Jyoti Rai phule was a missionary product and I wouldn't count him, ram mohan roy and others who were not at all connected to Indian culture and looked up to Goras. Ram Mohan Roy requested the British to bring "English Education". Terrible person. No wonder the British started calling him Raja even though he was never one. Also, we know that the narrative about Sati is just atrocity lit thx to the work of Meenakshi Jain who's shown clearly the reality of how it was very rare and only happened in certain areas as a social reaction to certain things. Considering the areas where it happened, I think we all know why it was happening there.
Its for Hindu Society and Gurus to consider minimum expectations out of a practicing-Hindu is who he 1. Believes in Karma and reincarnation/rebirth 2. Respects Bharat as ArshaBhumi and Venerate Hindu Gods, Goddesses 3. If NirgunaUpasak, do not demean moorthipuja and respect Hindu Kshetras and pilgrimage 4. No bar on eating meat except CowMeat as Cows are taken care and venerated as GouMaata. 5. Treats such Hindus as equals and help as much as he can for a propserous Hindu Samaaj 🕉
Love your show. Next time you discuss Bhakti Movement, please add Narsimha Mehta from Gujarat. From 7-8th century I believe. Some of his buajans literally tells about Brahman Karamkandi sustem and he used to goto Harijan nivas to song bhajans and did not care about “Nagar Brahman Caste”. He raised questions about birth based caste system and he was a devout Krushna Bhakt- just like Meerabai.
"vaishnav Jan to tene kahiyeje jo peer parayi Jane re" This great bhajan was written by Narsi ironically no one outside Gujarat knows that as it is associated with Gandhi.
When Gurudev Srinarayana guru was questioned by the " upper caste" for the Siva temple made for the " lower caste" he replied that " I worship an Ezhava Siva"
Sikh movement was part Or product of bhakti movement yet neo sikhs claims exclusiveness of their faith. You had earlier mentioned about Harjeet oberoi's book about changes in sikh society in 19th century, can u do a podcast on that, It will clear lot of confusion.
why is kushal always so aggressively-defensive on his own monologues? like chill out. not every single podacast needs to start with "i dont care if you don't agree".
Hindutva is an outcome of ongoing hindu modernity not hindu modernity per say. Zionism is not Jewish modernity but it's outcome. Hindutva is a political aspect of larger hindu modernity to be fair Amedkarism is also a form of hindu modernity.
Hindutva is the political aspect of Hinduism. It is not new, Hindu nationalism has been with us since ancient times, that why we have regarded Bharatvarsh as our holy motherland. Sure the boundaries of Bharat have changed quite a bit over time, once just North West India, but the Indian union grew to include the South and the East. What defined us was not geography though, it was Hinduism, not just the the Vedic traditions, but generally Dharamic ethos that we also call "Aryan" "Bharata" is still limiting because Indian history goes back further than the Bharatas and further back than the Puru's. When India becomes the new superpower again I want to have its name changed back to"Aryavarta" We need to own this term again. By owning it, not only do we restore our memory of our great civilization, we also reclaim the word "Aryan" back from Europe and confidently assert our identity.
Why do you feel the need to fit India in to the Western intellectual mould? Modernity is a concept that is specific to Western Europe and by extension to the US, Canada, Australia. It hardly applies to India. Sad to see that Indians still feel the need to be validated by comparing themselves to the colonists.
@@bhanuprasad72 because it is a consequence of European history, culture and culture. Carvak is trying to see if/how india can fit into that mould which is a bit pointless unless you think modernity is a worthwhile objective.
😂 funny how the questionnaire session is taken over by abhijit’s beef photo from 2017… in his defence i can say that cow was not killed to spite hindus… people get so offended by someone else’s diet, no wonder we are a republic of hurt feelings…
@@ajaychandra2457 iss video mein tho kushal ne abhijit ke topic ke barey mein bath karne se mana kar di, but there were just too many questions about it... I guess you can find those questions from past the 59:00 min mark
Cow is holy in Hinduism. Our ancestors have died fighting against cow slaughter for centuries. You're making a mockery of their sacrifices by considering cow as "meat" What's wrong with you idi0t?
AIM just wanted to trigger the trads and his plan succeeded. Trads hurled casteist slurs at him .I am not in favour of eating beef but these abusive trads on twitter need to be taught a lesson. Reporting their accounts, filing cases on their casteist tweets should be the way forward to make social media free from these anonymous so called rakshaks of Hindus
@@cricfan4264 How different is your mauga Abhijit from those Turkic b@rbarians who used to slaughter cows just to "trigger" Hindus? Consumption of beef is abhorrent to Hindus. Every religious Hindu who has affinity towards cow will get offended. You don't feel this affinity cuz you're not a religious Hindu. Admit it. You're just an islamophobic liberal. Not a Hindu. Hence you go around labelling every religious Hindu as "trad"
Diversity of traditions and practices should not be mistaken for a license for laissez faire, and ‘an anything goes, there are no rules’ don’t care kind of attitude. And certainly not for gratuitously rubbing other people’s faces in acts of sacrilege just for kicks
Yeah, i never thought of that too though i usually associated with proto equilitarian modern principles. He missed another conteroversial point, in 2011 Jonardon ganeri wrote a book the lost age of reason arguing for indian philosophical modernity and in stanford articles they literally write analytical philosophy in early modern india.
Meerabai was the first Feminist! She chose her path and if she was in West at that time- she would have been sacrificed to Witch hunting over-there. But Indian- so-called old style society called her the Bhakta and her songs are so popular even today. These Bhakts kept the sanatani ideals and languages alive by their social and psychological uplifting.
All the four or five points KM came up with for Hindu modernity will come to a zilch if we don’t take care of our air, water and soil conditions. Time Hindutva activists started addressing ecology concerns which are likely to take lives by the millions in the coming decades.
Problem with AIM is that he is through and through a western right winger. Some pretty racist comments he made some time ago about African blacks prove how entangled he is with western alt right stream of thoughts. So no real surprise he eating stake. Eating beef in public is a deal breaker for our movement.
Better than being a right winger inspired by Congress's socialism with addition of hindutva. That's basically a communist with hindutva. Average rw Indian is more similar to sjw woke leftist. There are very few real right wingers in hindutva, veer savarkar was a true right winger and founder of hindutva movement
I have seen even normal Indians using racist slurs forget about African American even for fellow Indians . And what movement the non left is very heterogenous group there are conservatives,liberals,trads, libetatrians etc.
KUSHAL IS YOU DONT LIKE ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT YOU DONT LIKE WHY DO WE EVEN ASK THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE???? we cant only be asking questions that you want us to ask. If that were a case, list down all the topics that you want us to ask.
one hs to place th frame thus th borders f whatevr yr focussing on... im not sure of yr timeframe coz th past is already negotiated but th future is fluid
Applied to society and culture modern doesn't mean better or and modernism may not be progress though books on science with the title containing "Modern" usually did signify progress in science.
I am a Pakistan from Peshawar. Love you 1947. I believe Hindutva is the highest form of culture (that indians could reach) in the modern world and its already here. Hindutva is "Neo-pagan racial national socialism" and its features are: Instead of industrialization, its focus is on Primitivism and Nature-love, instead of capitalism it focuses on Racial Social-ism, (Fatherland is Holyland) instead of mass literacy it focuses on Aesthetic Phenomenology (Song and Dance as forms of worship of Nature), instead of urbanization dictated by clock time, it focuses on Village-life dictated by the natural time of sun/moon & Holy Rivers. Hence Nature, Race, Song & Dance are essentials of Hindutva making it a finished recipe of the highest form, that culture could reach during the start of 1900s. i think you are bringing alien elements into it by focusing on industry, capital, literacy and urban cities. You will alienate the original finished recipe of the highest form of Hindu culture. Hindutva is now ONLY meant to be followed, i urge Hindus (the entire list) to Please stop thinking or reflecting on it.
I think you have read something else in the name of hindutva 🤔 as hindutva has nothing no stand on economy and worship so it has nothing to do with hindutva and father land hindutva's speciality is it evolves with time and need of surrounding in the end hindutva is ongoing evolution that's how it always remains relative and still it is aligned with culture. And sorry race has no place in hindutva as Savarkar himself said the one may be born outside of India but still if they feel devotion towards this country than they are hindu and as much part of hindutva. So in conclusion hindutva has nothing to do with race or worship of any kind 🙄 and why you want to play in binary I don't get that either this or that nature love has nothing to do with industrialization atleast in the time of global warming and again hindutva has no role to play in where people want to live their life in urban city or village. If we consider Savarkar he wanted literacy and science to prevail in indian society. So your definition just contradicted his statement.
@@stefano1405 "hindutva's specialty is it evolves and it always remains relative, Savarkar wanted literacy and science and hindutva has no role to play in where people want to live their life in urban city or village". If it is not built on Fixed ideas of return to Nature and privillage of village to city, Race (Father land is Holy land), Holy rivers are our Race, Song and Dance are the primary privileged form of communion with the gods and hence worship of them, then what paganism is left? If it is not "Neo-pagan racial national socialism", What is "Binding" upon you?
@@shehzadnoor9907 freedom of opinion and belief but most accurately Dharma is the binding force of this culture I guess 🙄 and Dharma itself becomes corrupt the time you try to put it in words
@@stefano1405 Dharma can not be just feelings, random aesthetics and psychology. There must be a "Thus spoke Dharma" moment that gives Doctrine. Example, question?: What is the origin of man? what is the relation between God and man? Islam: 1) Adam is made from clay "Fall of Adam from the heavens". 2) Shariah Laws (Islamic jurisprudence) What is the answer in dharma? if i did not make myself clear. Ok let me put it another way. Dharma must have a fixed binding fundamental question? An originating worry? an essential dread? In islam: As a Pakistani i must be a "Slave of Allah". Anything else is suffering and dread.
@@shehzadnoor9907Dharma can't be put in words as words hold their own limits but if you're asking me to put Dharma as a concept in words than anything which uphold you from within is Dharma.
Sir the reason I asked the question wasn't because I hate Kerala or Keralites, other than the government I love it coz it's one of India's states, the reason I asked was because even my state Karnataka has similar primary health care standards, like the number of beds and primary healthcare is similar and, atleast Bangalore is far better in health standards than them, but still the system was overwhelmed. Oxygen supply wasn't adequate to some places and a lot of stuff happened, and then again Kerala's government is similar to or even more corrupt than Karnataka's government and yet this happened, this is why I had asked the question, but yea GPay doesn't allow me to write a lot of words in the questions and I find Twitter annoying
perhaps yre not aware tht matriarchy survives nomatter wht LAW is passed, tht modernity hs resulted in femilinial bonding re children... which survives th babymakin factory mandatory fr dna(quam, community etcetc)
Just 1 thing: If possible Contribute via UPI. Why? Bcoz in Superchats 55% ka "Kan Kan ki Guga ho jata hai" 😁😁 Best example was tum kya Radhe Maa jaise saaf ho?😂
Hindutva as it is currently has its fundamentals wrong. So no amount of correction at higher levels will stabilize the monolith. Deviating from ways of Vedas or at least modern re-understanding of Vedas is a folly and will come to bite. Hindu modernization is required, but the current Hindutva is a wrong step, better take it back and set the correct foot forward. I understand I am saying this in vacuum and not commenting on what is wrong. But it is just a comment I want to put forward for not accepting the thesis of this podcast although it has a question mark in it, that is the probable conclusion of this podcast according to show notes.
आपको पूरा सुना आपकी कुछ बाते भी अच्छी लगी कुछ नही लगी।ये देश घटिया नही है आपकी ऐसी सोच घटिया है।और जो गाय को खाते है वो कभी हिंदू नही हो सकते।और आपके बातो में arrogance दिखता है जो मुझे पसंद नही आया।suscribe नही करूँगा।
Even though iam a vegetarian I support people who want to eat beef . I mean what's the problem Jain's don't eat or support eating any kind of meat but they are not making fuss over other people eating meat.
@@h.q.642 oh come on dude hindus also eat beef. And about climate why just beef or meat ban all diary ,poultry industries even agricultural practices hurt the environment.
i just want peole to understand that not every community considered hindu has the same views on meat eating and beef in particular. the beef eating taboo is most strong in the punjab to bihar belt, and particulary more so the higher up the caste was traditionally. secondly, buffalos are not beef, and it can be argued that the ancient tradition is limited to Zebu cattle and not European Taurine cattle. it is a spectrum.. the fact that Kashmiri brahmins eat meat and that in bengal meat is served during puja, implies that different hindu groups have different takes. if not for modern thought, this idea of a universal taboo on beef eating would be alien to many communities. just like everything else in Hinduism, there are exceptions and drastic differences from one place/community to another... this is the same with beef. if you believe that the hindi-belt / upper caste attitude towards beef should be universal, then i need to remind you, you're not a gatekeeper, and that you're a turd.
Can't make these d0Its understand! These guys want to monitor what a person eats. They watch a "Carvaka" but in their head they have become "Abrahamic".
No hindu eats indian cow. Stop lying. Even us telugu hindus protect the cow. It is basically the turks that brought in cow slaughter and temple pillaging as a package to incite Hindus. And you are still supporting without educating yourself. How do we reach people like you? Please know the history of your ancestors, i beg of you.
Yeah just be nilhistic. Everything is same. There are no values, no limits, no constraints, no effort, no understanding. Everything is passe. Even Jews who are global elites in NY don't do this! That's why they survive. If there are no rules, there is no LIMITED individual and communal commitment, how can you be part of any group? Sounds stupid to me. Wearing kurta pajama and eating mithai on Diwali while doing a photoshoot is not Hinduism. Any random !idiot I pick from any part of the world can do it!
@@sameerturki4317 Yes, it is. And not just because it's docile. Protection and veneration of cows and what the cow spiritually represents is central to Hinduism. You might think of it as trivial but all the highly lionized philosophies/ritualism of Samkhya, yoga, tantra, mantra, yantra are not at odds with this. Especially the cow. All animals if you belong to certain Hindu sects.
@@sameerturki4317 You can do it for Chickens as well if you want to. No one is stopping you. And I am no authority do whatever the faack you want to. You don't want to read the books, you aren't observant of the cultural ethos, you probably hate trad gurus - and that's fine frankly. You might be a good human, but I just don't get how you can be a Hindu at all.
0:52 😍 my name
I respect every religion that is Hinduism 😚
Respect my relgion too...is Hindutva 😤
Badiya kaam krte ho bhaiya, may not agree with with some view but do find it amazing
Taliban. Sea. Bhibadeya. Kaam. 10..
Saal. Ki. Ladkeeyo. Sea. Reap
Jyoti Rai phule was a missionary product and I wouldn't count him, ram mohan roy and others who were not at all connected to Indian culture and looked up to Goras. Ram Mohan Roy requested the British to bring "English Education". Terrible person. No wonder the British started calling him Raja even though he was never one. Also, we know that the narrative about Sati is just atrocity lit thx to the work of Meenakshi Jain who's shown clearly the reality of how it was very rare and only happened in certain areas as a social reaction to certain things. Considering the areas where it happened, I think we all know why it was happening there.
Interesting and very informative Thanks Who would you call Abrahamic Hindus and how can a Hindu be seen as Abrahamic?
Its for Hindu Society and Gurus to consider minimum expectations out of a practicing-Hindu is who he
1. Believes in Karma and reincarnation/rebirth
2. Respects Bharat as ArshaBhumi and Venerate Hindu Gods, Goddesses
3. If NirgunaUpasak, do not demean moorthipuja and respect Hindu Kshetras and pilgrimage
4. No bar on eating meat except CowMeat as Cows are taken care and venerated as GouMaata.
5. Treats such Hindus as equals and help as much as he can for a propserous Hindu Samaaj
🕉
Love your show. Next time you discuss Bhakti Movement, please add Narsimha Mehta from Gujarat. From 7-8th century I believe. Some of his buajans literally tells about Brahman Karamkandi sustem and he used to goto Harijan nivas to song bhajans and did not care about “Nagar Brahman Caste”. He raised questions about birth based caste system and he was a devout Krushna Bhakt- just like Meerabai.
"vaishnav Jan to tene kahiyeje jo peer parayi Jane re"
This great bhajan was written by Narsi ironically no one outside Gujarat knows that as it is associated with Gandhi.
When Gurudev Srinarayana guru was questioned by the " upper caste" for the Siva temple made for the " lower caste" he replied that " I worship an Ezhava Siva"
Sikh movement was part Or product of bhakti movement yet neo sikhs claims exclusiveness of their faith. You had earlier mentioned about Harjeet oberoi's book about changes in sikh society in 19th century, can u do a podcast on that, It will clear lot of confusion.
why is kushal always so aggressively-defensive on his own monologues? like chill out. not every single podacast needs to start with "i dont care if you don't agree".
man you are just like Ben shapiro
37:00 quite good points
Aak.. Ankh. Sea. Deakhna. Valea. Tab. Kaha. Kasmir. Mea ghar. Chinkar. Jaab. Kursi. Par. Beath. Kar
Dusro. Ko. Bura. Batana. Jaab. Taleban. Ko. Bagdadi. Benladen. Ko
Sekhayga
Hindutva is an outcome of ongoing hindu modernity not hindu modernity per say.
Zionism is not Jewish modernity but it's outcome.
Hindutva is a political aspect of larger hindu modernity to be fair Amedkarism is also a form of hindu modernity.
Excellent Title...
Not any cow, Hindu sentiments is only for Zebu cattle, Bos Taurus Indicus
Hindutva is the political aspect of Hinduism. It is not new, Hindu nationalism has been with us since ancient times, that why we have regarded Bharatvarsh as our holy motherland. Sure the boundaries of Bharat have changed quite a bit over time, once just North West India, but the Indian union grew to include the South and the East. What defined us was not geography though, it was Hinduism, not just the the Vedic traditions, but generally Dharamic ethos that we also call "Aryan"
"Bharata" is still limiting because Indian history goes back further than the Bharatas and further back than the Puru's. When India becomes the new superpower again I want to have its name changed back to"Aryavarta" We need to own this term again. By owning it, not only do we restore our memory of our great civilization, we also reclaim the word "Aryan" back from Europe and confidently assert our identity.
Without knowing that rebirth and Karma works no point being a Hindu.Charvaka are and will never be mainstream Hindu.
Why do you feel the need to fit India in to the Western intellectual mould?
Modernity is a concept that is specific to Western Europe and by extension to the US, Canada, Australia. It hardly applies to India.
Sad to see that Indians still feel the need to be validated by comparing themselves to the colonists.
Why is modernity specific to US? How are you defining modernity?
@@bhanuprasad72 because it is a consequence of European history, culture and culture. Carvak is trying to see if/how india can fit into that mould which is a bit pointless unless you think modernity is a worthwhile objective.
Bruh , u need some classes in economics
😂 funny how the questionnaire session is taken over by abhijit’s beef photo from 2017… in his defence i can say that cow was not killed to spite hindus…
people get so offended by someone else’s diet, no wonder we are a republic of hurt feelings…
Yaar time frame kya hai abhijit topik ka ??
@@ajaychandra2457 iss video mein tho kushal ne abhijit ke topic ke barey mein bath karne se mana kar di, but there were just too many questions about it...
I guess you can find those questions from past the 59:00 min mark
Cow is holy in Hinduism. Our ancestors have died fighting against cow slaughter for centuries. You're making a mockery of their sacrifices by considering cow as "meat"
What's wrong with you idi0t?
AIM just wanted to trigger the trads and his plan succeeded. Trads hurled casteist slurs at him .I am not in favour of eating beef but these abusive trads on twitter need to be taught a lesson. Reporting their accounts, filing cases on their casteist tweets should be the way forward to make social media free from these anonymous so called rakshaks of Hindus
@@cricfan4264 How different is your mauga Abhijit from those Turkic b@rbarians who used to slaughter cows just to "trigger" Hindus?
Consumption of beef is abhorrent to Hindus. Every religious Hindu who has affinity towards cow will get offended. You don't feel this affinity cuz you're not a religious Hindu.
Admit it. You're just an islamophobic liberal. Not a Hindu. Hence you go around labelling every religious Hindu as "trad"
Diversity of traditions and practices should not be mistaken for a license for laissez faire, and ‘an anything goes, there are no rules’ don’t care kind of attitude. And certainly not for gratuitously rubbing other people’s faces in acts of sacrilege just for kicks
Hindu. Kea. Ghar. Mea. Rahengea. Hindu. Ko. Gulam. Banayngea. Hindu
Ko gyan
Rules are their on panth level
Interesting take on bhakti movements being a version of hindu modernity. Never thought about it that way.
Yeah, i never thought of that too though i usually associated with proto equilitarian modern principles. He missed another conteroversial point, in 2011 Jonardon ganeri wrote a book the lost age of reason arguing for indian philosophical modernity and in stanford articles they literally write analytical philosophy in early modern india.
Meerabai was the first Feminist! She chose her path and if she was in West at that time- she would have been sacrificed to Witch hunting over-there. But Indian- so-called old style society called her the Bhakta and her songs are so popular even today. These Bhakts kept the sanatani ideals and languages alive by their social and psychological uplifting.
All the four or five points KM came up with for Hindu modernity will come to a zilch if we don’t take care of our air, water and soil conditions. Time Hindutva activists started addressing ecology concerns which are likely to take lives by the millions in the coming decades.
Problem with AIM is that he is through and through a western right winger. Some pretty racist comments he made some time ago about African blacks prove how entangled he is with western alt right stream of thoughts. So no real surprise he eating stake. Eating beef in public is a deal breaker for our movement.
Better than being a right winger inspired by Congress's socialism with addition of hindutva. That's basically a communist with hindutva. Average rw Indian is more similar to sjw woke leftist. There are very few real right wingers in hindutva, veer savarkar was a true right winger and founder of hindutva movement
Gyan. Vo. Hindu. Ko. Dea. Jo. Mehnat. Pasina. Baha kar.. Kesi. Ka
Achcha. Keya. Ho. Lutearo. Sea. Nahi. Sekhna
What movement are you talking about? And the Hindus that eat beef are not Hindu for you?
I have seen even normal Indians using racist slurs forget about African American even for fellow Indians .
And what movement the non left is very heterogenous group there are conservatives,liberals,trads, libetatrians etc.
@@praz7 Right left is a western paradigm, we should not even follow that IMO.
Kushal Bhaiya what do you think about Savarkar's defintion of a Hindu doesnt it encompass all the people required?
Hindu gulami. Karea. Marta. Rahea
Chup. Rahea. Kmunist. Supar. Hea
Bena. Kuch. Keya. Vo. Vo. Bura. Muslman. Kuch. Karea. Vo. Nahi
Dekhta
Hindu. Ko. Manvta. Vo. Kmunist. Sekhyga. Jo. Karodo. Jaan. Ensaniyat kee. Leata. Koi. Kala. Koi
Braun. Serya. Eraak. Yaman. Mea. Hindu. Nahi
Sahi hai bhaiya head shave kar liya apne bhi. 2 mahine tak haircut ka jhanjat nhi
KUSHAL IS YOU DONT LIKE ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT YOU DONT LIKE WHY DO WE EVEN ASK THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE???? we cant only be asking questions that you want us to ask. If that were a case, list down all the topics that you want us to ask.
I think he only answer questions of superchats
one hs to place th frame thus th borders f whatevr yr focussing on... im not sure of yr timeframe coz th past is already negotiated but th future is fluid
Hindu fascism
Applied to society and culture modern doesn't mean better or and modernism may not be progress though books on science with the title containing "Modern" usually did signify progress in science.
I am a Pakistan from Peshawar. Love you 1947.
I believe Hindutva is the highest form of culture (that indians could reach) in the modern world and its already here.
Hindutva is "Neo-pagan racial national socialism" and its features are:
Instead of industrialization, its focus is on Primitivism and Nature-love,
instead of capitalism it focuses on Racial Social-ism, (Fatherland is Holyland)
instead of mass literacy it focuses on Aesthetic Phenomenology (Song and Dance as forms of worship of Nature),
instead of urbanization dictated by clock time, it focuses on Village-life dictated by the natural time of sun/moon & Holy Rivers.
Hence Nature, Race, Song & Dance are essentials of Hindutva making it a finished recipe of the highest form, that culture could reach during the start of 1900s.
i think you are bringing alien elements into it by focusing on industry, capital, literacy and urban cities. You will alienate the original finished recipe of the highest form of Hindu culture.
Hindutva is now ONLY meant to be followed, i urge Hindus (the entire list) to Please stop thinking or reflecting on it.
I think you have read something else in the name of hindutva 🤔 as hindutva has nothing no stand on economy and worship so it has nothing to do with hindutva and father land hindutva's speciality is it evolves with time and need of surrounding in the end hindutva is ongoing evolution that's how it always remains relative and still it is aligned with culture. And sorry race has no place in hindutva as Savarkar himself said the one may be born outside of India but still if they feel devotion towards this country than they are hindu and as much part of hindutva. So in conclusion hindutva has nothing to do with race or worship of any kind 🙄 and why you want to play in binary I don't get that either this or that nature love has nothing to do with industrialization atleast in the time of global warming and again hindutva has no role to play in where people want to live their life in urban city or village. If we consider Savarkar he wanted literacy and science to prevail in indian society. So your definition just contradicted his statement.
@@stefano1405 "hindutva's specialty is it evolves and it always remains relative, Savarkar wanted literacy and science and hindutva has no role to play in where people want to live their life in urban city or village".
If it is not built on Fixed ideas of
return to Nature and privillage of village to city,
Race (Father land is Holy land), Holy rivers are our Race,
Song and Dance are the primary privileged form of communion with the gods and hence worship of them, then what paganism is left? If it is not "Neo-pagan racial national socialism", What is "Binding" upon you?
@@shehzadnoor9907 freedom of opinion and belief but most accurately Dharma is the binding force of this culture I guess 🙄 and Dharma itself becomes corrupt the time you try to put it in words
@@stefano1405 Dharma can not be just feelings, random aesthetics and psychology. There must be a "Thus spoke Dharma" moment that gives Doctrine.
Example, question?: What is the origin of man? what is the relation between God and man?
Islam: 1) Adam is made from clay "Fall of Adam from the heavens". 2) Shariah Laws (Islamic jurisprudence)
What is the answer in dharma?
if i did not make myself clear. Ok let me put it another way. Dharma must have a fixed binding fundamental question? An originating worry? an essential dread?
In islam: As a Pakistani i must be a "Slave of Allah". Anything else is suffering and dread.
@@shehzadnoor9907Dharma can't be put in words as words hold their own limits but if you're asking me to put Dharma as a concept in words than anything which uphold you from within is Dharma.
Why has my comment been deleted??
Sir the reason I asked the question wasn't because I hate Kerala or Keralites, other than the government I love it coz it's one of India's states, the reason I asked was because even my state Karnataka has similar primary health care standards, like the number of beds and primary healthcare is similar and, atleast Bangalore is far better in health standards than them, but still the system was overwhelmed. Oxygen supply wasn't adequate to some places and a lot of stuff happened, and then again Kerala's government is similar to or even more corrupt than Karnataka's government and yet this happened, this is why I had asked the question, but yea GPay doesn't allow me to write a lot of words in the questions and I find Twitter annoying
perhaps yre not aware tht matriarchy survives nomatter wht LAW is passed, tht modernity hs resulted in femilinial bonding re children... which survives th babymakin factory mandatory fr dna(quam, community etcetc)
13:17 Daryl Davis. Legend.
I like to see this guy call Modi a nincompoop for destroying Hinduism.
rss is guru oriented, thus overrides dna... bt ignores matriarchy thus truncates its future
Every Hindtuva modernity follower do not subscribe to RSS. For example me. I have my issues with sangh but not with Hindutva.
हिंदूस्थानी हो तो हिंदी में बात करे.
Just 1 thing: If possible Contribute via UPI. Why? Bcoz in Superchats 55% ka
"Kan Kan ki Guga ho jata hai" 😁😁
Best example was tum kya Radhe Maa jaise saaf ho?😂
Excellent assessment
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Hindutva as it is currently has its fundamentals wrong. So no amount of correction at higher levels will stabilize the monolith. Deviating from ways of Vedas or at least modern re-understanding of Vedas is a folly and will come to bite. Hindu modernization is required, but the current Hindutva is a wrong step, better take it back and set the correct foot forward.
I understand I am saying this in vacuum and not commenting on what is wrong. But it is just a comment I want to put forward for not accepting the thesis of this podcast although it has a question mark in it, that is the probable conclusion of this podcast according to show notes.
आपको पूरा सुना आपकी कुछ बाते भी अच्छी लगी कुछ नही लगी।ये देश घटिया नही है आपकी ऐसी सोच घटिया है।और जो गाय को खाते है वो कभी हिंदू नही हो सकते।और आपके बातो में arrogance दिखता है जो मुझे पसंद नही आया।suscribe नही करूँगा।
Even though iam a vegetarian I support people who want to eat beef .
I mean what's the problem Jain's don't eat or support eating any kind of meat but they are not making fuss over other people eating meat.
Meat should be taxed
@@ashishpatel350 why just meat why not sugar tax it too it is also harmful for health can lead to serious diseases.
MATLAB kucch bhi .
@@smoky3302 not worried about sugar what's wrong with taxing a product that is destructive to the environment?
No wonder India is such a shithole
Do you know how beef is used against Hindus ? People are forced to eat it . And do you know the impact of beef industry on climate ?
@@h.q.642 oh come on dude hindus also eat beef.
And about climate why just beef or meat ban all diary ,poultry industries even agricultural practices hurt the environment.
i just want peole to understand that not every community considered hindu has the same views on meat eating and beef in particular. the beef eating taboo is most strong in the punjab to bihar belt, and particulary more so the higher up the caste was traditionally.
secondly, buffalos are not beef, and it can be argued that the ancient tradition is limited to Zebu cattle and not European Taurine cattle.
it is a spectrum.. the fact that Kashmiri brahmins eat meat and that in bengal meat is served during puja, implies that different hindu groups have different takes. if not for modern thought, this idea of a universal taboo on beef eating would be alien to many communities.
just like everything else in Hinduism, there are exceptions and drastic differences from one place/community to another... this is the same with beef.
if you believe that the hindi-belt / upper caste attitude towards beef should be universal, then i need to remind you, you're not a gatekeeper, and that you're a turd.
Can't make these d0Its understand! These guys want to monitor what a person eats. They watch a "Carvaka" but in their head they have become "Abrahamic".
No hindu eats indian cow. Stop lying. Even us telugu hindus protect the cow. It is basically the turks that brought in cow slaughter and temple pillaging as a package to incite Hindus. And you are still supporting without educating yourself. How do we reach people like you? Please know the history of your ancestors, i beg of you.
@@vammukittu not a historical fact. There was eating in ancient times before buddha and mahivira, it only got reduced after vedanta came on the scene
Obviously, you wish your viewers/subscribers are a friggin wee bit more intelligent.
People hyperventilating over a person's eating habits! Peak Indianness.🤦🏻♂️
Yeah just be nilhistic. Everything is same. There are no values, no limits, no constraints, no effort, no understanding. Everything is passe. Even Jews who are global elites in NY don't do this! That's why they survive. If there are no rules, there is no LIMITED individual and communal commitment, how can you be part of any group? Sounds stupid to me. Wearing kurta pajama and eating mithai on Diwali while doing a photoshoot is not Hinduism. Any random !idiot I pick from any part of the world can do it!
@@nautiyogi8386 So, worshipping a docile animal is Hinduism for you?
@@sameerturki4317 Yes, it is. And not just because it's docile. Protection and veneration of cows and what the cow spiritually represents is central to Hinduism. You might think of it as trivial but all the highly lionized philosophies/ritualism of Samkhya, yoga, tantra, mantra, yantra are not at odds with this. Especially the cow. All animals if you belong to certain Hindu sects.
@@nautiyogi8386 Then why the outrage over cows then? Why not over chickens?
@@sameerturki4317 You can do it for Chickens as well if you want to. No one is stopping you. And I am no authority do whatever the faack you want to. You don't want to read the books, you aren't observant of the cultural ethos, you probably hate trad gurus - and that's fine frankly. You might be a good human, but I just don't get how you can be a Hindu at all.
GOBAR RELIGION 🕉️🐄💩