the issue is now with BenQ, it is with the panel fab, they are not really making that because there's not really a market for it, The only company that can do this is LG, they have their won fab.
@artisright thank you for the great video. Can you please tell me why a photographer/videographer would chose the SW321C over the SW272U if not for the screen size? In other words does the SW321C have any other advantage over the SW272?
mostly just size. The coating on the SW321C is slightly better than the SW272U but to the user it is imperceptable. And the nice thing about the SW line is that throughout all the models the spec are the mostly the same. i.e. you are getting a great panel with matted coating no matter what, just choose the size and resolution that you like :)
I just ordered two of these to use as my main monitors for 3D animation and design work. I think the only missing feature that I would really love to see is if they were 120hz. Not because I'm a gamer but lower input lag and higher refresh rates really does translate to a better experience when using a Wacom tablet for painting and other tasks such as photo retouching. I really hope they consider increasing refresh rate soon on these color accurate displays. I wonder though, is it possible to overclock them at all? Possibly get them to run at 75 hz or 90hz?
Art, great breakdown. Question re: 4k along side 2k for photo editing, one rotated to vertical. Would you advise avoiding using side by side or is the difference small enough? Backstory, SW272U & Q versions. I do loads of portrait work, great majority vertical orientation. Would like to get the 2k for landscape/horz orientation, rather than flipping the 4k back and forth. Currently using w/Macbook Pro M2 Max, SW271.
You can certainly do that in your setup, however, you might see the variation in pixel pitch between 2K & 4K, this is an individual thing with a wide range of perception. Have you worked with a 2K and 4K combo before or see the difference between them?
Art, great job wth the review. Can I ask for one small tweak? Can BenQ allow for a custom naming of the Calibration options rather than Calibration 1, 2, 3?
That is display firmware and it is locked to a fixed value. But the info button will tell you what the seeing it. Perhaps in the future, there could be an option to add user comment. I’ll suggest that.
Thank you for your video and your contribution to photography industry. I am a professional photographer but my main product is not printing but digital files which will be basically viewed in devices like iphones and TVs. Taking into account that is is a matte panel, will this reduce the general contrast perception? In other words, should I look for something more contrasty or that will do the Job? ❤
Thanks for a detailed video even though a lot of it was above my knowledge. I hope you can clear things up a little. I use a MacBook Pro M1 and edit my photos through LR & PS. I have no color calibrating equipment and was hoping I could plug and match my MacBook screen. I watched several videos where photographers use the SW272U and the PD3220U. You seem to be the most knowledge on BenQ and I trust your opinion on which one of these 2 would suit my needs. I'd appreciate any help you could give, thank you!
Finally! A flat base plate. I hope they do that for all future displays. I have an SW271C and it's maddening that you can't store a pen or round stylus on it without it rolling off.
Congratulations for the New Product. But i am a bit sad that i am stuck with my 2 yreas old BenQ SW2700PT. Currently i got no budget to buy a new BenQ SW Monitor. Maybe i will get one in future.
Thank you for the review! Im curious how accurate is the mbook mode and what's the difference between P3 vs M book ? Aren't they supposed to be the same?
Similar, M Book is a tweak P3 gamut that shows more blue similar to Apple P3. P3 standard is a touch warmer. Accuracy wise, it is good but it can't simulate perceptual variation based on varying backlight technology
Hi, I have a problem with this monitor, maybe you can help me out? When I connect the monitor to the caldigit ts3+ on the thunderbolt port and then connect it with thunderbolt to my msi prestige 15 a11scs I get an ACPI Bios error. I restart my computer 10 times: With usb c to the dock: after 2 restarts I have the acpi bios error With displayport to the dock: 10 times restart: no issues With usb c and dp port to the dock: screen stays black ( don't see the MSI logo on boot) I test it with another monitor ( Dell UP2516) With displayport to the dock: 10 times restart: no issues I did everything I could: Clean windows install ec reset cmos battery reset but nothing seems to work. Now I'm in contact with Benq support and they say that the monitor is not designed to be used with a docking station and only for direct usb c connection with the laptop But how is it possible that a brand new monitor like this one is not designed to be used with a docking station?
First, thank you for making these videos. I am a DP and I editing my own videos for small projects, I need the most reliable color accurate monitor that is going to last me a long time. Are you saying that if I do not print (meaning the I will not need the paper like feature), there is now reason to pay more for the SW line ??? That hardware based calibration is not worth the extra money, that I should buy the PD line instead? Like the PD3220u instead?
I am lucky I just saw this video! I might get this at this point for my color grading mini studio. Seems like the perfect complement for my Mac M1 MAX.
Wondering if I can hook it up to my mac without having to go for something like the BlackMagic 4K Mini? And still get the accuracy I need? @@ArtIsRight
Hello, thank you for this video and the others. I just ordered this screen, if I understand correctly, there is no need for external calibration probes? Thank you and have a nice day :)
You will need an external calibrator to do a full hardware calibration. It is not build in and I recommend Calibrite Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL.
@@ArtIsRight OK, thank you, and what software do you recommend I use? Calibrite PROFILER or Palette Master Element? Thanks for your answers and sorry for all the questions, this is all a bit new to me, despite the fact that I read and watch lots of articles and videos on the subject :)
It use to be that your GPU has to work less than 4k but now a days computers are getting so powerful now that 2K is really starting to out served it purpose. It is not dead yet thought.
24” 1080 is proving to be a pretty good compromise for on set monitors as a DT. Would love to see more nits and a handle on the next 24” update. People are spending absurd money to attach a handle via the vesa mount.
Hi, I calibrated my SW272U with PMU to SRGB gamma 2.2. Everything looks fine but when the photos are viewed on my iPhone and tablet, only the shadows look darker. Especially for night photos with lots of shadows, I have to compensate by lifting black point and shadows so it doesn’t look too dark/contrasty on phones. Daylight photos look more or less accurate on SW272U and phone/tablet. What could be the problem?
Human perception is between matte vs glossy screens, OLED or MiniLED vs ISP LED Black Lights. These 2 are the main contributing factors why you are seeing variations. If you like to discuss more dm me, I am not on yt as much right now
This is great, thanks so much Art. I have two questions if you don't mind? I'm concerned the matt screen of this will reduce contrast and saturation, so my photos will look over contrasty and saturated when clients view them on an iphone etc - is that the case? Does the PD3220U have the same matt screen? And what would you recommend to connect this to a Mac mini M2 Pro, HDMI or USB C? Thanks again!
" I'm concerned the matt screen of this will reduce contrast and saturation, so my photos will look over contrasty and saturated when clients view them on an iphone etc - is that the case?" Not necessary th-cam.com/video/8PJYT-R-TLM/w-d-xo.html PD3220U has a matted screen but a bit shinier. Always USB C when possible
Thanks for the review. I’m a novice to third party screens as I’ve always used iMac displays. Due to the age of my Mac (and not finding the print finish accurate) I’m moving to a MacBook Pro 13” M2 and am looking for a compatible display that will accurately reflect colour. Please excuse my ignorance but how much configuration would I have to do out of the box. It’s already factory calibrated - do I have to recalibrate upon start up. Could I just expect to plug in my laptop and be good to go and also do you see any compatibility issues with the M2 chip? Thanks in advance
I have been using good old SW2700PT from 2013 to today. It is still holding up and running good. If the quality still the same i have ne doubt this screen will be a good investment.
Art, can you say how large the native color gamut of this monitor is? I know you said it overlaps the Adobe RGB gamut by 99% but how much larger is the native gamut? Can you say what each of the native gamut RGB x,y coordinates are so I can compare to what I have now in my much older NEC PA 272W. I would consider upgrading to this 4K monitor if it matched or came close to what I have now. Thanks for the early review.
May be 101 - 105 depending on the panel. By the way every monitor has only one native gamut, everything else is tweaked and profiled from the factory to much reference gamut. Some are large enough that it can cover 2. i.e. this one that can cover 99% Adobe RGB and 99% Display P3 and DCI-P3, so the gamut has to be larger than 99% Adobe RGB for sure. Your PA 272W is 99% Adobe RGB but not P3 mostly because P3 was not the standard then when the display was released.
Thanks for a good insight video! I’m looking for my first photography monitor for printing, but I’m not still convinced why would someone go with the BenQ instead of the EIZO Coloredge range? Is it to do with the price to performance ratio? Sure the matt screen coating looks nice. And the screen itself looks quite nice aswell. But personally I don’t want to have any kind of a wireless control pod with my display.
There are 2 Eizo, CS is about the same as BenQ in a similar price bracket. CG is the high end that cost 2-3 times more. Sure if you have the budget and funds get an Eizo, we all know that they sit at the top, there's no disputing that and BenQ is not really trying to compete with the high end Eizo either. But the overall market share that BenQ took and is taking from Eizo is no joke. As far as the puck, use it, don't use it, it is just an extra accessory, put it in your drawers or just leave it in the box will work too.
I prefer Mac OS to Windows, but Windows is what I currently have. This monitor worked very well for 3 weeks on my Windows 11 Desktop PC, then all of a sudden PMU failed to recognize the monitor. I called tech support and was told there was a bug in the software and was offered a fix which involved removing/updating drivers. When these fixes didn't work (Drivers did not install) I was told to just wait until March when a new version of PMU will come out. I sent the monitor back for a refund and bought an Eizo CS2740. The hours I spent trouble shooting and trying to get PMU to work were such a frustrating waste of time. Of course YMMV, and I hope that is the case.
Hey Art. I’m kinda new to all this. I’ve purchased a Sw272u and a Mac M2 Ultra studio. What would be your best recommendation for what cables I should use to hook up the monitor to the studio. I’m going to be learning Davinci Resolve. Hope you can help me please
When calibrating like you do I got a error: "could not make Icc profile" I got the option to retry and skip. Retry didn't work so I skipped. But then I did say it was passed and got the report. So now I don't know if the calibration is correct or not? Can you help me? I calibrated with I1 display pro, monitor connected with usb c on windows 11
I just purchased an M1 Max 64gb maxed out Mac. I want to connect up to 3 4K monitors. I’m not sure what cables I need or what dock I need to have the best setup possible. Do you have any advice?
Yes, I even show in these video. RGB is just red, green and blue, not a gamut, sRGB is. BenQ may recommend it as such, but that is attributed to confusion marketing talk.
Hello art, good video!! I would like to ask you what configuration is the best for the benq sw272u and a mac mini m2 pro, 16gb and 512 gb, to use lightroom and photoshop, since I notice a lot in lightroom when moving the brightness sliders, white, black etc, that it is not fluid to change these settings, and when releasing the slider accommodates the image to the adjustment, it is like it goes out of time or there is a delay. Do you know what it could be? Thank you Art. Regards. 👍
What resolution equivalent do you have the display set to? Most of the issue that you described is display dependent really. Another thing to consider as well is when you set up the machine, did you set it up as new or restored it from a Time Machine backup or system migration?
Some excellent & welcome updates. I am curious though as to the limitations when it comes to replicating hdr for image editing, obviously the MacBook Pros have the peak 1600 nit xdr feature that is slowly being adopted by major web browsers, it would be great if BenQ could have replicated that close here for this display line. Obviously it’s not an issue if you’ve a mbp to compare with as a secondary display with the 272 series being the primary, but if you’re using any other desktop variant then that’s a separate purchase. What are your thoughts on this? As you’ve demonstrated, editing images for xdr purposes makes a compelling difference for internet consumption (even if someone like me edits for print)
A few specs, XDR on Mac does peak at 1600 nits but ACR can't access anything beyond 1000 nits. I did an extensive test and made a video on this. You can run the display in HDR and use one of the dynamic metadata mapping mode HDR10 and HLG. But that is mostly for video. HDR for anything other than TV shows / movies are in the early days and we really don't know where it is heading at the moment. There're no critical mass yet so we have to see. Until our phones / tablets full support HDR and more display support this tech fully or natively, it is going to a niche that is one of those "it is nice, if I have this" but be ok with out. To soon to tell.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for replying, Art, your insight is helpful. It’s early days regarding hdr photography on hdr capable displays but it’s always good to keep ahead of the curve when making hardware purchase decisions, hence my curiosity. This display, especially your demonstrated improvements in the matte quality of the display makes for a very tempting purchase.
The issue with HDR for photography is rather muddy, having something that is forward thinking now will end up becoming an antiquated standard later that is a big risk longterm, it cost more for every process of the way and in the end, those who got the display would still be upset.
Thanks for the review. Can you please let me know, which Mac OS you had running, when calibrating with PMU? I'm using Ventura 13.4.1 and it crashes my hole system with red screens. Thanks!
Art hello, is it safe to plug into a m1 ultra mac studio via usb c ? I see the usb c sends power back to the computer for laptop charging hence my question
Great video but I have one question: I am mainly a photographer but would like to be able to occasionally edit my own 4k videos (purely personal and non commercial use), however I have seen elsewhere that the SW range uses 8bit+FC to achieve 10bit. which can adversely effect the smoothness of video playback as the pixels are blended. Realistically can the SW range be used for any video editing?
Couple of questions! I found sw271 the absolute perfect monitor: 4k resolution for around 1k dollars, but I found about it too late and now its basically impossible to find anywhere in the world; so then I saw that next gen models were coming and here are my concerns. Actual screen specs are pretty much the same from 2017 to this 2023 models right, but BenQ was giving a 4k display for 1k$ (sw271), and now they are asking for 1.6k$ for the sw272U?? Any explanation? I don't see any logic behind this, I dont think a few minor hardware changes and the calibrate software are any near enough to ask for +600$ to have a similar monitor to the sw271. Would really appreciate if you could help me understand this situation, thanks in advance! And as always, crazy well made videos man!
Screen specs are the same, quality of the panel and uniformity along with backlight bleeding is not. There're spec sheet and there are other aspects which I have gone over including the matted coated panel. I see where many would come to this conclusion, however, that is just look at the numbers, not all displays are equal. The LUT has also been updated as well. So there are more that meets the eyes.
@@ArtIsRight ohhh I see I see, now things are starting to link in my head, thanks for the clarification tho! Also another question if you don't mind me asking, is 4k for a 27" monitor too much or 2k is more than fine, asking because of the scale adjustment you have to do to see things right, and thought about maybe if you want 4k, a 32" monitor would be more fitting
2k works for some, I would find a way to see it in person because the pixel density can be something that you need adjusting too if you are used to seeing what you have on your phone and tablet. 32" 4k works really well, I have been using those for years now.
the real answer to the price increase is that BenQ is using supply chain issues and inflation as an excuse to increase their pricing considerably! I would not suggest buying this because of this price increase.
I don't like the status LED on my SW321C that flashes when the display goes to sleep. I had to deactivate it and then I don't know what mode the monitor is in. Is there a change or does the LED still flash?
ColorMunki Studio is choose i1Studio, ColorMunki Display aka i1Display aka Calibrite ColorChecker Display, And Calibrite latest Display SL are not compatible
@@ArtIsRight Are you able to elaborate on this? I'm about to purchase a Mac M2 Max Studio and a monitor. I'm replacing a 2019 27" 5k iMac. I'm confused by how some say the 2k is actually better than the 4k for photo editing for print. I'm a portrait photographer and my product is fine art wall prints. Another photographer I know owns an SW271C and let me view some of my files on it. It looked amazing when in Photoshop but looking a web content the text looked to be a bit pixelated. Would the 272U improve that? Is there improved detail when viewing in Photoshop?
@@ArtIsRight So they do have same connector even though it has different name. I did notice my usb c call plugs into the thunderbolt on back of iMac Thanks!
Dream monitor = this at 120hz or higher. I'm using the studio display, but I'll sell it as soon as someone can show me a color accurate monitor that I can game on and edit pictures on
Interesting you say that because there are really only a few consumer solution right now that can do HDR and of all that are out there, can't do it well. Every one has their own parameter.
It is for different use case need and workflow, not all displays are the same. Apple does not have 99% Adobe RGB, if one prints it is not a display suitable for such task.
This guy never reviews other monitors anymore. Basically a shill for BenQ theses days. Oh I know, he's tried to blunt that comment by saying he's a "brand ambassador" but that's just another name for salesperson. Can't trust his reviews anymore. He will never say anything bad about them.
Lots to unpack here, I never reviewed other displays to start out with other than Apple Displays because their product have market impact. All of the others hardware calibrated display company have terrible software to boost, other than Eizo which sits at the top of the pyramid. I appreciate you being honest - thank you for watching the videos and you're welcome.
Art is very transparent about his association with BenQ. He reveals the limitations of their monitors (ie: the PD line doesn't do all the SW line can). I don't think you hear him "say anything bad about them", because BenQ's product work. Look at the reviews from other TH-cam channels who aren't "brand ambassadors" and you'll find very few complaints. Art's videos might be all about BenQ, but they are some of the best if you are learning about color management and considering BenQ--- he is an expert.
Thank you for your review. Is it better to use this monitor on a windows machine to avoid the scaling issues?
Great Review ! BenQ if you hear me, please release this screen in 4K+ 16:10 or 3:2 aspect ratio 🙏
the issue is now with BenQ, it is with the panel fab, they are not really making that because there's not really a market for it, The only company that can do this is LG, they have their won fab.
As always a FANTASTIC review!
Please, one question. Do you know if this year BenQ could release the 32" version?
Have a Prodcutive and Healthy day!
I’m not aware of BenQ un announced products. I only find out under embargo just right before launch.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for your answer!
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@artisright thank you for the great video. Can you please tell me why a photographer/videographer would chose the SW321C over the SW272U if not for the screen size? In other words does the SW321C have any other advantage over the SW272?
mostly just size. The coating on the SW321C is slightly better than the SW272U but to the user it is imperceptable. And the nice thing about the SW line is that throughout all the models the spec are the mostly the same. i.e. you are getting a great panel with matted coating no matter what, just choose the size and resolution that you like :)
@@ArtIsRight thank you for your thorough reply🙌🏾🙌🏾
I just ordered two of these to use as my main monitors for 3D animation and design work. I think the only missing feature that I would really love to see is if they were 120hz. Not because I'm a gamer but lower input lag and higher refresh rates really does translate to a better experience when using a Wacom tablet for painting and other tasks such as photo retouching. I really hope they consider increasing refresh rate soon on these color accurate displays. I wonder though, is it possible to overclock them at all? Possibly get them to run at 75 hz or 90hz?
Good feed back, and sadly you can't over clock these
Awesome video. Thanks, Art!
:)
Art, great breakdown. Question re: 4k along side 2k for photo editing, one rotated to vertical. Would you advise avoiding using side by side or is the difference small enough? Backstory, SW272U & Q versions. I do loads of portrait work, great majority vertical orientation. Would like to get the 2k for landscape/horz orientation, rather than flipping the 4k back and forth. Currently using w/Macbook Pro M2 Max, SW271.
You can certainly do that in your setup, however, you might see the variation in pixel pitch between 2K & 4K, this is an individual thing with a wide range of perception. Have you worked with a 2K and 4K combo before or see the difference between them?
@@ArtIsRight not at any length and certainly not side-by-side. Your advice is greatly appreciated.
Art, great job wth the review. Can I ask for one small tweak? Can BenQ allow for a custom naming of the Calibration options rather than Calibration 1, 2, 3?
That is display firmware and it is locked to a fixed value. But the info button will tell you what the seeing it. Perhaps in the future, there could be an option to add user comment. I’ll suggest that.
Thanks for the review. I have a question. Is there any special care needed for the screen?
no just don't use chemical to clean the screen
Thank you for your video and your contribution to photography industry.
I am a professional photographer but my main product is not printing but digital files which will be basically viewed in devices like iphones and TVs.
Taking into account that is is a matte panel, will this reduce the general contrast perception? In other words, should I look for something more contrasty or that will do the Job?
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Yes it will give the appearance of less saturated colors and lower contrast.
@@ArtIsRight May I kindly ask what should I consider from Benq or possibly other brand (I m on windows)?
I'm bias BenQ
Thanks for a detailed video even though a lot of it was above my knowledge. I hope you can clear things up a little. I use a MacBook Pro M1 and edit my photos through LR & PS. I have no color calibrating equipment and was hoping I could plug and match my MacBook screen. I watched several videos where photographers use the SW272U and the PD3220U. You seem to be the most knowledge on BenQ and I trust your opinion on which one of these 2 would suit my needs. I'd appreciate any help you could give, thank you!
If you print SW, if not PD will do just fine
Finally! A flat base plate. I hope they do that for all future displays. I have an SW271C and it's maddening that you can't store a pen or round stylus on it without it rolling off.
Most likely this is the more practical design going forward!
Congratulations for the New Product. But i am a bit sad that i am stuck with my 2 yreas old BenQ SW2700PT. Currently i got no budget to buy a new BenQ SW Monitor. Maybe i will get one in future.
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Is it worth getting the SW321C anymore? How does the SW321C compare against this model (ignoring the size difference).
Yes if you want the biggest! SW321C is still a fantastic display
Thank you for the review! Im curious how accurate is the mbook mode and what's the difference between P3 vs M book ? Aren't they supposed to be the same?
Similar, M Book is a tweak P3 gamut that shows more blue similar to Apple P3. P3 standard is a touch warmer. Accuracy wise, it is good but it can't simulate perceptual variation based on varying backlight technology
Hi,
I have a problem with this monitor, maybe you can help me out?
When I connect the monitor to the caldigit ts3+ on the thunderbolt port and then connect it with thunderbolt to my msi prestige 15 a11scs I get an ACPI Bios error.
I restart my computer 10 times:
With usb c to the dock: after 2 restarts I have the acpi bios error
With displayport to the dock: 10 times restart: no issues
With usb c and dp port to the dock: screen stays black ( don't see the MSI logo on boot)
I test it with another monitor ( Dell UP2516)
With displayport to the dock: 10 times restart: no issues
I did everything I could:
Clean windows install
ec reset
cmos battery reset
but nothing seems to work.
Now I'm in contact with Benq support and they say that the monitor is not designed to be used with a docking station and only for direct usb c connection with the laptop
But how is it possible that a brand new monitor like this one is not designed to be used with a docking station?
Hi I think we were chatting about this on dm already :)
First, thank you for making these videos. I am a DP and I editing my own videos for small projects, I need the most reliable color accurate monitor that is going to last me a long time. Are you saying that if I do not print (meaning the I will not need the paper like feature), there is now reason to pay more for the SW line ??? That hardware based calibration is not worth the extra money, that I should buy the PD line instead? Like the PD3220u instead?
If you are serious about color then SW is the way to go. I am focusing the conversion on photo and not video, hence the reason for this
@@ArtIsRight ok , thank for the reply
I am lucky I just saw this video! I might get this at this point for my color grading mini studio. Seems like the perfect complement for my Mac M1 MAX.
Totally!
Wondering if I can hook it up to my mac without having to go for something like the BlackMagic 4K Mini? And still get the accuracy I need? @@ArtIsRight
Hello, thank you for this video and the others. I just ordered this screen, if I understand correctly, there is no need for external calibration probes? Thank you and have a nice day :)
Monitor Calibrator*
You will need an external calibrator to do a full hardware calibration. It is not build in and I recommend Calibrite Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL.
@@ArtIsRight OK, thank you, and what software do you recommend I use? Calibrite PROFILER or Palette Master Element? Thanks for your answers and sorry for all the questions, this is all a bit new to me, despite the fact that I read and watch lots of articles and videos on the subject :)
Palette Master Ultimate
@@ArtIsRight Thanks Art for your advice, ordered Calibrite Display Pro HL
Why would you choose the 2k over the 4K outside of price? Are there advantages or disadvantages?
It use to be that your GPU has to work less than 4k but now a days computers are getting so powerful now that 2K is really starting to out served it purpose. It is not dead yet thought.
@@ArtIsRight ok thanks. That helps. I want the 4K on a 2k budget…
You can get that in the PD model but not SW
@@ArtIsRight thanks
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Much to learn by the great questions and answers in these comments.
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24” 1080 is proving to be a pretty good compromise for on set monitors as a DT. Would love to see more nits and a handle on the next 24” update. People are spending absurd money to attach a handle via the vesa mount.
With you
Hi, I calibrated my SW272U with PMU to SRGB gamma 2.2. Everything looks fine but when the photos are viewed on my iPhone and tablet, only the shadows look darker.
Especially for night photos with lots of shadows, I have to compensate by lifting black point and shadows so it doesn’t look too dark/contrasty on phones. Daylight photos look more or less accurate on SW272U and phone/tablet.
What could be the problem?
Human perception is between matte vs glossy screens, OLED or MiniLED vs ISP LED Black Lights. These 2 are the main contributing factors why you are seeing variations. If you like to discuss more dm me, I am not on yt as much right now
This is great, thanks so much Art. I have two questions if you don't mind? I'm concerned the matt screen of this will reduce contrast and saturation, so my photos will look over contrasty and saturated when clients view them on an iphone etc - is that the case? Does the PD3220U have the same matt screen? And what would you recommend to connect this to a Mac mini M2 Pro, HDMI or USB C? Thanks again!
" I'm concerned the matt screen of this will reduce contrast and saturation, so my photos will look over contrasty and saturated when clients view them on an iphone etc - is that the case?" Not necessary th-cam.com/video/8PJYT-R-TLM/w-d-xo.html
PD3220U has a matted screen but a bit shinier.
Always USB C when possible
That's great, thanks so much Art! @@ArtIsRight
Thanks for the review. I’m a novice to third party screens as I’ve always used iMac displays. Due to the age of my Mac (and not finding the print finish accurate) I’m moving to a MacBook Pro 13” M2 and am looking for a compatible display that will accurately reflect colour. Please excuse my ignorance but how much configuration would I have to do out of the box. It’s already factory calibrated - do I have to recalibrate upon start up. Could I just expect to plug in my laptop and be good to go and also do you see any compatibility issues with the M2 chip? Thanks in advance
For the best and most accurate result - you should custom calibrated it.
I would love to see Benq sell a 5K model to give me that sweet Retina 218 PPI. Until then I will have to stick with 1440p 27 inch to get 109 PPI.
I hear you. I'm still advocating for 5K, but no one listen :(
I have been using good old SW2700PT from 2013 to today. It is still holding up and running good. If the quality still the same i have ne doubt this screen will be a good investment.
Even better! BenQ has made so many improvements!
I have recently bought a Macbook Pro M2. Will SW272U display Adobe RGB to enable accurate colour for printing ?
Yes
Art, can you say how large the native color gamut of this monitor is? I know you said it overlaps the Adobe RGB gamut by 99% but how much larger is the native gamut? Can you say what each of the native gamut RGB x,y coordinates are so I can compare to what I have now in my much older NEC PA 272W. I would consider upgrading to this 4K monitor if it matched or came close to what I have now. Thanks for the early review.
May be 101 - 105 depending on the panel. By the way every monitor has only one native gamut, everything else is tweaked and profiled from the factory to much reference gamut. Some are large enough that it can cover 2. i.e. this one that can cover 99% Adobe RGB and 99% Display P3 and DCI-P3, so the gamut has to be larger than 99% Adobe RGB for sure. Your PA 272W is 99% Adobe RGB but not P3 mostly because P3 was not the standard then when the display was released.
Thanks for a good insight video! I’m looking for my first photography monitor for printing, but I’m not still convinced why would someone go with the BenQ instead of the EIZO Coloredge range? Is it to do with the price to performance ratio? Sure the matt screen coating looks nice. And the screen itself looks quite nice aswell. But personally I don’t want to have any kind of a wireless control pod with my display.
There are 2 Eizo, CS is about the same as BenQ in a similar price bracket. CG is the high end that cost 2-3 times more. Sure if you have the budget and funds get an Eizo, we all know that they sit at the top, there's no disputing that and BenQ is not really trying to compete with the high end Eizo either. But the overall market share that BenQ took and is taking from Eizo is no joke. As far as the puck, use it, don't use it, it is just an extra accessory, put it in your drawers or just leave it in the box will work too.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for the answer! Good to know the puck is not mandatory. Of course that was to be expected but it's good to know for sure.
Absolutely :)
I prefer Mac OS to Windows, but Windows is what I currently have. This monitor worked very well for 3 weeks on my Windows 11 Desktop PC, then all of a sudden PMU failed to recognize the monitor. I called tech support and was told there was a bug in the software and was offered a fix which involved removing/updating drivers. When these fixes didn't work (Drivers did not install) I was told to just wait until March when a new version of PMU will come out. I sent the monitor back for a refund and bought an Eizo CS2740. The hours I spent trouble shooting and trying to get PMU to work were such a frustrating waste of time. Of course YMMV, and I hope that is the case.
Thanks for sharing
Absolutely love their SW line. Affordable professional color.
yup
Hey Art. I’m kinda new to all this. I’ve purchased a Sw272u and a Mac M2 Ultra studio. What would be your best recommendation for what cables I should use to hook up the monitor to the studio. I’m going to be learning Davinci Resolve. Hope you can help me please
USB C
R this compatible with macOS scaling ? Especially with Mac Studio or MacBook Pro ?
yes, don't believe the non-sense that others shared :)
Could you compare this and apple studio display!. I am confused about what to purchase
99% Adobe RGB in the BQ and only about 80+% in the apple. This about sums it up th-cam.com/video/8qHYsJDSKWM/w-d-xo.html
When calibrating like you do I got a error: "could not make Icc profile" I got the option to retry and skip. Retry didn't work so I skipped. But then I did say it was passed and got the report. So now I don't know if the calibration is correct or not? Can you help me? I calibrated with I1 display pro, monitor connected with usb c on windows 11
Can you verify on your system to see if the icc profile was created or not? If it was you are good, if not then we can chat further.
I just purchased an M1 Max 64gb maxed out Mac. I want to connect up to 3 4K monitors. I’m not sure what cables I need or what dock I need to have the best setup possible. Do you have any advice?
You can just do direct USB C to USB C on all 3, depending on the monitor.
Will this monitor connect to a Mac Studio computer and scale correctly? I noticed that the Benq monitors recommended for Apple are SRGB and not RGB?
Yes, I even show in these video. RGB is just red, green and blue, not a gamut, sRGB is. BenQ may recommend it as such, but that is attributed to confusion marketing talk.
Hello art, good video!! I would like to ask you what configuration is the best for the benq sw272u and a mac mini m2 pro, 16gb and 512 gb, to use lightroom and photoshop, since I notice a lot in lightroom when moving the brightness sliders, white, black etc, that it is not fluid to change these settings, and when releasing the slider accommodates the image to the adjustment, it is like it goes out of time or there is a delay. Do you know what it could be? Thank you Art. Regards. 👍
What resolution equivalent do you have the display set to? Most of the issue that you described is display dependent really. Another thing to consider as well is when you set up the machine, did you set it up as new or restored it from a Time Machine backup or system migration?
@@ArtIsRight I have tried in all the resolutions and in some it is more noticeable than in another, and I set the mac as new.
Yes and it depends on your workflow as well
Can I use a Spyder X Elite to do the hardware calibration?
Yes
Is the matt coating grainy?
smooth
Some excellent & welcome updates. I am curious though as to the limitations when it comes to replicating hdr for image editing, obviously the MacBook Pros have the peak 1600 nit xdr feature that is slowly being adopted by major web browsers, it would be great if BenQ could have replicated that close here for this display line. Obviously it’s not an issue if you’ve a mbp to compare with as a secondary display with the 272 series being the primary, but if you’re using any other desktop variant then that’s a separate purchase. What are your thoughts on this? As you’ve demonstrated, editing images for xdr purposes makes a compelling difference for internet consumption (even if someone like me edits for print)
A few specs, XDR on Mac does peak at 1600 nits but ACR can't access anything beyond 1000 nits. I did an extensive test and made a video on this. You can run the display in HDR and use one of the dynamic metadata mapping mode HDR10 and HLG. But that is mostly for video. HDR for anything other than TV shows / movies are in the early days and we really don't know where it is heading at the moment. There're no critical mass yet so we have to see. Until our phones / tablets full support HDR and more display support this tech fully or natively, it is going to a niche that is one of those "it is nice, if I have this" but be ok with out. To soon to tell.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for replying, Art, your insight is helpful. It’s early days regarding hdr photography on hdr capable displays but it’s always good to keep ahead of the curve when making hardware purchase decisions, hence my curiosity. This display, especially your demonstrated improvements in the matte quality of the display makes for a very tempting purchase.
The issue with HDR for photography is rather muddy, having something that is forward thinking now will end up becoming an antiquated standard later that is a big risk longterm, it cost more for every process of the way and in the end, those who got the display would still be upset.
Is the sw272q going to be able to run PMU? Everywhere I look it’s the only SW model that is not mentioned as compatible.
Yes
Thanks for the review. Can you please let me know, which Mac OS you had running, when calibrating with PMU? I'm using Ventura 13.4.1 and it crashes my hole system with red screens. Thanks!
During filming 13.4 BenQ is aware of this and is looking into the issue.
When you setup your Mac, did you use system migration or time machine restore? Or was this a restore from a backup?
@@ArtIsRight o.k. Thanks für the info!
@@ArtIsRight Hi Art, it was a brand-new setup with a Mac Studio M2 Max, which was just delivered from Apple.
interesting, I ran test on that machine and it worked ok. Bugs happen, but that is strange...
Just got one of these and it has a high pitched buzz under 100 brightness
hmm, that is not normal, contact you local BenQ support for help
Dear Sir ! When can this product be distributed to other countries?
I would contact your local BenQ office or authorized retailer for specific timeline in your country and territories.
@@ArtIsRight yes i want to know when the product will be sold in vietnam
I don't have that information. This is why you need to contact the local BenQ office for release time frame.
Quite interested to hear about the differences with SW272Q (besides the resolution) as it is a tad more budget friendly.
There are only a few things, nothing is a deal breaker really!
I did notice this is specced brighter vs the q, 400nit vs 300
Art hello, is it safe to plug into a m1 ultra mac studio via usb c ? I see the usb c sends power back to the computer for laptop charging hence my question
safe yes, handshake protocol happens when you plug in with decision to send power or not.
@@ArtIsRight thankyou that relieves my concern Sir :)
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Great video but I have one question: I am mainly a photographer but would like to be able to occasionally edit my own 4k videos (purely personal and non commercial use), however I have seen elsewhere that the SW range uses 8bit+FC to achieve 10bit. which can adversely effect the smoothness of video playback as the pixels are blended. Realistically can the SW range be used for any video editing?
Yes, do it all the time, including all of the videos edited on this channel.
Couple of questions! I found sw271 the absolute perfect monitor: 4k resolution for around 1k dollars, but I found about it too late and now its basically impossible to find anywhere in the world; so then I saw that next gen models were coming and here are my concerns.
Actual screen specs are pretty much the same from 2017 to this 2023 models right, but BenQ was giving a 4k display for 1k$ (sw271), and now they are asking for 1.6k$ for the sw272U?? Any explanation? I don't see any logic behind this, I dont think a few minor hardware changes and the calibrate software are any near enough to ask for +600$ to have a similar monitor to the sw271.
Would really appreciate if you could help me understand this situation, thanks in advance! And as always, crazy well made videos man!
Screen specs are the same, quality of the panel and uniformity along with backlight bleeding is not. There're spec sheet and there are other aspects which I have gone over including the matted coated panel. I see where many would come to this conclusion, however, that is just look at the numbers, not all displays are equal. The LUT has also been updated as well. So there are more that meets the eyes.
@@ArtIsRight ohhh I see I see, now things are starting to link in my head, thanks for the clarification tho! Also another question if you don't mind me asking, is 4k for a 27" monitor too much or 2k is more than fine, asking because of the scale adjustment you have to do to see things right, and thought about maybe if you want 4k, a 32" monitor would be more fitting
2k works for some, I would find a way to see it in person because the pixel density can be something that you need adjusting too if you are used to seeing what you have on your phone and tablet. 32" 4k works really well, I have been using those for years now.
the real answer to the price increase is that BenQ is using supply chain issues and inflation as an excuse to increase their pricing considerably! I would not suggest buying this because of this price increase.
Are you sure It's an 8-bit frc panel, not an actual 10-bit panel?
it is 10 bit done via 8 bit + FRC
Any news from BenQ for the new SW32 inch model Krub?
Not that I know of
@@ArtIsRight Thank you.
Art please tell them to pump up the nits (at least 500 nits), only my criticism to Benq monitor lineup.
Will do!
I feel like magnets on the I/O cover could lead to interference and potentially reduce color accuracy but i don’t really know
Interference, may be, color accuracy no so much. But also Apple use Magnet all over the display. There are always way to emi shield
@@ArtIsRight fair enough, thanks for the excellent content!
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I don't like the status LED on my SW321C that flashes when the display goes to sleep. I had to deactivate it and then I don't know what mode the monitor is in. Is there a change or does the LED still flash?
The light LED is now at bottom but that now points down instead of towards you
@@ArtIsRight And in sleep mode, does it blink/pulse? It's annoying at night...
I'll have to check.
@@ArtIsRight Forgot? 🙂
Busy, you can turn off the light all together, on the display system menu - OSD Key Bri. bring that down to 0.
Is the Colormunki compatible with this monitor/ palette master?
ColorMunki Studio is choose i1Studio, ColorMunki Display aka i1Display aka Calibrite ColorChecker Display, And Calibrite latest Display SL are not compatible
@@ArtIsRightdisplay plus HL?
A pixel pitch of 163 is not ideal for photo editing. Hard to tell if you've over-sharpened. The 2K model looks to be ideal.
personal preference at this point really
@@ArtIsRight Are you able to elaborate on this? I'm about to purchase a Mac M2 Max Studio and a monitor. I'm replacing a 2019 27" 5k iMac. I'm confused by how some say the 2k is actually better than the 4k for photo editing for print. I'm a portrait photographer and my product is fine art wall prints. Another photographer I know owns an SW271C and let me view some of my files on it. It looked amazing when in Photoshop but looking a web content the text looked to be a bit pixelated. Would the 272U improve that? Is there improved detail when viewing in Photoshop?
Sir in my ben tv i dnt know how to connect ing wifi i cant see the connectivity
Please contact your local support for help on this....
How do I connect it to 2017 5k iMac that doesn’t have usb-c?
2017 5K iMac does have multiple USB C / Thunderbolt 3 connection
@@ArtIsRight So they do have same connector even though it has different name. I did notice my usb c call plugs into the thunderbolt on back of iMac
Thanks!
They are all backwards compatible. Thunderbolt just have a stricter standard than USB C so you have a better port that is backwards compatible.
What about a wall mount?
VESA 100x100 compatible
Calibrate TCL C845?
ok
Dream monitor = this at 120hz or higher. I'm using the studio display, but I'll sell it as soon as someone can show me a color accurate monitor that I can game on and edit pictures on
BTW, gaming with 13900k and 4090 on 5K = 130 to 180 fps. So insane!
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If there was an upsell that made the pad charge your phone/airpods that would rock
That was my thought exactly
What monitor would you like him to review?
I think this is supposed to be a response to the comment that came right before. I appreciate this
@@ArtIsRight yes, I don’t know how my response became un attached to the other comment.
No worries :)
I love it, but the absence of a propper HDR calibration is unacceptable,
Interesting you say that because there are really only a few consumer solution right now that can do HDR and of all that are out there, can't do it well. Every one has their own parameter.
for this prix 8bit+ FRC 60ghz and the 4k version 2x prix ...just to expensive
Hardware calibrated display not software ones. Totally different plane field
With matte coating hahaha
…ok…
for the price why not just get the Apple display
Missing the point, Color gamut coverage and hardware calibration capability - more accurate colors. Important for printing photographers.
$1600? I prefer buy the Apple Studio Display
It is for different use case need and workflow, not all displays are the same. Apple does not have 99% Adobe RGB, if one prints it is not a display suitable for such task.
This guy never reviews other monitors anymore. Basically a shill for BenQ theses days. Oh I know, he's tried to blunt that comment by saying he's a "brand ambassador" but that's just another name for salesperson. Can't trust his reviews anymore. He will never say anything bad about them.
Lots to unpack here, I never reviewed other displays to start out with other than Apple Displays because their product have market impact. All of the others hardware calibrated display company have terrible software to boost, other than Eizo which sits at the top of the pyramid. I appreciate you being honest - thank you for watching the videos and you're welcome.
@@ArtIsRight and NEC Display Solutions has the best software
NEC does not make these displays any more, they got taken over by Sharp and that is the end of them.
Art is very transparent about his association with BenQ. He reveals the limitations of their monitors (ie: the PD line doesn't do all the SW line can). I don't think you hear him "say anything bad about them", because BenQ's product work. Look at the reviews from other TH-cam channels who aren't "brand ambassadors" and you'll find very few complaints.
Art's videos might be all about BenQ, but they are some of the best if you are learning about color management and considering BenQ--- he is an expert.
Yes he's a salesman. But it's still an informative in-depth look at the monitor, if you're in the market for one and you want all the tech specs.