Looking at the original footage of Hitler & Goebbels, listening to the Audio, it feels like they exaggerated in this movie. That means, we are not sure if Hitler reacted like its shown in the movie.
@@germaniatv1870 alot of the content of this movie is based on whitnesses. nobody if us was there, but traudel jung was. and alot of it is based on her memories. a role in that movie is playin her
For me, one of the most intense scenes was when Magda Goebbels poisoned all of her children, one after the other.The silence in that scene was almost overbearing. It showed very impressively what kind of madness had manifested itself in our country and in Europe at that time.
Bruno Ganz was an amazing actor. He played Hitler like I always imagined him. When I saw this scene with my grandfather (he was 9 years old, when the war ended), it felt like a gut punch for both of us. My grandfather mumbled: „So that’s how he thought about my father? We did everything he wanted and he was talking like that about the soldiers, who fought and died for him?“ His father disappeared somewhere in Russia and was never found. I hold the hopes high, that someone might find his remains, so we can bury him next to my grandfather. 😢
Eine traurige Geschichte. Mein Großvater ist auch in Stalingrad gefallen und wir wissen auch nicht wo er beerdigt wurde . Es tut im Herzen weh, weil es kein Grab gibt, wo man Abschied nehmen konnte .RIP an alle Soldaten egal welcher Nation.🙏💜
@@blondkatze3547Das war für meinen Opa (und viele andere Menschen) am schlimmsten: Kein Grab für einen geliebten Menschen zu haben und nicht zu wissen, was geschah. Er konnte nie wirklich mit dem Verschwinden seines Vaters abschliessen. Er dachte halt, dass er vielleicht überlebt hat, aber nicht nach Hause kam. 😢
incredible acting is right. Bruno Ganz is such a sweet guy, and he was scared of over-doing it. He didn´t want to just do an impersonation or be funny.
The whole movie 'Downfall' is extremely intense. It lets you feel as being a part of the scenery. When watching it, you get the feeling of sitting with all the ministers, generals, officers, ordinary soldiers, and staff in the bunker the underground beneath Hitler's 'Neue Reichskanzlei' in Berlin of April 1945. It is one of, if not the best, World War II movies ever made. Bruno Ganz impersonates Hitler in a way no one did it before and after him.
Especially the guy defending the german soldiers gives one of the best single acting performances of all time.just look at the mico-expressions.but all actors in this movie did an awesome job.
Ulrich Matthes, who played Goebbels in this movie, said in a tv interview a few years later he had to play a totally different/positive role in his next movie to get rid of the evilness he had to perform here, iIrc.
Honest question: Was Goebbels really so evil? There is the Goebbels literature, his broadcasts ect... in all of his speeches he demands peace between the nations. The day England declared TOTAL WAR on Germany he made the "Total War" speech. So the time and context of Goebbels Total-War speech is distorted. Historically correct England declared Total-War until Capitulation on Germany and thats when Goebbels asked "Do you want the total war?". Historically correct England, Poland, USA refused all peace terms made by Germany. England attacked Germany for 6 months until Germany finally also declared war on England. And thats when Goebbels asked if the people are ready for a Total-War declared on Germany. - Looking at the Interviews Goebbels gave to the US & British press, the guy inb this Movie looks 100 times more evil as the real Goebbels. And when Goebbels speaks he sounds soft, humble and always demands peace in all of his speeches/interviews. And thats the point. That the real Goebbels does not act, speak and look like the Goebbels here in the movie. Im not holding the back of Goebbels, im just saying how it is. Thus: Goebbels asked if they are ready for "Total War" which was declared on Germany by Britain/USA as they declared war on Germany first. I dare you to research History before researching a movie.
Bruno Ganz, one-of-a-kind, former bearer of the Iffland-Ring (a ring for the best actor in the german speaking countries always chosen by the former bearer of the ring after his death) - imo as a movie nut, only comparable to Daniel Day-Lewis; just my 2 cents
Are those the official subtitles? Because they are already wrong here: Hitler doesn't say "If Steiner attacks", he says "With Stainers attack" - so not "if", but "when". That distinction is quite important in this scene.
Certainly a master piece of acting by Bruno Ganz. Not only does he look like Hitler, he sounds like him as well. Just watch the whole movie, obviously there is a english version available.
The late great Bruno Ganz ❤️ Man, he was so captivating in every single role he played. By the way, Bruno Ganz was bearer of the Iffland-Ring, a symbol for the greatest actor in the German speaking world, passed on by will from actor to actor.
Today this movie is well recieved and alongside Das Boot one of the best war / anti war films ever made. However. When diretor Oliver Hirschbiegl first pitched his idea, to show Hitler based on a biography of his employees, there was outrage. Many people couldnt understand how he wanted (quote) "to show a moster as a human" Hirschbiegl later said. "If the leaders of na*ipartie had been monsters, with horns and claws, it had been easy, BUT they were humans and THAT was the danger about them"
This. Not everyone understood or still understand (or perhaps just don't want to accept) that these were human acts. This is what humans are capable of at our worst.
Bruno Ganz was one hell of an actor. Bearer of the Iffland-Ring, which is the highest honorific title within the German-speaking acting community (theatre acting). It's a life-long title. And he had it for a reason.
The German film the Downfall with Bruno Ganz , who played Hitler , is great. You should also definitely see the German film The White Rose where Julia Jentsch plays the resistance fighter Sophie Scholl.
Bruno Graz was in fact Swiss, not German, and as has already been said a brilliant actor. It disturbed and saddened him that his performance as Adolf Hitler was 'abused' by trivial, cheap comedy 'adaptations'. For him, and countless others, the subject is too serious to trivialise - a matter of opinion I guess?
just to correct you .his name is "ganz". he is most famous for "der himmel über berlin" which is another german classic which has to be seen by international audience
There are many psychologically deep scenes in the film. The one that stands out to me is the impromptu "party" in the bunker towards the beginning of the film. Eva Von Braun asks everyone to dance to the swing music while Soviet artillery is pounding down from the outside. The peer pressure to conform to enjoy the "party" by denying the absurdity of their situation is palpable.
Bruno Ganz was one hell of an actor. I saw him before that movie in a several hours long theater production of Goethe's Faust parts I and II. He was a once in a century talent.
@@franksound6922 One factual error in 'The Rise of Evil' is that in Hitler's 1924 criminal trial, the Judge raps a gavel, which is not used in German courts at all. This little wooden hammer, generally known from British and U.S. court movies, has become so prevalent in popular imagination that it it regularly shown on stock images embellishing German press articles on law subjects and was even used in some German TV court shows.
It`s terrible. Both the movie and acting. The movie is far removed from any reality and history, the portrayal of Hitler is only absurd. This is a ridiculous movie. That's exactly the kind of nonsense noone needs.
@@Honkeydoodle Just one factual error that caught my attention as a German viewer: The judge in Hitler's high treason trial raps a gavel. This is what British and American judges do, as shown in numerous movies, but judges in German courts don't rap gavels. - In August 2010 I wrote about this in the Wikipedia article on the movie, but my remark was removed four weeks later as 'unverified'. Now try to "verify" something just does not exist... The whole long section 'Historical inaccuracies and criticism' has been removed later for lack of sources, last time on 16 September 2021.
back then in history class, we went to the cinema to watch that movie when it was on air. totally stunning on the big screen with the surround sound. we discussed the movie afterwards for a couple of classes. absolute must-watch and outstanding performance. best portrayal of hitler imo.
Bruno Ganz beyond words brilliant. The whole cast in this film brilliant - so true to what really happened since Traudl Jung was actually there as Hitlers secretary and it is basically her testimony. I think they should show it in schools
Downfall (Der Untergang) is a really good movie and portrays the history quite accurately (though compressed). If you want an explanation of the scene with more historical context given you might want to watch this video by The Great War: th-cam.com/video/3Uc4_ATDjoU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QNnxQsU8lIu4G44x Hitler is portrayed by the Swiss actor Bruno Ganz who has won some prices for that role. Downfall was also nominated for the Oscar as “best international movie” in 2005.
When I went to school in the 1970s/1980s, especially in the 9th and 10th grades, we students were inundated with the subject of the Third Reich and World War II. The topic was covered in the following classes: German, English, history, politics and social sciences. We were all sick of it, especially because the primary learning objective seemed to be to feel guilty. That's why I largely avoided watching any movies about that time after leaving school. I did, however, see the actor Bruno Ganz in other films and I would say that he was one of the great German speaking actors.
Can we please get Mert to watch "StarStarSpace"? I looked. It even got good english subtitles. Come on! Everyone comment on it. I want zo see this "deutsche Kulturgut" get the appreciation it utterly deserves.
Might have nothing to do with this movie or this "Mr. Steiner" in this scene, I guess, but in 1977 a movie was released called "Cross of Iron". It was produced in the UK, Germany and Jugoslavia ... The second part of this movie was even better. Steiner was played by the british actor Richard Burton (CBE) ... so if you are into this kind of movies, you should check it out.
While the movie itself is really good, the historical accuracy is to take with a grain of salt. It is based on the memoir of Traudl Junge, Hitler's secretary.And because that was not enough for the script, they had to use other sources. But: Who would have told anyone about what was said in this room for example? Hitler, Krebs, Burgdorf and Goebbels unalived themself in the bunker. Keitel, Jodl and Göring were executed by the Allies in October 1946. The people in front of the door could not have heard anything. It was a bomb shelter, with massive concrete walls (40-50 cm thick). The door were made of steel. You would not have understood anything... Overall, the movie is great and it might be the most historically accurate, but don't take it as gospel.
@@Ilogunde For Göring, who had once been a fighter pilot, it was certainly a last small triumph to have outwitted his opponents. A few years ago I saw an interview with one of the prosecutors at Nuremberg. I'm not entirely sure whether it was one of the British. In any case, he expressed the opinion that Alfred Jodl was rather unjustly sentenced to death. He said: "If someone like Speer had gotten off so lightly, Alfred Jodl would not have had to die..."
The movie is very respected. Especially Swiss actor Bruno Ganz got a lot of credit for this work. There was also a debate before the movie dropped, if it was ok to play Hitler as this human being, that he also was, of course. There was/is this justified fear, that if you present Hitler as a human being, you soften the horror he created, because you start to feel for him on a human level. It s a valid point and interesting conversation. Bruna Ganz refused to portray him in an over the top, comical fashion and delivered a masterpiece. He set a standard on how to play Hitler in movies. Everything else looks cheap and corny next to this performance now. The cast of the movie includes a lot the of top tier German actors. They did a fantastic job here. Of course it is very subjective, but German movies about WW2 or Nazis etc. feel much more real, authentic and cut much deeper imo. There‘s a different tone to it. The sets, the language, the details often seems more accurate and the sadness of it all comes across better
I brilliant movie and great acting, especially by Bruno Ganz. What really bothers me is that Germany is very often reduced to these horrible 12 years. When ever I am in the USA a meet people who know nothing about Germany but Hitler and Nazi. The picture they have about Herman is doesn’t fit. It’s an cliche that just don’t fit anymore if it ever fitted.
The performance is great, but it became a meme sadly. The meme is hilarious, but as a history student this almost rips me apart. The intense feeling throughout the movie vanishes as soon as Hitler starts ranting since the meme
Hitler was played by Bruno Ganz. Bruno Ganz had received numerous honors and awards. The most important was the Iffland Ring. This ring is passed on from an actor to the most important German-speaking actor, who then passes it on to the best actor after his death.
it's not among my favourites, since I need a bit of coziness to watch something again and again, but Der Untergang (german title of Downfall) is easily among the greatest war movies of all time and imo easily the most important. it makes clear that, while their acts and opinions might be despicable, the nazis are still human and THAT should be what makes their ideologies so terrifying. many american film makers portray the nazis as something that is just evil, often with some supernatural elements, and while that can make for good storytelling, it subtly warps the truth. it makes the whole threat an abstract one of inexplicable evil, but there are lessons to be learned and truths to uncover about ourselves as human beings.
" the nazis are still human " - this caused a lot of criticism back then, mainly but not limited to Germany. People obviously feel very uncomfortable with the fact that even the worst people in history were humans, that seeing them in this way points to the uncomfortable fact that everyone of us, in the right circumstances, might be capable of the vilest crimes, to the potential for evil in anybody.
And to imagine a swiss actor spoke the austrian accent so well (at the beginning with Traudl Junge)! German speakers know how hard that is! Ganz really was a great actor!
bruno ganz hat seine rolle so perfekt gespielt,unglaublich guter schauspieler,ich als deutscher finde besser wird es nicht,so würde ich mir hitler theoretisch vorstellen(vieleicht ein bisschen weniger geschrei privat),aber am ende des tages,kannte ihn niemand der noch lebt
I watched the movie few years ago. I found Ganz' Hitler a bit over the top. The casting of Goebbels with Ulrich Noethen (we saw him twice in this clip) was a mistake. Noethen is 1.90 m tall and as we all know Goebbels was a horny disabled Dwarf (he had a socalled "Klumpfuß"). I totally agree to the icyness of the scene when Magda Goebbels, played by the great Corinna Harfouch killed her children one by one.
Can anyone help me out by telling me why he pronounced the word Raum with an alveolar approximant (English R sound)? I'm certain I've heard this before in some German dialects but I can't find anything definitive and have no idea why Hitler (or possibly just the Swiss actor) would have pronounced it this way. Any help?
Hitler was Austrian and they most of the time pronounce the R close to the teeth instead of in the pharynx. But I think it could be due to Bruno Ganz being Swiss and being caught in the moment that he generated the a short soft R in the pharynx. In Switzerland we only pronounce the R in the pharynx, so I guess it’s probably because of that. It’s also said that Bruno Ganz studied Hitlers speech patterns meticulously so I think it was a deliberate choice. Depending on the German dialect both ways of pronouncing the R are correct. But I‘m only a layman, so I can’t really give a more indept explanation. Hope that still helps.
I thought the reaction is over the movie “Steiner Das eiserne Kreuz/Cross of Iron“😅 The Movie „Der Untergang/Downfall“ is Not Bad and some of the actors are incredible but there are better movies of the WWII out there.
According to various witnesses, what was shown actually happened in the Führerbunker. So it's all very authentic. There's nothing wrong with that. And the actors did a very good job...
Bruno Ganz the actor of Hitler deserved an oscar for his brilliant performance. He died 5 years ago. RIP
That's what's written under every damn video of a movie scene...it's getting boring.
Looking at the original footage of Hitler & Goebbels, listening to the Audio, it feels like they exaggerated in this movie. That means, we are not sure if Hitler reacted like its shown in the movie.
@@germaniatv1870 alot of the content of this movie is based on whitnesses. nobody if us was there, but traudel jung was. and alot of it is based on her memories. a role in that movie is playin her
And he is swiss, shows how german Hitler really was 😅
Mert should definetly make a second channel where he makes movie reactions
For me, one of the most intense scenes was when Magda Goebbels poisoned all of her children, one after the other.The silence in that scene was almost overbearing. It showed very impressively what kind of madness had manifested itself in our country and in Europe at that time.
Bruno Ganz was an amazing actor. He played Hitler like I always imagined him. When I saw this scene with my grandfather (he was 9 years old, when the war ended), it felt like a gut punch for both of us. My grandfather mumbled: „So that’s how he thought about my father? We did everything he wanted and he was talking like that about the soldiers, who fought and died for him?“ His father disappeared somewhere in Russia and was never found. I hold the hopes high, that someone might find his remains, so we can bury him next to my grandfather. 😢
Das ist eine Geschichte, die ans Herz geht, Jasmin.
Eine traurige Geschichte. Mein Großvater ist auch in Stalingrad gefallen und wir wissen auch nicht wo er beerdigt wurde . Es tut im Herzen weh, weil es kein Grab gibt, wo man Abschied nehmen konnte .RIP an alle Soldaten egal welcher Nation.🙏💜
@@blondkatze3547 Die Massengräber der Soviet-Kommunisten.
Imagination and Reality are two different things. 🙂
@@blondkatze3547Das war für meinen Opa (und viele andere Menschen) am schlimmsten: Kein Grab für einen geliebten Menschen zu haben und nicht zu wissen, was geschah. Er konnte nie wirklich mit dem Verschwinden seines Vaters abschliessen. Er dachte halt, dass er vielleicht überlebt hat, aber nicht nach Hause kam. 😢
incredible acting is right. Bruno Ganz is such a sweet guy, and he was scared of over-doing it. He didn´t want to just do an impersonation or be funny.
The whole movie 'Downfall' is extremely intense. It lets you feel as being a part of the scenery. When watching it, you get the feeling of sitting with all the ministers, generals, officers, ordinary soldiers, and staff in the bunker the underground beneath Hitler's 'Neue Reichskanzlei' in Berlin of April 1945. It is one of, if not the best, World War II movies ever made. Bruno Ganz impersonates Hitler in a way no one did it before and after him.
Especially the guy defending the german soldiers gives one of the best single acting performances of all time.just look at the mico-expressions.but all actors in this movie did an awesome job.
Downfall is a must watch
Ulrich Matthes, who played Goebbels in this movie, said in a tv interview a few years later he had to play a totally different/positive role in his next movie to get rid of the evilness he had to perform here, iIrc.
Honest question: Was Goebbels really so evil?
There is the Goebbels literature, his broadcasts ect... in all of his speeches he demands peace between the nations. The day England declared TOTAL WAR on Germany he made the "Total War" speech.
So the time and context of Goebbels Total-War speech is distorted.
Historically correct England declared Total-War until Capitulation on Germany and thats when Goebbels asked "Do you want the total war?".
Historically correct England, Poland, USA refused all peace terms made by Germany.
England attacked Germany for 6 months until Germany finally also declared war on England. And thats when Goebbels asked if the people are ready for a Total-War declared on Germany.
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Looking at the Interviews Goebbels gave to the US & British press, the guy inb this Movie looks 100 times more evil as the real Goebbels.
And when Goebbels speaks he sounds soft, humble and always demands peace in all of his speeches/interviews.
And thats the point. That the real Goebbels does not act, speak and look like the Goebbels here in the movie.
Im not holding the back of Goebbels, im just saying how it is.
Thus: Goebbels asked if they are ready for "Total War" which was declared on Germany by Britain/USA as they declared war on Germany first.
I dare you to research History before researching a movie.
Bruno Ganz, one-of-a-kind, former bearer of the Iffland-Ring (a ring for the best actor in the german speaking countries always chosen by the former bearer of the ring after his death) - imo as a movie nut, only comparable to Daniel Day-Lewis; just my 2 cents
Bruno Ganz's acting in this movie is an absolute masterpiece. I watched this movie several times and each time I am speachless.
Brilliant scene, brilliant actor! RIP 🙏🕊️
Are those the official subtitles? Because they are already wrong here: Hitler doesn't say "If Steiner attacks", he says "With Stainers attack" - so not "if", but "when". That distinction is quite important in this scene.
Certainly a master piece of acting by Bruno Ganz. Not only does he look like Hitler, he sounds like him as well. Just watch the whole movie, obviously there is a english version available.
The late great Bruno Ganz ❤️
Man, he was so captivating in every single role he played.
By the way, Bruno Ganz was bearer of the Iffland-Ring, a symbol for the greatest actor in the German speaking world, passed on by will from actor to actor.
Today this movie is well recieved and alongside Das Boot one of the best war / anti war films ever made.
However. When diretor Oliver Hirschbiegl first pitched his idea, to show Hitler based on a biography of his employees, there was outrage. Many people couldnt understand how he wanted (quote) "to show a moster as a human" Hirschbiegl later said. "If the leaders of na*ipartie had been monsters, with horns and claws, it had been easy, BUT they were humans and THAT was the danger about them"
This. Not everyone understood or still understand (or perhaps just don't want to accept) that these were human acts. This is what humans are capable of at our worst.
Bruno Ganz was one hell of an actor. Bearer of the Iffland-Ring, which is the highest honorific title within the German-speaking acting community (theatre acting). It's a life-long title. And he had it for a reason.
The German film the Downfall with Bruno Ganz , who played Hitler , is great. You should also definitely see the German film The White Rose where Julia Jentsch plays the resistance fighter Sophie Scholl.
She was great
Bruno Graz was in fact Swiss, not German, and as has already been said a brilliant actor. It disturbed and saddened him that his performance as Adolf Hitler was 'abused' by trivial, cheap comedy 'adaptations'. For him, and countless others, the subject is too serious to trivialise - a matter of opinion I guess?
just to correct you .his name is "ganz". he is most famous for "der himmel über berlin" which is another german classic which has to be seen by international audience
There are many psychologically deep scenes in the film. The one that stands out to me is the impromptu "party" in the bunker towards the beginning of the film. Eva Von Braun asks everyone to dance to the swing music while Soviet artillery is pounding down from the outside. The peer pressure to conform to enjoy the "party" by denying the absurdity of their situation is palpable.
Bruno Ganz was one hell of an actor. I saw him before that movie in a several hours long theater production of Goethe's Faust parts I and II. He was a once in a century talent.
One of the best german movies ever. If you can, watch the 170 minutes long TV-Version
Yes, watching this film is a must. The late Bruno Ganz's performance as Hitler was absolutely brilliant. Hopefully you'll do it soon.
The Rise of Evil...with Robert Carlyle (a Scot like you) as Hitler is tremendously good acting on Rob's side. He plays him so well, it's incredible!
Robert Carlyle is a great actor, but i m not sure i d agree to this statement.
It was solid, good, but not outstanding imo
@@franksound6922 One factual error in 'The Rise of Evil' is that in Hitler's 1924 criminal trial, the Judge raps a gavel, which is not used in German courts at all. This little wooden hammer, generally known from British and U.S. court movies, has become so prevalent in popular imagination that it it regularly shown on stock images embellishing German press articles on law subjects and was even used in some German TV court shows.
It`s terrible. Both the movie and acting. The movie is far removed from any reality and history, the portrayal of Hitler is only absurd. This is a ridiculous movie. That's exactly the kind of nonsense noone needs.
@@Honkeydoodle Just one factual error that caught my attention as a German viewer: The judge in Hitler's high treason trial raps a gavel. This is what British and American judges do, as shown in numerous movies, but judges in German courts don't rap gavels. - In August 2010 I wrote about this in the Wikipedia article on the movie, but my remark was removed four weeks later as 'unverified'. Now try to "verify" something just does not exist... The whole long section 'Historical inaccuracies and criticism' has been removed later for lack of sources, last time on 16 September 2021.
back then in history class, we went to the cinema to watch that movie when it was on air. totally stunning on the big screen with the surround sound.
we discussed the movie afterwards for a couple of classes.
absolute must-watch and outstanding performance. best portrayal of hitler imo.
My Grandmas name was Keitel they changed after the war when Keitel was sentenced to death in Nürnherg.
Bruno Ganz beyond words brilliant. The whole cast in this film brilliant - so true to what really happened since Traudl Jung was actually there as Hitlers secretary and it is basically her testimony. I think they should show it in schools
Great performance it's a shame internet memes turned it into a comedy skit something funny , it isn't !
Downfall (Der Untergang) is a really good movie and portrays the history quite accurately (though compressed).
If you want an explanation of the scene with more historical context given you might want to watch this video by The Great War: th-cam.com/video/3Uc4_ATDjoU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QNnxQsU8lIu4G44x
Hitler is portrayed by the Swiss actor Bruno Ganz who has won some prices for that role. Downfall was also nominated for the Oscar as “best international movie” in 2005.
Bruno did an exceptional job in this role. It's creepy how much he looked like Hitler in this movie.
The movie is the best you should watch it
When I went to school in the 1970s/1980s, especially in the 9th and 10th grades, we students were inundated with the subject of the Third Reich and World War II. The topic was covered in the following classes: German, English, history, politics and social sciences. We were all sick of it, especially because the primary learning objective seemed to be to feel guilty. That's why I largely avoided watching any movies about that time after leaving school.
I did, however, see the actor Bruno Ganz in other films and I would say that he was one of the great German speaking actors.
Swiss actor!
@@CES-z4d Oh. I didn't know that. I corrected my comment. Thank you.
Mon the Scots
Can we please get Mert to watch "StarStarSpace"? I looked. It even got good english subtitles. Come on! Everyone comment on it. I want zo see this "deutsche Kulturgut" get the appreciation it utterly deserves.
YES, PLEASE!!!😍
Might have nothing to do with this movie or this "Mr. Steiner" in this scene, I guess, but in 1977 a movie was released called "Cross of Iron". It was produced in the UK, Germany and Jugoslavia ... The second part of this movie was even better. Steiner was played by the british actor Richard Burton (CBE) ... so if you are into this kind of movies, you should check it out.
Sergant Steiner was played by James Coburn. It is not the Steiner Hitler is refering to in "Downfall". But true, a excellent movie.
Hitler is referring to Felix Steiner, General of the Waffen-SS.
While the movie itself is really good, the historical accuracy is to take with a grain of salt. It is based on the memoir of Traudl Junge, Hitler's secretary.And because that was not enough for the script, they had to use other sources.
But: Who would have told anyone about what was said in this room for example? Hitler, Krebs, Burgdorf and Goebbels unalived themself in the bunker. Keitel, Jodl and Göring were executed by the Allies in October 1946.
The people in front of the door could not have heard anything. It was a bomb shelter, with massive concrete walls (40-50 cm thick). The door were made of steel. You would not have understood anything...
Overall, the movie is great and it might be the most historically accurate, but don't take it as gospel.
Didn't Göring unalived himself in prison?
@@tigeriussvarne177 ups... You're right. He did this the evening before his scheduled execution...
@@Ilogunde For Göring, who had once been a fighter pilot, it was certainly a last small triumph to have outwitted his opponents. A few years ago I saw an interview with one of the prosecutors at Nuremberg. I'm not entirely sure whether it was one of the British. In any case, he expressed the opinion that Alfred Jodl was rather unjustly sentenced to death. He said: "If someone like Speer had gotten off so lightly, Alfred Jodl would not have had to die..."
Can I please untangle your headphones😅
The movie is very respected. Especially Swiss actor Bruno Ganz got a lot of credit for this work.
There was also a debate before the movie dropped, if it was ok to play Hitler as this human being, that he also was, of course. There was/is this justified fear, that if you present Hitler as a human being, you soften the horror he created, because you start to feel for him on a human level.
It s a valid point and interesting conversation.
Bruna Ganz refused to portray him in an over the top, comical fashion and delivered a masterpiece. He set a standard on how to play Hitler in movies. Everything else looks cheap and corny next to this performance now.
The cast of the movie includes a lot the of top tier German actors. They did a fantastic job here.
Of course it is very subjective, but German movies about WW2 or Nazis etc. feel much more real, authentic and cut much deeper imo. There‘s a different tone to it. The sets, the language, the details often seems more accurate and the sadness of it all comes across better
I brilliant movie and great acting, especially by Bruno Ganz. What really bothers me is that Germany is very often reduced to these horrible 12 years. When ever I am in the USA a meet people who know nothing about Germany but Hitler and Nazi. The picture they have about Herman is doesn’t fit. It’s an cliche that just don’t fit anymore if it ever fitted.
the subtitles are shit, unfortunately.
Kam die letzten Tage noch im tv
You have to watch this movie.
The performance is great, but it became a meme sadly. The meme is hilarious, but as a history student this almost rips me apart. The intense feeling throughout the movie vanishes as soon as Hitler starts ranting since the meme
Hitler was played by Bruno Ganz. Bruno Ganz had received numerous honors and awards. The most important was the Iffland Ring. This ring is passed on from an actor to the most important German-speaking actor, who then passes it on to the best actor after his death.
it's not among my favourites, since I need a bit of coziness to watch something again and again, but Der Untergang (german title of Downfall) is easily among the greatest war movies of all time and imo easily the most important. it makes clear that, while their acts and opinions might be despicable, the nazis are still human and THAT should be what makes their ideologies so terrifying.
many american film makers portray the nazis as something that is just evil, often with some supernatural elements, and while that can make for good storytelling, it subtly warps the truth. it makes the whole threat an abstract one of inexplicable evil, but there are lessons to be learned and truths to uncover about ourselves as human beings.
" the nazis are still human " - this caused a lot of criticism back then, mainly but not limited to Germany. People obviously feel very uncomfortable with the fact that even the worst people in history were humans, that seeing them in this way points to the uncomfortable fact that everyone of us, in the right circumstances, might be capable of the vilest crimes, to the potential for evil in anybody.
And to imagine a swiss actor spoke the austrian accent so well (at the beginning with Traudl Junge)! German speakers know how hard that is! Ganz really was a great actor!
bruno ganz hat seine rolle so perfekt gespielt,unglaublich guter schauspieler,ich als deutscher finde besser wird es nicht,so würde ich mir hitler theoretisch vorstellen(vieleicht ein bisschen weniger geschrei privat),aber am ende des tages,kannte ihn niemand der noch lebt
Ähm doch. Die beiden Mädels dort lebten noch.
I watched the movie few years ago. I found Ganz' Hitler a bit over the top. The casting of Goebbels with Ulrich Noethen (we saw him twice in this clip) was a mistake. Noethen is 1.90 m tall and as we all know Goebbels was a horny disabled Dwarf (he had a socalled "Klumpfuß"). I totally agree to the icyness of the scene when Magda Goebbels, played by the great Corinna Harfouch killed her children one by one.
Ulrich Mattes. Noethen was Himmler
Can anyone help me out by telling me why he pronounced the word Raum with an alveolar approximant (English R sound)?
I'm certain I've heard this before in some German dialects but I can't find anything definitive and have no idea why Hitler (or possibly just the Swiss actor) would have pronounced it this way.
Any help?
Hitler was Austrian and they most of the time pronounce the R close to the teeth instead of in the pharynx.
But I think it could be due to Bruno Ganz being Swiss and being caught in the moment that he generated the a short soft R in the pharynx.
In Switzerland we only pronounce the R in the pharynx, so I guess it’s probably because of that.
It’s also said that Bruno Ganz studied Hitlers speech patterns meticulously so I think it was a deliberate choice.
Depending on the German dialect both ways of pronouncing the R are correct.
But I‘m only a layman, so I can’t really give a more indept explanation. Hope that still helps.
@@keyboard5494 I think that was intentional.
he required psychological help after the movie. talk about sacrifices. rip....
The woman crying ugly tears outside
You should watch „how Hitler destroyed the German language“ by Fillie from germany
This part is also used to mock Trump in different ways
Doom wäre vielleicht besser
I thought the reaction is over the movie “Steiner Das eiserne Kreuz/Cross of Iron“😅
The Movie „Der Untergang/Downfall“ is Not Bad and some of the actors are incredible but there are better movies of the WWII out there.
Bad acting in my opinion...
Actually one of the worst post-war movie.
Why so? Just curious, since i am not from germany.
According to various witnesses, what was shown actually happened in the Führerbunker. So it's all very authentic. There's nothing wrong with that. And the actors did a very good job...
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I would like to know why you think this too?
@@stefaniegreen3054 same old same old. Just another "Guilt" movie.
A good Movie.