Discovering Dispensationalism | Dr. Cory Marsh & Dr. James Fazio

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  • @denniscrumbley8274
    @denniscrumbley8274 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent topic and conversation. This is a very pertinent topic today. Thank you to all four of you!

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they're really milking this subject and i still have no idea what it is, do you think anyone else really cares?

    • @denniscrumbley8274
      @denniscrumbley8274 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HarryNicNicholas Yes, many people really care, especially we theologians. It doesn't matter to you because by your own admission, you don't know what it is. Also, because many people don't understand it they call Dispensational theology "heresy". While I don't hold to Covenant Theology, I don't call it heresy. It is a different theological system.

    • @denniscrumbley8274
      @denniscrumbley8274 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@johnbitar5566I don't speak or read in tongues. Can you please write in English?

  • @Landis_Grant
    @Landis_Grant หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Throughout the Internet, there’s a growing avalanche of videos dissing dispensationalism and the “secret” rapture. This shows the growing apostasy that the Apostle Paul predicted for these last days.

    • @dougbell9543
      @dougbell9543 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Like floodwaters spewed out by the Serpent, dispensationalism has flooded the visible church of our Lord Jesus Christ. ✔️

    • @Steve-og4ii
      @Steve-og4ii 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes,I have noticed anti- Dispensationaism being promoted, especially on social media.

  • @Seiskid
    @Seiskid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was super helpful. Thankyou.

  • @tlumaczy1507
    @tlumaczy1507 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I have a title of this book? And where can I buy it?

  • @briangilley5960
    @briangilley5960 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good content fellas 🎉

  • @ElizabethRodriguez-cy8gn
    @ElizabethRodriguez-cy8gn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @pcjenkin
    @pcjenkin 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Old Covenant The New Covenant
    1. Blood of Animals 1. Blood of Christ
    2. Written on Stone 2. Written on Hearts
    3. Shadow 3. Substance
    4. Glorious 4. More Glorious
    5. Had an End 5. Has no End
    6. Law of Moses 6. Law of Messiah
    7. Law of Works 7. Law of Faith
    8. Law of Sin and Death 8. Law of Spirit of Life
    9. Many Sacrifices 9. One Sacrifice
    10. Powerless to Save 10. Power to Save
    11. Annual Atonement 11. Eternal Atonement
    12. Earthly Tabernacle 12. Heavenly Tabernacle
    13. Ministry of Death 13. Ministry of Life
    14. Outer Form - Flesh 14. Inner Reality - Spirit
    15. Ministry of 15. Ministry of
    Condemnation Reconciliation

  • @BibleStudywithVernon
    @BibleStudywithVernon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My respectful question to my dispensational brothers is this: What blessings did Christ receive and are believers (Jew/Gentiles) inheritor’s of those blessings?

    • @hajoel5505
      @hajoel5505 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jesus came for Israel first, accordingly Gentile believers in the church partake in the spiritual blessings. But Jewish believers are the heirs to the physical blessings as a consequence to their part of the Abrahamic covenant in addition to enjoying spiritual blessings. Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Michael Vlach are good references to this.
      As to “there is neither Jew nor Gentiles” the verse is in the context of their justifications but not about which type of blessings, because the verse went on to say there is neither male nor female, free or slaves. So it is not a right thing to read Jews and Gentiles alike have the same blessings, as supercessionists claim.

    • @BibleStudywithVernon
      @BibleStudywithVernon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hajoel5505 What about Galatians 6:16, and are we not inheritors with Christ?

    • @hajoel5505
      @hajoel5505 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gal 6:16 are Israeli believers in the church (Jewish believers), Gentile believers are not being referred to in the context.

    • @BibleStudywithVernon
      @BibleStudywithVernon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hajoel5505 really? I thought Galatians were gentiles.

    • @hajoel5505
      @hajoel5505 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arnold Fruchtenbaum dealt with your question here, in particular pages 14-15:
      faithconnector.s3.amazonaws.com/chafer/files/v5n4_2.pdf
      😊

  • @simonbagel
    @simonbagel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I guess we have to also determine whether or not the Israelites were wiped out after 70 ad and the subsequent diaspora.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      any idea whose side god is on in the middle east? is he doing his usual "i'll wait 400 years then kill everyone" thing?

    • @stephennelson1687
      @stephennelson1687 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are in war today ! HELLO??

    • @simonbagel
      @simonbagel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@stephennelson1687 Who do you mean by "they"?

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stephennelson1687 yeah but whose side is god on? he appears to like seeing both sides dead, so, whose side do you think he is on? really hard for anyone religious to give a straight answer to any question "do you like warm weather?" "well, it depends on the context"

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simonbagel "them" he means "those"

  • @andrewmorgensen326
    @andrewmorgensen326 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why do you (as a Christian) have to hold to a "system" such as dispensationalism or Covenant theology. Why does a person have use a ridged hermeneutical rule like literalism or allegoricalism?
    Why not read the Bible and understand it's passages as each passages is intended? As the context and subject matter informs?
    Why not just be a Christian? Instead of a dispensationalists?

  • @iamthebaird
    @iamthebaird 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I hoped a defense of an idea "rooted in sola scriptural" would include some scripture, but I didn't catch any, except the sign-off which didn't apply. Just a lot of talking in circles and appeals to authority. I'm shepherding a brother who's been indoctrinated in dispensationalism and wanted a intellectually sound defense of it, but this wasn't it.

    • @CharlesFockaert
      @CharlesFockaert 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's what PhD's do, peer review each other and blow smoke up each other's behind. Piled Higher & Deeper.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CharlesFockaert lol, religion is silly isn't it. arguing over what your imaginary friend REALLY meant.

    • @CharlesFockaert
      @CharlesFockaert 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HarryNicNicholas don't engage in religion.
      we each hold a hand
      and at the end of the "game" we lay down
      our hand - we go "all in."
      In my "imaginary friend,"
      I'm confident I have a Ace high flush.
      You?

  • @dealexander4751
    @dealexander4751 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dispensational bible study is not modern its been in your bible 2000 years . The failure to rightly divide as God commanded in 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV is the sole reason for thousands of denominations and biblical ignorance running rampant in Christianity today

  • @SpotterVideo
    @SpotterVideo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? Jesus predicted the destruction in Matthew 24:1-2, and Luke 19:41-44.
    Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
    Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
    We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
    =============
    Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
    (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
    The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
    1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8, 3:16.)
    2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
    3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
    4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
    5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
    6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
    7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
    8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
    9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
    10. Watch the TH-cam video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
    Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
    Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:

    “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
    Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
    Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
    Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
    John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
    "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
    John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
    What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
    (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.)
    Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
    Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
    Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24?
    Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period?
    Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.

    • @maskofsorrow
      @maskofsorrow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Spot on. Great assessment.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      any idea who wrote john, cos all this stuff is highly suspect.

  • @raysalmon6566
    @raysalmon6566 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    old school stuff
    God does not change

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there is no god, no one seems to be able to get god to do anything, i think give the number of times i've called him and incompetent bastard he wouldn't done something about me by now if he weren't the imaginary nit that he is.

  • @Lysimachus78
    @Lysimachus78 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I pray these men will discover Historicism. The more I study, the more I realize just how evil dispensationalism is.

    • @andymontoya8649
      @andymontoya8649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Can you please further develop your last statement?

    • @stephennelson1687
      @stephennelson1687 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I see how evil anti semitism is in replacement theology! God is fighting for Israel in Ezekiel 39-39!

    • @CharlesFockaert
      @CharlesFockaert 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stephennelson1687 the jew is not Israel. the jews themselves tell you they are Esau, not Jacob/Israel.
      antisemitism is just another Titus 1:14 jew canard.

    • @orderofeden8599
      @orderofeden8599 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I honestly have never come across a historicist in real life or online. Very interesting

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stephennelson1687 ezekiel 23:14 is my fav, i love bible porn.

  • @geraldpolmateer3255
    @geraldpolmateer3255 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dispensationalism is a systematic theology which has been revised at least twice.

  • @ishiftfocus1769
    @ishiftfocus1769 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The gospel taught by Peter and the Lord in his earthly ministry was without the cross. Nobody could be saved in Matthew-John by the gospel of the cross, which is the only gospel that brings salvation to all men today.
    Today, preaching the gospel without the cross is vain (1 Cor 1:17-18). There are other gospels in the Bible given to Israel that are without the cross. They would not be vain according to God’s promises to Israel, but they need to be rightly divided from the gospel that saves into the church.
    God is not bringing in his kingdom to Israel today, but he is ministering the good news of Christ crucified and resurrected for the sins of all men. A gospel without the cross is no gospel to lost sinners. The only gospel that saves today requires the cross of Christ.

  • @Aninetehradactul
    @Aninetehradactul 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why does this matter

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it doesn't, god isn't real.

    • @Aninetehradactul
      @Aninetehradactul 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HarryNicNicholas because you don’t want Him to be?

  • @HarryNicNicholas
    @HarryNicNicholas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol, never heard of this before, more dross.
    we atheists love to see you argue over what god really said, every time you do an angel turns queer.

  • @ryanmozert
    @ryanmozert 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Y'all mention the word dispensationalism 300 times and not a single one of you gave a basic answer of what it is

  • @aletheia8054
    @aletheia8054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no word dispensation in the Greek Bible

    • @theocratickingdom30
      @theocratickingdom30 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nor Trinity or aseity. Yet these truths are clearly taught.

    • @aletheia8054
      @aletheia8054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theocratickingdom30 it’s the Greek word oikonomia. It’s where we get the word economy. It means house law. It has nothing to do with times or dispensations of time.

    • @theocratickingdom30
      @theocratickingdom30 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aletheia8054You missed my point.

    • @theocratickingdom30
      @theocratickingdom30 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aletheia8054And the idea of a dispensation isn’t original to dispensationalism. Jonathan Edwards believed in 7 dispensations and he is reformed.

    • @aletheia8054
      @aletheia8054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theocratickingdom30 no I didn’t miss your point

  • @blackpatriot3
    @blackpatriot3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dispensational teaching is unbiblical. No there are not 2 people of God. The Bible teaches believers are the people of God. Not unbelievers. Either you are in Adam or In Christ.

    • @stephennelson1687
      @stephennelson1687 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right- unbelieving Jews are in Adam as are unbelieving Gentiles.
      Believing Jews & Gentiles are in Christ.
      Unbelieving Jews who are saved post rapture will be saved in the end
      Post rapture gentiles will be tribulation saints. The fact is even God couldn’t win in wrestling against Jacob. His promise to Abraham could NOT be broken! Christ WILL rule on David’s throne!

    • @ryanmozert
      @ryanmozert 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He let Jacob win don't fool yourself boy ​@@stephennelson1687

  • @user-xq2bm3nq8y
    @user-xq2bm3nq8y 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I believe in the covenant, which is biblical. Dispensationalism is not in the Bible. Perhaps the concept is, BUT NOT THE WORD ITSELF. Covenant, in WORD & CONCEPT is Biblical.

  • @ElizabethRodriguez-cy8gn
    @ElizabethRodriguez-cy8gn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน