Do you think PS5 Pro offer a good upgrade? What are your thoughts on PSSR not being up to date at launch? Are you excited for the future of PSSR on the PS5 Pro?
For this price? Nope. CPU is slightly upgraded (if devs are willing to sacrifice the GPU power) so its problematic. And that's why PS5 isnt going to be a magic 60fps where the base PS5 can't. I would rather buy a 1000 USD PC that can do many things more. But it doesnt mean that Xbox Series X price looks reasonable now. It doesnt at all.
Dee we have to remember, PSSR is a brand new piece of tech, NONE of these games were developed with it in mind. So applying it to games now, its bound to have some problems!
@@blusterya6540 lmao was the xbox series x great out the box? No it had issues just like any other launch. lmao I own all and its much better console. hey keep cope alive
@DeeBatch What has happened to you? I have a PS5 Pro and I'm not acting like a rabid fanboy because some of the games look like sh*t. Silent Hill 2 being the worst example in performance mode. According to DF, it was updated with PSSR, which shocked me. It looked so bad I thought it wasn't enhanced. The Horizon games have impressed me most and they don't use PSSR. Just take it down a notch, mate. You really don't need to be so defensive - it's coming across as cringe. Even Gaz is clowning you. I hope we don't get this performance from you when the next Xbox launches. Just enjoy the games, man. I have some issues with my PS5 Pro, but I remain hopeful upcoming games will better exploit the hardware. I get the feeling some of these updates are rushed. There's no need to get your knickers in a twist.
PlayStation 5 Pro Bad PSSR Implementation in Certain Games Is Caused by Older Version of the Upscaler; Future Batches of Supported Games Will Look Much Better
@@vincevirtua did you not listen to the video? Some developers can’t update their games to the latest version of PSSR if they built their game on UE4 using the SDK: 9 or below. It’s only if they built their game using the STK: 10 or above that they can. Why do you think developers can’t just add PSSR to any game they want? There are development kit limitations .
@@-Old-School-Gamer Cod Black Ops 6 is suffering from graphical glitches due to pssr. What about that. What about Dragons Dogma 2 having issues when ray tracing is turned on due to pssr. I agree with Dee batch. It's a new upscaler so things will get better over time.
@@PantherCrane What are you talking about. Bs what. Pssr is having issues atm and it makes sense that some games are using older versions of pssr. Dlss and Fsr had issues in the beginning also. When devs use newer versions of pssr the same issues will not be an issue. Shouldn't be,
I don't believe anyone WANTS this to fail. As consumers, we strive for the best deal. The bottom line is that no one would recommend the average person to spend the extra $300+ for a minimal upgrade. Touting AI machine learning is marketer speak. You're not currently receiving any benefit from that, and a promise of 6 months later doesn't guarantee a constant patch from every developer. Plus, these patches wouldn't be fully tested. We, as the consumers, are playing beta testers. Will they run? Sure, but anyone who's coded will tell you that different bugs will appear with every change of the code. Having a constant "learning" doesn’t necessarily mean that it's learning correctly and that it's never satisfied with the current model. It's still up to each developer to review and implement changes, and how many will do that when the revenue is stagnant from the game sales? Never buy a product based on what it could be, base it on its current status. Definitely not hating. If I had the liquidity, I'd buy one just because I enjoy the best possible experience. However, if I had nothing, the ps5 base would be a much better deal.
Ps4 pro upgrade Ps5 pro upg Cpu 31%☝️ 10%☝️ Gpu 130%☝️ 45% (+checkerboard (+ PSSR rendering ) 300tops ML) Ram 8gb (+ 1gb) 16gb (+2gb) Bandwidth 25%☝️ 25%☝️ Storage 500gb->1tb 1tb-->2tb Disk drive remains ✅️ cut❌️ Intended target 4k res fidelity mode Use case higher image @60fps quality Price $400. $700. Adjusted for Inflation $504. Which was the better upgrade! Consoles are supposed to represent value, does this console provide that?🤔
You forgot to mention that all the gpu power of the ps4 pro was bottlenecked by the 8 gigs of ram and 218 ghz ram that didn't allow it to do native 4k in most games. The gpu was capable to trade blows with the One X but couldn't because of the ram and bandwidth. That's why the one x had 336 gb per second bandwidth with 12 gigs of ram. So your little upgrade chart is not a good way to judge the upgrade. Ps4 pro failed at doing native 4k- the gpu was gimped so the upgrade was not as significant as the numbers suggest. Ps5 pro has plenty of ram for 4k.
It's a ps5 with the power of the Xbox one x gpu added onto it with a little machine learning. Really, it's only a 25 percent uplift in performance over the base console, and that number keeps diminishing because it still will not be able to fully do 60 fps in fidelity mode across all games. I really hope I eat those words because I want it to become so good that the machines performance makes me want to buy it, but it's a little far from that right now. The ps5 is more than powerful enough for now, and it's running all games better than the pro is.
This is a big nothingburger. That said, PS5 Pro is proof that Console gaming has become PC Gaming Lite. Tons of settings, FPS counters, and now major hardware patches. The days of "Set it and forget it" console gaming seems to be going away.
I really don't know what or how anyone expected anything else. They upgraded the GPU and kept the same CPU which for AI upscaling technology requires more CPU uplift to help the GPU. If you have the same old starved outdated CPU and a very slightly upgraded GPU then I am not sure how everyone keeps expecting this thing to be a massive difference. Consoles are always behind on technology and they still are some things never change and this seems like one of them.
I'm not worried about the issues. If the issues were across all games, then it would be a valid argument, but the fact its a couple of games instantly points towards a software issue, which has been confirmed with an older version of pssr. All the people who jumped on it should be embarrassed with their lack of critical thinking. Not only am enjoying my pro, but im also now able to enjoy my psvr2 , since moving it with my base ps5 upstairs where there is more room amd i dont run the risk of taking out my mrs or kids as im playing it.
Loving my Pro, seeing big improvements across the board for me. Can't wait for GTA6 now. Knowing that I will be playing it on the latest and greatest PS5 Pro and not my older Launch PS5.
Gamers want the ps5 pro to fail and is being hate and bombarded like no other console in history. Not even the Xbox 360 with the ring of dead was bombarded like this and all is in the price. People that don’t even have the console are making videos about how bad this console is, that sony should never created this console, that is a scam,sony think is APPLE. Even me are getting confused and yes I have the ps5 pro. Sadly I can’t even find the optical disc drive and I’m just playing black myth wukong new game plus 4. I wish I can say something about it having my own opinion but I can’t.
I agree with you. I have a PS 5 Pro with disc drive paired with Samsung S95D OLED. You can tell the difference between base PS 5 & Pro. I also own a highend pc with 4090 as well. I think people are bashing because most can’t get it and mad at the price. I’m an enthusiast gamer, once developers create games from the ground up that will utilize pssr & machine learning, we will see the difference. I bet if the price was lower there would be no negative comments from the haters lol.
The Pro is doing great by me. Once the console matures the games will look and run amazing. Sadly a certain old console won't be able to say the same. I mean hell it's already struggling with Stalker 2.
@@Onikirimaru231 matures lmao it’s a midgen refresh Sony just getting you guys primed up for the next PlayStation LMAO you ponies are warped 🤣 it’s Not even on par with a 4070 calm down kid
I think some folks had unreasonable expectations. The bottom line is that we have seen the base PS5 run games like Spider man 2 and HZ:FW at high res, RT, and high fps output. So it all boils down to, did the devs do their job right, or was it a rushed job, or does the PlayStation suck? I think it's on the devs at this point.
Hey Dee hope you are doing well. Have you tried turning off the PS4 filter option when running these one off games? Just wondering if it’s doing something it shouldn’t be. I totally agree with you on PSSR it will get better. Devs don’t help either. Ty
Commenting on the ResetERA forums in a thread discussing the disappointing Star Wars Jedi: Survivor PS5 Pro update, a developer going by the name of Koralsky commented on the poor image quality produced by PSSR in certain titles, revealing that the difference in image quality between different games is caused by the different versions of the upscaler used. In regard to the latest entry in the Respawn series, the developer confirmed the game is using SDK 9, being an Unreal Engine 4 game, so the team couldn't implement the latest up-to-date version of the upscaler that requires SDK 10 or higher, and has possibly used the very first version, hence the bad image quality.
Just get the regular PS five digital, it was on sale for $379 or something, it’s just as good as the PS five pro as long as you don’t care about every minor little graphical improve improvement.
I've had one about a week and played a variety of different games, most of which carry the PS5 pro enhanced play ball and I can honestly say I've had no issues. Gran Turismo 7 runs absolutely stunning and the patch hasn't even been released yet. We are talking about a console that's been out near weeks and comparing it against gaming computers which is ridiculous. I have to agree with a lot of comments in saying that those who don't like the new PS5 pro are simply either those who are gaming PC fanatics or those with PS5 base consoles who simply can't afford the new model and hate it on that basis. In terms of a completely unbiased view because I have a gaming PC the base PS5 and the new Pro, I can honestly recommend the upgrade.
Almost every new console has issues at launch. I think the best advice would be to wait until after Christmas and see what the results are in the new year in terms of new game patches etc before taking the plunge if you're unsure. Either way all these issues are going to be patched at some stage or other
I’m excited to see how these new games releasing early next year perform on the pro. One game I’m really looking forward to is Kingdom Come Deliverance. It’s the new games where I expect it to really shine.
It's a ps5 with the power of the Xbox one x gpu added onto it with a little machine learning. Really, it's only a 25 percent uplift in performance over the base console, and that number keeps diminishing because it still will not be able to full do 60 fps in fidelity mode across all games. I really hope I eat those words because I want it to become so good that the machines performance makes me want to buy it, but it's a little far from that right now. The ps5 is more than powerful enough for now, and it's running all games better than the pro is.
what i do wish they would let us do is choose between PSSR of FSR or TAA like in god of war so if PSSR isn't working right at the moment we could choose something else for now.
Here we go again! Dee getting defensive over PS5 Pro. My biggest issue using it was Silent Hill 2. According to Digital Foundry, it has been updated with PSSR. In performance mode, it looks terrible. Dee, you do realise even Gaz is clowning you? Just take it down a notch. You can dicuss the pros and cons of PS5 Pro without going into rabid fanboy mode.
I'm really excited to see what Monster Hunter Wilds is going to look like and how it will perform. I'm excited to see what Dynasty Warriors Origins is going to bring to the table with its enemy density on screen compared to the base PS5. I just started Stellar Blade two weekends ago and it looks amazing and plays amazing. I took a break to wait for the Nier Automata dlc.
People that purchased a ps5 pro want attention so badly . They post it online like a badge of honor . Sorry to say its mid . Id wait to the ps6 to upgrade , i prolly will wait like 2 years after launch .
The devs shouldn't have released pro updates that looked like Jedi Survivor/Silent Hill 2. Did they not look at the image before release. I agree PSSR will improve but I'm concerned that devs won't continue to update their old versions of PSSR which may leave certain games looking much worse forever on the system. PS I thought PSSR update is just a quick drop in of the updated code like with DLSS and FSR. Why is it taking so long to fix these games. It's been a week.
Getting my PS5 pro on the 27th going to use the disc drive and stand from my PS5 slim on the pro then sell my PS5 slim to a buddy of mine he is cool with it not having a disc drive and he buying it for $300.
Everyone that leaves a negative comment on ps5 pro has never played on one and if they have, they are in denial of not wanting it over their base console anymore.
Everybody needs to calm the hell down. Every piece of hardware, console, PC or software has its issues. Most of rhe games dont have theses issues. The AI will only get better. Also, how many years and how many games have come out that haven't been properly optimsed by a developer. This has always been the case with some games and always will be and that's not going to change in the future.
I think the real joke is paying 700$ for more power and still having to wait on devs to utilize that power on older games ,"The PS5 pro....just wait" 😂
Dee Batch: This will be the most advance tech on the market mon. The pssr mon, there’s nothing like it ! Tech Guys : Pssr is really bad Dee Batch: The Tools mon ! they aren’t utilizing the tooolllllssss 😂
you really are slow eh. Did xbox series x have issue at launch? it did and people were wondering why ps5 games were running better. 4 years later problems are fixed on series x. however ps5 games still running better on the weaker ps5 lol
The ps5 pro is a con job. This entire console performance hinges on Pssr. Which itself is seemingly limited by sub 1080p resolution. When most ue 5 games end up on current gen consoles. The gpu is also not powerful enough to push more features like RT and double the framerate. When even the cpu is only 10% higher when the gpu is downclocked. You end up with a 4k 30 Alan wake 2 with RT settings lower than the PC lowest settings!😬
Notice how u went to alan wake 2 but didn't point out f1 24 spiderman 2 ratchet and clank dragons dogma 2. Uve been hating on playstation every chance u get
All future consoles are going to lean heavily on upscaling ai solutions. They can't afford to just keep throwing transistors at these things as they get diminishing returns. PC gaming leans heavily on dlss. Work smarter not harder. The next xbox is going to lean heavily on ai. Get used to it.
@philbosh03 I used Alan wake 2 because it is a ps5 enhanced title. That was advertised by Sony and uses pssr. You advertised 2 to 3 times RT performance and get upscaled 4k 30 with rt settings lower than the pc lowest settings with performance issues. Bruh, that's an L! "The bottom line here is that on PS5 Pro, Dragon's Dogma 2 runs better than it ever has on the base PS5, and you get to customise your graphical settings to suit your needs. But at the same time, performance is still far from perfect, and PSSR throws up some dodgy image-related issues." Push Square Dragons dogma is still not 60fps locked, ff7 rebirth upgrade looks even more pronounced thats great. But its like that because Square used like fsr 1.0 upscale on rebirth going to pssr from that will be huge. But besides that no huge jump. Even f1 24 was native 4k, 1800p. The ps5 pro takes it down to 1080p native to add RT and upscale to around 4k. That's not a crazy upgrade. Sony should have done more!
@DeeBatch nah bro I'm on PC, the only one who's making excuses for Sony is you. All that crap you talk that about ps5 pro being like a "4070" and is not even close to that. Keep capping my boy.🤣🤣🤣
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Do you think PS5 Pro offer a good upgrade? What are your thoughts on PSSR not being up to date at launch? Are you excited for the future of PSSR on the PS5 Pro?
For this price? Nope. CPU is slightly upgraded (if devs are willing to sacrifice the GPU power) so its problematic. And that's why PS5 isnt going to be a magic 60fps where the base PS5 can't. I would rather buy a 1000 USD PC that can do many things more. But it doesnt mean that Xbox Series X price looks reasonable now. It doesnt at all.
Dee we have to remember, PSSR is a brand new piece of tech, NONE of these games were developed with it in mind. So applying it to games now, its bound to have some problems!
Poor Dee....the way you can tell a PONIE they start making excuses for Sony inconsistencies. STOP IT DEE😢 $700 it should run GREAT out of the box
@@blusterya6540 lmao was the xbox series x great out the box? No it had issues just like any other launch. lmao I own all and its much better console. hey keep cope alive
@DeeBatch What has happened to you? I have a PS5 Pro and I'm not acting like a rabid fanboy because some of the games look like sh*t. Silent Hill 2 being the worst example in performance mode. According to DF, it was updated with PSSR, which shocked me. It looked so bad I thought it wasn't enhanced. The Horizon games have impressed me most and they don't use PSSR.
Just take it down a notch, mate. You really don't need to be so defensive - it's coming across as cringe. Even Gaz is clowning you. I hope we don't get this performance from you when the next Xbox launches. Just enjoy the games, man. I have some issues with my PS5 Pro, but I remain hopeful upcoming games will better exploit the hardware. I get the feeling some of these updates are rushed. There's no need to get your knickers in a twist.
Loving my Pro so far. Playing BO6, TLOU and of course Apex and Fortnite.
No way I bought mine to use it as a toaster. Maybe I should play games on it too 🤔
@nino: Bruv!!! Thing this thing is fire bruv!!!! It’s hella dooe
PlayStation 5 Pro Bad PSSR Implementation in Certain Games Is Caused by Older Version of the Upscaler; Future Batches of Supported Games Will Look Much Better
great, how about patches for current batches?
@@vincevirtua did you not listen to the video?
Some developers can’t update their games to the latest version of PSSR if they built their game on UE4 using the SDK: 9 or below.
It’s only if they built their game using the STK: 10 or above that they can.
Why do you think developers can’t just add PSSR to any game they want?
There are development kit limitations .
@@-Old-School-Gamer Cod Black Ops 6 is suffering from graphical glitches due to pssr. What about that. What about Dragons Dogma 2 having issues when ray tracing is turned on due to pssr. I agree with Dee batch. It's a new upscaler so things will get better over time.
BS!
@@PantherCrane What are you talking about. Bs what. Pssr is having issues atm and it makes sense that some games are using older versions of pssr. Dlss and Fsr had issues in the beginning also. When devs use newer versions of pssr the same issues will not be an issue. Shouldn't be,
I don't believe anyone WANTS this to fail. As consumers, we strive for the best deal. The bottom line is that no one would recommend the average person to spend the extra $300+ for a minimal upgrade. Touting AI machine learning is marketer speak. You're not currently receiving any benefit from that, and a promise of 6 months later doesn't guarantee a constant patch from every developer. Plus, these patches wouldn't be fully tested. We, as the consumers, are playing beta testers. Will they run? Sure, but anyone who's coded will tell you that different bugs will appear with every change of the code. Having a constant "learning" doesn’t necessarily mean that it's learning correctly and that it's never satisfied with the current model. It's still up to each developer to review and implement changes, and how many will do that when the revenue is stagnant from the game sales? Never buy a product based on what it could be, base it on its current status. Definitely not hating. If I had the liquidity, I'd buy one just because I enjoy the best possible experience. However, if I had nothing, the ps5 base would be a much better deal.
Ps4 pro upgrade Ps5 pro upg
Cpu 31%☝️ 10%☝️
Gpu 130%☝️ 45%
(+checkerboard (+ PSSR
rendering ) 300tops ML)
Ram 8gb (+ 1gb) 16gb (+2gb)
Bandwidth 25%☝️ 25%☝️
Storage 500gb->1tb 1tb-->2tb
Disk drive remains ✅️ cut❌️
Intended target 4k res fidelity mode
Use case higher image @60fps
quality
Price $400. $700.
Adjusted for
Inflation $504.
Which was the better upgrade! Consoles are supposed to represent value, does this console provide that?🤔
Pro does 8k
Put the Xbox specs up there but add the sales of all beside them...😊
You forgot to mention that all the gpu power of the ps4 pro was bottlenecked by the 8 gigs of ram and 218 ghz ram that didn't allow it to do native 4k in most games. The gpu was capable to trade blows with the One X but couldn't because of the ram and bandwidth. That's why the one x had 336 gb per second bandwidth with 12 gigs of ram. So your little upgrade chart is not a good way to judge the upgrade. Ps4 pro failed at doing native 4k- the gpu was gimped so the upgrade was not as significant as the numbers suggest. Ps5 pro has plenty of ram for 4k.
It's a ps5 with the power of the Xbox one x gpu added onto it with a little machine learning. Really, it's only a 25 percent uplift in performance over the base console, and that number keeps diminishing because it still will not be able to fully do 60 fps in fidelity mode across all games. I really hope I eat those words because I want it to become so good that the machines performance makes me want to buy it, but it's a little far from that right now. The ps5 is more than powerful enough for now, and it's running all games better than the pro is.
@@C0smicr3aper keep cryin bot the pro is way more powerful than shyte box the original ps5 even outperforms it 😂🤣.
This is a big nothingburger. That said, PS5 Pro is proof that Console gaming has become PC Gaming Lite. Tons of settings, FPS counters, and now major hardware patches. The days of "Set it and forget it" console gaming seems to be going away.
Of course they need to update PSSR. remember its new tech for Sony. So it needs fine tuning and adjustment.
I wrote PRO on my PS5...now I got a PS5 Pro and I only spent $499 🤔
*taps temple* smart man.
You literally wrote this on every pro video I came across
@@Hollow_762 i know right , seen the comment so many times just looking for some attention , how sad.
so childish
Jedi Survivor & Silent Hill already announced their working on patches!
They really need to work on silent hill 2 is a disaster on the pro
Really where sh2 announced it?
@@marlonevos5602 it’s on X or google
I really don't know what or how anyone expected anything else. They upgraded the GPU and kept the same CPU which for AI upscaling technology requires more CPU uplift to help the GPU. If you have the same old starved outdated CPU and a very slightly upgraded GPU then I am not sure how everyone keeps expecting this thing to be a massive difference. Consoles are always behind on technology and they still are some things never change and this seems like one of them.
Seems like Sony suffers from the same problem dlss did at start
I'm not worried about the issues. If the issues were across all games, then it would be a valid argument, but the fact its a couple of games instantly points towards a software issue, which has been confirmed with an older version of pssr.
All the people who jumped on it should be embarrassed with their lack of critical thinking.
Not only am enjoying my pro, but im also now able to enjoy my psvr2 , since moving it with my base ps5 upstairs where there is more room amd i dont run the risk of taking out my mrs or kids as im playing it.
Loving my Pro, seeing big improvements across the board for me. Can't wait for GTA6 now. Knowing that I will be playing it on the latest and greatest PS5 Pro and not my older Launch PS5.
Gamers want the ps5 pro to fail and is being hate and bombarded like no other console in history. Not even the Xbox 360 with the ring of dead was bombarded like this and all is in the price. People that don’t even have the console are making videos about how bad this console is, that sony should never created this console, that is a scam,sony think is APPLE. Even me are getting confused and yes I have the ps5 pro. Sadly I can’t even find the optical disc drive and I’m just playing black myth wukong new game plus 4. I wish I can say something about it having my own opinion but I can’t.
Real gamers have PCs.
U have Ps5 pro? Do u see difference when u play games on 864p? Probably not 😂😂
Ps5 pro is overclocking Ps5.
@@nelAjamZ yes I know that. The cpu is overclocked
I agree with you. I have a PS 5 Pro with disc drive paired with Samsung S95D OLED. You can tell the difference between base PS 5 & Pro. I also own a highend pc with 4090 as well. I think people are bashing because most can’t get it and mad at the price. I’m an enthusiast gamer, once developers create games from the ground up that will utilize pssr & machine learning, we will see the difference. I bet if the price was lower there would be no negative comments from the haters lol.
It is hated because it’s expensive and not everyone can have one which is fine with me you get what you pay for.
The Pro is doing great by me. Once the console matures the games will look and run amazing. Sadly a certain old console won't be able to say the same. I mean hell it's already struggling with Stalker 2.
@@Onikirimaru231 matures lmao it’s a midgen refresh Sony just getting you guys primed up for the next PlayStation LMAO you ponies are warped 🤣 it’s Not even on par with a 4070 calm down kid
Loved the back and forth with jez on rand al thor poscast
Huge respect to all BETA TESTERS '
SOME HAVE TO BE'
I'M ONE OF THOOSE WHO ARE WAITING FOR THE BUGS TO BE IRONED OUT.
I think some folks had unreasonable expectations. The bottom line is that we have seen the base PS5 run games like Spider man 2 and HZ:FW at high res, RT, and high fps output. So it all boils down to, did the devs do their job right, or was it a rushed job, or does the PlayStation suck? I think it's on the devs at this point.
Hey Dee hope you are doing well. Have you tried turning off the PS4 filter option when running these one off games? Just wondering if it’s doing something it shouldn’t be. I totally agree with you on PSSR it will get better. Devs don’t help either. Ty
good idea will try it
PSSR was probably like a more polished beta version. A base to go off from for the PS6
Commenting on the ResetERA forums in a thread discussing the disappointing Star Wars Jedi: Survivor PS5 Pro update, a developer going by the name of Koralsky commented on the poor image quality produced by PSSR in certain titles, revealing that the difference in image quality between different games is caused by the different versions of the upscaler used. In regard to the latest entry in the Respawn series, the developer confirmed the game is using SDK 9, being an Unreal Engine 4 game, so the team couldn't implement the latest up-to-date version of the upscaler that requires SDK 10 or higher, and has possibly used the very first version, hence the bad image quality.
Just get the regular PS five digital, it was on sale for $379 or something, it’s just as good as the PS five pro as long as you don’t care about every minor little graphical improve improvement.
So you are paying 800 bucks to be bets testers 😂😂 also alot of devs are lazy and even when fsr 3.1 is out there they still using fsr 2😂😂
I've had one about a week and played a variety of different games, most of which carry the PS5 pro enhanced play ball and I can honestly say I've had no issues. Gran Turismo 7 runs absolutely stunning and the patch hasn't even been released yet. We are talking about a console that's been out near weeks and comparing it against gaming computers which is ridiculous. I have to agree with a lot of comments in saying that those who don't like the new PS5 pro are simply either those who are gaming PC fanatics or those with PS5 base consoles who simply can't afford the new model and hate it on that basis. In terms of a completely unbiased view because I have a gaming PC the base PS5 and the new Pro, I can honestly recommend the upgrade.
Almost every new console has issues at launch. I think the best advice would be to wait until after Christmas and see what the results are in the new year in terms of new game patches etc before taking the plunge if you're unsure. Either way all these issues are going to be patched at some stage or other
I’m excited to see how these new games releasing early next year perform on the pro. One game I’m really looking forward to is Kingdom Come Deliverance. It’s the new games where I expect it to really shine.
It's a ps5 with the power of the Xbox one x gpu added onto it with a little machine learning. Really, it's only a 25 percent uplift in performance over the base console, and that number keeps diminishing because it still will not be able to full do 60 fps in fidelity mode across all games. I really hope I eat those words because I want it to become so good that the machines performance makes me want to buy it, but it's a little far from that right now. The ps5 is more than powerful enough for now, and it's running all games better than the pro is.
keep coping only so much longer you can lol
internal capture function of ps5 pro has increased/crushed black levels. something else i've noticed that i've only seen one person address on reddit.
what i do wish they would let us do is choose between PSSR of FSR or TAA like in god of war so if PSSR isn't working right at the moment we could choose something else for now.
I thought about buying a PS5 Pro, but I'm not really seeing the point right now. I think I'll revisit the idea when GTA 6 comes out.
Here we go again! Dee getting defensive over PS5 Pro. My biggest issue using it was Silent Hill 2. According to Digital Foundry, it has been updated with PSSR. In performance mode, it looks terrible.
Dee, you do realise even Gaz is clowning you? Just take it down a notch. You can dicuss the pros and cons of PS5 Pro without going into rabid fanboy mode.
Amen, thank you for explaining. I didn't realise how DLSS, XESS and PSSR worked. I get my PS5 today, and so looking forward to it.
Thank you
Glad I could help!
Dee: “And I hope developers figure this out and stop being lazy.
Now, I don’t want to call them lazy”
😂🤣🤣
I'm really excited to see what Monster Hunter Wilds is going to look like and how it will perform.
I'm excited to see what Dynasty Warriors Origins is going to bring to the table with its enemy density on screen compared to the base PS5.
I just started Stellar Blade two weekends ago and it looks amazing and plays amazing. I took a break to wait for the Nier Automata dlc.
I don’t understand, I don’t have any issues. Probably people have the wrong TV settings like auto color / image correction/ stability etc. ?
A 4090 costs more than the PS 5 Pro, should not be compared in any way shape or form.
People that purchased a ps5 pro want attention so badly . They post it online like a badge of honor . Sorry to say its mid . Id wait to the ps6 to upgrade , i prolly will wait like 2 years after launch .
The devs shouldn't have released pro updates that looked like Jedi Survivor/Silent Hill 2. Did they not look at the image before release. I agree PSSR will improve but I'm concerned that devs won't continue to update their old versions of PSSR which may leave certain games looking much worse forever on the system. PS I thought PSSR update is just a quick drop in of the updated code like with DLSS and FSR. Why is it taking so long to fix these games. It's been a week.
Getting my PS5 pro on the 27th going to use the disc drive and stand from my PS5 slim on the pro then sell my PS5 slim to a buddy of mine he is cool with it not having a disc drive and he buying it for $300.
Gettin my new 2000 euro pc to replace the old one from last year ...240 fps guarantee..
@@Thenoob3336 that's nice don't really care though 😊
Everyone that leaves a negative comment on ps5 pro has never played on one and if they have, they are in denial of not wanting it over their base console anymore.
you sound like a simp
Agreed
Facts
you sound like a hater on cope lol
@@Dead__pool6969 gargle gargle
There’s another in-depth video talking about FSR and PSSR by Daniel Owen
Everybody needs to calm the hell down. Every piece of hardware, console, PC or software has its issues.
Most of rhe games dont have theses issues. The AI will only get better. Also, how many years and how many games have come out that haven't been properly optimsed by a developer.
This has always been the case with some games and always will be and that's not going to change in the future.
Console has been about for about 2 weeks and everyone expects it to be perfect…. Give it a bit of time damn..
I think the real joke is paying 700$ for more power and still having to wait on devs to utilize that power on older games ,"The PS5 pro....just wait" 😂
its been out 1 week lol. Keep cope alive bro
@DeeBatch come on brotha you know I got you there lol, go play RD2 at 60 fps .... Oh wait 😂
The pro has graphics not possible on any Xbox and 60 percent of people pcs
😂
😂😂😂😂 60% of pc LMFAO 🛑
@@Mr_CopaceticGamer😂😂😂closer to 80%
How many times can you repeat the same information over and over? Sounds like a high schooler writing his essay the night before lol
Ps2 is #1
Pssr 2.0 will rival dlss 3.8
Dee Batch: This will be the most advance tech on the market mon. The pssr mon, there’s nothing like it !
Tech Guys : Pssr is really bad
Dee Batch: The Tools mon ! they aren’t utilizing the tooolllllssss 😂
you really are slow eh. Did xbox series x have issue at launch? it did and people were wondering why ps5 games were running better. 4 years later problems are fixed on series x. however ps5 games still running better on the weaker ps5 lol
@ you a believer in sony who hasn’t delivered since early ps4 😂… sony don’t make technological leaps. wake up
@ i have a pro…. it’s what the ps5 was pose to be at launch
@ ps5 runs better ? what happen with warhammer ?
The ps5 pro is a con job.
This entire console performance hinges on Pssr.
Which itself is seemingly limited by sub 1080p resolution. When most ue 5 games end up on current gen consoles. The gpu is also not powerful enough to push more features like RT and double the framerate. When even the cpu is only 10% higher when the gpu is downclocked.
You end up with a 4k 30 Alan wake 2 with RT settings lower than the PC lowest settings!😬
Notice how u went to alan wake 2 but didn't point out f1 24 spiderman 2 ratchet and clank dragons dogma 2. Uve been hating on playstation every chance u get
Final Fantasy 🔥🔥🔥
You wish😂😂😂 That 600 dollar Xbox was the biggest. Let's be real now
All future consoles are going to lean heavily on upscaling ai solutions. They can't afford to just keep throwing transistors at these things as they get diminishing returns. PC gaming leans heavily on dlss. Work smarter not harder. The next xbox is going to lean heavily on ai. Get used to it.
@philbosh03 I used Alan wake 2 because it is a ps5 enhanced title. That was advertised by Sony and uses pssr.
You advertised 2 to 3 times RT performance and get upscaled 4k 30 with rt settings lower than the pc lowest settings with performance issues. Bruh, that's an L!
"The bottom line here is that on PS5 Pro, Dragon's Dogma 2 runs better than it ever has on the base PS5, and you get to customise your graphical settings to suit your needs. But at the same time, performance is still far from perfect, and PSSR throws up some dodgy image-related issues." Push Square
Dragons dogma is still not 60fps locked, ff7 rebirth upgrade looks even more pronounced thats great. But its like that because Square used like fsr 1.0 upscale on rebirth going to pssr from that will be huge. But besides that no huge jump. Even f1 24 was native 4k, 1800p. The ps5 pro takes it down to 1080p native to add RT and upscale to around 4k.
That's not a crazy upgrade.
Sony should have done more!
You are wrong about how ai works...
I love my pro I am so happy I sold my og ps5 😊it's a new console give it time let's not forget all the issues ps5 had at launch 😊😊
Yawn....1 update....for these "old games" they'll fix it...then Ver 2 will have them making up stuff.
Ok stop just stop these videos..its not the issues the console is having its the DEVS FROM THE GAMES THAT MAKE PATCHES or dont make them.
"it is normal"?
All that capping you did on X for nothing.😂😂
huh? lol bro console been out 1 week come back after 6 month. you will be crying as it whips your fav box.
@DeeBatch nah bro I'm on PC, the only one who's making excuses for Sony is you. All that crap you talk that about ps5 pro being like a "4070" and is not even close to that. Keep capping my boy.🤣🤣🤣
I'm not in love my pro ff7 rebirth has graphics on the pro not possible on any Xbox
So I guess it will be more powerful than next xbox.That comes out, we'll see, I doubt that
❤ Ps5 Pro ❤️
Really disappointed in the pro so far
You don't have the pro dude just stop
sure you are lol you're disappointed you don't have one.
@@DeeBatch😁💯✌️
@@DeeBatch hey i sent you my pro later on x after work you fool.
@@DeeBatch you think he is disappointed now wait till gta6 comes out
Hell yeah eat crow 🤡
😆😂🤣😂😆😂🤣 $850
lmao its much better than any other console lol cope
@ 👍🏼😆 much better 😆😂🤣 I’m good with the OG…
@@Mcfigg let me know how you feel when GTA 6 come out lol
@ haven’t played that game since GTA 2 😆😂🤣 not for me homie….like I said overpriced underpowered not impressed especially for $850 no sir.
PISSER!! LOL . Such dumb letters for Spny to use.
Better than Xbox with their series x and s lol whats the next Xbox going to be Xbox E.
Hmmm
Xbox s
Xbox E
Xbox x
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@@TheBoochi-j7bbut naw, it's m for mobile
@@TheBoochi-j7b what?..
It'd actually pssr
@@tristman8413yea. And when you say it, it's pisser. Just like you reading it on a license plate. Spells pisser.