Time for a Truck change / FORD Made In U.S.A. / Truck Camper Life
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- We just couldn't help ourselves. We did miss all the extra storage we had with our Ram 4500 with the skirted flatbed that we had last year so we decided to keep our eyes out for another similar truck. We found this 2020 Ford F450 Cab & Chassis truck with a CM skirted flatbed that only had 21,000 miles on it. We got a good deal on it so we traded in our 2022 Ford F350 on it. It gives us a lot more storage and a higher GVWR. Check out the video for more details.
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►2023 Northern Lite 10-2 EX SE Dry Bath, We bought it in June 2023.
►2020 Lance 1172 - We purchased from Southland RV in Atlanta, GA - July 2022 before our 3 week trip out west. Sold it in June 2023.
►2020 Bigfoot 10.4 Truck Camper - We got our 2020 Bigfoot 10.4 Truck Camper in October 2021. We were contacted by a couple of subscribers (now good friends) who had theirs up for sale in Upstate New York so we headed out on an adventure. We sold our 2014 Bigfoot 10.4 within one day of listing it online.
►2014 Bigfoot 10.4 Truck Camper - We got our 2014 Bigfoot 10.4 in August 2021 from RVOne near Charlotte, NC. Todd was headed to buy a brand new Bigfoot 10.4 just before we got the Lance 975 but when he got to Southland RV, it was sold. That's when we decided to go to the Lance 975. We knew at some point in the future we'd have a Bigfoot again and here it is.
►2021 Lance 975 - We got our new 2021 Lance 975 from Chattanooga Fish n Fun in Hixson, TN in August 2020. After looking at several models, we decided on the Lance 975 (Check out Brad's channel from Chattanooga Fish n Fun, he gives great, thorough overviews of some really nice boats and campers.) We sold the Lance 975 in August 2021.
►2019 Northern Lite 10-2 Truck Camper - Bought and delivered from Mountain Motors in Troy, MO on 12/2019 and sold it in 01/2020.
►2005 Northern Lite 10-2 Truck Camper - Picked up on 8/10/2019 we did major repairs, maintenance and renovations to this one and sold it in 12/2019.
2008 Bigfoot 21RB - Sold 12/2019, we went across country to purchase from a dealer in Pueblo Colorado.
►2006 Casita Spirit Deluxe - Sold 07/2018 when we bought our Bigfoot.
►2002 A-liner - Sold 05/2017 when bought our 2006 Casita Spirit Deluxe. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Don't apologies for being crazy, If we could, we would like to be just as crazy as you guys. I think most of us viewers like to see the different variations you have come up with and put together.
We learn a lot at your expense $$$$$ what we would like for ourselves in the quest to find the perfect outfit. Like they say if you got it, flaunt it, besides give the economy a shot in the arm if you can. You can't take all this money with us. There are no U-Haul's behind the hearse. Don't stop searching for the perfect Truck and Camper. Thank You kindly!
I’ve switched truck manufacturers many times. Once I stepped out of the whole “brand loyalty” mantra. I’ve had a gmc with the L5P Duramax which was a great driving truck ifs made it smooth. I’ve had 2 powerstroke which were really just the most well rounded of the bunch. And now on a 23 Ram 3500 which really shines with the Cummins and Aisin.
We installed a oughton RV Air Conditioner 15K Quiet AC Unit with Heat Pump, Remote Control RP-AC3800-W-KT about two years ago. It was lower profile. Can’t tell you how impressed we are with this unit. Yes expensive but the interior noise difference is significant and we have used the heat pump portion of the AC in 20 degree weather with no problems. Bought ours at RecPro
I see an F450 with heated seats in your future. "Happy Wife, Happy Life"
Moving on up 😂
You've done and done it now, you'll love the FORD POWERSTROKE
Very nice y’all glad y’all are happy but I wonder if Carla is going to eligible for the most understanding wife award Lol
You can always add heated seats.👍🌹
Congratulations! Nice setup. Looking forward to future videos featuring your truck and camper. Safe travels.
Love the new rig! Can't wait for more details on how it handles, axle ratio, mpgs, etc. Safe travels!!
Imagine if those side rails were hinged and flipped down to make side tables? Huh.
The 450 definitely has a tighter turning circle…very nice truck.
I have to agree that air conditioner on the northern lite is ungodly loud. If one person is at the stove and one person is in the bunk you can not hear each other with the air running.
Ease of loading and unloading make this a no-brainer! This truck will hold it's value for many years.
Glad to see a channel that actually takes time to include safety as a priority to building a setup. First channel I have seen in along time that has actually taken their rig across a scale or even run it up or down a hill fully loaded. It's easy to pull something but totally different trying to stop it. 👍👍👍👍👍🍻
I can say with out a doubt it is much easer to load a camper on a flat bed than a conventional pick up truck. I am still struggling with that operation. 😁
another great VOD with more great info... Ty. 👍👍
The flat bed is hard to beat with a truck camper
Thanks for the video
My 2022 F350 SRW 7.3 gas XLT is great. It has power folding mirrors and I can’t live without them now. Also I would hate not having that punch key entry pad. That thing is absolutely awesome.
They'll be switching campers soon. WATCH! You heard it heard it here first. Nahhhhh, that's a good camper without much storage but good. Ohhhhh the 450 Ford defiantly has a better turning radius that my 350 Dodge.
You're not kidding about the noise of the NL A/C unit, it's extreme!
I like the new rig! Having the storage on the CM truck bed would be really nice. We bought a new 2020 F-350 dually Power Stroke hauling a 2021 Lance 1172. The truck now has 49,000 miles on it and we’ve been very pleased. Back in the summer we took a month long, 5,800 mile, trip from north Texas to the west coast and the truck did really well. We have no complaints at all. We hope you guys enjoy yours as much as we have ours.
Hopefully the DEF doesn't give you grief like they do in Semi-trucks. Travel safely.
Great upgrade 👍🏻👍🏻
I just got my first Ford and first power stroke about 3 months ago, I love the pulling power and the airy cab, seats and visibility.
I have a SRW 2023 XLT and have heated seats so that’s a bonus as I live in Canada
Great set up now. So much easier loading with flatbed too. Diesel exhaust brake on the hills sure comes in handy. I bought new 2024 Ram 3500 in market for a new NL 8’11 again now. The 24 Rams so have power folding and extending mirrors btw, long time in the making. Take care guys.
Beautiful rig, no doubt about it 👍👍
I love that rig!! Perfect set up!!!
Changes are amazing, all I can do is smile and chuckle. Keeps you busy swapping parts around.
Hello again. From what I remember with the previous Ram / flatbed setup you had, finding good and reasonable insurance rates became an issue. I’m curious how you remedied this issue for the new truck. As we are also in the market for a (not too distant now) future truck camper setup, we have been watching your channel very closely. When you did the last flatbed we decided to get the same setup too until you came across the insurance issue. Seeing your video, I contacted my insurance company and discovered the same problem and if I remember correctly they actually wouldn’t have covered the chassis cab at all. We slammed the brakes and changed direction going the Ford F-350 Lariat with the 7.3 Godzilla route. Actually, the “affectionately named Big Bubba truck” is on order (2024 F-350 dually Lariat ultimate package in white & the 7.3 Godzilla) and is scheduled to be built in the next few days. We are planning to do most of the modifications you guys did with your F-350 so it will be able to handle our dream camper, the Lance 1172. As soon as we get the truck setup it’s “camper shopping” time.
Thank you sooooo much for all of the valuable information you provide in the videos, although you guys do make me dizzy with all of the changes. 😊
Thanks for watching our video and your nice comments. You are correct the insurance does cost more with our Ford F450 cab chassis truck than it did with our F350. I shopped around to about 10 different insurance companies with mixed results. I ended up using the same insurance company I did with our ram 4500 and that is Safeco insurance. I went directly to their website and contacted them and they were the cheapest that I found. I hope that helps, thanks again and safe travels.
How much more is the insurance on your new truck vs the last one?@@RunawayRoses
If it is a new 450 or 550 register as a RV and it’s cheap insurance that’s the trick . And all states are not the same so check your state before you try this.
LOL! Just read the thumb nail, haven’t seen the video and I know your changing your shorts again! Can’t wait to watch!
Awesome! Good luck & God Bless.
Very nice!
Great set up guys, I’ve got Ram 5500 limited does have power mirrors, one thing I did was put a full Kelderman air rod on mine love it! Kelderman system will work for your garage situation
Beautiful truck. Congratulations and enjoy.
Sweet truck. Love the F450's!
Congratulations on your new truck
Love the new rig and camper setup.
I was telling my wife when I saw the video title, I said hun they're crazy! LOL. We have a 2020 Northern Lite 10.2 LE and couldn't stand the noise the A/C made either so I swapped it out with the RecPro and it's a night and day difference, worth every penny!
The county treasurer loves you guys!
Hi Guys, Look into the Dometic 12 volt ultra low profile A/C (RTX2000) to reduce that A/C height. Also that rear roof vent cover is quite large, look at the low profile MaxxFan Deluxe, the cover lowers when not in use. Just a couple of ideas to reduce the roof clearance for the ultimate RV garage you guys have. All looking good, stick with what works best. Cheers.
Thanks for the tips. I’ll look into the Dometic 12 V AC. I did figure I would have to swap out to a maxxair fan deluxe if we change the air conditioner but we’ll see. Thanks for watching!
Having a Ford is great !
Replaced the bathroom faucet on my 10-2 have a trick to make it really easy
Build a dolly trailer and use one of those dolly battery/gas maneuvers to put the camper in the garage. I think harbor freight might have a base trailer to start you with.
Very nice Todd , yeah ram has been lagging with those irritating non power telescoping mirrors. They finally got it together and on my new 2024 Ram duelly, they now have the power folding and telescoping.
Bout time for sure. Take care.
I hear the new Trauma air conditioner is the bomb!
Best looking trucks out there, that camper looks super sharp on it, made to fit.
Man I love your truck and I just love hearing that power stroke run and I don’t think y’all will want to change again anytime soon . Enjoy to the fullest.
You have a nice set up. Please do a video comparing before & after you get the new Houghton A/C. And if you do the install please do a video of that too showing how to get the old one out & new one in. I agree that the Dometic A/Cs are horribly loud - both inside and outside. I would love a new one if it's truly quiet.
Nice truck keep the video coming, I have a 2023 Northern lite to the AC is very loud.I will be watching to see if you change it.
Well it looks cool lol
You guys could write a book on truck and camper setups
Congratulations! Sometimes it's takes a few (trucks and campers) to find the right one. This is THE rig I wanted and couldn't locate. We settled on a nice 16 Denali 1 Ton dually Duramax which is very capable hauling our NL 10.2
Happy for you! Welcome to the dark side of the dark side! I like my 6.7. Now come to Oregon dang it!
That’s one of Fords better diesel motor .
Flat bed life here too
Truck looks good i have a Lance 1172 and would like to have a Ford F600 at this time i have a ram 3500. i would not get a super c camper because if you have an engine problem on the diesel truck the cab needs to be lifted off the frame to remove the engine and if you cannot remove the camper, you cannot lift the cab. plus, i am a truck camper guy i like to remove the camper and use the truck and i could not launch my fishing boat with a super c. i understand the problems you are going through keep rolling.
Congrats on your new truck. I can't believe it was almost the same price as the 7.3 that you traded in! You got a smokin' deal!! However, I am disappointed you don't have the 7.3 gas anymore -- I wanted to buy it! I just found your channel last night; and I have been looking into the Godzilla for the past few weeks, and yours had exactly the colors and features I had built out on-line.
I subscribed to your channel today, and look forward to reviewing all past videos on the Godzilla, future videos on the F450, as well as the Northern Lite (which is also on my list for a future camper).
Ha, you guys are so entertaining. F450 love it just worried about payload with the truck package I wanted in a lariat, no sunroof of course.
Like I mentioned in comment to one of your videos about a year ago, I dislike that dometic a/c as well. I have a NL 10-2. I’d love to change out that ac. Can’t wait to see what you guys do next. We’ll be cruising through GA southbound from Michigan after Xmas….we will wave if we see ya or even if we don’t see ya. 😊 F350, 10-2 NL flat-towing a Willys.
Like the new truck
Hope you do a install video on the a/c
I’m thinking of doing the same a/c unit on my 10-2 Northern LIte
21K miles is barely breaking that truck in. Wowed! Great buy! I think the F-450 has better payload, not sure about Diesel 6.7l. than the 350 gas.
I'll be really curious to hear your opinion of the 7.3 vs. Power Stroke after some time. I love my deisel compared to my 6.0 gas. But the 7.3 is a monster. I know you will give us an update of power and fuel economy. I love the skirted flatbed. That will be an upgrade I'll do when my bed rusts out. I think all that storage would be amazing. Thanks for the video.
*A Margerita is now the bev. of choice.*
Hope you enjoy another “Found On Road Dead” Truck.
The transmission in the Fords with a diesel on the F350’s and up don’t hold up. That’s why I’ve got a GMC DENALI 3500 HD with a #1 in class Allison Transmission! It’s the best in class transmission for any truck on the market. Had 2 Ford’s in the past and will never waste my money on another again. Good Luck my friends!!
Make double sure you put the def fluid in the right tank or it will cost you 20 grand to replace the intire fuel system .
You can also let some air out of your tires….drive out n air them back up!
Jack up the garage!
Looks to be a great combo. BTW we almost purchased your specific Northern Lite. We live in Lilburn and have had an older Lance for the 14 years. We're planning to get 10-2, but discovered our 2019 crew cab, 4wd, diesel 3500 srw truck was considerably short on load capacity. So just purchased new 21 foot fifth wheel. Not as compact as TC, but quite short. Fiberglass clamshell, and make in Canada (like the Northern Lite / Bigfoot). It is an Escape 5.0. Really like it so far.
Congrats on your Escape 5.0 those are super nice campers. We’ve been in them several times and really like the layout and they seem very roomy for the size. Thanks for watching and safe travels!
Thanks. Have been watching your channel for a long time and have found it to be informative and entertaining. Perhaps at some point can meetup.
Ford has the best visibility of all the brands Ford also has best over hood visibility no stupid raised hoods with cheesy fake hood scoops or dumb power bulges that serve no purpose.
Hi my name is Stuart. I am in Naples Florida. I'm using my wife's TH-cam channel. I have owned three Arctic fox products. All of them were over 5700 lb loaded. You do not need that much of a truck for a 4200 lb Northern light. Although it's a beautiful camper, absolutely, I think it's just overkill. I'm literally at 15,640 total weight with my camper and with my truck. I have a 2022 ram 3500 crew cab, long bed dually, icing transmission, high output. You cannot match the exhaust brake that's on the Cummins. I barely use the brakes. The exhaust brake does all the work and I ride around in tow haul and with the exhaust brake on max. Always just just my my deal. You guys enjoy. Keep keep you still need to get an Arctic fox or at least try one. I have an 11:40 with 600 Watts of solar on the top and loaded it weighs 5,900 lb if you guys ever come down to Florida look me up. And if you're ever on the Arctic Fox or the northern light groups on Facebook I'm on almost every group. But yeah I love the Northern light. I really do. I should have bought one. I had the chance I've owned three Arctic foxes and I have currently an audit Fox 1140 and a adventure 910 dry bath with the king bed and the monster u-shaped diner dinette and I like that one too but it's got to be sold😮😮😮😮😮
Hi Stewart, thanks for the comment. We may not need this much truck for our northern lite, but I’d rather have too much truck than not enough. But still once you add all the extra personal belongings, tools, etc. the weigh gets pretty heavy. We have looked at arctic fox campers, and they are very nice. But the problem is they are very tall and they’re extra height won’t work for us, because we are limited by our garage height. Thanks for watching and safe travels!
@@RunawayRoses Yes, so you are correct. The Northern light is definitely a lower roof camper. Yes I believe my Arctic fox on my ram 3500 2022 long bed 4x4 crew cab icing equipped truck is I believe 12 ft 9. Maybe 12:10 12'10???????
Love my truck, always a diesel. Need flatbed. Add on? Need more storage.
I wish Bigfoot would come in flat bed model .
Iam the same way the white trucks are cooler and don’t show dirt as bad as other colors.
That’s the only way to go is 4500 or 5500 with lots of pay load left over .
Could you take some air out of your rear tires and get it to squat just enough to unload in the garage? Obviously air back up for travel
Do the Houghton . We did it on our 10-2 so much quieter.
So did I.
Can I ask what you paid to have installed including the unit? I just picked up a Bigfoot 25RQ and my wife wants to swap out the lousy Dominic. Thanks!
@@Josh-yh5nc I did it myself in the backyard, very simple plug and play, no mods needed. It was $1100 on Amazon with tax, free shipping. Worth every penny!
That’s a beautiful truck and camper set up. I personally think a truck camper looks better on a flatbed. I love the looks of the Ford F450’s and 550’s. Just not a fan of the Powerstroke since Ford started making them themselves. The original 7.3 Powerstroke made by International was a beast and best in my opinion.
6.0 Was made by International & so was the gap-bridger motor (first one using DEF) before they introduced the 7.3. The 6.0 has great reputation in everything but Ford pickups. UPS for instance, used them in their fleet for eons with little/no problems... but Ford's hand didn't touch any of those.
Have you looked at the stable load boxes that will integrate with your CM bed?
Get a 12 volt AC unit.
Hi guys, congrats on the new rig, can't keep up with you two. I am looking to get either an f350 or 450 cab chassis and put a flat bed on it. For me, it comes down to rough ride with the 19.5 14-ply tires on 450, no tpms but better turning radius . If it was between 350 and 450, which would you get.../ as long as you didn't need the extra payload of the 450. thanks
F350 has a higher payload than the f450. F450 has higher tow rating
are you guys going to attend the Truck Camper Adventure Rally in Quartzsite Arizona this coming February? There were 350 truck campers there last year and I believe they are expecting 5020 this year. Several TH-camrs
500 not 5020.... ooops
Thanks for asking, but we won’t be making it out there next year. It’s just too far for us to go because we still have full-time jobs. Thanks for watching!
Could you have taken the bed off the f350 and made it into a flatbed?
I'm guessing it has the dual fuel tanks. How much range did you gain?
Maybe time to make an AC size relief in the garage ceiling?
How about a flatbed camper design?
Did you guys find cheaper insurance? I remember that was a factor with the Ram C&C
Might be able to create a cutout in the garage ceiling for clearance. What’s the total height with the camper compared to the 350?
I have the same camper but I just lemon lawed my 2022 Ford f450 due to the front end not wanting to track straight on uneven pavement. I have read this was corrected on the 2023 models but was wondering if your truck has that problem. I am back using my 2015 Ram dually but am probably going to order a 2024 f450 since the cab and steering are so much nicer than the Ram 3500. IMO the perfect truck would be the benefits of the Ford with the exhaust brake of the Cummins. I also was very surprised that the Ford got around 1mpg better than the Ram. What say you?
I haven’t noticed the truck not tracking straight so far but I’ll keep an eye on it. Thanks for let me know about the issue. Thanks for watching!
Is it a F-450 chassis body , or a F-450 pickup truck body , I heard that the chassis body trucks have a beefed up frame for bigger loads, like for tow truck , dump truck and heavier loads for work trucks, where the F-450 pickup trucks have a chassis like the F-350
pickup trucks.
Yes, it’s a F450 cab and chassis truck with a 16,500 GVWR. Thanks for watching!
Todd what have you figured out for a hitch extension for the cm bed to get out past the camper ? I have been looking for a 60 inch extension to get past our rear patio and I am at a loss as what to do . Any suggestions ?
Nice set up! What GVWR does the 450 have?
16,500 gvwr, thanks for watching!
Great review! If you don’t mind me asking and if I didn’t see it to begin with what is your payload capacity on this new truck?
16,500 lb GVWR, Thanks for watching!
Ford website says 14000. How did you get 16500?
@RunawayRoses oh, ok, found it, yep 16.5k. And 19.5k for the f550
@@user-dq3jk9py4q he has the chassis cab.
Are you done trading? I am waiting on a 24 CC F450 to be delivered. We're wanting to get
a Northern Lite 10.2. This will be our first truck camper, and I'm concerned about about being overweight when all is loaded. Predicting the payload near 5000#. It'll be just my wife and I and our lab, and a small motorcycle on a front hitch. That skirted flatbed you have on that truck sure seems like the way to go.
With the F450 CC and a gvwr of 16,500 like I have you should be in good shape if you are getting a NL 10-2. We need to weigh our setup but I’m pretty sure we are around 15K fully loaded. We’ll be weighing it soon. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
I should have said F450 CCLB. Will have a 14,000 GVWR
If it’s a F450 pick up, it will have a 14 GVWR but if it’s an F450 cab chassis it will have a 16,500 GWVR. So if you’re getting an F450 pick up it is possible you could exceed the 14,000 pound rating.
Why do you guys buy so many new campers and trucks all the time? Serious question.
Question about upper stable load. Do they effect your ride when you don’t have camper on truck?
No they didn’t because they didn’t touch the overload spring until there was weight on the truck. But they could effect it some if they do. Thanks for watching!
What is the difference in GVWR between your F350 and the F450 chassis cab? Also, did you have to cut down your Happy Jacks or do they make them in the shorter length?
The gvwr on my F450 CC is 16,500 lbs. I actually added 6 inch extensions to the bottom of the Happijac’s because the bed height is taller with the flatbed. Thanks for watching!
Is the flat bed a 9'4"x94"x60"x34" ?
Thank you
GVW is 14,000 right?
At 9,600 empty and 3,500lbs 10-2, are you not risking exceeding the 14k GVW?
I would be interested in seeing the weight when you are all loaded for camping….
It is a F450 cab and chassis truck with a 16,500 GVWR. The F450 pickup trucks only have a 14,000 GVWR. Thanks for watching!
I believe ford can and chassis trucks are pretty detuned unfortunately
I thought the last time you switched from RAM 4500 to Ford 3500 was the insurance was too expensive. Did you get better insurance rate on this Ford F450??
We didn’t change to the F350 because the insurance was cheaper. That was just a nice benefit of the F350. The insurance for our F450 is more expensive like on our Ram 4500. I just prefer a cab chassis truck with a flatbed which gives us extra storage. Thanks for watching!
😀What's your next truck?
What is your loaded weight ?
Do you actually go camping or just buy stuff to keep from being bored with each other?
Does Northern lite make a flatbed version?
No they don’t. Thanks for watching!