The Golden age.- .very apt description - we were blessed to be born into our generation.- some right old warriors and we're still going strong :))..love ur Vlog Mart - that "old" sense of humour shining thru :))).... entertaining in every way ..keep on keeping on :)) ...
Hello lovely, thank you for your kind words and lovely to hear from you. More Vlogs and tunes on the way...stay tuned my warrior friend. xx By the way...do you have a Facebook?
To your point im grateful for today's technology because I can write songs with my childhood friends even though we're spread throughout the country now.
Hey Martin, in the UK I think what you're saying is true to an extent, but maybe I'd look at it from a different angle. Don't ask 'where are the bands' but more along the lines of 'where are the venues, promoters, rehearsal spaces, record labels, and... fans'. Without a healthy gig economy, I don't think a band stands much of a chance of getting to your ears these days, so you really have to dig deep and look for them (and yes you will find them!). Not to mention all the other factors that complicate things e.g rehearsal rooms being bulldozed, venues being stretched and unable to take risks, and bands having to 'compete' with your bedroom solo artists who can do just about everything cheaper/more efficiently than a band. Long story short, if you want more bands, you have to go find them, support them, and champion them!
I couldn't agree more but...this is only a ten minute Vlog and I say 'umm' and 'err' and 'you know what I mean' a lot, so give me a break George 😅 Actually, you're completely right, of course. There are loads of contributing factors but my basic point was that the point of creation ie, some kids getting together to form a band has shifted. The paradigm has shifted. As you say, there needs to be support and facilities but there needs to be the need for those things. When I was coming up there was always a couple of school bands, or local lads (interestingly, I can't remember any girls in those bands) who'd put something together and we used to rehearse in all sorts of places. Someone's house, the local village hall, I've even rehearsed in the crypt of Arundel Cathedral hahaha. But there just doesn't seem to be that enthusiasm these day and I think it's for the reasons that I've stated.Thank you for your input George. It's appreciated. It's what this Vlog is all about. Getting involved and well thought out comments like yours make it all worthwhile. Cheers
Hello and thank you for your contribution and if you've subscribed...thank you for that too. But to your point -loads of good bands- really? outside of the blues scene you mean...bands doing original material, not covers or tributes? Loads of them? Nah...at least nowhere near as many as there were and why aren't they in the mainstream media. A good tune is a good tune and a good voice is a good voice etc...There's loads of bands that have been around for a while, but new ones? Of course there are exceptions to the rule but I really believe the rule has changed.
From a Swede, from the same generation: You nailed it. Same for me. It was a year between my first guitar and my first amp. Twelve months playing an electric guitar without an amp. (But I ruined my parents stereo while waiting). Thats our generation. It's easier to be decent, but harder to be great in this digital times. Thanks for the tune.
Subscribed. I hear you man. There was a real feel of banding together to support each other through musical creation and overcoming the mental suffering of the human condition.
Me and a friend of mine was talking just a couple weeks ago about where all the bands go. We were particularly talking about where all the southern rock bands at what happened is the creativity just gone
Not sure creativity has gone but the focus has definitely shifted. It's more technology based now but there's still a lot of skill involved. Put a drum machine in the hands of an expert and it can sound amazing...put it in the hands of me and I'll give it to an expert hahaha... And thanks for joining in the conversation. And if you've subscribed...thank you for that too
I live in Melbourne Australia and feel very fortunate that there still is a strong live scene down here and would regularly find up to 100 young bands playing original music around the traps on a given Friday or Saturday. The fact we've managed to hold onto these small pub stages has gone along way to giving musicians somewhere to play and a chance of them to meet like minded people and form bands. Not so the case in Sydney where I grew up , who have seen their smaller venues close and the development of these bands go with it. I am still very hopeful of the power of music and new bands coming along.
Despite the fact that the yuppies have shut down inner city pubs due to noise, and the the estate agents turning venues into apartments, and worst, the shit pay, most bands can’t do it without a day job
What about Bring Me The Horizon? Sleep Token? They ARE Goth bands, but they're young and new. But you're not wrong - kids show up at the open mics (and we go to NINE every month) with nice voices, singing along to backing trax on their phone. These kids often go to BRIT or BIMM but they're not all forming bands. It's weird. It really is. What must they be thinking at the jams when they see older people with instruments gathering in the stage area and busking out together? Thank God for the open mics and jams, at least they're seeing what you can do.
I think there is a stat that since the year 2000, the total amount of weeks that ANY band has been at number one in the chart is.............three. Debate that.
Modern virtuoso’s figured out the math to music but are empty of real experience. It's experience that is relatable to the listener. Also, listeners relate to lyrics and only feel the music. Currently working on a solo rock album. Subscribed !
Livin' La Video Loca hahahaha. How about, because you are talking about all sorts, why not call it Martin Abrahams Riffin' on Life? There's a bloke in the USA who has one called Riffin ABOUT Life but that won't play here and in Europe so, no competition.
Someone smarter than me, needs to figure out how to make albums a thing again. Not necessarily physical albums, but 8-10 songs released at once in continuous format. SINGLES are killing rock. I couldnt imagine listening to zepp "rock n roll" for the 1st time, and not listening to the rest of the album. Younger ppl are really missing out
@@bardsimpson1404 Yep, Couldn't agree more. And thanks for your contribution by the way, and if you've subscribed, thanks for that too. And you're dead right about the album thing. The only people who seem to bring out albums are the old guard.
@@humanexperiment61 oh wow! Thank you so much for that...and thank you for clicking my video. Appreciate your support... For more lovely content please subscribe. Thanks again👍
@@squelch666 well first of all, welcome and thank you for making the effort to join in. And as for your comment, yes playing along to a backing track, kind of illustrates my point? 😊👍
@@martinabrahamsmusic2141 sorry just to say i enjoyed the vlog but i would have liked to see a real drummer etc with your song and i'd be more engaged but that is technology for you.
@@squelch666 No need for sorry man. I appreciate your comment and the fact that you felt strongly enough to engage 😊 And as for real drummer etc...my next Vlog is about the pros and cons of recording with and without a band. Stay tuned
JAPAN thats where. I'm73 myself so don't take umbrage on this comment but you may be too old for this rabbit hole. i have seen them all in MY day, the BEST day ( No? Zep for $5 Tempe '77 for example ). Stones, Allmans, Bowie, Metallica, D Purp etc etc I have seen them ALL. And yet last year in Austin I saw Band Maid the best band I have ever heard or seen. th-cam.com/video/a6ZSvmnkS00/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/RCaeUkrItyY/w-d-xo.html
@@paddyofurniture4681 Too old? What does that mean? 😂 As I stress, I'm not here to talk about how great things were in my day and how rubbish they are now. As I mention there are good bits and bad bits about both. I'm just comparing the differences and how they've occured. To a lot of people including me, it's interesting. Don't think I'm having a go at the youth though, no way am I doing that. And as for being too old... that's the point of the Vlog. You're never too old. Too old to play professional football maybe...not to express ideas though. 😊👍
@@martinabrahamsmusic2141 Could I have been more vague, sheesh, yes that was very poorly worded. I'll try again-Too old in the sense the rabbit hole is so broad and deep and so little time left to explore lol. But what wonders to behold, no hype best band anywhere. I truly hope you enjoy your journey, if you take it, a tenth as much as I have- revitalized my love of rock completely. Cheers mate
@@paddyofurniture4681 It's great that you have such enthusiasm. That's why I'm doing this Vlog. It's about us like-minded oldies having a community and maybe trying to inspire some other old buggers who won't leave the potting shed 😂 Anyway. Nice to virtually meet you and I hope you stick around for the upcoming Vlogs and music quizzes and of course, my lovely music. If you subscribe and then hit the little bell thingy, you'll get alerts when I post stuff. That last sentence was purely a sales pitch 😂👍
@@martinabrahamsmusic2141 Yes it was sales pitch. SOLD! Just rang the bell. Here's my sales pitch back atcha. React to those vids I sent you or ANY other Band Maid vids out there any of them and let us know your honest opinion, at this point I'll be dying to hear.
@@paddyofurniture4681 Yep. Band Maid...love 'em. I notice those vids are a few years old. Are they still going? What's happening with them? Please don't say they're big in Japan 😅
Why no bands anymore? 1. Streaming 2. Ticketmaster/Live Nation… end of story. You literally can’t make a living playing in a band. The record industry should have died 20 years ago…but much like a parasitic infection it has mutated and figured out ways to steal money from artists though 369 deals. Might be able to afford to tour if it’s just you. But 4/5 guys? Forget it.
I was listening to the Rockonteurs podcast with Adam Clayton of U2. He said that the band were on their third album and living at home with their parents because they still didn't have any money. Likewise, part of the reason Bill Wyman left the Stones was because Mick and Keef -the writers- made all the money while he Charlie and Ron made very little. Google it. And there are countless stories of bands having hit albums and being world famous and having no money, unless either they were the writers in the band or the writers shared the publishing with them. The only difference now is that the monetisation comes from different sources: expensive concert tickets, merchandising, some social media platforms and if you're lucky, getting a tune on a popular video game. And the people doing the ripping off aren't so much dodgy managers and record companies, but as you say, the crooked organisations who are running the show. So back to my point. There are no actual bands because the paradigm of how a kid starts making music is the thing that's changed. He might hook on to other kids at school who are into making music but they don't pester their parents for a drum kit and get down the village hall with their mates anymore. They've got home studios on their phones. And yes...of course there are exceptions. Look at the post from @mals4125 in these comments. He says there's a healthy band scene in Melbourne. A whole city where it's going on. And finally. Thanks for your contribution. It's what the Vlog is about. And if you've subscribed, thank you for that too. Cheers, Martin
@@shadowman8786 Hiya and thank you for taking the time to comment. In answer to it, I've put my point to Pete and if you've subscribed, thank you for that too. Cheers, Martin
The Golden age.- .very apt description - we were blessed to be born into our generation.- some right old warriors and we're still going strong :))..love ur Vlog Mart - that "old" sense of humour shining thru :))).... entertaining in every way ..keep on keeping on :)) ...
Hello lovely, thank you for your kind words and lovely to hear from you. More Vlogs and tunes on the way...stay tuned my warrior friend. xx By the way...do you have a Facebook?
To your point im grateful for today's technology because I can write songs with my childhood friends even though we're spread throughout the country now.
Love that tune! ✌️
Hey Martin, in the UK I think what you're saying is true to an extent, but maybe I'd look at it from a different angle. Don't ask 'where are the bands' but more along the lines of 'where are the venues, promoters, rehearsal spaces, record labels, and... fans'. Without a healthy gig economy, I don't think a band stands much of a chance of getting to your ears these days, so you really have to dig deep and look for them (and yes you will find them!). Not to mention all the other factors that complicate things e.g rehearsal rooms being bulldozed, venues being stretched and unable to take risks, and bands having to 'compete' with your bedroom solo artists who can do just about everything cheaper/more efficiently than a band. Long story short, if you want more bands, you have to go find them, support them, and champion them!
I couldn't agree more but...this is only a ten minute Vlog and I say 'umm' and 'err' and 'you know what I mean' a lot, so give me a break George 😅 Actually, you're completely right, of course. There are loads of contributing factors but my basic point was that the point of creation ie, some kids getting together to form a band has shifted. The paradigm has shifted. As you say, there needs to be support and facilities but there needs to be the need for those things. When I was coming up there was always a couple of school bands, or local lads (interestingly, I can't remember any girls in those bands) who'd put something together and we used to rehearse in all sorts of places. Someone's house, the local village hall, I've even rehearsed in the crypt of Arundel Cathedral hahaha. But there just doesn't seem to be that enthusiasm these day and I think it's for the reasons that I've stated.Thank you for your input George. It's appreciated. It's what this Vlog is all about. Getting involved and well thought out comments like yours make it all worthwhile. Cheers
There are no bands like the 70s and 80s hit after hit after hit after hit and on top of all the one hit wonders my God
There's loads of great bands now. They're just not in the mainstream media.
Hello and thank you for your contribution and if you've subscribed...thank you for that too. But to your point -loads of good bands- really? outside of the blues scene you mean...bands doing original material, not covers or tributes? Loads of them? Nah...at least nowhere near as many as there were and why aren't they in the mainstream media. A good tune is a good tune and a good voice is a good voice etc...There's loads of bands that have been around for a while, but new ones? Of course there are exceptions to the rule but I really believe the rule has changed.
From a Swede, from the same generation:
You nailed it. Same for me. It was a year between my first guitar and my first amp. Twelve months playing an electric guitar without an amp. (But I ruined my parents stereo while waiting). Thats our generation.
It's easier to be decent, but harder to be great in this digital times. Thanks for the tune.
Ah, I didn't have the technical skills to ruin my parents stereo...otherwise, who knows what trouble I could've caused! 🤣
Subscribed. I hear you man. There was a real feel of banding together to support each other through musical creation and overcoming the mental suffering of the human condition.
@@ChristopherCampanile There was...and thank you for the subscription 😊👍
Me and a friend of mine was talking just a couple weeks ago about where all the bands go. We were particularly talking about where all the southern rock bands at what happened is the creativity just gone
Not sure creativity has gone but the focus has definitely shifted. It's more technology based now but there's still a lot of skill involved. Put a drum machine in the hands of an expert and it can sound amazing...put it in the hands of me and I'll give it to an expert hahaha... And thanks for joining in the conversation. And if you've subscribed...thank you for that too
Music is always changing. They all have had their peaks and go away. Its generational and well always change. Its not complicated.
I live in Melbourne Australia and feel very fortunate that there still is a strong live scene down here and would regularly find up to 100 young bands playing original music around the traps on a given Friday or Saturday.
The fact we've managed to hold onto these small pub stages has gone along way to giving musicians somewhere to play and a chance of them to meet like minded people and form bands. Not so the case in Sydney where I grew up , who have seen their smaller venues close and the development of these bands go with it.
I am still very hopeful of the power of music and new bands coming along.
@@mals4125 That's great to hear. 👍
Despite the fact that the yuppies have shut down inner city pubs due to noise, and the the estate agents turning venues into apartments, and worst, the shit pay, most bands can’t do it without a day job
Airbag ( The Norwegian band ) are the best thing around at the moment if you like Floyd you should love them.
@@minners71 I'll check 'em out. Thanks 👍
Great song.
@@aliengrey6052 Thank you 😊👍
I used to put the headstock of my bass on the furniture to amplify it because my dad didn't want to hear it though the amplifier haha
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wow great guitar and singing!
@@thadonis. Thank you for your kind words and for joining in and if you've subscribed,thanks for that too. Our little community is doing well 😊👍
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And you deserve more subs with your ability.
Like your stuff, Martin. Subbed. 🤘
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What about Bring Me The Horizon? Sleep Token? They ARE Goth bands, but they're young and new. But you're not wrong - kids show up at the open mics (and we go to NINE every month) with nice voices, singing along to backing trax on their phone. These kids often go to BRIT or BIMM but they're not all forming bands. It's weird. It really is. What must they be thinking at the jams when they see older people with instruments gathering in the stage area and busking out together? Thank God for the open mics and jams, at least they're seeing what you can do.
Dig the tune
Never occurred to me how people can make music by themselves & we lose some of the benefits of collaboration..
I think there is a stat that since the year 2000, the total amount of weeks that ANY band has been at number one in the chart is.............three. Debate that.
I believe Rick Beato did a video on this topic.
Modern virtuoso’s figured out the math to music but are empty of real experience. It's experience that is relatable to the listener. Also, listeners relate to lyrics and only feel the music.
Currently working on a solo rock album. Subscribed !
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Livin' La Video Loca hahahaha. How about, because you are talking about all sorts, why not call it Martin Abrahams Riffin' on Life? There's a bloke in the USA who has one called Riffin ABOUT Life but that won't play here and in Europe so, no competition.
Not bad that!
Someone smarter than me, needs to figure out how to make albums a thing again. Not necessarily physical albums, but 8-10 songs released at once in continuous format. SINGLES are killing rock. I couldnt imagine listening to zepp "rock n roll" for the 1st time, and not listening to the rest of the album. Younger ppl are really missing out
@@bardsimpson1404 Yep, Couldn't agree more. And thanks for your contribution by the way, and if you've subscribed, thanks for that too. And you're dead right about the album thing. The only people who seem to bring out albums are the old guard.
The YT algorythm recommended your video while I was listening to this phantastic band. th-cam.com/video/yzvJQsgJf-Y/w-d-xo.html
@@humanexperiment61 oh wow! Thank you so much for that...and thank you for clicking my video. Appreciate your support... For more lovely content please subscribe. Thanks again👍
Topic where have the bands gone...and you finish playing along to backing track bit hypocritical, where is the band
@@squelch666 well first of all, welcome and thank you for making the effort to join in. And as for your comment, yes playing along to a backing track, kind of illustrates my point? 😊👍
@@martinabrahamsmusic2141 sorry just to say i enjoyed the vlog but i would have liked to see a real drummer etc with your song and i'd be more engaged but that is technology for you.
@@squelch666 No need for sorry man. I appreciate your comment and the fact that you felt strongly enough to engage 😊 And as for real drummer etc...my next Vlog is about the pros and cons of recording with and without a band. Stay tuned
@@martinabrahamsmusic2141 i have subscribed. Looking forward to that Vlog.
JAPAN thats where.
I'm73 myself so don't take umbrage on this comment but you may be too old for this rabbit hole.
i have seen them all in MY day, the BEST day ( No? Zep for $5 Tempe '77 for example ).
Stones, Allmans, Bowie, Metallica, D Purp etc etc I have seen them ALL.
And yet last year in Austin I saw Band Maid the best band I have ever heard or seen.
th-cam.com/video/a6ZSvmnkS00/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/RCaeUkrItyY/w-d-xo.html
@@paddyofurniture4681 Too old? What does that mean? 😂 As I stress, I'm not here to talk about how great things were in my day and how rubbish they are now. As I mention there are good bits and bad bits about both. I'm just comparing the differences and how they've occured. To a lot of people including me, it's interesting. Don't think I'm having a go at the youth though, no way am I doing that. And as for being too old... that's the point of the Vlog. You're never too old. Too old to play professional football maybe...not to express ideas though. 😊👍
@@martinabrahamsmusic2141 Could I have been more vague, sheesh, yes that was very poorly worded. I'll try again-Too old in the sense the rabbit hole is so broad and deep and so little time left to explore lol. But what wonders to behold, no hype best band anywhere. I truly hope you enjoy your journey, if you take it, a tenth as much as I have- revitalized my love of rock completely.
Cheers mate
@@paddyofurniture4681 It's great that you have such enthusiasm. That's why I'm doing this Vlog. It's about us like-minded oldies having a community and maybe trying to inspire some other old buggers who won't leave the potting shed 😂 Anyway. Nice to virtually meet you and I hope you stick around for the upcoming Vlogs and music quizzes and of course, my lovely music. If you subscribe and then hit the little bell thingy, you'll get alerts when I post stuff. That last sentence was purely a sales pitch 😂👍
@@martinabrahamsmusic2141 Yes it was sales pitch. SOLD! Just rang the bell. Here's my sales pitch back atcha. React to those vids I sent you or ANY other Band Maid vids out there any of them and let us know your honest opinion, at this point I'll be dying to hear.
@@paddyofurniture4681 Yep. Band Maid...love 'em. I notice those vids are a few years old. Are they still going? What's happening with them? Please don't say they're big in Japan 😅
Why no bands anymore? 1. Streaming 2. Ticketmaster/Live Nation… end of story. You literally can’t make a living playing in a band.
The record industry should have died 20 years ago…but much like a parasitic infection it has mutated and figured out ways to steal money from artists though 369 deals.
Might be able to afford to tour if it’s just you. But 4/5 guys? Forget it.
Is the correct answer. I'm glad someone knows the truth on here.
I was listening to the Rockonteurs podcast with Adam Clayton of U2. He said that the band were on their third album and living at home with their parents because they still didn't have any money. Likewise, part of the reason Bill Wyman left the Stones was because Mick and Keef -the writers- made all the money while he Charlie and Ron made very little. Google it. And there are countless stories of bands having hit albums and being world famous and having no money, unless either they were the writers in the band or the writers shared the publishing with them.
The only difference now is that the monetisation comes from different sources: expensive concert tickets, merchandising, some social media platforms and if you're lucky, getting a tune on a popular video game. And the people doing the ripping off aren't so much dodgy managers and record companies, but as you say, the crooked organisations who are running the show.
So back to my point. There are no actual bands because the paradigm of how a kid starts making music is the thing that's changed. He might hook on to other kids at school who are into making music but they don't pester their parents for a drum kit and get down the village hall with their mates anymore. They've got home studios on their phones. And yes...of course there are exceptions. Look at the post from @mals4125 in these comments. He says there's a healthy band scene in Melbourne. A whole city where it's going on.
And finally. Thanks for your contribution. It's what the Vlog is about. And if you've subscribed, thank you for that too. Cheers, Martin
@@shadowman8786 Hiya and thank you for taking the time to comment. In answer to it, I've put my point to Pete and if you've subscribed, thank you for that too. Cheers, Martin
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