16 is a number a lot of people forget exactly how insanely stacked it was. Bobby Clarke? Marcel Dionne? I mean shit Marcel Dionne was 3rd all time in points for a while there, he's been passed by guys who played longer but, considering he played on some average and lousy teams his ENTIRE CAREER, his PPG... he's basically Gretzky if Gretzky played alone with no Messier Kurri Anderson and Lowe his entire career. I think it has to be Brett Hull though. After Gretzky, Brett is the highest goal scorer in any single season. If he had played through the entire 80s like Wayne, I truly believe he would have 1000 NHL goals. He played half of his career during the defensive trap era where noone could even score 50 goals... Id say its a toss up between Wayne Brett and Ovechkin who's the true best goal scorer ever.
As of right now Connor is young and still has tons of Career ahead of him Jeremy has had one hell of a career so he gets it in my books as well, but Connor will take that accolade in the short future.
What?? Jesus. Im glad I stopped at 16. Idc what your agrument is. 97 is McDavid. Roenick was a VERY GOOD player that played 20 years! Just look at the points per game. Than watch McDavid play. I watched Roenick play his whole career. Your comparing Ryan O'Rilley to Sidney Crosby here...
Idk why I have to post this comment because I said it at the beginning of the video, I’m already seeing tons of comments “didn’t even mention this guy or this guy” I said I was gonna miss some honourable mentions, it’s hard enough to talk about 99 players in a video😂
IMO Henri Richard has been overlooked by not only the English media but by the French media as well. Maurice gets his due attention but Henri has almost disappeared.
@@wingnutwillie 7x He won it every years from 1954-55 to 1961-62 *except in 1958-59* Both Eddie Shore w/ his 4 Hart trophies and Doug Harvey are underrated asf nowadays.
@@cloudsopowera6248 shit, i missed that too. i'd take macinnis over leetch though. harvey didn't really have much competition for the norris, until this orr kid came along.
Go further mate , the true detroit legacy ! Konstantinov in the great years, but handicapped from an accident after the cup : and you forgot Larionov, Fetisov and Kozlov. At one point Bertuzzi ;) Larry Murphy was there and it was crazy.
Sergei Zubov was an animal. I actually remember him more for his defensive prowess than his offensive ability. That dude could do it all. Him and Darryl Sydor were one of the best D pairs for a few years.
@@isakpersson9793 Well, apparently a majority of those 1 000 people were wrong. The fact that Sundin is from Stockholm (Capitol of Sweden) and played for Djurgården (the most dispised team in Sweden because it's a "big city" team and most of the hockey Community in Sweden is based in smaller citys and rural areas of the country with big inferiority complex towards the capitol) played a big roll in that poll. Had Sundin been from say, Skellefteå or Karlstad (smaller citys with a strong hockey identity) I doubt Datsyuk would have won. With that said, they were both f**king great players, but for me Sundin is the best #13.
Älskar hur det är två Svenskar som för den här diskussionen på Engelska ;) Anyway, as a Swede I'm biased towards Mats Sundin, but as a Detroit fan I'm biased towards Pavel Datsyuk. So why just not appreciate them both ;)
@@KristoferAsplund he clearly is, it's pretty hard to make the argument that Datsyuk is the better player. I am slightly biased since I'm a Swede, but I think he's just the better player. Also, I do think Forsberg is the best number 21, he's one of the best players I've ever seen play, and despite his career being fraught with injuries, he had a very good career.
How could you not give an honorable mention to Eric Lindros? His career may have been cut short- productivity wise- due to concussions, but for a brief time, in the mid nineties. He was The Man...
@@Itsameemario I watched the Red Wings sweep the Flyers and hold Lindros to a single goal the whole series. In fact, Flyers only scored 6 goals the entire series, Lindros didn't score his goal until the last 2 minutes of game 4 as the goalie was pulled.
They say Leaf fans are Loyal...I have a few Buddies who are Bruin fans and even though I am a Leaf Fan I would rank us a close second behind The Bruin Faithful...Original Six fans been around since Black&White and getting up to change the channel !
Great video, thank you. So often today when videos like this are made, the time of the Original Six and before is forgotten about. I really liked how you did your best to cover the entire history of the league here. Well done!
Doug Harvey HAS to be the best number 2 in NHL history. Come on, the guy won 7 Norris Trophies and is, in my opinion, the second best defenseman in history.
@@johnnyslokes89 I guess you could say that in a sense . But the reason there was a 6 team era was nhl hockey had to compete in a small share American market after baseball football etc. The guys who played the six team were the elite though.
I've heard somewhere that back in the old days goalies were given the last number on the team and when there was about 30 skaters in the system goalies usually ended up with numbers like 30-35. Don't know if this true tho
@@ukkeliskukkelis8971 100% true. Bang on. But main reason was the jerseys got bigger the bigger the number got. So 35 was like xxxl. 30 was like xxl. Ur right, cause its Same idea tho
"Sergei Frederov" is very underrated player. He wasn't even listed in any roster and they've misspelled his name on the Stanley cups as "Fedorov" pff..
Other way around, very overrated. Once he left Detroit, he was nothing like people remember. Really good playing on a stacked team though. But I feel like playing in Detroit made his career
@@Tek3333 Toews, a two-way forward with a better ppg then a playmaker when it matters. Key player and captain of a modern dynasty. Ofc Toews got mention over Thornton
bryan trottier didn't get a mention either, and he was better than thornton. toews isn't even in the top 10 scoring 19s after 13 years, and doan was a glorified second-liner on a team who never had anyone better. toews is quite possibly the most overrated player of the last decade. he's never had a point per game over a full season. his career high is 81 points. every 19 ahead of him on the list, except for doan, has exceeded that total more than once. that includes defenseman larry robinson, who was also snubbed. trottier was the player toews wishes he was.
@@doaftheloaf Problem is that todays generation is totally underrated. The reason is that most people still looking for total points and ppg, specially in regular seasons. There is almost none player last decade with a point per game in the playoffs, difference between Spezza with 3d best ppg and number 20 is almost nothing so people have to start looking at other stats when comparing. Toews is the mvp of the Blackhawks dynasty just like Trottier was Islanders mvp 1980.Trottier stats was more impressive but its because the avarage players was shit back then.
he's up against a guy called mr. hockey. and the runner-up has the trophy for most goals in a season named after him. modano was definitely great, but not in the same stratosphere as howe and richard. that's like lumping toews and doan in with yzerman and sakic...oh wait...
Maybe if Leetch didnt make the list Modano would be on. Remember Leetch was a defenseman with forward skills. Really unheard of, possibly the closets to Bobby Orr we will ever see.
@@doaftheloaf I'm argue that Mike Modano could easily be spoken of in he same sentence as Howe and Richard. Modano played in a very different NHL than both of those guys and was a top player in a much harder, bigger league.
@Zach Dragon i honestly think that kane is the best american player of all time but i respect ur choice, modano was hella good but Kane is just way better
As a Red Wings fan since the days of the Olympia and watching Mickey Redmond play, I disagree. Pavel was a great player and one of the most exciting BUT Pavel never had to carry an entire team on his shoulders in that kind of market.
@@HughHarding46 That doesn't mean Sundin is better. A player's skill is a player's skill, regardless of who is around them. I'm only 35, but I stand by that Datsyuk is the best all-around player I've ever seen in my life. Sundin was an amazing player though.
@@TheAlphapuck5280 Dude that's funny you had me rolling there. Say these words out loud, "that 3-time Selke winner was never anything more than a flashy player". Yeah, exactly. Brett Hull said he was the sickest player he's ever seen. Yzerman said he did things nobody else could do, or even tried. Datsyuk gets credit as a great player, but I really believe he is massively underrated.
21:34 Fedorov excelled in every aspect of the game. All those points AND two Selke trophies. Tavares, Stamkos, Seguin, will never do that. I remember one year at the all star skills competition, Fedorov participated in fastest skater, hardest shot, and other categories. The guy was amazing at everything. And don’t forget that time that due to injuries on the blue line in Detroit, he played defence for a significant period of time. What other 1,000+ point player did that?
Fedorov was overrated. He played on stack teams and wasn't as productive once he left Detroit. He was good but I could never consider him an all time great and I'm a Red Wings fan.
@@DizzyDez613 Yeah like the last 7-8 years of his career are pretty forgettable. Everyone acts like they didn't happen but they did. Basically he left Detroit and stopped being good at hockey
No. 7 Howie "the meteor" Morenze he held the scoring title for decades after his death in the first class of the hall of fame first player to have his jersey retired in pro sports also the only person to have 4 generations play for the same team pretty freaking awesome to not even be mentioned oh and he even died of complications from an injury whilst playing against the Bruins
Steve Larmer is a guy that only played 14 years I believe, retiring at 34, but had over 1000 points and a point per game. Thats off the top of my head, I cover hockey statistics as a career. When asked why he retired so soon after 94-95 he said he felt he wasnt at the top of his game anymore, and he could have kept playing to pad his stats but, he was happy. You gotta respect that, he had to know playing even 2 or 3 more years would have secured him a spot in the hall of fame. He was a PPG consistent scorer for 13 of the 14 years until the lockout year, he constantly made playoff runs with the Blackhawks but sadly, they never got there in the 80s due to Calgary and Edmonton dominating that era, but he won it with the Rangers and was great that season. He's the epitome of a guy who should be a hall of famer, if he played longer, like say, Rod Brind Amour and Dave Andreychuk did.... Dave is in, Rod likely someday will be, but Steve retired too soon to have that spot.
Am I the only person not complaining about who you did and didn't mention and just saying that I liked the video? Damn, calm down a bit. He took the time to put this together.
Looks like a fairly well researched list. I would agree with most choices. I think #2 is Doug Harvey, #7 is Ted Lindsay, #13 is Pavel Datsyuk, #27 is Scott Neidermayer, #34 is John Vanbiesbrouck, and #97 is Connor McDavid (Roenick wore #27 for many of his best years). Also who is Sergei Frederov? I am a lifetime Red Wings fan and I think #91 should be Sergei Fedorov.
@@chancefrankland3386 Not a chance. Datsyuk had 918 points in 953 games, Sundin had 1349 points in 1346 games and they played more or less in the same era.
He never scored over a hundred. Don’t count! But he had a nice slapper and physical dimension to his game. Also solid at his end, unlike some of his more offensively forward D-man contemporaries, of his day- not naming any name, just sipping my coffee, here…
Great list, Zäta (Zetterberg) will always be one of my biggest idols ever. Loved that guy, but my all time favorite player will always be Yzerman with Lidström and Fedorov as close 2nd and 3rd. //A fellow Wings fan. :)
I was concerned that we wouldn't get any Wild players on here, but we snuck Mikael Granlund in! We still love you in MN and when you're a free agent I hope we give you an offer!
Interesting stat about Mike Bossy, he averaged 50 goals per season over his entire career. He actually scored 50+ goals for 9 straight seasons until 1986 when he was already playing with basically a career ending injury. What could have been if his career hadn't been cut short?
#9 is the greatest number in NHL history. Howe, Richard, Bobby Hull, Johnny Bucyk, Norm Ullman, Charlie Conacher, and I'm sure I'm missing some others.
Lindros definitely deserves some acknowledgement at 88. If it wasn't for his concussions, even Kane wouldn't keep up with the production he had early on in his career.
Hey man, nice list. I really appreciate how unbiased you were. We all have our favorites, but you did a great job of showing some solidly objective consideration. EDIT: It was good enough it earned the hat trick from me: Like, Comment, and Subscribe. 😊
#9 Honourable Mention: BOBBY HULL Only Howe and Gretzky have more goals in the NHL and WHA combined. #10 Honourable Mention: DALE HAWERCHUK Twentieth on the all-time points list. (Bure, a more one-dimentsional player, is 184th, but he get's a shout-out and not Ducky?) Jets don't get no respect... (At least you gave a pick to Housley and a shout out to Selanne.) Sincerely Jay from Winnipeg
Hal Gill your Jersey number 75 that was his first jersey with the Boston Bruins then while still with the Boston Bruins he switch to jersey 25 and wore 25 with the Toronto Maple Leafs also wore jersey 2 with the Toronto Maple Leafs and Pittsburgh Penguins before switching back to jersey 75 after signing with the Montreal Canadiens alot of jerseys retired in Montreal and Brendan Shanahan your jersey number 14 also wore jersey 11 when he started out in New Jersey and jersey 18 when he returned to the New Jersey Devils on a one year deal jersey 19 with the St Louis Blues and jersey 94 with the Hartford Whalers and I remember all of this from the Playstation EA sports NHL games and of course from watching hockey games on TV so Hal Gill not a true Jersey number 75 or Brendan Shanahan not a true jersey number 14 but I really did very much enjoy this video and did smash the like button for you and really do appreciate the amount of time you put into making this video for us hockey fans great job Cheers
Lost all my respect at 13 without datsyuk but instantly earned it back with shanahan at 14😂 Reason for datsyuk: He won 2 cups and nobody says who's that when you say his name to hockey lovers👍
Nice job. Great mention on underrated Pavol Demitra. Who was 14? Most entertaining 14 of all time goes to Theo Fleury. Big Eric deserves a nod on 88 yes?
Datsyuk over Sundin, he gave us entertainment on top of the highest hockey skill level on both ends of the ice more than pretty much anyone so if u cant go wrong with either of them i give the edge to the magic man based on all the extra...well magic!
@@louisrousseau1006 this is one of the worst arguments of all time, there are players who have put up hat tricks who literally got sent back to the AHL and never made the league again, luck and skill are 2 different things, you gotta be able to understand at least that much....
Mats Sundin has more goals, assists, points. He has like 500-600 more points than Datsyuk. Maybe if they were closer in points but Sundin was much more productive. Sundin was able to enter the league at 19 years old.. Datsyuk didn't get in until he was 23. Datsyuk was just a lot more of a 2 way player which is why he got those Selke trophies
@Johnny Slokes bro, i love Sundin but you wont find anyone in the world who thinks he's a better hockey player than Pavel Datsyuk and thats with ALL due respect, there's nothing wrong with not being better than Datsyuk tho just fyi...
@@sojiroseta98 You are in the minority. All I been doing is watching videos or reading articles on this topic and literally no video or article has Datsyuk at #13 but multiple have Sundin. He was the more productive player, played more games, scored more goals, assisted more goals, had nearly twice as many game winning goals, more power play goals, made more all star games. Only thing Pavel has on him is +/- rating and more hardware and Pavel was obviously better 2 way with his Selke trophies. And I'm from Detroit, I'm a Red Wings fan.
I love the numbers of "there was literally no one to choose from..." and "so I guess it's gotta be this guy..." You know your career is awesome when he never heard about you prior to making this list.
#7 is Ted Lindsay no contest. 4 cups and created the nhlpa. Players don't have the life they live today without Mr Lindsay standing up. Plus he was yin to Mr hockey's yang
they'd have to do a lot to unseat dryden, a top 5 goalie in NHL history. fleury has no shot, though he should make the HOF. if drasisaitl or mackinnon becomes one of the 25 best players ever, we can have the conversation. until then, no.
Obviously, Gordie Howe is correct for #9 but Bobby Hull should have gotten an honorable mention. Back in the old Chicago Stadium, there was electricity in the air whenever he got the puck. For this video, it's just too bad for Bobby that they both had the same number.
Finally some appreciation to Pavol Demitra. R.I.P.
"Finally"? 0.o
@@hucz he was always a bit underrated during his career. A star, but never really a top star.
goat
SUCH a good player.
Hall of Famer
#16 Henri Richard is a big miss. 11 Stanley Cups , probably a record that will never be passed by no other player + 1000 points
16 is a number a lot of people forget exactly how insanely stacked it was. Bobby Clarke? Marcel Dionne? I mean shit Marcel Dionne was 3rd all time in points for a while there, he's been passed by guys who played longer but, considering he played on some average and lousy teams his ENTIRE CAREER, his PPG... he's basically Gretzky if Gretzky played alone with no Messier Kurri Anderson and Lowe his entire career. I think it has to be Brett Hull though. After Gretzky, Brett is the highest goal scorer in any single season. If he had played through the entire 80s like Wayne, I truly believe he would have 1000 NHL goals. He played half of his career during the defensive trap era where noone could even score 50 goals... Id say its a toss up between Wayne Brett and Ovechkin who's the true best goal scorer ever.
Yeah the only player that was really good that marcel dionne played with was luc robitaille
Double negative......"never be passed by no other player"
Jesse Pollock got snubbed for 69. Also McDavid is the best 97
Thank you Houston Texans very cool
As of right now Connor is young and still has tons of Career ahead of him Jeremy has had one hell of a career so he gets it in my books as well, but Connor will take that accolade in the short future.
@@SessionSakic I always associated Roenick with #27.
Surprised that 97 was the number he played the most with.
What?? Jesus. Im glad I stopped at 16. Idc what your agrument is. 97 is McDavid. Roenick was a VERY GOOD player that played 20 years! Just look at the points per game. Than watch McDavid play. I watched Roenick play his whole career. Your comparing Ryan O'Rilley to Sidney Crosby here...
@@Posirep Same here, I always thought he wore #27 longer.
I’m a rangers fan and the biggest memory from Marty Biron’s time is when Hertl put 4 in against with a between the legs.
He also retired right after that game
Oh ya i remember that I’m a sharks fan
@@ukkeliskukkelis8971 lol
Idk why I have to post this comment because I said it at the beginning of the video, I’m already seeing tons of comments “didn’t even mention this guy or this guy” I said I was gonna miss some honourable mentions, it’s hard enough to talk about 99 players in a video😂
What if we dont
Ok
Was this my request or did you see someone else's comment
Only if you like this
Nathan Herbert I’ve been thinking of doing it ever since I did it with current players, but I did see tons of comments requesting it
Datsyuk for 13. Henri Richard for 16...winningest player in NHL history at 11 Stanley Cups🕊
SELANNE FOR 13!! CLARKE FOR 16!!
@@1987phillybillyno
Number 16, you forgot to mention Henri Richard and his 11 stanley cups
Epic fail
mentions brett hull, bobby clark, and marcel dion but forgets a man with 11 cups? incroyable
Nah it’s Tom Kostopoulos
IMO Henri Richard has been overlooked by not only the English media but by the French media as well. Maurice gets his due attention but Henri has almost disappeared.
And he actually mentioned Trevor Linden in the same breath as Hull and Dionne
I would’ve loved a troll moment and put danny heatley in #15. Mr 50 in ‘07
He's should've gotten an honorable mention
Denis Potvin @ #5 and Bryan Trottier @ #19 deserved an honorable mention
Kiprusoff might be the most underrated player of all time. That dude carried The Flames for years.
It still baffles me how he didn’t win the conn smythe in ‘04…
Yzerman vs. Sakic. Greatest decade in hockey.
I'm surprised Al MacInnis wasn't an honorable mention for No. 2
If you were supried MacInnis was ommitted, think about Doug Harvey, a *SEVEN-time Norris trophy winner*
Cloud Sopowera 6x
@@wingnutwillie 7x He won it every years from 1954-55 to 1961-62 *except in 1958-59* Both Eddie Shore w/ his 4 Hart trophies and Doug Harvey are underrated asf nowadays.
@@cloudsopowera6248 shit, i missed that too. i'd take macinnis over leetch though.
harvey didn't really have much competition for the norris, until this orr kid came along.
@ William Buehler - Yes, me too. MacInnis and (as Cloud Sopowera says) Doug Harvey...
Absolutely SHOCKED that Doan got an honorable mention at 19 over Larry Robinson and Bryan Trottier. Wow.
It's simple he doesn't realize that hockey was around before 1995
A lot of young people on TH-cam. That’s why.
@@TheNewsstandMan Yeah Holmström over Bure at 96 wtf >.
or Joe Thornton
@@jamespatterson1074 Your statement is invalid because of Jacques Plante at 1.
01-02 Red Wings had #5 Lidstrom #14 Shanahan #16 Hull #19 Yzerman #20 Robitaille #24 Chelios #39 Hasek #91 Fedorov and #96 Holmstrom...with a honorable mention of #13 Datsyuk... Thats insane
+ #40 Zetterberg
They are the reason why the NHL had to institute the salary cap. Those wings were just a power house for years.
There were 13 Hall of Famers on the team at the same time at one point if I remember correctly
Go further mate , the true detroit legacy ! Konstantinov in the great years, but handicapped from an accident after the cup : and you forgot Larionov, Fetisov and Kozlov. At one point Bertuzzi ;) Larry Murphy was there and it was crazy.
@@johndeere2525 I don't think that was the reason.
Sergei Zubov was an animal. I actually remember him more for his defensive prowess than his offensive ability. That dude could do it all. Him and Darryl Sydor were one of the best D pairs for a few years.
In sweden as i live in, they ask in a nhl podd who was the best at number 13. And Datsyuk won even if Sundin is a swede.:)
They asked ower 1000 swedes
@@isakpersson9793 Well, apparently a majority of those 1 000 people were wrong. The fact that Sundin is from Stockholm (Capitol of Sweden) and played for Djurgården (the most dispised team in Sweden because it's a "big city" team and most of the hockey Community in Sweden is based in smaller citys and rural areas of the country with big inferiority complex towards the capitol) played a big roll in that poll. Had Sundin been from say, Skellefteå or Karlstad (smaller citys with a strong hockey identity) I doubt Datsyuk would have won. With that said, they were both f**king great players, but for me Sundin is the best #13.
Älskar hur det är två Svenskar som för den här diskussionen på Engelska ;) Anyway, as a Swede I'm biased towards Mats Sundin, but as a Detroit fan I'm biased towards Pavel Datsyuk. So why just not appreciate them both ;)
@@KristoferAsplund he clearly is, it's pretty hard to make the argument that Datsyuk is the better player.
I am slightly biased since I'm a Swede, but I think he's just the better player.
Also, I do think Forsberg is the best number 21, he's one of the best players I've ever seen play, and despite his career being fraught with injuries, he had a very good career.
You are literally my be a pro characters name
How could you not give an honorable mention to Eric Lindros? His career may have been cut short- productivity wise- due to concussions, but for a brief time, in the mid nineties. He was The Man...
Lindros would've been literally next to gretzky. NO ONE no team could stop him. FAR better than Kane.
@@Itsameemario Well I wouldn't go that far... But Eric for sure deserves an honorable mention, for sure!
@@Itsameemario I watched the Red Wings sweep the Flyers and hold Lindros to a single goal the whole series. In fact, Flyers only scored 6 goals the entire series, Lindros didn't score his goal until the last 2 minutes of game 4 as the goalie was pulled.
12:28 fun fact, David Krejci lead scoring in the 2010-2011 playoffs, 12 goals, 11 assists, for 23 points in 25 games played.
They say Leaf fans are Loyal...I have a few Buddies who are Bruin fans and even though I am a Leaf Fan I would rank us a close second behind The Bruin Faithful...Original Six fans been around since Black&White and getting up to change the channel !
Great video, thank you. So often today when videos like this are made, the time of the Original Six and before is forgotten about. I really liked how you did your best to cover the entire history of the league here. Well done!
Doug Harvey HAS to be the best number 2 in NHL history. Come on, the guy won 7 Norris Trophies and is, in my opinion, the second best defenseman in history.
Doug Harvey played in a beer league. Leetch did it all in the toughest era ever for Defensemen.
@@kenmiller5515 hardly six team league meant best players compared to 26 or more. Harvey was tough too. He had to deal with Howe Lindsey ETC.
Al MacInnis
@@ronmailloux8655 a 6 team league just meant there was tons of great players not in the league.
@@johnnyslokes89 I guess you could say that in a sense . But the reason there was a 6 team era was nhl hockey had to compete in a small share American market after baseball football etc. The guys who played the six team were the elite though.
15:43 if anyone knows the name of this soundtrack, let me know
21 - Forsberg. A no-brainer.
As an Avs fan I agree. I think he’s a redwings fan and we hate eachother lol
Beginning to realize that goalies love #1, #29-#35 and also any number ending in 0
Yeah I noticed that to
You didn’t know that until now
What about Bobrovsky, Hasek, Biron and Bernier. They were all in the video as well.
I've heard somewhere that back in the old days goalies were given the last number on the team and when there was about 30 skaters in the system goalies usually ended up with numbers like 30-35. Don't know if this true tho
@@ukkeliskukkelis8971 100% true. Bang on. But main reason was the jerseys got bigger the bigger the number got. So 35 was like xxxl. 30 was like xxl. Ur right, cause its Same idea tho
Do Best comebacks in NHL history (regular season and playoffs) please!
Blues 2018-2019
Bruins 2013
@@letsgoblues9030 Yes.
Habs 2021
Mario
I think Nik Kronwall should have at least been given an honorable mention at no.55. That guy is a tank
"Sergei Frederov" is very underrated player. He wasn't even listed in any roster and they've misspelled his name on the Stanley cups as "Fedorov" pff..
Other way around, very overrated. Once he left Detroit, he was nothing like people remember. Really good playing on a stacked team though. But I feel like playing in Detroit made his career
Giroux is gonna take 28 when it’s all said and done
Kyle Chamberlin Facts
Are you related to Wilt Chamberlin?
Was gonna say the same thing
@@lauralieber2409 probably a son of considering the stories about ol wilt
Giroux? ha... he's only good at grabbing the ass of male police officers
How you can not even give Lindros an honorable mention at 88 is really hard to take.
Pretty much any player who wears 88 is great. Nylander and Pastrnak wear it too.
Love the video, Really loving the content
Shocked that Joe Thornton doesn’t even get an honourable mention at 19
Toews and Doan got mentions over him lol
@@Tek3333 Oof. Thornton definitely deserved an honourable mention there!
@@Tek3333 Toews, a two-way forward with a better ppg then a playmaker when it matters. Key player and captain of a modern dynasty. Ofc Toews got mention over Thornton
bryan trottier didn't get a mention either, and he was better than thornton. toews isn't even in the top 10 scoring 19s after 13 years, and doan was a glorified second-liner on a team who never had anyone better. toews is quite possibly the most overrated player of the last decade. he's never had a point per game over a full season. his career high is 81 points. every 19 ahead of him on the list, except for doan, has exceeded that total more than once. that includes defenseman larry robinson, who was also snubbed.
trottier was the player toews wishes he was.
@@doaftheloaf Problem is that todays generation is totally underrated. The reason is that most people still looking for total points and ppg, specially in regular seasons. There is almost none player last decade with a point per game in the playoffs, difference between Spezza with 3d best ppg and number 20 is almost nothing so people have to start looking at other stats when comparing. Toews is the mvp of the Blackhawks dynasty just like Trottier was Islanders mvp 1980.Trottier stats was more impressive but its because the avarage players was shit back then.
Fun Fact about Phil Housley- He was the first American born player to score 1000 points!
And he could skate! Fast & fluid..
You do know he was a defenseman right?
Feels bad when there was not even HM for Jere Lehtinen at #26, the man won 3 Selkes as a winger
Selkcther don’t count!
St. Louis
Not even a honorable mention for Mike Modano?! Greatest American hockey player of all time!!
He’s one of my favorites all time, but he unfortunately had a number that some of the most iconic players of all time had.
he's up against a guy called mr. hockey. and the runner-up has the trophy for most goals in a season named after him.
modano was definitely great, but not in the same stratosphere as howe and richard.
that's like lumping toews and doan in with yzerman and sakic...oh wait...
Maybe if Leetch didnt make the list Modano would be on. Remember Leetch was a defenseman with forward skills. Really unheard of, possibly the closets to Bobby Orr we will ever see.
@@doaftheloaf I'm argue that Mike Modano could easily be spoken of in he same sentence as Howe and Richard. Modano played in a very different NHL than both of those guys and was a top player in a much harder, bigger league.
@Zach Dragon i honestly think that kane is the best american player of all time but i respect ur choice, modano was hella good but Kane is just way better
Datsyuk > Mats sundin
As a Red Wings fan since the days of the Olympia and watching Mickey Redmond play, I disagree. Pavel was a great player and one of the most exciting BUT Pavel never had to carry an entire team on his shoulders in that kind of market.
@@HughHarding46 That doesn't mean Sundin is better. A player's skill is a player's skill, regardless of who is around them. I'm only 35, but I stand by that Datsyuk is the best all-around player I've ever seen in my life. Sundin was an amazing player though.
Agreed. Datsyuk was incredible!!!
Datsyuk was very good but never was anything more than a flashy player. Sundin carried the leafs back in the day
@@TheAlphapuck5280 Dude that's funny you had me rolling there. Say these words out loud, "that 3-time Selke winner was never anything more than a flashy player". Yeah, exactly. Brett Hull said he was the sickest player he's ever seen. Yzerman said he did things nobody else could do, or even tried. Datsyuk gets credit as a great player, but I really believe he is massively underrated.
Brian Trottier was a pretty decent 19
How does he include Doan in the 19 conversation but not Trottier?
@@danstlaurent8306 how does he include Doan and not Trottier or Jumbo Joe haha
@@luc6544 Stevie Y only wore 19 as Trottier was his favorite player.
or Larry Robinson.
21:34 Fedorov excelled in every aspect of the game. All those points AND two Selke trophies. Tavares, Stamkos, Seguin, will never do that.
I remember one year at the all star skills competition, Fedorov participated in fastest skater, hardest shot, and other categories. The guy was amazing at everything. And don’t forget that time that due to injuries on the blue line in Detroit, he played defence for a significant period of time. What other 1,000+ point player did that?
Fedorov was overrated. He played on stack teams and wasn't as productive once he left Detroit. He was good but I could never consider him an all time great and I'm a Red Wings fan.
@@johnnyslokes89 Really? He wasn’t as productive in the later stages of his career? Interesting.
@@DizzyDez613 Yeah like the last 7-8 years of his career are pretty forgettable. Everyone acts like they didn't happen but they did. Basically he left Detroit and stopped being good at hockey
for #2, eddie shore might be the best. He is the best defenseman of the 20s and 30s and one of the greatest defenceman of all time
c'mon man
Yes, recency bias definitely going on here.
Doug Harvey is the best #2
Day 5 of asking for players overshadowed in the 90s
No. 7 Howie "the meteor" Morenze he held the scoring title for decades after his death in the first class of the hall of fame first player to have his jersey retired in pro sports also the only person to have 4 generations play for the same team pretty freaking awesome to not even be mentioned oh and he even died of complications from an injury whilst playing against the Bruins
You never even seen him play… Admit it!
Steve Larmer is a guy that only played 14 years I believe, retiring at 34, but had over 1000 points and a point per game. Thats off the top of my head, I cover hockey statistics as a career. When asked why he retired so soon after 94-95 he said he felt he wasnt at the top of his game anymore, and he could have kept playing to pad his stats but, he was happy. You gotta respect that, he had to know playing even 2 or 3 more years would have secured him a spot in the hall of fame. He was a PPG consistent scorer for 13 of the 14 years until the lockout year, he constantly made playoff runs with the Blackhawks but sadly, they never got there in the 80s due to Calgary and Edmonton dominating that era, but he won it with the Rangers and was great that season. He's the epitome of a guy who should be a hall of famer, if he played longer, like say, Rod Brind Amour and Dave Andreychuk did.... Dave is in, Rod likely someday will be, but Steve retired too soon to have that spot.
i would give an honorable mention for #11 for Gibert Perrault
Great job! I figured there might be one number that wasn't used, but nope - every one!
17 is clearly Milan Lucic and his incredible skating ability
And David rittich
Dude lucic is like the best player to ever play the game
Don’t forget his unreal goal scoring ability
Not to mention he took such a team friendly contract
The only reason he skates behind everybody is because he’s already lapped them once and it just catching up
Would love to see your rankings of best forward lines and defensive pairings currently
Am I the only person not complaining about who you did and didn't mention and just saying that I liked the video?
Damn, calm down a bit. He took the time to put this together.
Thank you :)
I get it’s a lot of players to cover but forgetting very good players who are STILL playing is quite silly
I love videos like this. So much respect to the time and energy going into a video like this.
even if Stan Mikita is a beast, he cant hold a candle to Peter Forsberg
don't be a homer Swede , Stan Mikita won 4 Art Ross and 2 Hart, Forsberg 1 of each and a Calder
Andreas Edvinsson My fellow Swede, Stan Mikita is larger than Forsberg. Just like Schwarzenegger is bigger than Lundgren.
Forsberg was great and all but he wasn't ever anything close to Stan Mikita.
Could you do a video on your thoughts on the playoff format the NHL may use???
UMMMMM...#2 honorable mention to Dunkan Keith? Ever heard of Al MacInnis?
or Doug Harvey
Looks like a fairly well researched list. I would agree with most choices. I think #2 is Doug Harvey, #7 is Ted Lindsay, #13 is Pavel Datsyuk, #27 is Scott Neidermayer, #34 is John Vanbiesbrouck, and #97 is Connor McDavid (Roenick wore #27 for many of his best years). Also who is Sergei Frederov? I am a lifetime Red Wings fan and I think #91 should be Sergei Fedorov.
22:55 It took me way too long to realize who you were hinting at to take his spot.
Same, Now I know it's Rostislav Klesla of the CBJ
ARE YOU DUMB
Alexander The Coyotes Fan don’t let him get to you man he’s just getting what he wants
Fun fact: #78 Marc Pouliot was Sidney Crosby’s 1st line teammate in Rimouski Océanic in QJMHL
13 should’ve been Datsyuk
Datsyuk? Not even close. Datsyyk is garbage.
Nah datsyuk amazing
@@chancefrankland3386 Not a chance. Datsyuk had 918 points in 953 games, Sundin had 1349 points in 1346 games and they played more or less in the same era.
Ok someone forgot to give an honorable mention to Eric Lindros
I hate the Flyers, but even I had to make that comment. Anybody in the Hall should automatically get an HM.
Holmstrom was underrated I think and I’m not just saying that cause I’m a red wings fan
Amazing work, my man. Very entertaining.
Raymond Bourque was just crazy. Go check his stats/season,you'd think he was a foward (and one of the best in the league)
He never scored over a hundred. Don’t count! But he had a nice slapper and physical dimension to his game. Also solid at his end, unlike some of his more offensively forward D-man contemporaries, of his day- not naming any name, just sipping my coffee, here…
The secret to his success was a really long career. It was nice to see him get a cup before calling it.
Great list, Zäta (Zetterberg) will always be one of my biggest idols ever. Loved that guy, but my all time favorite player will always be Yzerman with Lidström and Fedorov as close 2nd and 3rd. //A fellow Wings fan. :)
6:50 actually 1980-1983 :D if somebody cares
I was concerned that we wouldn't get any Wild players on here, but we snuck Mikael Granlund in! We still love you in MN and when you're a free agent I hope we give you an offer!
#90 should've been David Ayres or Scott Foster🔥
LOL
yessss I agree
😄
Didn't Joe Juneau wear 90 too?
Interesting stat about Mike Bossy, he averaged 50 goals per season over his entire career. He actually scored 50+ goals for 9 straight seasons until 1986 when he was already playing with basically a career ending injury. What could have been if his career hadn't been cut short?
I was waiting for Andrew desjardins let’s pray that a guy like reaves puts that number on
No hockey on TV over here so I've been checking your videos out a lot lately. Keep 'em coming and LGRW!!!
#9 is the greatest number in NHL history. Howe, Richard, Bobby Hull, Johnny Bucyk, Norm Ullman, Charlie Conacher, and I'm sure I'm missing some others.
Some BIG Guns there.
paul kariya
53: "I think sooner rather than later, Bo Horvat takes over this spot."
Moritz Seider says "No."
you know the number 45 is irrelevant when jonathon bernier gets it 😂
Lindros definitely deserves some acknowledgement at 88. If it wasn't for his concussions, even Kane wouldn't keep up with the production he had early on in his career.
no honorable mention for Lindos @ 88 c'mon man! :)
Hey man, nice list. I really appreciate how unbiased you were. We all have our favorites, but you did a great job of showing some solidly objective consideration.
EDIT: It was good enough it earned the hat trick from me: Like, Comment, and Subscribe. 😊
You Are SICK Love The Vids
Not sure how i missed this video a year ago but gave it a fat like. Great work
should’ve mentioned thornton at 19...
I said at the start I’d miss some honourable mentions
I commented that
Yzerman, Sakic, Robinson and Trottier over Thornton.
@@cloudsopowera6248 all five over toews and doan.
#9 Honourable Mention: BOBBY HULL
Only Howe and Gretzky have more goals in the NHL and WHA combined.
#10 Honourable Mention: DALE HAWERCHUK
Twentieth on the all-time points list.
(Bure, a more one-dimentsional player, is 184th, but he get's a shout-out and not Ducky?)
Jets don't get no respect...
(At least you gave a pick to Housley and a shout out to Selanne.)
Sincerely
Jay from Winnipeg
Wow bryan trottier name is on the cup how many times and not even an honorable mention... smh 🤦🏻♂️
And Larry Robinson won more cups than trottier and he also isn't one hahaha.
Hal Gill your Jersey number 75 that was his first jersey with the Boston Bruins then while still with the Boston Bruins he switch to jersey 25 and wore 25 with the Toronto Maple Leafs also wore jersey 2 with the Toronto Maple Leafs and Pittsburgh Penguins before switching back to jersey 75 after signing with the Montreal Canadiens alot of jerseys retired in Montreal and Brendan Shanahan your jersey number 14 also wore jersey 11 when he started out in New Jersey and jersey 18 when he returned to the New Jersey Devils on a one year deal jersey 19 with the St Louis Blues and jersey 94 with the Hartford Whalers and I remember all of this from the Playstation EA sports NHL games and of course from watching hockey games on TV so Hal Gill not a true Jersey number 75 or Brendan Shanahan not a true jersey number 14 but I really did very much enjoy this video and did smash the like button for you and really do appreciate the amount of time you put into making this video for us hockey fans great job Cheers
No honorable mention to gilbert perreault for the 11 ?
Or Mike Gartner
I just finished a bomb ass supper, and realized you uploaded a video:( love the video though!!
You mention Trevor Linden and Doan but no mention of Pat Lafontaine ... feelsbadman
I agree, maybe Hull over Lafontaine, but no way do Doan & Linden over Lafontaine....
i dont care theyre all retired now
Nicely done. I really enjoyed it.
Thanks for doing my request 👍
@ Jimjim Playzz34 that's a good choice for a video
Brian Savage's brother was my teacher in high school. Still have his hockey bag from when he was on the coyotes
Lost all my respect at 13 without datsyuk but instantly earned it back with shanahan at 14😂
Reason for datsyuk: He won 2 cups and nobody says who's that when you say his name to hockey lovers👍
Nice job. Great mention on underrated Pavol Demitra. Who was 14? Most entertaining 14 of all time goes to Theo Fleury. Big Eric deserves a nod on 88 yes?
Totally. Lindros is still a good distance ahead on Kane in my opinion.
Datsyuk over Sundin, he gave us entertainment on top of the highest hockey skill level on both ends of the ice more than pretty much anyone so if u cant go wrong with either of them i give the edge to the magic man based on all the extra...well magic!
yep Datsyuk never recorded a hat trick in his career
@@louisrousseau1006 this is one of the worst arguments of all time, there are players who have put up hat tricks who literally got sent back to the AHL and never made the league again, luck and skill are 2 different things, you gotta be able to understand at least that much....
Mats Sundin has more goals, assists, points. He has like 500-600 more points than Datsyuk. Maybe if they were closer in points but Sundin was much more productive. Sundin was able to enter the league at 19 years old.. Datsyuk didn't get in until he was 23. Datsyuk was just a lot more of a 2 way player which is why he got those Selke trophies
@Johnny Slokes bro, i love Sundin but you wont find anyone in the world who thinks he's a better hockey player than Pavel Datsyuk and thats with ALL due respect, there's nothing wrong with not being better than Datsyuk tho just fyi...
@@sojiroseta98 You are in the minority. All I been doing is watching videos or reading articles on this topic and literally no video or article has Datsyuk at #13 but multiple have Sundin. He was the more productive player, played more games, scored more goals, assisted more goals, had nearly twice as many game winning goals, more power play goals, made more all star games. Only thing Pavel has on him is +/- rating and more hardware and Pavel was obviously better 2 way with his Selke trophies.
And I'm from Detroit, I'm a Red Wings fan.
I love the numbers of "there was literally no one to choose from..." and "so I guess it's gotta be this guy..."
You know your career is awesome when he never heard about you prior to making this list.
This man really said Toews over Joe Thornton
he said yzerman
SunChipJonez69 i realize that🤦♂️ he said special mention to toews but didn’t say Joe Thornton
Sports SZN Podcast ohhhh my bad lol
Toews deserves that honorable Mention. I'm not that sure About Doan
Didn’t say backstrom either, the man who led the league in assists this decade
I’ve been waiting for this vid!!!
You missed the best of all for #1, Keith Kinkaid!
i know you said you were gonna miss some honorable mentions but as a sens fan i have to say you slept on alfredson for number 11
Yeah Straka!!!
Was waiting all day for another video
Wasn’t Doug Harvey 2
yes. My best #2 forever
You could have had/mentioned John Gibson for #36, Craig Anderson for #41 or Sami Vatanen for #45
How about Ryan Miller #30 honorable mention?
Do Who Won The Most Awards Won By A Player For Each Team If They Are On Two Teams Do The One Who They Where On The Most
#7 is Ted Lindsay no contest. 4 cups and created the nhlpa. Players don't have the life they live today without Mr Lindsay standing up. Plus he was yin to Mr hockey's yang
#16 LaFontaine
#19 Trottier
You don't even mention them….
At least he got #22 and #31 right.
You missed an opportunity not making a Doug Glatt joke at 69.
When it’s all said and done and if he maintains this course Draisaitl or mackinon might deserve 29
Or Fleury but def macKinnon.
they'd have to do a lot to unseat dryden, a top 5 goalie in NHL history. fleury has no shot, though he should make the HOF.
if drasisaitl or mackinnon becomes one of the 25 best players ever, we can have the conversation. until then, no.
Obviously, Gordie Howe is correct for #9 but Bobby Hull should have gotten an honorable mention. Back in the old Chicago Stadium, there was electricity in the air whenever he got the puck. For this video, it's just too bad for Bobby that they both had the same number.