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I was looking for a power station and I first looked at my friend’s Ecoflow Pro. It’s fans are too loud for use indoors. I don’t need the ability to expand to 240 V split phase with two units so I decided on the Anker 767 with the extra battery and I’m really happy with it. 4KWh for $2600, stellar build quality, 93% inverter efficiency, and quiet!
Another weird "gotcha" with this unit is the 10amp vs 20amp solar charge rate. I tried 2 URE 365 watt panels in parallel (40.7VOC). I couldn't get the unit to charge more than 10amps so I measured VOC at the panels (37V), and again at the ends of my MC4 cables (33.5V). Despite being above the 32 volt threshold for 20amp charging, I couldn't get it out of "10amp mode". I asked Anker for an explanation and they never really answered my question. Long story short, get your VOC up in the high 40's or low 50's for best results. Ankers own 531 panels are 57.6VOC which leaves very little room for cold weather.
Great Video!! Yes biggest take always was no dual charging, low voltage for solar charging and for expansion I dont like the hard rigid cables which makes it a tougher choice for storing or the RV community. When will companies stop making those? Or a updated cable would be great 👍🏼 Over all still a good unit and efficient!
Another awesome video! The most solar I've been able to get into mine is 808 watts (and only for a moment) with 2 Qcell 480 watt bifacial panels. I challenge anyone to overpanel this unit and get the full 1000 watts. Another CON is the expensive expansion battery and you are limited to only 1 expansion battery.
If you find the rare solar panel that has under 20volts open circuit it's possible. NewPowa made some 210w panels that had 19.3VOC and they worked great in a 3S config on all of Bluettis 60v devices. They don't make those panels anymore though....total bummer! I would have recommended them if so!
@@Jasonoid You might have a chance at overpaneling with the JJN 200 watt 12v 10BB bifacial panels. (28.1VOC, 9.12ISC) in a 2S3P configuration but the Anker will only pill 20amps max but that's alot of wiring headache for a couple hundred watts when you can buy a couple large residential panels and wire them in parallel.
For solar would it make any sense to use an inexpensive charge controller + 48v battery so you can wire 150v+ from 3-4S at 10A and then pull 48v@20a from the battery?
Thank you Jason 👍🏼 I have a mishmash of panels going on more out of panic pre hurricane buying. So having to buy their panels gets pricey for me. Looks like a great unit the handle and wheels are great for weaklings like me😂 The RV plug really is a huge huge plus! Really like this unit 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you for the thorough review! So many other reviews on this unit just read off the spec sheet. Really wanted to like this one for its size and efficiency while still being just about portable, but those solar charging limits are keeping me holding out for Bluetti refreshing the AC200Max with a bidirectional inverter for UPS and no external brick. I kinda think they chose those solar limits on purpose as it is basically impossible to hit 1000W nearly exactly except with their ludicrously expensive panels. The only two panels I could find are some 200W fixed panels with Voc of 29V and Vmax of 24.5V so with a 3P2S setup you are technically over paneling at 1200W but only going over on current so the unit would limit that anyway and that’s probably a good thing since you never get full capacity anyway in the real world. Would likely need at least 10 gauge wires if not 8 though for less loss. Also not being able to mix solar and AC for charging is just poor. Solar is essentially free once you have the panels so it should always try to use that and then make up any shortfall with AC. Even the Bluetti EB3A does that. I do like the use of the GaN circuitry for better efficiency and lower temps. I hope other adopt this like they are doing in other AC chargers as I did have issues with the EB3A overheating with continual use.
I did find some older gen NewPowa 210w panels that had a VOC below 20v, they don't make them anymore unfortunately. Those panels in a 3S config worked really well on any of these power stations with a 60v cutoff.
I own an anker and I would never recommend it to anyone. See my comment above. I bought some cheap $997 no brand name called FFpower of amazon and while it has its limits, it has blown the anker away when considering the price difference, reliability and 20 pounds lighter. However, when it comes to the best inverters, hands down Jackery pro 2000 beats them all. Anker uses over 32 wats while jackery is under 4. Hold out for bluetti if anything, but if you have no need for additional battery packs or the RV hook up, then check out the FFpower no brand name one. I have 2 and have nothing but delight.
Great and very thorough review! I'm glad to see that these things just continue to get better and better. The price is a bit high and since i have too much invested in the AC200MAX with 2 extra batteries and DC charge enhancers, i won't be switching to anything else any time soon. Maybe one of these manufacturers will actually make a good all in one with true split phase 240 VAC operation that will run a medium size load (such as a well pump) for a round a half hour or so without having to buy two along with the bridging adapter. If you look at the Delta 2, then you realize that EcoFlow could easily combine 2 of those in one box, and sell a 2048W LFP with a 3.8 KW 240 VAC split phase for the same price as this Anker unit. That would be a real game changer for 2KW battery size range of solar generators
You may want to look into buying a unit made for Europe. We use 240V single phase as our normal power supply. Be aware it's 50Hz usually but for example the Fossibot F2400 can be switched between 50 and 60 Hz. It has some drawbacks, mainly efficiency, but I'm sure there will be other units that can do the same. Could be a cheap solution for your needs. Your pump won't know whether your are running split phase or single phase as the voltage between your two legs is the same as what we have between live and neutral.
Excellent point with the Delta 2 power stations in 'series'. That would have been a smart move for a small 240v setup. I am going to be reviewing the Zendure Superbase V coming up soon, LFP model. It has both 120v and 240v output in one unit.
Great review Jason! Cool to see we get very similar data, glad the sine wave was so clean and there was so little noise. Jealous you had 3x 100w USB-C PD devices to test with - 560w of DC output is impressive! I agree that the super quiet fans and cooler GaN tech is best in class. This feels super simple and solid, it just works. 9.5 is really good, I didn’t expect that high a score
This unit checks all the boxes and has a great build quality. The only downside in my opinion is the 60v solar limit. Even at 500 to 600 watts input it will still charge in 5 hours or less, it just would have been BEST to get the full 1000 watts.
I've purchased the F2000 along with 2 PS400 panels. Unfortunately, the max input has been 518, and that was for a very short period as they dropped to 440 after the panels got hot. I've tested it many times, changing the angles, one panel at a time, on many different days and again on a fully clear day only to max out at a constant 403-404 rate with one panel being better than the other by about 20W. Either my F2000 is faulty, or I got a set of bad panels. I'm waiting to see how Anker will address this. This was just received on July 22. I'm a hard-core Anker advocate, so this will be a test of my loyalty to their products. And I own many various products of theirs.
The main two reasons I did not choose the anker is the price and the 60-volt solar limit. Other than that, it looks like a great unit. I went with a Pecron 2000. Great price right now on sale and the fact it takes up to 95 volts of solar in both inputs made it perfect for me. I got the unit yesterday and charged it with my 4 230-watt panels today with no issues other than tree shade and clouds. It was getting 66 volts from both sets in series. If you were not aware, the newest version of the Pecron 2000 puts out 120 volts on the ac inverter now. I have not tested the usbc ports yet or the 12 volt side.
So much competition now . In the 2000wh range I'm actually leaning towards the pecron e2000 lfp for my next purchase. But wow I love what Anker is doing and already years of proven support an established trusted company.
Are they “trusted” though? They did have a recent debacle with their Eufy line of home cameras where they lied to customers. But I think I know what you mean, their battery banks and chargers seem to be quite solid.
Thanks for this super informative video Jason! We are thinking of buying something in this range and this review was super helpful! I appreciate your thorough reviews! Katy
Great video as always! Looks like a nice power station as well. I have the anker 757 and 555 myself and a delta 2 and river 2 all of witch I bought after watching your reviews on them.
Man, I'd like to get my hands on one of these! Anker really should expand to South Africa, EVERYBODY's in the market for power stations as our power utility is sliding down the toilet in a hurry. We have regular blackouts (they don't like that word, it's called "loadshedding") each day. And it's only going to get worse. With winter coming up, everybody's buying portable power stations left & right, and I'll predict extra batteries in no time after. I've done quite a bit of research, and the best available here is the Ecoflow. It's 30% heavier, doesn't have that nice pull-out handle to move around, and it's way too loud for my taste. If you work from home, have to do recordings and editing, as well as regular online meetings...well, you want as little noise interference as possible. This looks like the real deal.
Great review Jason! I'm really impressed by Anker's performance and efficiency. I think the only one more efficient is the Pecron E2000LFP. Completely agree on the low solar input voltage and needing another 12V port that's not the horrible cigarette lighter port. The input voltage really needs to be higher. While it can recharge at the ~600W in ~4hr, that's with no load. I use my power stations under load while solar charging, so I need the ability to charge within 2-3hrs at no-load conditions so I can fully recharge while I'm using the power station. The Anker is like a full featured Pecron. Unfortunately, while the features are nice, I can't justify the cost difference. Plus the Pecron is expandable to 8kWh. But that little extra output capability on the Anker inverter is nice. I've overloaded the Pecron 2000W inverter. BTW, do you plan to test the Oupes Mega 5? That one like very interesting with a massive 4kW inverter and expandable to 10kWh. Though some of their numbers are marketing hype, like their 2250W solar input that isn't realizable due to their 15A current limit.
I agree it's a very nice unit, but at $0.97/Wh and the fact that you're almost forced to buy their solar panels means I would give it a pass. Also, I am of the opinion that the UPS function is inadequate, especially for servers and other critical electronics. 10 milliamps/second or less is for me the standard; 3 out of 4 successful events is actually unacceptable. I went looking to see if I could find a 12v/5150 converter to plug into one of the 12v sockets, but could not find one readily available. This was a nice review and you are very thorough - thanks!
Nice review! The price may be premium, but this looks like a premium product (like everything else I've seen from Anker). I am again considering another power station, and it would be a big one. I used my budget on a very nice laptop lately (instead of buying a years-old refurb, I got a new Thinkpad T16), so I'll need to wait, but this one checks all the boxes I need. Askive reviewed another interesting model lately, but this one looks better.
Thank you for another great review. Too bad with the low Solar Input. If I am going to spend 2 grand on a Solar Generator, I expect a solid MPPT controller for decent Solar Input (or even better two MPPT's for dual). I mean, how are you even going to hook up rigid solar panels? I can not connect even two of my qcells 340 W in series with the low Voc max of the Anker of 60 Volts. Too bad, as I have a feeling, this unit is better quality and customer service than Bluetti and Ecoflow. And definitely quieter, the noise from the competition is a deal-breaker for me, unfortunately this lack of Solar Input on the Anker is probably a deal-breaker as well. I guess, I have to go with Pecron. Best compromise, and great value-for-money, I feel.
Oupes seems to have stepped up their design, I can't say their support group would come close to Anker's though. I've had complaints on my channel about Oupes support.
Great review! I just purchased the 767 with 2x200w solar panels. Trying to decide on ordering an expansion battery or another 767 unit. With my Anker credits its a difference of about $400cdn for me to buy a second 767. Would you have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Jake.
The expansion batteries don't have any ports or additional charging so in my opinion it would be more useful to have two main head units. Then you can double your solar charging as your inverter output. You could be charging one and using the other at the same time and then swap them back and forth as needed.
looks like a great unit, if i didn't already have my ffpower p2001, i would be very interested in this unit. having 120v instead of 110v is a great option. being able to set the charging rate is a great option to have on the anker, though i can reduce the charging rate on the p2001 by putting a load on it while it's charging. and of course the bluetooth app is also a nice addition.
@@Jasonoid Excellent! Thanks for the reply. I saw another review that was saying it was not running his AC right, possibly from improper dirty sine waves. Thoughts?
@@Jasonoid Exactly, no idea, but it was running, it just sounded off, and he had the same problem with a pool pump, both devices ran fine when he put a different battery on it. Ecoflow. I’ll find the link for you. I was thinking for me, the 5000 BTU would be perfect. It’s about a 450 watt unit so that should run fine along with the fridge and freezer. I ordered one yesterday and I asked tech support about the surge capacity. He said 2700. I thought that was strange. Link to that vid. th-cam.com/video/0ULwB0YSfsY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7SkFqfIZP4ve0OUs
Theres a port on the back of the unit. I showed a clip of that at the very end of the video. It uses a cable between the main unit and the expansion battery. Check out Todd Parker's review, he has the expansion battery and was able to test it.
Absolutely excellent video. Very well done! Just one question, how come in the video you say that this power station got a 9.5 based on your rating system but in your google sheet it has a score of 8.5?
Jason, do you think the 767 will have issues starting a Midea Duo 14,000 BTU inverter portable air conditioner? I ask because of how surge is managed. The Midea only ever pulls about 1200w on my meter, but I have not measured inrush on high cool situations where it is in a hot room at start. Any insight I appreciated, as this is a big use case for me. The Media inverter backs off nicely and ramps way down but I have to run when it peaks!
I just bought a Delta pro because they remain the best in class for power input, output and recharge. The Anker is a great choice for people who want less power, but if you’re going for something to back up your house then go bigger. I also get the 30% tax rebate because the Ecoflow Delta Pro is over 3,000kwh. So the battery, solar panels, and an EV charger (bundle from Costco) is only $2,000 after that rebate and MUCH more powerful than the anker 767 at the same price (without panels). I will say Ankers Solar panels are much better.
Glad you found something that will work well for you. The Delta Pro is an excellent option as well and EcoFlow has great customer service. That tax rebate sure helps too!
This looks good, but more than my current budget. I am looking for a battery and solar system backup (not grid replacement) in the $1500 range. What would you suggest for the generator and solar panels?
Oukitel /FFpower P2001units are a great budget option, only 500 watts of solar though Pecron E2000LFP can take a bit more solar but doesn't have UPS or fast charging DaranEner NEO2000 is also another great budget option
Both units have very similar features and their advantages. The Bluetti AC200max allows for much higher 'attainable' solar charging and the Anker has the fast wall charging and UPS mode. It just depends how you plan to use your power stations.
Thank you SO much for a thorough review of a very tempting power station. Your points are excellent. I would buy this right now IF, like you pointed out, it had dual-charging AND more than 60volts to allow 1000w of any other brand of panels ( like most of us have ). Do you think there is any likelihood of Anker upgrading to Dual-charging & higher solar wattage ?
Maybe in the next Gen, probably not on this current model. Ecoflow will be coming out with a new Delta 2 Max with LFP batteries that should compete very closely to this one but it shouldn't have those solar limits.
Hi thank you I have been looking at this, so very helpful, was also interested in the expansion battery do you have any info on that . Great review well did. 👍🐝🌞
Jason, I just purchased the Anker 767. Can you connect regular 100w panels to this & how many could I do in series? I own newpowa 21.8V / 5.55A? Thank you in advance
You can build an array of 8 of those panels, you would connect 4 of them in parallel, and then connect the other 4 panels in parallel, and then connect those two strings into series (4p2s). That would keep your total voltage under 60v and you amps right around 20 amps for peak power input using those panels. Just do not connect those panels in series higher than 2S or the voltage will go over 60v.
Outstanding review, however I was wondering if you ran into two "serious" issues with your testing. 1. The issue with fluctuating power to window AC units. (This has supposedly been fix with a firmware update). 2. The problem of reversed wiring of the 4 120v outlets. Did you test these?
Thanks a lot for the review Jason, i bought this unitt now but i would like to plug stronger (400 W ) solar panels. Wich ones would you recommend that would work with this unit + i would surelly need plug adaptors correct?
I'd recommend checking out this video that shows how to know which solar panels with with your specific power station: th-cam.com/video/4JG8LvJznLY/w-d-xo.html
Hi Jason. Great video and impressive power station. To overcome your power loss in the solar test, could you increase the cable size from your 12 awg to say...8 awg? Would the connectors on the 8 awg still work with the mc4 connectors on the panels?
10awg or 8 awg would get you much less voltage drop, the 8 awg would be ideal. I think you could trim a little bit of the copper strands so it would fit into the MC4 adapter if needed. They also have prefab 8awg solar cables online.
Very nice review , is it true that you can't use extension cords with this power station , read that somewhere and found it strange , did you try that , if not can you please ty it and let us know, Thanks and keep up the good work.
You can use extension cords, just don't use the junky 18awg, 16awg ones or you'll start a fire. You need to make sure you are using high quality 12awg (gauge) extension cables that can handle 1800 watts.
Great video. What is the capacity of the battery in amp hours? I’m trying to compare it to standalone lithium batteries which are typically rated in Ah.
Make the max solar port voltage 150V, and allow dual charging with solar charge priority (maybe even a state of charge limit to start ac charging), and this would best pretty much anything in this price range.
Excellent Video. I am looking for a down Grid solution and like everything else, there is a lot to learn. What do you think about getting a cheap gas powered generator to charge instead of solar panels? ETA: Have you tested the Mango E?
The Mango e had nothing but problems for me. It was so bad I sent it back without doing a video. I'm sure they will get the bugs worked out eventually. Charging these up with a generator is a great plan, you don't need solar panels. Solar panels are nice because they are silent and can produce power for years!
Thank you for the thorough review. You pointed out that the low voltage / high amp combination of solar panels in parallel means that there is significant loss when running longer cables. I would like to place some of the Anker 531 solar panels outside during the summer, but store the 767 indoors. Would it be better to get an extension cable for running between the splitter and the unit, or separate extension cables for each panel (and keep the run from the splitter to the unit as short as possible?) How long of an extension could I run? Thank you!
Great question! If you wanted to run one cable for all the solar panels I would look for a 8awg cable to be able to handle the 20 amps over a long distance. 10 awg would also work but you'd see a little more power loss on that size of wiring. If it was cheaper you could also run 14awg cables from each panel (they put out 5 amps each) and you wouldn't get much voltage drop that way either. Multiple options, I'd go with the cheapest one you can work out. You may find this video helpful too: th-cam.com/video/AZIBmFBzBGs/w-d-xo.html
@@Jasonoid Dude, thank you so much for this detailed answer. I will look for a good 8awg cable then, to keep things simple. And yes I watched that video yesterday. Your channel is an excellent resource for solar information. Thanks and keep it up!
Thank you for the great review(s)! We are planning to build a campervan and thinking of using a powerhouse as main powersource. So far we would go for the Anker 767 + expansion battery. Since we will be off-grid most of the time, we are trying to find alternative ways to charge the powerhouse. The company that sells this powerhouse in The Netherlands wrote me that its not possible to charge the powerhouse will driving using the starting battery. I already thought that's weird.. I ended up checking another video from you about using converters like the Victron Orion, but I still have troubles understanding what are the things I should keep in mind. Since we don't want to end up with a dead starting battery ;-) I guess the size of the battery in amps or amp-hours is important?
As long as your engine is running, charging off the car alternator / starter battery is fine. I'd recommend going with the Orion 12v to 24v boost converter and I'd recommend adjusting the voltage all the way up to 29v. That won't be too stressful on your car alternator system, but it will charge the power station at a decent amount.
@@Jasonoid after checking some of your other reviews & grading sheet I'm doubting to reconsider my decision. I think cause of the dual charging (solar and thru a converter that's connected to the starting battery) the Jackery Explorer 2000 Plus would be a better (and more expensive) choice.
@@KickAssPhoeniX the Jackery 2000plus wouldnt support solar and the DC to DC converter at the same time. The DC ports on the Jackery require the same voltage input, which can't work with solar and DC to DC converter since the voltages are different. I'd recommend the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max. It's quiet, it has dual DC Charging ports that will allow you to get solar and the DC to DC converter at the same time. If you need more explanation, you'll need to reach out to me here: asqme.com/@Jasonoid Another option with similar features would be the Ugreen 2200.
I think I will stick with my Ecoflow Delta 2000, It does just fine,. And my ice box is just like yours and my Ecoflow runs it with close to 50% power after 24 hours. thky great video .. dan t.
It automatically charges when plugged in, you can get a smart outlet and turn on and off the outlet so you can control the charging via that outlet though. Just an option.
I really like this unit. The one thing I don't get about these units is why they aren't designed to work exactly like a computer UPS when in UPS mode. If your computer UPS runs down its battery and shuts off, it will automatically restart once grid power is restored. This unit requires manually turning the AC outlets back on. I don't know why you can't have a setting in the firmware that says - for now you are a UPS and should behave the same way, including restoring passed through AC power to the outlets whenever AC power is restored.
After seeing this review and a couple others, I purchased my own Anker 767, but haven't bought any solar panels yet. I would really like to see your recommendations on solar panels specifically for this solar generator, besides the Anker solar panels you mentioned in this video. Also, I was really impressed with your testing thoroughness and explanations of your reasoning for the scores you gave. Would love to see a video that matches that thoroughness for the solar panels. My Anker 767 arrived last Friday and I want to get some solar panels ordered asap. I plan to mount the panels onto the roof of a camping trailer, but the trailer will be parked close enough to use the solar for charging the 767 while I'm at home as well as camping.
There are two ways to go: 1) In the video I used the BougeRV 9BB 180w panels in a 2S2P configuration. The VOC for these panels is around 23 volts, so too high to put into a 3S configuration (the voltage would go over 60volts). 2) I actually found some panels that have 19 volts VOC, so you can actually connect them in a 3S configuration for right under the 60 volt limit. I purchased them earlier this month and they have been working well so far: amzn.to/40nEGag So with these 180w panels you can purchase 6 of them for a 3S2P configuration and get around the 1000w limit on the power station. I only have three of these panels though. You may find this video helpful when trying to setup a solar array: th-cam.com/video/OZvrTuhJhXs/w-d-xo.html
@@Jasonoid --Thanks for the panel recommendation---I just checked out the Amazon reviews and many are saying that they are never getting close to the full 180 W rating--how have thee been in your hands?
@@kendallcrookston8191 the newer 9bb panels are much better than the 5bb panels. Full rated power can usually only be met in a lab. In daily use you'll see around 80% to 85% output on a great solar day.
The Delta Pro is much bigger than this one, it's in a whole different league. Ecoflow should be coming out with a new Delta 2 Max this year (similar to the Delta 2 but bigger with LFP as well).
Thinking of one of these for my van. The Delta Pro has much more dc capacity. Could you combine both 12v sockets into one to to increase the power and feed a 12v fuse panel? That would probably be enough.
@8:26 I showed pulling as much power as possible from both 12v sockets, I was able to get 265 watts max so you could try to parallel both sockets to see if it works. The only issue would be keeping the load balanced between both 12v ports, that might be an issue.
Great video. I am confused about UPS mode. So if you gave it plugged into the AC outlet, it will go into UPS mode (Bypass mode) and you can only draw 1440W from the outlet so it cannot charge the battery at the same time, or what will happen if you draw 2000W while it is plugged into the AC outlet? What will happen if you have it plug into the AC out bey set the charging to, I.E. 500W and you run the 2000W load at the same time? What i am trying to find out if it has pass through charging or not with either solar or AC charging. The 'Bypass mode' is confusing, it sounds like it has transfer switch that connect the AC outlet directly to the AC input when you have unit plugging into the AC outlet. Thanks.
I'd need to do more testing to fully understand how it functions, it can be complicated. It's always a little confusing when a power station can't charge at the same rate as the inverter output. It would be much more simple if the power station charged at 2000 watts and the inverter was 2000 watts, right? So im my mind, if you run a load over 1440 watts when it's on UPS mode, the battery will begin discharging slowly and it won't be able to keep it full. You basically are passing power straight through the power station until you go over 1440 watts and it will begin using the batteries.
@@budmartin3344 it doesn't 'bypass the battery' while on solar, that only happens with ac power. The solar charges the battery and then stop charging when it hits 100%, the battery will fall in state of charge and then the solar charging kicks back in.
Hi Jason, thanks for the very comprehensive reviews. What an impressive body of work you have established here on YT in a very short time! I look forward to your videos. And thanks for sharing your spreadsheets!! I bought my 767 in March. Regarding the VOC 60 limitation, I have two questions... First, if Anker gets around to addressing this issue by increasing the VOC limit, how likely is it that the solution will take the form of a software upgrade versus a hardware change? Is it realistic to think that an Anker solution would be within eventual reach of us early adopter-customers with our existing devices? (This 60 VOC thing seems like such a poor decision in constructing a marvelous industrial-strength device loaded with features, and then holding customers ransom to proprietary and comparatively puny panels. Feels like someone in marketing prevailed over engineering common sense. Ouch!) Second, in attempting to find and select 180W panels to be used in various combinations of P&S, I find no mention in your review of the need for individual charge controllers for each panel. Is a charge controller warranted for each panel of the solution? (Possibly you have discussed this in another video.) Or can we just expect the inverter in the 767 to manage the cleansing/conditioning of the incoming power captured by the panels without any auxiliary controller? Please share your thoughts on this. Again, many thanks for all you do!
2) The power station has a built in charge controller already that takes the solar power and charges the battery. There is no need to add any external solar charge controller to the setup. 1) The 60v cutoff is limited by the hardware designed inside. There isn't any software update that will be able to change that. You'll want to connect your solar panels in a 2S config so the voltage stays under 60v. Usually a 2S2P wiring setup with 200w solar panels will get you a decent amount of power.
Recently watched your video of the Series and parallel , did you try the BougeRv 180W panels in 2s2p config. with this power unit I'm looking at panels options and don't need to over panel it , actually I think something around 650-700w will work for my needs, if you did try it any issues with over voltage or amps, if not in need of the 1000W is this a setup you'd recommend for this power station, been also considering the JJN Bifacial 200 Watt Solar Panels 12V 10BB in 2s2p, any experience with those?, Thanks again.
In the video I used BougeRV 180w 9BB panels in a 2S2P config and got 550 watts - 660 watts depending on how far away the power station was from the solar panel array. I had 17 amps going over 12awg wire so I was getting a bit of voltage drop. You can only get the 1000 watts by using their special designed solar panels. I have not tested the JJN Bifacial panels before.
I would love to see your comparison of the new ANKER SOLIX F3800, and Goal Zero Yeti Pro 4000 :-) Or maybe I should hold out for the EcoFlow Delta Pro 2
I've heard decent things about those panels. I bet you'd get somewhere around 360 to 400 watts. For the best results I'd recommend wiring them in series.
Yeah, I think we are used to cheaper options since those companies don't hire groups of people to support their product. No support = much cheaper product price. Sometimes that trade off is worth it, just depends on the product.
The build quality and 5-year warranty of this unit is worth a little extra something I think. Plus when it comes to battery and power station, Anker has a reputation for standing behind their products with excellent customer service if needed. So buy once cry once, or buy cheap buy twice. 😉
Inverter has a 2400w limit, or 20 amps max. As long as someone reads the owners manual and knows how many watts their devices pull, it shouldn't be too bad.
Hi,Did you check the polarity of the AC plugs , I've read 2 reviews on Amazon stating that the plugs were miswired hot and neutral backwards!!, Thanks.
When I plugged in my Harbor Freight outlet tester just now, it only shows open ground / floating ground. Hot and neutral are wired correctly on the machine.
I noticed something strange in similar product reviews, that although the 767 version sold in Europe can charge at 2200W-hours, the inverter output is a maximum of 2300W-hours. In the 767 version sold for the USA, the maximum charging power is limited to 1400 W-hours and the inverter power is 2400 W-hours. I couldn't understand the reason for this difference. Are you aware of this situation?
US power is 120v, the max you can get most of the time is 1800w. To be safe Anker only allows 80% of that power for charging, or 1440w. Its so someone doesn't melt any wires.
@Jasonoid absolutely it does! I actually sent back my delta max 2000... lol! 800 life cycles with a firmware they weren't filling to fix ruined this perfect unit. Honestly the delta max until they straighten out the firmware and put the better batteries in it then its just the best "backup only" unit IMO. I'm waiting for the return to go through and getting the delta pro unless I find something that seems more for what I need.
Great review. Just got the 767 with the Anker 400 watt panel. I want to add on but would like to save some $$$ and go with after market panels. I found a 545watt GSTAR (GSP7G72M-545). Operating voltage: 41.75 Voltage at Open-Circuit: 49.60V Operating Current: 13.06A Would this panel be able to run with the Anker PS400 panel? I found it for $185 each. Any help would be appreciated Jason!
So (1) Anker PS400 panel and (1) GSTAR 545 watt panel wired in parallel should be good, right? Just want to make sure that you didn’t mean (2) GSTAR 545 watt panels, since I already have (1) Anker PS400 panel just want to add another panel to my set up to make it charging the 767 quicker and more efficient. I am open to any other panel(s) that I could be using with my (1) PS400 panel! Thanks again for the quick response!
@@johndavenport1571 mismatched panels wired together won't perform quite as well as two matched panels. Since the panels are different you won't get full power from both of them. It's best to use the same panels, but you don't have that option without spending more money.
We’ve seen EV owners hook up inverters to their 12v’s and power small loads like the Anker 767 will do. My question is since the 767 has the inverter built in, could one theoretically use the solar DC input for the 767 as a way to recharge from an EV’s 12v? In other words, power goes out, use the 767 initially and if the outage persists, then hook it up to your EV to extend run time during the outage. Thoughts?
The Anker 767 beats the AC200MAX pretty much everywhere EXCEPT solar input. Its easy to overpanel the AC200MAX and charge for extended periods of time at 920 watts. Buy the charge enchancer and add even more solar. You could argue that the AC200MAX is more expandable as well but by the time you buy a an expansion battery and charge enhancer.... You could have bought the much more capable and wifi enabled Ecoflow Delta Pro.
@@leafnutz2341 Really thanks for the answer, I search for a midle time usage in RV and backup home. I'm not consider the ecoflow because of it lower lifecycle. I really like the Anker an is UPS mode, but prefer the Solar of Bluetti. In time, does Bluetti make update an add UPS mode or stack without? The Anker was limited at 1440watts in UPS mode? Thanks
EcoFlow Delta Pro is LFP, the 1st gen Delta Max is NMC chemistry. EcoFlow is coming out with a new Delta Max gen 2 with LFP soon... I don't have details on it yet.
It's been out for about 6 months, maybe a little more. For the most part it's a great device. I have a full review on it. The solar input is kinda limited with the 60v cutoff. There were a few bugs in the beginning but they have upgraded the firmware to fix those. It's very quiet and puts out very clean power.
Did you verify the DC idle consumption by being able to draw ~1700Wh (0.98 x 1738Wh) from the DC output after first letting it sit for 15 hours? I feel it's important to check the validity of the SoC indicator, since it might not be very accurate when being under very small loads for longer periods.
No I did not, but the meter was registering something going out of the battery since the SOC dropped down over time. If it stayed at 100% I would have had second thoughts and verified via a discharge.
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I was looking for a power station and I first looked at my friend’s Ecoflow Pro. It’s fans are too loud for use indoors. I don’t need the ability to expand to 240 V split phase with two units so I decided on the Anker 767 with the extra battery and I’m really happy with it. 4KWh for $2600, stellar build quality, 93% inverter efficiency, and quiet!
Love how quiet this power station is, great choice!
I really appreciate the UPS testing and recording in your spreadsheet.
I think that data is important, so I'm glad you found it useful!
Was able to snag myself one of these with a 200w solar panel for $1800 on prime day sales. Felt like I won the lottery.
Love your reviews. Just purchased during Amazon Days for 1399.
Seems like a solid unit and great start to 2023. Can’t wait to see how the competitors respond.
The 300w output was very impressive while changing the 3 pps.
Thanks for a great review Jason.
Glad you enjoyed it
P.S. Nice review Jasonoid !!!!!
P.P.S. 2023 is gonna be a bright year for these power stations :)
I'm glad it has wheels so I can tow it behind my e-bike and drive to Mexico.
You just need to build a HUGE solar panel umbrella cover for your bike and you'd be set to drive and charge at the same time!
Another weird "gotcha" with this unit is the 10amp vs 20amp solar charge rate. I tried 2 URE 365 watt panels in parallel (40.7VOC). I couldn't get the unit to charge more than 10amps so I measured VOC at the panels (37V), and again at the ends of my MC4 cables (33.5V). Despite being above the 32 volt threshold for 20amp charging, I couldn't get it out of "10amp mode". I asked Anker for an explanation and they never really answered my question. Long story short, get your VOC up in the high 40's or low 50's for best results. Ankers own 531 panels are 57.6VOC which leaves very little room for cold weather.
Check this case:
Starting at minute 2:45
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Great Video!! Yes biggest take always was no dual charging, low voltage for solar charging and for expansion I dont like the hard rigid cables which makes it a tougher choice for storing or the RV community. When will companies stop making those? Or a updated cable would be great 👍🏼 Over all still a good unit and efficient!
great review. very thorough. thanks for helping me decide which to buy.
You do a very good job of testing and reviewing the devices and clearly laying out the pros and cons. Thanks much
I appreciate the feedback! Thanks Ron
Another awesome video! The most solar I've been able to get into mine is 808 watts (and only for a moment) with 2 Qcell 480 watt bifacial panels. I challenge anyone to overpanel this unit and get the full 1000 watts. Another CON is the expensive expansion battery and you are limited to only 1 expansion battery.
If you find the rare solar panel that has under 20volts open circuit it's possible. NewPowa made some 210w panels that had 19.3VOC and they worked great in a 3S config on all of Bluettis 60v devices. They don't make those panels anymore though....total bummer! I would have recommended them if so!
@@Jasonoid You might have a chance at overpaneling with the JJN 200 watt 12v 10BB bifacial panels. (28.1VOC, 9.12ISC) in a 2S3P configuration but the Anker will only pill 20amps max but that's alot of wiring headache for a couple hundred watts when you can buy a couple large residential panels and wire them in parallel.
For solar would it make any sense to use an inexpensive charge controller + 48v battery so you can wire 150v+ from 3-4S at 10A and then pull 48v@20a from the battery?
Anker is a Good company and looks like alot of options in models to choose from! Information great and great job!2
Thank you Jason 👍🏼 I have a mishmash of panels going on more out of panic pre hurricane buying. So having to buy their panels gets pricey for me. Looks like a great unit the handle and wheels are great for weaklings like me😂 The RV plug really is a huge huge plus! Really like this unit 👍🏼👍🏼
I think it's a great option! Lots of the features people are looking for right now, really good performance.
Why didn't you test the 30 Amp rv plug in?
Thank you for the thorough review! So many other reviews on this unit just read off the spec sheet.
Really wanted to like this one for its size and efficiency while still being just about portable, but those solar charging limits are keeping me holding out for Bluetti refreshing the AC200Max with a bidirectional inverter for UPS and no external brick.
I kinda think they chose those solar limits on purpose as it is basically impossible to hit 1000W nearly exactly except with their ludicrously expensive panels. The only two panels I could find are some 200W fixed panels with Voc of 29V and Vmax of 24.5V so with a 3P2S setup you are technically over paneling at 1200W but only going over on current so the unit would limit that anyway and that’s probably a good thing since you never get full capacity anyway in the real world. Would likely need at least 10 gauge wires if not 8 though for less loss. Also not being able to mix solar and AC for charging is just poor. Solar is essentially free once you have the panels so it should always try to use that and then make up any shortfall with AC. Even the Bluetti EB3A does that.
I do like the use of the GaN circuitry for better efficiency and lower temps. I hope other adopt this like they are doing in other AC chargers as I did have issues with the EB3A overheating with continual use.
I did find some older gen NewPowa 210w panels that had a VOC below 20v, they don't make them anymore unfortunately. Those panels in a 3S config worked really well on any of these power stations with a 60v cutoff.
I own an anker and I would never recommend it to anyone. See my comment above. I bought some cheap $997 no brand name called FFpower of amazon and while it has its limits, it has blown the anker away when considering the price difference, reliability and 20 pounds lighter. However, when it comes to the best inverters, hands down Jackery pro 2000 beats them all. Anker uses over 32 wats while jackery is under 4. Hold out for bluetti if anything, but if you have no need for additional battery packs or the RV hook up, then check out the FFpower no brand name one. I have 2 and have nothing but delight.
Great and very thorough review! I'm glad to see that these things just continue to get better and better. The price is a bit high and since i have too much invested in the AC200MAX with 2 extra batteries and DC charge enhancers, i won't be switching to anything else any time soon. Maybe one of these manufacturers will actually make a good all in one with true split phase 240 VAC operation that will run a medium size load (such as a well pump) for a round a half hour or so without having to buy two along with the bridging adapter. If you look at the Delta 2, then you realize that EcoFlow could easily combine 2 of those in one box, and sell a 2048W LFP with a 3.8 KW 240 VAC split phase for the same price as this Anker unit. That would be a real game changer for 2KW battery size range of solar generators
You may want to look into buying a unit made for Europe. We use 240V single phase as our normal power supply. Be aware it's 50Hz usually but for example the Fossibot F2400 can be switched between 50 and 60 Hz. It has some drawbacks, mainly efficiency, but I'm sure there will be other units that can do the same. Could be a cheap solution for your needs. Your pump won't know whether your are running split phase or single phase as the voltage between your two legs is the same as what we have between live and neutral.
Excellent point with the Delta 2 power stations in 'series'. That would have been a smart move for a small 240v setup. I am going to be reviewing the Zendure Superbase V coming up soon, LFP model. It has both 120v and 240v output in one unit.
Great review Jason! Cool to see we get very similar data, glad the sine wave was so clean and there was so little noise. Jealous you had 3x 100w USB-C PD devices to test with - 560w of DC output is impressive! I agree that the super quiet fans and cooler GaN tech is best in class. This feels super simple and solid, it just works. 9.5 is really good, I didn’t expect that high a score
This unit checks all the boxes and has a great build quality. The only downside in my opinion is the 60v solar limit. Even at 500 to 600 watts input it will still charge in 5 hours or less, it just would have been BEST to get the full 1000 watts.
This is my concern. I want power back in and not to carry multiple panels.
Looks really good despite the solar charging issue, which is pretty huge. Anker better get moving on making some rigid panels.
I've purchased the F2000 along with 2 PS400 panels. Unfortunately, the max input has been 518, and that was for a very short period as they dropped to 440 after the panels got hot. I've tested it many times, changing the angles, one panel at a time, on many different days and again on a fully clear day only to max out at a constant 403-404 rate with one panel being better than the other by about 20W. Either my F2000 is faulty, or I got a set of bad panels. I'm waiting to see how Anker will address this. This was just received on July 22.
I'm a hard-core Anker advocate, so this will be a test of my loyalty to their products. And I own many various products of theirs.
How long is the wiring between the solar panels and the power station? What gauge wire are you using?
The main two reasons I did not choose the anker is the price and the 60-volt solar limit. Other than that, it looks like a great unit.
I went with a Pecron 2000. Great price right now on sale and the fact it takes up to 95 volts of solar in both inputs made it perfect for me. I got the unit yesterday and charged it with my 4 230-watt panels today with no issues other than tree shade and clouds. It was getting 66 volts from both sets in series.
If you were not aware, the newest version of the Pecron 2000 puts out 120 volts on the ac inverter now. I have not tested the usbc ports yet or the 12 volt side.
Percon 3000 with the Trolly looks really cool but the short warranty, charging brick, and lack of a TT30 were deal breakers for me.
I figured out the using a 2S 5P solar array with 100w renogy panels get you to about 1000 W input
So much competition now . In the 2000wh range I'm actually leaning towards the pecron e2000 lfp for my next purchase. But wow I love what Anker is doing and already years of proven support an established trusted company.
Make sure you watch Ramblin Bob's Percon e2000lfp videos to get familiar with it, hes got like 20 of them. I think that's a great budget unit.
@Jasonoid - Solar Power, Batteries, and More! yeah I've have been. Seen a couple of your comments on his videos as well.
I can't keep up with his videos lol... He puts out like 3 a day
@Jasonoid - Solar Power, Batteries, and More! lol! Well He doesn't call himself Ramblin Bob for nothing
Are they “trusted” though? They did have a recent debacle with their Eufy line of home cameras where they lied to customers. But I think I know what you mean, their battery banks and chargers seem to be quite solid.
Thanks for this super informative video Jason! We are thinking of buying something in this range and this review was super helpful! I appreciate your thorough reviews!
Katy
Great video as always! Looks like a nice power station as well. I have the anker 757 and 555 myself and a delta 2 and river 2 all of witch I bought after watching your reviews on them.
Great review! We reached the same conclusion. Awesome unit.
This unit is very high quality!
As of this date,4-21-24 I have found this unit at $1,395 (New) not refurbished which drops the cost per watt way back.
Man, I'd like to get my hands on one of these! Anker really should expand to South Africa, EVERYBODY's in the market for power stations as our power utility is sliding down the toilet in a hurry. We have regular blackouts (they don't like that word, it's called "loadshedding") each day. And it's only going to get worse. With winter coming up, everybody's buying portable power stations left & right, and I'll predict extra batteries in no time after. I've done quite a bit of research, and the best available here is the Ecoflow. It's 30% heavier, doesn't have that nice pull-out handle to move around, and it's way too loud for my taste. If you work from home, have to do recordings and editing, as well as regular online meetings...well, you want as little noise interference as possible. This looks like the real deal.
Looks pretty good. Nice build too.
Just bought my AC200. Can't doubt my decision now 😄
Great review Jason! I'm really impressed by Anker's performance and efficiency. I think the only one more efficient is the Pecron E2000LFP. Completely agree on the low solar input voltage and needing another 12V port that's not the horrible cigarette lighter port. The input voltage really needs to be higher. While it can recharge at the ~600W in ~4hr, that's with no load. I use my power stations under load while solar charging, so I need the ability to charge within 2-3hrs at no-load conditions so I can fully recharge while I'm using the power station.
The Anker is like a full featured Pecron. Unfortunately, while the features are nice, I can't justify the cost difference. Plus the Pecron is expandable to 8kWh. But that little extra output capability on the Anker inverter is nice. I've overloaded the Pecron 2000W inverter.
BTW, do you plan to test the Oupes Mega 5? That one like very interesting with a massive 4kW inverter and expandable to 10kWh. Though some of their numbers are marketing hype, like their 2250W solar input that isn't realizable due to their 15A current limit.
No plans to test the Oupes product at this point. Maybe later this year.
I would really like to buy the OUPES Mega 5 Solar Generator but it is early on indiegogo and I don't trust it, partly because of no US support.
I agree it's a very nice unit, but at $0.97/Wh and the fact that you're almost forced to buy their solar panels means I would give it a pass. Also, I am of the opinion that the UPS function is inadequate, especially for servers and other critical electronics. 10 milliamps/second or less is for me the standard; 3 out of 4 successful events is actually unacceptable. I went looking to see if I could find a 12v/5150 converter to plug into one of the 12v sockets, but could not find one readily available. This was a nice review and you are very thorough - thanks!
Nice review! The price may be premium, but this looks like a premium product (like everything else I've seen from Anker). I am again considering another power station, and it would be a big one. I used my budget on a very nice laptop lately (instead of buying a years-old refurb, I got a new Thinkpad T16), so I'll need to wait, but this one checks all the boxes I need. Askive reviewed another interesting model lately, but this one looks better.
So close to perfect, c'mon Anker give us 100V+ solar input!
It’s crazy that the AC inverter with no load uses 10% more power over 12 hours than running a fridge off DC for 12 hours.
Thank you for another great review.
Too bad with the low Solar Input. If I am going to spend 2 grand on a Solar Generator, I expect a solid MPPT controller for decent Solar Input (or even better two MPPT's for dual). I mean, how are you even going to hook up rigid solar panels? I can not connect even two of my qcells 340 W in series with the low Voc max of the Anker of 60 Volts.
Too bad, as I have a feeling, this unit is better quality and customer service than Bluetti and Ecoflow. And definitely quieter, the noise from the competition is a deal-breaker for me, unfortunately this lack of Solar Input on the Anker is probably a deal-breaker as well. I guess, I have to go with Pecron. Best compromise, and great value-for-money, I feel.
Mahalo,
Appreciate the great review.
Aloha
Great job! This is one of the ones I was interested in. I'm hoping to see an Oupes Mega review sometime.
Oupes seems to have stepped up their design, I can't say their support group would come close to Anker's though. I've had complaints on my channel about Oupes support.
Great review! I just purchased the 767 with 2x200w solar panels. Trying to decide on ordering an expansion battery or another 767 unit. With my Anker credits its a difference of about $400cdn for me to buy a second 767. Would you have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Jake.
The expansion batteries don't have any ports or additional charging so in my opinion it would be more useful to have two main head units. Then you can double your solar charging as your inverter output. You could be charging one and using the other at the same time and then swap them back and forth as needed.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for the reply, you have some very good points. I agree a second 767 would be more versatile. Thanks again, Jake
looks like a great unit, if i didn't already have my ffpower p2001, i would be very interested in this unit.
having 120v instead of 110v is a great option.
being able to set the charging rate is a great option to have on the anker, though i can reduce the charging rate on the p2001 by putting a load on it while it's charging.
and of course the bluetooth app is also a nice addition.
THANK YOU! I just updated the description and the pinned comment with that link to the spreadsheet.
Great review! Quiet is good. What about surge wattage? Window AC for blackouts in Florida is a concern.
This will run a 5000btu to 7500 btu window ac unit just fine 👍
@@Jasonoid Excellent! Thanks for the reply. I saw another review that was saying it was not running his AC right, possibly from improper dirty sine waves. Thoughts?
@@farmerjones5233 this has a great pure sine inverter output. How big was the AC unit they were trying to test?
@@Jasonoid Exactly, no idea, but it was running, it just sounded off, and he had the same problem with a pool pump, both devices ran fine when he put a different battery on it. Ecoflow. I’ll find the link for you. I was thinking for me, the 5000 BTU would be perfect. It’s about a 450 watt unit so that should run fine along with the fridge and freezer. I ordered one yesterday and I asked tech support about the surge capacity. He said 2700. I thought that was strange. Link to that vid. th-cam.com/video/0ULwB0YSfsY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7SkFqfIZP4ve0OUs
Very fine review! I like the Anker, but given I have two Delta 2s that will last quite awhile, I’m not ready for another “solar” generator just now.
The Delta 2s are an excellent option! Thanks for watching 👍
Great review on what looks like a very solid unit, despite the voltage limitation on solar charging! How does the expansion battery hook up?
Theres a port on the back of the unit. I showed a clip of that at the very end of the video. It uses a cable between the main unit and the expansion battery. Check out Todd Parker's review, he has the expansion battery and was able to test it.
The way products reviews should be done. Great video.
One thing on the price it does come down if you have the need for more battery power and add the expansion battery
Absolutely excellent video. Very well done! Just one question, how come in the video you say that this power station got a 9.5 based on your rating system but in your google sheet it has a score of 8.5?
I have updated the power station grading system to the 2.0 system. It uses stricter standards now so all grades were adjusted.
💚 Thanks Jason great review 🐾🐾
Glad you enjoyed it
Great review and good product. My only concern is the 60 volt max.
Could (2) 100 watt 24 volt panels be combined with (1) 200 watt 45 volt panel?
Off grid camping input a challenge. Output great with Rv connection. But power in is a safety must for me if no power but Sun.
Jason, do you think the 767 will have issues starting a Midea Duo 14,000 BTU inverter portable air conditioner? I ask because of how surge is managed. The Midea only ever pulls about 1200w on my meter, but I have not measured inrush on high cool situations where it is in a hot room at start. Any insight I appreciated, as this is a big use case for me. The Media inverter backs off nicely and ramps way down but I have to run when it peaks!
I just bought a Delta pro because they remain the best in class for power input, output and recharge. The Anker is a great choice for people who want less power, but if you’re going for something to back up your house then go bigger.
I also get the 30% tax rebate because the Ecoflow Delta Pro is over 3,000kwh. So the battery, solar panels, and an EV charger (bundle from Costco) is only $2,000 after that rebate and MUCH more powerful than the anker 767 at the same price (without panels).
I will say Ankers Solar panels are much better.
Glad you found something that will work well for you. The Delta Pro is an excellent option as well and EcoFlow has great customer service. That tax rebate sure helps too!
Hmm, my COSTCO only has the Delta Max 2000 😞
This looks good, but more than my current budget. I am looking for a battery and solar system backup (not grid replacement) in the $1500 range. What would you suggest for the generator and solar panels?
Oukitel /FFpower P2001units are a great budget option, only 500 watts of solar though
Pecron E2000LFP can take a bit more solar but doesn't have UPS or fast charging
DaranEner NEO2000 is also another great budget option
I wish this unit had come out prior to purchasing the ac200 max. That being said, I’m pretty happy with it
Both units have very similar features and their advantages. The Bluetti AC200max allows for much higher 'attainable' solar charging and the Anker has the fast wall charging and UPS mode. It just depends how you plan to use your power stations.
Thank you SO much for a thorough review of a very tempting power station. Your points are excellent. I would buy this right now IF, like you pointed out, it had dual-charging AND more than 60volts to allow 1000w of any other brand of panels ( like most of us have ). Do you think there is any likelihood of Anker upgrading to Dual-charging & higher solar wattage ?
Maybe in the next Gen, probably not on this current model. Ecoflow will be coming out with a new Delta 2 Max with LFP batteries that should compete very closely to this one but it shouldn't have those solar limits.
AGREE
Will you be doing a review on the F2600 which is the replacement for the F2000?
Hi thank you I have been looking at this, so very helpful, was also interested in the expansion battery do you have any info on that . Great review well did. 👍🐝🌞
Todd Parker recently tested the expansion battery in his review, seems pretty simple. Check out his video, it's excellent.
@@Jasonoid ok thank you, 👍🐝🌞
Jason, I just purchased the Anker 767. Can you connect regular 100w panels to this & how many could I do in series? I own newpowa 21.8V / 5.55A? Thank you in advance
You can build an array of 8 of those panels, you would connect 4 of them in parallel, and then connect the other 4 panels in parallel, and then connect those two strings into series (4p2s). That would keep your total voltage under 60v and you amps right around 20 amps for peak power input using those panels. Just do not connect those panels in series higher than 2S or the voltage will go over 60v.
Outstanding review, however I was wondering if you ran into two "serious" issues with your testing. 1. The issue with fluctuating power to window AC units. (This has supposedly been fix with a firmware update). 2. The problem of reversed wiring of the 4 120v outlets. Did you test these?
These all have been fixed since release.
Thanks a lot for the review Jason, i bought this unitt now but i would like to plug stronger (400 W ) solar panels. Wich ones would you recommend that would work with this unit + i would surelly need plug adaptors correct?
I'd recommend checking out this video that shows how to know which solar panels with with your specific power station:
th-cam.com/video/4JG8LvJznLY/w-d-xo.html
If they change this unit to dual charging would be the great unit for RV and I will buy it.
Hi Jason. Great video and impressive power station. To overcome your power loss in the solar test, could you increase the cable size from your 12 awg to say...8 awg? Would the connectors on the 8 awg still work with the mc4 connectors on the panels?
10awg or 8 awg would get you much less voltage drop, the 8 awg would be ideal. I think you could trim a little bit of the copper strands so it would fit into the MC4 adapter if needed. They also have prefab 8awg solar cables online.
Love it and would buy one if I had money to just use but when I can just build another 280ah battery for under 700 bucks...
Very nice review , is it true that you can't use extension cords with this power station , read that somewhere and found it strange , did you try that , if not can you please ty it and let us know, Thanks and keep up the good work.
You can use extension cords, just don't use the junky 18awg, 16awg ones or you'll start a fire. You need to make sure you are using high quality 12awg (gauge) extension cables that can handle 1800 watts.
@@Jasonoid Perfect thanks for the info!
Great video. What is the capacity of the battery in amp hours? I’m trying to compare it to standalone lithium batteries which are typically rated in Ah.
Each 100ah battery has 1280wh of capacity. This has around 2048wh or 160ah of capacity.
Yeah Ita cool to have the 2 12v sockets but I still don't like them ha. It would have been nice to see a 12 and 24 or one of them as a dual 12 / 24v.
Make the max solar port voltage 150V, and allow dual charging with solar charge priority (maybe even a state of charge limit to start ac charging), and this would best pretty much anything in this price range.
Agreed.
Excellent Video. I am looking for a down Grid solution and like everything else, there is a lot to learn. What do you think about getting a cheap gas powered generator to charge instead of solar panels? ETA: Have you tested the Mango E?
The Mango e had nothing but problems for me. It was so bad I sent it back without doing a video. I'm sure they will get the bugs worked out eventually.
Charging these up with a generator is a great plan, you don't need solar panels. Solar panels are nice because they are silent and can produce power for years!
@@Jasonoid Thanks
Thank you for the thorough review. You pointed out that the low voltage / high amp combination of solar panels in parallel means that there is significant loss when running longer cables. I would like to place some of the Anker 531 solar panels outside during the summer, but store the 767 indoors. Would it be better to get an extension cable for running between the splitter and the unit, or separate extension cables for each panel (and keep the run from the splitter to the unit as short as possible?) How long of an extension could I run? Thank you!
Great question! If you wanted to run one cable for all the solar panels I would look for a 8awg cable to be able to handle the 20 amps over a long distance. 10 awg would also work but you'd see a little more power loss on that size of wiring. If it was cheaper you could also run 14awg cables from each panel (they put out 5 amps each) and you wouldn't get much voltage drop that way either. Multiple options, I'd go with the cheapest one you can work out.
You may find this video helpful too: th-cam.com/video/AZIBmFBzBGs/w-d-xo.html
@@Jasonoid Dude, thank you so much for this detailed answer. I will look for a good 8awg cable then, to keep things simple.
And yes I watched that video yesterday. Your channel is an excellent resource for solar information. Thanks and keep it up!
Thank you for the great review(s)!
We are planning to build a campervan and thinking of using a powerhouse as main powersource. So far we would go for the Anker 767 + expansion battery. Since we will be off-grid most of the time, we are trying to find alternative ways to charge the powerhouse. The company that sells this powerhouse in The Netherlands wrote me that its not possible to charge the powerhouse will driving using the starting battery. I already thought that's weird..
I ended up checking another video from you about using converters like the Victron Orion, but I still have troubles understanding what are the things I should keep in mind. Since we don't want to end up with a dead starting battery ;-)
I guess the size of the battery in amps or amp-hours is important?
As long as your engine is running, charging off the car alternator / starter battery is fine. I'd recommend going with the Orion 12v to 24v boost converter and I'd recommend adjusting the voltage all the way up to 29v.
That won't be too stressful on your car alternator system, but it will charge the power station at a decent amount.
@@Jasonoid after checking some of your other reviews & grading sheet I'm doubting to reconsider my decision. I think cause of the dual charging (solar and thru a converter that's connected to the starting battery) the Jackery Explorer 2000 Plus would be a better (and more expensive) choice.
@@KickAssPhoeniX the Jackery 2000plus wouldnt support solar and the DC to DC converter at the same time. The DC ports on the Jackery require the same voltage input, which can't work with solar and DC to DC converter since the voltages are different.
I'd recommend the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max. It's quiet, it has dual DC Charging ports that will allow you to get solar and the DC to DC converter at the same time. If you need more explanation, you'll need to reach out to me here:
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Another option with similar features would be the Ugreen 2200.
I think I will stick with my Ecoflow Delta 2000, It does just fine,. And my ice box is just like yours and my Ecoflow runs it with close to 50% power after 24 hours. thky great video .. dan t.
EcoFlow makes an excellent product! Glad it's working great for you.
thanks for great review, just wondering is it possible turn on and off AC charging by app with wifi? thanks
It automatically charges when plugged in, you can get a smart outlet and turn on and off the outlet so you can control the charging via that outlet though. Just an option.
@@Jasonoid oh that's great idea thanks bro
I really like this unit. The one thing I don't get about these units is why they aren't designed to work exactly like a computer UPS when in UPS mode. If your computer UPS runs down its battery and shuts off, it will automatically restart once grid power is restored. This unit requires manually turning the AC outlets back on. I don't know why you can't have a setting in the firmware that says - for now you are a UPS and should behave the same way, including restoring passed through AC power to the outlets whenever AC power is restored.
I agree! I wish all power stations would enable that simple feature. The ONLY brand that I know of that does is the DuranEner E2000.
Can you use it while it charges?
Yes, it does allow charging and discharging at the same time.
After seeing this review and a couple others, I purchased my own Anker 767, but haven't bought any solar panels yet. I would really like to see your recommendations on solar panels specifically for this solar generator, besides the Anker solar panels you mentioned in this video. Also, I was really impressed with your testing thoroughness and explanations of your reasoning for the scores you gave. Would love to see a video that matches that thoroughness for the solar panels. My Anker 767 arrived last Friday and I want to get some solar panels ordered asap. I plan to mount the panels onto the roof of a camping trailer, but the trailer will be parked close enough to use the solar for charging the 767 while I'm at home as well as camping.
There are two ways to go:
1) In the video I used the BougeRV 9BB 180w panels in a 2S2P configuration. The VOC for these panels is around 23 volts, so too high to put into a 3S configuration (the voltage would go over 60volts).
2) I actually found some panels that have 19 volts VOC, so you can actually connect them in a 3S configuration for right under the 60 volt limit. I purchased them earlier this month and they have been working well so far: amzn.to/40nEGag So with these 180w panels you can purchase 6 of them for a 3S2P configuration and get around the 1000w limit on the power station. I only have three of these panels though.
You may find this video helpful when trying to setup a solar array:
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@@Jasonoid --Thanks for the panel recommendation---I just checked out the Amazon reviews and many are saying that they are never getting close to the full 180 W rating--how have thee been in your hands?
@@kendallcrookston8191 the newer 9bb panels are much better than the 5bb panels. Full rated power can usually only be met in a lab. In daily use you'll see around 80% to 85% output on a great solar day.
Our Solar Arrays are similar 2S 2P, did you keep this configuration and just plug into two of the slots on the provided adapter?
Jason please do a head to head with the Eco float Delta pro
The Delta Pro is much bigger than this one, it's in a whole different league. Ecoflow should be coming out with a new Delta 2 Max this year (similar to the Delta 2 but bigger with LFP as well).
Thinking of one of these for my van. The Delta Pro has much more dc capacity. Could you combine both 12v sockets into one to to increase the power and feed a 12v fuse panel? That would probably be enough.
@8:26 I showed pulling as much power as possible from both 12v sockets, I was able to get 265 watts max so you could try to parallel both sockets to see if it works. The only issue would be keeping the load balanced between both 12v ports, that might be an issue.
Great video. I am confused about UPS mode. So if you gave it plugged into the AC outlet, it will go into UPS mode (Bypass mode) and you can only draw 1440W from the outlet so it cannot charge the battery at the same time, or what will happen if you draw 2000W while it is plugged into the AC outlet?
What will happen if you have it plug into the AC out bey set the charging to, I.E. 500W and you run the 2000W load at the same time? What i am trying to find out if it has pass through charging or not with either solar or AC charging. The 'Bypass mode' is confusing, it sounds like it has transfer switch that connect the AC outlet directly to the AC input when you have unit plugging into the AC outlet. Thanks.
I'd need to do more testing to fully understand how it functions, it can be complicated. It's always a little confusing when a power station can't charge at the same rate as the inverter output. It would be much more simple if the power station charged at 2000 watts and the inverter was 2000 watts, right?
So im my mind, if you run a load over 1440 watts when it's on UPS mode, the battery will begin discharging slowly and it won't be able to keep it full. You basically are passing power straight through the power station until you go over 1440 watts and it will begin using the batteries.
@@Jasonoid Yes, it is confusing, the user manual does not make it clear either. Does it do pass through charging using solar?
@@budmartin3344 it doesn't 'bypass the battery' while on solar, that only happens with ac power. The solar charges the battery and then stop charging when it hits 100%, the battery will fall in state of charge and then the solar charging kicks back in.
Hi Jason, thanks for the very comprehensive reviews. What an impressive body of work you have established here on YT in a very short time! I look forward to your videos. And thanks for sharing your spreadsheets!!
I bought my 767 in March. Regarding the VOC 60 limitation, I have two questions...
First, if Anker gets around to addressing this issue by increasing the VOC limit, how likely is it that the solution will take the form of a software upgrade versus a hardware change? Is it realistic to think that an Anker solution would be within eventual reach of us early adopter-customers with our existing devices? (This 60 VOC thing seems like such a poor decision in constructing a marvelous industrial-strength device loaded with features, and then holding customers ransom to proprietary and comparatively puny panels. Feels like someone in marketing prevailed over engineering common sense. Ouch!)
Second, in attempting to find and select 180W panels to be used in various combinations of P&S, I find no mention in your review of the need for individual charge controllers for each panel. Is a charge controller warranted for each panel of the solution? (Possibly you have discussed this in another video.) Or can we just expect the inverter in the 767 to manage the cleansing/conditioning of the incoming power captured by the panels without any auxiliary controller? Please share your thoughts on this.
Again, many thanks for all you do!
2) The power station has a built in charge controller already that takes the solar power and charges the battery. There is no need to add any external solar charge controller to the setup.
1) The 60v cutoff is limited by the hardware designed inside. There isn't any software update that will be able to change that. You'll want to connect your solar panels in a 2S config so the voltage stays under 60v. Usually a 2S2P wiring setup with 200w solar panels will get you a decent amount of power.
Recently watched your video of the Series and parallel , did you try the BougeRv 180W panels in 2s2p config. with this power unit I'm looking at panels options and don't need to over panel it , actually I think something around 650-700w will work for my needs, if you did try it any issues with over voltage or amps, if not in need of the 1000W is this a setup you'd recommend for this power station, been also considering the JJN Bifacial 200 Watt Solar Panels 12V 10BB in 2s2p, any experience with those?, Thanks again.
In the video I used BougeRV 180w 9BB panels in a 2S2P config and got 550 watts - 660 watts depending on how far away the power station was from the solar panel array. I had 17 amps going over 12awg wire so I was getting a bit of voltage drop. You can only get the 1000 watts by using their special designed solar panels.
I have not tested the JJN Bifacial panels before.
Please advise on feasibility of 12v to 48v step up converter, with the understanding that wiring would be sufficient
This is one of the best 12v to 48v converters right now. It comes with the wiring and fuse. It puts out 42v.
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I would love to see your comparison of the new ANKER SOLIX F3800, and Goal Zero Yeti Pro 4000 :-) Or maybe I should hold out for the EcoFlow Delta Pro 2
Lots of really cool things coming to the market soon! Let's see what I can get my hands on :)
Does it support 240 VAC charging? Also, some outlet covers on the AC outputs would be nice.
It only charged with 120v @ 1400 watts. Still pretty fast for a 2000wh battery. I think the outlet covers are a good idea.
Is the battery chemistry free from catching on fire?
Yes, Lifepo4 is a safe battery chemistry with no fire risk. If it was a lithium ion NMC battery you'd want to be cautious.
just curious......can you use the Jackery 200w SolarSaga panel to charge this unit
Do you think 2 of the rich solar 200 watt 12v panels would actually pull near 400 watts on a good clear day?
I've heard decent things about those panels. I bet you'd get somewhere around 360 to 400 watts. For the best results I'd recommend wiring them in series.
This particular unit has WI-FI or only Bluetooth ?
Both
Do they have a box that would hook two of these together for 240v?
Good review, thank you. Unit is a little expensive!
Yeah, I think we are used to cheaper options since those companies don't hire groups of people to support their product. No support = much cheaper product price. Sometimes that trade off is worth it, just depends on the product.
The build quality and 5-year warranty of this unit is worth a little extra something I think. Plus when it comes to battery and power station, Anker has a reputation for standing behind their products with excellent customer service if needed. So buy once cry once, or buy cheap buy twice. 😉
That RV connection is deceiving. Typical RV hookups are 30amps, so I'm guessing this is the same as the standard AC outlets 20amps?
Inverter has a 2400w limit, or 20 amps max. As long as someone reads the owners manual and knows how many watts their devices pull, it shouldn't be too bad.
Hi,Did you check the polarity of the AC plugs , I've read 2 reviews on Amazon stating that the plugs were miswired hot and neutral backwards!!, Thanks.
When I plugged in my Harbor Freight outlet tester just now, it only shows open ground / floating ground. Hot and neutral are wired correctly on the machine.
@@Jasonoid Thanks👍
I noticed something strange in similar product reviews, that although the 767 version sold in Europe can charge at 2200W-hours, the inverter output is a maximum of 2300W-hours.
In the 767 version sold for the USA, the maximum charging power is limited to 1400 W-hours and the inverter power is 2400 W-hours. I couldn't understand the reason for this difference. Are you aware of this situation?
US power is 120v, the max you can get most of the time is 1800w. To be safe Anker only allows 80% of that power for charging, or 1440w. Its so someone doesn't melt any wires.
This unit is definitely compared to the delta Max 2000. Low voltage solar input does kinda suck but 1000 watts is nice input!
I love the competition these days, brings all the good features out of these companies!
@Jasonoid absolutely it does! I actually sent back my delta max 2000... lol! 800 life cycles with a firmware they weren't filling to fix ruined this perfect unit. Honestly the delta max until they straighten out the firmware and put the better batteries in it then its just the best "backup only" unit IMO. I'm waiting for the return to go through and getting the delta pro unless I find something that seems more for what I need.
Great review. Just got the 767 with the Anker 400 watt panel. I want to add on but would like to save some $$$ and go with after market panels. I found a 545watt GSTAR (GSP7G72M-545).
Operating voltage: 41.75
Voltage at Open-Circuit: 49.60V
Operating Current: 13.06A
Would this panel be able to run with the Anker PS400 panel? I found it for $185 each. Any help would be appreciated Jason!
You can run those panels in parallel just fine (two of them), not in series. Series will have too high of voltage.
Thanks Jason for the fast response! Much obliged!
So (1) Anker PS400 panel and (1) GSTAR 545 watt panel wired in parallel should be good, right? Just want to make sure that you didn’t mean (2) GSTAR 545 watt panels, since I already have (1) Anker PS400 panel just want to add another panel to my set up to make it charging the 767 quicker and more efficient. I am open to any other panel(s) that I could be using with my (1) PS400 panel! Thanks again for the quick response!
@@johndavenport1571 mismatched panels wired together won't perform quite as well as two matched panels. Since the panels are different you won't get full power from both of them. It's best to use the same panels, but you don't have that option without spending more money.
We’ve seen EV owners hook up inverters to their 12v’s and power small loads like the Anker 767 will do. My question is since the 767 has the inverter built in, could one theoretically use the solar DC input for the 767 as a way to recharge from an EV’s 12v?
In other words, power goes out, use the 767 initially and if the outage persists, then hook it up to your EV to extend run time during the outage. Thoughts?
That would work, if the EV's 12v battery is charged by the larger car battery as is dies down.
Hi, really good video. If it possible make a good 1 on 1 battle with Bluetti AC200MAX. I'M hesitated on this two unit. Thanks
The Anker 767 beats the AC200MAX pretty much everywhere EXCEPT solar input. Its easy to overpanel the AC200MAX and charge for extended periods of time at 920 watts. Buy the charge enchancer and add even more solar. You could argue that the AC200MAX is more expandable as well but by the time you buy a an expansion battery and charge enhancer.... You could have bought the much more capable and wifi enabled Ecoflow Delta Pro.
@@leafnutz2341 Really thanks for the answer, I search for a midle time usage in RV and backup home. I'm not consider the ecoflow because of it lower lifecycle. I really like the Anker an is UPS mode, but prefer the Solar of Bluetti. In time, does Bluetti make update an add UPS mode or stack without? The Anker was limited at 1440watts in UPS mode? Thanks
EcoFlow Delta Pro is LFP, the 1st gen Delta Max is NMC chemistry. EcoFlow is coming out with a new Delta Max gen 2 with LFP soon... I don't have details on it yet.
I agree that the Bluetti has this beat on solar input and has wireless charging but the big downside is the loud, slow power brick
@@todd.parker Thanks for this specification.
How long has the 767 been out in the marketplace? Also, any thoughts on doing an update on what issues you may have found with your 767?
It's been out for about 6 months, maybe a little more. For the most part it's a great device. I have a full review on it. The solar input is kinda limited with the 60v cutoff. There were a few bugs in the beginning but they have upgraded the firmware to fix those. It's very quiet and puts out very clean power.
Did you verify the DC idle consumption by being able to draw ~1700Wh (0.98 x 1738Wh) from the DC output after first letting it sit for 15 hours? I feel it's important to check the validity of the SoC indicator, since it might not be very accurate when being under very small loads for longer periods.
No I did not, but the meter was registering something going out of the battery since the SOC dropped down over time. If it stayed at 100% I would have had second thoughts and verified via a discharge.
Thanks!
Thank you!