I liked your reaction and the comments, but about the lyrics, the pop sounds these days are very easy to interpret and Harry doesn't do that. You didn't understand some lyrics because you have to think about them. About Falling's lyrics, that verse probably talks about the last conversation he had with his ex girlfriend. That the coffee is over and this is killing him because they have nothing left to talk to each other and no more coffee to drink so he will have to leave. It's about the pain of knowing that this is their last moment. This is how you write poetry. This is much deeper than generic letters and you have to think a little to understand. To interpret. Metaphors are even more complicated to understand than we are used to. And Lights up is about finding out. No more wanting to go back to a place where you couldn't be yourself.
Um no actually their info about that was wrong. In the documentary we can hear him whistling a tune. At the time we didn't know. It's actually cherry. He was in only a towel wrapped around his waist and hair wet while holding a guitar. Cherry is the song that was made in under 12 minutes.
@@sarahlamar430 HI. The scene with the towel/guitar is from the Behind The Album doc from Harry's first album and filmed in Jamaica while recording that album so it really was not Cherry. In his interview with Zane Lowe about the album Fine Line, he describes getting out of the shower and hearing his friend Thomas Hull messing around on his piano. He then joined Thomas (also known as Kid Harpoon) and wrote a song in 20 minutes while wearing only that towel. Different album, different song, different towel altogether.
Sarah LaMar no lmao that’s different album, its the first album the scene you’re talking about. read his whole rolling stones interview, he said it himself.
He wrote TPWK about/for his fans and touring, there’s a quote about it in the Rolling Stone article by Rob Sheffield that goes track by track...he said his first solo tour really affected him, that he was so happy that people really wanted to see him being himself, when he wasn’t sure coming out of 1D if people would be interested in just him, singing music he wrote ❤️
Aww She is my favourite song. I love the vibe of it. I've noticed you're not always fans of the elusive metaphors but I think this album is meant to be like the emotional journey, high to low to finding yourself again and the emotions are carried in the instrumentals as much as lyrics. Like Watermelon Sugar reminds my lit student brain a lot of metaphysical poetic style, aka cheeky and kinda super explicit but not directly apparent so it can seem like a vague love song. I mean it's fair to give a response if you don't think that way in what they mean to you but for me the lyrics are better the more I let them sink in and also become very explicit... (also when he performed it live recently he had swirling visuals made from his album art where he is not exactly clothed that give quite a Georgie O'Keefe impression of blossoming flowers and such so.) I read some of the album performance reviews that said some of the less favourite songs on the album like TPWK are amazing live and actually really work so it'll be interesting to see if that holds up.
About lights up, the lyrics being vague, I don't feel that because if you'll pay attention it goes like, "What do you mean? I'm sorry by the way Never coming back down Can't you see? I could, but wouldn't stay Wouldn't put it like that What do you mean? I'm sorry by the way Never coming around Be so sweet if things just stayed the same" When he says he wouldn't put it like that he could mean "Oh no, that came out rude" and then in the next lines he rephrases that into a more subtle way of saying that he wants to move towards the light instead of staying in the dark with his (partner?/companion/ could be the reference to the media) he says it politely this time around, "(it would) be so sweet if things just stayed the same" but that's what, they aren't the same because he doesn't want to stay anymore. He wants out. The song is about self reflection and finding yourself, breaking the chains and wanting out.
The lyrics on this album are definitely deeper than the majority of pop going around at the moment, and that's very much not a criticism. It's a taste thing! To be honest it's almost refreshing to have some less obvious lyrics that you have to adapt and puzzle out. Thanks for enriching the discussion! - D
I think the "and if our friends all pass away, it's ok" lyrics is basically saying that there is no excuse not to be kind, even if you're going through shit, even if all your friends pass away you can still treat people with kindness... it made sense to me at least. Also, Harry plays guitar and does so in almost every song, he's not the main guitarist tho, Mitch (Rowland) as you were talking about is responsible for most of the epic guitar playing you were commenting on.
At 22:45, But what if it's not a link? Let's build a scenario here, and you'll have to bear with me and my wild imagination. But what if the two are sitting at their favourite coffee shop, Beachwood cafe, and they are here to talk and clear things for the better. And they sit, waiting for each other to say something that would give them something to hold on, a substance, something concrete. But they've both run out of things they can say to each other, they're both hanging by that fragile thread that can break any moment. And in this daunting situation where they just sit in silence in a coffee shop, their favourite coffees are not there either. They're out of coffee (or it could also mean that they have both finished their coffees and still haven't had the conversation they were supposed to have) and the minutes are passing agonising slow, because now they don't even have a coffee they can stir while they just simply stare at each other. I think the lyrics convey a lot here, even though they are vague.
Y’all are gonna come at me for this but “she” gives me transitioning vibes. As in, if you listen to the song with this is in mind; she, me, and he all being Harry...You’ll understand what I mean
You love the sound of your OWN VOICES....its sheer Class pushing the boundaries.... every one of these songs stays in your head.... find myself singing them through the day just outta the blue....The MAJORITY WILL DO THE THE REAL REVIEWS...
what i like that harry is that deep hurt mature man but then also that completely silly , funny (dumb sometimes) dude . I am a big fan of the 60s , 70s and of the beatles that's why i loved the album. it's nice to have some music to relate to emotionally but then some other tracks like lights up and tpwk will make you go like what the fuuuck but you like it anyway. And yes harry does play guitar and is improving and i actually liked she ukw pink floyd style with that psychedelic bits and that guitar solo loved it! and that's a brilliant review gj
Canyon moon- is about Camille Rowe because she lives in canyon in la Watermelon sugar- is Camille Rowes favorite book Cherry- about Camille Falling- about Camille because she did an article we’re she goes to Beachwood cafe in the morning. To be so lonely- about Camille after the break up
after me taking 'fine line' so seriously and finally stopped crying about it, thanks for giving me a much needed laugh. when you repeated the words i realized they do sound silly but for all of the sillìness i am in awe of this masterpiece which tells a love affair from 'golden' to 'fine line' like albums just don't do anymore. i will be forever in awe of this. thanks for giving it a chance
Some people think he wanted the hiatus bc he saw how bad Zayn was doing, and I totally get where they’re coming from. I mean Zayn developed an eating disorder, his music kept getting rejected by the 1D management, and I’m sure it was obvious to Harry and the other boys that he was getting thin and angry. Smh it’s just so sad that if we would’ve gotten that 2014 hiatus we would still have their solo music AND finished 1D projects with Zayn still on them 😒😔
Happy to admit that I could have been wrong about this! I saw a few things flying around that said Harry was holding up a reunion, but after a bit of digging it looks like you're probably right about this one ;) Thanks! D
Yes, Mitch is one of his guitarists. And really helped write his first album. If you are interested in watching Harry's writing process there is an apple documeny about it th-cam.com/video/3QRpkYlk-SM/w-d-xo.html
THE MESSAGE IS GENUINE, you should have said , good for him for wanting him to put KINDNESS IN THE WORLD!!!! Maybe try it, may it will help your sarcasm!
Please never react to Harry’s music again....obviously You guys have never recorded a record to understand the HARD WORK THAT goes and HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS ONE!!! It’s a #1Album sold right now 476k - if he wins a Grammy I think you all should write him an apology- it’s ok to have your differences of opinions but to act in mature about it is so unprofessional! I would watch how Harry treats people fans strangers and even you two after criticizing his cheeky songs - and you would totally understand his album and the reason why he set up TPWK song for his concert- he wanted the song to to be a safe place where everyone could have a good time and dance , and jam out together!
Hey Kennedy, Not sure where we got our wires crossed, but both Jake and I really liked the album 🙂 We might disagree over one song, even though I think we both said we support the message behind it, but I think you'll find we're on your side here! Thanks and Happy Holidays, D
Happy Holidays to you both as well, and thanks for the quick reply back , thankful to hear wires were crossed and we’re on the same page, even though it ok to agree to disagree, just do it respectfully!
The Canyon Moon bit about "plays an old lover's hippie music//pretends not to know the words" is referencing his ex gf playing him a song from an ex (probably Alex from MGMT) that wrote a song about her but she casually played it and toned down her love of it for the sake of his ego.
You need to listen to the words completely through. Watch Harry’s Tiny Desk concert or his interview with Zane Lowe and he talks about the creation of the album. It is a bit of a shame that you insist that you like the album but you then go on to laugh at it and pick it apart. This is not a creditable review in my opinion. TPWK, in fact the whole album was written to be performed live. All songs take on a different meaning when sung live. Stevie Nicks loves this album and I prefer to believe her than your review.
We've been doing this as a podcast for a couple of years before switching to TH-cam, those eps are from a while back. podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/friendboys-music-therapy/id1433865411?mt=2 I think we have a soundcloud with our older ones too...
Don’t bother listening, they are ripping them to shreds because they are a boyband! „If it was sung by an artist with integrity this would be good“ that’s a quote about “walking in the wind“. Plus they seem to dislike Harry (calling him a twat and saying he got a big ego) I’m really disappointed. I have to really work to TPWK right now...
@@akutyam It's true we did dig the boys out a little, but I still think it's hard for boy bands to come across as genuine. I think that just comes with the format of multiple singers and songs that are often written by outsiders, especially when the group is young. That being said - 'Never Enough', 'Drag Me Down', 'What A Feeling' and 'History' are all songs that I still listen to to this day and I'm happy to say the album has grown on me! Thanks for taking the time to listen, D
Reacting and reviewing Music should be done respectful. It doesn't matter if you like it or not but your working off of someone else’s work. You can state your mind without being rude. Even if you think it’s bad, they(Artists) still put a lot of time, sweat and tears into the project. Maybe go and watch “react by ash” to see how it’s done. TPWK
Hey man! From what I can tell (definitely not an expert), technically it's an Ab Major to Bb Major, but if you're playing with a capo on the 6th fret then it's the same shape or position as D Major to E Major, so that might be where the confusion is coming from there. As for the modulation, since the song is in Bb minor, the expected or standard progression here would be Ab Major to Bb Minor, but he's going to Bb Major, then resolving to Bb minor for the chorus. To be honest, the more I listen to this song, the more I like this part! Cheers! D
Friendboys Music Therapy / ahhh, i gotcha! haha thank you for explaining :) i recently started playing guitar but i’m gonna look more into it for future references. thanks again! :)
I liked your reaction and the comments, but about the lyrics, the pop sounds these days are very easy to interpret and Harry doesn't do that. You didn't understand some lyrics because you have to think about them. About Falling's lyrics, that verse probably talks about the last conversation he had with his ex girlfriend. That the coffee is over and this is killing him because they have nothing left to talk to each other and no more coffee to drink so he will have to leave. It's about the pain of knowing that this is their last moment. This is how you write poetry. This is much deeper than generic letters and you have to think a little to understand. To interpret. Metaphors are even more complicated to understand than we are used to. And Lights up is about finding out. No more wanting to go back to a place where you couldn't be yourself.
He actually wrote falling in 20 min, after he got out of his shower
Um no actually their info about that was wrong. In the documentary we can hear him whistling a tune. At the time we didn't know. It's actually cherry. He was in only a towel wrapped around his waist and hair wet while holding a guitar. Cherry is the song that was made in under 12 minutes.
@@sarahlamar430 HI. The scene with the towel/guitar is from the Behind The Album doc from Harry's first album and filmed in Jamaica while recording that album so it really was not Cherry. In his interview with Zane Lowe about the album Fine Line, he describes getting out of the shower and hearing his friend Thomas Hull messing around on his piano. He then joined Thomas (also known as Kid Harpoon) and wrote a song in 20 minutes while wearing only that towel. Different album, different song, different towel altogether.
@@abbeyboyle8843 Different towel. Like :))
Sarah LaMar no lmao that’s different album, its the first album the scene you’re talking about. read his whole rolling stones interview, he said it himself.
I think "she" is about people fantasizing/day dreaming about the perfect person for them , but haven't met them yet. ..."like all of us do"....
Yh right
He wrote TPWK about/for his fans and touring, there’s a quote about it in the Rolling Stone article by Rob Sheffield that goes track by track...he said his first solo tour really affected him, that he was so happy that people really wanted to see him being himself, when he wasn’t sure coming out of 1D if people would be interested in just him, singing music he wrote ❤️
Aww She is my favourite song. I love the vibe of it. I've noticed you're not always fans of the elusive metaphors but I think this album is meant to be like the emotional journey, high to low to finding yourself again and the emotions are carried in the instrumentals as much as lyrics. Like Watermelon Sugar reminds my lit student brain a lot of metaphysical poetic style, aka cheeky and kinda super explicit but not directly apparent so it can seem like a vague love song. I mean it's fair to give a response if you don't think that way in what they mean to you but for me the lyrics are better the more I let them sink in and also become very explicit... (also when he performed it live recently he had swirling visuals made from his album art where he is not exactly clothed that give quite a Georgie O'Keefe impression of blossoming flowers and such so.) I read some of the album performance reviews that said some of the less favourite songs on the album like TPWK are amazing live and actually really work so it'll be interesting to see if that holds up.
About lights up, the lyrics being vague, I don't feel that because if you'll pay attention it goes like,
"What do you mean?
I'm sorry by the way
Never coming back down
Can't you see?
I could, but wouldn't stay
Wouldn't put it like that
What do you mean?
I'm sorry by the way
Never coming around
Be so sweet if things just stayed the same"
When he says he wouldn't put it like that he could mean "Oh no, that came out rude" and then in the next lines he rephrases that into a more subtle way of saying that he wants to move towards the light instead of staying in the dark with his (partner?/companion/ could be the reference to the media) he says it politely this time around, "(it would) be so sweet if things just stayed the same" but that's what, they aren't the same because he doesn't want to stay anymore. He wants out.
The song is about self reflection and finding yourself, breaking the chains and wanting out.
The lyrics on this album are definitely deeper than the majority of pop going around at the moment, and that's very much not a criticism. It's a taste thing! To be honest it's almost refreshing to have some less obvious lyrics that you have to adapt and puzzle out. Thanks for enriching the discussion!
- D
No they don't want to get back together..not sure where you all get your info lol but it's totally wrong..
I think the "and if our friends all pass away, it's ok" lyrics is basically saying that there is no excuse not to be kind, even if you're going through shit, even if all your friends pass away you can still treat people with kindness... it made sense to me at least.
Also, Harry plays guitar and does so in almost every song, he's not the main guitarist tho, Mitch (Rowland) as you were talking about is responsible for most of the epic guitar playing you were commenting on.
She is probably the best song on the album. I think having a guitar solo in a big pop artist album nowadays is something amazing.
At 22:45,
But what if it's not a link? Let's build a scenario here, and you'll have to bear with me and my wild imagination. But what if the two are sitting at their favourite coffee shop, Beachwood cafe, and they are here to talk and clear things for the better. And they sit, waiting for each other to say something that would give them something to hold on, a substance, something concrete. But they've both run out of things they can say to each other, they're both hanging by that fragile thread that can break any moment. And in this daunting situation where they just sit in silence in a coffee shop, their favourite coffees are not there either. They're out of coffee (or it could also mean that they have both finished their coffees and still haven't had the conversation they were supposed to have) and the minutes are passing agonising slow, because now they don't even have a coffee they can stir while they just simply stare at each other. I think the lyrics convey a lot here, even though they are vague.
It's called hidden messages. 😑 and you guys seem to not be able to decipher.
Y’all are gonna come at me for this but “she” gives me transitioning vibes. As in, if you listen to the song with this is in mind; she, me, and he all being Harry...You’ll understand what I mean
FefeNaAmerica Winchester i got that too!
Yeah, maybe not transition but masculinity and femininity
Ahre
You love the sound of your OWN VOICES....its sheer Class pushing the boundaries.... every one of these songs stays in your head.... find myself singing them through the day just outta the blue....The MAJORITY WILL DO THE THE REAL REVIEWS...
what i like that harry is that deep hurt mature man but then also that completely silly , funny (dumb sometimes) dude . I am a big fan of the 60s , 70s and of the beatles that's why i loved the album. it's nice to have some music to relate to emotionally but then some other tracks like lights up and tpwk will make you go like what the fuuuck but you like it anyway. And yes harry does play guitar and is improving and i actually liked she ukw pink floyd style with that psychedelic bits and that guitar solo loved it! and that's a brilliant review gj
Canyon moon- is about Camille Rowe because she lives in canyon in la
Watermelon sugar- is Camille Rowes favorite book
Cherry- about Camille
Falling- about Camille because she did an article we’re she goes to Beachwood cafe in the morning.
To be so lonely- about Camille after the break up
Are you sure?
Tumbrl Girl255 pretty sure
after me taking 'fine line' so seriously and finally stopped crying about it, thanks for giving me a much needed laugh. when you repeated the words i realized they do sound silly but for all of the sillìness i am in awe of this masterpiece which tells a love affair from 'golden' to 'fine line' like albums just don't do anymore. i will be forever in awe of this. thanks for giving it a chance
I think it means they put the coffee out. Not that they are out of coffee.
that's what I thought as well, and that it's a metaphor for them like having a conversation at the cafe about their relationship
i interpret it as they are actually out of coffee, just like they're out of "things to say" :)
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He said he did shrooms, but you never know. Harry says shit sometimes just to jack with people. I wouldn't take everything he says too seriously. 😂
Not many People know that
but harry suggested this hiatus in 2014, even before zayn left the band...
Some people think he wanted the hiatus bc he saw how bad Zayn was doing, and I totally get where they’re coming from. I mean Zayn developed an eating disorder, his music kept getting rejected by the 1D management, and I’m sure it was obvious to Harry and the other boys that he was getting thin and angry. Smh it’s just so sad that if we would’ve gotten that 2014 hiatus we would still have their solo music AND finished 1D projects with Zayn still on them 😒😔
I think that She is about the woman that Harry has inside✨💔
She is actually my favorite 😂
1:00 not true, none of them want to get back together, at least not for now, they’ve got their own projects they want to finish
Happy to admit that I could have been wrong about this! I saw a few things flying around that said Harry was holding up a reunion, but after a bit of digging it looks like you're probably right about this one ;)
Thanks!
D
Friendboys Music Therapy yeah, I’ve seen a lot people get that impression haha, you’re welcome 💗
Yes, Mitch is one of his guitarists. And really helped write his first album. If you are interested in watching Harry's writing process there is an apple documeny about it th-cam.com/video/3QRpkYlk-SM/w-d-xo.html
Two very prude dudes! tpwk and send us a heart darlings. x
THE MESSAGE IS GENUINE, you should have said , good for him for wanting him to put KINDNESS IN THE WORLD!!!! Maybe try it, may it will help your sarcasm!
Please never react to Harry’s music again....obviously You guys have never recorded a record to understand the HARD WORK THAT goes and HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS ONE!!!
It’s a #1Album sold right now 476k - if he wins a Grammy I think you all should write him an apology- it’s ok to have your differences of opinions but to act in mature about it is so unprofessional! I would watch how Harry treats people fans strangers and even you two after criticizing his cheeky songs - and you would totally understand his album and the reason why he set up TPWK song for his concert- he wanted the song to to be a safe place where everyone could have a good time and dance , and jam out together!
Hey Kennedy,
Not sure where we got our wires crossed, but both Jake and I really liked the album 🙂
We might disagree over one song, even though I think we both said we support the message behind it, but I think you'll find we're on your side here!
Thanks and Happy Holidays,
D
Happy Holidays to you both as well, and thanks for the quick reply back , thankful to hear wires were crossed and we’re on the same page, even though it ok to agree to disagree, just do it respectfully!
The Canyon Moon bit about "plays an old lover's hippie music//pretends not to know the words" is referencing his ex gf playing him a song from an ex (probably Alex from MGMT) that wrote a song about her but she casually played it and toned down her love of it for the sake of his ego.
although "hippie music" makes me think it's probably Devendra Banhart
@@ohdarling95 Maybe!
Mitch Rowland is his guitarist....first album and this one too.
Watermelon sugar is about sex. Period.
Oh and this album reminds me of some neil diamond. Which i love.
I still cry by the word splitting
Although there is the book that's actually called watermelon sugar
2:12 THAT look
omg
He wrote falling in 20 min
reaaact to his self-titled album pleaaaase💖
You need to listen to the words completely through. Watch Harry’s Tiny Desk concert or his interview with Zane Lowe and he talks about the creation of the album. It is a bit of a shame that you insist that you like the album but you then go on to laugh at it and pick it apart. This is not a creditable review in my opinion. TPWK, in fact the whole album was written to be performed live. All songs take on a different meaning when sung live. Stevie Nicks loves this album and I prefer to believe her than your review.
You said you reviewed Harry's first album and a 1D album, I don't see those reviews.
We've been doing this as a podcast for a couple of years before switching to TH-cam, those eps are from a while back.
podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/friendboys-music-therapy/id1433865411?mt=2
I think we have a soundcloud with our older ones too...
Don’t bother listening, they are ripping them to shreds because they are a boyband! „If it was sung by an artist with integrity this would be good“ that’s a quote about “walking in the wind“. Plus they seem to dislike Harry (calling him a twat and saying he got a big ego) I’m really disappointed. I have to really work to TPWK right now...
@@akutyam I listened to both.
@@akutyam It's true we did dig the boys out a little, but I still think it's hard for boy bands to come across as genuine. I think that just comes with the format of multiple singers and songs that are often written by outsiders, especially when the group is young.
That being said - 'Never Enough', 'Drag Me Down', 'What A Feeling' and 'History' are all songs that I still listen to to this day and I'm happy to say the album has grown on me!
Thanks for taking the time to listen,
D
Reacting and reviewing Music should be done respectful. It doesn't matter if you like it or not but your working off of someone else’s work. You can state your mind without being rude. Even if you think it’s bad, they(Artists) still put a lot of time, sweat and tears into the project. Maybe go and watch “react by ash” to see how it’s done. TPWK
ok now I can appreciate the video in peace
LOVE UR review + can u please do a reaction to ZAYN’s album ICARUS FALLS or MIND OF MINE 🔥🔥🤟🏽
Please react to Zayn Malik!!!
Ángel mi rey mi leyenda viviente
Please review Zayn's albums
Anything by DERMOT KENNEDY!!
thought that part in lights up went from “d major” to “e major” ... at least that’s how i play it.
Hey man!
From what I can tell (definitely not an expert), technically it's an Ab Major to Bb Major, but if you're playing with a capo on the 6th fret then it's the same shape or position as D Major to E Major, so that might be where the confusion is coming from there.
As for the modulation, since the song is in Bb minor, the expected or standard progression here would be Ab Major to Bb Minor, but he's going to Bb Major, then resolving to Bb minor for the chorus.
To be honest, the more I listen to this song, the more I like this part!
Cheers!
D
Friendboys Music Therapy / ahhh, i gotcha! haha thank you for explaining :) i recently started playing guitar but i’m gonna look more into it for future references. thanks again! :)
She is about Harry's gender identity!! 🗣️
@@lololee24 it's not not.
The only intellectual in the comments 👏
Whiistling Winds I don’t think it’s about his sexuality specifically as much as it is about gender expression in general
@@lololee24 Read the iTunes description of the album and listen to it again.
soooo...oral sex "is disgusting"? yikes. 17:46