Thanks for the video! It would be interesting to see some GensAce/Tattu testing. In my experience and testing they offer consistently good performance and value.
I tested the 8200mAh CNHL batteries after one minute charging the resistance went down from 9 milli Ohms to 5 milli Ohms on each cell and the battery was 57% charged! I think it is still very high fir a new battery!
Sure thing as onyx uses his old factory that made his v2 cells. And that's a fact. So yeah compare his old cells to the new ones and see who wins. Either way they are both his formulations. They have already admitted it.
Kindly a normal new 1P lipo battery would have an IR of around 1 m Ohms so when they use a 2 ply battery it should be around 0.5 m Ohms! The more cells that a battery have in parallel the less the resistance. Please correct me if I am wrong and thanks for the information videos you provide.
Thanks that is what I thought but I was not sure because 2 ply batteries thatbI checked haven't got that much difference although they are of the same make!@@RCexplained
I see. If you use 6000mAh and put it In parallel with another 6000 cell you end up with 12000mAh. That's a big pack. 2P packs are usually big otherwise they are not much different then a 1P regular cell.
Sure thing as onyx uses his old factory that made his v2 cells. And that's a fact. So yeah compare his old cells to the new ones and see who wins. Either way they are both his formulations. They have already admitted it.
@@dorsettcook 100% yes. That’s why those onyx packs are pretty good. But they’re not better than the Smc V3/ SRD packs obviously it’s the next generation
@@Mindcoach1on1 good, that's what I have smc srd v3
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SMC admits on their website that the C ratings printed on their packs are NOT true but they are forced to do it because everyone else in the industry lying out their ass. The reason why I love SMC is because they have a power factor number for most of their packs on their website. They load each cell with 105A and the voltage of the cell under that load is the power factor number. 3.85v would be 385. I don't know of ANYONE else that posts actual voltage drop under load results.
Sure thing as onyx uses his old factory that made his v2 cells. And that's a fact. So yeah compare his old cells to the new ones and see who wins. Either way they are both his formulations. They have already admitted it.
Kindly I purchased four new 3s CNHL batteries 8200mAh 120c HV and when I checked the resistance it was 8 milli Ohms on each cell, on all four batteries so I tried to charge them to 4.2v and discharge them again with 20 Amps and resistance was still the same after the battery cooled down. I charged them again this time to 4.25v per cell and discharge them again with 20 Amps and still the same. I charged them to 4.30v with 8.1Amps and discharge them again with 20Amps and still I had high readings of around 7 to 8 milli Ohms. The battery took 10:43.80 min to discharge from 12.9v to 11.10v and the 3550 v/mAh. I am a bit confused because normally when I purchase a new battery the resistance would be much lower. Please could you assist me with this issue because I am afraid that batteries are not safe to use because I can not imagine what will happen when they are under higher loads of around 400 to 500 Amps for a few seconds!
It sounds like the batteries have higher resistance. You can confirm you see the internal resistance value within the first minute or two of the charge. If 8 is the value, I agree that is high.
Normally when they go up to 10 to 15 milli Ohms I discard them but I never had CNHL and I am a bit disappointed with them and I have not yet tried them on the rc car.@@RCexplained
Yes and I am worried because when I left the battery to cool down and checked the resistance again it went up to 9 milli Ohms per cell. I never purchased CNHL but I use to use Ovonic and never had such issues but when I watched your video, I tried them out but I am very disappointed with CNHL performance because all four batteries are defective. Now I wrote to CNHL to provide me with a solution because I do not feel safe using these kind of batteries because they could catch on fire at any time in my opinion @@RCexplained
If I charge the 8200mAh battery to full charge and discharge it with 8.2 Amps, should it take one hour to discharge or my calculation is not correct, because I tried it with 20 Amps and it took around 10 minutes so if I divide 20 by 8.2 it comes out 2.4 so I if multiple it by 2.4 it will take around 24 min to discharge it approximately, so it is not even 8200mAh but just around 3280mAh, if I am correct with my calculation?
I'm glad you got these. I own 40 smc packs of all kinds.
Nice! I'd love to get more however, I have to ship it twice and the border shipment is $75 with duty.
Really glad i found your channel and your website is really a great tool well explained even for someone new in the hubby like me.
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Thanks for the video! It would be interesting to see some GensAce/Tattu testing. In my experience and testing they offer consistently good performance and value.
I'll keep these in mind
I tested the 8200mAh CNHL batteries after one minute charging the resistance went down from 9 milli Ohms to 5 milli Ohms on each cell and the battery was 57% charged!
I think it is still very high fir a new battery!
That's better but I agree, that is high.
Thanks for your videos @@RCexplained
SMC packs are on a different level.
That's what I heard and had to get some.
Awesome content as always...would be good to see a comparison between onyx, smc, and azure which are probably the top 3 batteries currently
Sure thing as onyx uses his old factory that made his v2 cells. And that's a fact. So yeah compare his old cells to the new ones and see who wins. Either way they are both his formulations. They have already admitted it.
Great suggestion!
Kindly a normal new 1P lipo battery would have an IR of around 1 m Ohms so when they use a 2 ply battery it should be around 0.5 m Ohms!
The more cells that a battery have in parallel the less the resistance.
Please correct me if I am wrong and thanks for the information videos you provide.
If you place a cell with an IR of 1.0mohm in parallel with an identical cell, IR would be 0.5
Thanks that is what I thought but I was not sure because 2 ply batteries thatbI checked haven't got that much difference although they are of the same make!@@RCexplained
I see. If you use 6000mAh and put it In parallel with another 6000 cell you end up with 12000mAh. That's a big pack. 2P packs are usually big otherwise they are not much different then a 1P regular cell.
Yes I agree but I am referring to the 2 ply battery packs like the one that you tested for example! @@RCexplained
Good video, good information, I have smc srd, can you test onyx
Sure thing as onyx uses his old factory that made his v2 cells. And that's a fact. So yeah compare his old cells to the new ones and see who wins. Either way they are both his formulations. They have already admitted it.
@@Mindcoach1on1 really?
@@dorsettcook 100% yes. That’s why those onyx packs are pretty good. But they’re not better than the Smc V3/ SRD packs obviously it’s the next generation
@@Mindcoach1on1 good, that's what I have smc srd v3
SMC admits on their website that the C ratings printed on their packs are NOT true but they are forced to do it because everyone else in the industry lying out their ass.
The reason why I love SMC is because they have a power factor number for most of their packs on their website. They load each cell with 105A and the voltage of the cell under that load is the power factor number. 3.85v would be 385.
I don't know of ANYONE else that posts actual voltage drop under load results.
That's true. They have that spec and no one else does. Still surprised the c rating has no meaning.
Time to get some onyx and compare it against an SMC pack.. lots of history there
Sure thing as onyx uses his old factory that made his v2 cells. And that's a fact. So yeah compare his old cells to the new ones and see who wins. Either way they are both his formulations. They have already admitted it.
I'll be looking out for a way to get onyx packs .
Kindly I purchased four new 3s CNHL batteries 8200mAh 120c HV and when I checked the resistance it was 8 milli Ohms on each cell, on all four batteries so I tried to charge them to 4.2v and discharge them again with 20 Amps and resistance was still the same after the battery cooled down.
I charged them again this time to 4.25v per cell and discharge them again with 20 Amps and still the same.
I charged them to 4.30v with 8.1Amps and discharge them again with 20Amps and still I had high readings of around 7 to 8 milli Ohms.
The battery took 10:43.80 min to discharge from 12.9v to 11.10v and the 3550 v/mAh.
I am a bit confused because normally when I purchase a new battery the resistance would be much lower.
Please could you assist me with this issue because I am afraid that batteries are not safe to use because I can not imagine what will happen when they are under higher loads of around 400 to 500 Amps for a few seconds!
It sounds like the batteries have higher resistance. You can confirm you see the internal resistance value within the first minute or two of the charge. If 8 is the value, I agree that is high.
Normally when they go up to 10 to 15 milli Ohms I discard them but I never had CNHL and I am a bit disappointed with them and I have not yet tried them on the rc car.@@RCexplained
Ya that's quite high especially for that capacity.
Yes and I am worried because when I left the battery to cool down and checked the resistance again it went up to 9 milli Ohms per cell.
I never purchased CNHL but I use to use Ovonic and never had such issues but when I watched your video, I tried them out but I am very disappointed with CNHL performance because all four batteries are defective. Now I wrote to CNHL to provide me with a solution because I do not feel safe using these kind of batteries because they could catch on fire at any time in my opinion @@RCexplained
If I charge the 8200mAh battery to full charge and discharge it with 8.2 Amps, should it take one hour to discharge or my calculation is not correct, because I tried it with 20 Amps and it took around 10 minutes so if I divide 20 by 8.2 it comes out 2.4 so I if multiple it by 2.4 it will take around 24 min to discharge it approximately, so it is not even 8200mAh but just around 3280mAh, if I am correct with my calculation?
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Kindly did you ever tested Onyx Lipo batteries?
No which model?
Something similar to the SMC with same volts , same amps and with same plies so we could compare them @@RCexplained
Is there a Canadian supplier for these packs?
None that I found.
so what's the real C rating? i know you can get it from the data but i'm lazy
i would use them if they were available in europe but they aren’t so i use cnhl
Cnhl are pretty good
What battery charger is that
Graupner ex1400
Gens ace redline hv packs
Nice, however any HV LiPo should outperform a standard voltage LIPo
Saying there best with out testing the rest, your just advertising.
He has tested like 100 batteries on this channel friend.
This is the best comment! uh oh, now I'm advertising the comment.