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You know how old tom holland is and how old spiderman is? The actors go for the age they look most of the time, but peter parker is 17, 14 when he entered the mcu
Kind of a meta clue to Lillia's importance, but that her trial looks to be last also underscores that her character is key to a bigger narrative. Also, Patti LuPone didn't roll up into a Marvel show for a cameo-level part. 😄
You know, with the Darkhold destroyed in every dimension that would mean there's a lot of pissed of magic users who previously had the Darkhold who has no idea what happened but possibly tracking it back to 616.
12:18 EXACTLY. She had the Darkhold from episode 9 of Wandavision. No matter what happened to her, even if she had her sons and family back, she would have still been corrupted. And as you point out, that corruption could have also affected Billy. So, it would have been a mess.
The Sigil only hides William/Billy, Agatha would still be searching for Tommy if she could see Billy. I think the Sigil was put in place to protect Billy from witches for breaking the rules. It also makes Lilia forget William's tragic death.
What if Billy needed to be hidden because he's the only twin who actually got into a new body and Tommy is still body-less? Maybe Vision will make Tokyo ea synthesoid body, just like his own
Dude - you’re missing the easiest detail on the tower reverse card. On the side billy is falling, his “Scarlett” crown is in place of the regular crown. And on the side Tommy is falling, a lightning bolt is there is reference to him being as fast as lightning / I.e speed. And the “flames, on top are orange and yellow, but the “flames” in the middle of the tower are Scarlett.
The tower reversed might mean that Billy and Tommy were not falling, but they were rising into prominence. The tower was Wanda's ascendence, and Wanda instead fell. In other words, "reversed" means held upside down.
When you lay out cards in tarot “reversed” means it was placed with the image upside down It changes the meaning of the card- in this case The tower reversed means a reluctance to change and let go of the past
I think you are confusing Nexus beings with Anchor beings, and that is causing additional confusion... Deadpool and Wolverine states that an anchor being is a being that anchors their entire reality. If they die, their reality slowly begins to dissolve (this is a meta reference to the fact that Hugh Jackman was basically carrying the Xmen universe and without him, interest in that franchise was waning). They are unique to their universe, and you can't simply take a similar being from another universe and slot them into place and think it will fix everything. Once they are gone, that is it. The only candidate I can think of that could qualify as an Anchor being in the 616 universe, is RDJs Tony Stark/Iron Man. The MCU has certainly dropped off after Endgame, but whether the MCU is truly dying is a matter of opinion at this point and only time will tell if it means anything in the end. The Deadpool and Wolverine movie also gives the case where a universe can be saved if something significant happens. Perhaps Deadpool and/or Wolverine became the new Anchor being for that universe. We don't know yet. Meanwhile, Doctor Strange 2 details that Nexus beings are unique beings throughout the multiverse - that is there is only one of them in the entire multiverse. So while The Scarlet Witch - a Nexus being - is dead, Wanda Maximoff - of which there are an infinite number of - is not. Likewise, unlike an anchor being, The Scarlet Witch is dead, but the 616 universe isn't dying. IF Billy is a Nexus being, that would only suggest that this version of him is unique throughout the multiverse, but other than him being a creation of Wanda and soul-slipping into someone else's body... we don't know what would actually make him unique (we have no idea where all of the other Billys in all of the other universes come from, after all). Doctor Strange 2 also gives us another precedent, which we will have to see what becomes of it, but it insinuates that if a Nexus Being - OR object! - is destroyed, it destroys all variations of that object is other universes, such as when the original Darkhold is destroyed, it also destroyed all of the other copies in all other universes. However, we don't know if that is because Wanda destroyed the original, or if she used a spell/her magic to make its destruction echo throughout the multiverse.
You lost me at the Darkhold. It is not a Nexus entity because, as you correctly explained, Nexus entities are unique. So how could destroying a Nexus entity destroy all variations when they don't have variations? No, Wanda did that to the Darkhold; it wasn't some law of nature. She actively destroyed them all.
@@artmusichair there are few mutants now but like in the comics how not all the mutants were wiped out it would be a reverse where a mass amount of mutants would be made.
At some point in this video it occurred to me that Teen and 3 years later Billy has been wearing a Black Heart earring in his left ear the whole series. In some scenes it's less clear and sort of looks like a triangle, but it also adds a rather sweet reference to the fact that Eddie calls Billy his black heart. 🖤
No click bait here just solid theories. Doom being introduced is a definite sign that Wanda could be coming back via the Children's Crusade storyline. Great work Ryan, you da bomb 😎👍
Im really liking the ideas in this video. I think its quite possible that Visionquest will feature Billy Maximoff prominently, and that the show will be about putting together young avengers AND finding out what happened to Wanda, only for the story to culminate in Wandas future (and hopeful redemption arc) in the upcoming Doomsday and Secret wars movies. This seems like the most likely scenario, as the story really makes sense on many levels. I can totally see the pieces falling into place to form the next infinity war saga... ! It could be that Lilia's act of placing a sigil on Billy sets all of this off. That is one of the puzzling things we still dont understand about Agatha series, and we now can't know for sure, since Lilia is dead. (I still want to know how was Agatha able to crawl out of the swamp when Lilia and Jennifer couldn't...) And what are the chances that Miles Gutierrez-Riley's character Eddie, Billy's boyfriend, will turn out to be a skrull and Hulkling? :D (probably not likely..) Also whoever wrote the script for Agatha All Along is a genius. There is just so much going on and so many hints and loose threads.
The Void will 100% be the stand-in for Battleworld in Secret Wars. This was the best episode so far. I wasn't really all that hyped for this show, I thought it unnecessary filler content, but I was wrong, it's pretty good and I'm enjoying it more every week.
Lillia was doing what his mother should have done, protecting him! Also, Wanda couldn't find Tommy, So Wanda's a loser. Maybe Wanda shouldn't have abandoned them in the first place?
@@stationarywanderer7910tbf, Wanda only knows magic from the darkhold and Wanda had no choice but to free Westview. It was already fcked up when she unintentionally tied her family into the hex.
10:09 Tower reversed is also interpreted as "avoiding disaster" this would fit with your theory that Lilia needed to cast the sigil to hide hide Billy. Interesting 12:19
9:57 all cards meaning changes slightly when “reversed” (they are placed upside down) the tower reversed means reluctance to change, holding on to the past.
I get it now, because of the events of MOM that are already established (considering it is not supposed to be the story line, michael waldron fucked it up) Wanda becoming mad in search for her child, they have to make it more sense on this series (AAA) to make it align with the story as well as the Future films. It's brilliant actually how Jac Schaeffer came up with this. So here's my complete understanding after watching this and it makes more sense. Wanda's prophecy based on the darkhold is to destroy the world. Before the hex (red bubble) has reduced, Lilia might have foreseen the future where Billy inhabits a new body and Wanda sensed it and was able to regain Billy, or both kids. Knowing she still has the dark hold studying it, it will corrupt her alongside Billy, this will fill the prophecy of destroying the world. Lilia made an action (a freewill) of placing a sigil to hide Billy from Wanda that's why the course of action in MOM happened. Now, what happened in MOM is important because she was able to destroy the darkhold in multiversal level so no one will be tempted again like Wanda and Strange. Remember the darkhold prophesied Wanda to destroy the world, it didn't happen in MOM because Wanda's goal is stronger than the prophecy, she wanted her children over ruling. Lilia's freewill actually saved the world from Wanda's prophecy, Lilias action is necessary to destroy the darkhold and so the future Marvel movies could happen (Doomsday, and Avengers movies).
I love when he briefly explains the theory in the beginning and I think "that's a reach" and then he proceeds to open my eyes to the matrix and blow my mind.
Even if she did place the sigil on Billy, Wanda would have been able to sense Tommy’s presence like Billy did. I don’t think the MoM theory makes sense
I think wanda did, the scream wanda heard at the end of wanda vision was probably Tommy's voice, that's what makes her to go find her kids. Like what Billy said on episode 6, he can sense Tommy, but don't know and can't find where Tommy is, that's why is on the road.
wanda had been convinced that they died when the hex came down because agatha told wanda that her family was "tied to her twisted world" or whatever, and that one couldn't exist without the other. wanda claims in MoM that the only reason she knows her children are alive is because she dreams of them, which means they exist throughout the multiverse, insinuating they have souls. when wanda "senses" her kids, she didnt take into account that those souls might still be in her reality, probably due to the darkhold blinding her with power, causing her to make rash decisions and leading her into temptation.
Sigil prevents Wanda from sensing Billy is alive. Tommy is not alive. Billy senses Tommy's presence buy can not find him because he has no body... Throughout history.... twins have a spiritual connection that makes their bond to one another stronger than any other could feel. Death as Tommy. Death wants Billy since he "broke the rules" and stole a nearby empty vessel. I think he will fight Death at the end of the road...(real or Hex to be determined) for Tommy's soul. He has the power to go toe to toe with Death....if he can tap onto it. I think he will struggle and Agatha will actually join Billy and help him defeat Death to free Nicholas as well.
Unless she knows of Loki slim chance. But if he controls the timelines would he also be in control of her powers? Can she see the TVA and beyond the void? Can she see beyond her universe? I'm kinda curious if there's only ONE unique person that doesn't exist across all timelines/multiverses similar to America. There's only one of her
I don't know if they're going to explain it in the show. But I think Lilia protecting Billy was the best she could do. Wanda was *corrupted* by the Darkhold. Even if she found Billy, it's unlikely they would have been able to find Tommy at least in the short-term, and the Darkhold would have still made Wanda keep going to the dark side, and would have maybe even hurt her son in the process. And then she probably wouldn't have had a way to... come back. It's better this way. She was evil for a while, she realised what she did was wrong. She tried to fix what she did. She "died" (disappeared). She'll come back and try to redeem herself. And her son/s will help with that.
And also the Tower always means that an outside force/situation will cause some needed upheaval in someone's life. It's like the hand of god forcing you to recalculate the route of your life. So the Westview Hex is the outside event that changed billy.
If Vision Quest really focuses on Vision recruiting the Young Avengers, I will LOVE that. I thought it'd focus on just finding Tommy, which would still make sense. But if we got more of that, with an entire team of Avengers, it's going to be nuts.
0:32 But… wouldn’t the current year in Agatha All Along be 2028, since it takes place three years after the events of WandaVision, which themselves occurred in 2025? 🤔
Wouldn't it be cool if Wiccan ended up wanting to bring back the soul of William? He grew up with such loving parents. It would be selfless enough to win me over until the end of time.
OMG you did not just mention Westworld. I'm still pissed they didn't make a 5th season (but I'm glad the actors got paid at least), and I loved the entire journey (or most of it), specially season 3.
10:40 I think this can happen in the next Avengers movie. But I DON'T want her to marry RDJ's Doctor Doom. Her not remembering anything would be the only valid reason I'd accept for her siding with him and not erasing him from the universe. Up to the point Billy makes her remember who she is, though.
I just realized, if Marvel’s gonna try to connect everything, then shouldn’t have a TVA agent appeared by now. Or does the TVA not have interests in sorcery or witchcraft? Now that Loki controls the tree of timelines, doesn’t he nurture the outcomes of the branches and have the power to approve of everything that marvel put forward now😵💫 Then again, I don’t know how I feel about them showing up and mixing all this up 🤔 I’m probably overthinking this But that’s a question I would ask if you guys would have came to the Bay Area California 🥺😫☹️
I feel like the sigil was also placed so that Agatha would help him. She probably wouldn’t be too cooperative to Wanda’s kid.🤷♀️ Also- tell Doug I said hi. 😻
I recently watched wanda vision and mom wanda really didnt change and she was never good she was emotional and angry and still the bit of making insane decisions on a whim almost set up to use the dark hold it made too much sense why she was crazy in mom i dont agree with people saying she heel turned she didnt even care when she undid the hex
@Screencrush you missed Lilia’s foreseeing as pointed out in last weeks NR video… all the words backwards make sense - beginning with her first inspiration when they first meet … leading to what’s happening in Alice’s episode
3:49 I thought Loki season 1 took place directly after the battle of New York? When Loki used the tesseract he traveled to another location on Earth and was immediately by the TVA so if I'm remembering correctly Loki season 1 should 2012
Idk… I think the sigil serves two purposes. 1) it helps explain why Wanda couldn’t find Billy. And 2) it’s cuz Lilia saw that Death was coming for William Kaplan’s body. Cuz Billy “broke the rules”. And Death wants her bodies. Also I think the tower card has nothing to do with Tommy or Wanda. This show isn’t about them. I think it symbolizes Billy and William splitting in two. Given the meaning of The Tower reversed in tarot, that makes more sense than it being a reference to Tommy and Wanda. Plus the showrunners explicitly state in so many ways that Wanda is not in this series.
GO DISNEY GO!! love Agatha All Along and the season keeps getting better I am so happy with MARVELand everything with the MCU, Deadppol & Wolverine is my favorite movie and can't wait for Avengers: Secret Wars, Avengers: DOOMSDAYS, Fantasic Four and Capatain America! want to see Sony completely pass on Spider-Man to MARVEL!
These are my questions and theories regarding the Agatha All Along Ep 6 and how it will affect the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Questions: 1. Vision was dismantled according to the note of Billy. Was it after the WandaVision? Because Billy knew that White Vision was super alive at the ending of episode of WandaVision. Was it publicized that Vision was dismantled or it is necessary so that the public will not be suspicious to the government that they loss Vision? For me(my theory only): Vision went back to Wakanda. Vision remembered everything. Vision need Shuri but I don't know the reasons though. Because we know in the Multiverse of Madness, looks like Wanda don't have any feelings to the White Vision anymore because she didn't find him. 2. How the sigil of Patti works? I guess it was the same of how Doctor Strange did it at the end of Spiderman: No Way Home. Even the caster will be affected by it. And for me the Sigil was never meant for William Kaplan, it was meant to Billy Maximoff. According to Screencrush, the sigil was created so that Billy will not be tracked by Wanda. But on the 1st episode, Wanda is already dead but the Sigil is still didn't wear off. We know that the Sigil will wear off when it is not needed anymore. The sigil is gone during 6 episodes. It only wear off after Billy used his power. I think the purpose of that sigil was to protect Billy from the influence of witches of what destiny he will choose: a destiny as William Kaplan from Eastview or Billy Maximoff from Westview. We know that it was revealed that both names of William Kaplan and Billy Maximoff was blurred off from the ears of Agatha and in episode 6 I guess we already know the answer that he choose and that is the path as Billy Maximoff. 3. The blurred voice of Billy during the car scene with Agatha during episode 2 is still mystery. The question is "Where are you from?" and everything was noise cancelled. If I guessed about it, I think he also explained the car accident. But I don't have any guesses about what he told to Agatha. 4. I think Ms. Shuri who died in episode 3 was actually a witch but her powers was already sucked by Agatha. We knew that among the coven, Ms. Shuri was the only from the Westview and the rest are from Eastview. But I don't know of how Agatha loss her memory and erased all her witchy being that her coven can't sense any witchy aura from Ms Shuri and also made Ms. Shuri thought she's only an ordinary old lady. THAT'S ONLY MY THEORY AND OPINION GUYS HEHEHEHE.
I'd agree with this theory if the Agatha series didn't reiterate at least on 4 occasions that 616 Wanda Maximoff is actually dead. I think the story of the 838 variant isn't done yet. Maybe with the Illuminati gone on earth 838, that variant of Wanda Maximoff decided to train hard in her sorcery to better protect herself and her children and now she could fulfil the Scarlet Witch prophecy. And just because the statue of Wanda is in the void, that doesn't guarantee that she is.
My marvel timeline: All numbered content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order. Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan. The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list. the infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all me --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America 8. Agent Carter (*) •[@-Agent Carter] 9. Avengers 10. Item 47 (*) •[%-Cloak and dagger] •[@-Defenders saga] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier 12. Thor: dark world •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8] •[A@-AOS S1:E1-5] 13. Iron man 3 •[A@-AOS S1:E6] 14. All hail the king (*) 15. Guardians of the galaxy 16. Avengers: age of ultron •[A@-AOS S1:E9] 17. Ant man •[A@-AOS S1:E7] 18. Capt. America: civil war •[A@-AOS S1:E10-11] 19. Black panther 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange 23. Thor: ragnarok 24. Infinity war 25. Ant man & the wasp 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38. Wakanda forever 39. Secret invasion 40. Moon knight 41. Werewolf by night 42. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 43. Loki S1 44. What if S:1 45. Quantumania 46. Loki S:2 47. What if S:2 48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse) 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) •[%-Spider man 1-3] •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home 53. Morbius ($) 54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 55. Across the spider verse ($) 56. Ms. Marvel 57. The marvels •[@-X-men 96] 58. X-men 97 •[%-Fox X-men saga] 59. Deadpool 60. Deadpool 2 •[%-Fox Daredevil] •[%-Elektra] •[%-Fox Punisher] •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] •[%-Rise of the silver surfer] •[%-Blade Trilogy] 61. Wolverine and Deadpool 62. Agatha all along 64. The eternals 65. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 66. Thunderbolts(€) I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. I recently added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter as accompanying sagas; to the main timeline. I will add AOS, as soon as I can figure out when those episodes take place. Maybe even…the inhumans, legion and the runaways? The new mutants does not fit in the list. I just watched it and I can’t find any references to the list. Unreleased content as of 10/16/24: 1. Thunderbolts(€) 2. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3.Blade 4.Fantastic 4 5.Avengers Doomsday 6.Avengers Secret wars 7.Daredevil born again 8.Ironheart 9.Venom: The last dance 10Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 11.Marvel zombies 12.Kraven 13.eyes of wakanda 14.Xmen97 S:2 15.What if… S:3 16.Wonder man 17.Spider-man Noir 18.Dr strange 3 €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2. May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
I wanted to add that at least before Loki saved the Multiverse, even the future was preordained to happen or the TVA would stop it. This is evident by the fact that HWR was from the 31st Century, so we can assume the Universe continues until the 31st Century in 616. The purpose of the Sacred Timeline (and its collection) was to result in the eventual birth of HWR. So at least until Loki saved the Multiverse, I took it that even the future is set.
Ps: yeah the darkhold was „physically“ destroyed … but !! it was always a copy of the in stone engraved version… and we know as off the latest marvel movies that parts of it survived…
Billy wants Tommy that's why he goes on the witches' road, I think he will be able to know where Tommy is but he won't be able to see him in this show probably not until Vision Quest! I think since Billy is the one that can read minds Tommy is living the person that he reincarnated or possessed but unlike Billy he doesn't think that anything changed after near death experience!
3:55 no, the Hex and Loki season 1 do not happen at the same time. Loki season 1 would be 2012, just after the battle of NY. Wandas hex was after endgame....12 year difference
Wrong. Only the beggining of Loki Season 1 is in 2012. The rest of the show is literally outside and all over time. The end of that season is at the end of time, actually. There's even a theory (and a video showing) that the moment The One Who Remais say he can not predict what's going to happen anymore is the moment Wanda becomes the Scarlet Witch.
@@gandalfdiggory im no "timeologist", but back in 2012, i dont remember it being 2024....im eager to hear how you make that make sense. Be sure to use facts and not fan theories
@@TheoRae8289 No. The One Who Remais literally lives in a place called The End of Time. He can see everything that happened or will happen. But he uses that knowledge to manipulate Loki and Sylvie to break the timeline in a way he doesn't know what happens next.
@@jamieshouldbeavailable Man, have you even WATCHED Loki? The series BEGAN with the events of 2012 indeed, but the TVA exists OUTSIDE of time and the characters go to all points of future or past (at one point Loki goes to freaking Pompeii at the very momemt the city gets vulcanized, for gods sake). And the end of the show's first season happen in a place called The End of Time, where the entirety of time sorta happens all at once. It's a show about TIME FREAKING TRAVEL (like Doctor Who). You don't need to be a "timeologist" or use fan theories to grasp that, just have more than one functioning brain cell and understand what you are watching.
It’s a nice theory but I disagree… I think the scope is much smaller. I believe the sigil was simply to protect Billy from the Death herself. She should have taken William Kaplan’s body when he died but she didn’t because Billy Maximoff broke the rules and took it. Even Agatha suggested this in the latest episode: “so you broke the rules, big deal!”. I think now the plot of the series is going to be about Rio claiming that body and Agatha finally confronting her to protect Billy.
I think Doomsday could be Wanda helping Doom create Battleworld to stop mutual destruction from the incursion. VisionQuest/Secret Wars could be getting the Young Avengers together to rescue Wanda and set things right.
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Most crucial character of the Multiverse saga? Smfh.
Why not Oroborus? 🤷♂️ 😑
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The entire world resting on the glorious shoulders of Patti Lupone would be a dream
Exactly my thoughts
Finally, the ultimate use for that verse from Gypsy: "All that work and what did it get me..."
better than the MCU depending on Robert Downey...what a fan-service cash-grab "we go nothing elese but Ironman fans now" move.
my gay heart can only take so much.
@lizzard4890 I didn't know her before this, but I just saw her on Hot Ones with Aubrey Plaza and it was mad funny.
By the time we get the young avengers, they’re gonna be like the age that the avengers were during the first avengers
Good we dont need the teeny bopper avengers
For real
Yeah let’s hope they go with ‘new’ avengers, rather than young.
Fair and funny point. Please collect your award
You know how old tom holland is and how old spiderman is? The actors go for the age they look most of the time, but peter parker is 17, 14 when he entered the mcu
Kind of a meta clue to Lillia's importance, but that her trial looks to be last also underscores that her character is key to a bigger narrative. Also, Patti LuPone didn't roll up into a Marvel show for a cameo-level part. 😄
9:29 it's not exactly William in the upside down in her crystal ball. It's Billy. You can see the clothes changed.
It's pretty explicitly Billy too. Like they went out of the way to use a visual effect to show him in Billy's clothes. Pretty important detail
I cant believe i missed that detail. 🤦♂️
mind blown that i didnt catch that
Actually William hasn't died yet for Billy to inhabit it
YOOOO I DID NOT NOTICE THAT
You know, with the Darkhold destroyed in every dimension that would mean there's a lot of pissed of magic users who previously had the Darkhold who has no idea what happened but possibly tracking it back to 616.
I had that same thought.
For sure
Doom? 🤔
This kind of thing is why the multiverse sucks ass. Same with anchor beings and shit
The entire MCU resting on Patti Lupone, who has not seen a single Marvel movie is absolute cinema if you ask me
I'd love to see an updated version of this after last nights episode!!
12:18 EXACTLY. She had the Darkhold from episode 9 of Wandavision. No matter what happened to her, even if she had her sons and family back, she would have still been corrupted. And as you point out, that corruption could have also affected Billy. So, it would have been a mess.
The Sigil only hides William/Billy, Agatha would still be searching for Tommy if she could see Billy.
I think the Sigil was put in place to protect Billy from witches for breaking the rules. It also makes Lilia forget William's tragic death.
What if Billy needed to be hidden because he's the only twin who actually got into a new body and Tommy is still body-less? Maybe Vision will make Tokyo ea synthesoid body, just like his own
Also, the 🖤. Every other witch, including Rio, have names. The reason for "just a 🖤 was most likely because she could not see his name.
@@knoplef hmm but billy said that he could sense tommy but didnt know where exactly, im sure wanda wouldve sensed tommy if thats the case..
@@girishsai8519right.. The Silgil hasn’t nothing to do with Tommy so Wanda should have sensed him as-well
Dude - you’re missing the easiest detail on the tower reverse card. On the side billy is falling, his “Scarlett” crown is in place of the regular crown. And on the side Tommy is falling, a lightning bolt is there is reference to him being as fast as lightning / I.e speed. And the “flames, on top are orange and yellow, but the “flames” in the middle of the tower are Scarlett.
explain it to me like I'm five
But why was Thor crying?? 😂
The tower reversed might mean that Billy and Tommy were not falling, but they were rising into prominence. The tower was Wanda's ascendence, and Wanda instead fell. In other words, "reversed" means held upside down.
When you lay out cards in tarot “reversed” means it was placed with the image upside down
It changes the meaning of the card- in this case
The tower reversed means a reluctance to change and let go of the past
17:31 bro said on Patti Lapone 😂
He did
17:19*
The sigil also explains why the last name on the coven list was just a black heart. Lilia couldn't know Billy's name because of the sigil
I think you are confusing Nexus beings with Anchor beings, and that is causing additional confusion...
Deadpool and Wolverine states that an anchor being is a being that anchors their entire reality. If they die, their reality slowly begins to dissolve (this is a meta reference to the fact that Hugh Jackman was basically carrying the Xmen universe and without him, interest in that franchise was waning). They are unique to their universe, and you can't simply take a similar being from another universe and slot them into place and think it will fix everything. Once they are gone, that is it.
The only candidate I can think of that could qualify as an Anchor being in the 616 universe, is RDJs Tony Stark/Iron Man. The MCU has certainly dropped off after Endgame, but whether the MCU is truly dying is a matter of opinion at this point and only time will tell if it means anything in the end. The Deadpool and Wolverine movie also gives the case where a universe can be saved if something significant happens. Perhaps Deadpool and/or Wolverine became the new Anchor being for that universe. We don't know yet.
Meanwhile, Doctor Strange 2 details that Nexus beings are unique beings throughout the multiverse - that is there is only one of them in the entire multiverse. So while The Scarlet Witch - a Nexus being - is dead, Wanda Maximoff - of which there are an infinite number of - is not. Likewise, unlike an anchor being, The Scarlet Witch is dead, but the 616 universe isn't dying. IF Billy is a Nexus being, that would only suggest that this version of him is unique throughout the multiverse, but other than him being a creation of Wanda and soul-slipping into someone else's body... we don't know what would actually make him unique (we have no idea where all of the other Billys in all of the other universes come from, after all).
Doctor Strange 2 also gives us another precedent, which we will have to see what becomes of it, but it insinuates that if a Nexus Being - OR object! - is destroyed, it destroys all variations of that object is other universes, such as when the original Darkhold is destroyed, it also destroyed all of the other copies in all other universes. However, we don't know if that is because Wanda destroyed the original, or if she used a spell/her magic to make its destruction echo throughout the multiverse.
The sacred timeline is not have anchor being only the brances timeline who have that.
You lost me at the Darkhold. It is not a Nexus entity because, as you correctly explained, Nexus entities are unique. So how could destroying a Nexus entity destroy all variations when they don't have variations? No, Wanda did that to the Darkhold; it wasn't some law of nature. She actively destroyed them all.
Patti Iconic as always, not only did she carried musicals and theatre but now the MCU
I just want the Scarlet Witch to say "let there be mutants" at the end.. would be sweet twist on comics
It really would because it’s already set up Wanda can give powers like Monica rambeau
Aren’t there already mutants?
That will be fire, also, peak fiction
@@artmusichair the only mutant we know is ms.marvel, so not much, maybe something wipes them out too.
@@artmusichair there are few mutants now but like in the comics how not all the mutants were wiped out it would be a reverse where a mass amount of mutants would be made.
At some point in this video it occurred to me that Teen and 3 years later Billy has been wearing a Black Heart earring in his left ear the whole series. In some scenes it's less clear and sort of looks like a triangle, but it also adds a rather sweet reference to the fact that Eddie calls Billy his black heart. 🖤
Awesome video! Did not catch the importance of Lilia until this video.
No click bait here just solid theories. Doom being introduced is a definite sign that Wanda could be coming back via the Children's Crusade storyline. Great work Ryan, you da bomb 😎👍
Im really liking the ideas in this video. I think its quite possible that Visionquest will feature Billy Maximoff prominently, and that the show will be about putting together young avengers AND finding out what happened to Wanda, only for the story to culminate in Wandas future (and hopeful redemption arc) in the upcoming Doomsday and Secret wars movies. This seems like the most likely scenario, as the story really makes sense on many levels. I can totally see the pieces falling into place to form the next infinity war saga... !
It could be that Lilia's act of placing a sigil on Billy sets all of this off. That is one of the puzzling things we still dont understand about Agatha series, and we now can't know for sure, since Lilia is dead. (I still want to know how was Agatha able to crawl out of the swamp when Lilia and Jennifer couldn't...)
And what are the chances that Miles Gutierrez-Riley's character Eddie, Billy's boyfriend, will turn out to be a skrull and Hulkling? :D (probably not likely..)
Also whoever wrote the script for Agatha All Along is a genius. There is just so much going on and so many hints and loose threads.
You still seem to be missing it. It isn't William in the crystal ball. It's Billy.
Right, I mean they were wearing completely different clothes.
Because the version of his name used at all affects the meaning behind it. 😂😂😂
The Void will 100% be the stand-in for Battleworld in Secret Wars. This was the best episode so far. I wasn't really all that hyped for this show, I thought it unnecessary filler content, but I was wrong, it's pretty good and I'm enjoying it more every week.
Wanda couldn't see Billy, so she went into MADNESS. Gee, THANKS Lilia!
Yes thanks Lilia..... Now we get more to watch happen😂
Lillia was doing what his mother should have done, protecting him!
Also, Wanda couldn't find Tommy, So Wanda's a loser.
Maybe Wanda shouldn't have abandoned them in the first place?
@@stationarywanderer7910Are you good ? 🤨
@@stationarywanderer7910tbf, Wanda only knows magic from the darkhold and Wanda had no choice but to free Westview. It was already fcked up when she unintentionally tied her family into the hex.
@@CapedCrusader5225 Ummm, do you need a therapist to handle a perfectly benign comment? Seems like it.
You know it’s a good one when it ties back to the Loki series
10:09 Tower reversed is also interpreted as "avoiding disaster" this would fit with your theory that Lilia needed to cast the sigil to hide hide Billy. Interesting 12:19
9:57 all cards meaning changes slightly when “reversed” (they are placed upside down) the tower reversed means reluctance to change, holding on to the past.
The first episode was right! This is a murder mystery!!!
Victim: the Darkhold
Killer: Lilia
Weapon: Insane grieving Wanda
Noticed that the Tower card for the show ads have a blue tiara, which is a change from the yellow crown of the original Rider-Waite-Smith tarot.
I get it now, because of the events of MOM that are already established (considering it is not supposed to be the story line, michael waldron fucked it up) Wanda becoming mad in search for her child, they have to make it more sense on this series (AAA) to make it align with the story as well as the Future films. It's brilliant actually how Jac Schaeffer came up with this. So here's my complete understanding after watching this and it makes more sense. Wanda's prophecy based on the darkhold is to destroy the world. Before the hex (red bubble) has reduced, Lilia might have foreseen the future where Billy inhabits a new body and Wanda sensed it and was able to regain Billy, or both kids. Knowing she still has the dark hold studying it, it will corrupt her alongside Billy, this will fill the prophecy of destroying the world. Lilia made an action (a freewill) of placing a sigil to hide Billy from Wanda that's why the course of action in MOM happened. Now, what happened in MOM is important because she was able to destroy the darkhold in multiversal level so no one will be tempted again like Wanda and Strange. Remember the darkhold prophesied Wanda to destroy the world, it didn't happen in MOM because Wanda's goal is stronger than the prophecy, she wanted her children over ruling. Lilia's freewill actually saved the world from Wanda's prophecy, Lilias action is necessary to destroy the darkhold and so the future Marvel movies could happen (Doomsday, and Avengers movies).
I mean, this is just my POV from what I understand from this video. It's not right or wrong.
Just a note: all the promotional cards have the sigil, not just the Tower.
Agatha all long was pretty fun to watch I wanna see more
I absolutely love that Patti Pupone is so important to the MCU. She's a treasure!
ENTIRE MCU SAVED BY PATTI LUPONE IS ICONIC AND MAKES SENSE TO ME
Is it bad that I only just now noticed Billy's earings are black hearts?
I think everyone forgets that the dark hold still exists. Doctor Strange has a photographic memory he is the last surviving darkhold
I really like your Young Avengers theory - I hope you're right. Joe Locke needs to be in the MCU forever.
I love when he briefly explains the theory in the beginning and I think "that's a reach" and then he proceeds to open my eyes to the matrix and blow my mind.
Even if she did place the sigil on Billy, Wanda would have been able to sense Tommy’s presence like Billy did. I don’t think the MoM theory makes sense
I think the Lilia was protecting Billy from Mephisto, who already claimed Tommy.
I think wanda did, the scream wanda heard at the end of wanda vision was probably Tommy's voice, that's what makes her to go find her kids. Like what Billy said on episode 6, he can sense Tommy, but don't know and can't find where Tommy is, that's why is on the road.
wanda had been convinced that they died when the hex came down because agatha told wanda that her family was "tied to her twisted world" or whatever, and that one couldn't exist without the other. wanda claims in MoM that the only reason she knows her children are alive is because she dreams of them, which means they exist throughout the multiverse, insinuating they have souls. when wanda "senses" her kids, she didnt take into account that those souls might still be in her reality, probably due to the darkhold blinding her with power, causing her to make rash decisions and leading her into temptation.
Sigil prevents Wanda from sensing Billy is alive. Tommy is not alive. Billy senses Tommy's presence buy can not find him because he has no body...
Throughout history.... twins have a spiritual connection that makes their bond to one another stronger than any other could feel.
Death as Tommy. Death wants Billy since he "broke the rules" and stole a nearby empty vessel.
I think he will fight Death at the end of the road...(real or Hex to be determined) for Tommy's soul.
He has the power to go toe to toe with Death....if he can tap onto it. I think he will struggle and Agatha will actually join Billy and help him defeat Death to free Nicholas as well.
I love ‘the MCU depends on Patti LuPone’ conclusion. I bet no one had THAT on their bingo card.
Do you think Lilia can save the Multiverse?
Will Kang come back ?
Unless she knows of Loki slim chance. But if he controls the timelines would he also be in control of her powers? Can she see the TVA and beyond the void? Can she see beyond her universe? I'm kinda curious if there's only ONE unique person that doesn't exist across all timelines/multiverses similar to America. There's only one of her
No but I’m all for patty lapone saving the multiverse
@@PaulieLauraXombie1331
Loki gave the mcu" free will"
BuT I bEliVe LiLiA CaN SaVe tHe WorLD!!!
It's great to hear that another universe revolves around Patti LuPone! (Besides mine, that is)
I don't know if they're going to explain it in the show. But I think Lilia protecting Billy was the best she could do. Wanda was *corrupted* by the Darkhold. Even if she found Billy, it's unlikely they would have been able to find Tommy at least in the short-term, and the Darkhold would have still made Wanda keep going to the dark side, and would have maybe even hurt her son in the process. And then she probably wouldn't have had a way to... come back. It's better this way. She was evil for a while, she realised what she did was wrong. She tried to fix what she did. She "died" (disappeared). She'll come back and try to redeem herself. And her son/s will help with that.
Just rewatched WandaVision and the commercial for the Nexus med days it helps “anchor” you……
You were right about the Sigil!!!👏👏👏
Unfortunatly, the darkhold still exist in the 616. Strange memorized it. All the knowledge is in his head and it will slowly corrupt him.
wow you and your analysis are breathtakingly good!
And also the Tower always means that an outside force/situation will cause some needed upheaval in someone's life. It's like the hand of god forcing you to recalculate the route of your life. So the Westview Hex is the outside event that changed billy.
This is some wild shit Doug & person, can't wait for more!
I feel like Patti LuPone would be obsessed with the fact that she is the catalyst for everything in Marvel going forward lol
This was a great breakdown Ryan..
Thanks🎉🎉🎉
If Vision Quest really focuses on Vision recruiting the Young Avengers, I will LOVE that. I thought it'd focus on just finding Tommy, which would still make sense. But if we got more of that, with an entire team of Avengers, it's going to be nuts.
This channel is awesome!!!! 👏 Thank you!!! 😊
Thanks Ryan!
Am I the only one who thinks that Rogue’s origin story should include her draining Captain Marvels powers like they do in the animated series??
she'll immediately become omega then..
I think she also saw herself as part of that future where Billy was.
Great cliffhanger! We also saw Dr strange with that "if I tell you what will happen it won't happen" idea
Well Harry Houdini was also the wizard of cards aka king of cards too
coincidentally, also considered the world's greatest escape artist, and Billy kinda escaped the Hex. Doubt they were going for that, but yeah
Love the timey wimey reference.
I have that exact same manual razor... I've also had it since high school, I haven't used it in ages though.
0:32 But… wouldn’t the current year in Agatha All Along be 2028, since it takes place three years after the events of WandaVision, which themselves occurred in 2025? 🤔
2027 IRL
@@sykosiz5785 I figured as much, haha… 😅
Wandavison took place in late 2023 or early 2024, mere weeks after endgame
@@M_edits_3 I thought Infinity War took place in 2020, and Endgame in 2020-2025 😗
@@RyanNerdyGamer infinity war takes place in 2018, the same year it released. Endgame takes place 5 years later in 2023
Lalita also forgot who the jacket belonged to right after she dropped the sigil.
You're going to turn yoga into a competitive sport with that Olympic level stretch of a title
😂
Ha, they changed it
What was the title originally?
Wouldn't it be cool if Wiccan ended up wanting to bring back the soul of William? He grew up with such loving parents. It would be selfless enough to win me over until the end of time.
see you guys march 30th in orlando. very excited
just bought the tickets
OMG you did not just mention Westworld. I'm still pissed they didn't make a 5th season (but I'm glad the actors got paid at least), and I loved the entire journey (or most of it), specially season 3.
10:40 I think this can happen in the next Avengers movie. But I DON'T want her to marry RDJ's Doctor Doom. Her not remembering anything would be the only valid reason I'd accept for her siding with him and not erasing him from the universe. Up to the point Billy makes her remember who she is, though.
Such a good show!
I just realized, if Marvel’s gonna try to connect everything, then shouldn’t have a TVA agent appeared by now. Or does the TVA not have interests in sorcery or witchcraft?
Now that Loki controls the tree of timelines, doesn’t he nurture the outcomes of the branches and have the power to approve of everything that marvel put forward now😵💫
Then again, I don’t know how I feel about them showing up and mixing all this up 🤔
I’m probably overthinking this
But that’s a question I would ask if you guys would have came to the Bay Area California 🥺😫☹️
I feel like the sigil was also placed so that Agatha would help him. She probably wouldn’t be too cooperative to Wanda’s kid.🤷♀️
Also- tell Doug I said hi. 😻
I recently watched wanda vision and mom wanda really didnt change and she was never good she was emotional and angry and still the bit of making insane decisions on a whim almost set up to use the dark hold it made too much sense why she was crazy in mom i dont agree with people saying she heel turned she didnt even care when she undid the hex
Hey Ryan,
Will you be breaking down Welcome to Derry when the show comes out?
@Screencrush you missed Lilia’s foreseeing as pointed out in last weeks NR video… all the words backwards make sense - beginning with her first inspiration when they first meet … leading to what’s happening in Alice’s episode
3:49 I thought Loki season 1 took place directly after the battle of New York? When Loki used the tesseract he traveled to another location on Earth and was immediately by the TVA so if I'm remembering correctly Loki season 1 should 2012
Idk… I think the sigil serves two purposes. 1) it helps explain why Wanda couldn’t find Billy. And 2) it’s cuz Lilia saw that Death was coming for William Kaplan’s body. Cuz Billy “broke the rules”. And Death wants her bodies. Also I think the tower card has nothing to do with Tommy or Wanda. This show isn’t about them. I think it symbolizes Billy and William splitting in two. Given the meaning of The Tower reversed in tarot, that makes more sense than it being a reference to Tommy and Wanda. Plus the showrunners explicitly state in so many ways that Wanda is not in this series.
GO DISNEY GO!! love Agatha All Along and the season keeps getting better I am so happy with MARVELand everything with the MCU, Deadppol & Wolverine is my favorite movie and can't wait for Avengers: Secret Wars, Avengers: DOOMSDAYS, Fantasic Four and Capatain America! want to see Sony completely pass on Spider-Man to MARVEL!
IDK Wanda is a "love interest" with RFJ playing Dr Doom, and vision with Billy and Tommy have to save her.
Wow…GREAT VIDEO!!!
This was so good. 😅
These are my questions and theories regarding the Agatha All Along Ep 6 and how it will affect the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Questions:
1. Vision was dismantled according to the note of Billy. Was it after the WandaVision? Because Billy knew that White Vision was super alive at the ending of episode of WandaVision. Was it publicized that Vision was dismantled or it is necessary so that the public will not be suspicious to the government that they loss Vision?
For me(my theory only): Vision went back to Wakanda. Vision remembered everything. Vision need Shuri but I don't know the reasons though. Because we know in the Multiverse of Madness, looks like Wanda don't have any feelings to the White Vision anymore because she didn't find him.
2. How the sigil of Patti works?
I guess it was the same of how Doctor Strange did it at the end of Spiderman: No Way Home. Even the caster will be affected by it. And for me the Sigil was never meant for William Kaplan, it was meant to Billy Maximoff. According to Screencrush, the sigil was created so that Billy will not be tracked by Wanda. But on the 1st episode, Wanda is already dead but the Sigil is still didn't wear off. We know that the Sigil will wear off when it is not needed anymore. The sigil is gone during 6 episodes. It only wear off after Billy used his power. I think the purpose of that sigil was to protect Billy from the influence of witches of what destiny he will choose: a destiny as William Kaplan from Eastview or Billy Maximoff from Westview. We know that it was revealed that both names of William Kaplan and Billy Maximoff was blurred off from the ears of Agatha and in episode 6 I guess we already know the answer that he choose and that is the path as Billy Maximoff.
3. The blurred voice of Billy during the car scene with Agatha during episode 2 is still mystery. The question is "Where are you from?" and everything was noise cancelled. If I guessed about it, I think he also explained the car accident. But I don't have any guesses about what he told to Agatha.
4. I think Ms. Shuri who died in episode 3 was actually a witch but her powers was already sucked by Agatha. We knew that among the coven, Ms. Shuri was the only from the Westview and the rest are from Eastview. But I don't know of how Agatha loss her memory and erased all her witchy being that her coven can't sense any witchy aura from Ms Shuri and also made Ms. Shuri thought she's only an ordinary old lady.
THAT'S ONLY MY THEORY AND OPINION GUYS HEHEHEHE.
I'd agree with this theory if the Agatha series didn't reiterate at least on 4 occasions that 616 Wanda Maximoff is actually dead. I think the story of the 838 variant isn't done yet. Maybe with the Illuminati gone on earth 838, that variant of Wanda Maximoff decided to train hard in her sorcery to better protect herself and her children and now she could fulfil the Scarlet Witch prophecy. And just because the statue of Wanda is in the void, that doesn't guarantee that she is.
Finally someone else is saying this! I agree with all of this 100%!
NOT “MAYO VISION” 😂
My marvel timeline:
All numbered content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order.
Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan. The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list.
the infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all me
--infinity saga--
1. Iron man
2.iron man 2
3.Incredible Hulk
4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
5. Funny thing happened (*)
6. Thor
7. Capt. America
8. Agent Carter (*)
•[@-Agent Carter]
9. Avengers
10. Item 47 (*)
•[%-Cloak and dagger]
•[@-Defenders saga]
11. Capt. America & winter soldier
12. Thor: dark world
•[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8]
•[A@-AOS S1:E1-5]
13. Iron man 3
•[A@-AOS S1:E6]
14. All hail the king (*)
15. Guardians of the galaxy
16. Avengers: age of ultron
•[A@-AOS S1:E9]
17. Ant man
•[A@-AOS S1:E7]
18. Capt. America: civil war
•[A@-AOS S1:E10-11]
19. Black panther
20. Spider man: homecoming
21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
22. Dr. Strange
23. Thor: ragnarok
24. Infinity war
25. Ant man & the wasp
26. Capt. Marvel
27. Endgame
---after tony saga---
28. Spider man: far from home
29. Thor: love and thunder
30. Falcon and the winter soldier
31. Black widow
32. Hawkeye
33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
35. Echo
36. Shang-chi
37. She hulk
38. Wakanda forever
39. Secret invasion
40. Moon knight
41. Werewolf by night
42. Wandavision
--multiverse saga--
43. Loki S1
44. What if S:1
45. Quantumania
46. Loki S:2
47. What if S:2
48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse)
49. Venom ($)
50. Into the spider verse ($)
51. Venom 2 ($)
•[%-Spider man 1-3]
•[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
52. Spider man: no way home
53. Morbius ($)
54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
55. Across the spider verse ($)
56. Ms. Marvel
57. The marvels
•[@-X-men 96]
58. X-men 97
•[%-Fox X-men saga]
59. Deadpool
60. Deadpool 2
•[%-Fox Daredevil]
•[%-Elektra]
•[%-Fox Punisher]
•[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
•[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
•[%-Blade Trilogy]
61. Wolverine and Deadpool
62. Agatha all along
64. The eternals
65. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
66. Thunderbolts(€)
I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
I recently added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter as accompanying sagas; to the main timeline. I will add AOS, as soon as I can figure out when those episodes take place.
Maybe even…the inhumans, legion and the runaways?
The new mutants does not fit in the list. I just watched it and I can’t find any references to the list.
Unreleased content as of 10/16/24:
1. Thunderbolts(€)
2. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
3.Blade
4.Fantastic 4
5.Avengers Doomsday
6.Avengers Secret wars
7.Daredevil born again
8.Ironheart
9.Venom: The last dance
10Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
11.Marvel zombies
12.Kraven
13.eyes of wakanda
14.Xmen97 S:2
15.What if… S:3
16.Wonder man
17.Spider-man Noir
18.Dr strange 3
€-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine).
@-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
%-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty.
A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline
Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2.
May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
so if you have nexus beans and anchor beans, can you create a beanstalk out of them, visit giants outside Midgard like the frost giants?
I wanted to add that at least before Loki saved the Multiverse, even the future was preordained to happen or the TVA would stop it. This is evident by the fact that HWR was from the 31st Century, so we can assume the Universe continues until the 31st Century in 616. The purpose of the Sacred Timeline (and its collection) was to result in the eventual birth of HWR. So at least until Loki saved the Multiverse, I took it that even the future is set.
She probably put the sigil on him based on his palm reading. He said he didn't want to know everything
Ps: yeah the darkhold was „physically“ destroyed … but !! it was always a copy of the in stone engraved version… and we know as off the latest marvel movies that parts of it survived…
You've convinced me. I want a Patti LuPone Book of Cagliastro anthology series
Some of the ads on here are questionable af... what youtube ad settings you have this on?
When she says "You life like is broken in two" I think she's referring to Tommy.
I hope they don’t kill Lilia in this show
Billy wants Tommy that's why he goes on the witches' road, I think he will be able to know where Tommy is but he won't be able to see him in this show probably not until Vision Quest! I think since Billy is the one that can read minds Tommy is living the person that he reincarnated or possessed but unlike Billy he doesn't think that anything changed after near death experience!
Lillia made a butterfly effect on the mcu🤔🤔💅🏽
3:55 no, the Hex and Loki season 1 do not happen at the same time. Loki season 1 would be 2012, just after the battle of NY. Wandas hex was after endgame....12 year difference
Wrong. Only the beggining of Loki Season 1 is in 2012. The rest of the show is literally outside and all over time. The end of that season is at the end of time, actually. There's even a theory (and a video showing) that the moment The One Who Remais say he can not predict what's going to happen anymore is the moment Wanda becomes the Scarlet Witch.
@@gandalfdiggory I thought it was like how the Ancient One couldn't see past her own death?
@@gandalfdiggory im no "timeologist", but back in 2012, i dont remember it being 2024....im eager to hear how you make that make sense. Be sure to use facts and not fan theories
@@TheoRae8289 No. The One Who Remais literally lives in a place called The End of Time. He can see everything that happened or will happen. But he uses that knowledge to manipulate Loki and Sylvie to break the timeline in a way he doesn't know what happens next.
@@jamieshouldbeavailable Man, have you even WATCHED Loki? The series BEGAN with the events of 2012 indeed, but the TVA exists OUTSIDE of time and the characters go to all points of future or past (at one point Loki goes to freaking Pompeii at the very momemt the city gets vulcanized, for gods sake). And the end of the show's first season happen in a place called The End of Time, where the entirety of time sorta happens all at once. It's a show about TIME FREAKING TRAVEL (like Doctor Who). You don't need to be a "timeologist" or use fan theories to grasp that, just have more than one functioning brain cell and understand what you are watching.
You're forgetting Skar, America, Echo & Tony's daughter.
Possibly Tony's protege from Iron Man 3 & Ironheart.
Oh yeah, Negasonic & Yukio..
Some big brain content.
It’s a nice theory but I disagree… I think the scope is much smaller.
I believe the sigil was simply to protect Billy from the Death herself. She should have taken William Kaplan’s body when he died but she didn’t because Billy Maximoff broke the rules and took it. Even Agatha suggested this in the latest episode: “so you broke the rules, big deal!”. I think now the plot of the series is going to be about Rio claiming that body and Agatha finally confronting her to protect Billy.
Lilia’s sigil symbol is located on all of the Marvel promotional tarot cards, not just the Tower.
The top of the tower Tarot Card look's like Billy's crown.
I think Doomsday could be Wanda helping Doom create Battleworld to stop mutual destruction from the incursion. VisionQuest/Secret Wars could be getting the Young Avengers together to rescue Wanda and set things right.