icly vs cobra

Settings:
cobra: 3pps, depth 10, burst on, pc on
"can confirm it's better than zzztoj"
"very good at counterattack" - icly
Changes:
- Introduce early particle decay in search with hyper thin void window at final layer (~5.2% nps gain and ~5460% better memory usage)
- Improved the burst algorithm, now it bursts more actively and accurately
- Minor tweaks to finesse engine for better human simulation (still WIP)
- Cobra is now has some knowledge of garbage travel delay
Set played on 17th May 2024

[@Zetris]

too pro

[@cobra-tetris]

wow zetris my idol

[@Zakaarus]

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ZETRIS

[@gervin51VideoLikePro]

Zetris' disciple has improved to the point it becomes it's own master

[@voidbreak4756]

new updates:
- updated cobra to play more like human at lower speeds yet make bigger spoike
- updated icly to play more like bot with consistent stacking

[@kixenon]

5:32 is peak

[@BeCrazy_]

W T F

[@puffonxe_9529]

oh bruh i thought cobra was a player i didnt know of

[@_wetmath_]

SAME i was like how is this guy so good 😭😭

[@chibideo394]

The only bot i see is icly

[@tfae]

technically they are

[@Lacter12]

"why is this guy movememt so weird is he a controller- oh"

[@carlossaliba3478]

that was literally my reaction watching this, the entire time i was like "damn this guy plays like a bot wtf... oh wait-"

[@_wetmath_]

5:32 what is that tspin, soft drop -> ccw -> 180 -> 180 -> 180 -> hard drop

[@gizer-bs1476]

It looked like a human until it just accepted its death.

[@douknowkimchi]

9:02 wtf

[@nitricacid2516]

This is my new favorite tetris bot

[@ethryn_gaming5065]

this is going to be a full review so lmao.
it took a while before i was very sure it was a bot; the piece placement timing is pretty regular, and it does the speed up/slow down thing zzztoj does too, which was pretty telling. the build at 0:35 was when i was sure enough to be like ok bot.
this bot is more fun to watch than zzztoj, and not just because of the finesse although that's cool. i think the main reason is that you can see the logic behind the placements (eg "this is obviously forecasting some t spins in the downstack" or "it's too greedy to go for a tspin, so the bot is playing safe and skimming/dsing". on the other hand, zzztoj is kind of opaque, and it just pulls downstacks out of hats.
since you wanted better human simulation for finesse, the thing that stood out to me the most, that cobra is doing (that humans don't), is soft dropping before dasing the piece. this is probably more efficient when it does it, but for humans it's too big brain to actually look for, when you can just use muscle memory to move the piece to the column you want it and use your brain for more important things like timing and stacking lol.

[@lettuce1626]

Not to be a downer but 0:35 isn't too impressive when compared to pro players
Ive seen bots do way crazier moves

[@BeCrazy_]

@@lettuce1626 that may be so, but etheryn were just stating when they were sure of cobra being a bot.
Although I already know it's a bot so I'm biased, the entire first game already looks too unhinged and RNG-filled to be a human confidently stacking with style. Just looks like something you do when you already have knowledge of many more pieces ahead, which only a bot can access and use.
Actually, I am curious about Cobra's Garbage travel time knowledge since it seems like it incorrectly judged the wrong timing when trying to Z spin instead of choosing the safe option of S-skim Quad. Does look like a human fault huh?

[@DarkArc_]

I wanna see how cz would do against cobra considering it is very good at counterattacking

[@johnbarnes7485]

9:54 the bot sensed icly is nearly top of board and created an impromptu attack wow!

[@madkiwi9358]

LMAO IT HAPPENED
on icly's latest stream i commented "icly vs cobra when"

[@cx68000]

where does he stream?

[@madkiwi9358]

@@cx68000 his channel?

[@cx68000]

@@madkiwi9358 does he have a twitch channel?

[@madkiwi9358]

@@cx68000 youtube "diao" or "icly"

[@carlossaliba3478]

7:46 sheesh that linespin was nasty

[@gnochhuos645]

Icly bot needs a new update now. Diao pls fix it

[@Ketpain]

when can the community get their hands on cobra? I'd like to play it, i have also have a spare pc at home that i don't use, rtx 2080 and i7 7700k

[@lettuce1626]

I think what makes this bot stand out is its impressive survival

[@milmuktetris]

5:57 particle lasts forever

[@temisuzuame]

damn the insanity... gosh

[@gashn]

how to play with him

[@aefad]

This cobra guy is pretty good

[@abeh3182]

How to join private lobbies?

[@pcx-pd5hf]

why Cobra knows the exact location of the upcoming garbage hole.

[@BeCrazy_]

just more skill than zzztoj

[@KaisUW]

Garbage holes will always be the same across both players. Eg, if icly recieves a spike in the 4th column at the start of the game, the first garbage hole that cobra receives will be in the 4th column also. The first garbage hole for icly will match the first garbage hole for cobra so on so forth

[@BeCrazy_]

@@KaisUW Rather than screen watching or some sort, I actually think the bot gets the info straight from the game like how you get it to have depth 10.

[@KaisUW]

@@BeCrazy_ probably tbh, I was just explaining a piece of obscure tech

[@amongus-ts1zz]

i thought 9:00 was a misdrop from the bot...

[@jasonrong4037]

what happen to 10pps cobra

[@lettuce1626]

What is Cobra's survival

[@Alex-we9hl]

jesusssssss ok opyu

[@NuuweiLol]

bot vs bot is very crazy

[@Zakaarus]

5:32 triple 180 spin?? Wtf

[@BeCrazy_]

The only thing missing from the bot is more extensive Macro knowledge and when to tank/cancel hmm

[@johnbarnes7485]

what is macro? im new to tetrio

[@BeCrazy_]

@@johnbarnes7485 Advanced tricks and techniques used to control garbage exchanges in order to gain an advantage over opponent.
A simple example could be to set up big attacks and wait to tank the opponent's clean garb then send everything at once into a 20-30 spike sth.
Beginners don't have the requisite skills for stacking to even think about garbage exchanges, so don't think about it too much. And sometimes it hardly matters to up your Macro anyway.

[@Opyuuu]

it has macro in the sense of tanking for more resource, but not tanking cuz opponent vulnerable

[@TFWPLSSUB]

​@@BeCrazy_the second part is that the bot doesn't tank to avoid cancelling in order to kill

[@TFWPLSSUB]

​@@johnbarnes7485more specific explanation is cancel incoming garbage when you're high up, tank clean garbage for resources(more ds=more attack), and tank garbage so opponent can't cancel etc. instead of only your own board(micro) also focus on garbage and even opponent's board
Note that this is just an explanation and you should learn to stack until maybe U or X. It does help you win if you learn it in lower ranks(than what I said) but stacking is more important and is harder to learn at higher ranks

[@miyabeee000]

this bot looks like human.

[@Lylcaruis]

wow

[@nyukjustacommenter857]

**Joke about how Cobra is the human and Diao is the bot**

[@Lylcaruis]

also is this cobra the older one or the cobrat from new upgrades video

[@Opyuuu]

read the description

[@Lylcaruis]

@@Opyuuuyea i did after i said that sry lmao

[@tearsjins]

코브라 대박

[@aadropx1411]

Nice b2b stack

[@gizer-bs1476]

Its just cz with extra steps

[@yamp4]

I’ve heard of cobra before but surely this diao guy has to be a bot

[@JohnathanWhitehorn]

so i need to play like bot lol

[@Joanyan]

wow even with lower pps than toj it beats icly