Yeah except for one detail... Why this game? Medium rated by most (70% , PLAYERS on Metacritic 64%), lots of players found it to be "light" in content and a bit clunky.. But "worst than most"? Actually, better than most, so why? The complaint among negative reviews? Like here, "bad controls". Most times I've seen that in a review, it translated into "don't understand/don't have the time/can't be bothered" which is a COMMON theme on worst games ever. They don't want to play the game in the first place so...?
@@jbarnhart2653 You are taking this far too serious. The show is only supposed to mock mediocre to downright awful games, even tho the mediocre entries might not be as bad as the likes of "Ride to Hell: Retribution" or "Miami Vice (PS2), etc. Actually, its just an excuse tp talk about games that would get no mentions anywhere whatsoever, and thats the case with Lair. Even tho TJ actually does a journalistic job bringing up data and info about reviews/critics/dev info/trivia, they never implied any pretention to prove themselves as hardcore/technical gamers. Its actually the opposite: That's brought up on several ocasions that they (especially Ben and Ashton) actually play some entries on easy. And from a POV of someone playing games daily as a job, its actually reasonable that they keep it on a casual level instead of try-harding games few people care about.
Worst games ever Name Ben Height 12 parsecs Role games victim Alias ben Kenobi Special fact formally known as obi wan potter Name peter Height 1 parsec Role games master Alias peter skywalker Special fact was betrayed and murdered by Darth Austin
I only ever get the MBMBaM references Ben makes. But they're so subtle and spread out that most people probably don't realize that they are references at all.
I'm just waiting for them to get that one hit video that earns em a few million views. Also, how much funding is needed to bring the special facts back? :P
Worst part about this game is that they've patched the horrid Sixaxis controls out, but you still can't play it with a PS2 controller because they forgot to assign a button to one single action needed to complete the tutorial. Yes, you can use a PS2 controller on a PS3 with any cheapo USB adapter. Don't ask.
I played this game, after the first few levels you have to do a stealth mission. Imagine using the sixaxis controls in a mission where you to avoid huge headlights, because when one of them catches you, you had to restart.
I remember enjoying Lair up until the level with the spotlights. Edit: I also played it before they patched in the analogue stick controls so I had no choice but to use the sixaxis
This game as a concept seems cool, and would be something I could get into if it were much, MUCH better executed. Flying over a stronghold, blowing shit up and then landing on a dragon to kill battalions of armored knights. It just really blows in its execution. I like the criticism Peter brings up on some of these games, that it feels like the devs had the things they wanted, and got them done but didn't actually do them justice.
I remember my Dad wanted this game in the early PS3 days, bought it for him and it resulted in me playing the whole thing for him. Dragon games have not been doing so well. Look at Eragon and Scalebound.
@@ffffdsd He was a video gamer from when I was a baby and to that timeframe (Not so much in recent years). So while I get the idea, it wouldn't fit with him. It was just that the game didn't interest him.
I remember seeing this and liking the concept. I have always wanted to ride a gosh darn dragon, just like every other person who has ever seen a dragon. I was interested in the title but never got it since we didn’t have a PS3, I guess I should be thankful
I remember being excited by the gimmick, and then playing for 10 minutes until it got old. It just goes to show, we were very easily impressed by motion control in the 2000s.
@@Lewis1995 yup Although I'm kidding about it being ahead of its time, it does look a bit like these horrible games: Spear of Destiny Sword of Fortress Samael the Legacy of Ophiuchus Shadow the Ronin
I don't know if it's a 10/10 (the highest score), but the score really does sound nice. I also agree with the lads that the dragon has been extremely well animated, plenty of contemporary games did creature animation like this a lot worse, I feel. The technical performance is absolute garbage, though. I'd be curious to know if advances in emulation etc. could make the game run any better than this.
And if y'all think THESE wait times are bad, holy shit, you GOTTA try playing Shadow of Mordor on 360.. navigating the menus in game was no less than ~30 seconds or more any time you pressed "Start". It was so bad that I legitimately only played it for like an hour total. Hehehe
Anyone else get the feeling this game took alot of inspiration from what Scalebound was supposed to be?....🤔 Or is it the other way around? It's been so long i can't exactly remember right now.😅👍
@@christinam3700 Ooooooooo, yeah. Question is how would they pull it off? And what exactly would they be proving? Would they be on the nose and make it about slaying giants, or theme it around something else?
This episode came together, BEAUTIFULLY.
I give it 9/9, the HIGHEST score, possible.
I'm sure the guys would prefer 6/9.
Yeah except for one detail...
Why this game?
Medium rated by most (70% , PLAYERS on Metacritic 64%), lots of players found it to be "light" in content and a bit clunky..
But "worst than most"? Actually, better than most, so why?
The complaint among negative reviews? Like here, "bad controls".
Most times I've seen that in a review, it translated into "don't understand/don't have the time/can't be bothered" which is a COMMON theme on worst games ever. They don't want to play the game in the first place so...?
@@jbarnhart2653 You are taking this far too serious.
The show is only supposed to mock mediocre to downright awful games, even tho the mediocre entries might not be as bad as the likes of "Ride to Hell: Retribution" or "Miami Vice (PS2), etc.
Actually, its just an excuse tp talk about games that would get no mentions anywhere whatsoever, and thats the case with Lair.
Even tho TJ actually does a journalistic job bringing up data and info about reviews/critics/dev info/trivia, they never implied any pretention to prove themselves as hardcore/technical gamers. Its actually the opposite: That's brought up on several ocasions that they (especially Ben and Ashton) actually play some entries on easy. And from a POV of someone playing games daily as a job, its actually reasonable that they keep it on a casual level instead of try-harding games few people care about.
Fucking Andre, they're so cool bc they play games no one knows, instead of playing games no one knows.
D riding at its worst
I love that Ben launched into an Alan Partridge impression the moment they learned the main character's name.
Worst games ever
Name Ben
Height 12 parsecs
Role games victim
Alias ben Kenobi
Special fact formally known as obi wan potter
Name peter
Height 1 parsec
Role games master
Alias peter skywalker
Special fact was betrayed and murdered by Darth Austin
TheSAMlearning Thank you 😁
I actually loved the concept for Lair. I almost wish someone would pick it back up and retry it on newer hardware.
Soundtrack *was* good though.
As a Australian im very offended, we are NOT backwards!!!
We're upside down, we walk on roofs and drink from our bot-bots
Am Australian, can confirm
I’m not Australian but confirm that too
I always love how when you make references you show the clip but most of the time i still have no idea what you're talking about.
Same i get about 1 in 5 references
I only ever get the MBMBaM references Ben makes. But they're so subtle and spread out that most people probably don't realize that they are references at all.
Those pre-rendered face models still hold up, that’s pretty amazing.
When it was released you could only play with motion controls, there was a patch released later letting you use the sticks for control.
Every time I remember to look at the subs count (almost every day), it’s increased by about 100. Slowly but surely bois; keep it up!
Personally I don't like how TH-cam only displays a channel's sub count to the third digit now.
Tell your friends!
I'm just waiting for them to get that one hit video that earns em a few million views. Also, how much funding is needed to bring the special facts back? :P
For those who miss the worst games ever facts I post them in the comments every episode
@@chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266 It really is one of the worst and weirdest changes they've made.
i'm going to use " choking the air with my discharge" to describe when i fart from now on.
If I recall, Simon Miller has a history with Lair.
Ben looks like Morrigan from darkstalkers with those head-wings.
You can tell it's a launch title because it uses sixaxis for everything.
This video may well be the most powerful experience that a man (OR WOMAN) can share with his (OR HER) $5,000 home theatre system
As the Offspring song goes: you’re Pretty Fly, for a White Guy.
Ben, remember, your wings are beautiful
If I remember they added a patch so you can use the sticks I believe
Peter Austin: *Messes up word*
Peter Austin: "And also, trans rights."
“Handcuffs? Kinky. Hey hey.”
Have you boys been reading my fanfic again?
Ohh spicy
I remember being so excited for this game to come out. They fed me the hype and I ate it like the fat piece of crap that I am.
This video makes it into the best of Worst Games Ever list, for sure. One of the most hilarious episodes in ages. Great stuff boys! 😂
Ben was so quick with that edragulate joke. That was really impressive😂
He's been waiting since 2007 to use that joke.
Worst part about this game is that they've patched the horrid Sixaxis controls out, but you still can't play it with a PS2 controller because they forgot to assign a button to one single action needed to complete the tutorial.
Yes, you can use a PS2 controller on a PS3 with any cheapo USB adapter. Don't ask.
Ah, shite, I commented before watching. Apparently, the same thing happens to PS4 controllers.
Thanks for the Video My Dudes! I really enjoyed it! Laughed all the way thru the video!
You leaving the table to go get a PS3 controller was extremely entertaining.
I played this game, after the first few levels you have to do a stealth mission.
Imagine using the sixaxis controls in a mission where you to avoid huge headlights, because when one of them catches you, you had to restart.
Ben plays this like how every mum plays every video game
1st time watching the channel, clicked to see if this was that game I recalled.
Not ashmed to say stayed for how hot Ben is.
Ah, I see you are a man (OR WOMAN) of good taste 😉
23:36 Love using a literal dragon as just cavalry
Ben, you flap your dragon wings so elegantly. Remember, your flaps are beautiful
Ben looks fly, dragonfly
Press F to pay respects to Ben's dignity.
I remember enjoying Lair up until the level with the spotlights.
Edit: I also played it before they patched in the analogue stick controls so I had no choice but to use the sixaxis
@19:03 I love how there's a genuine lightbulb moment when it sinks in how bad the game is. There's of those in every worst games episode lmao
This game as a concept seems cool, and would be something I could get into if it were much, MUCH better executed. Flying over a stronghold, blowing shit up and then landing on a dragon to kill battalions of armored knights. It just really blows in its execution. I like the criticism Peter brings up on some of these games, that it feels like the devs had the things they wanted, and got them done but didn't actually do them justice.
The only thing better than an Alan Partridge reference is an Alan Partridge reference from The day Today. Thank you
The only redeeming quality of this game is the soundtrack being similar to my favourite duel in Star Wars
Lair......I hardly know her.
That's what Caim said at first about Angelus.
Laird of the rings... You're on fire ben.
WOAH!!!
Was NOT expecting Bob Katter.
I thought only Ozzys would know about that peanut.
Nominate that Tiny Peter has badly drawn glasses on his 'game's victim' photo.
It's been proven that Peter dreams about doing intimate things with dragons.
Come a little bit closer to my dragon, son.
I remember my Dad wanted this game in the early PS3 days, bought it for him and it resulted in me playing the whole thing for him.
Dragon games have not been doing so well. Look at Eragon and Scalebound.
Maybe he just wanted to be involved in your hobby and that was his way of doing it
@@ffffdsd He was a video gamer from when I was a baby and to that timeframe (Not so much in recent years). So while I get the idea, it wouldn't fit with him.
It was just that the game didn't interest him.
16:46 caught me completely off guard and almost pissed myself.
Wait, is that Newcastle?
Edit: wow, yes. I had to check Streetview to make sure. Been there a couple of years ago, haha.
Cheers from Spain, guys!
I remember seeing this and liking the concept. I have always wanted to ride a gosh darn dragon, just like every other person who has ever seen a dragon. I was interested in the title but never got it since we didn’t have a PS3, I guess I should be thankful
Ben wearing his wings looks a bit like Peter Gabriel's costume for the song Watcher of the Skies, where he wore bat wings on his head.
That intro cutscene seems really similar to Dark Souls
Can confirm we are all backwards in Australia
Comment to help Al Gore's Rhythms
I hope somewhere, Billy ARRR Walrus (Pirate walrus) survived the moves and is happy with one of the vidiots.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks guys!
I remember being excited by the gimmick, and then playing for 10 minutes until it got old. It just goes to show, we were very easily impressed by motion control in the 2000s.
Has anyone ever told the boyz that you can sync a ps4 controller to a ps3 through bluetooth?
i think every time they mentioned it in a ps3 video, people in the comments did tell them, i don't know if they ever saw said comments though.
I'd say this game was well ahead of its time...
...by exact 10 years. It looks like one of those shitty PS4 games made by Gilson B. Pontes.
Really? It looks shocking
@@Lewis1995 yup
Although I'm kidding about it being ahead of its time, it does look a bit like these horrible games:
Spear of Destiny
Sword of Fortress
Samael the Legacy of Ophiuchus
Shadow the Ronin
@@MateusAuri I'd probably agree its ahead of it's time tbh they just didnt execute it very well
@@Lewis1995 Ah yes, one could argue that, indeed, when it comes to other aspects besides the graphics.
@@Lewis1995 also holy shit a reference to a Simpsons footballer
Peter is spot on with the star wars music!😂😂
I remember getting really excited by this, and then when it was an entirely different game when they released it lol
ben got his red wing today LMAO
Remember everyone the boys are accepting post donations of tat till the 30th of November
Got my greeting card with small tat inside ready and waiting to post!
Bunny ear Ben is my favourite. Fingers crossed for a Funko Pop!
Yes they are bunny ears, wings would be ridiculous.
I thought you looked more like dobby, than a dragon, Ben ;)
11:10 Superman 64 flashbacks
See it’s the bits others would cut out that so fucking funny and make them unique.....I LOVE THESE GUYS.
Bob Katter on triple jump. Mind blown.
Edragulate.... there goes my whole day🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂😵
I just realise you live 30mins aways from me lol im sure one of you used to work in a game shop in toon
It got an update where you don’t need six axis am sure
I tried my best with this game and even after the “fixed the controls” it is still shit.
Remember that every 3months or so someone is killed by crocodile!
‘Resistance Fall of Man’ now that’s a game awesome.
Esto es triste, Factor 5 había desarrollado buenísimos juegos como Indiana Jones Greatest Adventures SNES y Mega Turrican Genesis
Vulcan-Os, Spock's favorite breakfast treat 😂😂😁👽
That's great they stopped playing exactly where I decided the game was trash lol
I don't know if it's a 10/10 (the highest score), but the score really does sound nice. I also agree with the lads that the dragon has been extremely well animated, plenty of contemporary games did creature animation like this a lot worse, I feel. The technical performance is absolute garbage, though. I'd be curious to know if advances in emulation etc. could make the game run any better than this.
man the sage is so cool
The ideas are great, if they made it now, would it work?
INDEED I LOVE dragons 😜
8.3.22
Being a fan of Eragon; I was so excited about this game.
Used to live just round the corner!
Aww. Didn't wear the headband all the way home?
ben looks super fly
this is probably my favorite worst games i've ever seen. great job guys! you're awesome.
As an Australian this video was upsetting
Good joke Ben
And if y'all think THESE wait times are bad, holy shit, you GOTTA try playing Shadow of Mordor on 360.. navigating the menus in game was no less than ~30 seconds or more any time you pressed "Start". It was so bad that I legitimately only played it for like an hour total. Hehehe
You guys are funny. Good show.
Drakengard + Lord of the rings movies....
Yes ben you do look fly
16:40 Funniest reference
Anyone else get the feeling this game took alot of inspiration from what Scalebound was supposed to be?....🤔 Or is it the other way around? It's been so long i can't exactly remember right now.😅👍
No idea how Lair "took inspiration" considering it was 2005 project released in 2007 not a cancelled 2017 one
@@bamban_garcia5562 that's why i was asking.🤷♂️
BEN IS PATAMON!!!!!
Lookin fly
Please tell me the godawful texture pop-in is due to your PS3 disc drive failing and that's not how the game is supposed to look.
that reviewer said your lair is beautiful
I love this; really shows SONY up 😂😂😂
Your wings.... are beautiful
I actually love this game
the frames!!!!
Something I'd really like to see the boys play is Shadow of the Colossus. Same era, much better game. I just think they'd make it fun.
It would be a good prove it
@@christinam3700 Ooooooooo, yeah. Question is how would they pull it off? And what exactly would they be proving? Would they be on the nose and make it about slaying giants, or theme it around something else?
It's Futch!! From suikoden...anyone!?