The father killed the baby when he wouldn't stop crying. Remember they kept saying he took the baby in the other room and he finally stopped? Then, because he couldn't bear telling his wife what he'd done, he kidnapped the other baby as a replacement. The Mom is STILL none the wiser.
That was done on purpose. Too many people want to be told what to think because they're used to the mainstream media brainwashing them. This one makes you think for yourself. It makes you use your imagination, something that is lacking in today's society.
@@wassupnomesayin Use imagination for what? For mind reading what was inside writer of screenplay head? So why even bother to make a movie? You can imagine it yourself.
When I was 3 years old my babysitter pretended to be my mother and attempted to kidnap me from preschool, but thankfully the staff knew she wasn't my mom and my parents got a restraining order against her. I always wondered what it would have been like had I been kidnapped and possibly thought that she was my mom.
This one went over my head. Had a hard time trying to understand what the characters were saying at the most crucial moments (I'm not a native speaker). Subtitles would be very useful.
I suppose i am lucky enuf to have been brought up with this accent, North Yorkshire, but as with all these films, they end too soon, therien lies the power!
With how the characters act it is clear he was abducted, and that both of his parents are trying to keep him from finding the truth. Especially when you consider they wouldn't even let him find the truth. Hes basically a prisoner by the end of this film.
This seems to be the consensus, but I ran under the assumption he was adopted and they didn't want him to find out lest he feel alienated. A lot of people are interpreting the parents as threatening, but I see them as worried. Their kid ran away, for christ's sake, and for all they know it's because he had suspicions he wasn't theirs, so they were scared. It could go either way, but I suppose that's the point.
@@Alzarath Wouldnt that be going too far in an unhealthy and damaging way? Once it reaches that point its devolving into abusive. In an real situation they are painting themselves with a guilty brush.
@@FanFickChick1992 Possibly, but people aren't perfect and it can be hard to know when a line is being crossed if you're not looking at a situation objectively.
@@Alzarath I'm sorry but if you missed all the comparisons to the lamb and the fact the kidnapped child on the news looked exactly like him, and the fact there are no baby photos, you're not very observant.. at all. If he was adopted within the law they wouldn't have showed the abducted child news story and the parents would offer to get a blood test to prove they are his parents. You're making up a story which doesn't actually fit with what is being showed to us..
Man the way the mother basically answers what she knows he's wondering with metaphors about the sheep is so disturbing. The story she told in the bathtub about when his father put sheep from two different areas together gave me goosebumps. "He left him in the pen with her for three days but he wouldn't accept her. Most take milk in the end, but somehow he knew he didn't belong." "What happened?" "He died. I think I'll get out now."
1) I believe he was abducted. I think the story was true. Even babies know who their mother is. Their smell, their voice, their warmth. I think he did cry his head off when they brought him home. Because he knew he was not with his true mom. And when they took him in the barn I think it was a sinister move but worked out as he felt a calmness in the lambs. Just my opinion on the story they seemed to rehearse. 2) i believe the father sabotaged the car. As you see at 9:34 both the mother and father are looking at each other over Joel's success, not happy for him but concerned he may leave. The dad shows up as soon as the car breaks down meaning he was right behind him when Joel left the house. 3) i believe the mother can not have children so they went to that hospital 17 years ago to "find" and heir for their dying farm. 4) The pictures he found he hides always. Even at what appears to be him at 5-7 he is hiding. Why? They seem so cold and disconnected. 5) The father comes in and turns off the telli as he's hearing the news of an abducted baby 17 years ago. How suspicious can you be? The sketch looks just like him and as a family who literally breeds and delivers animals they don't have a story of her labor. Just the story of bringing him home. No pictures of her while she is pregnant or no stories of being pregnant. 6) Him hunting down the son and her threatening him their true colors come out. But I don't think this is the first time again referring back to him hiding in photos.
@@gregverney-smith5612 Actually the assumption about him knowing his mom is very true, but not after many years. Newborn babies know their mother's voice because they have been with it for 9months, unfortunately its not easy to know if they can recognize her smell as well but i wouldn't be surprised if they can. I have worked in delivery rooms and a lot of times when the baby is with the mother they are much calmer and dont fuss. But when the mother is stressed they also cry, like when suturing the mother, if she has pain, the baby also cries.
This isn't a Hollywood movie. Instead it reflects real life which so often leaves us hanging with uncertainties. It's also a film of isolation and survival (on many levels) with an almost toxic mix of emotional dependence, emotional control, and emotional blackmail. How can the family hill farm survive if the son leaves? But how can the son survive and become a man if he doesn't? He at least needs to find the truth of his family origins. But he won't find the honesty he seeks in the home that's become a prison to him. So everyone is caught up in a fight for their survival - on many levels. This is no feelgood film. It's pretty damn brilliant all the same.
I think the answer was in the story they told him about when they brought him home. "Even an animal knows when it doesn't belong" big tell right there. Their son died in a flood, they wanted one so bad that they took one. He wouldn't stop crying until they took him into the barn and he heard the lambs bleating. Poor kid. What do you do in that situation? I would have gone to the authorities and had them do a blood test. Still, it was sad. Well done too! Very well done!
He made it this far... soon enough he will be an adult and can do as he wants. Sort it out then. Nothing to be done about it now, in the middle of bloody nowhere
Movie doesn't show fathers bringing him back home by force, he just persuaded him to stop attempting. Protagonist hasn't enough volition to escape and find his true family.
1rewd1 - Possibly. However, as a mother, I've said similar things, out of concern and fear of harm to my child. So, it could be taken either way. We don't know and that's part of the mystery here.
This is just my opinion because I did get quite confused at times, especially with the father. What I got out of it was that he was the abducted baby, and at the end it was like his mother was threatening him not to ever run away again or else?? I’d like to hear others opinions on this. Had that been me I would’ve somehow found a way to get away, get to the police and have them compare my DNA with the missing baby’s parents. After all these years they deserve to know their child is alive, & he deserves to be with his real family.
I love Brendon Urie so much its unhealthy I know that, I’m a script writer I got that part. I was just saying hypothetically if it happened what I’d do, and just thinking about the character overall & what I wish he would’ve done.
In my opinion I think that when the boy thought he was the taken child that the parents made that story to convince him it’s not true but in a way the mom gave up at the end and kind of showed her evil side to try to scare him. But he still could’ve taken the dads car and ran away again but maybe he did we’ll never know.
The isolation and hard life at the farm is enough for a boy to concoct some fantasy or alternate reality. All the vague dialogues and nuances force the viewers to see the story from two different vantage points, leaving us to form our own interpretation to the story, like looking at an abstract painting. I guess the moral of the story is as humans we have an inert desire to seek for the truth when there are incongruities in life.
For some English isn't our first language. So even though we might fully understand American or most Brittish dialects, some dialects are harder to understand
Ya he was abducted because the moms last sinister words were “ And joe don’t u even runaway again” with a sinister tone to it soo it seems he was abducted
I believe this boy was abducted but the reasons were sinister from the start. Dad wanted someone to help him run the ranch so they kidnapped this baby, raised the boy who had never been given any kind of support or kindness that most parents bestow to their children. Deep down, he knew he was not their son. He was never taught how to survive on his own. Being isolated and enslaved by his parents, how would he know how to escape? Just the thought of trying to leave this situation was too abstract for him to see through. It's a sad film and I felt so badly for the boy. I believe, if this had been a true story, he would possibly find the strength to leave, but it would be much later in life. It was far too real for comfort.
Spoilers: It's ironic, Joe is a "lamb" it's a metaphor in a sense, like in silence of the lambs. Joe like the sheep had "died", at the end and any chance to escape is lost.
yo like omeleto have metaphors a lot in their short films every time I watch one I know am not supposed to exactly looking at the image as is and think of it differently
I'm an American, never been abroad, and I have a strange ability to understand every word spoken here (and in shows like Shetland) without subtitles. I'm adopted and was told I was mostly French, but Ancestry DNA has me at 83% British Isles/Ireland/Scotland, which probably has nothing to do with me understanding the dialogue, lol, but is nonetheless interesting.
The final line from the mom is not of concern but a cold threat-- got chills from that! Creepy story, though the accent is tough to hear. What I got from it is Joe was indeed kidnapped and the dad is a murderer and the mom is accomplice to the murder and the kidnapping.
There's no indication that the dad killed the baby. I think they had a baby who died (maybe the mother miscarried) and they abducted another baby to replace the original.
"In the north, we do what we want." -Red Riding Yorkshire must be some kind of place. Taut and tense. Unease and concealment. Fantastic show! The opening scene grips and the following minutes(!) do not relent. Mother's final comment is perfectly pitched. Bravo! So desolate. Beautiful.
When MUM says "Don't ever runway again" it shows they are hidding something from this young man..Like Kidnapping. They probably took him because she couldn't have children or they could not adopt. Plus, the man needed a boy to help him run the sheep farm. Anyway, its a sad case on all parties.
he literally said "warpin" meaning "what happened" . the mom was even worse. their accents are impossible to understand at certain times throughout the film unless youre native
Why is everyone so pissy about the ending? I think it's perfect. It fits the mood; this story clearly isn't meant to have a "satisfying" resolution. It's dark and depressing and tense, and that's what makes it so good.
The dark and depressingness is what people are pissed about. They’re meant to be. You’re meant to want Joe to escape, but he doesn’t. That’s the point. You quite literally answered your own question by saying how it fits perfectly.
Did the father kill the first child? He got so annoyed with the constant crying he took the baby to the lamb shed and killed it? Then to cover up the mess they found joe.
One or two sound issues, but that didn't prevent me from appreciating all the other strong aspects of the film. Very well constructed, acted, shot and edited. So this is what I made of it: the mother had a still born baby. She was devastated so he was abducted in Skipton and brought up as their own. He cried because he didn't recognise his new surroundings, but was comforted by the bleating of the lambs. His new parents' justification that he belonged with them. The disabled mother also physically relied upon him. (Confusing this - when did her disability begin?). Thank you for this generally excellent film!
In the bathtub, she is confirming what he suspects, and tells him he can't make it if he leaves....and the car scene with the father does too, but he lets the boy know that it's justified because he took to the lambs as a baby, that he was ok with them. No telling how often this goes on every day in real life.
Black Market Babies and baby theft was a big deal back in the 70's and 80's (here in the U.S.). Its why there is so much security in maternity wards nowadays compared to other areas of a hospital. It is still a thing though around the world, even today. This film is interesting as it seems to portray the other side of people who get these illegal adoptions. We're told there was another child who died in an accident, the mother is disabled, and they live in a very isolated rural area and likely poverty stricken area. All of these issues combined point to why the family would go the route of an illegal adoption, as they'd likely be denied to do one legally. So they likely bought one. I don't think the parents abducted him personally, They simply went down a dark route to have a child of their own. Joe seems to know he's adopted, but finding out about the missing child case turns even that into something more sinister.
I don't know, for me I would pretend none the wiser and slip out and contact police. Play around like I am not suspicious, then sneak out asap. But that ending with the threat was very creepy/cool...
What a desperate and heart wrenching experience for the boy! Here he is stuck out in the middle of nowhere with parents who only want to use him and he can't get out in the broken down car. The only thing missing is that he might have been able to break out by contacting authorities who were searching for him. Of course, it's fiction, but it does point to probably real situations.
What comment? There's no comment. No reply saying there's no comment either. It's all in your imagination. You have no proof of existence, as you can't prove that your comment exists.
Part 2 Later that night, Joe helps the woman into her bath. As he washes her hair, he tells her that just like that little lamb that died, he knows she is not his mother. He tells her that he will not die here like that little lamb. And then he pushes her head down underneath the water, and holds her there until she drowns. The man is out in the barn, delivering a lamb. While his back is turned, Joe comes up behind him and caves in the back of his head with a sledgehammer. Then Joe takes their car and goes to the town he saw on tv about the missing boy. He finds the police station, and tells a policeman that he was watching tv with his mother when the news came on about the missing boy. When he saw his picture on the tv, he looked over at his mother and there were tears in her eyes. She broke down and told him the truth, that he was the missing boy. She told him that for years they had tried to have children, but because of her illness, they were never able to conceive a child. So her husband went and found them a child, a boy, who would be able to work and would help to save their dying farm. She felt so guilty, and wanted Joe to finally know the truth, and was going to help him leave, then her husband found out she told and flew into a rage and killed her, and was going to kill Joe too, so Joe had to kill him in self defense. The police believe him, and then they take him to meet his real family and he gets to live happily ever after with them.
Maybe it's in his head that he's the missing kid, but it feels real to him, and if he's determined to learn the truth, whatever that is, they won't be able to stop him forever.
Am I the only one who thinks that not the dudes wife? What if she tried to run away but the 2nd time the dude broke her legs and that's why shes in the wheel chair and thats why she warned him not to try and run again..
Uhh no. Its clear its his wife. She cant have children. So they kidnapped Shane (Joe) the mother is paralyzed. It was a threat when she told him not to run away again. Any other loving mother would have a talk with her child and ask why he would run away why does he have doubts. But she knows why he has them.
when they kidnap him and took him home, he wouldnt stop crying because he missed his mother (he knew he didnt belong), like babies do. When they took him to the barn, that somehow calmed him (he "took the milk"). The fact that their way of living (that is so intrinsic for their survival) was what made him stop crying was seen as a sign that he belongs there.
This reminds me of a story I read in like fourth grade about a kid who sees the king of some place pleading to find his son that was switched at birth with another kid. The main kid looks an awful lot like the king (red hair and blue eyes while his family had brown hair and brown eyes) and even his parents say he and the king's son have the same birthday and born in the same hospital. They go to get routine questioned by this agency the king hired and passed enough for the boy to be able to get a DNA test. Even the parents were unsure if he could be the king's son because of the hair and eye difference.TLDR: the boy chooses not to do the DNA test because what good would it due? Sure the king would have his biological son for the throne but it would tear his family apart and he loved them too much.
If every time you're away from them you feel something is wrong, but every time they open their mouths you can't doubt them, know that something is off.
We are all products of change, and we can all change our lives. The damage done to this boy is severe. Even in cases like this, with help from a therapist, people can still learn to live in the present by seeing things for what they really are.
I cannot stand movies like this: movies that don't have an ending. It's not edgy or clever, it says "we didn't trust ourselves enough to take a risk and write an ending people might disagree with, so we're abruptly ending it at the start of the third act" I've seen numerous comments like "it's up to you to decide what happened" WTF. How absurd. The audience can't be left to decide whether the outcome was just or right or fair etc but you can't leave them to decide WHAT happens. It's such a shame too because all the elements are there, it could have been very good.
I was very confused. It was difficult to understand what was going on given the fact that towards the end everything fell into place as if nothing happened at all.
I'm thinking how many people in real life discover they've been kidnapped as babies or toddlers and still decide to stay with the criminals who did that for many reasons. The way I am, if something like that had happened to me I'd have run to the police straight away and had the two creeps who called themselves my parents put in jail for a very long time. No love or affection would have made me stay with them knowing what I knew. But that's just me.
When I was a baby my parents and other relatives went to the beach and I got lost and my family was freaking out they look for me everywhere but found me in a tent with a fish and the lady telling my family that I was not there but my grandma check for good measure and there I was I always wonder what would happen if my grandma never check that tent
It's pretty incredible what technology can do nowadays. The image from the police, predicting the child's growth over the years, was accurate even down to the hair cut. It's amazing that they could guess what his hair style would be after all those years!
@@peezhead .. Why DO people have kids? I never really understood that. Are they just perpetuating the 'family' model they grew up with? Are they doing what society expects of them? Are they afraid of all the questions that folks will ask ( or not say out loud ) ? I do understand that children come in handy toward the end of your days when you need support. Just hope they like you enough to be there for you.
Oh I thought this story was about maybe he had like kidnapped a baby before and then lost his memory somehow then thought the kid he kidnapped was his child. 😂
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The father killed the baby when he wouldn't stop crying. Remember they kept saying he took the baby in the other room and he finally stopped? Then, because he couldn't bear telling his wife what he'd done, he kidnapped the other baby as a replacement. The Mom is STILL none the wiser.
agreed
Agreed!
Agreed..
OOHHHHHHHHHHHH
A mom knows her toddler. The child was kidnapped at 18 months, hardly a baby, so if it was a replacement, mom knows.
Did anyone else notice how most of what the "dad" and "mom" said sounded like threats =-=
@Andrew Zhang hihi
I can't even understand anything the mom says and can barely understand a handful of words the father said.
@@cateatfood6634 me too! Mumbling
& the damn question of is he a kidnap victim was never answered
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Well, this has a dissatisfying lack of resolution.
That's the point
Heidi Bird Music agreed
That was done on purpose. Too many people want to be told what to think because they're used to the mainstream media brainwashing them. This one makes you think for yourself. It makes you use your imagination, something that is lacking in today's society.
@@wassupnomesayin Use imagination for what? For mind reading what was inside writer of screenplay head? So why even bother to make a movie? You can imagine it yourself.
@@wassupnomesayin Being "told what to think" =/= having a conclusion to a story that exists purely for entertainment
When I was 3 years old my babysitter pretended to be my mother and attempted to kidnap me from preschool, but thankfully the staff knew she wasn't my mom and my parents got a restraining order against her. I always wondered what it would have been like had I been kidnapped and possibly thought that she was my mom.
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Instead of wondering what it would have been like to be kidnapped, etc., you should be thankful that it didn't happen.
I was that babysitter
Mountain Warrior big gey
Mountain Warrior I’m sure he is thankful douche. Doesn’t mean he can’t be curious about what would’ve happened...
I wanted him to escape :I
Your profile pic says it all
She should of taken the jeep
Kj27 Wolf that was what I was just gonna say
This one went over my head. Had a hard time trying to understand what the characters were saying at the most crucial moments (I'm not a native speaker). Subtitles would be very useful.
Thyco2501 of the VKP I'm a native speaker and had trouble from time to time especially with this accent
There is closed captioning, but it's no help. Apparently whoever did the captions had difficulty figuring it out, too.
The captions are automatic.
I suppose i am lucky enuf to have been brought up with this accent, North Yorkshire, but as with all these films, they end too soon, therien lies the power!
@@tomasmalin , and they are awful.
With how the characters act it is clear he was abducted, and that both of his parents are trying to keep him from finding the truth. Especially when you consider they wouldn't even let him find the truth. Hes basically a prisoner by the end of this film.
This seems to be the consensus, but I ran under the assumption he was adopted and they didn't want him to find out lest he feel alienated. A lot of people are interpreting the parents as threatening, but I see them as worried. Their kid ran away, for christ's sake, and for all they know it's because he had suspicions he wasn't theirs, so they were scared.
It could go either way, but I suppose that's the point.
@@Alzarath Wouldnt that be going too far in an unhealthy and damaging way? Once it reaches that point its devolving into abusive. In an real situation they are painting themselves with a guilty brush.
@@FanFickChick1992 Possibly, but people aren't perfect and it can be hard to know when a line is being crossed if you're not looking at a situation objectively.
@@Alzarath I'm sorry but if you missed all the comparisons to the lamb and the fact the kidnapped child on the news looked exactly like him, and the fact there are no baby photos, you're not very observant.. at all. If he was adopted within the law they wouldn't have showed the abducted child news story and the parents would offer to get a blood test to prove they are his parents. You're making up a story which doesn't actually fit with what is being showed to us..
@@Alzarath But if he was adopted they should have just told him instead of imprisioning him liek that
We don't get to find out because, well, neither did he. Sometimes, the only "truth" we get is the one we're made to believe.
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@@mr_ocarlin5282 I agree
JAGtheGuardian I also agree
Or choose.
Or the one that we feel inside
Man the way the mother basically answers what she knows he's wondering with metaphors about the sheep is so disturbing. The story she told in the bathtub about when his father put sheep from two different areas together gave me goosebumps.
"He left him in the pen with her for three days but he wouldn't accept her. Most take milk in the end, but somehow he knew he didn't belong."
"What happened?"
"He died. I think I'll get out now."
1) I believe he was abducted. I think the story was true. Even babies know who their mother is. Their smell, their voice, their warmth. I think he did cry his head off when they brought him home. Because he knew he was not with his true mom. And when they took him in the barn I think it was a sinister move but worked out as he felt a calmness in the lambs. Just my opinion on the story they seemed to rehearse.
2) i believe the father sabotaged the car. As you see at 9:34 both the mother and father are looking at each other over Joel's success, not happy for him but concerned he may leave. The dad shows up as soon as the car breaks down meaning he was right behind him when Joel left the house.
3) i believe the mother can not have children so they went to that hospital 17 years ago to "find" and heir for their dying farm.
4) The pictures he found he hides always. Even at what appears to be him at 5-7 he is hiding. Why? They seem so cold and disconnected.
5) The father comes in and turns off the telli as he's hearing the news of an abducted baby 17 years ago. How suspicious can you be? The sketch looks just like him and as a family who literally breeds and delivers animals they don't have a story of her labor. Just the story of bringing him home. No pictures of her while she is pregnant or no stories of being pregnant.
6) Him hunting down the son and her threatening him their true colors come out. But I don't think this is the first time again referring back to him hiding in photos.
My exact thoughts
very well put!!
Munchausen syndrome...he wont leave
@@constancegomez351 You wanted to say "Stockholm", didn't you?
@@gregverney-smith5612 Actually the assumption about him knowing his mom is very true, but not after many years. Newborn babies know their mother's voice because they have been with it for 9months, unfortunately its not easy to know if they can recognize her smell as well but i wouldn't be surprised if they can. I have worked in delivery rooms and a lot of times when the baby is with the mother they are much calmer and dont fuss. But when the mother is stressed they also cry, like when suturing the mother, if she has pain, the baby also cries.
This isn't a Hollywood movie. Instead it reflects real life which so often leaves us hanging with uncertainties. It's also a film of isolation and survival (on many levels) with an almost toxic mix of emotional dependence, emotional control, and emotional blackmail. How can the family hill farm survive if the son leaves? But how can the son survive and become a man if he doesn't? He at least needs to find the truth of his family origins. But he won't find the honesty he seeks in the home that's become a prison to him. So everyone is caught up in a fight for their survival - on many levels. This is no feelgood film. It's pretty damn brilliant all the same.
Thanks professor.
Perry, Perry the Platypus.
Stephen Perry I think we are all aware of that
Ok
Eventually his dad will get old and he will be able to look for his family
That last scene gave me chills, I thought she was gonna say something like "I love you" or "I'm proud of you, sweetheart"
His parents never leave for work since they live on a farm and there might not even be a phone. It would be so hard for him to find a chance to leave.
Unless he runs away in the end
@@reginagrobosz8807 or when the parents are dead. He gets their farm too.
This is uncomfortable
Tis the point
“Don’t you n ever run away again”
I think the answer was in the story they told him about when they brought him home. "Even an animal knows when it doesn't belong" big tell right there. Their son died in a flood, they wanted one so bad that they took one. He wouldn't stop crying until they took him into the barn and he heard the lambs bleating. Poor kid. What do you do in that situation? I would have gone to the authorities and had them do a blood test. Still, it was sad. Well done too! Very well done!
He made it this far... soon enough he will be an adult and can do as he wants. Sort it out then.
Nothing to be done about it now, in the middle of bloody nowhere
glad I read your comment because I had understood that they "took him to the bath and it was bleeding" soooo yeah thanks for clarifying, lol
People who call their children their "miracle" usually aren't able to have children I don't think they ever had a kid of their own.
Movie doesn't show fathers bringing him back home by force, he just persuaded him to stop attempting. Protagonist hasn't enough volition to escape and find his true family.
real subtitles on a video with thick accents would be pretty nice. imagine
Kreachure lol
Glad im not the only one having trouble understanding
exactly my thoughts.
Right?????
I couldn't understand anything and I speak fluent English. Even Google's automated captions can't get the accent.
I speak English and can’t understand what they are saying a lot of the time
Maybe get better hearing
adam clark even the subtitles don’t know what they are saying
No reason to live shut up.
They are speaking English too...
How? It's so easy.
Yep, he was abducted alright. "Mother's" admonition at the end was the tell.
1rewd1 - Possibly. However, as a mother, I've said similar things, out of concern and fear of harm to my child. So, it could be taken either way. We don't know and that's part of the mystery here.
I think it was her tone that did it for me.
Catharsis what when does she say that
The boy looks like a young David Duchovny. If they do another season of the X-Files, he could play Fox Mulder in a flashback.
This is just my opinion because I did get quite confused at times, especially with the father. What I got out of it was that he was the abducted baby, and at the end it was like his mother was threatening him not to ever run away again or else?? I’d like to hear others opinions on this. Had that been me I would’ve somehow found a way to get away, get to the police and have them compare my DNA with the missing baby’s parents. After all these years they deserve to know their child is alive, & he deserves to be with his real family.
Yep, I definitely would run away again. It seems that he doesn't have internet, that would have made things easier...
Bruno I. N. Yeah, having internet would’ve made it a lot easier 😂
I love Brendon Urie so much its unhealthy I know that, I’m a script writer I got that part. I was just saying hypothetically if it happened what I’d do, and just thinking about the character overall & what I wish he would’ve done.
In my opinion I think that when the boy thought he was the taken child that the parents made that story to convince him it’s not true but in a way the mom gave up at the end and kind of showed her evil side to try to scare him. But he still could’ve taken the dads car and ran away again but maybe he did we’ll never know.
I think maybe he doesn't even know about DNA testing. And I'm thinking they never sent him to school. Nobody knows he exists.
I have been binge watching all of omeleto films ❤❤❤❤
Me too.
The isolation and hard life at the farm is enough for a boy to concoct some fantasy or alternate reality. All the vague dialogues and nuances force the viewers to see the story from two different vantage points, leaving us to form our own interpretation to the story, like looking at an abstract painting. I guess the moral of the story is as humans we have an inert desire to seek for the truth when there are incongruities in life.
this needs subtitles. the mom sounds like shes speaking russian
How I understand everything she said
Ikr
At some parts it sounds like they are speaking french to me
How?! It's in English! 😆
For some English isn't our first language. So even though we might fully understand American or most Brittish dialects, some dialects are harder to understand
"This is where you belong". "We love you so much". "Please come home". Words I wish every runaway child would hear.
Ya he was abducted because the moms last sinister words were “
And joe don’t u even runaway again” with a sinister tone to it soo it seems he was abducted
i mean FBI sure have a damn good psychic artist to predict and draw it to look as someone irl
When i saw that lamb being born in the first scene, i was like, "ewe!"
@@joannasanky8447 that's not funny...
You 5 years old?
I was like aww
I feel like no one got the pun...
Lol ewe! Perfect 👌
Damn. There couch hella close to the television.
It's just drake and Josh dawg
They're poor. They live in small rooms.
Boo Stover
They own a farm
I believe this boy was abducted but the reasons were sinister from the start. Dad wanted someone to help him run the ranch so they kidnapped this baby, raised the boy who had never been given any kind of support or kindness that most parents bestow to their children. Deep down, he knew he was not their son. He was never taught how to survive on his own. Being isolated and enslaved by his parents, how would he know how to escape? Just the thought of trying to leave this situation was too abstract for him to see through. It's a sad film and I felt so badly for the boy. I believe, if this had been a true story, he would possibly find the strength to leave, but it would be much later in life. It was far too real for comfort.
Spoilers:
It's ironic, Joe is a "lamb" it's a metaphor in a sense, like in silence of the lambs. Joe like the sheep had "died", at the end and any chance to escape is lost.
Glad we have " Mr. Obvious " to explain it to all us uneducated simpletons.
This really has nothing at all to do with silence of the lambs and he didn't die, he's maybe temporarily resigned.
Joel*
yo like omeleto have metaphors a lot in their short films every time I watch one I know am not supposed to exactly looking at the image as is and think of it differently
Am I the only one who can clearly understand what they’re saying lmao
Brandon right?
What does he ask at 6:16?
I'm an American, never been abroad, and I have a strange ability to understand every word spoken here (and in shows like Shetland) without subtitles. I'm adopted and was told I was mostly French, but Ancestry DNA has me at 83% British Isles/Ireland/Scotland, which probably has nothing to do with me understanding the dialogue, lol, but is nonetheless interesting.
@@noahcorona1397 where my brother
Noah Corona Where were they?
The final line from the mom is not of concern but a cold threat-- got chills from that! Creepy story, though the accent is tough to hear. What I got from it is Joe was indeed kidnapped and the dad is a murderer and the mom is accomplice to the murder and the kidnapping.
There's no indication that the dad killed the baby. I think they had a baby who died (maybe the mother miscarried) and they abducted another baby to replace the original.
"In the north, we do what we want." -Red Riding Yorkshire must be some kind of place. Taut and tense. Unease and concealment. Fantastic show! The opening scene grips and the following minutes(!) do not relent. Mother's final comment is perfectly pitched. Bravo! So desolate. Beautiful.
Yorkshire is beautiful, but just like anywhere people go missing in the countryside.
When MUM says "Don't ever runway again" it shows they are hidding something from this young man..Like Kidnapping. They probably took him because she couldn't have children or they could not adopt. Plus, the man needed a boy to help him run the sheep farm. Anyway, its a sad case on all parties.
That cliffhanger. I need this completed!
6:37 whips out my dimond sword
You absolute monster
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I don't understand how some people are saying they can't understand them. Their words seem quite clear to me
Some people struggle with accents.
Their accent is quite thick so it's hard for non-native speaker.
To you
@@shinnyart that's why I said "I" and "me". Because the words seemed clear to ME
he literally said "warpin" meaning "what happened" . the mom was even worse. their accents are impossible to understand at certain times throughout the film unless youre native
Why is everyone so pissy about the ending? I think it's perfect. It fits the mood; this story clearly isn't meant to have a "satisfying" resolution. It's dark and depressing and tense, and that's what makes it so good.
The dark and depressingness is what people are pissed about. They’re meant to be. You’re meant to want Joe to escape, but he doesn’t. That’s the point. You quite literally answered your own question by saying how it fits perfectly.
Did the father kill the first child? He got so annoyed with the constant crying he took the baby to the lamb shed and killed it? Then to cover up the mess they found joe.
One or two sound issues, but that didn't prevent me from appreciating all the other strong aspects of the film. Very well constructed, acted, shot and edited.
So this is what I made of it: the mother had a still born baby. She was devastated so he was abducted in Skipton and brought up as their own. He cried because he didn't recognise his new surroundings, but was comforted by the bleating of the lambs. His new parents' justification that he belonged with them. The disabled mother also physically relied upon him. (Confusing this - when did her disability begin?). Thank you for this generally excellent film!
In the bathtub, she is confirming what he suspects, and tells him he can't make it if he leaves....and the car scene with the father does too, but he lets the boy know that it's justified because he took to the lambs as a baby, that he was ok with them. No telling how often this goes on every day in real life.
Black Market Babies and baby theft was a big deal back in the 70's and 80's (here in the U.S.). Its why there is so much security in maternity wards nowadays compared to other areas of a hospital. It is still a thing though around the world, even today. This film is interesting as it seems to portray the other side of people who get these illegal adoptions. We're told there was another child who died in an accident, the mother is disabled, and they live in a very isolated rural area and likely poverty stricken area. All of these issues combined point to why the family would go the route of an illegal adoption, as they'd likely be denied to do one legally. So they likely bought one. I don't think the parents abducted him personally, They simply went down a dark route to have a child of their own. Joe seems to know he's adopted, but finding out about the missing child case turns even that into something more sinister.
I don't know, for me I would pretend none the wiser and slip out and contact police. Play around like I am not suspicious, then sneak out asap. But that ending with the threat was very creepy/cool...
Welp. Guess you're gonna have to kill them in their sleep Joe.
GrumpyFox I read this in the mother’s voice for some reason lol
What a desperate and heart wrenching experience for the boy! Here he is stuck out in the middle of nowhere with parents who only want to use him and he can't get out in the broken down car. The only thing missing is that he might have been able to break out by contacting authorities who were searching for him. Of course, it's fiction, but it does point to probably real situations.
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Part 2
Later that night, Joe helps the woman into her bath. As he washes her hair, he tells her that just like that little lamb that died, he knows she is not his mother. He tells her that he will not die here like that little lamb. And then he pushes her head down underneath the water, and holds her there until she drowns. The man is out in the barn, delivering a lamb. While his back is turned, Joe comes up behind him and caves in the back of his head with a sledgehammer. Then Joe takes their car and goes to the town he saw on tv about the missing boy. He finds the police station, and tells a policeman that he was watching tv with his mother when the news came on about the missing boy. When he saw his picture on the tv, he looked over at his mother and there were tears in her eyes. She broke down and told him the truth, that he was the missing boy. She told him that for years they had tried to have children, but because of her illness, they were never able to conceive a child. So her husband went and found them a child, a boy, who would be able to work and would help to save their dying farm. She felt so guilty, and wanted Joe to finally know the truth, and was going to help him leave, then her husband found out she told and flew into a rage and killed her, and was going to kill Joe too, so Joe had to kill him in self defense. The police believe him, and then they take him to meet his real family and he gets to live happily ever after with them.
Danm that baby be coming out smoking
Lol
All I was thinking was “insecure attachment style” causing interpersonal conflict.
He looks like that dude from that meme with his veins popping out his face
When it's been 3 minutes since you doubt of you parents
@@human2.021 That is what I am saying lol
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So many things to think about. Incredibly subtle and well done
Maybe it's in his head that he's the missing kid, but it feels real to him, and if he's determined to learn the truth, whatever that is, they won't be able to stop him forever.
Am I the only one who thinks that not the dudes wife? What if she tried to run away but the 2nd time the dude broke her legs and that's why shes in the wheel chair and thats why she warned him not to try and run again..
Ohh nice
Omg what
Uhh no. Its clear its his wife. She cant have children. So they kidnapped Shane (Joe) the mother is paralyzed. It was a threat when she told him not to run away again. Any other loving mother would have a talk with her child and ask why he would run away why does he have doubts. But she knows why he has them.
let's put a smile on that face Art is open to interpretation... and I think it’s nice to hear other theories that could apply
Very interesting theory! I didn’t even think of that!
The captions are hysterical!
when they kidnap him and took him home, he wouldnt stop crying because he missed his mother (he knew he didnt belong), like babies do. When they took him to the barn, that somehow calmed him (he "took the milk"). The fact that their way of living (that is so intrinsic for their survival) was what made him stop crying was seen as a sign that he belongs there.
the guy felt that he's alone and lonely even if he live with his parents
This reminds me of a story I read in like fourth grade about a kid who sees the king of some place pleading to find his son that was switched at birth with another kid. The main kid looks an awful lot like the king (red hair and blue eyes while his family had brown hair and brown eyes) and even his parents say he and the king's son have the same birthday and born in the same hospital. They go to get routine questioned by this agency the king hired and passed enough for the boy to be able to get a DNA test. Even the parents were unsure if he could be the king's son because of the hair and eye difference.TLDR: the boy chooses not to do the DNA test because what good would it due? Sure the king would have his biological son for the throne but it would tear his family apart and he loved them too much.
Andy Alvarez what was the book called?
@@crossiantek7906 I really wish I remembered but it's been 13+ years so I have no clue.
@@lovedaymorbid was it mark twain?
Andy Alvarez I read a book like that too I think it was called Marvin.
idk if you have even passes 2nd grade if you can't spell the right do
When two people tell the exact same stories, it is suspicious, it is really herd to get to people to tell the exact same story.
Please add subtitle.....It will be helpful for non-natives like me.
Orin Chowdhury you can turn subtitles on.
I use captions for the hard of hearing, & in this film they were useless. Sometimes nonsense, other times missing.
dave duha well than you better figure it out with the lousy subtitles
great story and powerful message!
Mind to tell me what the message is?
Kjetil Birkeland
how society brainwashes us and we need to raise our voice against evil
sanah 101 Ok
sanah 101 yea hope there is a part two of some kind,
His ''mom'' looks crazy and worried, or startled, everytime they interact
That sheep was so cute
16:38 made my spine chill
Watched the whole video thinking the parents took the baby to the bath to stop him crying. Apparently, it's the barn they took him to, no the bath.
“Joe got kidnapped”
“Who’s Joe?”
JOE MAMA
this deserves more likes smh
😂😂😂
BRUH!
No it's me
President Joe MAMA Biden
the boy's suspicions are CORRECT! GOOD FLICK!
Kidnapped or not the advice is the same :
*Get. Out. Of. There. NOW.*
If every time you're away from them you feel something is wrong, but every time they open their mouths you can't doubt them, know that something is off.
i was convinced that was my stomach rumbling at the start.
We are all products of change, and we can all change our lives. The damage done to this boy is severe. Even in cases like this, with help from a therapist, people can still learn to live in the present by seeing things for what they really are.
This is a lot scarier than a horror movie imo.
Part 2 please!
They don't make these.
@@SafetyKitten The creators could potentially watch these TH-cam videos
This guy has got a future. He's amazing.
3:45 -- So Edward Norton was abducted when he was a kid?
I cannot stand movies like this: movies that don't have an ending. It's not edgy or clever, it says "we didn't trust ourselves enough to take a risk and write an ending people might disagree with, so we're abruptly ending it at the start of the third act" I've seen numerous comments like "it's up to you to decide what happened" WTF. How absurd. The audience can't be left to decide whether the outcome was just or right or fair etc but you can't leave them to decide WHAT happens.
It's such a shame too because all the elements are there, it could have been very good.
It's already interesting and it's only 3 minutes in...
"what happened to the dead lamb?" "WE BURNED HIM" wow! lamb being the originalk son
I was very confused. It was difficult to understand what was going on given the fact that towards the end everything fell into place as if nothing happened at all.
That death glare at 7:21 tho
My favorite part too
I'm thinking how many people in real life discover they've been kidnapped as babies or toddlers and still decide to stay with the criminals who did that for many reasons.
The way I am, if something like that had happened to me I'd have run to the police straight away and had the two creeps who called themselves my parents put in jail for a very long time. No love or affection would have made me stay with them knowing what I knew. But that's just me.
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Really a great story. Inspires us to raise our voice against the evil.
When I was a baby my parents and other relatives went to the beach and I got lost and my family was freaking out they look for me everywhere but found me in a tent with a fish and the lady telling my family that I was not there but my grandma check for good measure and there I was I always wonder what would happen if my grandma never check that tent
Oh! Muh goodness! That was one of The creepiest last sentences I’ve ever heard in a movie!
Right on!
❤️,A Dorothy In Red Mary Janes
16:47 what you gonna do? Run after him
Bold demands for someone who depends entirely upon his labor for survival. He'll figure it out.
Wish it was a whole movie
So...was he the kidnapped child or what? Thats gone right over my head.
It's pretty incredible what technology can do nowadays. The image from the police, predicting the child's growth over the years, was accurate even down to the hair cut. It's amazing that they could guess what his hair style would be after all those years!
Maybe because it's a movie :)
@@AutobahnVault Oh it was! I thought I was reading a book!
@@Sa1ntTV huh
i thought the noise at the start was my stomach rumbling im not even kidding
The guy is a very good actor !
The newborn “sheep” was a representative of himself. As he was the “sheep” being coddled by his persecutors
Kept expecting agent starling to knock at the door. Lol
Fantastic vid
6:45 he looked like AX7 vocalist M. Shadows😍♥️
Yeah huh?
I believe they kidnapped him to be of free service to the farm (& with helping the mother) instead of being desperate to have a son. Sad!
They couldn't have any kids anymore after she lost her son, who was always crying, so they kidnapped him.
Hell! Everyone has kids just for service...lol
@@peezhead .. Why DO people have kids? I never really understood that.
Are they just perpetuating the 'family' model they grew up with?
Are they doing what society expects of them?
Are they afraid of all the questions that folks will ask ( or not say out loud ) ?
I do understand that children come in handy toward the end of your days when you need support.
Just hope they like you enough to be there for you.
@@renzo6490 I always wondered that too.
@@renzo6490 Very few people ask these deep questions. Most just follow life as if living in a herd.
he was taken, the story the mom and dad said was too parallel as if they thought this would happen.
Oh I thought this story was about maybe he had like kidnapped a baby before and then lost his memory somehow then thought the kid he kidnapped was his child. 😂