Josh McDowell: Tolerating the Intolerable [Talbot Chapel]
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- International speaker, apologist, and writer at Josh McDowell Ministry, Josh McDowell, speaks at Talbot Chapel at Biola University on January 21, 2020.
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So true...In most christian youth groups its all about what it means to you personally shifting the focus from what Jesus meant
Thanks Josh. Great & truthful advice
Thank you for this! You are helping me so much understand God.
Wow...i have never seen it that way..great piece
praise the lord!
Truth is onto-relational
This is fantastic!
Give me an example
@@LindeeLove an example of what?
@@SheepAmongWolves Of something that he said that was fantastic.
@@LindeeLove why should he give you such an example ? Can't you find it??
I find the the discussion a good one...
The point he makes are good..
@@subhrodiprakshit8923 I wanted clarity on what HE thought was fantastic. Not what I would think is fantastic.
May the peace of Yausha the mashiach be with you all may Yauh of armies bless you in the name of Yausha mashiach.
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Epistemology is the study of how we " know ' things The study of knowing .
Dialectical truth....Ronald Regan was president from 1980-88 but he wasn't the same person the whole time ....he changed over time.
What does it mean to "know" in a biblical sense.?
Katie Touric?
Josh is sure pushing all of the buttons of the audience. He must really want to sell something.
Most adults have no clue ...self included.
God is not a personal creator God God is onto-relational Father Son and Holy Spirit. A relationship of persons.
You are saying the Bible is true because it's in a book. What's the difference? Serious question.
Adults?
Facts don’t care about your feelings ~ Ben Shapiro
🙏🙏🙏
The Nicene Creed says God is the Father Almighty Creator of Heaven and Earth.
Darwin said there is natural selection...among other things.
"When we say…Jesus Christ…was produced without sexual union, and was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended to heaven, ***we propound nothing new or different*** *from what you believe regarding those whom you call Sons of God. [In fact]…if anybody objects that [Jesus] was crucified, this is in* ***common*** *with the sons of Zeus (as you call them) who suffered, as previously listed [he listed Dionysus, Hercules, and Asclepius].* Since their fatal sufferings are all narrated as not similar but different, so his unique passion should not seem to be any worse."
*Note how Justin (Martyr) is less of a fool than modern Christian apologists. He admits that differences don’t matter.* Since each and every one of the suffering and dying gods are slain by different means, one cannot argue the mytheme requires exactly the same means of death. “But Osiris can’t have inspired the Jesus myth because Osiris wasn’t nailed to a cross” is a stupid argument. The mytheme is simply death. Being killed. Suffering and dying. The exact mode of death can vary freely. It makes no difference to the existence and influence of the mytheme. It’s simply the particular instantiation of a generic abstraction. *And Justin’s argument (that Satan invented these fake religions to confuse people) entails Justin agreed the mytheme existed: indeed, it was demonically promulgated, multiple times. Intentionally.*
*Likewise, Justin notices the mytheme is not virgin birth, but sexless conception. Of which many examples had already been popularized in pagan mythology (there just happens to also have been examples of actual virgin born gods as well). And by his argument (that the Devil was deliberately emulating the Jesus mytheme, in advance), Justin clearly accepted the same principle for “rising again” after death:* the particular exact metaphysics of the resurrection could, like the exact method of death or conception, vary freely. The mytheme consists solely of the abstraction: returning to life. Somehow. Some way. We will say bodily, at the very least. But what sort of body (the same one, a new one, a mortal one, an immortal one), didn’t matter. *If it had, Justin would have made the argument that “those gods” weren’t really resurrected. But that argument, never occurs to him. Nor did it to any other apologist of the first three centuries.*
*Ancient Christians well knew there was nothing new about their dying-and-rising god. Not in respect to the mytheme.* Their claims were solely that his particular instantiation of it was better, and the only one that actually happened. *They didn’t make up the stupid modern arguments that dying-and-rising god myths didn’t exist or weren’t part of a common mytheme everyone knew about. For example, in the same century, Tertullian, in Prescription against Heretics 40, makes exactly the same argument as Justin. Funny that. They had better access to the evidence than we do. They knew what was really and widely the case. We should listen to them.*
Google *"Dying-and-Rising Gods: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"*
Google *"Ehrman Errs: Yes, Bart, There Were Dying & Rising Gods - atheologica"*
Watch *"Dying & Rising Gods: A Response to William Lane Craig"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica.
Google *"Virgin Birth: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"*
Google *"5 Pagan Parallels to Jesus That Actually Aren’t Bullshit - Atheomedy"*
Google *"Christian Apologetics: The Art of Deceit - Atheomedy"*
Google *"Defending the Resurrection: It’s Easy if You Lie! - Atheomedy"*
Google *"Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"*
A good site written by an actual Biblical scholar.
Google *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"*
Google *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"*
Also:
Google *"How Did The Gospel Writers Know? - The Doston Jones Blog"*
Google *"Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 - The Doston Jones Blog"*
Google *"Gospels Not Written By Matthew, Mark, Luke or John - The Church Of Truth"*
Why? If i am dreaming that there is A God Almighty who offered me eternal life with Him in Him through Him, that is so beautiful and so magnificent and wonderful, why do you want to wake me up? Why not let me dream this dream? You want me miserable like most people who try to make sense of this life without God Almighty?
I was there, i know what i was like before I met Jesus Christ.
Thank God He opened my eyes to the truth. It changed EVERYTHING for me. I was and have been enabled to love the very unlovely.
He sounds terrified
Why?
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Gods Word Is True
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Josh...you seem like a nice guy but you make too many blanket statements....read TF Torrance. Your ideas about epistemology are simply mistaken. Read more widely.