For some reason this cutscene did not trigger during my first Frenzied Flame Ending, so I uploaded it separately. Thanks to the few people who pointed out that it was missing from my other video.
I hope she brings it with new floor mats and at least full tank of petrol, doesn't seem to be a pump for miles in the lands between. While she's at it, we're gonna need some offroad heavy duty tires in on it too and I'd like to think she's sorted out the insurance to cover for giants smashing it to pieces, fuck no am I paying any excess on that shit.
@@deathslide8 yes, you can use the black pin on dragon elden lords arena to get rid of an outer god's influence, therefore, settings yourself free of the frenzied flame
What if you use the pin to cure yourself? I just beat the Fire giant & have accidently went through the 3 fingers door but haven't lit the fire yet . Don't you have to light the fire first to get to the crumbling furam ? That is the only place you can use the pin to cure the frenzied flame, if i cure it after i burn the tree myself with the frenzied flame will she still be pissed and get this cut scene?
@@madac219 if you burn the tree yourself she doesn't have to burn herself in the forge, so she survives, if you proceed with the chaos ending she's pissed because you betrayed her and killed the whole world, if you burned the tree and used the needle to become free again and proceed with the Elden Lord ending as she wanted you to, she understands you went to great effort to save her, or betrayed her but had a change of heart, we will never know.
@Kyuku it's sort of a general assumption that's up to people, she either believes you did that to save her or you abandoned/betrayed her but had a change of heart, it can't be definite because it's dependant on what a player's motivation really was and that's always personal
The way I played my frenzied flame run was I helped absolutely everyone so that those who survived were as happy as possible before I burned them and everything they know into oblivion. That way they know it’s nothing personal.
Anyone else notice how much more depressing the roundtable becomes? At the end of the game you are the only one that will come out alive since roderika and hewg decide to burn with the roundtable
If you exhaust their conversations, roderika will decide to stay with hewg to the very end, meaning literally everyone who ever joined the roundtable will be dead at the end of this ending.
@@chunchoe simply because it's part of the erdtree, if not physically then symbolically. When Marika came to power, the Age of Erdtree began. The Erdtree is the symbol of Marika's reign, and the idea of the tarnished being banished to war in a far away land, die, ressurected, and return to fight for lordship forever was part Marika's grand scheme. So when you burn the Erdtree, you also burn Marika's plans to the ground. The roundtable hold that facilitates tarnished on their hollow quest to lordship is quite literally no longer needed at that point onward.
Fuck Torrent. That donkey can roast for all I care. Little bastard is always glitching out, making me fall off cliffs and run right into enemy weapons.
I love the detail that Melina's eye that she usually looks through is clouded by cataracts and scar tissue from the bright blaze of the frenzied flame melting the world back into one.
Guys her charred corpse is in the divine tower in Lurinia lakes, they are not related. The doll is modeled after Ranni’s mentor, her actual body looks nothing like the blue skinned doll, no extra arms, she is dead, her soul inhabits the doll. I get that the faces look similar but she’s not the same person as Melina
Kinda sucks how there’s no special cutscene for her once you cleanse yourself of the Frenzied Flame using Miquella’s needle. I guess it’s just for closure that you saved Melina from sacrificing herself. But it’s up to interpretation if she finds out what you did for her or not and whether she hates you or forgives you. Still, maidenless regardless.
My guess is that you need to decline her offer and then use the frenzied flame to burn the ruits and then use the needle to remove the frenzied flame to unlock a special ending that would revolve around her.
@den You are right, I just finished the game using the cleanse method, its nice that Melina is alive and all but kinda sucks that the game pretty much doesn't acknowledge it. Feels like the game has lots of cut content in questline endings like diallos questline for example.
@@Wrathaholic0588 We would have already found it on youtube if that was the case. people are trying lots of methods everywhere, but I guess it wont hurt to try it, Would be awesome if it worked.
I pulled a vyke my first run and got burned by the 3 fingers a few bosses away from finishing the game, which meant that I unfortunately missed this cutscene
I was strongly on the side that this implies Melina is related to Ranni, but I've been somewhat convinced that Melina could be the Gloam-Eyed Queen, Empyrean leader of the Godskin Apostles and the original owner of Destined Death.
The Gloam Eyed Queen was never the original owner of Destined Death. The Godksin Cult had control over BlackFlame that derived it's power from the fact that Death was unbound, in the sense that Death applies to everyone. Destined Death is merely a Great Rune that Maliketh holds. H ewielded to suppress the power of the BlackFlame.
@@bacula8424 no. Radagon was his own person a half giant who got chosen by marika to be her consort after godfrey(or godwyn i keep getting them mixed up) got cast out. They later became 1 being. Marika's children with godfrey are the line that turned tarnished and have tarnished silver hair. Godfrey godwyn godrick Morgott. Marika's children with radagon who has giants blood and the red hair of giants has the red haired children, miquella, malenia radahn etc. Ranni is a direct daughter of renalla the moon queen and perhaps she is offspring of her and radagon as they were consorts before he left for marika
You clearly don't know who you're talking to, so let me clue you in. I am not in danger Melina, I am THE danger. Followed as far as one can travel to be killed and you think that of me? No. I am the one who follows!
Literally killed every demi gods even a god, vassal of the greater will, do Melina think she stand a chance? Black Knife Assasins are literally just an appetizer she stands no chance at all!
Ranni the Witch ending if you inherit, then cure yourself of the Frenzied Flame: 1. Age of Erdtree over, Age of Stars begins (check) 2. Become a Lord (check) 3. Have a Goddess waifu (check) 4. Marika/Ragadon is now your Step-Mother/Father and Renalla is your Step-Mother (check) 5. Melina probably big mad about essentially being replaced by Ranni (check)
@@travisoliver6741 no way this would be a thing but: imagine if in the next NG+ you start, Melina roams through all the lands as a sort of hunter you either have to fight or avoid and if she kills you your entire save file gets corrupted.
This ending reminds me of the setup for Julius mode in Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow. Melina mode with the Lord of Frenzied Flame as a final boss would be a sick DLC/spinoff
There has to be dlcs following up on each ending, Like Melina being the final boss when following up on this ending, an outer god for the Ranni ending or even going against the two fingers at the neutral ending thanks to you burning the erdetree
It's called tranquil fury she's pissed obviously but instead of giving into a blind hot fury she using her anger to strengthen her resolve into a cold hard edge of revenge.
So I'm pretty convinced she's the spirit of the gloam-eyed queen. Possible Spoilers ahead: She has dialog saying she wants to know why she's "burned and bodiless". Marika is her "mother" and the way she seems familiar with "Destined Death" is kind of loaded. The gloam-eyed queen originally wieded the black flame which could kill gods and deliver to them "Destined Death". Your essentially a god which makes me think the black flame in particular can kill you. Especially with Order more or less burned away. In the Morgott fight she uses fire. That's not wild or anything but she has familiarity with its use. My big thing here is Marika is her mother and singularly. I think Marika created her from whatever remains of the gloam-eyed queen she possesses and smothered her with "Order" to not know herself or what she is truly capable of. In the Frenzied Flame ending Order is burned away. My thoughts are in the same way binding "Destined Death" to Maliketh's blade weakened it, burning away "Order" weakened it as well. I don't think it's completely gone the same way Destined Death wasn't completely gone but I think, if she's really the gloam-eyed queen then it makes sense that burning order would release her from whatever goal Marika tried to put on her.
Marika is def not her mother. She was born at the foot of the tree. Meaning roots. IMO/theory i think ranni cast aside her flesh to not only ward off the fingers and the greater will but to reincarnate the dusk eye queen with half her soul. which would explain why she only appears in spirit/summon form as well as their visual similarities up until she fully reveals her true appearance in the frenzy flame ending. The dusk eye queen most certainly was alive before the erdtree became one n all in the lands. Maybe her home was below the roots where she was forced to flee due to the elden beast taking over and planting the erdtree? We now know that there was an elden ring of a different era before the erdtree, so as some items suggest; she was the original warden for destined death before Maliketh was sent to slay her. The elden ring we know, has its lower arch pointed upwards, with other circles conjoined in the center but the prior elden ring has the same arch pointing upwards but has roots spiraling outwards below that arch
I agree with your theory and am of the same mind :). One thing I would like to add to give even more credence to your theory is that Marika had Maliketh sealed away Destined death and remove it from the Elden Ring. This caused life unending in the Lands Between. The Gloam-Eyed Queen and Maliketh battled and history states Maliketh won. In his victory he sealed away the blackflames true strength which was likely the orignal form of destined death which is represented possibly by Melina's closed eye. With Maliketh's defeat, her eye is open possibly insinuating she was the original owner of destined death and possibly was the original owner of the Rune of Death which Maliketh was guarding. I beleive she is Marika's daughter or another Fragment of Marika sinilar to Radagon with her own set of ideals and Great Rune. Another theory is an outergod could dwell in her eye sinilar to the Fire Giant, this theory can be back by those the worship and are sedcuee by the blackflame. Whatever the case, Marika turned on Melina and sealed away the ability to die out of her own Hubris. Melina's Goal seems to be to restore the cycle of life and death so the natural order can occur again. The Godskins may have been overzealous in their original hunt which may be why Marika had Maliketh defeat her. Melina just may not remember what happened or payed the price of it with her fleshly body similar to how Ranni did with the Night of the Black Knives. Its curious that she is existing in some spirit realm after all....
@@azearaazymoto461but you also become way dumber (but a faith built version of the tarnished would be stupid to fight against, only incarnations because I feel like most faith weapons are slow for some reason, and then with infinite fp, blessing of the erdtree, no way to be backstabbed and buffed poise you could sustain anything, and then big AoE like the ancient dragon lightning skill that at player version is already a boss-like AoE).
Dude I finished the game and now I feel stupid for missing all these questlines. truly commendable that you have found them and made guides for us to find. Thanks
Idk why but I think she blinded her right eye so the frenzy couldn’t effect her, and I think her left eye has a frenzy marking on it so it is possible the mark is wards off frenzy.
I think that represents she is the gloom eyed queen, who controls the destined death before marika sealed them away, then somehow she is defeated and became another form of existence- melina who lost her memories, burned and bodyless. She lived as melina for a while, if you become the lord of frenzied flame, and freed death, she takes back her power as an Empyreans chosen by fingers, and destined death can kill anything in elden ring, that's why she said she is going to deliver you destined death.
The way she looks dead into camera as though gazing through the fourth wall gives me chills every time. It's like she knows our tarnished is just an avatar controlled by we extradimensional beings, and she knows we're to blame for fucking up her world.
This ending literally turns you into Griffith. You betrayed your shawty and pet, so now she’s coming to kill you for revenge, even though you’ve essentially become a god Edit: BERSERK IS COMING BACK BOYSSSSSS
Bro isn't it crazy how Norse mythology copied the world tree from berserk 😝😝😝 and also did you see that armor it was exactly like the one guts used to have. Not may people know this but the grass you see everywhere is a direct reference to the grass you see in berserk.
i dont know how they would implement it, but id be very curious to see how she'd be as a boss fight if you went with the frenzied flame ending. I'm sure she'd act like how she does when you summon her against Morgott, but I wonder if they'd add any new attacks to spice up her fight
There's a video on TH-cam showing that she actually has a full boss set of moves including the attacks she uses in the Morgott. Most likely she was originally meant to be a boss after you accepted the Frenzied Flame (or to prevent you from taking it) until they scratched it. Highly likely it'll show up in a dlc
They would probably scale her model up to be larger and more ‘imposing’ and it could be justified as her embracing her true form or self post frenzied flame ending. Most main bosses have to be large in some sense.
Shame that there is no cutscene for her if you use the pin to avoid going insane. I would've liked to see an ending with that, even if she's mad. Edit: typo
Ranni is the official waifu in this game. She has way more dialoagues and cutscenes than Melina, a whole questline, and ending dedicated to her and she personally wears the ring offered by the player character. Melina I don't know just exists so that you can level up and get the horse maybe. And she leaves the game permenantly if you don't get the frenzied flame (and infuriates her so much she leaves you forever).
Yeah they really had to twist the knife by saying and you killed best boy torrent. Which sucks because she says he chose you at the beginning. In a sense he's your first supporter. Boy gets done dirty.
It's really interesting that she gets her body back in this ending. Kind of like she was Queen Marika's contingency plan in case of this specific outcome. Also it's somewhat frightening that she seems confident in her ability to combat the entity that just killed a god and burned the Erdtree to ash.
More like after realizing her being Messmer’s sister and most likely has something like his Based Serpent, I more worried about the Tarnished. Especially when she seems to be able to wield Destined Death here
I like how in Dark Souls 3, the Fire Keeper would remain loyal to you, even if you decided to let the flame die, yet in Elden Ring Melina threatens to kill you if you decide to go for any of the bad endings lmao
I like to think Melina seeks out Ranni and whoever else isn't dead yet in this playthrough and is all like "I'm putting together a a team. Almost like some kind of Suicide Squad."
@@duaIism I don't think thats relevant considering what DS canon endings are (linking the fire in ds1 is pretty much canon considering ds3) i don't think thats relevant in the slightest
I think Stars and Flame are equal in priority, in which one is a true good ending and the other is the true bad ending. This cutscene is probably for people who want to see the bad ending but also feel better about it because they know Melina is about to kill them (me)
I feel like we should have gotten a Melina interaction if we used the needle to cleanse the flame after we used the flame to spare her at the forge. If you talk to shabiri before inheriting the flames and then talk to Melina at a campsite after she kind of talks up how her sacrifice is her choice and it's hers to make so I doubt she would be exactly pleased with us but still some acknowledgement that we saved her life would be nice.
Like i get this is supposed to be a cool threatening moment , but fr by this point the tarnished has killed literally every god and demi god. Melina couldnt get to the Erdtree on her own. Feels like kind of a hollow threat
It probably will. Likely DLC for each individual ending. Although I think the only one that would matter is this one and Ranni’s as they’re the two most significant and incredibly different ones.
id say it wont. would be cool a spin off where u are her tahts the only way id see it happening. miyazaki wont do a dlc of teh game where u are other character. and a dlc that follow your character afther he conquer the world wont be a thing neither.
Here after the expansion annoucement and seeing the image of Miquella riding Torrent. In this ending the only thing that endured the frenzied flame is the ring/whistle used for Torrent. That's because it's made of Miquella's gold, the only thing capable of repelling it
Ranni's ending is still the best imo. We free the souls trapped at the erdtree, disconnect the greater will from the lands between and we also go to space with best girl Ranni and fulfill her destiny. Plus it also works out quite well for Melina if the theory of the gloam eyed queen is true. What better ending is there?
@@AB-jt4rs i would say the death ending is good too since it gets rid of rebirth and the immortals can truly die, especially those afflicted by scarlet rot that are just suffering. The tree feeds off death and misery basically so making those who keep coming back and making it stronger just rest in peace isn't a bad option. It also makes it so all the outer gods that might try and take power eventually have to watch out since death can get them too.
@@j.a.r.5974 but the problem is that not everything died. Including Melina. If Melina didn't die, imagine how many other malevolent gods survived too. And worse yet, now that the lands between has effectively been put on factory reset, those gods now have a fun little sand pit to play around in, and probably create even more suffering to the beings that survived and future beings to rise
I hope that when and IF the dlcs are going to come out, we are getting some variations in bosses, depending on our endings, I'd say it would be kinda cool to fight Melina after you get the Frenzied Flame ending, or some shit like that.
@@matthewgiliberto4163 I mean, a ng+ is a ng+, I guess you can do a certain ending, then get certain bosses in one playthrough, and then if you want different boss/bosses You would do a different ending on next ng+
i think the frenzied flame ending wouldve triggered a secret boss fight against melina maybe its hidden somewhere in the game or they never did it but you can someone her to assist you in the fight against morgott so she can fight
To anyone that doesn't know, she is the dusk eyed queen or also referenced as the gloam eyed queen. She brings destined death to the immortals AKA the gods, that's why the godskin apostles and nobles exist and the black flames they use are the means to which they kill gods. Ranni became a doll to escape that destined death and yet she plotted for the black blades to kill Godwyn. Maliketh hunts death because he serves the Gods and thus protects the destined death so that the Gods keep living eternally. Maliketh killed the Dusk eyed queen and that's why he guards the destined death at Farum Azula
There are two possible good paths IMO for Melina: You can either go through the story naturally, and let her sacrifice herself; she is destined to be burnt and most importantly bodyless, OR you can get rid of the frenzied flame, and keep her alive by using Miquella's needle, after using the frenzied flame to burn the tree, leaving Melina alive, but not certain if she will die anyway once the tree is burnt down.
during mt first playthrough i only discovered the leyndell sewers after melina sacrificed herself to burn the erdtree, and thus only picked up the flame right before ending the game, so I ended up not seeing this cutscene and I was really confused when people talked about it
So there's a lot of evidence piling up that Melina may be the Gloam-eyed Queen. The first bearer of the Rune of Death, leader of the Godskin Apostles, and the original weilder of the great sword I've been using to one shot most of my foes into oblivion. This might be a problem for our newly anointed Lord of Chaos... Or is it? Because it's worth remembering that in the end Gloam-eyed Queen was ultimately defeated by Malekith, the very same Malekith that the we the Tarnished just defeated to get this ending. On top of having already surpassed a foe that the former Queen lost to the Tarnished has also ascended to even greater heights, having the direct patronage of one of the Outer Gods, basically becoming a god themselves.
Elden ring starts off kind of more of happy journey as your weak and new too this world to only see it become more depressed as others around you fall on your quest
I feel like we got shorted an ending with this whole frenzied flame/cure flame/ save melina kind of deal but maybe if it gets enough attention maybe well see an added ending of some sort? just keeping my hopes up at this point lol
Because you were never meant to 'save Melina'. Ugh. Fromsoft doesn't want to acknowledge your type because it has something to say about fate. People always, try to skirt around consequences. That's not how they do things, at From.
@@JAY-ts5ds Yes there is, you no longer get the flame of frenzy option. You are now locked into the other endings with that one behind you. As such the game proceeds with your other ambitions as if Melina had burned the tree, but she hasn't. She no longer has a direct place in your story, and has her own life to live.
@@Vespyr_ but why couldn’t we just get that closure in a secret ending or something that’s all I’m saying there’s no proof that the actions we took for that ending had any value it just seems weird that your allowed to jump through that many hoops and you still get the same prize
@@JAY-ts5ds Personally after all the effort one takes to even get marked by the Frenzied Flame, to suddenly choose to correct such a commitment to be somewhat hollow, but such is the consequence to a lack of commitment toward ones ambitions. It is, in essence, a choice. Through this you allow Melina to have her life. But the ending is about your ascent to Elden Lord. Not some girl's destiny. The only reason you even see her here is because your decision destroyed all destinies and thus your fates intertwine.
For some reason this cutscene did not trigger during my first Frenzied Flame Ending, so I uploaded it separately. Thanks to the few people who pointed out that it was missing from my other video.
My issue with the flame is that it clearly destroys torrent's ring and Melina isn't supposed to die for what feels like cut content or dlc.
that was because you got the frenzied flame after she sacrificed.. she cant be in the cutscene if shes dead lol
@@gragiator1 No, I didn't get it yet. I'm just annoyed with how unfinished and inconsistent it looks.
@@Setsuna012 im not talking to you
It doesn't trigger if you use Miquella's needle, if she used as sacrifice for the fire or if you don't talk to her before accepting the tree fingers.
"To deliver you what is yours..."
My Honda Accord you promised me at the beginning of the game?
for real im at the Altus Plateau and im still waiting for it
lmaoo ahahaha
I hope she brings it with new floor mats and at least full tank of petrol, doesn't seem to be a pump for miles in the lands between. While she's at it, we're gonna need some offroad heavy duty tires in on it too and I'd like to think she's sorted out the insurance to cover for giants smashing it to pieces, fuck no am I paying any excess on that shit.
Have you guys found the secret ending where she calls you about your car's extended warranty??
@@tomhuddleston1850 I'm here to talk about your horses extended warranty
start of game = melina gives you purpose
end of game = you give melina purpose
I mean she already have purpose at the start, you just destroyed her first purpose.
and then we become best friends
@@Spine223that's if you cure yourself with the needle
This cutscene only triggers if you burn the roots yourself by siding with three fingers before Melina sacrifices herself
though you can stop it by putting milenas pin in yourself.
@@deathslide8 yes, you can use the black pin on dragon elden lords arena to get rid of an outer god's influence, therefore, settings yourself free of the frenzied flame
What if you use the pin to cure yourself? I just beat the Fire giant & have accidently went through the 3 fingers door but haven't lit the fire yet . Don't you have to light the fire first to get to the crumbling furam ? That is the only place you can use the pin to cure the frenzied flame, if i cure it after i burn the tree myself with the frenzied flame will she still be pissed and get this cut scene?
@@madac219 if you burn the tree yourself she doesn't have to burn herself in the forge, so she survives, if you proceed with the chaos ending she's pissed because you betrayed her and killed the whole world, if you burned the tree and used the needle to become free again and proceed with the Elden Lord ending as she wanted you to, she understands you went to great effort to save her, or betrayed her but had a change of heart, we will never know.
@Kyuku it's sort of a general assumption that's up to people, she either believes you did that to save her or you abandoned/betrayed her but had a change of heart, it can't be definite because it's dependant on what a player's motivation really was and that's always personal
The way I played my frenzied flame run was I helped absolutely everyone so that those who survived were as happy as possible before I burned them and everything they know into oblivion. That way they know it’s nothing personal.
It seems personal
With how annoying their quests are. It seems personal
Yeah I'm a hafta agree with these two. Seems personal.
this was... more evil than you thought tbh 😭
that's the complete oposite of not personal haha
Hello, my name is Melina.
You killed my horse... prepare to die.
Good princess Bride reference. sadly doesn't flow as well as the original.
Inigo montoya
@@AlastorAltruistGaming Not John Wick at all man, Princess Bride reference
Miquellas horse
wait time out, Frenzied flame ending kills Torrent?? Okay people who actually did that are monsters now
Anyone else notice how much more depressing the roundtable becomes?
At the end of the game you are the only one that will come out alive since roderika and hewg decide to burn with the roundtable
If you exhaust their conversations, roderika will decide to stay with hewg to the very end, meaning literally everyone who ever joined the roundtable will be dead at the end of this ending.
@@ChuinYih oh :( guess i will change the comment
why does the roundtable burn anyway?
@@chunchoe simply because it's part of the erdtree, if not physically then symbolically. When Marika came to power, the Age of Erdtree began. The Erdtree is the symbol of Marika's reign, and the idea of the tarnished being banished to war in a far away land, die, ressurected, and return to fight for lordship forever was part Marika's grand scheme. So when you burn the Erdtree, you also burn Marika's plans to the ground. The roundtable hold that facilitates tarnished on their hollow quest to lordship is quite literally no longer needed at that point onward.
@@ChuinYih ah thank you for explaining al that makes alot of sense when you break it down like that i appreciate it!
the ring she picks up is the spectral steed whistle (the ring with which we call torrent)
Sooo it is the bad ending!!
@@epiclifeross yes lol 😂
i thought it's the dark seal and it actually is ds4
Spectral steed whistle? Dude, that’s a dark sigil
@@Arthas972 you could literally hear the whistle at the start, as if torrent's in pain.
Hearing Torrent cry out for help gets me and melina taunting your title as lord of frenzy is just badass.
Read a dictionary.
Absolutely. It may be the bad ending but it doesn't mean it isn't a powerful one.
@@person906 Bad-Ends are Best-Ends.
Fuck Torrent. That donkey can roast for all I care. Little bastard is always glitching out, making me fall off cliffs and run right into enemy weapons.
Melina is going to get incinerated. She's weak asf. Can't even damage Morgott.
I love the detail that Melina's eye that she usually looks through is clouded by cataracts and scar tissue from the bright blaze of the frenzied flame melting the world back into one.
@Clarrence Silvederio Theories that are nonsensical are better left alone
@Clarrence Silvederio melina IS ranni
@@ZiotGaming nope because the first time we meet ranni she mentions melina
@@ambrizfer7898 … so?
Guys her charred corpse is in the divine tower in Lurinia lakes, they are not related. The doll is modeled after Ranni’s mentor, her actual body looks nothing like the blue skinned doll, no extra arms, she is dead, her soul inhabits the doll. I get that the faces look similar but she’s not the same person as Melina
Kinda sucks how there’s no special cutscene for her once you cleanse yourself of the Frenzied Flame using Miquella’s needle. I guess it’s just for closure that you saved Melina from sacrificing herself. But it’s up to interpretation if she finds out what you did for her or not and whether she hates you or forgives you. Still, maidenless regardless.
My guess is that you need to decline her offer and then use the frenzied flame to burn the ruits and then use the needle to remove the frenzied flame to unlock a special ending that would revolve around her.
@@Wrathaholic0588 sounds plausible I might try this in my next play through, thanks for the idea!
@den You are right, I just finished the game using the cleanse method, its nice that Melina is alive and all but kinda sucks that the game pretty much doesn't acknowledge it. Feels like the game has lots of cut content in questline endings like diallos questline for example.
@@Wrathaholic0588 We would have already found it on youtube if that was the case. people are trying lots of methods everywhere, but I guess it wont hurt to try it, Would be awesome if it worked.
@@Wrathaholic0588 you can't reach the mountaintop of giants without her though, she is the one who gives you the rune to the lift
Frenzied flame ending is just you saying, "If I am maidenless then I shall rid the entire world so everyone else is maidenless"
"If i can't get any bitches, no. one. will."
Elliot Rodger ending be like
@@ayusoraua570 Shame my boy Elliot ain't around to experience this masterpiece of a game.
@@Melqhii
*"If everyone else is super. No one will be."*
The Turbo Incel ending
I got this ending on my first run. When Melina said she was going to leave me I thought I messed up, but ended up getting this unique ending.
That's the spirit! You can always play again
you...definitely still messed up.
I pulled a vyke my first run and got burned by the 3 fingers a few bosses away from finishing the game, which meant that I unfortunately missed this cutscene
nah this the best ending
you still messed up bro
I was strongly on the side that this implies Melina is related to Ranni, but I've been somewhat convinced that Melina could be the Gloam-Eyed Queen, Empyrean leader of the Godskin Apostles and the original owner of Destined Death.
I forgot about that lady!! In the descryption we find that Maliketh win over Melina!? wow
Isn't Melina already half siblings with Ranni anyways? She's the daughter of Radagon and Ranni is implied to be his daughter too.
@@OrigoZ Radagon was actually Marika all along so full siblings somehow? Or all demigods are half siblings then...
The Gloam Eyed Queen was never the original owner of Destined Death.
The Godksin Cult had control over BlackFlame that derived it's power from the fact that Death was unbound, in the sense that Death applies to everyone.
Destined Death is merely a Great Rune that Maliketh holds. H ewielded to suppress the power of the BlackFlame.
@@bacula8424 no. Radagon was his own person a half giant who got chosen by marika to be her consort after godfrey(or godwyn i keep getting them mixed up) got cast out. They later became 1 being. Marika's children with godfrey are the line that turned tarnished and have tarnished silver hair. Godfrey godwyn godrick Morgott. Marika's children with radagon who has giants blood and the red hair of giants has the red haired children, miquella, malenia radahn etc. Ranni is a direct daughter of renalla the moon queen and perhaps she is offspring of her and radagon as they were consorts before he left for marika
Melina: "To deliver you what is yours: Destined Death."
The Player: "I'm in danger..."
You got no power here !!! *stays at the roundtable hold* ^^
The player: I am the danger
You clearly don't know who you're talking to, so let me clue you in. I am not in danger Melina, I am THE danger. Followed as far as one can travel to be killed and you think that of me? No. I am the one who follows!
The Player: *Is burning her world to the ground*
Literally killed every demi gods even a god, vassal of the greater will, do Melina think she stand a chance? Black Knife Assasins are literally just an appetizer she stands no chance at all!
0:07 Poor, poor Torrent crying in pain, probably dying... and abandoned 😢😢😢😢
I got chills when she suddenly looks at you and says that, almost like she is actually looking at you
I am afraid yet aroused...
Well to be fair we are all destined to die so I mean on a meta level she could be.
Reminded me of Malenia's "...Now rot!" 😵
@@eyo8766 you can't be both choose one
@@eyo8766 I believe the word you're looking for is "sca-roused"
This is the best ending:
1. Tree burned (check)
2. Become a lord (check)
3. Melina alive and a purpose to live (check)
also you MAY have destroyed the world. Ooops.
Thorveim it’s better to put this worlds foolish ambitions to rest than watch it rot.
Someone gotta break the cycle right? It’s pretty F**ked up anyway.
John Zhang same thing with dark souls
Ranni the Witch ending if you inherit, then cure yourself of the Frenzied Flame:
1. Age of Erdtree over, Age of Stars begins (check)
2. Become a Lord (check)
3. Have a Goddess waifu (check)
4. Marika/Ragadon is now your Step-Mother/Father and Renalla is your Step-Mother (check)
5. Melina probably big mad about essentially being replaced by Ranni (check)
Melina :
"i will deliver you destined death "
Tarnished :
laughs in i frames
I-flames
But your tarnished is dead, the frenzied flame melted your consciousness and uses your body as a vessel
@@aqua5758 still would be cool to fight her as frenzy flame lord i wanna have that in my head cannon
@@aqua5758 Likely not, otherwise who is Melina trying to kill.
@@crimansizers5840 Your body
"To deliver you what is yours... Destined Death"
Oh honey you're talkin to a person who's seen that YOU DIED screen a million times for 11 years now 😂
Idk man. Destined Death sounds like she's gonna permakill you.
Imagine if you fight her in game, and she deletes your save file if you die.
Death was not real in Elden ring, it was taken away from the people. They were living in this endlessly.
@@travisoliver6741 sounds like undertale if you ask me
@@travisoliver6741 no way this would be a thing but: imagine if in the next NG+ you start, Melina roams through all the lands as a sort of hunter you either have to fight or avoid and if she kills you your entire save file gets corrupted.
@@bravoravenofpestilence1161ow I’d really be scared. Should be a game mode.
The true chaotic evil ending is letting her burn herself and then later on you take up the frenzied flame.
I did this without knowing 😢
@@radahnradio2483 same
Ehemmm i did this😔 but was the point? Even if we let her live she will hate us forever
I did that intentionally. Can't be threatened by someone who's no longer in existence. 😂
Melina: Let me burn bro!
Tarnished: I do! I do let you burn!
*2nd playthrough*
Let me burn again maan
@@mofogoto7282 "No"
LMFAO Loving these "let me bang bro" memes
This ending reminds me of the setup for Julius mode in Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow. Melina mode with the Lord of Frenzied Flame as a final boss would be a sick DLC/spinoff
The hell, The same thing was thinking but with aria of sorrow, a man of culture I see
Damn, this makes me miss castlevania games ;(
Honestly a Fixed Stat Mode with Melina would be a really cool challenge mode.
@Ahmad Adnan hands-down
There has to be dlcs following up on each ending, Like Melina being the final boss when following up on this ending, an outer god for the Ranni ending or even going against the two fingers at the neutral ending thanks to you burning the erdetree
I would prefer if Melina becomes a friend and always be at the sanctuary, this game is ALL sadness haha 😆
@@iprobablydontcareofyou338 not the Ranni ending bro, you're finally not maidenless
@@randomguy8552 true! But I don't like her haha I prefer Melina, she is cute 😆
@@iprobablydontcareofyou338 blasphemy 😂😂
I don't think I want to fight Melina after seeing her beat the shit out of Morgott
Me throughout the entire ending cutscene: “I did not want this, I did it for the achievement, I did not want this, I did it for the achievement…”
Preach
Frenzied Flame: Sure you did...
Spread Chaos throughout the soul. Spread Chaos throughout the world.
You wanted the achievement.
And this, is what you wanted to achieve.
i wanted it, may chaos take the world
The only true ending for flame of frenzy enjoyers
Melina is so composed in this scene. If I were in her shoes, I'd be physically trembling with fury.
She seems determined
She’s gonna swoon another Tarnished to slap the Rune of Death onto your back faster than a black knife assassin on the Night of Black Knives
It's called tranquil fury she's pissed obviously but instead of giving into a blind hot fury she using her anger to strengthen her resolve into a cold hard edge of revenge.
Well, she already knows that it's 100% sure that she is going to kill you. It's called "Destined" for a reason.
So I'm pretty convinced she's the spirit of the gloam-eyed queen. Possible Spoilers ahead:
She has dialog saying she wants to know why she's "burned and bodiless". Marika is her "mother" and the way she seems familiar with "Destined Death" is kind of loaded. The gloam-eyed queen originally wieded the black flame which could kill gods and deliver to them "Destined Death". Your essentially a god which makes me think the black flame in particular can kill you. Especially with Order more or less burned away. In the Morgott fight she uses fire. That's not wild or anything but she has familiarity with its use. My big thing here is Marika is her mother and singularly. I think Marika created her from whatever remains of the gloam-eyed queen she possesses and smothered her with "Order" to not know herself or what she is truly capable of. In the Frenzied Flame ending Order is burned away. My thoughts are in the same way binding "Destined Death" to Maliketh's blade weakened it, burning away "Order" weakened it as well. I don't think it's completely gone the same way Destined Death wasn't completely gone but I think, if she's really the gloam-eyed queen then it makes sense that burning order would release her from whatever goal Marika tried to put on her.
Marika is def not her mother. She was born at the foot of the tree. Meaning roots. IMO/theory i think ranni cast aside her flesh to not only ward off the fingers and the greater will but to reincarnate the dusk eye queen with half her soul. which would explain why she only appears in spirit/summon form as well as their visual similarities up until she fully reveals her true appearance in the frenzy flame ending. The dusk eye queen most certainly was alive before the erdtree became one n all in the lands. Maybe her home was below the roots where she was forced to flee due to the elden beast taking over and planting the erdtree? We now know that there was an elden ring of a different era before the erdtree, so as some items suggest; she was the original warden for destined death before Maliketh was sent to slay her. The elden ring we know, has its lower arch pointed upwards, with other circles conjoined in the center but the prior elden ring has the same arch pointing upwards but has roots spiraling outwards below that arch
@@jinji_xo In the files, she's literally called MarikaDaughter...
@@TheStraightestWhitest 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Melina has the exact weapon of a black knife assassin except without the mark of death effect
I agree with your theory and am of the same mind :). One thing I would like to add to give even more credence to your theory is that Marika had Maliketh sealed away Destined death and remove it from the Elden Ring. This caused life unending in the Lands Between. The Gloam-Eyed Queen and Maliketh battled and history states Maliketh won. In his victory he sealed away the blackflames true strength which was likely the orignal form of destined death which is represented possibly by Melina's closed eye.
With Maliketh's defeat, her eye is open possibly insinuating she was the original owner of destined death and possibly was the original owner of the Rune of Death which Maliketh was guarding.
I beleive she is Marika's daughter or another Fragment of Marika sinilar to Radagon with her own set of ideals and Great Rune. Another theory is an outergod could dwell in her eye sinilar to the Fire Giant, this theory can be back by those the worship and are sedcuee by the blackflame.
Whatever the case, Marika turned on Melina and sealed away the ability to die out of her own Hubris. Melina's Goal seems to be to restore the cycle of life and death so the natural order can occur again. The Godskins may have been overzealous in their original hunt which may be why Marika had Maliketh defeat her. Melina just may not remember what happened or payed the price of it with her fleshly body similar to how Ranni did with the Night of the Black Knives. Its curious that she is existing in some spirit realm after all....
us tarnished after slaying everything while she stood at the sidelines giving little to no field support: "Return to sender"
I'm pretty sure you can summon melina to help you in battle
@@muhammadnazmihaqimbinkamar5566 yeah, when you go to fight morgott
You can say this if you beat the game without levelling up or using torrent LOL
Yeah for one fight and she's more of a detriment than helpful.
@@joshwhite557 how, she litelary spawns a tree that heals you without you using your estus, and she is the only reason why every could b elden lord.
As much as I want a DLC that continues this ending, I'm sure it's going to be an open ending just like the Shura ending on Sekiro.
-To deliver you what is yours... destined death
-Tell that to the 10x health better version of me.
Destined Death and Black Flame do percentage health damage so it would quite literally not make any difference.
@@nifty6970 ...The joke was you become a boss with much better stats than you had as a player.
@@azearaazymoto461but you also become way dumber (but a faith built version of the tarnished would be stupid to fight against, only incarnations because I feel like most faith weapons are slow for some reason, and then with infinite fp, blessing of the erdtree, no way to be backstabbed and buffed poise you could sustain anything, and then big AoE like the ancient dragon lightning skill that at player version is already a boss-like AoE).
Dude I finished the game and now I feel stupid for missing all these questlines. truly commendable that you have found them and made guides for us to find. Thanks
the different endings give you a reason to play new game + multiple times. dont feel stupid for doing the normal ending first
Don't worry there's like 5 or 6 endings all with specific quests attached to them. There no way you can do everything in 1 go
There's no reason to feel stupid about missing quests in a Fromsoft game.
no need to feel stupid for missing them when the quests are cryptic, poorly explained, and generally designed like complete dogshit
Then that means you didn't finish the game. Time to fire up NG+ and get back in there.
Idk why but I think she blinded her right eye so the frenzy couldn’t effect her, and I think her left eye has a frenzy marking on it so it is possible the mark is wards off frenzy.
I think that represents she is the gloom eyed queen, who controls the destined death before marika sealed them away, then somehow she is defeated and became another form of existence- melina who lost her memories, burned and bodyless. She lived as melina for a while, if you become the lord of frenzied flame, and freed death, she takes back her power as an Empyreans chosen by fingers, and destined death can kill anything in elden ring, that's why she said she is going to deliver you destined death.
@@haha9051 great thought 💪
@@haha9051 holy shit dude. I knew the lore was deep, but the possibilities are truly endless
@@haha9051 Could it also be her mother maybe? the gloom eyed queen, and she inherited the power or so.
I thought she was rannis flesh
The way she looks dead into camera as though gazing through the fourth wall gives me chills every time. It's like she knows our tarnished is just an avatar controlled by we extradimensional beings, and she knows we're to blame for fucking up her world.
damnn well said
So Outer Gods = players of Elden Ring?
@@arvinsimwe turn into a Great One in Bloodborne so maybe?
Bro thinks he is outversal
I love that thought. Thanks for sharing it.
This ending literally turns you into Griffith. You betrayed your shawty and pet, so now she’s coming to kill you for revenge, even though you’ve essentially become a god
Edit: BERSERK IS COMING BACK BOYSSSSSS
Then would Blaidd and ranni still be alive?
Cause if they are then Blaidds going full guts on you. You quite literally turn into Griffith.
@@Fro_ozo so true!
And your player character is probably just as concerned for his safety as God King Griffith is being threatened by Guts XD
@@Fro_ozo only after you rape Ranni in front of him.
Bro isn't it crazy how Norse mythology copied the world tree from berserk 😝😝😝 and also did you see that armor it was exactly like the one guts used to have. Not may people know this but the grass you see everywhere is a direct reference to the grass you see in berserk.
i dont know how they would implement it, but id be very curious to see how she'd be as a boss fight if you went with the frenzied flame ending. I'm sure she'd act like how she does when you summon her against Morgott, but I wonder if they'd add any new attacks to spice up her fight
There's a video on TH-cam showing that she actually has a full boss set of moves including the attacks she uses in the Morgott. Most likely she was originally meant to be a boss after you accepted the Frenzied Flame (or to prevent you from taking it) until they scratched it. Highly likely it'll show up in a dlc
@@CrylyteAlso, her moveset is pretty much identical to that of the black knife assassins. I thought that was an interesting detail
They would probably scale her model up to be larger and more ‘imposing’ and it could be justified as her embracing her true form or self post frenzied flame ending. Most main bosses have to be large in some sense.
@@bren4910 that would work for the theories about her being the gloam-eyed queen
@@rep1600 yea haha, wonder how big though, what’s your opinion?
Shame that there is no cutscene for her if you use the pin to avoid going insane. I would've liked to see an ending with that, even if she's mad.
Edit: typo
Yeah just finished the game hoping I get the rarest ending with all these different conditions met, but unfortunately nothing special came out of it.
did you atone for the sin at the Church of Vows? I haven't tried it yet
@@vargascarlos250 Oh shit why didn't I think of that!?
@@vargascarlos250 atoning at church of vows only bring back merchants you have killed accidentally or intentionally.
Ranni is the official waifu in this game. She has way more dialoagues and cutscenes than Melina, a whole questline, and ending dedicated to her and she personally wears the ring offered by the player character. Melina I don't know just exists so that you can level up and get the horse maybe. And she leaves the game permenantly if you don't get the frenzied flame (and infuriates her so much she leaves you forever).
I like letting melina set herself on fire, only to immediately go see the 3 fingers
“Come at me, bro.”
-Protagonist.
Honestly I wouldn’t think there’s anything wrong with this ending if the steed whistle wasn’t burned
Yeah they really had to twist the knife by saying and you killed best boy torrent. Which sucks because she says he chose you at the beginning. In a sense he's your first supporter. Boy gets done dirty.
It's really interesting that she gets her body back in this ending. Kind of like she was Queen Marika's contingency plan in case of this specific outcome.
Also it's somewhat frightening that she seems confident in her ability to combat the entity that just killed a god and burned the Erdtree to ash.
Who also delivered destined death to lords and gods? The dusk-eyed queen. Who else’s eye looks to be dusk-eyed? Melina.
I love how this is basically a sequel teaser for a game starring Melina.
Then she proceeds to walk into fire and die. After seeing her fight as a summon, I wouldn't worry too much about the Tarnished.
More like after realizing her being Messmer’s sister and most likely has something like his Based Serpent, I more worried about the Tarnished.
Especially when she seems to be able to wield Destined Death here
I'm sure the Lord of Frenzied Flame is just quaking in his boots... as he turns her world into his personal lava lamp XD
She looks at us during the scene becouse we are the outer influence that got this ending
The player is the Outer God!
I like how in Dark Souls 3, the Fire Keeper would remain loyal to you, even if you decided to let the flame die, yet in Elden Ring Melina threatens to kill you if you decide to go for any of the bad endings lmao
she only does it for this ending. this is the only ending she considers "bad"
What if you do it after she barbecues herself in the erdtree?
@@SirCrusher I means she died, what do you expect would happen?
@@SirCrusher you barbeque the world. She's already gone lmao
@@aldenmcgrath9722 She became the gloam eyed queen, Bringer of destined deaths to corrupt immortal gods
Tarnished: saves Melina from turning into a Saturday BBQ
Melina: *and* *so* *I* *took* *that* *personally*
I like to think Melina seeks out Ranni and whoever else isn't dead yet in this playthrough and is all like "I'm putting together a a team. Almost like some kind of Suicide Squad."
What are we, some kind of Elden Ring?
@@richardmartinez5040 Marika's Mightiest Heroes, type of thing
I can’t wait for the dlc for this game. This game is just amazing
I hope we get some!
*inserts another Morgott battle as if we didn't have enough in one playthrough*
@@bravoravenofpestilence1161 behold Morgorrott, the rising omen!
Sounds like she wants to throw down, I'll throw down, Rannis my maiden
"my precious"
Melina: "You tricked me!"
Tarnished: "Tricked you? No I save you"
The fact that this specific sequence causes this cutscene makes me think that this is the canon ending, which would actually be pretty sick
Like we need ANOTHER Fromsoft game about undead in a realm of fire...
I feel like the true ending is Ranni's since its the only ending that actually changes anything permanently
@@duaIism I don't think thats relevant considering what DS canon endings are (linking the fire in ds1 is pretty much canon considering ds3) i don't think thats relevant in the slightest
It's the true bad ending
I think Stars and Flame are equal in priority, in which one is a true good ending and the other is the true bad ending. This cutscene is probably for people who want to see the bad ending but also feel better about it because they know Melina is about to kill them (me)
That whistle is Torrent crying from pain while dying
The biggest crime this game did was not fleshing out Melina and the gloom eyed queen stuff
I feel like we should have gotten a Melina interaction if we used the needle to cleanse the flame after we used the flame to spare her at the forge. If you talk to shabiri before inheriting the flames and then talk to Melina at a campsite after she kind of talks up how her sacrifice is her choice and it's hers to make so I doubt she would be exactly pleased with us but still some acknowledgement that we saved her life would be nice.
Some things seem more important than ones life
i dont think she even wanted her life to be saved in the first place
Her glowing blue left eye makes her identity quite clear.
She's Sans, guys.
When I did this ending and got the cutscene I literally clapped like “yes girl come kill me it is what I deserve after all”
I puked.
@@TheStraightestWhitest good
"literally"
👏👏👏
Damn you literally clapped? That’s impressive!
They really need to add an ending where you save Melina by burning the tree with the frenzied flame,. but subdue the flame.
But we already have that right
@@conservativeman32 No. You just get sll the other endings.
Like i get this is supposed to be a cool threatening moment , but fr by this point the tarnished has killed literally every god and demi god. Melina couldnt get to the Erdtree on her own. Feels like kind of a hollow threat
"There is always a bigger fish". Also, she didn't get to the Erdtree on her own since that was not her role, but that of the Tarnished.
That’s what she gets for not fulfilling her promise to give me the Honda Accord
''THE DEPTHS OF YOUR FOOLISHNESS!''
With Sekiro and this, it's weird seeing what looks like sequel or DLC teasers in an ending; will this actually be followed up on?
That would suck if we dont get any dlc feel like theres alot to work with and expand on, hoping we get a sekiro sequel next tho
It probably will. Likely DLC for each individual ending. Although I think the only one that would matter is this one and Ranni’s as they’re the two most significant and incredibly different ones.
There have literally never made a post story dlc...
id say it wont. would be cool a spin off where u are her tahts the only way id see it happening. miyazaki wont do a dlc of teh game where u are other character. and a dlc that follow your character afther he conquer the world wont be a thing neither.
@@gokillyourselfgoogle ...........ds3 gaels dlc was post story dlc 😂
i love how she directly look into us, bcs we are the lord of the frenzied flame
Yeah, you actually feel threatend. They Did an amazing Job with this ending.
Here after the expansion annoucement and seeing the image of Miquella riding Torrent. In this ending the only thing that endured the frenzied flame is the ring/whistle used for Torrent. That's because it's made of Miquella's gold, the only thing capable of repelling it
The only thing I could think when watching this scene was "Girl, what happened to your hair?"
You set the world on fire. Her hair and clothes look blackened from burning.
Same literally my question too 😂
Damn now I definitely need a movie or something about Melina found the protagonist. This ending is just so cliff-hanging
there's something so unsettling about a once friendly face coming to kill you
Elden ring 2 needs to continue from this ending, it would be so cool if it did, if there is an elden ring 2 ofc
Personally I'd rather have a sequel named Destined Death. Not even sequel has to be "same name 2".
I feel like there will be possible DLC that touches on this.
@@mytube25988 you know nothing about how from handles dlc 😂
But how? Everything is destroyed after this ending
@@y_auc60seb20 hmm true i guess there will be no shit
"To deliver you what is yours..."
**puts on sunglasses**
"Destined Death."
*_YYYYEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!_*
_CSI Miami Theme Starts_
😂😂
Okay, this ending is badass! Way better than all the other endings imo
Ranni's ending is still the best imo. We free the souls trapped at the erdtree, disconnect the greater will from the lands between and we also go to space with best girl Ranni and fulfill her destiny. Plus it also works out quite well for Melina if the theory of the gloam eyed queen is true. What better ending is there?
@@AB-jt4rs For simps Ranni's ending is the best, yeah.
@@danielas2075 Ranni's ending is literally, the good ending by any moral standards.
@@AB-jt4rs i would say the death ending is good too since it gets rid of rebirth and the immortals can truly die, especially those afflicted by scarlet rot that are just suffering. The tree feeds off death and misery basically so making those who keep coming back and making it stronger just rest in peace isn't a bad option. It also makes it so all the outer gods that might try and take power eventually have to watch out since death can get them too.
@@j.a.r.5974 but the problem is that not everything died. Including Melina. If Melina didn't die, imagine how many other malevolent gods survived too. And worse yet, now that the lands between has effectively been put on factory reset, those gods now have a fun little sand pit to play around in, and probably create even more suffering to the beings that survived and future beings to rise
Now I want a DLC with Melina as the final boss
I want a DLC where I am the final boss!
She's literally just the grim reaper, why couldn't we get more of her
fromsoftware really missed out on a great opportunity to make this a secret boss fight
Finally beat the game after 148 hours. I thought i messed up but I'm realizing it was a cool ending.
Vengeance for Torrent✊
Poor Torrent was in pain, probably dying... and abandoned... 😢😢😢😢
Poor torrent left all alone like that
Tarnished: “I DID THIS FOR US, MELINA!”
“To deliver what is yours…”
In 30 minutes or less? Sure. Torrent is gone so good luck with double-jumping to dodge traffic.
Feels like something that could possibly become dlc or something, idk man but it's fuckin cool
I hope that when and IF the dlcs are going to come out, we are getting some variations in bosses, depending on our endings, I'd say it would be kinda cool to fight Melina after you get the Frenzied Flame ending, or some shit like that.
How do you think that would work with doing new game plus and different endings each time? Maybe goes off of first chosen ending or??
@@matthewgiliberto4163 I mean, a ng+ is a ng+, I guess you can do a certain ending, then get certain bosses in one playthrough, and then if you want different boss/bosses You would do a different ending on next ng+
I'd like to see this connected to the next game. This is probably my favorite ending.
*Watches tarnished slaughter every demigod and end the world with frenzied flame* "Yeah, I can take him."
She’s got nothing else to do tbh everything’s destroyed
I’m so sad we don’t get to see this ending go anywhere, it’s all a very vague lore setup that I just wish we could see go somewhere in some form
It’s an ending man
That's fromsoft for ya hahaha. The endings always feel like sequel bait even when they very much aren't.
(That's not a dig at fromsoft)
@@SpliffyHusk An ending that could start a great story
It's a 'feel better' ending so that players who need the 100% can be happy their waifu is gonna kill them for being evil
You're new to the Souls series aren't you? LOL
i think the frenzied flame ending wouldve triggered a secret boss fight against melina maybe its hidden somewhere in the game or they never did it but you can someone her to assist you in the fight against morgott so she can fight
To anyone that doesn't know, she is the dusk eyed queen or also referenced as the gloam eyed queen. She brings destined death to the immortals AKA the gods, that's why the godskin apostles and nobles exist and the black flames they use are the means to which they kill gods. Ranni became a doll to escape that destined death and yet she plotted for the black blades to kill Godwyn. Maliketh hunts death because he serves the Gods and thus protects the destined death so that the Gods keep living eternally. Maliketh killed the Dusk eyed queen and that's why he guards the destined death at Farum Azula
It has never been confirmed that she's the Gloam Eyed Queen.
There are two possible good paths IMO for Melina: You can either go through the story naturally, and let her sacrifice herself; she is destined to be burnt and most importantly bodyless, OR you can get rid of the frenzied flame, and keep her alive by using Miquella's needle, after using the frenzied flame to burn the tree, leaving Melina alive, but not certain if she will die anyway once the tree is burnt down.
“The worst thing the could say is no”
during mt first playthrough i only discovered the leyndell sewers after melina sacrificed herself to burn the erdtree, and thus only picked up the flame right before ending the game, so I ended up not seeing this cutscene and I was really confused when people talked about it
I watched her fight Morgot I'm not scared
She held back
"Pure madness, she seeks to take vengeance? Let her try, every angel can fall" The Lord of Frienzied Flame
I think it'd be more like
'ReeeEeeEeEE, AAAAAARGH SKREE~EEE AUGHHHH'
So there's a lot of evidence piling up that Melina may be the Gloam-eyed Queen. The first bearer of the Rune of Death, leader of the Godskin Apostles, and the original weilder of the great sword I've been using to one shot most of my foes into oblivion.
This might be a problem for our newly anointed Lord of Chaos... Or is it?
Because it's worth remembering that in the end Gloam-eyed Queen was ultimately defeated by Malekith, the very same Malekith that the we the Tarnished just defeated to get this ending. On top of having already surpassed a foe that the former Queen lost to the Tarnished has also ascended to even greater heights, having the direct patronage of one of the Outer Gods, basically becoming a god themselves.
"To deliver what is yours"
My Honda Accord?
"Destined Death"
Maidenless and Vehicleless
Elden ring starts off kind of more of happy journey as your weak and new too this world to only see it become more depressed as others around you fall on your quest
I was not surprised at all the Melina had the Death rune.
God I want this ending so bad
I feel like we got shorted an ending with this whole frenzied flame/cure flame/ save melina kind of deal but maybe if it gets enough attention maybe well see an added ending of some sort? just keeping my hopes up at this point lol
Because you were never meant to 'save Melina'. Ugh. Fromsoft doesn't want to acknowledge your type because it has something to say about fate. People always, try to skirt around consequences. That's not how they do things, at From.
@@Vespyr_ but they literally let you cure the frenzy flame there was no consequence
@@JAY-ts5ds Yes there is, you no longer get the flame of frenzy option. You are now locked into the other endings with that one behind you. As such the game proceeds with your other ambitions as if Melina had burned the tree, but she hasn't. She no longer has a direct place in your story, and has her own life to live.
@@Vespyr_ but why couldn’t we just get that closure in a secret ending or something that’s all I’m saying there’s no proof that the actions we took for that ending had any value it just seems weird that your allowed to jump through that many hoops and you still get the same prize
@@JAY-ts5ds Personally after all the effort one takes to even get marked by the Frenzied Flame, to suddenly choose to correct such a commitment to be somewhat hollow, but such is the consequence to a lack of commitment toward ones ambitions. It is, in essence, a choice. Through this you allow Melina to have her life. But the ending is about your ascent to Elden Lord. Not some girl's destiny. The only reason you even see her here is because your decision destroyed all destinies and thus your fates intertwine.
Melina: Wants to deliver me destined death
Me: BUT WHAT ABOUT MY HONDA ACCORD... YOU PROMISED.
That was the polite version for:
“I'm gonna hunt your Frenzied Ass through the hole DLC if I have to.”