@@Rickdomigreen Nah I don’t think Danny’s all that bad, I just think the stubborn old-head shtick quickly loses its juice in sports-media. For some segments it’s fine but plainly saying, “He’ll never be that” with absolutely no reason to back it up is wasted air. Danny even points out the flaw in what he’s saying and they just kind of… let it wash away. It’s a good show with a good panel, but feels like it hits a ceiling whenever it comes to actually diving into a debate. That said… I wish it was on later in the day and closer to FTF.
Literally. Pat is on the verge of a 3-peat, beats Tom Brady rn in the statistics that they showed, but he doesn't want to admit it because the guys he watched growing up are being put into the background.
That would be correct. Mahomes will etch his own name into the history books. Right now, sure, they compare him to those before him. Once he's achieved whatever he does and retires, everyone else will be striving for Mahomes' status.
Brady and Kobe have more in common. Both won 3 rings early but were not really the main act of the team (Shaq and the pats defense). Jordan and mahomes from day 1 were regarded as either the best in the league or one of the best. And unlike Jordan, who made a finals in his 7th yr; mahomes won a Super Bowl in his 2nd yr starting.
Yeah, everybody wants to discredit Brady because of the defense, but that defense wasn't winning games before Brady took over... Mahomes took over a winning team that was led by Alex Smith, TB12 took over a team in shambles that was 5-13 before him with a coach that everybody thought was gonna get fired and they did score more than 9 points in their SB's🤷♂️
@@DJRavek I don't understand how it's a bad thing to get all the way to the super bowl and then lose, doesn't that beat losing in the wild card or the divisional. Losing in the super bowls better than the bills have ever done
This is reason number 583 that Craig carton is terrible. He is 100% contradictory to his own existence in this career. The reason sports talk exists is because of nuance and because of people being able to make an argument and being able to view things differently saying it so black and white that it's Michael Jordan and Tom Brady is the most one track simple-minded way of doing things and if that's the way you believe Craig, go to another profession and stop trying to make arguments
Carton's comment in regards to his co-hosts comparing Mahomes to Jordan or Brady "sullies their names" is incredibly offensive! He obviously hates Mahomes and is jealous of his greatness! So childish of Carton to act like that!
Mahomes could only get to 5-6 Rings and STILL be the GOAT. NOBODY considers Bill Russell the GOAT over MJ despite having 5 MORE Rings than him. Mahomes is the Best STATISTICAL QB in the History of the game, has the best "Clutch" Metrics in the History of the game, and is winning at the ALL TIME pace in the History of the game. The fact that ANYONE would try to act like this discussion is somehow "insulting" is a joke 😂
Carson is a literal idiot. Mahomes is already, clearly, the best to ever bet do it. Brady is the most successful, but never could dominate the way Mahomes can.
As an immigrant who did not know anything about the game. I became a good fan I watched TB12 starting in 1999. Even though I was a McNabb guy . I like and respect tom Brady game. As current TB12 is the goat 🐐 now do I believe Pat mahommes will surpass him . By the end of Pat mahommes career . I can see a threepeat, I can see a perfect season . I can see him equal TB12 rings . With that being said. If Pat mahommes got 7 SB , a threepeat, a perfect season. He is the goat 🐐
What makes Mahomes "Brady-like" is that he just wins, and wins, and wins. What makes him "Jordanesque" is that he takes over games as an individual player in high-pressure moments, and the opposition knows he's about to do it. Mahomes JUST entered his prime, so no, he hasn't had the career that retired guys have. But just watching the last few years, it's pretty obvious he has elements of both the Jordan AND Brady DNA.
Why doesnt anybody who does this argument mention that brady beat mahomes in a superbowl and in an afc championship game where mahomes was at home and favored? All these shows have a jordan lebron debate , but we can continue that because we never saw them play each other. We ACTUALLY saw mahomes v Brady twice . You cant say mahomes was too young because he was a MVP in one matchup. And in the next matchup , he was already a superbowl champion . Ive watched several networks have this debate and yet no one has mentioned this.
Uncle fester just hates on mahomes. He never has a kind word on mahomes. We all know uncle fester has never touched a ball in his life. Why does he get to criticize an athlete when the only ball he ever touched was his own. Chiefs kingdom
They said this about the steelers play Washington commanders but then after they say not a big deal. They said they couldn't beat the ravens they did. They said the chargers would beat them they didn't put some respect on the steelers name
Losing a SB doesn’t disqualify him? Football is a one and done sport unlike basketball where they have the best of 7 series which means the best team always wins. And losing to Brady in his first 3 years as a starter shouldn’t disqualify him either
If Mahomes wins the Superbowl this year that whole 'count the rings' argument is going to start sounding real shaky. Eight Superbowl titles sounds impossible to match...unless you've got four of them with presumably 10-12 years left to play. Also, 'he can't be Jordan because he lost a Superbowl and Jordan never lost'. Um, Michael Jordan played in the NBA for 17 seasons and won 6 titles (and never lost any of the championships he reached), which means he didn't reach the championships in 11 seasons. I like the logic of not counting all the times he failed to reach the championship as losses. By the same logic Patrick Mahomes would have been better off losing in the AFC Championship against the Bills instead of losing in the Superbowl against the Bucs?
Danny Parker is WRONG again. He said, "The Steelers haven't beaten a top tier division leader," implying Philadelphia has. PHI has played a division leader (TB) AND LOST! They also lost to ATL (Steelers beat them). I believe both teams have played average teams this year (PHI in NFL LEAST), pathetic.
They literally changed a rule because of Patrick Mahomes, let’s stop the nonsense lmaooo they basically said “well if Mahomes gets it first in overtime, the game is basically over, so let’s at least try to give the other team a chance” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why are the f-ing chargers and ravens held in such high regard. But everyone has all these questions about my Steelers!! They gone out week after week and won ball games. I don't get it
I'm sure Craig was a great radio show host at some point. He should go back there. He stinks on TV, especially with the recent pivot away from Skip Bayless-esque stupid conversations to back to smarter programming.
Such a stupid take from Craig. Basketball and football are two totally different sports. Mahomes can't be Jordan because he lost a final? Football is a single elimination sport, if basketball was too Jordan would have lost 2 out of his 6 finales but that doesn't matter because for people like Craig Jordan is the god of everything and the GOAT of all sport for all eternity
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No idea how carton got to Host a TV show. Dudes voice sounds like he hasn’t drank water in weeks, he has horrible takes, he’s completely contradictory and bias, not trying to be toxic but dude is a horrible Sports debater
Craig obviously agrees Mahomes is Brady/Jordan material, but somebody’s gotta be the villain in these things. Every show does it. The problem is Craig puts zero creativity into his side of the argument.
The issue is the LeBron vs Jordan debate is fascinating because it's a hypothetical we never saw them compete against each other. We saw Mahomes vs Brady 2x in the playoffs and an old Tom Brady outplayed him.
Nope... Mahomes VASTLY outplayed Brady in their 1st AFC Championship matchup, with Brady only coming out on top due to a bogus penalty that wiped away his game sealing INT. Their SB matchup was tainted by the fact Mahomes was down 4/5 Starting OL. Brady would've been carted off the field by the end of the 1st Qtr playing behind that OL. KC beat Brady earlier that VERY Season and would've done the same in the SB minus Mahomes being stuck behind a JV OL. Sounds like excuses but it's actually contextual fact 🤔
@ uh Bron is the goat so not sure what ur talking about. Mahomes is already the best ever he just has to accomplish more to catch Brady ina goat discussion. He has had the highest peak of any player ever
@@kevinj.8257lebron is already the goat with 4 rings. Jordan on these cavs and heat teams would maybe have 1 ring. Dude played with healthy hall of famers his entire career. LeBron has done more with less
Carton new show sucks breakfast balls lol dumb name need to change this shiw back to the carton show let him host it have dudes on it the funny white dude us ok but the bronco guy bring him in once in a while not all the time this show just tanking since theyve b Changed it and yea carton is a bit of a hater but its cool
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I love how many Patriots fans are sweating over Mahomes and the Chiefs success.
very true
Oh yeah they're already getting pissy about it
It's very true it's pretty funny
So true. He’s 29 only.
How Danny wakes up every morning to work with Craig is incredible. Truly inspirational levels of patience.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Craig is awesome
@@Rickdomigreen Nah I don’t think Danny’s all that bad, I just think the stubborn old-head shtick quickly loses its juice in sports-media. For some segments it’s fine but plainly saying, “He’ll never be that” with absolutely no reason to back it up is wasted air. Danny even points out the flaw in what he’s saying and they just kind of… let it wash away. It’s a good show with a good panel, but feels like it hits a ceiling whenever it comes to actually diving into a debate. That said… I wish it was on later in the day and closer to FTF.
Craig is mostly a clown character for the show. He’s the bluster personality. I don’t love having bluster for bluster sake.
Carton: “he’s not Tom Brady, He’s not Jordan” Also Carton *0 evidence and argument* old heads are annoying, and I’m a Brady guy
Literally. Pat is on the verge of a 3-peat, beats Tom Brady rn in the statistics that they showed, but he doesn't want to admit it because the guys he watched growing up are being put into the background.
BRADY AND BILL B. ARE ESTABLISHED, MULTIPLE INCIDENCE CHEATERS. They do NOT deserve to be held in high esteem.
Why expect more from a Jets fan. He obviously lacks logic
That would be correct. Mahomes will etch his own name into the history books. Right now, sure, they compare him to those before him. Once he's achieved whatever he does and retires, everyone else will be striving for Mahomes' status.
Carton: "I'm a whiney Jets fan so I don't know anything about good quarterbacking"
Patrick is a top 4 QB of all time.
Man. They remove Carton from this show and you’ll have a great morning show!
How is Carton still on tv?
It’s gotta be some lame contract they have with him where they can’t move on without paying him.
Brady and Kobe have more in common. Both won 3 rings early but were not really the main act of the team (Shaq and the pats defense).
Jordan and mahomes from day 1 were regarded as either the best in the league or one of the best. And unlike Jordan, who made a finals in his 7th yr; mahomes won a Super Bowl in his 2nd yr starting.
Yeah, everybody wants to discredit Brady because of the defense, but that defense wasn't winning games before Brady took over... Mahomes took over a winning team that was led by Alex Smith, TB12 took over a team in shambles that was 5-13 before him with a coach that everybody thought was gonna get fired and they did score more than 9 points in their SB's🤷♂️
@ bro in his first playoff run he threw 1 Td the entire run…. It’s ok to admit the top 5 defense was the most important part of the team.
@@obarbeitothis entire part. And didn't he throw zero TD in the last SB t one of them? How did he earn the MVP?
Losing a SB doesn't remove him from being an MJ
Yeah, that was a dumb take.
@@DJRavek I don't understand how it's a bad thing to get all the way to the super bowl and then lose, doesn't that beat losing in the wild card or the divisional. Losing in the super bowls better than the bills have ever done
Carton makes himself look so pathetic when he acts like that.
i thought the question was "is he on his way" not "is he there"
Correct. Baldy is an irrational scab
This is reason number 583 that Craig carton is terrible. He is 100% contradictory to his own existence in this career. The reason sports talk exists is because of nuance and because of people being able to make an argument and being able to view things differently saying it so black and white that it's Michael Jordan and Tom Brady is the most one track simple-minded way of doing things and if that's the way you believe Craig, go to another profession and stop trying to make arguments
DUSTY!!!! GET THE BOARD!!! - Nick Wright somewhere lol
Craig just kept repeating the same thing without actually explaining why lol
he's made a career off that
If mahomes gets 5 and retires in half the time as Brady, how could you say Brady was better?
If Mahomes and the Chiefs win 3 in a row, then Mahomes is definitely in the same conversation as Brady.
Carton's comment in regards to his co-hosts comparing Mahomes to Jordan or Brady "sullies their names" is incredibly offensive! He obviously hates Mahomes and is jealous of his greatness! So childish of Carton to act like that!
Craig is nothing but a pure hater oh Mahomes. Him and Rob Parker just scream for Patrick to get off their lawn
With his argument, Joe Montana is Michael Jordan since he didn’t lose any. That’s not even a sensible argument.
@ not at all
Mahomes could only get to 5-6 Rings and STILL be the GOAT. NOBODY considers Bill Russell the GOAT over MJ despite having 5 MORE Rings than him. Mahomes is the Best STATISTICAL QB in the History of the game, has the best "Clutch" Metrics in the History of the game, and is winning at the ALL TIME pace in the History of the game. The fact that ANYONE would try to act like this discussion is somehow "insulting" is a joke 😂
The ravens all of the sudden isn’t a Tier 1 win
Any thing to deny how good the Steelers are, 😂😂😂😂😂
That’s nerd is clueless. 😊😊😊
Carson is a literal idiot. Mahomes is already, clearly, the best to ever bet do it.
Brady is the most successful, but never could dominate the way Mahomes can.
Saying pat is Kobe is an insult to pat
Carton of spoiled milk. Yikes
As an immigrant who did not know anything about the game. I became a good fan I watched TB12 starting in 1999. Even though I was a McNabb guy . I like and respect tom Brady game. As current TB12 is the goat 🐐 now do I believe Pat mahommes will surpass him . By the end of Pat mahommes career . I can see a threepeat, I can see a perfect season . I can see him equal TB12 rings . With that being said. If Pat mahommes got 7 SB , a threepeat, a perfect season. He is the goat 🐐
Bald dude better watch the insults towards Stink
L discussion, wait until he's done
What makes Mahomes "Brady-like" is that he just wins, and wins, and wins. What makes him "Jordanesque" is that he takes over games as an individual player in high-pressure moments, and the opposition knows he's about to do it. Mahomes JUST entered his prime, so no, he hasn't had the career that retired guys have. But just watching the last few years, it's pretty obvious he has elements of both the Jordan AND Brady DNA.
This show is fun, good banter, not just horrible opinions looking for clickbait.
Why doesnt anybody who does this argument mention that brady beat mahomes in a superbowl and in an afc championship game where mahomes was at home and favored? All these shows have a jordan lebron debate , but we can continue that because we never saw them play each other. We ACTUALLY saw mahomes v Brady twice . You cant say mahomes was too young because he was a MVP in one matchup. And in the next matchup , he was already a superbowl champion . Ive watched several networks have this debate and yet no one has mentioned this.
Absolute insult to Mahomes calling him Kobe.
Every win is a top tier win in the NFL!!
Imagine having a league of 32 teams for everyone in the sports media landscape to only talk about 7 teams tops... wild
Uncle fester just hates on mahomes. He never has a kind word on mahomes. We all know uncle fester has never touched a ball in his life. Why does he get to criticize an athlete when the only ball he ever touched was his own. Chiefs kingdom
They said this about the steelers play Washington commanders but then after they say not a big deal. They said they couldn't beat the ravens they did. They said the chargers would beat them they didn't put some respect on the steelers name
He doesn’t have to win 8 super bowls to overtake Goat status!!!💯
Losing a SB doesn’t disqualify him? Football is a one and done sport unlike basketball where they have the best of 7 series which means the best team always wins. And losing to Brady in his first 3 years as a starter shouldn’t disqualify him either
Kobe, Jordan and Brady.....the difference is likeability, we loved them all....but Hahommes? No
Discount McAffee also said the Jets would win the Super Bowl. Mahomes will certainly get 9 rings now 😂
Mahommes isn't getting to Jordan's level of fame. Brady isn't even on Jordan's level of fame. Jordan's level is more like Messi and Tiger.
you can tell craig hates lebron from this discussion. L
If Mahomes wins the Superbowl this year that whole 'count the rings' argument is going to start sounding real shaky. Eight Superbowl titles sounds impossible to match...unless you've got four of them with presumably 10-12 years left to play.
Also, 'he can't be Jordan because he lost a Superbowl and Jordan never lost'. Um, Michael Jordan played in the NBA for 17 seasons and won 6 titles (and never lost any of the championships he reached), which means he didn't reach the championships in 11 seasons. I like the logic of not counting all the times he failed to reach the championship as losses. By the same logic Patrick Mahomes would have been better off losing in the AFC Championship against the Bills instead of losing in the Superbowl against the Bucs?
Danny Parker is WRONG again. He said, "The Steelers haven't beaten a top tier division leader," implying Philadelphia has. PHI has played a division leader (TB) AND LOST! They also lost to ATL (Steelers beat them). I believe both teams have played average teams this year (PHI in NFL LEAST), pathetic.
They literally changed a rule because of Patrick Mahomes, let’s stop the nonsense lmaooo they basically said “well if Mahomes gets it first in overtime, the game is basically over, so let’s at least try to give the other team a chance” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LOL. You can warm a house with the hate….
Love seeing it.
Mahomes is on his way to Joe Montana status. Tom Brady he got to get at least five to be in a conversation with Brady
Why are the f-ing chargers and ravens held in such high regard. But everyone has all these questions about my Steelers!! They gone out week after week and won ball games. I don't get it
Craig just chatting, I'm aware that's his job, but this was a genuinely stupid take on his part.
Lost head to head to Tom can’t erase that
I'm sure Craig was a great radio show host at some point. He should go back there. He stinks on TV, especially with the recent pivot away from Skip Bayless-esque stupid conversations to back to smarter programming.
Carton and Parkins how is the show not the number one show?
Carton and Parkins. Stink is the best thing the show has.
What about Jerry rice?
KC has only won by one score many time including the Pathers😂
Who'd the eagles beat?
I think something thats going against mahomes is brady beat him in the superbowl
Eli beat Brady twice
Foles beat Brady.
(And Brady got caught cheating multiple times)
Such a stupid take from Craig. Basketball and football are two totally different sports. Mahomes can't be Jordan because he lost a final? Football is a single elimination sport, if basketball was too Jordan would have lost 2 out of his 6 finales but that doesn't matter because for people like Craig Jordan is the god of everything and the GOAT of all sport for all eternity
Mahomes is better than Jordan
Craig is a dip just jealous of 15 always has been,Shouldn't worry about some so bad they lost their show. LOL used to called Carlton again LOL LOL
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No idea how carton got to
Host a TV show. Dudes voice sounds like he hasn’t drank water in weeks, he has horrible takes, he’s completely contradictory and bias, not trying to be toxic but dude is a horrible Sports debater
Craig obviously agrees Mahomes is Brady/Jordan material, but somebody’s gotta be the villain in these things. Every show does it. The problem is Craig puts zero creativity into his side of the argument.
Thank You Craig thank you he ain't MICHEAL JORDAN, and he's not TOM BRADY
The issue is the LeBron vs Jordan debate is fascinating because it's a hypothetical we never saw them compete against each other. We saw Mahomes vs Brady 2x in the playoffs and an old Tom Brady outplayed him.
Mahomes was young ASF then
Nope... Mahomes VASTLY outplayed Brady in their 1st AFC Championship matchup, with Brady only coming out on top due to a bogus penalty that wiped away his game sealing INT. Their SB matchup was tainted by the fact Mahomes was down 4/5 Starting OL. Brady would've been carted off the field by the end of the 1st Qtr playing behind that OL. KC beat Brady earlier that VERY Season and would've done the same in the SB minus Mahomes being stuck behind a JV OL. Sounds like excuses but it's actually contextual fact 🤔
Jordan and Brady didn't play almost full two seasons of medicore play.
me when I lie
I think it’s your nap time buddy
Top tier 🤡
Russian bot levels of trolling
two full back to back seasons no they didn’t… or two straight years in their “prime” i think is what you mean
Mahomes will never top Brady no matter how many records he breaks
@@kevinj.8257 so if he breaks every single record ever he’s still not better😂
Well that’s just dumb on its face
@ Mahomes will be like lebron James is to Michael Jordan. Breaks all the records but many consider him not to be the best.
@ uh Bron is the goat so not sure what ur talking about. Mahomes is already the best ever he just has to accomplish more to catch Brady ina goat discussion. He has had the highest peak of any player ever
@@kevinj.8257lebron is already the goat with 4 rings. Jordan on these cavs and heat teams would maybe have 1 ring. Dude played with healthy hall of famers his entire career. LeBron has done more with less
Carton new show sucks breakfast balls lol dumb name need to change this shiw back to the carton show let him host it have dudes on it the funny white dude us ok but the bronco guy bring him in once in a while not all the time this show just tanking since theyve b
Changed it and yea carton is a bit of a hater but its cool
Patty mahoboy mvp15 💪🫡💯