People who say that his damage in earlier version was better have completely lost their mind LMAO. Wdym his damage was better? 😂 His multiplier was better, yes, but he was never meant to inflict critical damage since you won't build crit stats around him, thus wasting away those "better" multipliers and the massive 240% attack increase. Enabling him to deal DoT was definitely a buff on his part since the 240% attack buff will work perfectly in his favor and you'll just have to focus on building EHR% (which means it's a great direction). He's already a decent sub-DPS and addition in DoT team. Not to mention his ultimate and general damage buff. The only "nerf" that is worth mentioning is the fact that now he has a limit on the debuff application, but rest assure that it doesn't even matter lmao. His performance won't even change in MoC and a slight decline in PF. He is good overall, but indeed there are better choices. Y'all are victims of the "this chara is mid" doomposting agenda. Typical habit of the community and CCs who don't even know what they're talking about. Just pull for him if you like him and yes he's good. Definitely not mid and far from being bad.
Despite of the nerfs, he'll still be valuable for Acheron and allows your preservation unit to run their sig lc. Also, keeping enemies debuff through waves or bosses through their phases is useful. His personal dmg can be quite decent if well invested. I wish he didn't get all the nerfs in the beta. Hoping for buffs on his last minute changes!
@@rhadie10 he is pretty decent however ruan mei is still better in terms of buffings a DoT team since she increases almost a lot of status. So if you have her you don't really need to pull for him but if you don't I suggest you pull for him since it'll take a while for rm rerun 😅
I'll have to pick him up on his rerun, gotta pull sparkle for my DHIL, I'll try pulling his Lightcone though and put it on Guinaifen as a little mini jiao though
@@Drejkolgiving nihility unit the ability to heal would greatly affect Abundance path in the future. We already see how healers need to be semi Harmony (HuoHuo) or semi Destruction/Nihility (Gallagher) bcs being pure healers are not cutting it anymore. RIP Luocha.
Yes his supportive in term of damage is pretty lacking for a 5 star, but for character like Acheron? You guys clearly underestimating his capabilities dont you.
He's not terrible, it's just that in terms of cost/benefit, he's only a bit better than gui, and she's 4*. It's better to save and pull for others instead. He'll only be worth it if you're min/maxing Acheron team, or a whale. I wouldn't recommend him for f2p especially those who are new to the game and trying to progress, but at the end of the day the decision is solely to the player.
@@deedee3355 his damage amplification is only around 20% better than gui, and only 6% better compared to Pela (both are 4*) jiaoqiu is only better in terms of stack generation for Acheron, but this relies on his ultimate and can only give a maximum of 6 stack per ult (and only activate once per enemy). It is way better to get Acheron c2 and sparkle, than pulling for jiaoqiu. Jiaoqiu is only good if you are trying to min/max your Acheron team, his niche kit only allows him into a limited team. He's BiS in the Acheron team and average in a dot Kafka team, and you can slot him into Ratio team if you have nothing else. As I said previously, his cost-benefit isn't that great with him being 5*. And he is only good for whales/min-maxers and does not provide lots of value to the lineup especially for anyone trying to progress considering his high cost as a 5*. In short, it is better to stick with the gui and pull for sparkle instead. If you already have her, save the jade for other characters instead since they will add more value to your account. He's not worth the cost unless you got him in your first 10 pull.
I thought he’s just an upgrade version of Guinaifen and does not offer anything new that much so should is still pull for him to upgrade my Acheron E0 team?
With this, I can conclude that they ALWAYS make 5 star chara better than 4 star chara, even when the 4 star already in e6. I'm confident that this will be applied in the future too. To be noted that having e6 4 star character is harder than having e0 5 star character and it's pretty annoying
@@kigenkoshu3657 even if they're e6 it only get atlest 3/4 of 5* char potential more over why you need to suffer with low end team when you can do easier with premiun team, just compare e6 asta and e0 ruan mei there is huge gap between them
@@zaneexe6750 Firstly, because waiting for 5 star took longer than getting the 4 star where you can randomly get it on limited banner or standar banner. Secondly, especially for non whaler who can't get every character need to consider carefully which 5 star you need to gacha, for example I need to build premium fua team, but last time I just get robin and don't get topaz, building premium team is not that simple especially if you are not a whaler and your gacha sucks
lol what’s wrong with people, he was busted before, sure they’ve nerfed him a lot but he’s not bad. He’s really good just not broken anymore. No way hyv was gonna release anything close to that kind of unit that would also greatly boost the best DPS
i dont have e6 gui, just e2, and i struggle with the 3 mannequins in the currently moc, i cant even clear it in less rhan 5 cycles with s1 acheron e6 pela sw and fu xuan with market lc. they have lightning fire and physical weakness, at this point do u think its worth to get him with s1? cuz i dont even have e6 gui
@@taljeetsingh1724 Besides the speed, his dmg vulnerability is actually about on par with Ruanmei and Robin gets a bit inconsistent in Pure Fiction and doesnt apply dot.
@@real_for_real aventurine has ult debuff, and if you have sig LC, then he inflicts a debuff on his follow up ATK. However, if you're using Jiaoqiu, Fu Xuan works just as well! She can equip trend as well, and also the crit rate buff they provide is very beneficial and can help if youre low on crit rate :)
@@keoku360Enemy can get debuffed by OUR turn, ENEMY turn, and OUT OF TURN only. If the ENEMY moves (jiaoqiu) and attacks Aventurine (Market) it counts as 1 action. The enemy is moving and attacking counts as 1 thing ENEMY TURN and they can't stack
@@ClowReedx I'm not understanding? If I put Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat on Sampo, they get ensnared and wind seared. That's two debuffs, are you saying that they can only get one debuff on the enemy, but any number on ally turn?
Yes, but not by much, honestly don't even bother. It's a waste of a 5 star unless you want him for Acheron. And even then I'ma just go for sparkle cons and sig
jiaoqiu also works with other characters, hes one of the bis in ratio, great in dot, also great for ult focused units like argenti and yunli, and works as a better pela for every team
My Acheron E2S1 team is Sparkle E0S0, Aventurine E2S1, Pela E6 with Pearls S5. I will skip Jiaoqiu and go for Sparkles LC & Eidolons. And in 2.5 I hope Lingsha is an upgrade for Gallaghar in my Firefly team. Jiaoqiu is not worth the jades IMHO.
She literally isn’t. Jiaoqiu gives more stacks and a bigger damage boost. He is by no means amazing after all the nerfs but Pela is not better than him at all.
@@TerraTheWise not better but also not worth pulling for as i see these dmg with my own e2s1 acheron with pela as well. maybe hes better for e0 acheron but for e2 hes just a sidegrade
@@shinyue4548 Again. There is no “sidegrade.” He is an upgrade from Pela regardless of acherons eidolon’s. If someone doesn’t have E2 yet then yes that is worth more than Jiaoqiu
Hey everyone! 👋 I've already created an E0S0 video featuring Jiaoqiu with E0S1 Acheron! 🚀 Check out my latest video.Thanks for watching! ✨
People who say that his damage in earlier version was better have completely lost their mind LMAO. Wdym his damage was better? 😂 His multiplier was better, yes, but he was never meant to inflict critical damage since you won't build crit stats around him, thus wasting away those "better" multipliers and the massive 240% attack increase. Enabling him to deal DoT was definitely a buff on his part since the 240% attack buff will work perfectly in his favor and you'll just have to focus on building EHR% (which means it's a great direction). He's already a decent sub-DPS and addition in DoT team. Not to mention his ultimate and general damage buff.
The only "nerf" that is worth mentioning is the fact that now he has a limit on the debuff application, but rest assure that it doesn't even matter lmao. His performance won't even change in MoC and a slight decline in PF. He is good overall, but indeed there are better choices.
Y'all are victims of the "this chara is mid" doomposting agenda. Typical habit of the community and CCs who don't even know what they're talking about. Just pull for him if you like him and yes he's good. Definitely not mid and far from being bad.
Lol, lmao even
He used to heal did u know
@@annihilate_cr6018a healer who can’t heal
Straight L take.
@@annihilate_cr6018 u trust leakers too much bro lol
Despite of the nerfs, he'll still be valuable for Acheron and allows your preservation unit to run their sig lc. Also, keeping enemies debuff through waves or bosses through their phases is useful. His personal dmg can be quite decent if well invested.
I wish he didn't get all the nerfs in the beta. Hoping for buffs on his last minute changes!
I hope hoyo listens to us crying and change the nerf real quick plsplsps. We’ll have to wait in his run.
How about in kafka DoT team? Is he still good for it or the nerf really that bad?
@@rhadie10 he is pretty decent however ruan mei is still better in terms of buffings a DoT team since she increases almost a lot of status. So if you have her you don't really need to pull for him but if you don't I suggest you pull for him since it'll take a while for rm rerun 😅
@@valenzari9463the second Zhongli incident
@@AzureNeko2 I hope last minute changes. Pretty sure it has happened before? Or not 😭
That one dog that runs in at 1:08:
Ah, fuck.
I'll have to pick him up on his rerun, gotta pull sparkle for my DHIL, I'll try pulling his Lightcone though and put it on Guinaifen as a little mini jiao though
We're in the same boat 😭😭😭
Can’t wait to get jiaoqiu his animations look so good 😍😍
Jiaoqiu gives more stacks to Acheron than Guinaifen. Good. His damage is very low compared to V1 though
He does not heal anymore
He never heal at the moment he been released. Maybe it just leaker speculation since he can cook. Don't trust leaker 100%.
@@Drejkolit was never intentionally his kit in the first place anyways
@@Drejkolgiving nihility unit the ability to heal would greatly affect Abundance path in the future. We already see how healers need to be semi Harmony (HuoHuo) or semi Destruction/Nihility (Gallagher) bcs being pure healers are not cutting it anymore. RIP Luocha.
He was never a healer lmao @@Drejkol
The stack generation is incredible
that sparkle is so amazing
yeah she is cute
Yes his supportive in term of damage is pretty lacking for a 5 star, but for character like Acheron? You guys clearly underestimating his capabilities dont you.
Nah just have chars that can cover his gimmick easily while more useful buffs.
Dudes just dogshit now.
He's not terrible, it's just that in terms of cost/benefit, he's only a bit better than gui, and she's 4*. It's better to save and pull for others instead. He'll only be worth it if you're min/maxing Acheron team, or a whale. I wouldn't recommend him for f2p especially those who are new to the game and trying to progress, but at the end of the day the decision is solely to the player.
@@far_centrist sorry but today showcases clearly shows how big the gap between him and Gui.
@@deedee3355 his damage amplification is only around 20% better than gui, and only 6% better compared to Pela (both are 4*) jiaoqiu is only better in terms of stack generation for Acheron, but this relies on his ultimate and can only give a maximum of 6 stack per ult (and only activate once per enemy). It is way better to get Acheron c2 and sparkle, than pulling for jiaoqiu. Jiaoqiu is only good if you are trying to min/max your Acheron team, his niche kit only allows him into a limited team. He's BiS in the Acheron team and average in a dot Kafka team, and you can slot him into Ratio team if you have nothing else. As I said previously, his cost-benefit isn't that great with him being 5*. And he is only good for whales/min-maxers and does not provide lots of value to the lineup especially for anyone trying to progress considering his high cost as a 5*.
In short, it is better to stick with the gui and pull for sparkle instead. If you already have her, save the jade for other characters instead since they will add more value to your account. He's not worth the cost unless you got him in your first 10 pull.
Please E0 Acheron.
he doesn't have the ability to remove eidolons from his account
@@VladislavKusminit’s a private server not official he can change it
@@VladislavKusminthis isnt even his acc its private server
I was a member of the "Jiaoqiu is a must pull" club. But after Hoyo nerfed him 5 freaking times, Imma just keep farming for better characters.
they only nerfed his personal dmg bcs they included dot in his base kit, his support abilities (the actual reason ppl pull for him) havent changed
Nice vid but
1. Comparing the characters with different LC seems a lil strange
2. Better 4* support LC would be the Luka one
I thought he’s just an upgrade version of Guinaifen and does not offer anything new that much so should is still pull for him to upgrade my Acheron E0 team?
ofc he gives better vinurabilty than guinaifen, burst dmg increase, and can stack up acheron stacks so fast compared to other units
With this, I can conclude that they ALWAYS make 5 star chara better than 4 star chara, even when the 4 star already in e6. I'm confident that this will be applied in the future too. To be noted that having e6 4 star character is harder than having e0 5 star character and it's pretty annoying
here is a basic logic why do they need to make lower rarity char stronger than limited high rarity char
No, atleast make the e6 4 star and e0 5 star equal.
@@kigenkoshu3657 even if they're e6 it only get atlest 3/4 of 5* char potential more over why you need to suffer with low end team when you can do easier with premiun team, just compare e6 asta and e0 ruan mei there is huge gap between them
@@zaneexe6750 Firstly, because waiting for 5 star took longer than getting the 4 star where you can randomly get it on limited banner or standar banner. Secondly, especially for non whaler who can't get every character need to consider carefully which 5 star you need to gacha, for example I need to build premium fua team, but last time I just get robin and don't get topaz, building premium team is not that simple especially if you are not a whaler and your gacha sucks
lol what’s wrong with people, he was busted before, sure they’ve nerfed him a lot but he’s not bad. He’s really good just not broken anymore. No way hyv was gonna release anything close to that kind of unit that would also greatly boost the best DPS
He shouldve been broken... thats the issue, why not make him broken for debuff teams? Barely anyonr uses debuff teams anyways if it wasnt for acheron
then why in hell they buffed jinglui? community was mad and they buffed her, why then this guy gets nerfed 5 times.
i dont have e6 gui, just e2, and i struggle with the 3 mannequins in the currently moc, i cant even clear it in less rhan 5 cycles with s1 acheron e6 pela sw and fu xuan with market lc. they have lightning fire and physical weakness, at this point do u think its worth to get him with s1? cuz i dont even have e6 gui
get him, hes better than pela, gui or sw for acheron
@@literallyjiaoqiujioqiu e0 or Gui e1, which better?
Trully 10% better than gunaifen
lol
in terms of damage yeah, he gets more stacks in pure fiction at least.
yall really believe everything they saw
😂
@@moyimornah we can just read and do basic math.
He basically powercrept Guinaifen at this point
Increase Dmg received debuff ✅
Fire Dot ✅
If by powercrept you mean barely stronger then yeah. Lol
@@Kspice9000his vulnerability is a LOT higher than hers, and it stacks more too
Can you test both teams in MoC12 too??
But what about E6 Guinaifan?
Does he have any other utility other than in Acheron teams?
Dot teams
@@user-nr6pd2yy9jIsn't Ruan mei or Robin better than him in dot?
@@taljeetsingh1724 very much, if you have either of those use them , but he can still work on dot teams
@@taljeetsingh1724
Besides the speed, his dmg vulnerability is actually about on par with Ruanmei and Robin gets a bit inconsistent in Pure Fiction and doesnt apply dot.
no
Is aventurine better in this acheron e2 team rather than fu xuan?
Aventurine can equip the Trend of the Universal Market to provide more debuffs to activate Acheron's Ultimate
Also crit DMG buff is nice!
Thanks
@@real_for_real aventurine has ult debuff, and if you have sig LC, then he inflicts a debuff on his follow up ATK. However, if you're using Jiaoqiu, Fu Xuan works just as well! She can equip trend as well, and also the crit rate buff they provide is very beneficial and can help if youre low on crit rate :)
@@pally3370 you really just said that fu xuan can use trend? What are you even thinking about?
@@pally3370acheron caps on 1 stack per action except when acheron uses her skill and has s1.
Trend and jiaoque do not stack.
how can people play these characters already? is there an advance server or something?
Yeah there is a beta server for people to try out the beta versions of the characters before they hit the live server
They buff him?
You can't use trend of market and jiaoqiu sadly
Why not?
@@keoku360 same enemy turn
@@ClowReedx I don't understand they can't get two DoTs in one turn?
@@keoku360Enemy can get debuffed by OUR turn, ENEMY turn, and OUT OF TURN only. If the ENEMY moves (jiaoqiu) and attacks Aventurine (Market) it counts as 1 action. The enemy is moving and attacking counts as 1 thing ENEMY TURN and they can't stack
@@ClowReedx I'm not understanding? If I put Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat on Sampo, they get ensnared and wind seared. That's two debuffs, are you saying that they can only get one debuff on the enemy, but any number on ally turn?
E0S0 next
is he good with dr ratio?/gq
amazing, prob one of his bis, jiaoqiu at e0 is as good as topaz e1s1 in ratio team
EOE1 JQ with pela vs gui and Pela with gepard with trend LC next pls.(Acheron E0E1)
Is he better than Pela in Ratio teams?
He places more debuffs frequently so...
Yes, but not by much, honestly don't even bother. It's a waste of a 5 star unless you want him for Acheron. And even then I'ma just go for sparkle cons and sig
yes, a lot better
Sadly Running him next to Sparkle Means I'll be skipping him for our Wingman.
Its not bad at all but in pf i can do it just fine with my e6 serval so this unit is probs for acheron simp who want to use her in both content
jiaoqiu also works with other characters, hes one of the bis in ratio, great in dot, also great for ult focused units like argenti and yunli, and works as a better pela for every team
My Acheron E2S1 team is Sparkle E0S0, Aventurine E2S1, Pela E6 with Pearls S5.
I will skip Jiaoqiu and go for Sparkles LC & Eidolons.
And in 2.5 I hope Lingsha is an upgrade for Gallaghar in my Firefly team.
Jiaoqiu is not worth the jades IMHO.
I was so excited for Jiaoqiu then they did this, now Im pretty sure that Id rather go for E2 Sparkle then save the rest for Feixiao and Moze
Same. Dudes utter dogshit now. Might as well just get eids for aventurine
with S5 GNSW he is the same as guinaifen...
Real how did u know that?
he needs a lc with high EHR and that gives none
Unless you have Acheron. He really isn't that much of an Upgrade.
Even if you have acheron, he's not much of a upgrade.
@@Kspice9000 yeah he is for debuff teams, that's like saying unless you have dr.ratio, topaz isnt much of an upgrade
I was so ready to pull but as f2p I cannot aford such a weak supp
are u blind or did u not even watching this video kid? lmao
Tbh bros f this i pull for Sparkle 😂😂😂
He is not worth it c6 pela is better 😂
Diff uses and utility you cant compare 40% def break VS % damag
She literally isn’t. Jiaoqiu gives more stacks and a bigger damage boost. He is by no means amazing after all the nerfs but Pela is not better than him at all.
@@TerraTheWise not better but also not worth pulling for as i see these dmg with my own e2s1 acheron with pela as well. maybe hes better for e0 acheron but for e2 hes just a sidegrade
Pela E4 and E6 is not even useful for Acheron
@@shinyue4548 Again. There is no “sidegrade.” He is an upgrade from Pela regardless of acherons eidolon’s. If someone doesn’t have E2 yet then yes that is worth more than Jiaoqiu
if only he didnot have limited debuff stacks i would pull for him but with this, nah thats bullshit