You guys should rotate the camera around to closer shots (or use another party member's PoV in first-person) to demonstrate some battle effects. The constant, distant third-person camera view for this becomes stale, and makes it easier for people to criticize visuals. There's a brief closer side shot at 8:10, but otherwise it's largely the boring slightly inverted third-person view.
Yeah I'm confused on the insistence on third person. EQ was made with first person in mind and immersion. Feels like they aren't selling what this game is about very well or what truly brought me into EQ and it was extreme immersion.
Fantastic video! Where are the other classes? I wanted to see one on each of the tank classes so I could make a more informed decision on my future class!
is there going to be an ingame option to toggle off the combat texts and just see combat chat for that kinda stuff like classic everquest or even world of warcraft you can toggle them off.
Will there be an option to turn off the "a" and "an" on every enemy unit name? I think if I am calling out an emeny I will naturally use the proper indefinite article naturally.
Holy crap, this looks so much like EQOA, my favorite online game of all time. If the Monk class ends up looking good, I may end up playing quite a bit of this when it's out.
suggestion on this class instead having casting animations maybe the animations could be more aura based so limit that down time on a melee class. for when running harder content.
The Dire Lord is well built, but I feel like Vital Cage should restore Health and not Essence, or at least that's what it should change into at max mastery. I realize Lifetap and Blood Fiend already restore health, but I feel like Dual Wielding is going to make them more susceptible to white strikes, and in the end make them harder to keep alive. Also I'm glad Provoking Phantoms caps at 20 otherwise it would be broken.
If intellect increases the amount siphoned from debuffs, is there a cap? This seems like a hybrid with lots of options but players will be forced to build down a specific path this removing kits. Which is fine.
I was excitted to play a Dire Lord, hoping it was going to be an improved on version of the EQ Shadow Knight. But it looks from this that there has been little improvements and more of a cut and paste. Sad to see that the stat debuff/siphons play such a large role in the class. These were next to useless in EQ. Debuffing Str, dex, int, etc. is difficult to undestand how it impacts the fight. Additionally with mob scaling at level increases the amount the debuff removes becomes inconsiquential compare to the stats of higher level mobs. This should be a % debuff and just make it %damage remove, or %armor removal, %slow, etc. This will make it easier for the users to understand what they are doing and ensure it has at least some impact no matter the level.
Summoner and Ranger aren’t even playable yet. Dire Lord was one of the first classes and this is an update video. I am eagerly awaiting Ranger, but I’m not optimistic on it being soon. Watching the newsletter monthly for signs they have finished networking and started the pet systems.
I think that nothing will save this prototype besides an Alpha. The community has grown resistant to "milking" by now. Make EQ equivalent without additional systems, open it up for alpha players, and then people will likely open their pockets to some degree, so you could potentially complete the "vision". Otherwise people will think that you are just going to retire with their pledges.
Damn, so many things to worry about for my cannabis ridden 40 year old brain. I suppose when I get in in beta I will just pick whichever class does the least work and is easiest to remember. Or maybe I will just be a shitty player wandering around.
These classes always scale up in complexity over dozens of hours or gameplay. New skill every once in a while, so I think you will be able to manage even I'd you are baked out of you mind!
I had high hopes for this game, but lets be real. it's 9 years and all we see is 80% talk, 15% art concept and 5% work in progress that seems taken from a mmo of 15-20 years ago. and even if pantheon will be releasd in a distant future, it will never have a player based large enough to stay on the market. I wish the things were different, but that's what I see. the devs should show something much more solid, if they want a fan base larger than few thousand people worldwide. my 2 cents
I want to learn more about Ranger. What makes them unique? What abilities give them a unique advantage? How does their dps compare and compete with other dps classes like the rogue? What unique or otherwise utility do they offer for a group? What about abilities that interact with the environment like the rogue’s rope, the druid’s bridge, and the mage’s raft? Also, do we get to make people run fast? :)
Ranger information is still very sparse until the pet system is done. It has been suggested that they aren’t as druidy as EQ. A more unique class with their own abilities not just half a Druid.
False. 3-4 years of that was unpaid volunteer work to create a proof of concept for investor appeal. After network and engine infrastructure replacement, as well as getting off of Unity store asset dependence, they were finally able to pay their workers and start developing the game in earnest. You’d know that if you did a little of your own research. It’s opinions like yours that give their efforts a bad image, and it’s disingenuous.
@@Section.9 It is doesn't matter for end client - gamer's. 9 years it is 9 years. You can develop or not develop, slack on the beach, but the announcement was in 2014. And at current time I don't see more than EverQuest, which was created more faster.
@@dKenGuru If you’re really comparing development tools from the 90s to what it takes in 2023… I’ve got nothing else for you man. Also, everyone who has a stake in the game knows it hasn’t been 9 straight years of development of the same product on the same infrastructure.
I see the desperate people are still complaining about graphics and development time, lol. Wonder what the next pretty-faced disappointment they play will be, lol
@@anotheryoutubed You can't lose when you lean in neither direction, lol. I would like to see it released, as it would benefit me directly. If it doesn't I have all ready adjusted to not playing such games or expecting the moon and stars from them. The people criticizing the game don't want the game that I want, and would never play it even if it did come out. That is how I frame it. :)
@@anotheryoutubed It might not be but it will be closer to Everquest than just about any other modern game will be if it does happen to come out. Usually I say this: Consider the average dev team size for such a project. It's usually hundreds of people all working under a company either owned by a parent organization or a big corporation. Even then it can still easily take 5+ years with that many people and support. Visionary Realms has a team that is like fifteen times, maybe even twenty times smaller, trying to build the same type of massive game but with the kind of depth that a large team doesn't usually impliment. This development team is putting their lives and careers on the line with the potential for it to explode in their faces - either way, they have to try to do something because they can't just back out, now. I know people are skeptical but I do think the team is very much genuine. Given their predicament, and the circumstances, it's not surprising they are where they are if you really think about it. They're probably trying their best not to take corporate money, which would be a saving grace if things went horribly south. Given it's been ten years, I am surprised they've held out as long as they have.
@@anotheryoutubed That's mostly because the audience today are composed of people who are interested in more convenient but ultimately more shallow experiences. What is good for them isn't good for me, and that's why I don't look into any other games of this type, because they are simply not made for someone like me. There's a pattern now, and it's been like this for a decade, now - most people who pick up a new MMO usually quit them in several months or a short year, and I think it is because they're too simple. They're closer to single player games than they are online experiences. I think what you have is an audience of single player gamers wanting to take that experience online - where it doesn't necessarily belong. They're not nearly deep enough as a general experience to warrant someone to commit to. It's a cycle that repeats itself and even though people see it, they continue to participate in it. That's why you see these videos like "why are all mmo's dying?" Because they were made for people who will quit them.
Nice to see classes getting refined . Abilities fit class style .looking forward to seeing other classes as they refine. But need keep purpose of each class , meaning keep tank as main tank allowing dps to do dps and keep healers healing safely. A hybrid class should be able to manage without removing a actual tank. Agro is a must and avoidance and stout robust ac and energy return. And I hope the dotters agro increases each tick making dortin classes don't become dot wizards stacking 7 dots and sitting for mana. Class equality is paramount IMHO.
Classic WoW’s combat is also very very bad. As is LoTR Online, and OSRS/RS3. As are many other games. Not everyone wants action-based ADD-infused autist-fueled combat.
@@Section.9 lol this is so true, people complaining about this game are playing vanilla wow and private servers of really old games. just stop crying and wait for it to drop, then say if you like it or not
@@gnarlylocks7752 As a pre alpha tester, I can say that it’s shaping up to be on par with most games of this type. (Old and slow) Once they clean up animations and rig all the new models, I’m sure it’ll play just fine.
@@Section.9 I know I know.. I think EQ is one of the best mmos so I dont have to try this game to know its going to be good, but not for everyone just like EQ
@@Tyanu_Khah I honestly hope you are spot on with this. I invested into the project, I wouldn't want it too fail. Just from the outside looking in, does not look good.
dire lord is such a lackluster concept. dire lord is a confusing name, the animations look boring with no impact, all these initial abilities have so much detail and text to read, that most people wont read any of it. i hope future vids have less narration and just gameplay footage.
@@anotheryoutubed For someone who doesnt care about the game, you seem to spend a lot of time trashtalking in the comments. I wish i had that kid of free time. Also, yes i drank it, since i can play every month and see substantial progress each time. So now what ?
hope this isn't the final style for the DMG numbers, or that you guys allow some addons for dmg meters, dmg numbers etc. cuz those are really boring heh
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You guys should rotate the camera around to closer shots (or use another party member's PoV in first-person) to demonstrate some battle effects.
The constant, distant third-person camera view for this becomes stale, and makes it easier for people to criticize visuals.
There's a brief closer side shot at 8:10, but otherwise it's largely the boring slightly inverted third-person view.
Yeah I'm confused on the insistence on third person. EQ was made with first person in mind and immersion. Feels like they aren't selling what this game is about very well or what truly brought me into EQ and it was extreme immersion.
Any update on when alpha pledge's will get to try this?
Fantastic video! Where are the other classes? I wanted to see one on each of the tank classes so I could make a more informed decision on my future class!
is there going to be an ingame option to toggle off the combat texts and just see combat chat for that kinda stuff like classic everquest or even world of warcraft you can toggle them off.
Will there be an option to turn off the "a" and "an" on every enemy unit name? I think if I am calling out an emeny I will naturally use the proper indefinite article naturally.
Holy crap, this looks so much like EQOA, my favorite online game of all time. If the Monk class ends up looking good, I may end up playing quite a bit of this when it's out.
It will never come out and when it does it will die
@jmoney3775 lmao whoaa bro why are you in your feelings
suggestion on this class instead having casting animations maybe the animations could be more aura based so limit that down time on a melee class. for when running harder content.
The Dire Lord is well built, but I feel like Vital Cage should restore Health and not Essence, or at least that's what it should change into at max mastery. I realize Lifetap and Blood Fiend already restore health, but I feel like Dual Wielding is going to make them more susceptible to white strikes, and in the end make them harder to keep alive. Also I'm glad Provoking Phantoms caps at 20 otherwise it would be broken.
If intellect increases the amount siphoned from debuffs, is there a cap? This seems like a hybrid with lots of options but players will be forced to build down a specific path this removing kits. Which is fine.
I was excitted to play a Dire Lord, hoping it was going to be an improved on version of the EQ Shadow Knight. But it looks from this that there has been little improvements and more of a cut and paste. Sad to see that the stat debuff/siphons play such a large role in the class. These were next to useless in EQ. Debuffing Str, dex, int, etc. is difficult to undestand how it impacts the fight. Additionally with mob scaling at level increases the amount the debuff removes becomes inconsiquential compare to the stats of higher level mobs. This should be a % debuff and just make it %damage remove, or %armor removal, %slow, etc. This will make it easier for the users to understand what they are doing and ensure it has at least some impact no matter the level.
Summoners next! Love the class details vids. Keep em coming.
Summoner and Ranger aren’t even playable yet. Dire Lord was one of the first classes and this is an update video. I am eagerly awaiting Ranger, but I’m not optimistic on it being soon. Watching the newsletter monthly for signs they have finished networking and started the pet systems.
@@charlesminckler2978 Ranger falls in the same bag as Summoner and necro : they are on the waiting list until the PET system is complete and working.
😁💪👍 Do debuffs like devour dex break enchanters mez?
I think that nothing will save this prototype besides an Alpha. The community has grown resistant to "milking" by now. Make EQ equivalent without additional systems, open it up for alpha players, and then people will likely open their pockets to some degree, so you could potentially complete the "vision". Otherwise people will think that you are just going to retire with their pledges.
It doesn't even look like the weapon is coming into contact with the mob. Here let me wave my axe around in the air and we will pretend it hits.
Positive comment
Dual Wield Vampire Tank!? I'm Sold!
Very excited about class updates like this. 👍
I'm super Excited about this game, is there a full release date?
Bah hahahaha
2027
Can't be that far off right?? Wtf
Its vaporware
Damn, so many things to worry about for my cannabis ridden 40 year old brain. I suppose when I get in in beta I will just pick whichever class does the least work and is easiest to remember. Or maybe I will just be a shitty player wandering around.
These classes always scale up in complexity over dozens of hours or gameplay. New skill every once in a while, so I think you will be able to manage even I'd you are baked out of you mind!
It does sound like a lot but when you get each skill one by one, it makes much more sense. Also, it could be changed like 5 times before beta so ...
I had high hopes for this game, but lets be real. it's 9 years and all we see is 80% talk, 15% art concept and 5% work in progress that seems taken from a mmo of 15-20 years ago. and even if pantheon will be releasd in a distant future, it will never have a player based large enough to stay on the market. I wish the things were different, but that's what I see. the devs should show something much more solid, if they want a fan base larger than few thousand people worldwide. my 2 cents
The game is all HYPE 😂
Was thinking of supporting this game but I really can't say what I will be doing in 40 years when this game release. 🤷♂️
I'm just curious...WHO ASKED!?
Your special ed teacher. Now put your dunce cap on and get back in the corner.
I hope the game will have many options. For example option to disable damage numbers on the screen, I hate that mess lol :P
A well-organized video!
I love everything so far👍👍
Trying to stay hopeful I will get to play this before I die.
20 years to go 😂
I want to learn more about Ranger. What makes them unique? What abilities give them a unique advantage? How does their dps compare and compete with other dps classes like the rogue? What unique or otherwise utility do they offer for a group? What about abilities that interact with the environment like the rogue’s rope, the druid’s bridge, and the mage’s raft?
Also, do we get to make people run fast? :)
Ranger information is still very sparse until the pet system is done. It has been suggested that they aren’t as druidy as EQ. A more unique class with their own abilities not just half a Druid.
I've been waiting for ranger info for a while. I'm hoping it's a capable dps with high mobility vs a gimp druid that flings arrows
DO WARRIOR!
W A R R I O R
@@nikolasweischner3560 yeah ... I guess you'll have to wait some time for that one.
Given the development time, it's amazing how little they have to show.
Just need a few million more and several years... 😀
Given your small brain it's amazing how little you have learned
Haha, yeahhh they need to drop Minus and replace him with someone that actually moves production forward.
@@Shoop... actually its going exactly as intended... their lifestyles are being funded by a project that will never complete.
@@wpochert it’ll be great when the game launches so you finally fizzle out of existence on the topic.
🧛
Imagine creating a lifestyle, by keeping copium addicts paying. These devs sure know how to milk EQ1 nerds 😂
im so sad..
dire lord was already the strongest class fix rogues
y'all think this game is ever coming out? All the hype is dead at this point.
9 years of development and still no final release.
False. 3-4 years of that was unpaid volunteer work to create a proof of concept for investor appeal. After network and engine infrastructure replacement, as well as getting off of Unity store asset dependence, they were finally able to pay their workers and start developing the game in earnest.
You’d know that if you did a little of your own research. It’s opinions like yours that give their efforts a bad image, and it’s disingenuous.
@@Section.9 It is doesn't matter for end client - gamer's. 9 years it is 9 years. You can develop or not develop, slack on the beach, but the announcement was in 2014.
And at current time I don't see more than EverQuest, which was created more faster.
@@dKenGuru If you’re really comparing development tools from the 90s to what it takes in 2023…
I’ve got nothing else for you man.
Also, everyone who has a stake in the game knows it hasn’t been 9 straight years of development of the same product on the same infrastructure.
@@Section.9 Actually, tools got way better
@@Section.9 9 years of development is 9 years of development. Sorry the truth makes you sad.
release date 2030 ?
I can't believe this game has been in development as long as it has while still looking this bad.
I see the desperate people are still complaining about graphics and development time, lol.
Wonder what the next pretty-faced disappointment they play will be, lol
@@anotheryoutubed You can't lose when you lean in neither direction, lol.
I would like to see it released, as it would benefit me directly. If it doesn't I have all ready adjusted to not playing such games or expecting the moon and stars from them.
The people criticizing the game don't want the game that I want, and would never play it even if it did come out. That is how I frame it. :)
@@anotheryoutubed And when it does, come back and revisit these comments. It’d be a nice foot in mouth moment.
@@anotheryoutubed It might not be but it will be closer to Everquest than just about any other modern game will be if it does happen to come out. Usually I say this:
Consider the average dev team size for such a project. It's usually hundreds of people all working under a company either owned by a parent organization or a big corporation. Even then it can still easily take 5+ years with that many people and support. Visionary Realms has a team that is like fifteen times, maybe even twenty times smaller, trying to build the same type of massive game but with the kind of depth that a large team doesn't usually impliment.
This development team is putting their lives and careers on the line with the potential for it to explode in their faces - either way, they have to try to do something because they can't just back out, now. I know people are skeptical but I do think the team is very much genuine. Given their predicament, and the circumstances, it's not surprising they are where they are if you really think about it. They're probably trying their best not to take corporate money, which would be a saving grace if things went horribly south.
Given it's been ten years, I am surprised they've held out as long as they have.
@@anotheryoutubed That's mostly because the audience today are composed of people who are interested in more convenient but ultimately more shallow experiences. What is good for them isn't good for me, and that's why I don't look into any other games of this type, because they are simply not made for someone like me.
There's a pattern now, and it's been like this for a decade, now - most people who pick up a new MMO usually quit them in several months or a short year, and I think it is because they're too simple. They're closer to single player games than they are online experiences. I think what you have is an audience of single player gamers wanting to take that experience online - where it doesn't necessarily belong. They're not nearly deep enough as a general experience to warrant someone to commit to. It's a cycle that repeats itself and even though people see it, they continue to participate in it.
That's why you see these videos like "why are all mmo's dying?" Because they were made for people who will quit them.
I called it 3 years ago... This game is 100% copium
Nice to see classes getting refined . Abilities fit class style .looking forward to seeing other classes as they refine. But need keep purpose of each class , meaning keep tank as main tank allowing dps to do dps and keep healers healing safely. A hybrid class should be able to manage without removing a actual tank. Agro is a must and avoidance and stout robust ac and energy return. And I hope the dotters agro increases each tick making dortin classes don't become dot wizards stacking 7 dots and sitting for mana. Class equality is paramount IMHO.
Combat looks very very bad
Classic WoW’s combat is also very very bad. As is LoTR Online, and OSRS/RS3. As are many other games.
Not everyone wants action-based ADD-infused autist-fueled combat.
@@Section.9 lol this is so true, people complaining about this game are playing vanilla wow and private servers of really old games. just stop crying and wait for it to drop, then say if you like it or not
@@gnarlylocks7752 As a pre alpha tester, I can say that it’s shaping up to be on par with most games of this type. (Old and slow)
Once they clean up animations and rig all the new models, I’m sure it’ll play just fine.
@@Section.9 I know I know.. I think EQ is one of the best mmos so I dont have to try this game to know its going to be good, but not for everyone just like EQ
@@Section.9 classic wow combat is amazing
The problem I have is, the game just looks so bad. It looks like something that was made 20 years ago.
I know... I know. :(.
i agree.
Its in pre-alpha, these aren't even the graphics the game will end up having.
Because graphics and character models are not implemented yet. Core mechanics are the pre-alpha purpose. Pretty comes later.
@DarkSymphony19 it's a bad representation of what people see right now, it shouldn't even be seen
This game looks like it has actually gotten worse. How can this be?
@@anotheryoutubed Tell me you have no clue how a game is made without telling me you have no clue how a game is made.
@@Tyanu_Khah dudes a fucking potato. He’s looking at all the dated proof of concept footage and has no idea what’s happened between then and now.
@@Tyanu_Khah Quality usually increases, not decreases
@@vennril except when you go from a prototype with store bought assets to a temporary (unfinished) home made asset.
@@Tyanu_Khah I honestly hope you are spot on with this.
I invested into the project, I wouldn't want it too fail.
Just from the outside looking in, does not look good.
What even is this. The barebones game available now should have taken no longer than 3 months to make.
Still no summoner :/ so I guess I won't watch another dire lord video
the game is getting worse looking every time i see it.
dire lord is such a lackluster concept. dire lord is a confusing name, the animations look boring with no impact, all these initial abilities have so much detail and text to read, that most people wont read any of it. i hope future vids have less narration and just gameplay footage.
this is a really poor showing for how long this game has been worked on
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Neat! Is this game actually coming out?
When it's done, yes.
@@anotheryoutubed For someone who doesnt care about the game, you seem to spend a lot of time trashtalking in the comments. I wish i had that kid of free time.
Also, yes i drank it, since i can play every month and see substantial progress each time. So now what ?
things are almost too reminiscent of Vanguard instead of EQ imo...
hope this isn't the final style for the DMG numbers, or that you guys allow some addons for dmg meters, dmg numbers etc. cuz those are really boring heh