We went WAYYYY Mall goth. When I was young in the 90s, our school had Goths & we called ourselves Barbie Goths. Instead of trad goth style, we used Malibu Barbie colors to be counter-counter looks. We used fake tans & blue eyeshadow like Barbie dolls had- but we thought we were cool to do our makeup like the trad Goths styles. I wish I had pics! We were way into the Cure, NIN, slipknot, etc. We wore the same black pants & goth jewelry just with pops of Barbie doll colors. It was strange being a goth in the USA in the late 90s.
That's absolutely amazing!!! I'm always trying to figure out how to do more Barbie Goth looks and trying to bring more color into my goth fashion! Would love to see some pictures if you do find any! 💕🦇🖤- Lynn
Yeah Barbie goth was a thing in canada too Canada just does everything weird were like America but we say aboot a lot and say Roooof instead of roof almost like your a dog barking.
back when when drowning pool released let the bodies hit the floor the "something's wrong with me" line came off as edgy but now as times passed as my body has changed i honestly sometimes wonder if something is wrong with me medically with the aches and pains.
I’m a older millennial who grew up in a highly religious family so I made do with black shirts and messy black shadow (until they got taken away) now I’m reclaiming my own identity and style again and it is so freeing and honestly I love all the new little baby bats showing up! Life is too short not to try things out at least once or discover who you are!
Early 00s Irish Mall goth here...we wore the coal chamber tshirts, the fishnets, the eyeliner, the multicoloured hair and spikes in all of our piercings. And in the back arse of Laois 😅 I'd give anything for my 22" wide leg criminal damage jeans back, with the discman in the leg pocket 😂 this was a great trip down memory lane....cheers! 🤘
Having grown up in this era, you guys smashed it! Manchester was full of mall goths ( spooky kids or moshers as we were called back then) hanging around afflecks and urbis. It began with manson in the late 90s and exploded with the murderdolls in the early 2000s.
Funny you mention that because in Dublin we have tons of young mall goths emerging nowadays despite never having them during the original wave. But when we went to Manchester recently we saw tons of alternative people but not as many mall goths! Maybe because you already had it! Also Afflecks 🖤
I am 43 now and I would have been considered a mall goth as an Australian around 97-2000 (eventually exploring punk and eventually just casual goth ever since). I remember as a teen, we didn’t (couldn’t afford) brushes, so I used to use cheap black eye shadow as a base for eyes, then apply a thick layer of black eye pencil and smudge it. There was little blending, but messy, which I loved. Then I would use dark red lipstick and like it with black eye liner, and smudge that a little in the lip line. I did have kind of thinner eye brows but mine were just in its natural shape.
I love this! Here in America, the whole Mall Goth thing sort of kicked off with the other Goths wanting to distance themselves from Manson after Columbine (because as someone who was Goth AND a Manson fan in 1999 in school where I was always getting attacked for being a weirdo anyway, shit got real very quickly in terms of how we were treated and I get it....All Goths went through a hard time at school anyway. Adding to it the whole school asking you on a regular basis if you were in the "trench coat mafia" and fully acting afraid if a teacher caught y'all fighting when they started it just so YOU would be the one to blame for it...violent Goths and all🙄....it was just worse after Columbine and they did't want the added hassle). So in that attempt to distance themselves from the Goths people would associate with Manson (Mall Goths, mainly, but pre-Columbine, everyone who was Goth was associated with him simply because he had mainstreamed and even preps knew his look and who he was). The was around the time the rest of the Goths started pretending they did not listen to Manson (while doing it in secretly), again, trying to distance themselves. I personally did not like the style but I could never find Goth clothes to fit me except JNCO's (which I did love then and I still love now and I will get a new pair of at some point) and rock tee shirts (or black tanktops in the summer) so those were the clothes I wore unless I found a cool black dress at the thrift store or something. I did have the skinny eyebrows (my sister, who is 27 to my 36, is STILL trying to get me to give up my skinny brows and I am trying...but it's hard...lmao). But the music I like was always traditional Goth and I still feel that I am a traditional Goth who was just mistaken for a Mall Goth back in the day. I was poor so I couldn't afford makeup from places like Hot Topic. As a result, desperate times called for desperate measures. lmao I would buy as much black lipstick and those Halloween makeup pallets from WalMart at Halloween time and that is what I used. We could not really get black lipstick in a regular store and I don't remember any standard Maybelline type eyeshadow pallets having black in them back then. So I would often wear the darkest brown I could get with the white clown makeup from the Halloween pallet as a foundation...it looked about as well as you could imagine. 😂😂😂 I wore a literal black dog collar with spikes (which my then five year old sister swiped one day and put on at school prompting a stern call from the school secretary to come and get it immediate...lmao) and I wore spiked bracelets and band necklaces and hoop earrings. And I STILL wear black boots (although my bones are no longer young so the heel is substantially smaller) and I always had long dark brown (and when I was 15 it became blue black...the color I still use to cover all of my white hair...lol) hair that I just wore down my back. I am no hair stylist. lol Like I said, to me, I was traditional goth in every way EXCEPT my clothes (and being a Manson fan of course...lmao) which got me lumped in with Mall Goths always. lmao I love these trips down memory land and I think you both did great with the looks. I think your Trad Goth video was great too. This is probably one of my favorite Goth channels, honestly, because you two have a great vibe. 😊
Amazing insights into the time period thank you! We definitely felt the struggle even in the 2000s (Ireland is generally 10-20 years behind the rest of the world but we're getting better lately) and had to raid the halloween section for year round makeup and accessories! Glad you liked the video, thank you 🦇🖤
@@RandomGothCouple Could you imagine trying to explain to the baby bats nowadays, the process of spending a month buying up Halloween makeup and nail polish to be Goth all year long? They not only only have access to all of the clothing and makeup they could want but also videos that teach them how to apply the makeup. We were a damn mess. 😂 But it was fun, though, the experimentation of it all. In that way I feel we were very lucky.
I was thinking the same, only bcs finding white foundation would only happen during Halloween 😂 and my parents already would lose their sh*t with my makeup, let alone having a white foundation
Honestly I just appreciate how open you guys are to different Goth and Alternative sub-cultures. Growing up in the 80s and 90s I was always on the fringe between Punk and Goth but had very little access to the clothing. I had a generally looked more punk because that was an easier aesthetic to do with the resources I had but I listed to both Goth and Punk music and definitely preferred the Goth aesthetic, including the Mall Goths and Spooky Kids.
I love mall goths they are so unique and that is what I like about them because for me they’re not quite fully Goth but also they are Goth they got a mixture of every alternative culture out there and I love that respect to mall goths
I actually agree with you here, Mall Goth was like a melting pot of so many different styles its like the culmination of years of counter culture in one!
This is like a hybrid between that Corey Taylor mask and korn, I had no idea this style was mall goth, I thought Connor’s usual look was mall goth, great video!
Thank you! Might have to start adding the spikes more often, really liked the nose one! Also glad you liked it, hit a good rhythm editing lately and I feel like its improved!
Conor and Lynn dolls coming soon to a toy store near you… 😂 had to love them though. Does feel like there was quite a cross over between mall goth and maybe a toned down cyber goth? Just need to add the dreads and you are half way there
Absolutely terrifying! 😂 Would love to own some one day though! Yeah similar shapes for sure! We have a lot of preparing to do for the Cyber Goth look 💀
Former 90s teen here! I loved this! You both did a great job! :) A few FAQ (from what I can remember): - Mallgoth wasn't an actual subculture back then. It was this amorphic cultural phenomenon among the spooky teens of the era (circa 1994 - 2004). - No one used the term back then (that came later when the movement started to die off and emo took over for the next generation). - This was the 'labels are for soup cans' era. People would get SUPER angry if you tried to label them anything other than an 'individual'. - I'd say that 'mallgoth' started around 1994 when "Portrait of an American Family' came out. MM's influence was HUGE. - In America, "Mallgoths" were just the baby bats of the 90s. Age and access was the only difference between "mallgoths" and the Goths hanging out in Goth Clubs. - Truth is, all spooky weird teens circa the 90s and early 2000s were "Mallgoths". We all listened to stuff like KMFDM or Slipknot because that's what MTV and the local alternative radio stations played. - Hot Topic was great because it was accessible. HT sold the same clothing brands advertised in Goth magazines like Carpe Noctem and Gothic Beauty. - Most "mallgoths" in America weren't that elaborate. Most of us were heavily restricted in how we could dress and made due with what he had. The photos Gen Z post on their "Mallgoth Tumblr Blogs" only show the over the top examples. But they were rare.
Thanks Ronald. We are pretty blessed in the cosmetics world nowadays, I remember doing my entire makeup back in the day with a red eyeliner pencil and a black eyeliner pencil and that was it!
I live in NY and was a literal child during the mall goth era. But I remember seeing them in droves at the mall in the early 2000s. I used to stare at them while sitting in the stroller and thinking to myself, "that's what I'm going to be when I get older" and then my mom would turn my stroller around to face the opposite direction and tell me "not to stare at the Satanists." I also remember the term "mall goth" still being considered a pejorative term a few years later when I actually did start being a goth as a tween.
When I was a teenager in the malls of the american south west, I called myself a punk, but I wore red and black lipstick on my eyes and sharpie permanent marker on my lips.. Spiked my hair crazy with Elmer's school glue and spraypaint.. Wore black trenchcoats, bandshirts, handmade bondagepants, black shorts with ripped up striped tights and knee high combat boots.. I still have lots of piercings, used to wear chains in my face a lot as well.. Oh, the late 90s..💚
I have an interesting story. I desired deeply to dress Goth as early as 12, I was terrified of my parents though as they hated Goths and often laughed at and mocked them on TV. This was all the way back in the early 2000s. The bands that introduced me to the fashion were Skinny Puppy and, to a lesser extent, the scene surrounding Type O Negative. My gateway into all of this was through an old 90s game called Descent 2 which had both these artists on its ost. When my parents divorced four years later I had already developed a solid taste in music. I began dressing Goth I would say my second or third year in high school. I consumed a wide variety of music around this time because I was into playing instruments back then. The bands that I really developed a fond for were mainly Killing Joke, an old band called Throbbing Gristle, Darkthrone, an obscure band known as Shape of Despair, Front Line Assembly and, during my senior year, a little known band called Red Flag (Fear of a Red Planet being my favourite album by them). I was also somewhat into the gabber/Hardcore music of Delta9 around this same time which inspired some of the music in a band I was in. I was a huge listener of Skinny Puppy and Type O Negative for a long time and still listen to them a lot as an adult. As a teen in the 2000s I looked down on a lot of trends, styles and music. I didn't like emos or the music because it looked pretty and sounded like little kids stuff to me. I had no idea what a mallgoth was back then and had never even heard the term until a couple of years ago after my 31st birthday. I did however have a word I often used to describe "goths" who listened to Marilyn Manson, Korn and My Chemical Romance, it was Mallcore Kids. Mallcore being the music and Mallcore Kids being the scene. I lived in a small town going to a small town high school when I was a teen so I had no chance to check out Alt Stores. I often got creative because all my mother would buy me was black sweaters, black jeans, black shirts and this underwear with skulls and bones on them. Barely got to wear metallic items, chains or goth style belts. Had a lot of black eyeliner but I had to sneak it from my mother's bedroom. I never got to dye my hair either sadly. I never really liked bands like Disturbed, Slipknot, Mudvayne or Evanescence and I thought Linkin Park was tasteless music. Slipknot I had never actually heard of until my senior year in high school. Mudvayne came to me way later like my mid 20s. All these bands had real ugly scenes from what I heard. I had a bad tendency also to idolize Trent Reznor around the mid 2000s and tried to copy his most Gothic fashion style as much as I could sometimes. Pretty much the whole Nu Metal world made me gag as a teen and never really found any Goths in my high school. It was all metalheads, gangster kids, and the odd emos. I knew what Hot Topic was when I was a teen but didn't like it because I thought it was a store for Emo Kids. Even if I did want to go to Hot Topic I couldn't because it didn't exist in Canada at the time. I went to a Hot Topic store in Winnipeg a couple of years ago and still didn't like it because not a lot of the cool clothes from there fit me. I guess it's mostly clothes catering to young kids. My clothing style, when I moved out, became much more obvious. When I entered into my 20s I started to blend small elements of Punk into my Goth style. Mainly because as I got older I got introduced to stuff like Sisters of Mercy, The Misfits and Circle Jerks. Almost all the clothes I wore when I wasn't working or going to formal events were modified by me or given to me by peers. Much of these clothes were bought from general clothing vendors or thrift stores. Throughout my early to mid 20s I owned a pair of black Gortex combat boots. Those things lasted a long time and I often miss those boots. The first Goth club I ever attended was when I was 19 at a place in Montreal called the Katacombs. I had a lot of buds that went there during nights like that and really enjoyed it. I wouldn't really start attending Goth clubs regularly until 2022 a year after I moved to Winnipeg. At the time I was working for a kitchen at a hotel chain near the downtown area. Was and still am excited whenever Goth related events happen here. Often I like to decorate my place with dark objects. I also sometimes like to collect obscure anime dealing with Gothic Horror. Well work is as the same and boring as ever. My main hobbies are mostly computer code related stuff, which I've been into for decades, and reading lots.
I was a mall goth back in middle school in 2002. I also shopped at Torrid because it had plus-size women's clothing. I would use red blush for my eyeshadow lol. Good memories.
Omg thank you! I was struggling to remember the name, I knew Hot Topic had launched another store! The original Torrid was quite edgy from pictures i've seen! Good call on the blush! Thats thinking outside the box!
Sounds like Mall goth made it way more accessible for kids to get into the style that they had probably only seen in music videos or magazines. Seems crazy to me that there were people who saw that & thought 'poser' rather than 'now I can look the way I want to look'. I definitely would have been one of those kids, if my parents actually let me, back then lol
Definitely, it was accessible and affordable for them to finally dress in a way they wanted. I think the scene did them a bit of injustice by mocking them instead of embracing and nurturing their interest in it. But elitists gonna elite!
Mtv was the biggest exposure we had to it here but unfortunately our clothing stores were always 10 yeas behind the rest of the world! Interesting, seems like the skater scene was very much entangled with mall goth!
I was 13 in 2007. We had a strong scene happening at my local mall, it had a grassy area outside. It was actually so good though - skaters, a few punks, nu metal kids, goths, lots of emos and spooky kids just hanging out talking about music, school, life stuff. It was also a good meeting point before we went elsewhere too. Lasted for about 3 year's before it was shut down because too many people in the community complained it was dangerous. It really wasn't. I think they just didn't like the alt people loitering there. You two look great! I like this more than the trad goth. Can't wait for the next series installment. ❤🖤
I worked at a goth boutique in Chicago no longer in business called Medusa’s Circle for a few years before Hot Topic opened. Hot topics was hiring goth designers I knew and taking off the artists designer label to sew Hot Topic label over it! I miss SHOES for sale in store because during the mall Goth stage of Hot topic, they actually sold reasonable cool shoes you could try on! My friends and I during that period just went Siousxie crazed with our make up. We had a lot of fake hair we stuck in or got synthetic lavender extensions in our black dreadlock extension hair. GOOD Times!🧛♀️
I hear Chicago had a really decent alt scene back in the day. The alley is still going to this day right? Sounds like it was amazing back in its prime! And yes I saw from their archived website they had a lot of really great shoes for reasonable prices! Always interested to hear what/who inspired peoples make up looks back then too! Thank you!
@@RandomGothCouple it's possible with our cemetery walks and dark music we listen to, it's spirit and the darkness of the night that envelops us as we bathe in moonlight that inspires the make up and clothes we wear. This "dark" life also creates comfort and happiness with in a goth's life as we sit in the veil between worlds to observe.
I loooove this so much! You both really nailed it! I was definitely a mix of emo, mall goth, and later scene kid in the early 00s. 😅😊❤ I had several piercings and spiked belts and so many chains my high school said they were hazardous and made me remove them from my tripp pants while on school property.
I went to HS in upper MN (Im half Ojibwe half Scandanavian) and graduated in 1998! Mall goth was BIG right around and just after 1996 when I started de-conforming, and while I did not consider myself anything at first I still wore a couple pair of those giant JNCO pants, LOVED KORN and Marilyn Manson, shaved my long hair into only bangs and long eartails and tried to dye it blue (it ended up just being green in the light since my hair is naturally very dark, my senior pics were NOT to my family's liking lol) then later the TRIPP skinny bondage pants!! Oh, also the loooong chain wallets, or sometimes the thin metal ball-chains! Originally the term 'SKATER' was applied to anyone supposedly alternative looking, especially with the giant legged jeans, because a smallish crowd of 'goth' had come and gone so quietly.. So, as a 'crust punk' or just punk, as a very new term to the area, I TOTALLY felt as though I had found who I truly was! POSER was a HUGE derogitory term at the time, and I heard the term, and many other sort of bygone terms, every day. It felt so awesome for a littlewhile! I was doing the red eyeshadow, but it was more of an almost coral, blended in all around the eye. No foundation. Eventually it became that we were supposed to wear makeup at all. Then, when we as women tried to stand up for equality, unity, peace, we were deemed 'feminazi'. It seemed as though if we didnt like bands that were SO underground that no one knew of them, or appreciated bands like Crass or what was then called Ska or pop punk like Op Ivy or god forbid Rancid, then we were def NOT PUNK. What started as fun and great times swiftly devolved into being no one was as punk as those that could display no emotion, hate on everyone else for the stupidest if reasons, consumed the least, ignored everything that made them happy, or enjoyed absolutely anything that anyone else ever enjoyed. I wish a supportive, more open minded and free-er thinking group had been available then! It took me a while to get over the mindset that these A holes had tried to hammer into our heads. Point is, its tough to find who you are on the inside at such a young age, AND on the outside. For those of us that were banded together by our differences to the majority, I am glad that we are able to dress and think and live how we feel is best for ourselves now, even though it still feels like we are that young teen being looked down on sometimes. I enjoy your content because you do what makes YOU BOTH happy, and put it out there, and speak to those of us who have had similar situations surrounding our looks or taste in music. Thank you! Even though we ran with different groups, seemingly, we understand the struggles and they JOY!
I love this series so much please make more of these! I think if you’d do a cybergoth video, you both could help baby bats find the subgenre. Also very excited for deathrock please!
You both looked amazing! Very Roadrunner Records aesthetic...like...1998..."Drilling the Vein" VHS tape...purchased on a Saturday afternoon from a city centre HMV vibes 🤘😜
We had exactly one club that did anything goth (goth & disco night once a week). EDM was a bigger scene so most of us in the 90s just wore band shirts and baggy jeans with holes in legs. There were a handful that looked like you 2 but they were actually picked on as "try hards" lol. We were a weird bunch. Hell, I even got (lightly) picked on for being more into industrial and zombie movies instead of goth and vampires. Kinda miss it though lol
I mean at least you had a weekly night! Here in 2023 we still only get monthly, if even! I think MOST mall goths got picked on as try hards to be fair! Ah the nostalgia though
I was 9-10 around 1999 and 2000, so I got into Mall goth a bit late. But I did enjoy those bands and fashion senses. I got into Goth Generally in 2004-05 when I was a freshman in High School. I repped the Marilyn Manson striped Spooky Kids look a long time. I kinda changed it into a diff look recently. I never really stopped until the Allegations came around. But then, with the recent bombshell news I just changed it and went back in. I didn't even know Tiktok is doing the Mall Goth stuff. That's fun.
I used to use the "Ice Black" stuff at a hair salons too. I have naturally dirty red hair and made It red and black or blue at times. and the bangs def had to be "Prongs" like a lot of guys do.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! Wow you also reminded me yes there were those coloured gels you could get to style your hair. I remember getting a red one and using it to spike up my hair as a tween haha thank you!
My 3rd (born in 1989) son's nick name was Tacklebox because of his face piercings and gages. I had to sign for his piercings to be done. He wouldn't let me do it like we did in the punk days with safety pins and ice cubes. I love the memories that you have me thinking about with my teen goth child. I snuck to listen to the Sex Pistols as a teen. I'm now the grandma that wears a lot of black lol and likes creepy spooky things.
Its good to see people reviving and trying out the style! I used to do my lips by moisturizing with a thin layer of aquaphor, really rub it in, then have a liner that was 1 shade darker than my initial lip to section shapes and lip crevices, then use the initial color to fill, use a napkin or folded moist paper towel to blot off or pat extra, then do a final layer to seal off. Works great for alt folks with thicker or wider lips .
I remember this in the 90s and early 2000's it even carried into the metal scenes for mid 2000's also. I remember seeing this look a lot at metal shows throughout those times. Ah good times in terms of memory, but the social issues that came with it were not. The hair had me rolling, but it was the look and you nailed it. Outfit without the hair seems like it was actually something that would work well in every day wear in the goth styles.
I grew up in a small town in the US Midwest in the late 90s and early 00s, and I definitely was the quintessential small town goth kid. I even worked at Hot Topic from 2004-2005, I saw it all. It's fun to see people throwing back to this style! One thing that is different in the recreations of the style is the precision and updated makeup techniques. We didn't use any of that! No one had brushes, blended, or contoured. Your makeup would've been a drug store foundation, Manic Panic white out powder, a crappy crayon eyeliner, and Hot Topic brand Morbid powder eyeshadow applied with your finger. Smudge things around with your finger around your eyes for that extra special dreadful look, and you're out the door to go be weird in public with your friends. I wasn't into the Tripp pants with chains, but I definitely had super wide leg black Tripp pants, a band shirt, collar, and trench coat with long black hair as my daily look. Today, well into my mid 30s, I still am more or less a goth/rivethead, and it's funny because for decades I've collected much nicer clothes and footwear than I wore back then. When I go out to a show or to the club, my makeup is contoured and blended. But despite having fancier things and better taste as an adult, I never have felt more self assured than when I was 15 with my finger smudged makeup and baggy mallgoth gear sitting on a random curb doing absolutely nothing with my friends. Counting down the weeks leading up to the NIN show. Pissed because Orgy wasn't playing in your state. They were angsty, but great times. Seeing the throwback looks really makes me nostalgic. All except the bad poetry. That can stay dead and buried 20 years ago.
I wish I had red eyeshadow in the 90s/early 00s. We couldn't get it where I was at because the substance they used to create the red color was banned as toxic for eye cosmetics. Safe on lips, though. So, mall goths around my parts typically wore just black, but if they did color combos it was usually black/purple or black/reddish-brown.
Definitely saw a lot of black and purple looks myself! Interesting about the red eyeshadow though. I've found a lot of red is actually "pressed pigments" recently, as they don't recommend it for eyes due to staining! So apparently thats still a thing.
I really need to know where Lynn’s T-shirt from the beginning is from. It’s so cool! Also you guys did really well. I never grew up with mall goth style either or even much of a young alt kid scene but it looks pretty legit. I do like some of the mall goth style (It inspires me sometimes along with imagining goth bratz dolls) very well done. Can’t wait to see what style you both pull off next
The black sabbath tshirt? It's pretty old i'm not 100% sure where she got it sorry! And thank you! 🖤 We got a whole list of styles to get through in this series so there will be more!
Back when I was a mall goth (even though I didn't realize that's what I was until I actually became a real goth), Hot Topic was my favorite place to shop. TBH, If my city had a Hot Topic, I'd probably still shop there.
Ive always wanted to have alt styled edgy clothing and fashion but over here we dont have anything like Hot topic. We pretty are like Ireland. But now Ill overtime get more Alternative styled fashion. I love the style and now I can finally get to have my own style of mall goth
I think you guys did a great job pulling the look off. I was around for all that. I got into goth when I was 15 back in 98/99' . Definitely fun times for sure! I'd love to see a cybergoth look from you. Goggles, cyberlocks, fluffies and all. You just need Combichrist or God Module playing in the background. Stay spooky!🕸️🦇💀
Hahahaha mall goth. It makes me think of the goth kids I was freinds with in school in the 90s and early 2000s....the most misunderstood kids and with out question THE NICEST MOST LEGIT FREINDS I ever had
Omg this is EXACTLY how I *wanted* to dress as a teen (minus all the crazy face piercings), but couldn't because my folks weren't too crazy about all of that. So I basically had to do with just the black eyeliner and band tees from Hot Topic that I could afford to get.
i love to see you guys being kind and appreciating the subculture. im not personally mallgoth but it is sad to see people so angry about the way people dress.
So I can say, having been there, that Lynn's makeup looks like an acquaintance of mine who STILL does her face like that in 2023. She's a local dj. Never fully grew up I guess. Good for her tbh
I would love to see you guys in hi-art goth or early 20th century goth. Alexander McQueen was a genius at these type of styles. Your interpretation would be interesting 🤔
From a former mall goth- your makeup was way too good. Both of you lol. Gotta kind of make it suck. I’m kidding, but really your makeup was way too good for what we did. Our makeup in the 90s was awful, but we were working with nothing. Brands had nothing, it was so hard just to find a truly black eyeliner. We used to light it on fire just to get it to melt and become a truer black. Le sigh. Times was hard man. Times was hard. The outfits though.. killed it 😂 NAILED IT.
Awh thank you so much! Omg I remember melting eyeliner back in the day actually! So awful! We're very luck nowadays to have the options makeup wise. But with how little there was back then people still did an amazing job!
Really fun and from what I can see, you did a great job :) My only request would be if you would consider doing the reveal in more daylight as it's hard to see the whole outfit in the dark. I hope that doesn't sound wrong, I just want to see the outfits more clearly. It could be my monitor also. If you are up for it, I would love to see a Victorian Gothic style at some point. It's my favorite style and then Romantic. Great video and hope to see you again soon
No it's a very valid point. For this one i felt the dark bedroom added to the edginess. In the first video we used a greenscreen and lights etc to show it. So we're still working on a mix of things for the series. Would definitely love to catch some IRL footage of reveals in the future similar to how we did it for our Halloween GRWM. Also definitely going to be doing vampire and victorian goth in the future!
Ive always loved the alternative styles and wanted to have my own, but at the time only knew of everything being called goth and then i struggled to find out what alt style i if im not punk or goth. But now finally ive figured im closest to mall goth^^
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We went WAYYYY Mall goth.
When I was young in the 90s, our school had Goths & we called ourselves Barbie Goths. Instead of trad goth style, we used Malibu Barbie colors to be counter-counter looks. We used fake tans & blue eyeshadow like Barbie dolls had- but we thought we were cool to do our makeup like the trad Goths styles. I wish I had pics!
We were way into the Cure, NIN, slipknot, etc. We wore the same black pants & goth jewelry just with pops of Barbie doll colors.
It was strange being a goth in the USA in the late 90s.
That's absolutely amazing!!! I'm always trying to figure out how to do more Barbie Goth looks and trying to bring more color into my goth fashion! Would love to see some pictures if you do find any! 💕🦇🖤- Lynn
Yeah Barbie goth was a thing in canada too Canada just does everything weird were like America but we say aboot a lot and say Roooof instead of roof almost like your a dog barking.
oohhh sort of like rokku gyaru??? coolll
I’ve never heard of barbie Goth, that’s honestly super sick and smart.
back when when drowning pool released let the bodies hit the floor the "something's wrong with me" line came off as edgy but now as times passed as my body has changed i honestly sometimes wonder if something is wrong with me medically with the aches and pains.
😂 know the feeling!
It's called aging. 😂
Yeah I am all pitted out after like 2 songs now and I am soar for a week.
I’m a older millennial who grew up in a highly religious family so I made do with black shirts and messy black shadow (until they got taken away) now I’m reclaiming my own identity and style again and it is so freeing and honestly I love all the new little baby bats showing up! Life is too short not to try things out at least once or discover who you are!
Hell yeah ❤❤❤
Wow Conor! You kill'd it with the hair. The look is so accurate 💀🖤
Thanks I hate it! 😅🖤
The hair on Connor is so MallGoth! Lynn you are always beautiful.
Thank you! I knew the sacrifice i had to make to look more authentic but I will NEVER wear that hair again 🤣
Yeah she is hoging all the good looks from the rest of us share damn it lmfao so funny
Early 00s Irish Mall goth here...we wore the coal chamber tshirts, the fishnets, the eyeliner, the multicoloured hair and spikes in all of our piercings. And in the back arse of Laois 😅 I'd give anything for my 22" wide leg criminal damage jeans back, with the discman in the leg pocket 😂 this was a great trip down memory lane....cheers! 🤘
Having grown up in this era, you guys smashed it! Manchester was full of mall goths ( spooky kids or moshers as we were called back then) hanging around afflecks and urbis. It began with manson in the late 90s and exploded with the murderdolls in the early 2000s.
Funny you mention that because in Dublin we have tons of young mall goths emerging nowadays despite never having them during the original wave. But when we went to Manchester recently we saw tons of alternative people but not as many mall goths! Maybe because you already had it! Also Afflecks 🖤
I am 43 now and I would have been considered a mall goth as an Australian around 97-2000 (eventually exploring punk and eventually just casual goth ever since). I remember as a teen, we didn’t (couldn’t afford) brushes, so I used to use cheap black eye shadow as a base for eyes, then apply a thick layer of black eye pencil and smudge it. There was little blending, but messy, which I loved. Then I would use dark red lipstick and like it with black eye liner, and smudge that a little in the lip line. I did have kind of thinner eye brows but mine were just in its natural shape.
Okay, I'm lowkey obsessed with these looks
Thanks! Tbh I'm gonna wear that outfit again but with less edgy hair haha
@@RandomGothCouple Yussss, do it!
I love this! Here in America, the whole Mall Goth thing sort of kicked off with the other Goths wanting to distance themselves from Manson after Columbine (because as someone who was Goth AND a Manson fan in 1999 in school where I was always getting attacked for being a weirdo anyway, shit got real very quickly in terms of how we were treated and I get it....All Goths went through a hard time at school anyway. Adding to it the whole school asking you on a regular basis if you were in the "trench coat mafia" and fully acting afraid if a teacher caught y'all fighting when they started it just so YOU would be the one to blame for it...violent Goths and all🙄....it was just worse after Columbine and they did't want the added hassle). So in that attempt to distance themselves from the Goths people would associate with Manson (Mall Goths, mainly, but pre-Columbine, everyone who was Goth was associated with him simply because he had mainstreamed and even preps knew his look and who he was). The was around the time the rest of the Goths started pretending they did not listen to Manson (while doing it in secretly), again, trying to distance themselves.
I personally did not like the style but I could never find Goth clothes to fit me except JNCO's (which I did love then and I still love now and I will get a new pair of at some point) and rock tee shirts (or black tanktops in the summer) so those were the clothes I wore unless I found a cool black dress at the thrift store or something. I did have the skinny eyebrows (my sister, who is 27 to my 36, is STILL trying to get me to give up my skinny brows and I am trying...but it's hard...lmao). But the music I like was always traditional Goth and I still feel that I am a traditional Goth who was just mistaken for a Mall Goth back in the day. I was poor so I couldn't afford makeup from places like Hot Topic. As a result, desperate times called for desperate measures. lmao I would buy as much black lipstick and those Halloween makeup pallets from WalMart at Halloween time and that is what I used. We could not really get black lipstick in a regular store and I don't remember any standard Maybelline type eyeshadow pallets having black in them back then. So I would often wear the darkest brown I could get with the white clown makeup from the Halloween pallet as a foundation...it looked about as well as you could imagine. 😂😂😂 I wore a literal black dog collar with spikes (which my then five year old sister swiped one day and put on at school prompting a stern call from the school secretary to come and get it immediate...lmao) and I wore spiked bracelets and band necklaces and hoop earrings. And I STILL wear black boots (although my bones are no longer young so the heel is substantially smaller) and I always had long dark brown (and when I was 15 it became blue black...the color I still use to cover all of my white hair...lol) hair that I just wore down my back. I am no hair stylist. lol Like I said, to me, I was traditional goth in every way EXCEPT my clothes (and being a Manson fan of course...lmao) which got me lumped in with Mall Goths always. lmao
I love these trips down memory land and I think you both did great with the looks. I think your Trad Goth video was great too. This is probably one of my favorite Goth channels, honestly, because you two have a great vibe. 😊
Amazing insights into the time period thank you! We definitely felt the struggle even in the 2000s (Ireland is generally 10-20 years behind the rest of the world but we're getting better lately) and had to raid the halloween section for year round makeup and accessories!
Glad you liked the video, thank you 🦇🖤
@@RandomGothCouple Could you imagine trying to explain to the baby bats nowadays, the process of spending a month buying up Halloween makeup and nail polish to be Goth all year long? They not only only have access to all of the clothing and makeup they could want but also videos that teach them how to apply the makeup. We were a damn mess. 😂 But it was fun, though, the experimentation of it all. In that way I feel we were very lucky.
I was a baby bat in the early 2000. I use to have a pair of Tripp Pants and a pair of Jnco Jeans. Great video guys.
What I would give for a 50inch pair of Jnco Jeans right now honestly, might have to do a video on them!
The counting with Let the bodies hit the floor had me smiling big time! Great job you two!
Thank you! I was pretty proud of that joke not gonna lie haha
Aside from the white foundation, perfect mallgoths!
Source: Former mallgoth
I was thinking the same, only bcs finding white foundation would only happen during Halloween 😂 and my parents already would lose their sh*t with my makeup, let alone having a white foundation
Good times. It's like looking at a portal from the past. Thank you guys.
Glad to hear that! Thanks for watching and commenting 🖤🦇
Honestly I just appreciate how open you guys are to different Goth and Alternative sub-cultures. Growing up in the 80s and 90s I was always on the fringe between Punk and Goth but had very little access to the clothing. I had a generally looked more punk because that was an easier aesthetic to do with the resources I had but I listed to both Goth and Punk music and definitely preferred the Goth aesthetic, including the Mall Goths and Spooky Kids.
I love mall goths they are so unique and that is what I like about them because for me they’re not quite fully Goth but also they are Goth they got a mixture of every alternative culture out there and I love that respect to mall goths
I actually agree with you here, Mall Goth was like a melting pot of so many different styles its like the culmination of years of counter culture in one!
@@RandomGothCouple I absolutely love the way mall goth looks it is amazing
I love mall goth too and am so happy to finally know what type of goth style i was looking for
@@Zeagods-CyberShadow that’s Great 😃
This is like a hybrid between that Corey Taylor mask and korn, I had no idea this style was mall goth, I thought Connor’s usual look was mall goth, great video!
If we're being 100% honest most of my daily looks are pretty mall goth haha thank you! 👻
You both have executed the look brilliantly and your humour is legendary 🥀🖤
Thank you so much 🦇
I love how you guys aren't snobbish when it comes to other subs of the goth subculture.
I think you pulled it off beautifully Conor, also, next time I think it would be cute to see you guys try on like a cybergoth look maybe
Definitely want to do Cyber Goth in this series! We already have the goggles! Just need the pants and the dreads! Thank you! 🦇
COAL CHAMBER! I just saw them in concert the other night. They sounded just like they did back in the day.
You nailed the mall goth look. Love the makeup and hair on you both. Nice razor blade bag too. (Jan Griffiths).
Dope 👌🏿🧛🏿♂️.
Thank youuu 🖤🦇
These looks are great! Love the spikes on the nose and under the lip, you both killed it! Also the editing is 10/10
Thank you! Might have to start adding the spikes more often, really liked the nose one! Also glad you liked it, hit a good rhythm editing lately and I feel like its improved!
Conor and Lynn dolls coming soon to a toy store near you… 😂 had to love them though. Does feel like there was quite a cross over between mall goth and maybe a toned down cyber goth? Just need to add the dreads and you are half way there
Absolutely terrifying! 😂 Would love to own some one day though! Yeah similar shapes for sure! We have a lot of preparing to do for the Cyber Goth look 💀
Former 90s teen here! I loved this! You both did a great job! :)
A few FAQ (from what I can remember):
- Mallgoth wasn't an actual subculture back then. It was this amorphic cultural phenomenon among the spooky teens of the era (circa 1994 - 2004).
- No one used the term back then (that came later when the movement started to die off and emo took over for the next generation).
- This was the 'labels are for soup cans' era. People would get SUPER angry if you tried to label them anything other than an 'individual'.
- I'd say that 'mallgoth' started around 1994 when "Portrait of an American Family' came out. MM's influence was HUGE.
- In America, "Mallgoths" were just the baby bats of the 90s. Age and access was the only difference between "mallgoths" and the Goths hanging out in Goth Clubs.
- Truth is, all spooky weird teens circa the 90s and early 2000s were "Mallgoths". We all listened to stuff like KMFDM or Slipknot because that's what MTV and the local alternative radio stations played.
- Hot Topic was great because it was accessible. HT sold the same clothing brands advertised in Goth magazines like Carpe Noctem and Gothic Beauty.
- Most "mallgoths" in America weren't that elaborate. Most of us were heavily restricted in how we could dress and made due with what he had. The photos Gen Z post on their "Mallgoth Tumblr Blogs" only show the over the top examples. But they were rare.
Holy hell she looks like one of my exes from that era down to a T. Well that was some interesting flash backs for sure now hahaha.
Wow, you both nailed this look! Conor's hair is perfect & Lynn looks stunning as always.
Such an iconic look on you both.
Thanks so much 🖤🦇
I felt so called out when you talked about doing a Queen of the Damned marathon !
LIsten we are ALWAYS down for a Queen of the Damned marathon 🧛🏻♂️🧛🏻♀️
Conor nailed this. Lynn looks great as well. Have to say living thru this I realize the make up we had sucked compared to now.
Thanks Ronald. We are pretty blessed in the cosmetics world nowadays, I remember doing my entire makeup back in the day with a red eyeliner pencil and a black eyeliner pencil and that was it!
I live in NY and was a literal child during the mall goth era. But I remember seeing them in droves at the mall in the early 2000s. I used to stare at them while sitting in the stroller and thinking to myself, "that's what I'm going to be when I get older" and then my mom would turn my stroller around to face the opposite direction and tell me "not to stare at the Satanists." I also remember the term "mall goth" still being considered a pejorative term a few years later when I actually did start being a goth as a tween.
When I was a teenager in the malls of the american south west, I called myself a punk, but I wore red and black lipstick on my eyes and sharpie permanent marker on my lips.. Spiked my hair crazy with Elmer's school glue and spraypaint.. Wore black trenchcoats, bandshirts, handmade bondagepants, black shorts with ripped up striped tights and knee high combat boots..
I still have lots of piercings, used to wear chains in my face a lot as well.. Oh, the late 90s..💚
I have an interesting story. I desired deeply to dress Goth as early as 12, I was terrified of my parents though as they hated Goths and often laughed at and mocked them on TV. This was all the way back in the early 2000s. The bands that introduced me to the fashion were Skinny Puppy and, to a lesser extent, the scene surrounding Type O Negative. My gateway into all of this was through an old 90s game called Descent 2 which had both these artists on its ost. When my parents divorced four years later I had already developed a solid taste in music. I began dressing Goth I would say my second or third year in high school. I consumed a wide variety of music around this time because I was into playing instruments back then. The bands that I really developed a fond for were mainly Killing Joke, an old band called Throbbing Gristle, Darkthrone, an obscure band known as Shape of Despair, Front Line Assembly and, during my senior year, a little known band called Red Flag (Fear of a Red Planet being my favourite album by them). I was also somewhat into the gabber/Hardcore music of Delta9 around this same time which inspired some of the music in a band I was in. I was a huge listener of Skinny Puppy and Type O Negative for a long time and still listen to them a lot as an adult. As a teen in the 2000s I looked down on a lot of trends, styles and music. I didn't like emos or the music because it looked pretty and sounded like little kids stuff to me. I had no idea what a mallgoth was back then and had never even heard the term until a couple of years ago after my 31st birthday. I did however have a word I often used to describe "goths" who listened to Marilyn Manson, Korn and My Chemical Romance, it was Mallcore Kids. Mallcore being the music and Mallcore Kids being the scene. I lived in a small town going to a small town high school when I was a teen so I had no chance to check out Alt Stores. I often got creative because all my mother would buy me was black sweaters, black jeans, black shirts and this underwear with skulls and bones on them. Barely got to wear metallic items, chains or goth style belts. Had a lot of black eyeliner but I had to sneak it from my mother's bedroom. I never got to dye my hair either sadly.
I never really liked bands like Disturbed, Slipknot, Mudvayne or Evanescence and I thought Linkin Park was tasteless music. Slipknot I had never actually heard of until my senior year in high school. Mudvayne came to me way later like my mid 20s. All these bands had real ugly scenes from what I heard. I had a bad tendency also to idolize Trent Reznor around the mid 2000s and tried to copy his most Gothic fashion style as much as I could sometimes. Pretty much the whole Nu Metal world made me gag as a teen and never really found any Goths in my high school. It was all metalheads, gangster kids, and the odd emos.
I knew what Hot Topic was when I was a teen but didn't like it because I thought it was a store for Emo Kids. Even if I did want to go to Hot Topic I couldn't because it didn't exist in Canada at the time. I went to a Hot Topic store in Winnipeg a couple of years ago and still didn't like it because not a lot of the cool clothes from there fit me. I guess it's mostly clothes catering to young kids. My clothing style, when I moved out, became much more obvious. When I entered into my 20s I started to blend small elements of Punk into my Goth style. Mainly because as I got older I got introduced to stuff like Sisters of Mercy, The Misfits and Circle Jerks. Almost all the clothes I wore when I wasn't working or going to formal events were modified by me or given to me by peers. Much of these clothes were bought from general clothing vendors or thrift stores. Throughout my early to mid 20s I owned a pair of black Gortex combat boots. Those things lasted a long time and I often miss those boots. The first Goth club I ever attended was when I was 19 at a place in Montreal called the Katacombs. I had a lot of buds that went there during nights like that and really enjoyed it. I wouldn't really start attending Goth clubs regularly until 2022 a year after I moved to Winnipeg. At the time I was working for a kitchen at a hotel chain near the downtown area. Was and still am excited whenever Goth related events happen here.
Often I like to decorate my place with dark objects. I also sometimes like to collect obscure anime dealing with Gothic Horror. Well work is as the same and boring as ever. My main hobbies are mostly computer code related stuff, which I've been into for decades, and reading lots.
Conor's comment at 18:12 👏🤣Nailed the looks, guys! 👏🖤🦇
Thanks Johnny! Catch me opening for the the band opening for coal chamber at a show near you soon 🤣
I was a mall goth back in middle school in 2002. I also shopped at Torrid because it had plus-size women's clothing. I would use red blush for my eyeshadow lol. Good memories.
Omg thank you! I was struggling to remember the name, I knew Hot Topic had launched another store! The original Torrid was quite edgy from pictures i've seen! Good call on the blush! Thats thinking outside the box!
@@RandomGothCouple You’re welcome! Yes it was a lot edgy back in the day. It was pretty much like Hot Topic. Just plus sized. 😊
Sounds like Mall goth made it way more accessible for kids to get into the style that they had probably only seen in music videos or magazines. Seems crazy to me that there were people who saw that & thought 'poser' rather than 'now I can look the way I want to look'. I definitely would have been one of those kids, if my parents actually let me, back then lol
Definitely, it was accessible and affordable for them to finally dress in a way they wanted. I think the scene did them a bit of injustice by mocking them instead of embracing and nurturing their interest in it. But elitists gonna elite!
@@RandomGothCouple True that!
Ahhh, now this is the Goth I grew up with. Late 90's and Early 2000's were sooooo good. Nailed it Conor!
totally 90s Nu Metal Goth style also in germany. MTV inspired looks we searched out of normal clothes shops. Also coming out of the skater scene here.
Mtv was the biggest exposure we had to it here but unfortunately our clothing stores were always 10 yeas behind the rest of the world! Interesting, seems like the skater scene was very much entangled with mall goth!
I was 13 in 2007. We had a strong scene happening at my local mall, it had a grassy area outside. It was actually so good though - skaters, a few punks, nu metal kids, goths, lots of emos and spooky kids just hanging out talking about music, school, life stuff. It was also a good meeting point before we went elsewhere too. Lasted for about 3 year's before it was shut down because too many people in the community complained it was dangerous. It really wasn't. I think they just didn't like the alt people loitering there.
You two look great! I like this more than the trad goth. Can't wait for the next series installment. ❤🖤
You both look great! But Connor you NAILED it! 😂❤
THE HAIR. The videos just keep improving
Thank you! The hair tho 😂
I worked at a goth boutique in Chicago no longer in business called Medusa’s Circle for a few years before Hot Topic opened. Hot topics was hiring goth designers I knew and taking off the artists designer label to sew Hot Topic label over it! I miss SHOES for sale in store because during the mall Goth stage of Hot topic, they actually sold reasonable cool shoes you could try on! My friends and I during that period just went Siousxie crazed with our make up. We had a lot of fake hair we stuck in or got synthetic lavender extensions in our black dreadlock extension hair. GOOD Times!🧛♀️
Chicago used to sell amazing underground gothic clothing and platform shoes. Those were great times indeed.
I hear Chicago had a really decent alt scene back in the day. The alley is still going to this day right? Sounds like it was amazing back in its prime! And yes I saw from their archived website they had a lot of really great shoes for reasonable prices! Always interested to hear what/who inspired peoples make up looks back then too! Thank you!
@@RandomGothCouple it's possible with our cemetery walks and dark music we listen to, it's spirit and the darkness of the night that envelops us as we bathe in moonlight that inspires the make up and clothes we wear. This "dark" life also creates comfort and happiness with in a goth's life as we sit in the veil between worlds to observe.
DUDE a year?! omg time flies but this was what i was waiting forrrr
I know right? Hopefully not as long as a wait for the next one 😂😂
I loooove this so much! You both really nailed it! I was definitely a mix of emo, mall goth, and later scene kid in the early 00s. 😅😊❤ I had several piercings and spiked belts and so many chains my high school said they were hazardous and made me remove them from my tripp pants while on school property.
I’m dying to know what these 2 do professionally. They have to pay for this stuff some how. Love em!!
You both did an amazing job at the Mall Goth and I agree with Conor, his original hair would look so much better 🖤🦇
Thanks Paul! Wish I'd taken ONE picture before I did the nu metal hair haha
I went to HS in upper MN (Im half Ojibwe half Scandanavian) and graduated in 1998! Mall goth was BIG right around and just after 1996 when I started de-conforming, and while I did not consider myself anything at first I still wore a couple pair of those giant JNCO pants, LOVED KORN and Marilyn Manson, shaved my long hair into only bangs and long eartails and tried to dye it blue (it ended up just being green in the light since my hair is naturally very dark, my senior pics were NOT to my family's liking lol) then later the TRIPP skinny bondage pants!! Oh, also the loooong chain wallets, or sometimes the thin metal ball-chains! Originally the term 'SKATER' was applied to anyone supposedly alternative looking, especially with the giant legged jeans, because a smallish crowd of 'goth' had come and gone so quietly.. So, as a 'crust punk' or just punk, as a very new term to the area, I TOTALLY felt as though I had found who I truly was! POSER was a HUGE derogitory term at the time, and I heard the term, and many other sort of bygone terms, every day. It felt so awesome for a littlewhile! I was doing the red eyeshadow, but it was more of an almost coral, blended in all around the eye. No foundation. Eventually it became that we were supposed to wear makeup at all. Then, when we as women tried to stand up for equality, unity, peace, we were deemed 'feminazi'. It seemed as though if we didnt like bands that were SO underground that no one knew of them, or appreciated bands like Crass or what was then called Ska or pop punk like Op Ivy or god forbid Rancid, then we were def NOT PUNK. What started as fun and great times swiftly devolved into being no one was as punk as those that could display no emotion, hate on everyone else for the stupidest if reasons, consumed the least, ignored everything that made them happy, or enjoyed absolutely anything that anyone else ever enjoyed. I wish a supportive, more open minded and free-er thinking group had been available then! It took me a while to get over the mindset that these A holes had tried to hammer into our heads. Point is, its tough to find who you are on the inside at such a young age, AND on the outside. For those of us that were banded together by our differences to the majority, I am glad that we are able to dress and think and live how we feel is best for ourselves now, even though it still feels like we are that young teen being looked down on sometimes. I enjoy your content because you do what makes YOU BOTH happy, and put it out there, and speak to those of us who have had similar situations surrounding our looks or taste in music. Thank you! Even though we ran with different groups, seemingly, we understand the struggles and they JOY!
I love this series so much please make more of these! I think if you’d do a cybergoth video, you both could help baby bats find the subgenre. Also very excited for deathrock please!
If I can go my entire life without Jnco jeans never making a comeback, I will die happy.
You both looked amazing! Very Roadrunner Records aesthetic...like...1998..."Drilling the Vein" VHS tape...purchased on a Saturday afternoon from a city centre HMV vibes 🤘😜
You nailed the nostalgia so perfectly in just one sentence. Thank you 👻
We had exactly one club that did anything goth (goth & disco night once a week). EDM was a bigger scene so most of us in the 90s just wore band shirts and baggy jeans with holes in legs. There were a handful that looked like you 2 but they were actually picked on as "try hards" lol. We were a weird bunch. Hell, I even got (lightly) picked on for being more into industrial and zombie movies instead of goth and vampires. Kinda miss it though lol
I mean at least you had a weekly night! Here in 2023 we still only get monthly, if even! I think MOST mall goths got picked on as try hards to be fair! Ah the nostalgia though
Love the 2000s nostalgia!
I was 9-10 around 1999 and 2000, so I got into Mall goth a bit late. But I did enjoy those bands and fashion senses. I got into Goth Generally in 2004-05 when I was a freshman in High School. I repped the Marilyn Manson striped Spooky Kids look a long time. I kinda changed it into a diff look recently. I never really stopped until the Allegations came around. But then, with the recent bombshell news I just changed it and went back in. I didn't even know Tiktok is doing the Mall Goth stuff. That's fun.
I used to use the "Ice Black" stuff at a hair salons too. I have naturally dirty red hair and made It red and black or blue at times. and the bangs def had to be "Prongs" like a lot of guys do.
Def subscribed now.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! Wow you also reminded me yes there were those coloured gels you could get to style your hair. I remember getting a red one and using it to spike up my hair as a tween haha thank you!
My 3rd (born in 1989) son's nick name was Tacklebox because of his face piercings and gages. I had to sign for his piercings to be done. He wouldn't let me do it like we did in the punk days with safety pins and ice cubes. I love the memories that you have me thinking about with my teen goth child. I snuck to listen to the Sex Pistols as a teen. I'm now the grandma that wears a lot of black lol and likes creepy spooky things.
Thats amazing and so cool that you were so supportive! Wish all moms were as cool as you! Glad the video brought up nice memories for you! 🖤
Its good to see people reviving and trying out the style!
I used to do my lips by moisturizing with a thin layer of aquaphor, really rub it in, then have a liner that was 1 shade darker than my initial lip to section shapes and lip crevices, then use the initial color to fill, use a napkin or folded moist paper towel to blot off or pat extra, then do a final layer to seal off. Works great for alt folks with thicker or wider lips .
Thanks for the advice, i'll definitely try that out because I constantly struggle with lipstick because i've thick lips!
Oh watching you do your water lines is sending me back in time.
I remember this in the 90s and early 2000's it even carried into the metal scenes for mid 2000's also. I remember seeing this look a lot at metal shows throughout those times. Ah good times in terms of memory, but the social issues that came with it were not. The hair had me rolling, but it was the look and you nailed it. Outfit without the hair seems like it was actually something that would work well in every day wear in the goth styles.
Love you guys ❤❤❤❤
Thank you so much 🖤🖤🖤🖤
I grew up in a small town in the US Midwest in the late 90s and early 00s, and I definitely was the quintessential small town goth kid. I even worked at Hot Topic from 2004-2005, I saw it all. It's fun to see people throwing back to this style! One thing that is different in the recreations of the style is the precision and updated makeup techniques. We didn't use any of that! No one had brushes, blended, or contoured. Your makeup would've been a drug store foundation, Manic Panic white out powder, a crappy crayon eyeliner, and Hot Topic brand Morbid powder eyeshadow applied with your finger. Smudge things around with your finger around your eyes for that extra special dreadful look, and you're out the door to go be weird in public with your friends. I wasn't into the Tripp pants with chains, but I definitely had super wide leg black Tripp pants, a band shirt, collar, and trench coat with long black hair as my daily look. Today, well into my mid 30s, I still am more or less a goth/rivethead, and it's funny because for decades I've collected much nicer clothes and footwear than I wore back then. When I go out to a show or to the club, my makeup is contoured and blended. But despite having fancier things and better taste as an adult, I never have felt more self assured than when I was 15 with my finger smudged makeup and baggy mallgoth gear sitting on a random curb doing absolutely nothing with my friends. Counting down the weeks leading up to the NIN show. Pissed because Orgy wasn't playing in your state. They were angsty, but great times. Seeing the throwback looks really makes me nostalgic.
All except the bad poetry. That can stay dead and buried 20 years ago.
I wish I had red eyeshadow in the 90s/early 00s. We couldn't get it where I was at because the substance they used to create the red color was banned as toxic for eye cosmetics. Safe on lips, though. So, mall goths around my parts typically wore just black, but if they did color combos it was usually black/purple or black/reddish-brown.
Definitely saw a lot of black and purple looks myself! Interesting about the red eyeshadow though. I've found a lot of red is actually "pressed pigments" recently, as they don't recommend it for eyes due to staining! So apparently thats still a thing.
I love what the kids are doing. :)
Im digging the background music
This took me straight back to my early teens 😂 beautiful job here.
Omg YES I love the Super intense lipstick time! Omg I died laughing!
The only time either of us ever shut up 😂
slayed I think
💅 thank youu
Love!!! I miss being a teenager and hanging out at Hot Topic. Good times haha
Conor!!! Your hair is perfection!!!😊
I really need to know where Lynn’s T-shirt from the beginning is from. It’s so cool! Also you guys did really well. I never grew up with mall goth style either or even much of a young alt kid scene but it looks pretty legit. I do like some of the mall goth style (It inspires me sometimes along with imagining goth bratz dolls) very well done. Can’t wait to see what style you both pull off next
The black sabbath tshirt? It's pretty old i'm not 100% sure where she got it sorry! And thank you! 🖤 We got a whole list of styles to get through in this series so there will be more!
Lynn here! I got it from Primark/ Penny's years ago
Back when I was a mall goth (even though I didn't realize that's what I was until I actually became a real goth), Hot Topic was my favorite place to shop. TBH, If my city had a Hot Topic, I'd probably still shop there.
Everytime we are in the US we hit up a few hot topics, they're great for accessories and occasionally some good band tees!
Yet to see the final look, but I love these eyebrows on Lynn already 13:09 !
After all that she covered them with her fringe 😤
Ive always wanted to have alt styled edgy clothing and fashion but over here we dont have anything like Hot topic. We pretty are like Ireland. But now Ill overtime get more Alternative styled fashion. I love the style and now I can finally get to have my own style of mall goth
I frickin LOVE yoyr mall goth looks!!! I was a teen in the late 90s, and this was the thing!
Loving the hair ❤
Agree to disagree but thank you 😅
Super early to my fav Goth couple from across the pond!
I adore your videos!❤❤❤
Woo you are first! Thank you so much for your support 🖤🦇🖤
I think you guys did a great job pulling the look off. I was around for all that. I got into goth when I was 15 back in 98/99' . Definitely fun times for sure! I'd love to see a cybergoth look from you. Goggles, cyberlocks, fluffies and all. You just need Combichrist or God Module playing in the background. Stay spooky!🕸️🦇💀
We definitely need to do a cybergoth episode in this series! Just need to source some outrageous pants! We already have the goggles! haha
Hahahaha mall goth. It makes me think of the goth kids I was freinds with in school in the 90s and early 2000s....the most misunderstood kids and with out question THE NICEST MOST LEGIT FREINDS I ever had
I'm not goth but I appreciate this well done. Would be cool to see you both thrift for a look
Coming very soon! We have been working on one for awhile now!
Omg this is EXACTLY how I *wanted* to dress as a teen (minus all the crazy face piercings), but couldn't because my folks weren't too crazy about all of that. So I basically had to do with just the black eyeliner and band tees from Hot Topic that I could afford to get.
Thank You Random Goth Couple!!
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I cant wait to see this, I was 14 in 1999 so...BRING IT ON!!😂😂❤
i love to see you guys being kind and appreciating the subculture. im not personally mallgoth but it is sad to see people so angry about the way people dress.
You guys replicated the looks very well 🖤🦇
Thank you 🖤🦇
Oh, my god, that hair! The jokes from this are so good.
takes me back
The late 90s and early 2000s were a bit magical in their own way. Felt like alternative culture and metal was really HUGE at the time
When I was in high school I was a mall goth, now I'm true goth because I love the music.
So I can say, having been there, that Lynn's makeup looks like an acquaintance of mine who STILL does her face like that in 2023. She's a local dj. Never fully grew up I guess. Good for her tbh
The energies cemetaries have is antique, malls goth i feel for the baby bats that are in school or is still young.
M8ght go to the mall to see the pircing stock or something, the cloth size is teen size for sure!
From a girl who was walking around Denver malls in 99, this took me back! So funny this all popped up again. Good job.
You both suit the look but Lynn in particular looks really pretty.
i love these videos so much! even though it isnt a goth subculture, i would love to see an emo/scene style makeover !! 🤘
We will put that on the list for the next one! So excited to see emo Conor 😂😂
😂😂 I love the looks!!! You guys made me feel 14 years old again 😆 #Nostalgia throwback for sure!! ❤🖤❤🖤
For a minute it felt like the early 2000s again for us too haha thank you, so glad you liked it 🦇
you both did an amazing job for real dx🙏🏿 you should maybe do Emo next? maybe idk XDDD 🙏🏿👽🙏🏿
Lots of requests for emo! Might have to bump it up the list!
You did great!!!!
I would love to see you guys in hi-art goth or early 20th century goth. Alexander McQueen was a genius at these type of styles. Your interpretation would be interesting 🤔
I'll add it to the list for future videos! Although the budget on that one might be a little high! haha
@@RandomGothCouplelol or perhaps Edwardian instead if thats more achievable 🤔
From a former mall goth- your makeup was way too good. Both of you lol. Gotta kind of make it suck. I’m kidding, but really your makeup was way too good for what we did. Our makeup in the 90s was awful, but we were working with nothing. Brands had nothing, it was so hard just to find a truly black eyeliner. We used to light it on fire just to get it to melt and become a truer black. Le sigh. Times was hard man. Times was hard. The outfits though.. killed it 😂 NAILED IT.
Awh thank you so much! Omg I remember melting eyeliner back in the day actually! So awful! We're very luck nowadays to have the options makeup wise. But with how little there was back then people still did an amazing job!
I wrote a similar thing.
Wow. That is the best transformation I’ve ever seen. 🖤🤘🏻💀
fantastic - love it !!!! 🥰😍🥰🧛🧛♂🧛♀
Thank you!!! 💀
Really fun and from what I can see, you did a great job :) My only request would be if you would consider doing the reveal in more daylight as it's hard to see the whole outfit in the dark. I hope that doesn't sound wrong, I just want to see the outfits more clearly. It could be my monitor also. If you are up for it, I would love to see a Victorian Gothic style at some point. It's my favorite style and then Romantic. Great video and hope to see you again soon
No it's a very valid point. For this one i felt the dark bedroom added to the edginess. In the first video we used a greenscreen and lights etc to show it. So we're still working on a mix of things for the series. Would definitely love to catch some IRL footage of reveals in the future similar to how we did it for our Halloween GRWM.
Also definitely going to be doing vampire and victorian goth in the future!
@@RandomGothCouple ;) :)
Lynn, it doesn’t matter what you do. You are still beautiful! I actually like the thin brows on you! 🦇
Awww thank you!!🖤 I do like the thin brows! I will definitely try it out again
Ive always loved the alternative styles and wanted to have my own, but at the time only knew of everything being called goth and then i struggled to find out what alt style i if im not punk or goth. But now finally ive figured im closest to mall goth^^