I think Heen got a counter for the popular sven draft with the Veno + AA WK lanes which dominated laning phase and the dusa which is the late game win condition. Game 2, Heen drafted using the same concept, but ROTK was able to respond with the ES which helped VG in the early game. I suppose Heen didn't expect VG to find a way around his draft and had to ban out the sven again, and leave the warlock open which just add so much to VG's team fight and lane sustenance
I think if TNC got ES instead of letting it be used by VG, they would've won. Armel had the advantage vs Ori in the early game but Fade's ES kept on roaming mid. Also, Tims is one of the best users of earth spirit. And DS was the main solution vs AA, Veno and WK draft that TNC used in game 1. Sven didn't have any mobility to hit but having surge was all he needed to be able to close the distance to slug it out vs TNC's cores.
@@martin4484 I agree that taking es out of VG draft would have helped TNC greatly. But I doubt TNC would pick it, cos the way their lane work is static heroes who can zone out their opponents, not roamers who ganks to win the lane. But I wonder if Heen would have tried the same draft for game 3 but take es out of the draft and win with the same formula as game 1. But glad to see SEA playing some good games, Fnatic was really disappointing. Lots of good players but no teamwork. Hoping for an exciting TI
zhcterry But it’s better to get a roaming hero that would guarantee that Storm would have a better game than Sniper. That was what happening that’s why Fade had to roam to mid lane to make sure Ori has a good start but if he didn’t Storm would own that matchup. The only reason they picked ET was to help control Kuku’s lane but they could’ve sacrificed thar to ensure Storm’s good start and Sniper’s bad start, we all know how hard it is to come back as a Sniper when Storm’s around. Also, Tims could’ve helped Kuku every now and then and not stay in lane just like ET did.
@@martin4484 in that case it does sound pretty appealing. Sniper is really squishy early game too. I just didn't think TNC expected VG to come up with a counter, so they didn't feel a need to introduce a roaming hero into their draft. But I'm not sure why Heen didn't just roll with their original plan and banned out or pick the earth spirit in game 3
I watched bits of these games live and it was extremely frustrating. TNC had a stellar first game and then attempted the same strategy for the second one, except it didn't work because VG mixed up their draft a bit and picked up the Dark Seer, which meant Sven could actually do something. Tims played extremely well in all three games, but TNC seemed to struggle overall with supporting, especially with vision. Just look at the minimap at basically any point in any of the games - VG's wards were always set up ahead of time for where they wanted fight next, while TNC had precious little vision out much of the time. Their smokes were decisive and they knew exactly where to go. TNC seemed to be counter-warding the whole time - you can see these clusters of sentries all over the place - which means they were letting VG dictate the pace of the game. TNC's #3 draft was awful. I don't get why you'd have Centaur and ES together, especially when they have a Mars (four melee heroes into a line up that includes Mars, Troll and a scary Ori DP - blimey). There was little synergy with the Grimstroke and the Alchemist pick was weird. What was it supposed to achieve? Tims spent much of the laning phase helping out Alch, and Alch got massive while the rest of his team got eaten alive and got no help. Frustrating because they were out-drafted and outplayed, which is a shame because I've really been enjoying TNC this season - they've been an excellent team and are frequently exciting to watch.
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sa game 3 masyadong over confident ung alche sa octarine.. nag build muna sana sia ng bkb.. tapos nagpapa bait yung core na wala yatang bkb.. alche malakas sa early to mid game dapat sa kanya nakafocus ang atention ng team..
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I think Heen got a counter for the popular sven draft with the Veno + AA WK lanes which dominated laning phase and the dusa which is the late game win condition. Game 2, Heen drafted using the same concept, but ROTK was able to respond with the ES which helped VG in the early game. I suppose Heen didn't expect VG to find a way around his draft and had to ban out the sven again, and leave the warlock open which just add so much to VG's team fight and lane sustenance
I think if TNC got ES instead of letting it be used by VG, they would've won. Armel had the advantage vs Ori in the early game but Fade's ES kept on roaming mid. Also, Tims is one of the best users of earth spirit. And DS was the main solution vs AA, Veno and WK draft that TNC used in game 1. Sven didn't have any mobility to hit but having surge was all he needed to be able to close the distance to slug it out vs TNC's cores.
@@martin4484 I agree that taking es out of VG draft would have helped TNC greatly. But I doubt TNC would pick it, cos the way their lane work is static heroes who can zone out their opponents, not roamers who ganks to win the lane. But I wonder if Heen would have tried the same draft for game 3 but take es out of the draft and win with the same formula as game 1. But glad to see SEA playing some good games, Fnatic was really disappointing. Lots of good players but no teamwork. Hoping for an exciting TI
zhcterry But it’s better to get a roaming hero that would guarantee that Storm would have a better game than Sniper. That was what happening that’s why Fade had to roam to mid lane to make sure Ori has a good start but if he didn’t Storm would own that matchup. The only reason they picked ET was to help control Kuku’s lane but they could’ve sacrificed thar to ensure Storm’s good start and Sniper’s bad start, we all know how hard it is to come back as a Sniper when Storm’s around. Also, Tims could’ve helped Kuku every now and then and not stay in lane just like ET did.
@@martin4484 in that case it does sound pretty appealing. Sniper is really squishy early game too. I just didn't think TNC expected VG to come up with a counter, so they didn't feel a need to introduce a roaming hero into their draft. But I'm not sure why Heen didn't just roll with their original plan and banned out or pick the earth spirit in game 3
At least the casters were supporting TNC all game. lol
TNC is somehow getting better, at least they won game 1. However heen couldn’t help them more.
Did tims used echo first then blink? 37:17
saw that also
Delay animation. Watch gh es in epicenter 3 months ago ago, i thought the same
@@gm861 already watch different version of this fight, and saw that its just delayed animation
So the lesson is , stop spamming chat wheel XD
I watched bits of these games live and it was extremely frustrating. TNC had a stellar first game and then attempted the same strategy for the second one, except it didn't work because VG mixed up their draft a bit and picked up the Dark Seer, which meant Sven could actually do something.
Tims played extremely well in all three games, but TNC seemed to struggle overall with supporting, especially with vision. Just look at the minimap at basically any point in any of the games - VG's wards were always set up ahead of time for where they wanted fight next, while TNC had precious little vision out much of the time. Their smokes were decisive and they knew exactly where to go. TNC seemed to be counter-warding the whole time - you can see these clusters of sentries all over the place - which means they were letting VG dictate the pace of the game.
TNC's #3 draft was awful. I don't get why you'd have Centaur and ES together, especially when they have a Mars (four melee heroes into a line up that includes Mars, Troll and a scary Ori DP - blimey). There was little synergy with the Grimstroke and the Alchemist pick was weird. What was it supposed to achieve? Tims spent much of the laning phase helping out Alch, and Alch got massive while the rest of his team got eaten alive and got no help.
Frustrating because they were out-drafted and outplayed, which is a shame because I've really been enjoying TNC this season - they've been an excellent team and are frequently exciting to watch.
Archon analyzing dota match is weird asf
re-watching this game for the TI19...
0:01 name of the sountrack pls x4
rayling darude sandstrom
GolfAlphaMike funny ?
It is so sad to see alchemist team behind in net worth, or even equal at the 15-25 min mark...some teams are just not meant to pick alch...
"we cant always be kyle, i mean right" -tobiwan2019
Hd?
26:32 , the best comment😂
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
LAKAD MATABA!!! ARMELIN! ARMELIN! 😂
26:38 Ti10 chatwheel
same thought here
Hahaha
Pag talo ang dami na nilang pinupuna...
The chat wheel boys are silenced by VG.
Raf Antaran well said, Tnc is pinoy and pinoy is always cancer
@@mikechan31 but bigger dicks unlike chinese who has 2-inch average
ITS OK TNC !!! LETS WIN THE LOWER BRACKET !!! INDO PRIDEEEEEEE YES SIRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!
PUTA DAMING FEELING PRO DITO KAYO NALANG MAGLARO DIYAN?
Atleast they are highest in chatwheels.
30:45 Gabbi slow reaction. if it was Miracle, I'm sure he could've dodged with blade fury.
Ghedneil Dagalea just a weak carry afterall, cannot even compare to M-God
@@mikechan31 I agree. TNC should replace him with Abed if you ask me. Abed is getting wasted in Fnatic.
8:04 dam Tobi savage af
sayang wrong draft yung tnc sa game 3 tapos nag octarine pa si armel hindi bkb ... parang sinadya ata nila mag throw ..
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Whats wrong with kuku?? Azzzzzz
TnC done So Well Makikita nyo sa Gameplay Liquid Vs Vg Mas Magaling pa sila kaysa Liquid Straight Ahead Ewan ko kung nagpapahinga pa Sila.. WTF this People Thinking..Ang Gagaling Nyo Naman Kayu na!!
No one caught the Aragon reference? Okay.
last game fail draft from TNC... should need 2 disable supports !
sa game 3 masyadong over confident ung alche sa octarine.. nag build muna sana sia ng bkb.. tapos nagpapa bait yung core na wala yatang bkb.. alche malakas sa early to mid game dapat sa kanya nakafocus ang atention ng team..
nice echo slam for a tree Tims lol
Bon TNC is weak, nuf said
Max quality is only 360p
wait please for better quality, youtube processes video
Dapat naka ban talaga warlock sobrang kati talaga :( sayang Laban parin tnc kahit malupit kalaban nu sa lower bracket. Gudluck 😇😇
Its time to replace kuku..
i think you are right.
its gabbi that needs to be replaced frankly
Nah it's KUKU that needs replacing. He's been overrated for so long it needs to stop now
Kuku is thrash now he's not like the kuku before
he just need to realize that he needs to improve his pos 3 gameplay
Kapag nag feed c kuku gg tlga
The third game feels like the game was thrown by TNC look closely to their rotation and giving kills in early game
Mars arena is coming~
Im happy tnc enter simefinals however
Sofar tnc getting rest and waiting game finals
Goodjob tnc
Ignor people hit team
oh they're not out?
pasok sila
@@adrianevergara8594 your rght
@@jvanwhocares8633 nope
Okay lang yan may TI9 pa 🔥👊
Yung Mga Baszzerss Ito kayo oh why bakit wala kayu dyan gawa kaya kayu ng sarili nyong team tingnan natin kung aabut kayu sa LVL na na abut ng TNC
Tims for life
kuku stupid blink and stun on creeps with 5 heroes missing my god.... TNC please REMOVE Kuku in your ROOSTER
Tiktilaok
Ok lng yan pasok nmn sila sa ti9 #11 sila
feeder kuku
Nice:*
Intro boys tnc
May lower bracket pa mga hatets
Kuku the cursed
hi
Armel pilit inuuntog sarili sa ulti ng Mars
NICE! GO KAPPA!
Real talk. Ang PAPANGIT MGA PLAYERS NANG TNC. Name one na hindi pngit. Papabarang kp kayu
Bata
MGA WALA KAYONG KWENTA MGA TANGA
37:18 echo slam in the tree, how u expect a team like this to compete in TI? LOL
It was a delay animation watch team liquid gh doing that always
sayang naman pinag hirapan ganun lang kadali
Nag feed na naman kasi si kuku sa game 3. Wala rin kwenta centaur niya. Kay kuku lang talaga nawawala.
pero pag panalo puro ka idol haha
Aremel at tims idol ko jan.
Pake namin bobo
natulog lang ako natalo na..haha
Gg
VG - cheating ? autosilens ??
Lol..
haters gonna hate
VG paid kuku for game 3. 😂
Storm pa
Pause gaming
China number 1,
Storm pa more
Wala nang laro ang tnc guyz
mron pa
kim wellplayed sino kalaban tol?
Tncccc kami
Bashers at haters maingay!!!
Lot of bad decisions TNC 🤣😂
Asim sinigang kuku
Tnchoke..
Tnc pang barangay na laro lang. Yung bang poro bangag sa shabu ang mga naglalaro sa skwater na cafe
Ginagawa kasi ni kuku. Palitan na siya.
Ikaw na pumalit. Ang galing mo ehhh...
Tnc lose again ew
Indo pride hahaha
Kick kuku
Sad peenoise
choke at 3rd game tnc always
KuKu should go home first.
Yayabang kc sa game 1 eh
Puro yabang tnc haha talo nman
Hala another dilawan
@@chuckydenzo7672 hahahaha
i always expect pinoy team to lose, and tnc is no exception, undisciplined and weak. pinoys remain pinoy 🤦🏽♂️
Pota nag choke na namn tnc,
Tnc please please please STOP COMPETING DOTA 2. KUKU PARANG GUTOM NA RUGBY BOY
Hanggang Herald ka lang kasi, kawawa ka naman.