Just watched the series Patrick & think your hoop house design is one of the best I've seen. Am sure this series will help a lot of folks out as you were very thorough 👍 Cheers mate & all the best.
+OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening Really good Patrick. Thanks for asking. The funny thing is that I rush to get it done. Now we have 60-70 degree day temps. I cut my cost in half, have 2 doors now. Video soon. My price will be around 495.95
good one Patrick! people with time and determination can build whatever they desire if they have a little cash. Rescuing waste materials can slash costs even further. I hope to see how the structure and the ones inside move your crops ever southward this winter! thanks for sharing!
Hello Patrick, when you have a moment can you take 2 soil temps for me in your greenhouse early in the morning within a hour after sunrise. The first soil temp taken would be in you wood chip path way in the GH soil. Second one would be in your raised bed soil. Either side is fine, Thank You in advance...
+iamnjorganic The only thermometer I have that might work is a long compost thermometer. Do you think that would work? Or would all the exposed metal skew the results?
+iamnjorganic Okay, I'll give it a try. So, to make sure I understand, you want 2 temps from inside the hoop house: one in the walkway and one under a cold frame or low tunnel?
Loved this series. I covered my poly greenhouse in 6mil plastic and I have a cold frame inside, too. Last week I planted mache seeds and they have germinated which is exciting, considering I live in Canada.
Great job, I keep the plastic on mine all summer long. I vented both gable ends quite a bit to keep the heat down, but was able to grow tomatoes to October 24 zone 5, at which time it was too cold in my unheated hoop. I currently am growing all cold hardy greens and brassicas, despite the below freezing temps. This type of growing is heavily dependent on the sun. Here is hoping for a few more sunny days then last year.
+motocephalic That's great! I'm glad to hear you're having great success with your hoop house. If these warmer than normal temps hold up, we'll have our best winter garden ever. We haven't lost any of our protected plants to the cold yet. So far, I think our lowest temp was 15 degrees F.
Looks really nice, sturdy and clean. I'd use PP/PE pipes instead of PVC as those doesn't break down so rapidly under UV and have no toxic residue released while "aging" under the sun. Also shouldn't react with sheet as it is same material group. I must say I'm really impressed with final result. Keep it up! Best wishes from Poland.
Str8-Up-NO LIES, that was THE BEST put 2gether TH-cam clip I've ever seen, PROPS !! And 4The style of the frame and how it all came 2gether, 4Sure that's a strong back bone of a blueprint .Good job.
+Jeb Gardener That's a great suggestion. A Gothic arch top could be achieved if using metal pipe for the hoops. So far, this design is shedding snow fairly well. We'll see how it does when we get a heavy snow.
I'm considering using a 90 degree elbow to join 2 sections of pvc for a gothic arch as I'm up in canada and snow and cold big prob. I'm thinking the sides will want to bow out, where the hoop type stays sturdier kinda cuz its under tension...idk.
+High Desert Garden (Phillip) Yes, the veggies are still growing surprisingly well. We've had very warm weather so far. I don't plan to do anything more to heat the hoop house, but am always open to new ideas.
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One note of our experience about 30 years ago in Canada. We built a large greenhouse using 1" class 200 PVC (thin walled). We should have used schedule 40. Anyway as a warning, it stood up for some time but was weakened by the sun then shattered into pieces by the cold. Yours may avoid this with the 2x4 supports but PVC does degrade in the sun and does shatter from frost. All our greenhouses subsequently were made of wood and or metal.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Tim! We've used schedule 40 PVC for 10 years without any issues. We're still using 10 year old pipes in our low tunnels and they're as strong as ever. I wonder if you have more extreme cold than we do? We're in Chicago (zone 5).
Yes schedule 40 definitely helps and the smaller frames have a lower stress ratio. It was spectacular the day our structure came down. It was not super cold but there was a lot of moisture around.
very nice . I enjoy your channel. love the green house. Here in zone 2 by the time we clean up from last year's growing season it's time to start again.
+Jennifer Brown Hi Jennifer. Unfortunately, this part of the yard doesn't get enough sun in the summer to grow summer crops, so we're stuck with growing greens there. We'll remove the top plastic only this spring to keep the greens from overheating.
Great video fellow green thumb. I love the start letting ol mister whiskers in. My 18 year old cat passed on a few months before I finished my hoophouse, he would have loved it in there. My old pup( 16 yr old Rat Terrier) loves to go in the house and sleep in his bed!
+J Barksdale Thanks! I'm sorry to hear about the passing of your old feline friend. We had 2 cats pass away a few years ago that were both in their early 20's. It was tough to lose them. I'm glad to hear you're Terrier enjoys gardening too!
@Oneyardrevolution Patrick, your clever. I like your greenhouse. I often thought about growing tomatoes during our winter in Z8. A rocket mass heater could be piped thru the circumference, to warm the soil.
+Sabine RiverAuthority Thanks, Nelson! Are you already growing cold hardy crops? There's so much you can grow in zone 8 during the winter without having to use a heater.
+OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening Yes Patrick, broccoli, cabbage, spinach etc.. I do still have peppers standing since the spring. When i put a shot of worm juice in the watering can, the peppers flower again. Id like to know whats in the liquid I'm collecting from the worm bin, whatever is in it, its great fertilizer. Im 100% organic now that I'm following your method of no dig, no chemicals soil. , ,
Nice work! Can you elaborate on the "garden safe pressure treated" lumber? What is it treated with? I really don't like the idea of using treated lumber but maybe there's a non-toxic alternative I don't know about. Thanks!
+Paul Ladendorf Hi Paul. The lumber I used is treated with the MCQ method, which is the standard method used today. The manufacturer certifies that their wood is safe for raised beds. This method can lead to some copper leaching into the soil, but unlike the old CCA, arsenic isn't used in the treatment process. I'm not concerned about the copper, but the wood is also treated with an antimicrobial treatment, which is why I prefer to not use it in contact with the soil. I'm not sure if this is something I really need to be concerned about, but I wanted to play it safe.
Excellent build and wow the price was so low ! I suspect in Canada to build the same thing would be 50% more. I look forward to see how you do this winter !
+Alberta Urban Garden Simple Organic and Sustainable Thanks, Stephen! Yeah, it does seem like we have lower prices on a lot of items here. Are you still planning on building something?
Patrick yes ill be building a smaller one to fit over a raised bed much like a low tunnel but I will try in the structure to get the double layer of glass.
Great disign. I'm planing to make similar hoop house probably with cattle panel this year. I saw a lot of hoop houses without roll up system on the sides. Isn't there too hot in the summer without open sides in hoop house like that?
Awesome build Patrick, I love the layout and the time you took to be so thorough with the instructions. Towards the end of this one, I must admit I started daydreaming, wondering what sort of gains in growth would be achieved with a single 1K hps lamp on a mover running for 4hrs per day.
+Poppy B. Thanks! Artificial light would probably help, but we want to keep things as low tech and low cost as possible. Growth will slow down quite a bit in January but pick pack up in late February.
+ariesred777 The difference would be very small. If you went with with EMT electrical conduit instead of PVC, the price would be pretty much the same. You'd have to get a bender, but you wouldn't need the rebar (or the extra conduit I put under the PVC). Adding an extra hoop would add maybe $10.
Great Patrick! It looks so nice and symmetrical! I was going to ask you if you were going to take it down during the warmer season but you answered that below! How exciting to have late winter and early spring salad mix! :)
I like the idea of a hoop house I just wish it was easier to store come summer. Space is at a premium where I live so I may research something a bit more collapsible yet still diy.
Thanks! The hoop house is in it's 3rd winter and I haven't had to make any repairs or modifications other than patching the plastic when fallen tree branches punctured it. If you live in an area that gets heavy snow, you might want to consider using metal pipes instead of PVC. We're in Chicago and get, on average, about 3 feet of snow per year. The PVC works great here.
Looks really good, and definitely would be within many peoples budgets and possibly skill level. I'm sure that this video will inspire or convince many to try something similar. Compared to something like a Harbor Freight greenhouse, I think you went in a better direction. I really look forward to seeing how well it works. I'm pretty sure you will be monitoring the temperature difference between cold frame, hoop house and outside. I'm pondering building something too but I'm leaning more towards a wood framed greenhouse with removeable roof panels to better handle the large snowloads we get in Toronto in some winters, also to allow the possibility of a higher roof within a small space, as well as perhaps being able to treat it as a more permanent structure with electricity, lighting and other features. Did you ever consider going down the route of building a non-hoop design?
+MrChipGardener Thanks! Yes, I hope to share max and min temps over the course of several days in the different microclimates. If I was able to collect enough glass doors and large windows, I would consider building a greenhouse using these materials. This approach might even be cheaper than my hoop house. Other than that, this is pretty much the design I've had in mind. Best wishes with your greenhouse. I'm sure you'll love having it during your Toronto winters!
Hi! We are planning to build a sustainable garden high hoop. I am skeptic about those PVC pipes. Don't they get really brittle from sun, snow and temperature differences? We want ours to be 4m wide and 6m long which would be 13 ft wide and 20 ft long... The height we wish is 2,2m which is more then 7 ft...
Hi Jessica! We've used schedule 40 PVC on our relatively small structures for over a decade and have never had a pipe fail, and we're still using the first pipes we bought. However, with a structure the size of the one you want to build, I'd recommend using metal pipes, especially if you get a lot of snow.
It took me longer than necessary to build this because I filmed the whole process. If I wasn't filming, I could have finished it over a couple weekends. This video shows how I built it: th-cam.com/video/4_yga1KPA5M/w-d-xo.html
Great video. Are you concerned at all about moisture and air flow in the winter when you have it closed off? I had a bunch of indoor plants in a single room that got a bit moldy.
+ReyReyloads Thanks! We've never had a problem with mold in our cold frames and low tunnels, which we've used for many years. I suspect the reason is that it's too cold for mold to thrive during the winter. We probably would have a problem with mold if we heated the hoop house. It gets very cold at night, even in protected areas.
Hi Patrick, I wanted to ask, where did you get the white wire rack in the back behind you in the corner? I've been looking into solid grids like that because I have major rodent/pest issues in my yard and my tulip bulbs etc get eaten every year. I'm thinking about growing sunchokes (mainly because you seem to highly endorse them), but I don't want squirrels digging them up. Do you think that rack would be safe to sink below the soil surface (for aesthetic reasons) or would the metal inside begin to rust and rot/etc?
Very nice job man. Nice low cost! Youve got me thinking now. Was about to buy a earth care 7 x 10 polycarbonate for 800$ but for what yours is just as nice
It depends on how much snow you get where you live. We get less than 3' of snow in winter. If you get more than than, you probably want to use metal hoops.
I know, your a gardener, so this may not matter. So how much mixed greens could you buy for $310. The greens you will get throughout the winter, how long until you make up for the $310 expense. Just curious. I like your hoop house.
+Double Dog Farm Thanks, Eric! That's a great question. I wish I had the discipline to record our harvests to determine how much we save on groceries. Since I don't, I'll just guess. First, I should also point out that we'll not only have greens during fall and winter, but we'll have an explosion of growth in late winter and early spring, giving us very large harvests much earlier than we would otherwise have. Given our local organic grocer is Whole Foods, which is very expensive and sells sorrel for $2.99 for 2/3 ounce, my best guess is that we'd recoup our costs in the first one or two years.
+Double Dog Farm The journey matters, not just the destination! I doubt I will ever recoup what I've spent on my own small garden in terms of produce value (although I have also increased the value of my home IMO) but just as pointless would be putting a dollar value on your labour for what is a hobby that gives you a lot of joy. The fresh veg is almost just a bonus! Patrick will also be able to start a lot of his warm season crops earlier. I admire his work ethic though - it's enough hassle for me to assemble/disassemble a few of of those cheap stand up greenhouses at the start and end of the cold season. I couldn't imagine putting that up and taking it down every year. If I ever do get a large property I'll have a permanent greenhouse with plenty of venting.
+Darkfalz79 I must have given the wrong impression. I plan to keep the framing entirely intact year round. I'll also keep the plastic on the end walls. In the spring, I'll only remove the plastic that covers the hoops. This will only take about 15 minutes. It would be even easier with Wiggle Wire, but it's not much of a hassle with my current setup. It'll be much easier than dissembling stand up greenhouses.
Isn't there a conflict with PVC pipe and greenhouse film? The two plastics do not work well together. The greenhouse film I've bought says the guarantee is void if used with PVC. Electric conduit would have been a better choice.
+Mario Postini Hi Mario. You can resolve this issue by covering the PVC with tape where it comes into contact with greenhouse film. Greenhousemegastore sells a felt tape for this purpose. We used white Gorilla Tape.
Wow Patrick, 300 bucks isn't bad at all considering how well built that green house is. Honestly, I would hate taking that plastic off as you did such a good job getting it nice and tight, but I guess it would just get too hot in there in the summer. I have to say I am quite jealous, I would love to have a nice greenhouse/hoop house, but I think my lack of sun in winter would make it not worth the effort.
+Bryan Wickizer Thanks, Bryan! I'll be leaving the plastic on the end walls and removing it from over the hoops only. It's not as bad as it sounds. It shouldn't take more than about 15 minutes to remove and maybe 30 to 45 to put back on in the fall.
We've had it for 4 winters now and haven't had to make any repairs to the structure. With maintenance, I expect it to last the rest of my life. We'll replace the plastic every 8 to 10 years.
I also live in zone 5, Saint John NB, and have always wanted a hoop house but the snow falls we get here have discouraged me from even attempting it. Did u have to do a lot of snow removal to keep it from crushing the sides in on itself?
Hi Greg. The hoop house sheds snow fairly well. You could make one with steeper sides to shed snow even better. My approach was to brush off the snow with a broom in the morning and evening when it was snowing to keep too much snow from accumulating. We didn't get nearly enough snow last winter to threaten the structural integrity of the hoop house.
OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening true this past winter we had very little snow. But if we had just a little more where the volume sliding off the top could have made rather large piles on the side wall areas. Shoveling this away could be a full time job. I don't think any amount of shoveling could save a hoop house with the amount of snow we had 2 years ago. My entire back yard (including Garden area) had 12ft of snow covering. Cannot shovel that.
Wow, that's a lot of snow! 3 feet is a lot for us in the backyard. I don't foresee it getting to the point where it's not manageable, but 12 feet is another story. Our hoop house is also small (13' x 9 '), which makes the job easier.
+probablystalkingyou Funny you should ask because we had wind gusts of 50 mph after I covered the end walls and it didn't affect them at all. We do have lots of wind blocks here, so if you live in a very open area, the wind will definitely be more of a factor. But I'm confident it will handle the winds here in Chicago.
+Maria Hurley We used $65.93 worth of plastic, so that's just $9.42 per year if it lasts 7 years. In reality, we'll continue to use the plastic for years beyond that to cover compost piles, protect plants from frost, etc. I expect the hoop house frame to last longer than 10 years with minimal repairs.
Hi Patrick. Thank you so much for the videos! I've learned a lot from you am I'm trying a lot of your ideas this year, including building my first hoop house! I've started tomato and peppers inside and can't wait to move them outside. Although I live in zone 8, we are still getting some cold nights (low 40s). Unfortunately, our (small) greenhouse / (large) hoop house isn't warmer than the outside temp. We used a lot of the same materials you have, including greenhouse plastic. Any thoughts as to why it is not heating?
Nope. Full sun. I plan to add a hoop house inside the greenhouse in a few days, but it seems like the greenhouse should hold heat (it was in the low 80s two days ago).
Are you saying the nighttime temps in the hoop house aren't warmer than the outside temp? Surely it's much warmer in the hoop house during the day, especially when it's sunny. Our hoop house routinely gets as warm as 80 degrees on sunny days that are well below freezing.
Perplexing isn't it? It's only about 10 degrees different in the day and about after an hour sunset, the same temp as outside. We even added tarps to the bottom to make sue the air wasn't escaping that way. I'll keep problem solving and let you know how it turns out!
I like it! Mine was fairly simpler I think but not as well built. i was trying to make it where I could roll up the sides. It gets warm here in the winter off and on in central Oklahoma. I have to have a way to vent. Maybe have top vents that open up on the ends like Elliot Colemans. That might be easier for me but great job. Looks great and very functional. The doors I made were double wide. I got the whole idea from "How to build My 50 Dollar Greenhouse". Too much wind for wide doors like that here. I did modified it with wiggle wire in the past when it was going and I thought it held fine even with the wind gusts we get here. I used 1" and 2 1/2" pipe to do it which is overkill since we don't always get snow but we do get ice so maybe not. I still like your design much better though. Keep it up!
+CW Thanks! It served us very well over the winter. With all the fences, buildings, and trees around our yard, wind isn't too bad. I might add temporary supports when we're expecting huge snowfalls.
$313.42 is amazingly cheap when you think about all the fresh veggies you're gonna harvest year round. Not only that you'll have more space to start your seedlings for next years crop. Well done : )
Paul and I just watched this. Nice going Patrick. Your work is so neat and methodical. And you make all seem so easy to do. Maybe recommend to your audience to check habitat for humanity stores that sell discount surplus building materials to save on cost. Or, maybe subgroups can form online??? and buy in bulk...the OYR group rate for plastic et al hahahahaah... have you considered adding biomass(manure, compost pile/water barrels to add heat?
+Suzanne Ramoundos Thanks! Given the limited space, I decided against adding compost or heat sinks. I'm following the Eliot Coleman technique of 2 layers of protection instead.
PVC is not UV stable and will become brittle over a season or two. Easiest way to get more years out of it is to paint it. Also worth considering: even in winter hoop houses can get real hot, real fast. a vent of some kind will greatly help regulate temperature and humidity, and do so much smoother than opening the door.
+macrossactual We've used PVC for low tunnels for nearly a decade without any noticeable deterioration. I may install a window with an automated opener next year. Thanks for the suggestions!
The lumber cost $102.26. This spreadsheet shows the costs: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vp4yrcNq6DF7RQtTQ7mU6E1_sDwFSZi63JQWhvyljX4/edit?usp=sharing
Well, that bed sure got a lot of love this year, didn't it? :-) I like what you've done and enjoyed following it. I did think to myself, that it will be a royal pain when you want to remove the plastic in the Spring.
Right now, it is a heck of a lot better than my greenhouse which the wind took down. With the floor, I have $3000 into mine. It is going to cost a few bucks again to replace the damaged parts.
OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening I am going to turn it 180 degrees so that the prevailing wind hit on the backside. I also know what caused the failure. With a redesign and modification to two parts, I can prevent the problem that caused the initial failure from happening again. I might also erect a small wind break on the west side to cut the wind. If I get winds stronger than 70 mph that took it out, then I will be rebuilding it again. I bought a 8x6 Shelter Logic greenhouse to set up initially next spring. I will wait until it warms up good before I reconstruct the Grandio Greenhouse.
how are you doing patrick i have been have some problems with my plants i think i may need a shade house the sun seems to be beating them bad and they are plants that ask for full sun even my peppers are crying
+just trying to grow some food I'm well! How have you been? One long term solution would be to grow some perennial fruit trees that do well in your area. You could then grow in their shade.
i am good i have been looking into that because i want to grow fruit trees but when i tryed to get some they tell me what i want can grow here in the bahamas
just trying to grow some food I recommend only growing fruit that is known to grow well in the Bahamas. Some great choices are: Avocado, Banana, Coconut, Grapefruit, Persian Lime, Mango, Orange, Pineapple, Scarlet Plum and Sour Orange.
+just trying to grow some food Great! I think the most important thing to remember is to grow crops that are known to grow well in the Bahamas. You really have some amazing choices there! I'm jealous!
That is a great investment Patrick, shouldn't be long to leverage (not sure of the term, but to get your moneys worth in fresh veggies is what I mean), I won't say anything about the Canadian dollar :-D
+Elyse Joseph Thanks, Elyse! You're right; it won't take long to make our money back in fresh produce. So far, the weather has been so mild, we haven't lost any of the protected plants to the cold.
Your greenhouse plastic is going to deteriorate where the pvc touches it. The UV rays will gas the pvc and chlorine gas will damage and break down the plastic. You have to paint the pvc with non mildew additive latex paint. I painted mine before skinning it. Try pipe insulator slipped under it to stop the contact. I used 1 inch conduit for my hoops and still painted it, it was gas off too when exposed to UV light i.e. SUN.
Nice one Patrick! First video of yours I've seen for a bit now and hope you're keeping well. I'm now focussing on a character who attends meetings of Narcotics Anonymous I also go to Patrick. Yesterday at such a meeting he made me feel uncomfortable in what was a premeditated attack and, whereas in the past when such has happened, I've run away and failed to deal with the situation, this time I intend to stand up to the bugger. I'm a very sensitive soul as you know Patrick and an easy prey for a bully. I would be deeply touched if you'd spare me a thought as I attempt to deal with this more assertively. Cheers!
+Michael Ball Thanks, Michael! I think you'll find that most bullies are nothing but hot air. Just be careful not to escalate a situation that could lead to violence. You're in my thoughts.
Thank you Patrick, I appreciate your advice and thoughts. It seems important for me to share my account openly with the group (possibly tonight) without naming him so that he knows that I am not prepared to remain silent about the matter. I have been in this situation before, kept the matter to myself and this seems to have granted the bully sanction to increase his/ her level of intrusion until the point where I've had enough and simply run away. Fingers crossed eh.
+Zerkbern This part of the garden gets very little sun during the summer, which is okay for our cold hardy crops but not for summer crops. The bed is also populated almost entirely by cold hardy perennials and self-sowing annuals. Many of them have been growing there for nearly a decade. Planting summer crops wouldn't yield results and would disrupt the self-sowing process.
+Zerkbern I'll only be removing the top plastic in the spring, which shouldn't take more than about 15 minutes. This is something I took into consideration when designing the hoop house, and removing the top won't be much of a hassle, even without the wiggle wire.
I'm in zone 5 as well...do u believe raised beds are necessary? Or is it possible to build one directly over my garden beds...you have certainly inspired me! Thank you!
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+Keenen Watts One great way to extend the growing season on a budget is to build cold frame from salvaged wood and windows. They can often be built for free and they're very effective.
Just watched the series Patrick & think your hoop house design is one of the best I've seen. Am sure this series will help a lot of folks out as you were very thorough 👍
Cheers mate & all the best.
+RobBobs Backyard Farming Thanks, Rob! I'm glad you liked the series!
@@OneYardRevolution the pipe you used was 20ft?
Nice work. When I get to a place I can build I am going to use 1 inch PVC at 2 foot spacing.
+Gary Pilarchik (The Rusted Garden) Thanks, Gary! I think a 2 foot spacing with 1" pipe makes a lot of sense.
Your Hoop House /Greenhouse is GREAT and so is the Price. It will be such a pleasure to get good greens in the winter...
+iamnjorganic Thanks, Mark! How is yours working out?
+OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening Really good Patrick. Thanks for asking. The funny thing is that I rush to get it done. Now we have 60-70 degree day temps. I cut my cost in half, have 2 doors now. Video soon. My price will be around 495.95
+iamnjorganic I look forward to seeing your greenhouse in action! Yeah, we've had unseasonably warm weather too.
Nice work Patrick. I love how you took the time to explain the costs and the possible design changes. Your videos are always top notch!
+Blake “Daddykirbs” Kirby Thanks, Blake!
Very nice Patrick! It looks very professional.
+Rainbow Gardens Thanks, Donna!
good one Patrick! people with time and determination can build whatever they desire if they have a little cash. Rescuing waste materials can slash costs even further. I hope to see how the structure and the ones inside move your crops ever southward this winter! thanks for sharing!
+1mtstewart Thanks! I hope to provide updates to show how well the various crops do between now and spring.
Hello Patrick, when you have a moment can you take 2 soil temps for me in your greenhouse early in the morning within a hour after sunrise. The first soil temp taken would be in you wood chip path way in the GH soil. Second one would be in your raised bed soil. Either side is fine, Thank You in advance...
+iamnjorganic The only thermometer I have that might work is a long compost thermometer. Do you think that would work? Or would all the exposed metal skew the results?
+OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening Thanks for asking. That will work great, just the first 2 inch senses temp. Thanks Again
I called reotemp in CA, I was wrong,( first time this year lol ) it is the first 10"on a 36" stem. See what you can do...Thanks
+iamnjorganic Okay, I'll give it a try. So, to make sure I understand, you want 2 temps from inside the hoop house: one in the walkway and one under a cold frame or low tunnel?
Yes, Thank You.
Loved this series. I covered my poly greenhouse in 6mil plastic and I have a cold frame inside, too. Last week I planted mache seeds and they have germinated which is exciting, considering I live in Canada.
+Paula Beattie Thanks, Paula! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Your mache should do very well.
Very inspiring videos. I'm a beginner gardener and your videos have helped me quite a bit.
+al gonz Thanks, Al! I'm glad you've found my videos helpful.
Thanks for taking the time to share your wisdom Pat. I appreciate it!
You're welcome, Jeremy!
Great job, I keep the plastic on mine all summer long. I vented both gable ends quite a bit to keep the heat down, but was able to grow tomatoes to October 24 zone 5, at which time it was too cold in my unheated hoop. I currently am growing all cold hardy greens and brassicas, despite the below freezing temps. This type of growing is heavily dependent on the sun. Here is hoping for a few more sunny days then last year.
+motocephalic That's great! I'm glad to hear you're having great success with your hoop house. If these warmer than normal temps hold up, we'll have our best winter garden ever. We haven't lost any of our protected plants to the cold yet. So far, I think our lowest temp was 15 degrees F.
I can do that on the roof of my building?
Thanks for sharing Patrick. We will be waiting for updates. Best wishes Bob.
+Bob Lt (BobMel's Gardening) Thank you for your interest, Bob!
Looks really nice, sturdy and clean. I'd use PP/PE pipes instead of PVC as those doesn't break down so rapidly under UV and have no toxic residue released while "aging" under the sun. Also shouldn't react with sheet as it is same material group. I must say I'm really impressed with final result. Keep it up! Best wishes from Poland.
Thanks!
Str8-Up-NO LIES, that was THE BEST put 2gether TH-cam clip I've ever seen, PROPS !! And 4The style of the frame and how it all came 2gether, 4Sure that's a strong back bone of a blueprint .Good job.
Thanks, Chris!
Did you consider using a Gothic arch to help it shed snow more easily?
+Jeb Gardener That's a great suggestion. A Gothic arch top could be achieved if using metal pipe for the hoops. So far, this design is shedding snow fairly well. We'll see how it does when we get a heavy snow.
with flying butresses
I'm considering using a 90 degree elbow to join 2 sections of pvc for a gothic arch as I'm up in canada and snow and cold big prob. I'm thinking the sides will want to bow out, where the hoop type stays sturdier kinda cuz its under tension...idk.
How has this done with heavy snow? Curious if it has a chance withstanding a Milwaukee winter
That's not bad. How quickly are the veggies growing? Are you going to build a solar heater?
+High Desert Garden (Phillip) Yes, the veggies are still growing surprisingly well. We've had very warm weather so far. I don't plan to do anything more to heat the hoop house, but am always open to new ideas.
out of everyone i think ur r the best instructor of them all, u made so mucj sense answered so manu questions these other channel wont provide .. 👏👏👏👏
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One note of our experience about 30 years ago in Canada. We built a large greenhouse using 1" class 200 PVC (thin walled). We should have used schedule 40. Anyway as a warning, it stood up for some time but was weakened by the sun then shattered into pieces by the cold. Yours may avoid this with the 2x4 supports but PVC does degrade in the sun and does shatter from frost. All our greenhouses subsequently were made of wood and or metal.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Tim! We've used schedule 40 PVC for 10 years without any issues. We're still using 10 year old pipes in our low tunnels and they're as strong as ever. I wonder if you have more extreme cold than we do? We're in Chicago (zone 5).
Yes schedule 40 definitely helps and the smaller frames have a lower stress ratio. It was spectacular the day our structure came down. It was not super cold but there was a lot of moisture around.
You also said your greenhouse was large. Ours is quite small - only about 2.7 x 4 meters.
Yup. Smaller has a lower stress ratio.
That's a super looking 13x9 Greenhouse at a low cost. I think you make some good purchases . Well done Patrick
+Patrick Meehan Thanks, Patrick!
It will be interesting to see how it holds up to your Chicago winter. I'm sure you'll get a few years out of it before having to replace parts.
+OhHowHappyGardener The plastic should last 7 years or more. I'm expecting the frame to last much longer.
Great video series. I always enjoy your vids because of they're brief, to the point, and always informative. Keep up the good work (please).
+Jeff Sullivan Thanks, Jeff! I'm glad you like my brief, informative style!
very nice . I enjoy your channel. love the green house. Here in zone 2 by the time we clean up from last year's growing season it's time to start again.
+John Simons Thanks, John!
will you grow anything in here during the summer? will you keep it up all year round?
+Jennifer Brown Hi Jennifer. Unfortunately, this part of the yard doesn't get enough sun in the summer to grow summer crops, so we're stuck with growing greens there. We'll remove the top plastic only this spring to keep the greens from overheating.
ok perfect thanks.
Pvc makes a perfect arch every time. And screws hold better than wiggly wire. I think you did good
+phxtonash Great to hear! Removing the top will probably only take about 15 minutes anyway, even with the screws.
Great video fellow green thumb. I love the start letting ol mister whiskers in. My 18 year old cat passed on a few months before I finished my hoophouse, he would have loved it in there. My old pup( 16 yr old Rat Terrier) loves to go in the house and sleep in his bed!
+J Barksdale Thanks! I'm sorry to hear about the passing of your old feline friend. We had 2 cats pass away a few years ago that were both in their early 20's. It was tough to lose them. I'm glad to hear you're Terrier enjoys gardening too!
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Patrick, your clever. I like your greenhouse. I often thought about growing tomatoes during our winter in Z8. A rocket mass heater could be piped thru the circumference, to warm the soil.
+Sabine RiverAuthority Thanks, Nelson! Are you already growing cold hardy crops? There's so much you can grow in zone 8 during the winter without having to use a heater.
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Yes Patrick, broccoli, cabbage, spinach etc.. I do still have peppers standing since the spring. When i put a shot of worm juice in the watering can, the peppers flower again. Id like to know whats in the liquid I'm collecting from the worm bin, whatever is in it, its great fertilizer. Im 100% organic now that I'm following your method of no dig, no chemicals soil.
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+Sabine RiverAuthority That's great, Nelson!
Nice work! Can you elaborate on the "garden safe pressure treated" lumber? What is it treated with? I really don't like the idea of using treated lumber but maybe there's a non-toxic alternative I don't know about. Thanks!
+Paul Ladendorf Hi Paul. The lumber I used is treated with the MCQ method, which is the standard method used today. The manufacturer certifies that their wood is safe for raised beds. This method can lead to some copper leaching into the soil, but unlike the old CCA, arsenic isn't used in the treatment process.
I'm not concerned about the copper, but the wood is also treated with an antimicrobial treatment, which is why I prefer to not use it in contact with the soil. I'm not sure if this is something I really need to be concerned about, but I wanted to play it safe.
Do you have a video showing the building steps?
Great price I am surprised. Nice tips for the build too.
+Southpaw Davey Thanks, Dave!
Excellent build and wow the price was so low ! I suspect in Canada to build the same thing would be 50% more. I look forward to see how you do this winter !
+Alberta Urban Garden Simple Organic and Sustainable Thanks, Stephen! Yeah, it does seem like we have lower prices on a lot of items here. Are you still planning on building something?
+Alberta Urban Garden Simple Organic and Sustainable
and on an Island.
Patrick yes ill be building a smaller one to fit over a raised bed much like a low tunnel but I will try in the structure to get the double layer of glass.
+Alberta Urban Garden Simple Organic and Sustainable Your estimate of 50% more seems about right.
I suppose its about 30% more just because the Canadian Dollar os so low and then 20% what I call because Canadians will pay tax :)
Great disign. I'm planing to make similar hoop house probably with cattle panel this year. I saw a lot of hoop houses without roll up system on the sides. Isn't there too hot in the summer without open sides in hoop house like that?
Awesome build Patrick, I love the layout and the time you took to be so thorough with the instructions. Towards the end of this one, I must admit I started daydreaming, wondering what sort of gains in growth would be achieved with a single 1K hps lamp on a mover running for 4hrs per day.
+Poppy B. Thanks! Artificial light would probably help, but we want to keep things as low tech and low cost as possible. Growth will slow down quite a bit in January but pick pack up in late February.
So with the suggested stronger reinforcing to the hoop house,what would the total cost have been roughly,Patrick,maybe $600 approx?Still cheap then?
+ariesred777 The difference would be very small. If you went with with EMT electrical conduit instead of PVC, the price would be pretty much the same. You'd have to get a bender, but you wouldn't need the rebar (or the extra conduit I put under the PVC). Adding an extra hoop would add maybe $10.
Thanks,so would that "tempt" you to adjust?
+ariesred777 I might add an extra hoop if I had to do it all over again, but I'm very happy with the results and don't plan to make any changes.
Great Patrick! It looks so nice and symmetrical! I was going to ask you if you were going to take it down during the warmer season but you answered that below! How exciting to have late winter and early spring salad mix! :)
+Mary C Thanks, Mary! We love our winter greens.
I like the idea of a hoop house I just wish it was easier to store come summer. Space is at a premium where I live so I may research something a bit more collapsible yet still diy.
+1975Jdonov You could definitely do a DIY hoop house that would be easy to break down and set up.
Looks great! How has it held up to the weather? Anything you would have changed a second time around?
Thanks! The hoop house is in it's 3rd winter and I haven't had to make any repairs or modifications other than patching the plastic when fallen tree branches punctured it. If you live in an area that gets heavy snow, you might want to consider using metal pipes instead of PVC. We're in Chicago and get, on average, about 3 feet of snow per year. The PVC works great here.
Looks really good, and definitely would be within many peoples budgets and possibly skill level. I'm sure that this video will inspire or convince many to try something similar. Compared to something like a Harbor Freight greenhouse, I think you went in a better direction. I really look forward to seeing how well it works. I'm pretty sure you will be monitoring the temperature difference between cold frame, hoop house and outside.
I'm pondering building something too but I'm leaning more towards a wood framed greenhouse with removeable roof panels to better handle the large snowloads we get in Toronto in some winters, also to allow the possibility of a higher roof within a small space, as well as perhaps being able to treat it as a more permanent structure with electricity, lighting and other features. Did you ever consider going down the route of building a non-hoop design?
+MrChipGardener Thanks! Yes, I hope to share max and min temps over the course of several days in the different microclimates. If I was able to collect enough glass doors and large windows, I would consider building a greenhouse using these materials. This approach might even be cheaper than my hoop house. Other than that, this is pretty much the design I've had in mind. Best wishes with your greenhouse. I'm sure you'll love having it during your Toronto winters!
Hi! We are planning to build a sustainable garden high hoop. I am skeptic about those PVC pipes. Don't they get really brittle from sun, snow and temperature differences? We want ours to be 4m wide and 6m long which would be 13 ft wide and 20 ft long... The height we wish is 2,2m which is more then 7 ft...
Hi Jessica! We've used schedule 40 PVC on our relatively small structures for over a decade and have never had a pipe fail, and we're still using the first pipes we bought. However, with a structure the size of the one you want to build, I'd recommend using metal pipes, especially if you get a lot of snow.
Good information. I want one now.
+Sher Thom Thanks! You could grow a lot in your area during the winter!
I'm wondering how much time you spent building it. The hoop house looks very professional, but it also looks like a lot of work.
It took me longer than necessary to build this because I filmed the whole process. If I wasn't filming, I could have finished it over a couple weekends. This video shows how I built it: th-cam.com/video/4_yga1KPA5M/w-d-xo.html
Great looking hoophouse
+Rick Marshall Thanks, Rick!
Great video. Are you concerned at all about moisture and air flow in the winter when you have it closed off? I had a bunch of indoor plants in a single room that got a bit moldy.
+ReyReyloads Thanks! We've never had a problem with mold in our cold frames and low tunnels, which we've used for many years. I suspect the reason is that it's too cold for mold to thrive during the winter. We probably would have a problem with mold if we heated the hoop house. It gets very cold at night, even in protected areas.
Oh that's right. I that's probably why I had mold because they were inside our house.
Hi Patrick, I wanted to ask, where did you get the white wire rack in the back behind you in the corner? I've been looking into solid grids like that because I have major rodent/pest issues in my yard and my tulip bulbs etc get eaten every year. I'm thinking about growing sunchokes (mainly because you seem to highly endorse them), but I don't want squirrels digging them up. Do you think that rack would be safe to sink below the soil surface (for aesthetic reasons) or would the metal inside begin to rust and rot/etc?
Hi Sandevera! It's a repurposed wire shelf. I wouldn't recommend them for your purpose. I'd use hardware cloth: amzn.to/2Ny2BP5
Thanks for your reply! Do you think chicken wire fencing can fit the purpose also? Or same concerns?
Fantastic series, Patrick. Great production as always.
+FesterWerks Thanks!
😎 👍How much do you drop, for the Soil to fill your raised beds ?
I filled the beds with homemade compost.
Good stuff as usual, Patrick. Thanks for sharing.
+Jim S Thanks, Jim!
Very nice job man. Nice low cost! Youve got me thinking now. Was about to buy a earth care 7 x 10 polycarbonate for 800$ but for what yours is just as nice
Thanks Anthony! I also recommend looking into cattle panel hoop houses. They're easier to build than mine.
Are you going to monitor the temperature and let us know how it's working?
+David D Yes, I plan to record data on daily max and min temps in the different microclimates over the course of several days this winter.
Cool design, I learned so much today
Great series. I'm looking forward to the results over this winter. Best of luck!
+Lolita's Garden Thanks, Ian!
Would a simple PVC, rebar , and 6 mil plastic , and clamps for a 12" 4x8 raised bed ? Would that size of an area require any wood ? Thanks !
It depends on how much snow you get where you live. We get less than 3' of snow in winter. If you get more than than, you probably want to use metal hoops.
I know, your a gardener, so this may not matter.
So how much mixed greens could you buy for $310. The greens you will get throughout the winter, how long until you make up for the $310 expense.
Just curious. I like your hoop house.
+Double Dog Farm Thanks, Eric! That's a great question. I wish I had the discipline to record our harvests to determine how much we save on groceries. Since I don't, I'll just guess.
First, I should also point out that we'll not only have greens during fall and winter, but we'll have an explosion of growth in late winter and early spring, giving us very large harvests much earlier than we would otherwise have.
Given our local organic grocer is Whole Foods, which is very expensive and sells sorrel for $2.99 for 2/3 ounce, my best guess is that we'd recoup our costs in the first one or two years.
+Double Dog Farm The journey matters, not just the destination! I doubt I will ever recoup what I've spent on my own small garden in terms of produce value (although I have also increased the value of my home IMO) but just as pointless would be putting a dollar value on your labour for what is a hobby that gives you a lot of joy. The fresh veg is almost just a bonus!
Patrick will also be able to start a lot of his warm season crops earlier. I admire his work ethic though - it's enough hassle for me to assemble/disassemble a few of of those cheap stand up greenhouses at the start and end of the cold season. I couldn't imagine putting that up and taking it down every year. If I ever do get a large property I'll have a permanent greenhouse with plenty of venting.
+Darkfalz79 I must have given the wrong impression. I plan to keep the framing entirely intact year round. I'll also keep the plastic on the end walls. In the spring, I'll only remove the plastic that covers the hoops. This will only take about 15 minutes. It would be even easier with Wiggle Wire, but it's not much of a hassle with my current setup. It'll be much easier than dissembling stand up greenhouses.
Isn't there a conflict with PVC pipe and greenhouse film? The two plastics do not work well together. The greenhouse film I've bought says the guarantee is void if used with PVC. Electric conduit would have been a better choice.
+Mario Postini Hi Mario. You can resolve this issue by covering the PVC with tape where it comes into contact with greenhouse film. Greenhousemegastore sells a felt tape for this purpose. We used white Gorilla Tape.
Wow Patrick, 300 bucks isn't bad at all considering how well built that green house is. Honestly, I would hate taking that plastic off as you did such a good job getting it nice and tight, but I guess it would just get too hot in there in the summer. I have to say I am quite jealous, I would love to have a nice greenhouse/hoop house, but I think my lack of sun in winter would make it not worth the effort.
+Bryan Wickizer Thanks, Bryan! I'll be leaving the plastic on the end walls and removing it from over the hoops only. It's not as bad as it sounds. It shouldn't take more than about 15 minutes to remove and maybe 30 to 45 to put back on in the fall.
Very nice.
+Liberty Garden Thanks!
How donu exhaust the heat and high humidity
The hoop house is only covered during the cold months. We just open the hoop house door on sunny days and vent the cold frames and low tunnels inside.
How long would this type of hoop house last?
We've had it for 4 winters now and haven't had to make any repairs to the structure. With maintenance, I expect it to last the rest of my life. We'll replace the plastic every 8 to 10 years.
Did you build your cold frames too?
Awesome project. And the great valuable information. I appreciate the time that you put in making the video and the math. 🙏🏼
Thanks!
I also live in zone 5, Saint John NB, and have always wanted a hoop house but the snow falls we get here have discouraged me from even attempting it. Did u have to do a lot of snow removal to keep it from crushing the sides in on itself?
Hi Greg. The hoop house sheds snow fairly well. You could make one with steeper sides to shed snow even better.
My approach was to brush off the snow with a broom in the morning and evening when it was snowing to keep too much snow from accumulating. We didn't get nearly enough snow last winter to threaten the structural integrity of the hoop house.
OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening true this past winter we had very little snow. But if we had just a little more where the volume sliding off the top could have made rather large piles on the side wall areas. Shoveling this away could be a full time job. I don't think any amount of shoveling could save a hoop house with the amount of snow we had 2 years ago. My entire back yard (including Garden area) had 12ft of snow covering. Cannot shovel that.
Wow, that's a lot of snow! 3 feet is a lot for us in the backyard. I don't foresee it getting to the point where it's not manageable, but 12 feet is another story. Our hoop house is also small (13' x 9 '), which makes the job easier.
Will this survive wind gusts of up to 50 mph?
+probablystalkingyou Funny you should ask because we had wind gusts of 50 mph after I covered the end walls and it didn't affect them at all. We do have lots of wind blocks here, so if you live in a very open area, the wind will definitely be more of a factor. But I'm confident it will handle the winds here in Chicago.
How many years do you hope it will last?
+Maria Hurley The plastic will probably have to be replaced in 7 to 10 years. The rest should last much longer.
So over time - $35-$45 a year, with it being even lower if you only have to replace the plastic in 7-10 years.
+Maria Hurley We used $65.93 worth of plastic, so that's just $9.42 per year if it lasts 7 years. In reality, we'll continue to use the plastic for years beyond that to cover compost piles, protect plants from frost, etc. I expect the hoop house frame to last longer than 10 years with minimal repairs.
Very good info! Good luck mr.!
+Catalin Oancea Thanks, Catalin!
Hi Patrick. Thank you so much for the videos! I've learned a lot from you am I'm trying a lot of your ideas this year, including building my first hoop house! I've started tomato and peppers inside and can't wait to move them outside. Although I live in zone 8, we are still getting some cold nights (low 40s). Unfortunately, our (small) greenhouse / (large) hoop house isn't warmer than the outside temp. We used a lot of the same materials you have, including greenhouse plastic. Any thoughts as to why it is not heating?
Is it in the shade?
Nope. Full sun. I plan to add a hoop house inside the greenhouse in a few days, but it seems like the greenhouse should hold heat (it was in the low 80s two days ago).
Are you saying the nighttime temps in the hoop house aren't warmer than the outside temp? Surely it's much warmer in the hoop house during the day, especially when it's sunny. Our hoop house routinely gets as warm as 80 degrees on sunny days that are well below freezing.
Perplexing isn't it? It's only about 10 degrees different in the day and about after an hour sunset, the same temp as outside. We even added tarps to the bottom to make sue the air wasn't escaping that way. I'll keep problem solving and let you know how it turns out!
Hey what's the temp in there in the winter?
The temp varies quite a bit in the hoop house in winter. This video shows high and low temps over the course of 7 days.
nice channel
+Gym Monk Thanks!
what plastic did you use
This is the plastic we used: www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/4-year-greenhouse-film/6-mil-polyethylene-film
I like it! Mine was fairly simpler I think but not as well built. i was trying to make it where I could roll up the sides. It gets warm here in the winter off and on in central Oklahoma. I have to have a way to vent. Maybe have top vents that open up on the ends like Elliot Colemans. That might be easier for me but great job. Looks great and very functional. The doors I made were double wide. I got the whole idea from "How to build My 50 Dollar Greenhouse". Too much wind for wide doors like that here. I did modified it with wiggle wire in the past when it was going and I thought it held fine even with the wind gusts we get here. I used 1" and 2 1/2" pipe to do it which is overkill since we don't always get snow but we do get ice so maybe not. I still like your design much better though. Keep it up!
+CW Thanks! It served us very well over the winter. With all the fences, buildings, and trees around our yard, wind isn't too bad. I might add temporary supports when we're expecting huge snowfalls.
Just install a 2x6 ridgepole with strong ,ie,4x4 supports on the ends,and youre going to be a lot better off.
Agreed.
$313.42 is amazingly cheap when you think about all the fresh veggies you're gonna harvest year round. Not only that you'll have more space to start your seedlings for next years crop. Well done : )
+Oukoyami Thanks! I agree. It won't take long to recoup the cost in extra produce.
Paul and I just watched this. Nice going Patrick. Your work is so neat and methodical. And you make all seem so easy to do. Maybe recommend to your audience to check habitat for humanity stores that sell discount surplus building materials to save on cost. Or, maybe subgroups can form online??? and buy in bulk...the OYR group rate for plastic et al hahahahaah... have you considered adding biomass(manure, compost pile/water barrels to add heat?
+Suzanne Ramoundos Thanks! Given the limited space, I decided against adding compost or heat sinks. I'm following the Eliot Coleman technique of 2 layers of protection instead.
PVC is not UV stable and will become brittle over a season or two. Easiest way to get more years out of it is to paint it.
Also worth considering: even in winter hoop houses can get real hot, real fast. a vent of some kind will greatly help regulate temperature and humidity, and do so much smoother than opening the door.
+macrossactual We've used PVC for low tunnels for nearly a decade without any noticeable deterioration. I may install a window with an automated opener next year. Thanks for the suggestions!
Where did you get garden safe pressure treat?
Treated wood used to contain arsenic, but now it's treated with copper, which is safe in the garden.
Did you buy all that wood? It looks like almost $150.00 in lumber alone.
The lumber cost $102.26. This spreadsheet shows the costs: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vp4yrcNq6DF7RQtTQ7mU6E1_sDwFSZi63JQWhvyljX4/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks awesome series
Awesome Vids Patrick thank you for sharing :)
Thanks, Daniel!
Thank you so much!
+Jean Lanzilotti You're welcome!
Well, that bed sure got a lot of love this year, didn't it? :-)
I like what you've done and enjoyed following it. I did think to myself, that it will be a royal pain when you want to remove the plastic in the Spring.
+Tim Sheets Thanks for your interest, Tim! We'll only remove the top plastic in the spring, which shouldn't take more than about 15 minutes.
New subscriber. Looking forward to the learning process.
+captmoa Thanks for subscribing and welcome to the channel!
Right now, it is a heck of a lot better than my greenhouse which the wind took down. With the floor, I have $3000 into mine. It is going to cost a few bucks again to replace the damaged parts.
+dakotabob10 I'm sorry to hear that, Bob! How will you protect it from wind damage in the future?
OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening I am going to turn it 180 degrees so that the prevailing wind hit on the backside. I also know what caused the failure. With a redesign and modification to two parts, I can prevent the problem that caused the initial failure from happening again. I might also erect a small wind break on the west side to cut the wind. If I get winds stronger than 70 mph that took it out, then I will be rebuilding it again. I bought a 8x6 Shelter Logic greenhouse to set up initially next spring. I will wait until it warms up good before I reconstruct the Grandio Greenhouse.
+dakotabob10 70 mph winds are tough. I hope all goes well, Bob.
+OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening Thanks Patrick!
how are you doing patrick i have been have some problems with my plants i think i may need a shade house the sun seems to be beating them bad and they are plants that ask for full sun even my peppers are crying
+just trying to grow some food I'm well! How have you been?
One long term solution would be to grow some perennial fruit trees that do well in your area. You could then grow in their shade.
i am good i have been looking into that because i want to grow fruit trees but when i tryed to get some they tell me what i want can grow here in the bahamas
just trying to grow some food I recommend only growing fruit that is known to grow well in the Bahamas. Some great choices are: Avocado, Banana, Coconut, Grapefruit, Persian Lime, Mango, Orange, Pineapple, Scarlet Plum and Sour Orange.
+OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening thanks will try to get some will keep u updated
+just trying to grow some food Great! I think the most important thing to remember is to grow crops that are known to grow well in the Bahamas. You really have some amazing choices there! I'm jealous!
That is a great investment Patrick, shouldn't be long to leverage (not sure of the term, but to get your moneys worth in fresh veggies is what I mean), I won't say anything about the Canadian dollar :-D
+Elyse Joseph Thanks, Elyse! You're right; it won't take long to make our money back in fresh produce. So far, the weather has been so mild, we haven't lost any of the protected plants to the cold.
For 2021 pricing, just add a zero to the end
For 2024 pricing, add two zeros.
Your greenhouse plastic is going to deteriorate where the pvc touches it. The UV rays will gas the pvc and chlorine gas will damage and break down the plastic. You have to paint the pvc with non mildew additive latex paint. I painted mine before skinning it. Try pipe insulator slipped under it to stop the contact. I used 1 inch conduit for my hoops and still painted it, it was gas off too when exposed to UV light i.e. SUN.
+J Barksdale The PVC is covered with UV resistant tape to prevent damage to the plastic.
ok then, I see you have it covered, pardon the pun, have a good spring/summer!
Nice one Patrick! First video of yours I've seen for a bit now and hope you're keeping well. I'm now focussing on a character who attends meetings of Narcotics Anonymous I also go to Patrick. Yesterday at such a meeting he made me feel uncomfortable in what was a premeditated attack and, whereas in the past when such has happened, I've run away and failed to deal with the situation, this time I intend to stand up to the bugger. I'm a very sensitive soul as you know Patrick and an easy prey for a bully. I would be deeply touched if you'd spare me a thought as I attempt to deal with this more assertively. Cheers!
+Michael Ball Thanks, Michael! I think you'll find that most bullies are nothing but hot air. Just be careful not to escalate a situation that could lead to violence. You're in my thoughts.
Thank you Patrick, I appreciate your advice and thoughts. It seems important for me to share my account openly with the group (possibly tonight) without naming him so that he knows that I am not prepared to remain silent about the matter. I have been in this situation before, kept the matter to myself and this seems to have granted the bully sanction to increase his/ her level of intrusion until the point where I've had enough and simply run away. Fingers crossed eh.
Why take it down seasonally? Leave it up and grow some warmer-climate crops!
+Zerkbern This part of the garden gets very little sun during the summer, which is okay for our cold hardy crops but not for summer crops. The bed is also populated almost entirely by cold hardy perennials and self-sowing annuals. Many of them have been growing there for nearly a decade. Planting summer crops wouldn't yield results and would disrupt the self-sowing process.
Well, that makes sense. But such a hassle to take it down.
+Zerkbern I'll only be removing the top plastic in the spring, which shouldn't take more than about 15 minutes. This is something I took into consideration when designing the hoop house, and removing the top won't be much of a hassle, even without the wiggle wire.
I'm in zone 5 as well...do u believe raised beds are necessary? Or is it possible to build one directly over my garden beds...you have certainly inspired me! Thank you!
I like your cat.....😎
Bargain. Done a cracking job.
Thanks, Rachel!
LOL, we have a bender from Johnny's used for one set of hoops...a shame you live so far away.
1. CAAAAAAAAT!. Oscar!
2. Drink the damn Coffee, Tea, Kombucha. It makes me nauseous that you just hold it.
3. Please do some germination and worm videos. Would you like to have some African NC?
4. Last week it was my birthday U didn't call me. Bleh!
+KALSINFILMS Darn, I knew I missed your birthday! Sorry!
ONLY 313.42... Sounds like a sales man. ONLY!!!
+Keenen Watts One great way to extend the growing season on a budget is to build cold frame from salvaged wood and windows. They can often be built for free and they're very effective.
what is your nutrition and health truly worth? when you can guarantee clean nutritionally dense produce you win every day! :-)
+1mtstewart It's definitely worth $313.42! ;-)
+OneYardRevolution | Frugal & Sustainable Organic Gardening AGREED!
you say hoop house far too much lol
You can grow marijuana too.
I don't know much about that topic, but I assume it would be too cold.