Hello Ian I am originally from Pavia and met Ing. Ghisoni at his workshop. My friend Silvio knew him very well because his mother translated commercial corrispondence in German for Mateba He was a very nice person and moved mostly by curiosity and interest in finding new technical solutions.
It’s like if a standard old Italian pistol and a .38 special got into a teleported accident. Mateba guns are just so strange and beautiful at the same time.
You can always recognize an Italian gun by the dozen or so proof marks on it. When I was in high school I got into clays and bought an Italian made Beretta 682 Gold. Didn't help that I lived in the UK at the time. Never seen so many proof marks on one gun, lol. Also, WTF is the point of having a magnum proof on a gun with a 2 3/4" chamber?!? Also, change '.38 Special' in your statement to ".380 British' and you've got it in one. No way this was the product of a teleporter accident with an American revolver.
FYI any time you see "CH" being used in an Italian word, it's pronounced "K". We don't have the "K" in the Italian alphabet, so that's how we write the hard "c", by adding "h" immediately after. So, for example, in this case it's pronounced: "Makkine Termo Balistike" (thermo-ballistic machines)
"Well Cleetus... This is what happens when a young and confused Colt Revolver eyes a nice and sexy Colt 1911, and begin a wonderful and extended incestuous relationship that noboy figures out until the incest baby is born and everyone tries to figger out how to hide it..."
I first learned about this cool Italian revolver from the Fallout London mod. It’s featured in the game called The Ferryman’s Friend and it uses .32 S & W making it the MTR-12 model. It’s pretty cool that they featured a historically accurate gun in a fan project.
KWALITY engineering, as a mechanical engineer this is what I find so interesting about guns. As a high quality hand-held mechanism that has undergone years of R&D, multiple revisions and consideration by some truly talented mechanical engineers, pistols fascinate me.
If I'm not mistaken, this is the same background than for the bergmann pistols videos. If this is indeed from the same collection, mad respect to their owner for having both good tastes and such interesting pieces.
There's a video "Interview: Bill Chase on Restoring Collectible Firearms" with the same fireplace in the background, so one could conclude that Mr. Chase is the owner of that really impressive collection.
Thank you Ian for sharing this with us.The speed loader was a cool idea. Its like a combo fullmoon clip/speedloader. Best of both worlds. Keeps the rounds firmly in place with little noise like the clips but you can refill it without needing a tool like a speed loader. Ingenious design.
This would be a really cool Star Wars blaster, like some kind of heavy Mandalorian pistol that takes 8 fuel cells but each shot will blow a Wookie in half.
Likely a similar principle for most franchises if it was dressed up fancy as a prop. It's the only reason you should bother with things like revolvers in settings where normal blasters have a 100 standard shot endurance. But being able to blow an armored Wookie to bits with a center of mass shot is cool.
I was thinking the same thing. Take out the cylinder and replace it like a block with a light on it, add too much scope to the top and that guns ready to be quick drawn by a bounty hunter.
@@assaultspoon4925 I've got a Rossi Circuit Judge in .45 Colt/.410 Shotshell, it has little metal wings on both sides of the cylinder to protect you from escaping cylinder gas, however if you hold it a certain way you can still get some gas hitting you, it stings a bit, but wearing long sleeves would solve any potential issue there. However, magnum rounds out of a .357 could do a bit more, all the same... same concept, use something to protect from the gasses like the wings and it wouldnt be so bad.
@@assaultspoon4925 Again, I own a Rossi Circuit Judge .45 Colt/.410 shotgun/carbine. It does not blast it into your hands, they sit beside the cylinder, which simply just blocks the gas from going straight to your arm. They arent curved or angled where it redirects where the blast goes in general. This isnt a new concept either, the Russians did this a long time ago with the MTS-255 revolving shotgun and it works quite well. So no, you dont have to have two hands behind the cylinder. Another option would be to make it a full gas seal like the old Belgian Pieper revolving carbines. Both methods solve the problem. So again, as an owner of a revolving carbine/shotgun with little metal wings near the cylinder to protect you from escaping gas... it would work just fine.
i bought an antique shotgun at a flea market in paris, shipped it back to scotland, got it cleaned up, and checked out, turns out its an antique beretta shotgun worth a few thousand, i paid 40 pounds for it
Mateba also produced the 2006m revolver with a similar 6 o'clock firing pattern to the chiappa rhino, for much the same reasons. It's basically a utica-6 minus the auto revolver slide. Another really cool revolver that I want to get my hands on.
Houseckat I’ve been after this one for over two decades. Every time I’ve found one, though (have gone years between findings), the asking price is outrageous. I’m prepared to pay 3K for it since it’s very much a collector’s gun at this point, but 5K+ is a super high-end AR like LWRC with a top notch holographic or scope...the search continues.
This video popped up while I was watching a cyberpunk update review. rare in America? Hell, every to bit gang banger in Night City has one. The 2nd is not only for the rich!
What a gorgeous piece, Ian. Congrats on 1 million. I've been with you at least 4 years. Thank you for keeping things non-political and strictly historical. You're a great persona and I reckon a great guy. Keep it upm
This was specifically for Rapid Fire competition. As an ex Bullseye competitor, I can definitely see why you might be interested, but there you have to straight arm it, 1 handed. So, the muzzle heavy balance might outweigh (If you'll pardon the pun) the recoil control. It's really important what Kind of target shooting competition it's designed for. You wouldn't want to use this for Sillhoette any more than you would a Sillhoette gun for Rapid Fire.
I think he said this was made in the 70's. Maybe there was a unique competition going on then that made this viable, or this was a case of "being the first."
@@harleymitchelly5542 No, for one thing it was developed in 1980, and for another, ISSF Rapid Fire Pistol competition is the basis for modern Practical Shooting, (Only in 9mm instead of .22) and started in 1896, as an Olympic program. So, not a case of "Being the first," either. That would be wrong, on all your assumptions, and finally, Google is right there. It didn't take me a minute to look all that up.
@Cameron Kaiser-Meurling The way I see it is that Potato was an enthusiast who knew the history of his guns and Ian is more of a historian who's really enthusiastic about guns (especially their mechanical inner workings). In the end they get to about the same place on individual firearms.
Yeah, i miss LSP, i think Ian and he could make a great collaboration, and i'm sure Ian would love to see some of his firearms, i mean, some were quite rare and obscure.
What a bizarre piece! It looks like something drawn by a non-gun person who'd seem both revolvers and semi-autos at a distance, but had no idea of the mechanisms or design criteria involved.
I got my interest in unusual firearms from trying to find out what the hell a Matever was. It took a lot of digging around Ghost in the Shell webrings. (yeah... remember webrings? I hope you don't.) Buried in some obscure GITS fan site someone had the scoop. Togusa's gun in Ghost in the Shell was a fictional Mateba M2007 (nearly identical to the very real 2006M). An overeager translator had converted a Japanese "ba" he didn't recognise to "ver" in both the English dub and in the subtitles. It was a heck of a search but along the way I found out there was a lot more out there than Uzi's, Glocks and Colt 1911s.
Life Size Potato has videos on a lot of Emilio Ghisoni's guns, including this one if you're curious to see more. His collection is like 95% of the Matebas in the US
Since watching Ghost in the Shell many moons ago Mateba revolvers have always been on my radar, this is quite different though. Nice video. Any chance of you looking at the Chiappa Rhino?
I've always wanted to see this concept returned to and combined with firing from the bottom cylinder. That would be the lowest bore axis of any handgun by a considerable amount. It would recoil between the index and middle finger, lower than is possible with a conventional layout. If I think about where the recoil force would ideally be, it would be in the middle of the hand, down the middle of the wrist into the middle of the arm. Then the recoil force would only be pushing back, it would not be pushing the wrist up or down. So if this shot from the bottom of the cylinder, the force of recoil would push the wrist up less than any other handgun. I would have loved to see Ghisoni return to this layout and combine it with his later Mateba innovations for the ultimate low bore axis competition revolver. I wonder how it would shoot. It would be very controllable and could be shot rapidly. It would probably be very comfortable with magnum rounds because it would be so easy on the wrist by causing less rotational force to resist with each shot. Recoil would feel very unusual and probably take some getting used to to master, but I think it would be a very ergonomic recoil force and enable some exceptionally rapid yet accurate shooting. Even more so in semi-auto, recocking itself to single action with each shot. It would require a lot less "manhandling" than any other handgun to control muzzle rise. It also would be an ideal shooter for those with limited hand strength who can't shoot with a death grip on their gun. All the weight being up front also helps reduce rise further. Maybe someday we'll see a revolver that combines all the Ghisoni features. That would be a treat. I'm just glad Chiappa is still in business and we can at least get the most important Mateba innovation. I wish Chiappa would expand the line. They planned to introduce a polymer-framed Rhino and ever showed a prototype at industry events but it has never been released. They should really enter the lightweight handgun market. It's a natural fit. The lightweight conventional revolvers like the S&W 340 PD have a lot of recoil, but people still pay a premium because they're the lightest full-power handguns. A Rhino of competitive weight could be much more pleasant to shoot than it's S&W or Ruger competitors. Unfortunately I don't see Chiappa introducing more than different barrel lengths and finishes. I hope someday they introduce different materials and mechanisms to continue the Ghisoni legacy of innovation, outstanding performance, and excellence.
@@KingHalbatorix Also.. I think the only way to make that a bullpup design and not lose the benefits of the low bore axis would be to have the barrels, two cylinders mounted back and on either side of your forearm with a grip/sights in the center! Heavier yes, but now with double capacity!!! If only....
Not sure if I ever said this Ian but thanks a lot. I am really interested in these sort of obscure firearms and the history of firearms in general and you are one of my favorite sources for information. You present it very well.
What an interesting piece! Thank you very much for doing a video on it. I love the loading mechanism. One can keep several on hand and have nonstop fun at a range.
I was thinking the whole time this looked like an early version or inspiration to the chiappa rhino! too cool to find out at the end they had the same designer. Thanks for sharing this one.
VERY NICE TO SEE THIS VIDEO - GOOD WORK !! Back in the eighties, I wrote an article for a (Dutch) gun magazine on this gun. It never caught on much, but I do remember it to be a very front heavy gun but which did very well in the target-type shooting at 25 meters. The sights were not the best, but the recoil was very soft (.38 Special only) and the trigger very crisp. A bit like a bit-bore Walther GSP which was a very popular target gun at that time.
The pronunciation is as follows Macchine: MA as the MA in MATEBA - CCHI as the KI in kinetic, only with a long "k" - NE as the NE in negative - the accent is on the "a" Termo: good to go, you got it right Balistiche: good to go up to CHE, you have to say it as the KE in kennel Interesting video, love your content!
@@mopar_dude9227 yeah that didn't came out good, did it? What I mean is that the -cchi has to be pronouced as a ki, but since you have two "c" you have to... keep it longer. I can't find something similar in English, tbh, as it's not my native language ^^' Is there any english word with a double "k" around? The best I can think of is the japanese "korokke", that stands for croquette. The -kke is similar to the italian "cch". Hope it may be helpful ^^'
Mateba's a fun shooter, very little kick up. It does recoil back into the hand quite forcefully, but it's a real joy to squeeze off like a crazy person. The Rhino is also nice, but far more jolting to me when I had a chance to fire one.
You sure do find some funky looking firearms. Sometimes you get so accustomed to standard looking guns, you forget that there are sone real picassos out there. Good vid man.
I'm a very casual gun enthusiast (I barely know anything they just look cool), and this gun looks alot like the DR-5 Nova revolver from Cyberpunk 2077.
Ian the rhino is worth the money imo. A buddy of mine has one and now I'm getting one. It does help a lot with recoil. My wife who normally can't shoot 357 mag. Now has almost no problem at all useing his.
@@jasondoe2596 I messaged him about it a while ago when the topic of Matebas came up in a video. Basically he said he's so busy traveling to various gun collections all around the world that he doesn't have time to go to a location just for a single gun, Which I totally understand.
Mail it to him??? We all could pay for the shipping insurance with the patreon?? Maybe several people do it with different guns and when he is home he could do a video on All guns that were sent????!!! A mini series of shooting?????!! That would be Awesome!!!!!??? Everyone who has something contact Ian and you guys make it happen?????!!!!! You know we would all be Great full and enjoy it!!!! It's a win win for everyone!!
6:34 What makes a Magazine a Magazine? Does it have to be closed on 5 sides? Because to me, that looks much more like a Magazine than it looks like a Speedloader. Edit: you even said "Clip" a little later. That sounds even more right.
Revolvers are weird as they are both the magazine, holding rounds in the gun to be shot next, and also the actual firing chambers. I would say cylinders would qualify as a magazine of chambers.
Long time watcher / first time commenter.... why does this pistol make me think about retiring my .44 superblackhawk? 🤣😂🤣 SUCH beautiful Italian lines...i love it Such
It is nuts to think that there is a "rare" gun compared to the rest of Mateba's catalogue.
It's the foil rare card in the collectible pack :)
In the US, the rarest Mateba is the 2006M
You're forgetting the unica in 44.
It's rare because of its limited specialism, low numbers rare not necessarily sought after rare.
Just when you think youve seen it all you see a bullpup revolver
I love every time Ian remarks on iron sights. He always seems unimpressed but trying not to hurt the gun's feelings.
Macchine termo balistiche, which means “thermoballistic machines”, a really fancy name for “guns”.
Best company name ever.
Here at Thermoballistic Machines, we utilize Newtons third law to expedite metal-matrix composites unto an aspirational target.
@@gwivongalois6169 LMAO
A noi italiani piace avere classe (we italians love have class)
plebs: 'it's a gun'
me, an intellectual: "thermoballistic machine"
A revolver with a forward cylinder and a built-in speed loader? Now that's design inspiration, right there.
It's not a speed loader, it's a magazine lol
@@ktp01 The cylinder IS the magazine
“So it’s got like a ten inch sight radius, despite having a three inch barrel”
I know some guys like that
I do
I don't understand, please explain?
Death They have small penises but like to act like they’re larger.
Me too. Oh wait
But as the old adage goes “ It’s not how big it is it’s what you do with it that counts “ 😎
Hello Ian I am originally from Pavia and met Ing. Ghisoni at his workshop. My friend Silvio knew him very well because his mother translated commercial corrispondence in German for Mateba He was a very nice person and moved mostly by curiosity and interest in finding new technical solutions.
Thats incredible. I have a Mateba Grifone and it truly is a marvel. Clever engineering indeed
You take it easy
Lucky Bugger
There's definitely an... optimistic number of digits in that serial number.
"and this is why the italian army should adopt my pistol"
@NPC 48732 still on Internet, last time he upload a photo in flickr
@NPC 48732 he did some soul-searching and fell in...
I didn't get the joke man..i feel so dumb 🙂
Am I the only one that thinks it looks absolutely beautiful? Such a peice of art IMO.
Alita nah
I agree, it's gorgeous.
It looks very ugly
I'd like to own one, but I'm not sure I'd like to be seen with it.
It's a Maverick from nerf
There's just something about Mateba revolvers that really pickles my onion thanks Togusa :)
Hopefully he's getting his hands on a Model 6 Unica at some point. Or any other model really, they're all interesting.
Oh no it’s the Laughing Man!
@@Sun-Tzu- It's from Ghost In The Shell
@@Sun-Tzu-
Watch Season 1 of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.
I wonder how many people there are who think that Mateba is fictional Japanese brand.
For an unconventional gun this one is actually really cool, and it doesn't look too impractical. The clip/speedloader is such a great design.
It’s like if a standard old Italian pistol and a .38 special got into a teleported accident. Mateba guns are just so strange and beautiful at the same time.
You can always recognize an Italian gun by the dozen or so proof marks on it. When I was in high school I got into clays and bought an Italian made Beretta 682 Gold. Didn't help that I lived in the UK at the time. Never seen so many proof marks on one gun, lol. Also, WTF is the point of having a magnum proof on a gun with a 2 3/4" chamber?!?
Also, change '.38 Special' in your statement to ".380 British' and you've got it in one. No way this was the product of a teleporter accident with an American revolver.
“How long do you want the barrel?”
“No.”
It reminds me of the vector a little bit because of where magazine/cylinder goes
@@natethenotsogreat8349 and just how much weight there is
@@TheFirstCurse1 :(
You can't really make the barrel much longer otherwise it just looks like a revolver that's mutated and disfigured.
@@LethalByChoice im sure they were primarily concerned with the look in the design 😂😂😂
I love how optimistic the serial number is. 000084. Gotta have enough room to make a million of the things.
FYI any time you see "CH" being used in an Italian word, it's pronounced "K". We don't have the "K" in the Italian alphabet, so that's how we write the hard "c", by adding "h" immediately after. So, for example, in this case it's pronounced: "Makkine Termo Balistike" (thermo-ballistic machines)
So key-ah-pah, not Chee-ah-pah?
*sees thumbnail*
“What in the world...?”
My thoughts exactly.
"Oh sweet Forgotten Weapons uplo--okay *_what the hell is that?"_*
it's beautiful, isn't it?
Mateba is known for innovate and experiment. They just restarted the company. It is your occasion if you want a 6 unica
An underslung revolver on a pistol?
"Well Cleetus... This is what happens when a young and confused Colt Revolver eyes a nice and sexy Colt 1911, and begin a wonderful and extended incestuous relationship that noboy figures out until the incest baby is born and everyone tries to figger out how to hide it..."
I first learned about this cool Italian revolver from the Fallout London mod. It’s featured in the game called The Ferryman’s Friend and it uses .32 S & W making it the MTR-12 model. It’s pretty cool that they featured a historically accurate gun in a fan project.
I know what you're thinking punk.. Did I fire 20 shots or only 19. 😄
Hilarious.
Gees, you suck at aiming
But my mind is older
@@kailaine3974 Mobb deep?
@@partialbullet2215 maybe there were 20 enemies or 10 enemies he put one in the chest and one in the head
KWALITY engineering, as a mechanical engineer this is what I find so interesting about guns. As a high quality hand-held mechanism that has undergone years of R&D, multiple revisions and consideration by some truly talented mechanical engineers, pistols fascinate me.
If I'm not mistaken, this is the same background than for the bergmann pistols videos.
If this is indeed from the same collection, mad respect to their owner for having both good tastes and such interesting pieces.
Ian's collection maybe?
There's a video "Interview: Bill Chase on Restoring Collectible Firearms" with the same fireplace in the background, so one could conclude that Mr. Chase is the owner of that really impressive collection.
I'm going to go with my "80s drug lord's" collection theory...
nice pfp
Thank you Ian for sharing this with us.The speed loader was a cool idea. Its like a combo fullmoon clip/speedloader. Best of both worlds. Keeps the rounds firmly in place with little noise like the clips but you can refill it without needing a tool like a speed loader. Ingenious design.
A 20-round capacity revolver, for some pretty wild Russian Roulette
Haha, 1/20 sure beats 1/6
May the Odds be in the players favor.
I prefer to use a 500 mag for Russian roulette, if anyone is lined up with you it can be a two for one.
Deer Hunter style.
calypsis with 19 friends
This would be a really cool Star Wars blaster, like some kind of heavy Mandalorian pistol that takes 8 fuel cells but each shot will blow a Wookie in half.
looks pretty cyberpunk/desert fantasy to me
Likely a similar principle for most franchises if it was dressed up fancy as a prop. It's the only reason you should bother with things like revolvers in settings where normal blasters have a 100 standard shot endurance. But being able to blow an armored Wookie to bits with a center of mass shot is cool.
Or a fancier 40k hive gun ^^
I was thinking the same thing. Take out the cylinder and replace it like a block with a light on it, add too much scope to the top and that guns ready to be quick drawn by a bounty hunter.
Kalapoike Deviere if you see the new cyberpunk gameplay, you see them using this fun but in cyberpunk aesthetics
I'm hoping that Ian gets his hands on a Mateba 2006M, basically the forerunner to the Rhino.
And sorta famous for being in Ghost in the Shell.
I'm just imagining Ian cosplaying as Togusa and Karl as Batou and it's beautiful.
Gun smith: So do you want a pistol or revolver?
Mateba user: yes.
is there a difference?
Revolvers are pistols and have been referred to as pistols since the earliest colt models
Orologio da uomo
correction: Automatic or revolver
Well revolvers are pistols so...
I want one in carbine form, but pump action to cycle it.
I actually have one of these but the trigger is broken
@@assaultspoon4925 Just need a shield. Would probably be a wear item.
Lol a pump revolver.
@@assaultspoon4925 I've got a Rossi Circuit Judge in .45 Colt/.410 Shotshell, it has little metal wings on both sides of the cylinder to protect you from escaping cylinder gas, however if you hold it a certain way you can still get some gas hitting you, it stings a bit, but wearing long sleeves would solve any potential issue there. However, magnum rounds out of a .357 could do a bit more, all the same... same concept, use something to protect from the gasses like the wings and it wouldnt be so bad.
@@assaultspoon4925 Again, I own a Rossi Circuit Judge .45 Colt/.410 shotgun/carbine. It does not blast it into your hands, they sit beside the cylinder, which simply just blocks the gas from going straight to your arm. They arent curved or angled where it redirects where the blast goes in general.
This isnt a new concept either, the Russians did this a long time ago with the MTS-255 revolving shotgun and it works quite well. So no, you dont have to have two hands behind the cylinder. Another option would be to make it a full gas seal like the old Belgian Pieper revolving carbines. Both methods solve the problem.
So again, as an owner of a revolving carbine/shotgun with little metal wings near the cylinder to protect you from escaping gas... it would work just fine.
i bought an antique shotgun at a flea market in paris, shipped it back to scotland, got it cleaned up, and checked out, turns out its an antique beretta shotgun worth a few thousand, i paid 40 pounds for it
that’s a steal.
Mr&Mrs Morrice - Was it difficult to import it?
@@AtheistOrphan i have a shotgun permit, so not really, getting it cleaned up wasnt cheap though
I envy people who can buy/sell guns without having to wait several months for it.
How the hell can they sell guns at a flea market in Europe?
Mateba also produced the 2006m revolver with a similar 6 o'clock firing pattern to the chiappa rhino, for much the same reasons. It's basically a utica-6 minus the auto revolver slide. Another really cool revolver that I want to get my hands on.
Houseckat
I’ve been after this one for over two decades. Every time I’ve found one, though (have gone years between findings), the asking price is outrageous. I’m prepared to pay 3K for it since it’s very much a collector’s gun at this point, but 5K+ is a super high-end AR like LWRC with a top notch holographic or scope...the search continues.
@@chipsandcase-o5738 update us on the search, my friend
doesn't this gun's future cousin show up in Cyberpunk? :D
Literally why I clicked on the video! Damn them sexy nova’s! 😂👍🏻
DR5 Nova
Which is probably by way of a Mateba being Togusa's preferred sidearm in Ghost in the Shell.
@@tychothefriendlymonolith That's were I've heard this name before!
This video popped up while I was watching a cyberpunk update review.
rare in America? Hell, every to bit gang banger in Night City has one.
The 2nd is not only for the rich!
What a gorgeous piece, Ian. Congrats on 1 million. I've been with you at least 4 years. Thank you for keeping things non-political and strictly historical. You're a great persona and I reckon a great guy. Keep it upm
Wow looks like some Italian guy said “I wonder what a 1911 mixed with a revolver would look like”
Man, those italians not only make the coolest cars but also the make the coolest guns.
Grazie
Germany says hi.
Opinion
*americans
@@flipkiller8521 No it doesn't.
Is it bad that I always thought it was pronounced "MAH-teh-bah," and that it was a Japanese company/name? ._.
I blame Ghost in The Shell.
It is Mah-TEH-bah as it is pronounced in Italian.
Same. haha
Cant get the Togusa conversations out of my head.
"but I like my Mateba".
Guilty as charged. 😋
It would be one HELL of a interesting story regarding How he got That gun, in Japan of all places. They're supposedly pretty damn rare.
@@cnlbenmc Maybe his weird hobby is firearms collecting, like Batou with his exercise equipment and dog?
This was specifically for Rapid Fire competition. As an ex Bullseye competitor, I can definitely see why you might be interested, but there you have to straight arm it, 1 handed. So, the muzzle heavy balance might outweigh (If you'll pardon the pun) the recoil control. It's really important what Kind of target shooting competition it's designed for. You wouldn't want to use this for Sillhoette any more than you would a Sillhoette gun for Rapid Fire.
I think he said this was made in the 70's. Maybe there was a unique competition going on then that made this viable, or this was a case of "being the first."
@@harleymitchelly5542 No, for one thing it was developed in 1980, and for another, ISSF Rapid Fire Pistol competition is the basis for modern Practical Shooting, (Only in 9mm instead of .22) and started in 1896, as an Olympic program. So, not a case of "Being the first," either. That would be wrong, on all your assumptions, and finally, Google is right there. It didn't take me a minute to look all that up.
The correct pronunce is the first one and the meaning of the name is "thermo ballistic machines". Just a little info from an italian viewer
The more you know. Thank you for this info, friend
Where's LifeSizePotato when you need him
was thinking the exact same thing
Great minds think alike!
It makes me so sad, he dropped off the face of the TH-cam.
@@vladpiranha that was probably the minimal price of the guns he would look at lol
That's when you realize that we watch to many gun videos cause I was thinking the same thing
This gun is in fallout London as the "Ferrymans Friend"
Ah, the fireplace. Cozy and full of gun secrets. Tell me your gun secrets, cozy fireplace.
*fireplace crackles*
IT'S NERF OR NOTHIN
*NOTH OR NERFIN
Ian should review forgotten nerf guns
I think that's called devaluing the brand.
Ayyy somebody also had a good childhood!
Good, so I'm not the only one
Mateba makes me remember LIFESEIZEPOTATO. I miss him and his cool guns!
Yeah the guy has one of the nicest collection of handguns i've ever seen... maybe MrColt45ACP too
Yeah, Potato and Colt have some outstanding videos. Hopefully they'll make a few more some day.
@@kaylagray5834 Potato hasn't posted a video in over 2 years.
@Cameron Kaiser-Meurling The way I see it is that Potato was an enthusiast who knew the history of his guns and Ian is more of a historian who's really enthusiastic about guns (especially their mechanical inner workings). In the end they get to about the same place on individual firearms.
Yeah, i miss LSP, i think Ian and he could make a great collaboration, and i'm sure Ian would love to see some of his firearms, i mean, some were quite rare and obscure.
What a bizarre piece! It looks like something drawn by a non-gun person who'd seem both revolvers and semi-autos at a distance, but had no idea of the mechanisms or design criteria involved.
It also looks like someone with dyslexia described a bullpup backwards.
I got my interest in unusual firearms from trying to find out what the hell a Matever was. It took a lot of digging around Ghost in the Shell webrings. (yeah... remember webrings? I hope you don't.) Buried in some obscure GITS fan site someone had the scoop. Togusa's gun in Ghost in the Shell was a fictional Mateba M2007 (nearly identical to the very real 2006M). An overeager translator had converted a Japanese "ba" he didn't recognise to "ver" in both the English dub and in the subtitles. It was a heck of a search but along the way I found out there was a lot more out there than Uzi's, Glocks and Colt 1911s.
wait...
so someone is making Seburo somewhere out there!!?
I do love the look of the Mateba range of firearms, very unique.
Thank you , Ian .
Why are Mateba’s guns so damn beautiful
Americans: Revolvers
Germans: Pistols
Italians: *R e v o l v e r p i s t o l s*
Life Size Potato has videos on a lot of Emilio Ghisoni's guns, including this one if you're curious to see more. His collection is like 95% of the Matebas in the US
Yeah, he just kinda dropped
Everybody gangsta till that nerf gun everyone has for some reason becomes real
When I started this video I didn't expect this gun to become one of my new favorites.
Since watching Ghost in the Shell many moons ago Mateba revolvers have always been on my radar, this is quite different though. Nice video. Any chance of you looking at the Chiappa Rhino?
Great video Ian. Love to watch and learn the history of so many obscure an "Forgotten Weapons" Keep up the great work you're doing.
I've always wanted to see this concept returned to and combined with firing from the bottom cylinder. That would be the lowest bore axis of any handgun by a considerable amount. It would recoil between the index and middle finger, lower than is possible with a conventional layout. If I think about where the recoil force would ideally be, it would be in the middle of the hand, down the middle of the wrist into the middle of the arm. Then the recoil force would only be pushing back, it would not be pushing the wrist up or down. So if this shot from the bottom of the cylinder, the force of recoil would push the wrist up less than any other handgun. I would have loved to see Ghisoni return to this layout and combine it with his later Mateba innovations for the ultimate low bore axis competition revolver. I wonder how it would shoot. It would be very controllable and could be shot rapidly. It would probably be very comfortable with magnum rounds because it would be so easy on the wrist by causing less rotational force to resist with each shot. Recoil would feel very unusual and probably take some getting used to to master, but I think it would be a very ergonomic recoil force and enable some exceptionally rapid yet accurate shooting. Even more so in semi-auto, recocking itself to single action with each shot. It would require a lot less "manhandling" than any other handgun to control muzzle rise. It also would be an ideal shooter for those with limited hand strength who can't shoot with a death grip on their gun. All the weight being up front also helps reduce rise further. Maybe someday we'll see a revolver that combines all the Ghisoni features. That would be a treat. I'm just glad Chiappa is still in business and we can at least get the most important Mateba innovation. I wish Chiappa would expand the line. They planned to introduce a polymer-framed Rhino and ever showed a prototype at industry events but it has never been released. They should really enter the lightweight handgun market. It's a natural fit. The lightweight conventional revolvers like the S&W 340 PD have a lot of recoil, but people still pay a premium because they're the lightest full-power handguns. A Rhino of competitive weight could be much more pleasant to shoot than it's S&W or Ruger competitors. Unfortunately I don't see Chiappa introducing more than different barrel lengths and finishes. I hope someday they introduce different materials and mechanisms to continue the Ghisoni legacy of innovation, outstanding performance, and excellence.
This, but make it a bullpup
@@KingHalbatorix
My exact thought before I looked at your reply!!! Awesome.
@@KingHalbatorix Also..
I think the only way to make that a bullpup design and not lose the benefits of the low bore axis would be to have the barrels, two cylinders mounted back and on either side of your forearm with a grip/sights in the center! Heavier yes, but now with double capacity!!! If only....
Some of the stuff you get your hands on to show us are pretty incredible . Thanks!
Find you a man who looks at you the way Ian looks at gun markings.
probably my dream handgun, i'd love to own a collection of meteba's and chiappa's. such cool revolvers!
Have a good Monday my fellow Forgotten Weapons fans!
Not sure if I ever said this Ian but thanks a lot. I am really interested in these sort of obscure firearms and the history of firearms in general and you are one of my favorite sources for information. You present it very well.
Mateba makes me remember Bladerunner gun. The first film one.
This is a truly unique revolver. Great video Ian.
I can't hear Mateba without thinking of Tagusa in Ghost in the Shells revolver.
He's the only dude I know in popular media who uses the thing
@@lawindacera7219 Pretty sure the Tornado 6 in MGSV is based off a version of this
Didn't the guy in cowboy bebop have a mateba as well?
Cyberpunks dr5 nova, hell even bladerunner had a gun inspired by this
What an interesting piece! Thank you very much for doing a video on it. I love the loading mechanism. One can keep several on hand and have nonstop fun at a range.
I used to draw revolvers like this in my childhood
I love how it looks.
That speed loader is slick.
“You thought it was just a joke boy”
downer ending there, ian.
"dude's dead. no more neat revolvers. thanks for watching this video. bye."
People die. Get over it.
I bet that shoots like a dream. With the high grip and the low and forward weight of the cylinder.
The cylinder release reminds me of the one on my Dan Wesson
That's a rather subtle and polite way to ask someone if you can shoot their rare firearms. Well played sir. Well played. I mean that honestly though.
Mateba: Do you need a revolver or a pistol?
Me: *Yes*
This feels like a gun a character in a metal gear game would have and you could find a tape of snake remarking how unique and special it is
“I call forth, Emperor!”
I was thinking the whole time this looked like an early version or inspiration to the chiappa rhino! too cool to find out at the end they had the same designer. Thanks for sharing this one.
This is weird and cool enough for me to be an idiot and use it as my everyday carry just because it's wild.
Me to man,it's like an auto loader and a revolver had a baby.
Superunknown, more like, _Ghost in the Shell_ fantasy ;)
(although that features a different Mateba model)
I would be too worried about the cops taking it if I ever needed to use it.
Think of the holster!!!
Yeah, I'm starting to think you shouldn't be let anywhere around guns in case you injure yourself. 🤣
VERY NICE TO SEE THIS VIDEO - GOOD WORK !!
Back in the eighties, I wrote an article for a (Dutch) gun magazine on this gun. It never caught on much, but I do remember it to be a very front heavy gun but which did very well in the target-type shooting at 25 meters. The sights were not the best, but the recoil was very soft (.38 Special only) and the trigger very crisp. A bit like a bit-bore Walther GSP which was a very popular target gun at that time.
Never clicked on something so fast
Me too, and you totally beat me.
Bonzi Buddy Tell me a joke
The one thing of note is this revolver has the most robust hand and cylinder lock up sounds official. I like it.
The pronunciation is as follows
Macchine: MA as the MA in MATEBA - CCHI as the KI in kinetic, only with a long "k" - NE as the NE in negative - the accent is on the "a"
Termo: good to go, you got it right
Balistiche: good to go up to CHE, you have to say it as the KE in kennel
Interesting video, love your content!
Eri76 what is a “long” k? Only vowels have long and short sounds.
@@mopar_dude9227 yeah that didn't came out good, did it? What I mean is that the -cchi has to be pronouced as a ki, but since you have two "c" you have to... keep it longer. I can't find something similar in English, tbh, as it's not my native language ^^'
Is there any english word with a double "k" around?
The best I can think of is the japanese "korokke", that stands for croquette. The -kke is similar to the italian "cch".
Hope it may be helpful ^^'
@@mopar_dude9227 no. In Italian consonants have long sounds too.
Mateba's a fun shooter, very little kick up. It does recoil back into the hand quite forcefully, but it's a real joy to squeeze off like a crazy person. The Rhino is also nice, but far more jolting to me when I had a chance to fire one.
If you could shoot Lifesizepotato’s guns that would be an amazing collaboration.
It looks like a cool sci-fi noir look to it, as if it is from a futuristic crime film. Absolutely awesome looking.
@Herbert Norkus Seriously. If anything it would just have that plate on multiple cylinders and reload it like a regular speed loaded revolver.
Sorta reminds me of the Majestic from Crysis 2 and 3.
exactly what i thought of
yeah, the majestic is obviously inspired by it
You sure do find some funky looking firearms. Sometimes you get so accustomed to standard looking guns, you forget that there are sone real picassos out there. Good vid man.
I'm a very casual gun enthusiast (I barely know anything they just look cool), and this gun looks alot like the DR-5 Nova revolver from Cyberpunk 2077.
This revolver is so unique! I love it
This looks like the DR-5 Nova from Cyberpunk 2077. Or, more accurately, the DR-5 looks like this
RIP Emilio Ghisoni, you crazy genius.
Me: sees where the revolving doodad is located
Me: C L I C K
Ian the rhino is worth the money imo. A buddy of mine has one and now I'm getting one. It does help a lot with recoil. My wife who normally can't shoot 357 mag. Now has almost no problem at all useing his.
It's a shame Ian can't fire that one. If he's in South East Michigan I'll let him fire my 44 Magnum Unica
That would be awesome - I hope he'll see your message :D
@@jasondoe2596 I messaged him about it a while ago when the topic of Matebas came up in a video. Basically he said he's so busy traveling to various gun collections all around the world that he doesn't have time to go to a location just for a single gun, Which I totally understand.
ZeroSuitSamo, that's very kind of you. And yes, it's understandable.
Mail it to him???
We all could pay for the shipping insurance with the patreon?? Maybe several people do it with different guns and when he is home he could do a video on All guns that were sent????!!! A mini series of shooting?????!! That would be Awesome!!!!!???
Everyone who has something contact Ian and you guys make it happen?????!!!!!
You know we would all be Great full and enjoy it!!!! It's a win win for everyone!!
I'd toss a few buck to send him.to Michigan, bet many other would to.
'I may only have a 3 inch barrel but I've got a 10 inch sight radius!' I'll use that next time.
Italian gun-makers are always so determined to be different. I really love the look of this gun; one of my all-time favorites.
mateba 6, absolutely gorgeous gun, the semi auto mechanism is brilliant!
The 357 mateba I almost purchased was the
After one
Usually I want one of each of every gun on Ian's show. In this case, I'll just stand aside and let someone else have mine.
It is pretty in an ugly kind of way. Definitely unique and an acquired taste but definitely mechanically interesting.
That built in speed loader is quite a nice bit of simple engineering that just works very well
"-Emilio Ghisoni. He was an Italian-"
REALLY?! I wouldve never realized!
I heard of this gun online, and instantly hoped Ian had a video on it. And here we are.
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What makes a Magazine a Magazine? Does it have to be closed on 5 sides? Because to me, that looks much more like a Magazine than it looks like a Speedloader.
Edit: you even said "Clip" a little later. That sounds even more right.
Its basically a full moon clip.
Clips feed magazines. Magazines feed guns.
Well according to that convention the cylinder would be a magazine and the bit in question would be a clip. A flat circular clip.
Revolvers are weird as they are both the magazine, holding rounds in the gun to be shot next, and also the actual firing chambers. I would say cylinders would qualify as a magazine of chambers.
I always love seeing unusual looking stuff that's well engineered - very neat thinking manifest in this one.
Ghost in a shell fans will know this brand!! nothing like a trusty mateba.
Long time watcher / first time commenter....
why does this pistol make me think about retiring my .44 superblackhawk?
🤣😂🤣
SUCH beautiful Italian lines...i love it
Such