions as anyone else...
Victoria had to break the betrayal barrier of God for taking her angel from her in order to have her angel being given back to her.This was to make Victoria to bow down to God and say Amen in everything understood and not understood like her beloved now golden angel.God has taught her so much and my ANGEL has patiently stood by for his little spoiled brat to grow in faith to know who,why and what.
"This woman acted like a woman" *deafening applause I mean it was interesting and all, but i send text messages here once and a while and go bike riding sometimes but I don't think any of that worthy of praise.
I wonder did she write about why she allowed at least one million of her then Irish subjects to starve to death from 1846 to 1851 while another million were forced to emigrate before they too would starve to death. Shame on her, shame on her. Liam Burke
I find the subjects of Victoria and her numerous diaries endlessly fascinating! I've been keeping journals since I was six, nearly seven years old. Just began writing ✍ my 44th volume. It is quite remarkable Victoria wrote 122 volumes in her lifetime! Part of me wants to reach that number some day...a very full life, well-documented.
John Brown was her much needed therapist, confidant, friend. I hate that Victoria's children deleted some of her journal entries.
Not her children -- ONE of her children.
Technically she was the monarch of a country who valued freedom above all. Her children probably wanted her to remain beloved and feared. Like a popularity image of absolute authority? They couldn't have predicted how the world would eventually become in the near future... plus in the 20th century (1900s) it was considered scandalous for public figureheads to be like an actual human being. Any 'flaw' had to be rooted out. In the 21st century, things are different now because our worldview has changed. 🤗 But there are still times when we all over-idolize a person and treat them like an alien, over being human. It is an unhealthy habit. People are just people. There is good and bad in them, and sometimes things aren't really as bad as they are hyped up to be... ☺ In a way, we can also consider that her children wanted to protect her. They probably couldn't trust others so they took matters into their own hands. If you consider the timeline in which this happened then their way of thinking was plausible. It could've also served as a sort of excuse, though the reality we might never know. Just take it with a pinch of salt. 😅
Eh, if I ever have kids, I hope they burn everything, when I die and just remember the good times.
I'll definitely take them to Hawaii, manipulative "for the gram" 😁
he was a daddy🤣
She asked Beatrice to do it towards the end of her life.
I think it's lovely that she placed her husband on a pedestal after he passed away. I relate because my husband passed away unexpectedly and I have placed him on a pedestal. I love and miss him terribly. In fact anyone who disrespected him before he died, I have written off. He is gone only 8 months. Anyway, I do believe Queen Victoria was so beautiful as a young woman. I love Europe and her history.
My condolences to you in your grief. My mother never fully recovered from my father's death, nearly twenty years ago. I wish you strength to overcome your sorrow. 🤍
I love learning about historical figures from people who have spent their lives studying them. Because, not only do you learn the history, but you learn the love (and the joy and the sorrow and the mess). It's like you're getting to know someone else's best friend. Who just so happens to have been a queen of England.
Today, I learned there are large holes in what I thought I knew of her, as well as the Victorians. I knew they were never as top buttoned and conservative as everyone in the past 40 years has thought. But as it turns out, they're even more relaxed still. I know the queen herself was an anomaly. But still.
What a lovely documentary indeed.
27th July 1866
Dear Diary,
According to my neighbours diary, I have "boundary issues"...
😮🤔😅
This documentary should be called, "ONE IS AMUSED!"
As a loving mother to my kid's. I can't relate to her cold heartedness to her children...... I feel sorry for them.
It must be wonderful to be among the parks, buildings and spirit of the history of The British Isles. Though I will not personally ever be there, I live vicariously through these videos.
sounds like she really lived her life after age 40, marvelous
I think that we ALL wish that we had somebody like John Brown in our lives. Queen Victoria was such a saucy woman, and I love it. She definitely was NOT a "conventional" queen, by any means. However, she DID command respect by those around her.
I think that we all can take a few pages out of her book, so to speak, by treating people, who are less fortunate than us, with the same exact respect that we show people around us.
It’s so hard to really know, because her diaries were not really her own. And, sorry, marriage doesn’t necessarily infantilize one. My marriage has freed me to be who I was born to be.
I'd agree, my marriage is the same. But times were different 100 years ago, and a womans expectations for her own life were shaped by the society around them.
@@christines3638 Even a 100 years ago I'm sure there were women who felt the same way you felt about your marriages.
@@s.a.8548 - Absolutely, think about Margret Beaufort, mother to king Henry VII and that was in the 1500s. But generally, for long periods of time women were not commonly educated like men were. Christina of Sweeden was educated, as was Lady Jane Grey. So they knew at some level women were capable of the same intelligence...
Back then they did, and women were definitely seen more as possessions of their husbands. But I agree most modern marriages are unions of individuals for a life long partnership.
S. Ali that kind of marriage would have been hard to come by in the 1800s and before. Even well into the 1940s and 50s women were severely repressed.
Great doco. Was pleasant listening to it while walking
Her diary were totally rewritten by her youngest Daughter , (Princesses Beatrice ) , and orginals where also destroyed by the same , daughter.
King George V and Queen Mary were appalled at what Beatrice did to Queen Victoria’s journal.
Grand that Victoria expanded her scope after Albert died, rose to the occasion by becoming a knowledgeable and adroit monarch. Engineering.
Mr Browns place in her life
Fascinating! Completely changes my perspective on Victoria. Great doc and I like the host's style, and how there seems to be an easy understanding between himself and the interview subjects. I hope it gets more views!
Interesting point of view on Victoria. I don’t agree Albert controlled her. She was an only child and very stubborn with a hyper dependence on Governess Lehzen who constantly tried to come between the Queen and her husband. She had a feral temper, didn’t like her babies, and totally adored Albert who was an honest hardworking man who did so much for Great Britain and eventually got her to keep her temper in check. Plus she had PP depression after every child which would have been very hard for everyone around her, especially herself to fulfilll all the duties of monarchy if Albert had not been by her side. I wonder if she hadn’t help Unite the German states if WW1 wouldn’t have been so easy? To organise??
Albert was condescending and controlling. By the standards of the era he wasn't unusual, but he often implied she was low-key crazy due to her family history (George III) and the simple fact that she was a woman. There was nothing wrong with Victoria. Being emotional isn't a character flaw.
You try dealing with someone hysterical and then tell me it isn't a character flaw.
The old saying.. You can always tell a German but you can't tell them much is sooo true. I agree that Albert, well actually everyone but Melbourne and Lehzen treated her as if she was an idiot, and tried to control her.
She was so ahead of her time
Glad to see not everything was destroyed Hmm. To destroy a person's records of their true personality to protect a false image. How saddling.
After the passing of Albert there was nothing shameful about Victoria looking for a companion friend in mr. Brown.
I feel like I’d want even my most embarrassing writings to be available when I’m gone. When compared to my success now, my children and grandchildren could learn of my imperfections and find that what they’re going through isn’t unusual.
Yes, do not judge a book by its cover
John Brown had something VERY special underneath that kilt!
Our host has a number of interesting outfits especially that last one in pink and green showcased beginning at 52:57. Great doc but way too many commercials.
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Love the story of Abdul
The movie was not accurate though, it was largely embellished for entertainment.
Have her journals been published to the public? Would love to read them.
Late to the party, but it’s all here www.queenvictoriasjournals.org/home.do
Yes....they say here she sold 100,000 copies...still in print, available For Kindle, paperback and hard cover
Love this
well done.
waiting for you to mention her opposition against women having the vote....
Princess Beatrice destroyed most of her mother's journals ?
I would luv to see what was destroyed in her journals. Must have been so unroyal like! But that would make her even more amazing. Haha
I'm not so sure kind understanding and gentle is part of the job description for a Royal Court servant.
What a shame that Queen Victoria’s children destroyed such a big part of UK history, particularly with regard to the maternal relationship she had with Abdul Karim. He was very good to Queen Victoria and was of great comfort to her the last 14 years of her life. Her children should have been as caring, particularly Bertie (King Edward VII). He was an embarrassment with his womanizing and gambling ways.
Virtually nobody besides Victoria herself liked Karim. The other servants despised him because he claimed he could do anything and have anything because he was the Queen's favourite. The royals didn't like him for much the same reasons, that's why he was packed off back to India on Victoria's death. The film is not realistic - it is for entertainment purposes.
i spose victoria and brown where romantic friends, like lincoln and joshua
Queen victoria's life was a journey that was written on her journal
We know, we all read the title.
Thank you. This was fascinating and incitfull. I never liked her until now.
She needed no male or any crouch,she yearned for friendship in this cold country.
12:23 liev Schreiber smolder lol
Who knew politicians were so scared of laughter? 😂😂
Queen Victoria only "lives on through her journal's through the views of Princess Beatrice. Most of the original journals were burned in a massive bonfire fed by all her years of observations, views and options. Academically we will perhaps never come to grips with this remarkable woman? Most of history during this period as we are all aware, was written by men.
Didn't Beatrice burn half of Vic's diaries
It is very sad when families destroy letters and diaries because they think it improper. So much is lost to History. It is sadly the same in all Royal Families across the World. For example Louis X1V's brother Phillipe, was openly gay, despite having two wives and several children. Phillipe had one lover The Chevalier de Lorraine, they maintained a relationship throughout Phillipe's life. Unfortunately upon his death, Phillipe's widow Elizabeth Charlotte destroyed all correspondence between the two men in case anyone should find out (a little naive), that the King's Brother had the "Italian Vice". Today History buffs would love to know more about that relationship in the times they lived. The Chevalier was turfed out of his Royal Apartment next to that of the Prince.
He died a pauper, his friends having to pay for his funeral. Elizabeth knew that the Chevalier was the love of her husbands life and yet she refused to acknowledge him or help give him a decent burial. The Chevalier was in fact of a more noble house than that of the Bourbons, however I guess being gay in the 18thC condemned you to anonimity.
While it is true. Victoria’s situation is not unique. Many male rulers were too heavily influenced by their female consort, modern example such as Elizabeth the Queen Mother.
Earlier example we have Elisabeth Farnese, Catherine I of Russia, and the list goes on.
Platonic relationships can be just as wonderful and fun as intimate relationships. Ask any aroace.
When Albert died she was done.
Not true, she learnt to live again & enjoyed life.
@@jackr1779 "Learned" she did not.
@@jorgedominguez1957 Incorrect.
Victorian Era 1837-1901.
Her journals are wat her daughter rewrote to sanitize her record.
Yeah she lives through her journals but don't you wonder what was in the pages her daughter got rid of ?? :)
I am SO curious!
My God is my witness and I bow down to Him alone that truth speaks. I am glad I don't owe anyone explanation as God is my witness to whom alone I bow and who in His love always makes me shine ,the only thing I have ever wanted was my angel back even if it meant I had to walk on FIRE And yes I walked through fire but not any fire this is Holy Fire .Now she has her angel back but now she is seeing why the Fire.
Was her Majesty left handed?
Victorian Era Policing.
Policeman Bobbies.
Law & Order.
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So... does my pickle battery count?
Marriage does infantilize people, in her delirium she turned him into a demigod, ---this host ....cold and enjoyable. Like if Stewie was real lol
I don't know why a woman needing a man in her life is likened to needing a crutch. A man who needs a woman in his life isn't referred to as needing a crutch. A woman may be more open about her needs for a strong partner, but a man often does as well, but isn't as socially allowed to express that need openly. This interesting program is so well done, but enough with the "crutch" comparisons!
Queen victoria clearly had a D/S with brown and historians be saying: "We cannot say they were nothing more than friends"
COME ON!!
I wish historians would get their facts right. Henry VIII published a book as well as his 6th Wife Catherine Parr. These are only 2 examples. I beleive there was another in the Middle Ages as well. This dude seems to be more of a fanboy than a historian. But hey, that's ok too.
She surely was quite the Lass..lol
I can't imagine that living as a Royal was, or is any fun..
I suppose having so many people around you, ALL THE TIME, can get on your last nerve! Not to mention always giving you advice and opinion...
After all, she was a Human like anyone else, and suffered the same emotions as anyone else...
John brown and Victoria were the first friends with benefits
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Victoria had to break the betrayal barrier of God for taking her angel from her in order to have her angel being given back to her.This was to make Victoria to bow down to God and say Amen in everything understood and not understood like her beloved now golden angel.God has taught her so much and my ANGEL has patiently stood by for his little spoiled brat to grow in faith to know who,why and what.
She lived an i
deal of German pietism and Albert the same. And their kids were brought up the same way. Her daughter did just as she taught her.
Her children were thee absolute worst!!
Not really
@@lporquai9048 in my opinion they were.
They were both narcissistic
"This woman acted like a woman"
*deafening applause
I mean it was interesting and all, but i send text messages here once and a while and go bike riding sometimes but I don't think any of that worthy of praise.
*Once "In" a while.
@@werallgonnadi3035 NO
@@K74amina um, YES
@@tammichenard1024 NO
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I wonder did she write about why she allowed at least one million of her then Irish subjects to starve to death from 1846 to 1851 while another million were forced to emigrate before they too would starve to death. Shame on her, shame on her. Liam Burke
She had no power in this regard.
Who in the actual fuck is this "queen"? What did she do? Somebody! Explain that to me!
The bumpy experience chemically drop because drawbridge regionally sniff pace a ossified circle. alleged, lopsided cemetery
jesus, british teeth...
I enjoy this series but the not so subtle feminist agenda spoils it all.