In 1962 to 1963 my father did an exchange tour with the Royal Navy out of RNAS Caldrose flying the Gannet. He also flew off Ark Royal. One of the Gannets he flew is now at RAF Duxford. He confirmed this against his flight logs. The stories from his time there were great! Thanks for the video.
I had the pleasure of exploring the Gannet on the Ark Royal in 1965 on an open day in Singapore! My Father was in the RAF Transport Command at the time. For an eight year old it was an amazing experience! Love this channel, keep up the good work.
In 1970 I was a 16 year old Junior at fire station RNAS Yeovilton . A Gannet crashed on approach at night . I was part of the fire crew and and retrieved the body’s of the two crew the following day as the fire during the night was too fierce to even approach the wreck. Yes my CPO thought it would be good experience for me to carry out that awful task. Only last year 2022 I discovered through the internet the names and ages of the two Sub /Lt’s who crewed the aircraft , may they rest in peace .
I believe this was 044, XR433. I was plane captain, embarked in Ark for sea trials. That cab was flying from Brawdy that night. We got the news in the morning. Obviously shocking news. Ark lost a Phantom at about the same time.
Very much enjoy this video, since the Gannet always had a special place in my heart. Though no doubt ungainly, it was an engineering marvel. And Trevor is a splendid narrator.
Trevor reminds me of the pilots i met during my RAF service from the last of the Shack & lightning jockeys to the old V bomber boys, quietly confident , but braced with steel , a great interview 👍
I was on the Ark Royal from 1975 - 1977 of all the aircraft on there I thought the Gannet was the most graceful, I loved watching them take off and land, I was a stoker and took every opportunity to watch them flying.
Interesting story about the development of the automatic flotation device. This happen in part in response to an aircraft that ditched from Arc Royal off Mombasa after the cable on the catapult broke. The pilot, a chap called Roger Jackson, wasnt able to stop the aircraft in time and it rolled off the end of the ship into the sea. The ship rolled over them but incredibly, all three of the crew managed to escape and were picked up and returned to the ship. My father told me about this as he had been scheduled to be piloting the aircraft but the No.2 had decided to take him off as it was down to be my father's last trip from Arc Royal and the No2 had seen too many close calls and accidents with pilots doing "tricks" on their last flights!
I was on HMS Ark Royal at the same during the filming of the 'sailor' documentary. [I was in the Royal Marines Band on board] always loved being up on the goofing deck watching the flying, but it seemed that after watching the Phantoms and Buccaneer jets landing, the Gannet almost looked very sedate on its approach and trying to catch the ship!
Today we will be interviewing a Gannet pilot ....... WHAT !!! Had to look it up to make sure .... yep that's that thing that flies I remember seeing a pic of . Less airplane more thing that produces flight . Haha Great one , I never thought I'd see a pilot interview on that aircraft . That generation of pilot's sure have interesting stories . Playing loose rules during the Cold War .
I was born and brought up in Elgin, where the roar of warming up jets in the still morning air could be heard from RNAS Lossiemouth a mere 5 miles distant and was a frequent alarm call. The highlight of the year was always the annual Air Day when it was possible for the public to get up close to those noisy birds that gave us a very unusual dawn chorus. Of all the fantatic displays, which included so many iconic aircraft including the Spitfire, Lightning and Vulcan, the most memorable for me was undoubtedly the ugly, slow Fairey Gannet, and for a very good reason. We had been treated to several exciting fly pasts from some very exotic beasts with their glowing afterburners, then along came the ugly Gannet, skimming the deck with one engine shut down, it dropped altitude and in a fraction of a second it's bulbous radome made contact with the grass and disintegrated in an enormous flurry of debris not 50 yards in front of us. The plane continued flying and landed safely, with no injury to the crowd save being given a taste of fear and adrenaline! This unscripted display was followed by a clear up of debris and confiscation of cameras!
Thanks for adding map of lossie mouth. More mapping if it's an easy add. That said I mostly listen and don't traditionally watch. So it's not a strong preference. Thanks as always Mike 😊
The Gannet. Queen of The Sky. Looks aren’t everything. If we’d have the Ark with her Bucks, Phantoms and Gannet AEWs in 1982 a lot of sailors would still be alive today. HMG can be VERY stupid at times and then things tend not to end well. Great show and very interesting . As an ex Fleet Air Arm Museum employee I find all this fascinating . I always felt the AEW Gannet was an ugly duckling but a brilliant aircraft. Well done 👍👍
When our guest commented on the adaptation of the aircraft from anti sub to air intel, I had to imagine it would have been quite adept and even graceful shooting down flying submarines.😂 Great stories, great service from great fellows.
He is talking Pure Tripe for a start the plane guards were never frigates ... it was always a Destroyer ... and as for some crappy old soviet spy trawler being asked ??? (The Enemy) to be plane guard is Pure Fantasy ... it would Never keep up with the Ark when doing a launch or recovery, The Ark would be hitting around 30 knots
@theoccupier1652 so if the Russian trawlers (which were always reported shadowing NATO fleets) were unable to keep up, what was the point of them being there? Close inspection of those ships showed that they were nothing like the floating wrecks which their appearance suggested, but bristling with surveillance equipment.
The Fairey Gannet was sure a powerful aircraft built to do a particular job. I'm sure it is efficient, but I wouldn't give any points in the looks department. If the P-51D and Spitfires were Ferraris, then the Gannet is like a lorry.
Wasn't the Gannet the last propeller driven RN carrier aircraft? Regardless of how the propellers were driven. The gas turbines mostly gave shaft power to the propellers, not jet power out the exhaust.
G'day, Great stuff...! One point of contention though, the comment regarding, "Climbing up to, and entering the Cockpit of this Aeroplane is very difficult...; and in the writer's opinion - it should perhaps be made impossible..." is generally attributed, by all other sources previously personally encountered, not to Peter Twiss referring to the Gannet (unless he was at the time knowingly quoting...?) ; but rather to the sainted Eric, of the "Winkle" Brown variety, opining upon the Fairey Baracuda - which was in comparison with the later Gannet, a Truly VILE Hairygoplane...., in which to attempt to ascend into the Heavens, therewithin to pursue and chastise the Designated Enemies (Any Me's ?)...., of His Britannic Majesty, The King of England, his Heirs & Successors, and duly appointed Minions...(!). In point of fact..., the Gannet was what Fairey finished up with, after fixing everything which was wrong with the Barracuda, and installing Twin Mambas feeding the two halves of the Contra-Rotating Propeller... Basically, the Barracuda was ugly and slow and fragile and useless, and Brown had very excellent reasons for suggesting it have it's Cockpit spot-welded shut...; but by contrast, Twiss would have had good reasons to pillory the Gannet over it's appearance - but it ONLY Looks Wrong, if it doesn't WORK..., and the Gannet actually did work as designed. So, methinketh that Eric Brown probably said it first, about the Barracuda..., whereas this bloke has somehow got his stories garbled...; I'm pretty sure Brown recounts his quip about the Barracuda in one or more of the many videoed Interviews he made in the decade prior to his death. Just(ifiably ?) sayin', Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
Trevor was an RAF pilot. The Fleet Air Arm had been drastically reduced and naval pilots were no longer being recruited. The run down of the once great FAA. Very sad, in fact tragic. The RAF set out to shut down the FAA to keep themselves going. It probably cost the lives of all those lost in the Falklands. The RAF pilots were completely unsuited to life on a carrier, same as being repeated today with the QE class. You don't join the RAF to be a sailor. With no disrespect to him, Trevor's comments say it all. He would have been an excellent Shackleton pilot (twice the crew, same radar) and land based. The RAF stopped him going to the E2 to stop it being chosen above the AEW Nimrod. The RN had no training school because the RAF shut it down. It was part of the inspiration for TopGun. Trevor is sadly consciously or otherwise trying to re write history.
On the Ark we had RN & RAF aircrew ... I never ever saw any US or Aussie aircrew at all on the Ark in my 6/7 years on the flight deck ... the only time we has any US aircrew was during cross opps & they brought thier own aircraft with them & @15:10 He Is Talking Complete and UTTER RUBBISH ... the Ship steaming out of wind for the Gannet ... Total TOSH !!!
Think he might be a little confused - Phantom guns on the splash target, didn't think the RN had the SUU pod, and flying the Gannet AS4, think he means the COD4.
@@mattrika4874 Yep the Phantoms attacked the splash target with 2 inch rockets (never practice bombs or ((Cannons we didn't have them)) ... the Buccs did both rockets & bombs ... yeah the AS4 is the COD (Carrier Onboard Delivery) the mail man ... when they got rid of the COD Gannet the Buccs brought the mail in the bomb bay :)
@@mattrika4874 A few small errors which the passage of time might be to blame. The catapult steam pipe above his bunk - I don’t think so in a wardroom cabin down aft unless he was in a JRs mess a lot further forward which he would not have survived to tell the tale!
There are more holes in this guys stories ... for a start the plane guards were never Frigates ... it was always a Destroyer ... and as for some crappy old soviet spy trawler being asked ??? (The Enemy) to be plane guard is Pure Fantasy ... it would Never keep up with the Ark during a launch or recovery, The Ark would be hitting around 30 knots ... He is talking Pure Tripe
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Absolute gold. We always hear about the fantastic Phantoms and Buccs but not the workaday Gannet. Fascinating.
I remember seeing Gannets at RNAS Brawdy in the late 1960's. I personally loved it.
In 1962 to 1963 my father did an exchange tour with the Royal Navy out of RNAS Caldrose flying the Gannet. He also flew off Ark Royal. One of the Gannets he flew is now at RAF Duxford. He confirmed this against his flight logs. The stories from his time there were great! Thanks for the video.
He might have known my Father Bob Thirde who was on 849 and flew from Ark Royal around the same time. He also flew the Gannet that's at Duxford
Andre, was your Dad called Norman?
I had the pleasure of exploring the Gannet on the Ark Royal in 1965 on an open day in Singapore! My Father was in the RAF Transport Command at the time. For an eight year old it was an amazing experience! Love this channel, keep up the good work.
I think perhaps it is the most British looking thing, that I’ve ever seen.
In 1970 I was a 16 year old Junior at fire station RNAS Yeovilton . A Gannet crashed on approach at night . I was part of the fire crew and and retrieved the body’s of the two crew the following day as the fire during the night was too fierce to even approach the wreck. Yes my CPO thought it would be good experience for me to carry out that awful task. Only last year 2022 I discovered through the internet the names and ages of the two Sub /Lt’s who crewed the aircraft , may they rest in peace .
I believe this was 044, XR433. I was plane captain, embarked in Ark for sea trials. That cab was flying from Brawdy that night. We got the news in the morning. Obviously shocking news. Ark lost a Phantom at about the same time.
Very much enjoy this video, since the Gannet always had a special place in my heart. Though no doubt ungainly, it was an engineering marvel. And Trevor is a splendid narrator.
There’s a gannet at the Queensland air museum,was under cover for many years,last time I seen it it was parked out side looking a bit worse for wear .
Trevor reminds me of the pilots i met during my RAF service from the last of the Shack & lightning jockeys to the old V bomber boys, quietly confident , but braced with steel , a great interview 👍
I was on the Ark Royal from 1975 - 1977 of all the aircraft on there I thought the Gannet was the most graceful, I loved watching them take off and land, I was a stoker and took every opportunity to watch them flying.
Interesting story about the development of the automatic flotation device. This happen in part in response to an aircraft that ditched from Arc Royal off Mombasa after the cable on the catapult broke. The pilot, a chap called Roger Jackson, wasnt able to stop the aircraft in time and it rolled off the end of the ship into the sea. The ship rolled over them but incredibly, all three of the crew managed to escape and were picked up and returned to the ship. My father told me about this as he had been scheduled to be piloting the aircraft but the No.2 had decided to take him off as it was down to be my father's last trip from Arc Royal and the No2 had seen too many close calls and accidents with pilots doing "tricks" on their last flights!
I was brought up in Prestwick with the RN HMS Gannet helicopter base with a Gannet as gate guard.
I remember these planes at RN Brawdy in the ‘60s. I was only a kid but still remember the noise they made.
I was on HMS Ark Royal at the same during the filming of the 'sailor' documentary. [I was in the Royal Marines Band on board] always loved being up on the goofing deck watching the flying, but it seemed that after watching the Phantoms and Buccaneer jets landing, the Gannet almost looked very sedate on its approach and trying to catch the ship!
Today we will be interviewing a Gannet pilot ....... WHAT !!! Had to look it up to make sure .... yep that's that thing that flies I remember seeing a pic of . Less airplane more thing that produces flight . Haha Great one , I never thought I'd see a pilot interview on that aircraft . That generation of pilot's sure have interesting stories . Playing loose rules during the Cold War .
I was born and brought up in Elgin, where the roar of warming up jets in the still morning air could be heard from RNAS Lossiemouth a mere 5 miles distant and was a frequent alarm call. The highlight of the year was always the annual Air Day when it was possible for the public to get up close to those noisy birds that gave us a very unusual dawn chorus.
Of all the fantatic displays, which included so many iconic aircraft including the Spitfire, Lightning and Vulcan, the most memorable for me was undoubtedly the ugly, slow Fairey Gannet, and for a very good reason.
We had been treated to several exciting fly pasts from some very exotic beasts with their glowing afterburners, then along came the ugly Gannet, skimming the deck with one engine shut down, it dropped altitude and in a fraction of a second it's bulbous radome made contact with the grass and disintegrated in an enormous flurry of debris not 50 yards in front of us. The plane continued flying and landed safely, with no injury to the crowd save being given a taste of fear and adrenaline! This unscripted display was followed by a clear up of debris and confiscation of cameras!
Excellent! Thank you both. Rich.
Very interesting interview, can't have been too many RAF QFI's on the Gannet!!
Thanks for adding map of lossie mouth. More mapping if it's an easy add.
That said I mostly listen and don't traditionally watch. So it's not a strong preference.
Thanks as always Mike 😊
I can't believe that's a real airplane. It looks like a Dr. Seuss cartoon.
The Gannet.
Queen of The Sky.
Looks aren’t everything.
If we’d have the Ark with her Bucks, Phantoms and Gannet AEWs in 1982 a lot of sailors would still be alive today.
HMG can be VERY stupid at times and then things tend not to end well.
Great show and very interesting .
As an ex Fleet Air Arm Museum employee I find all this fascinating . I always felt the AEW Gannet was an ugly duckling but a brilliant aircraft.
Well done 👍👍
Could Gannets have flown off Hermes (pre ski-Jump?)
The flying porcupine, good choice Sir! - Thank you for your service.
Sounds like Trevor's bunk was set up to practice to climbing into his Gannet 🙂
Brilliant, and an aircraft we don’t hear enough about!
Customer here tells me his brother was radar tech. He saw Gannet takeoff and wing folded. Crew saved. Few weeks later same again, crew lost.
Finally a pilot that can admit his aircraft is not a looker haha
When our guest commented on the adaptation of the aircraft from anti sub to air intel, I had to imagine it would have been quite adept and even graceful shooting down flying submarines.😂 Great stories, great service from great fellows.
Good story Trevor, I enjoyed listening to it
It's a beautiful and unique aircraft! Thank you Trevor.
About fugly as it gets 😊
Saw one at Oshkosh a few years ago. Beautiful aircraft!
What a great interview again !
Fantastic clip ,thanks for sharing
I was an Raf engineer in the 80s at Lossiemouth on the Shackleton
Cheers
Great video.
Great video, again.
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Excellent! Such a wide variety of acct this gentleman flew. Would enjoy hearing more from him.
Great video. Kermit Weeks has a Sunderland in the USA and, l think it may be airworthy. Trevor might speak to him.
Great interview thanks.
OMG Bill Covington in that banned phot ...ex CO 801 Captain OSPREY and Rear Admiral....what a gent cheers Trevor 😊
Badly missed during the Falklands War in it's AEW role. If these had been flying a CAP the UK's losses would have dropped to near zero!
My father flew the Gannet and was on 849sqn in the later 1960s. That's where my parents met as my mother is from Elgin just inland from Lossiemouth.
Brilliant.
Thanks for that, can you tell me the years that this covers?
I shall try to find out.
I got the feeling he expected more reaction to his tale of the Russian trawler!
The reaction would be from Ivan's family.
It's the Sea you see.
Got MY reaction. That's extremely grim.
He is talking Pure Tripe for a start the plane guards were never frigates ... it was always a Destroyer ... and as for some crappy old soviet spy trawler being asked ??? (The Enemy) to be plane guard is Pure Fantasy ... it would Never keep up with the Ark when doing a launch or recovery, The Ark would be hitting around 30 knots
@theoccupier1652 so if the Russian trawlers (which were always reported shadowing NATO fleets) were unable to keep up, what was the point of them being there?
Close inspection of those ships showed that they were nothing like the floating wrecks which their appearance suggested, but bristling with surveillance equipment.
Did you ever do airshows on the boat? The royal navy has joined the chat
The Fairey Gannet was sure a powerful aircraft built to do a particular job. I'm sure it is efficient, but I wouldn't give any points in the looks department. If the P-51D and Spitfires were Ferraris, then the Gannet is like a lorry.
Oh yes. The Guy Big J of the skies!
DDLS ! A bastard at lossie , which had a Gannet as gate guardian.
Wasn't the Gannet the last propeller driven RN carrier aircraft? Regardless of how the propellers were driven. The gas turbines mostly gave shaft power to the propellers, not jet power out the exhaust.
G'day,
Great stuff...!
One point of contention though, the comment regarding,
"Climbing up to, and entering the Cockpit of this Aeroplane is very difficult...; and in the writer's opinion - it should perhaps be made impossible..."
is generally attributed, by all other sources previously personally encountered, not to Peter Twiss referring to the Gannet (unless he was at the time knowingly quoting...?) ; but rather to the sainted Eric, of the "Winkle" Brown variety, opining upon the Fairey Baracuda - which was in comparison with the later Gannet, a Truly VILE Hairygoplane...., in which to attempt to ascend into the Heavens, therewithin to pursue and chastise the Designated Enemies
(Any Me's ?)...., of His Britannic Majesty, The King of England, his Heirs & Successors, and duly appointed Minions...(!).
In point of fact..., the Gannet was what Fairey finished up with, after fixing everything which was wrong with the Barracuda, and installing Twin Mambas feeding the two halves of the Contra-Rotating Propeller...
Basically, the Barracuda was ugly and slow and fragile and useless, and Brown had very excellent reasons for suggesting it have it's Cockpit spot-welded shut...; but by contrast, Twiss would have had good reasons to pillory the Gannet over it's appearance - but it ONLY Looks Wrong, if it doesn't WORK..., and the Gannet actually did work as designed.
So, methinketh that Eric Brown probably said it first, about the Barracuda..., whereas this bloke has somehow got his stories garbled...; I'm pretty sure Brown recounts his quip about the Barracuda in one or more of the many videoed Interviews he made in the decade prior to his death.
Just(ifiably ?) sayin',
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
Why the FAA did not exercices with the Aeronavale often ?
Nice .. resembles the French Alize
No offence but it sounds like listening to a train spotter
Fabulous.
Love the Gannet.
Flying the Gannet seems similar to flying a bumblebee.
They should really do their research before hand. To not know that the Gannet had a unique turboprop arrangement was not a good look.
Always seems odd to refer to the Gannet as a twin engined aircradt!
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Trevor was an RAF pilot. The Fleet Air Arm had been drastically reduced and naval pilots were no longer being recruited.
The run down of the once great FAA. Very sad, in fact tragic.
The RAF set out to shut down the FAA to keep themselves going. It probably cost the lives of all those lost in the Falklands.
The RAF pilots were completely unsuited to life on a carrier, same as being repeated today with the QE class. You don't join the RAF to be a sailor.
With no disrespect to him, Trevor's comments say it all. He would have been an excellent Shackleton pilot (twice the crew, same radar) and land based.
The RAF stopped him going to the E2 to stop it being chosen above the AEW Nimrod.
The RN had no training school because the RAF shut it down. It was part of the inspiration for TopGun. Trevor is sadly consciously or otherwise trying to re write history.
👍🏻…looks like a pregnant guppy
Gannets? Well, I don't like them...they wet their nests.
On the Ark we had RN & RAF aircrew ... I never ever saw any US or Aussie aircrew at all on the Ark in my 6/7 years on the flight deck ... the only time we has any US aircrew was during cross opps & they brought thier own aircraft with them & @15:10 He Is Talking Complete and UTTER RUBBISH ... the Ship steaming out of wind for the Gannet ... Total TOSH !!!
Think he might be a little confused - Phantom guns on the splash target, didn't think the RN had the SUU pod, and flying the Gannet AS4, think he means the COD4.
@@mattrika4874 Yep the Phantoms attacked the splash target with 2 inch rockets (never practice bombs or ((Cannons we didn't have them)) ... the Buccs did both rockets & bombs ... yeah the AS4 is the COD (Carrier Onboard Delivery) the mail man ... when they got rid of the COD Gannet the Buccs brought the mail in the bomb bay :)
@@mattrika4874 A few small errors which the passage of time might be to blame. The catapult steam pipe above his bunk - I don’t think so in a wardroom cabin down aft unless he was in a JRs mess a lot further forward which he would not have survived to tell the tale!
I think he has forgotten that the ship steaming into wind that any smoke from the funnel would still be across the approach at some point on finals.
There are more holes in this guys stories ... for a start the plane guards were never Frigates ... it was always a Destroyer ... and as for some crappy old soviet spy trawler being asked ??? (The Enemy) to be plane guard is Pure Fantasy ... it would Never keep up with the Ark during a launch or recovery, The Ark would be hitting around 30 knots ... He is talking Pure Tripe
You may have good videos but will not sit through ads and begging for money before I see what video is about goodbye
I very much appreciate the content of the videos, but the musical intro is atrocious.
Excellent interview, very interesting. The Gannet was one of my first plastic models in the 60s. It was also first introduced the year I was born.