Hire Bike Review: Scott CR1 2017 (Pro Cyclery, Las Vegas)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Here's my look at the Scott CR1 2017 road bike we've hired from Pro Cyclery, Las Vegas. We filmed this during our Red Rock Canyon loop today on the bike (we rode out from downtown and back).
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Why are the brakes reversed in some countries? Well, it all depends on which side of the road that people drive on and old fashioned hand signals.
A long time ago, cars didn't have turn indicators, so the driver would stick out their arm and signal their intentions. This carried over to bicycles. It was believed that it was safer for a cyclist to use the back brake when only one hand was available (the other hand being used to signal).
So in countries that the driver is on the left hand side of the car (such as the US), the back brake will be on the right, and in countries where the driver is on the right hand side of the car (such as Australia and the UK), the back brake will be on the left.
It's a hire bike, I'm not so sure why a larger range of gears would be so confusing! There's likely to be a high variety in the level of fitness between the number of people using a hire bike. Also having 'too much range' can never be a bad thing, click down a gear if that big old 32 is intimidating you!
J MC first
I purchased this CR1 and my opinion it's a great bike for me at the moment, live the way it rides and how it handles turns and up hill no problem at all. I give this bike on my terms a 10.
I like ProCyclery. The staff there have been beyond helpful. I'm in Vegas once a month but when I've needed them they've come through.
Love the lady in the beginning strolling in the background
Your comment about the Ultra Sport tyres is on point. I got a pair based on cost & colour & found them awesome. Recently I have found my wheels slipping out from under me. To use the F1 terminology they defiantly 'fall off the cliff'.
It would be good to hear your opinion on tyres as no one deals with these topics & us noobs waste our time, money & skin trying to find good grip. Your 'feel' based reviews would defo suit this.
Thanks again for all your great content. You got me into smart trainers & Zwift 👍🏼
Apologies for the long comment
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The brakes are reversed so your rear brake is on the kerb side so you can brake with the back brake and signal a left turn across the oncoming traffic
Just reserved a couple bikes through Pro Cyclery, mentioned your review. They wanted to assure me that tire patches are now included in every kit. :)
Seem like great folks, can't wait to do this ride in a few days!
Awesome! :)
34/32 could be to make any heavier riders happy. 34/32 allows me to spin up moderate inclines and limits how hard I have to grind that low cadence up very steep. Even my petite wife is thinking about switching to compact 11-32 just because she loves to climb. Still got plenty of options for flat rides. But more flexibility if you want to climb.
I go to Vegas every year. It's hillier than it looks. Constantly rollers. My favorite back up wheel set were shimano rs10, and those look identical with low spoke count front 16(fast front wheel), and a dished rear wheel with offset spoke holes on rim to improve stiffness. They aren't light but somehow they pull it off and they feel plenty fast
I ride a Cr1, it's a great frameset, it used to be a premium range for Scott, but with the new Solace they pushed this series to the lower end. Great climbing bike, Stuart O'Grady used this frame for Paris Roubaix.
Fred Gearing - HAHAHHAA. DurianRider is going to flip
Gotta say that +Shane Miller made me feel awesome about having those exact same ratios, although in my defence I do weigh approximately "a small child" more than him ;-)
Had my RS11's for about a year. I think they're great. 🤘🏽
50/34 and 32 cassette is the perfect gearing for all kind of riding. Who needs a 53-11?!?! nobody in the amateur world of cycling.
Did a trans alp tour last year and with all the bags an stuff on the bike, the 34/32 was used a lot on the gavia and stelvio
+Northvegan Cycling Fair call for that application, but not this bike. And with these downhills, tailwinds, and big open roads - everyone needs a 53/11! :)
53/39 and 32 cassette is my favourite. 39/32 is only slightly taller than a 34/28.
Glad you guys found some good cycling out there!
hey Shane, in the Uk i got my multi tool taken off me when it was in my hand luggage, but no problems when i put the tool in my suitcase which went in the planes hull... same with co2 gear..
0:16 God bless America
Random fat woman in the desert 😂
Those brakes look to be standard shimano non series componentry
Same as crank set. Tiagra level stuff. Heavy but well performing.
Descending LH side of road, leaning into a LH turns which will be tighter (inside of hairpin), your inside hand (left) will be dominant => you want it on rear brake.
Vice versa for RH side of road descents
Nice review. With regards to the CO2 canisters. QANTAS allows up to 4 to be carried in checked baggage provided you get an approval letter from them. Easy to do.. ring them and they'll email it to you. Cheers.
have FUN!!
Shane ... the Specialized Allez is a 2x9 speed just FYI - current models
Reverse Brakes: I have been told it is so you can signal with your inside hand while still having the other hand on the back brake.
That pan at the end... very artistic Work from Von? 😂
Nice bike!
The brakes and crank are actually sub-105 non-series shimano bits. 11spd 105 cranks and brake calipers greatly resemble ulteg/dura what with the 4 arm crank and complex looking caliper mechanism.
Not that i'd be complaining, although they shouldn't really call that being fitted with ultegra...
Hey Shane in Italy you rode the gava pass and in Vagus looks like you had a munster pass at 0.23? was she lost?
Good video, and great to see you and Von riding at the end..will there be more riding footage? ;-))
Yep. I've got a whole video on the ride out, up, and around the loop. This one was quick and easy to edit and upload, so it came first.
Cool thanks, Shane! At 7:58 when you look back at Von, and you're both smiling, that'd make great still shot!
Nice Dutch themed cycling shorts Shane ;). Interesting to hear that you have the front brake on the right. I used to have that on my city bike, but not on my road bike. 8 years on, sometimes I still get confused, though on instinct I seem to brake right
They were free ones from Von who did a week tour/guide thing at the Tour Down Under. I'm not sure the company who made them knew they were national colours/stripes. They're really nice (and free) knicks though.
In the southwest, that kind of gearing is pretty normal wherever there's mountains around and for people who actually ride in and up them (unless they're a toothpick with a freakishly high FTP) - I'm in SoCal, and one of the first things I did when I moved here was go to an 11-32 in the rear and stick the 34T back on in place of the 36T. I'm doing L'Etape California the end of April - 75 miles with 11,000 feet of climbing. The final climb is 4.7 miles with an average gradient of 8.6%, and I'll probably be wishing I had a 36T in the rear. But anyway, the "Fred" gearing is kind of popular around these parts.
Sure for other parts, but I'm yet to find a hill around Vegas that warrants it to be honest. I assume this is simply the gearing the bikes come with vs what they've specifically chosen for the area. The 50/11 was way too small coming back in from Red Rock today with a tail wind.
Yeah, the problem is if they can't swap out the cassette and crank for a particular rider for some reason (which would make sense to do), they would have to go with the average. I haven't ridden in the Vegas area - only driven through there a few times - but I'm surprised that more roads don't go up into the mountains around there? If you could drive 4 1/2 hours west, there are plenty of routes around here that'll more than warrant that gearing :).
Hilarious ... laughing at oblivious yank blundering into the background of your shoot ...
2:09 Front brake + front shifter together and rear brake +rear shifter together. Not sure if that is the design but that's my thought on it...
Merika"
Great soft ending.
rented a giant TCR with 105 throughout but the same brake calipers as the Scott. idk if it's the 105 lever or the caliper but brake feel was absolutely crap. I think I locked the rear riding to the hotel from the shop atleast 3 times coming to lights just cuz I had no idea where I was in terms of braking force. tcr was great in a medium and I usually ride a 54 anyway. how tall are you Shane? I thought you'd be on a 56 atleast. think mine was 75 a day for two days which wasn't to bad given I was in la. that was without a bag or anything as I also bring my own filled with crap! funny enough that you mentioned customers over tightening. when they removed the post to regrease it before adjustment the found it had been cracked! clearly some bloke decided to adjust it and over tightened the clamp! perks of being a mechanic is eventually your arm becomes a pseudo torque wrench and you learn what's good and when to stop tightening.
Shano whats your opinion on the ultegra you have? looking to get the grouppo
Ultegra is fine. Raced with it for years. Reliable, cheap, does the job.
I watch your vids a lot, nice jobs. I like your bib & top very cool. Let me know when your going to post a small set to South Africa, you never know when you want to come visit South Africa and will need some free acommodation and a proper cycling buddy :-)
The silly phone syncing bug with Garmin Connect is a pain in the ass, and they haven't been able to fix that bug in years now apparently. Are the Wahoo devices literally as good across the board as the Garmin devices in your opinion?
My Garmin Connect has been pretty solid.... opening the Garmin app and doing a manual sync force has always solved any missing ride sync for me. Wahoo syncing has always worked for me although I haven't used it as much as any Garmin sync.
My 520 routinely fails to sync, and sometimes it will resolve itself if I disable bluetooth and restart both devices (or some other combination of that and some woo woo), but other times it just fails to sync until the next ride.
how tall are you?
About these tires. Can I use 28s tires in this model?
Not sure sorry. Hopefully someone else can chime in on this one.
Shane, I've recently subscribed and really enjoy your simple, honest style. One question, what is the camera you used for this post? Thx, Darren.
Thanks Darren. This was on a GoPro Hero5 Session. I took it in the back pocket to capture the ride out there and we decided to do this video with that epic backdrop.
Shane Miller - Thanks Shane. I'm on the fence with a H5 Session, or H5 Black..... Cheers, Darren.
Lol @ the women in the background 0:23
Check the landscape. That was Road Runner in disguise. Meep Meep!
Wild landwhale in its natural habitat. Just calmly rolling around the country...
Rein She was pacing Lama earlier, just stretching legs for a min
Right?! I enjoyed the juxtaposition of this really fit, athletic cyclist in the foreground, contrasted by the utmost in unhealthiness and gluttony in the background...
She never saw such a lean man!
can you do a video on how to put open street maps on your garmin? thanks shane
multitool taken at the airport? why , I always check mine with a Swiss army knife. No issues traveling in Europe and Asia. Your airport security is going crazy !
has rhyno got a channel?
Polar bike computers know where you are anywhere in the world and are half the price of the others. They work bloody well too.
Broken Ribs don't they only support BT and not ant+?
you're going to miss Paris Roubaix!
Finish is around 8:30am our time. We'll catch the end early tomorrow morning.
how long are you in vegas???
+Jordan Overland Flying out Tuesday morning.
Shane Miller, how did the 2017 CR1 ride, compared to your old, I think, 2008 CR1?
+Cj 2017 for sure. Although it was a 54 vs my 56
While watching this vid, I thought 54 was perhaps a bit small for you. You just look a bit taller than a 54!
Yeah, the 2017 is radically different from pre 2010 CR1. Mine is a 2011 and it didn't look too much different from that '17, but I imagine it has moved on a quite a bit. I'm stepping up the training this year, so I wear the CR1 a bit more and justify a more modern machine in the nx couple of years. These bike manufactures are buggers pushing it forward - $$$$$$$
price ?
Shane, you use 36cm bars? that sounds suuuuupppoerrr narrow
+Mordy B My TT bars are 10cm apart.
i thought u mentioned your road handlebars at home are 36cm.
36cm cc road bars yes. 38 on the Giant. My Time Trial bike bars (extensions) are 10cm apart, maybe closer. We're riding bikes, needing to go fast. 40cm+ is like driving a bus for me.
Welcome to America, land of hamburgers and hotdogs. Reason # 1 why the gearing is setup like that.
What size of bike do you use? did I hear you say 54?
Yes, he did near the end of the video.
Ok he looks quite a tall person but I guess he isn't
181cm... I like the handling of a 54cm with a 120mm stem over a 56 with a 100/110. All depends on the bike brand/geometry too.
ok, that's quite interesting does that not put your weight balance more to the front?.....not a problem having to brake suddenly? seat tube length ok?
What bike brand do you prefer to use?
Thought you would have taken the PowerTap P1's??
Yeah, I should have. Couldn't use them for the Vegas race (used Kickrs) so it wasn't a biggy.
I'm riding a 8x3 geared bike :(
It is my first road bike after years of not riding
ive had those tyres, lasted 3 months. Too many punctures :)
That compact at the front is not 105. Its RS500. A cheapie.
+experiment54 Arh good pickup! That's nowhere near Ultegra then. I forgot 105 has logos on it...
Its cause it came on my bike mate. I didn't worry too much because I knew I would eventually change it. Its 500g heavier than 105 I think but easier to clean the back.
It's not 500g heavier. Some weights on my scales...
Shimano Ultegra 50/34, 165mm (CL), 11sp 665g
Shimano RS500 50/34, 170mm (CL), 11sp 790g
I did say I think. I was going off memory as couldn't be bothered to check.
Ha ha!! I know what you mean. It's just that 500g is 2 thirds of the weight of a crank, which is a lot, and just mentioning it so nobody thinks the RS500 crank weighs over 1kg. It would boost 105 sales if they WERE that much lighter ;-)
They make 7 speed and 8 speed still.
Scott comp 2011 the best
1... I guess
Reversed brakes, that's a good one. You mean the proper way ;)