Its funny that Lux lost her mind and all chatted all game for you doing to her what she has been doing to every other champion before Mel was a thing, literally long range poking and CCing out ranging most other supports and all adcs
The only real answer to Mel in mid or support I've found is Karma. Her shield and movespeed boost on her e helps negate Mel's q dmg a lot and gets you out of the way of her e more often than not. Just bait out mel's w and poke her down with karma q/ult+q spam. Shield when needed. Not foolproof, but the most survivable of any champion I've seen so far.
I hope it doesnt take them too long to ad Mel to wild rift. I am a support main, who enjoys mages, my first main was Seraphine, and I feel Mel might be a nice champ for me to play
one time i had a kog maw adc, but i kept getting all the kills, i felt bad that i roamed early so he can soak up xp another was me and swain just bullying the enemy bot lane early game lmao with just my support item and his doran's
he cant impress his goofy fanbase by playing in diamond/master. Not good enough to go 12/1. I saw him raging in diamond with 30% winrate as pyke, struggling to win games.
How about a Vi support? She feels like she really belongs in the current season with her early game cheesiness, reliable engage, mobility, and overall scrappiness. Really undervalued off-meta support pick imo
Mel was a very dominant Support! Definitely worth taking! I still think her mid is better for the level advantage and her execute on clearing is less valuable as a support.
The thing is that her execute+damage can EASILY be tuned with numbers, but you can't nerf what her W does. You can give it a higher cooldown or make it do less damage etc, but you can never take back the fact that you can reflect any projectile ability. It's inherently permanently broken by design
@@i0kiVids the problem with her W, is that if the player doesn't know what all the enemy abilities do, and if they can be W'd, I feel like it will work against lower level Mels.
The hardest game i had with her were against fighters/assassins, like Akali, Yasuo, Yone ect. They easily dodge your q and your w is useless because they don't really have projectiles. Veigar and Viktor are good against her too. In botlane her biggest counters are healers. I destroyed a Mel by simply playing Soraka and spamming my w on the adc lmao, they can't execute
Vladimir, or anyone with insane healing/regen. Mel has high mana costs and high cooldowns. It's not possible to kill them alone as Mel. Like, at all. Good ol' Galio is always there, too. Also, anyone who can dive on her multiple times (getting on her even after she uses her W). Any tank. Etc etc. People are whining so much. She has plenty of counterplay.
It's amusing to see that a single champion can do more 'poke' than a Lux and Caitlyn in bot lane. It's just incredible how insane this champion is. As someone who likes playing Swain, she has destroyed my champion in the lane phase so many times.
As a lux main her W isn’t THAT bad, when throwing Q keep moving so when she pops W it doesn’t hit you. Which shouldn’t be hard since that sort of has to be done with other mages who have roots or hooks! Still Mel is an extremely strong champion
You can counter Nunu so hard with Mel. When he runs at you, you root hin with E which makes him lose the ball, which you then can reflect with your W. That way an AP Nunu basicaly oneshots himself and he is also CC'ed the whole time.
The vanguard thing happens sometimes, the other day the game suddenly stopped as "vanguard is updating" or something like emergency update and closed and since it was the last game of the night I didn't mind and just shut down the pc thinking if it's importantly updating it was for everyone, but no, next day I boot up the game and I had a penalization for AFK on that match
It's kind of a bummer that she's such a meme. I loved Arcane and enjoyed her character, and I was excited to main her for a while. Now it kind of feels disingenuous.
5:20 The execution speed of the q skill is very high and its clarity is zero. So you can escape from a Soraka q offer, you will see the lux q offer coming, you can even react to the veigar ultimate more easily. Instead of nerfing, it is necessary to design a logical character
riot have being doing it for years, releasing broken champs to make people buy them and their skins and after 1month just huge nerfs. i mean look at "rengar" that champion is nothing like what he was when he was introduced.
Hey man, I've been trying Thresh supp with mixed results. Hope there might be someone gameplay from tge best. p.s. I always ban mel in my games coz f her
I feel like the best way to keep Mel's W and have it not be Crazy OP is for it to only automatically hit targeted abilities. It could be that skillshots are still reflected, but in order to hit an enemy, you have to reflect it at the right angle and then there is also some counterplay. Kinda like how your reflected the snowball but Nunu didn't get hit.
Im not following that hype train. She is meh when you're not ahead after the nerfs. Was even a bit ahead on a game and couldn't kill an adc in one full combo. She has crazy good matchups and super bad ones. Especialy those where your W is useless. Yes it is crazy good against lux cuz you can walk up to her and she cannot do anything. But when you play against a sylas for example it is worthless. Also horrible when a hecarim just runs you down and you cannot do anything
Its funny that Lux lost her mind and all chatted all game for you doing to her what she has been doing to every other champion before Mel was a thing, literally long range poking and CCing out ranging most other supports and all adcs
Factsssssssssss
She did NOT like getting a taste of her own medicine
Say what you will about Lux, but Mel is the most ultra-bs champion since aoe gold card era TF lol
To be fair lux kit is not that strong, but Mel is literally no counter play
@@ludekwan7643 what about amumu?
That vanguard thing can happen, and when it does, just restart the game using the riot client, not the league launcher
Not only is the W amazing the threat of the W also makes enemy play really weird if it's up
Yep there are SO many spells that you just 100% cant use until Mel has used her W, its insane value even when NOT being cast
The only real answer to Mel in mid or support I've found is Karma. Her shield and movespeed boost on her e helps negate Mel's q dmg a lot and gets you out of the way of her e more often than not. Just bait out mel's w and poke her down with karma q/ult+q spam. Shield when needed. Not foolproof, but the most survivable of any champion I've seen so far.
Vanguard is practically riot games anti cheat system that glitches from time to time
I hope it doesnt take them too long to ad Mel to wild rift. I am a support main, who enjoys mages, my first main was Seraphine, and I feel Mel might be a nice champ for me to play
Speaking of ashe poke support. Full ap with the new boots and so oneshot targets now. Its so fun to play late game. Just a bit of a pain early
one time i had a kog maw adc, but i kept getting all the kills, i felt bad that i roamed early so he can soak up xp
another was me and swain just bullying the enemy bot lane early game lmao with just my support item and his doran's
We need the ranked climb with Mel supportttt
may i ask why you primarily make content in bronze - silver if you're gm?
I second this question
he cant impress his goofy fanbase by playing in diamond/master. Not good enough to go 12/1. I saw him raging in diamond with 30% winrate as pyke, struggling to win games.
How about a Vi support? She feels like she really belongs in the current season with her early game cheesiness, reliable engage, mobility, and overall scrappiness. Really undervalued off-meta support pick imo
Did Vanguard do that when it thinks someone is scripting?
I've never seen this message before -- usually if Vanguard detects a scripter in a live game it just ends the game for everyone.
@@i0kiVids That was weird.
Mel was a very dominant Support! Definitely worth taking! I still think her mid is better for the level advantage and her execute on clearing is less valuable as a support.
Support Mel is gonna be a whole problem
Did you give up on streams? Only posting on yt now 😢
Yeah I miss streams
people cannot complain about morgana anymore
If they intended Mel to be a support as her secondary role… why did they give her an execute? Kinda makes her a kill stealer or removes her passive
Do a ranked climb please. So far I've killed Caitllyn with her own ulti and stunned a Vayne with her own condemn.
They gonma change her reflect into her ult and give her a basic shield for w
I really wanted to see you try rylai Mel😢
Bro I called it since the reveal Karma Mel botlane gonna terrorize people
Two i0ki videos in one day???? You're spoiling us!
I'm honestly fine with her W, IO think it shouldn't be changed, her executes and her damage is completely broken.
The thing is that her execute+damage can EASILY be tuned with numbers, but you can't nerf what her W does. You can give it a higher cooldown or make it do less damage etc, but you can never take back the fact that you can reflect any projectile ability. It's inherently permanently broken by design
@@i0kiVids the problem with her W, is that if the player doesn't know what all the enemy abilities do, and if they can be W'd, I feel like it will work against lower level Mels.
Is the reflection with the same damage as the enemy champ at that time or does it still depend on your ap or ad?
Depends on ability level and ap
at max level it does 70% reflected and maybe an ap ratio
yes.
(both, it can easily do more than the original damage with enough AP)
Is there even a way to counter her right now? I’ve tried multiple legends in mid lane and nothing has worked very well
The hardest game i had with her were against fighters/assassins, like Akali, Yasuo, Yone ect. They easily dodge your q and your w is useless because they don't really have projectiles. Veigar and Viktor are good against her too. In botlane her biggest counters are healers. I destroyed a Mel by simply playing Soraka and spamming my w on the adc lmao, they can't execute
Vladimir, or anyone with insane healing/regen. Mel has high mana costs and high cooldowns. It's not possible to kill them alone as Mel. Like, at all. Good ol' Galio is always there, too. Also, anyone who can dive on her multiple times (getting on her even after she uses her W). Any tank. Etc etc. People are whining so much. She has plenty of counterplay.
MEL RANK CLIMB BEFORE SHE GETS NERFED PLSSS
If passive executes minions does it also execute jungle creeps?
Yes
Jungle Mel incoming 👀
Vaynes attack range was nerfed at one point cuz how op she was, could be the same for mel
Sir you need to have vanguard running smh
feels like it's the passive that makes her too good at pushing/ending fights
Yes feel the pain of vanguard deciding to randomly die for no reason at all
It's amusing to see that a single champion can do more 'poke' than a Lux and Caitlyn in bot lane. It's just incredible how insane this champion is. As someone who likes playing Swain, she has destroyed my champion in the lane phase so many times.
"ban mel idiots" 🤣
It may not be an optimal Mel build BUT could we see an apc Mel. Nasher, rage blade, runans, lucidity boots for q spam.
Poppy midlane when 🙏
As a lux main her W isn’t THAT bad, when throwing Q keep moving so when she pops W it doesn’t hit you. Which shouldn’t be hard since that sort of has to be done with other mages who have roots or hooks! Still Mel is an extremely strong champion
You can counter Nunu so hard with Mel. When he runs at you, you root hin with E which makes him lose the ball, which you then can reflect with your W. That way an AP Nunu basicaly oneshots himself and he is also CC'ed the whole time.
The vanguard thing happens sometimes, the other day the game suddenly stopped as "vanguard is updating" or something like emergency update and closed and since it was the last game of the night I didn't mind and just shut down the pc thinking if it's importantly updating it was for everyone, but no, next day I boot up the game and I had a penalization for AFK on that match
It's kind of a bummer that she's such a meme. I loved Arcane and enjoyed her character, and I was excited to main her for a while. Now it kind of feels disingenuous.
Mel should have been the character that turned into a literal god in the show
I play wild rift, and im a senna main. But im gonna be all over mel when she comes
Is malphite R a projectile?
no
would AS Mel be fun? poking to death with passive even faster
We want a bronze to challenger with Mel support 🥰
She was my adc, and I was a lux support and we stomp bot lane
Man this could be your new main
you only enjoy Mel when you're the one playing her - when on receiving end it's hell haha
I dont get how people say she is weak other youtubers think she is weak then goes 10/2 or something
5:20 The execution speed of the q skill is very high and its clarity is zero. So you can escape from a Soraka q offer, you will see the lux q offer coming, you can even react to the veigar ultimate more easily. Instead of nerfing, it is necessary to design a logical character
riot have being doing it for years, releasing broken champs to make people buy them and their skins and after 1month just huge nerfs. i mean look at "rengar" that champion is nothing like what he was when he was introduced.
Why run engage support when mel can say f you and engage you back with your own spell
Hey man, I've been trying Thresh supp with mixed results. Hope there might be someone gameplay from tge best.
p.s. I always ban mel in my games coz f her
Excuse me what? Did Mel just execute that baron at above smite range? 28:10
What the fuck.
HERE IT IS!
Lunar Revel? No, it's a Vanguard event!
this is ashe support
Is it safe to say Mel is an upgraded version of Lux?
That lux deserved way worse than what she got, playing that brainrot along with caitlyn and getting tilted. "Get a life" like she said.
wow, Vanguard is soooo good ....
not the vanguard
Build Bloodletters
I feel like the best way to keep Mel's W and have it not be Crazy OP is for it to only automatically hit targeted abilities. It could be that skillshots are still reflected, but in order to hit an enemy, you have to reflect it at the right angle and then there is also some counterplay. Kinda like how your reflected the snowball but Nunu didn't get hit.
Proof that ioki cheats. Finally, caught in the act!
they finally got me
Swain support please
Im not following that hype train. She is meh when you're not ahead after the nerfs. Was even a bit ahead on a game and couldn't kill an adc in one full combo. She has crazy good matchups and super bad ones. Especialy those where your W is useless. Yes it is crazy good against lux cuz you can walk up to her and she cannot do anything. But when you play against a sylas for example it is worthless. Also horrible when a hecarim just runs you down and you cannot do anything
a little biased at end there Ioki, claiming you have 47k then say that closest one was 25.4, you had 46.4, not 47, be consistent man
riot really cant release a good champ can they
As cool as she is, I really do not like her ult it makes the game too easy
nothing broken to see here... poeple need to adapt to a new class.
typical Ioki flexing in low elo for his fanbase and when it comes to above diamond games he has 30% winrate.
Finally 🫰