Restoring The 1953 Pontiac Chieftain, Is It Road Worthy, Driving It Across The Country?
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- In todays video I start the restoration process on the 1953 Pontiac chieftain, we take it out on a long drive, get it cleaned up, and address the rough running issues.
Should we drive this car across the country?
Let me know what you think in the comments down below.
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Definitely drive that car cross Country. I follow the car on Randy’s channel and I’m on your channel as well. At least that car is not spending its golden years in a junkyard. Drive the hell out of it man keep up the good work looking forward to the next video.
Detail car & get rechrome bumps put carpet , take to swapmeet sale it down south
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This channel is underrated, TK's deserves more subs really. Great content for car lovers. Greetings from Europe.
Driving across the US sounds like fun but remember that is a 1953 car. the top speed on the freeway back in 1953 was about 55 MPH so a days driving (10hrs) was 550miles not 650-700 miles like in todays modern cars. That cars diff/tranny won't take 10-12 hrs worth of 70mph it will blow up or the engine will. Have a good LO O O O NG drive across the US.
My father buried the speedometer on his '53 Chieftain en route from Carlsbad Caverns to Santa Fe, NM. He said he just floored it and that straight-8 w/Hydramatic responded. He said he didn't keep it at 100 for very long. Still, no harm done to the engine.
Try some carborator cleaner in the fuel it had been sitting the jets in the carb might be gummed up. And also on the cold start you might have a manual choke should be a knob on the dash for that. And remember there is no computer to make any adjustments as it runs
TK, you and Randy never fail to entertain the masses on TH-cam
Use Mother’s mag/ aluminum polish with DA on bumpers, you will need to do 2-3 passes, but it’s worth the results
This is news anyone can use! Keep it up Uncle TK! You just keep ‘em coming like a train without brakes! GETTTTITTT
I don’t think the manual transmissions in those days had synchromesh like modern manual transmissions.
Also, the carburetor probably needs a rebuild. Floats and/or needle are stuck. Old gas sitting in that tank for who knows how long.
She’s a beauty with a lot of potential. The Purple Heart 💜 is fitting, a tribute to our Veterans.
First gear was not synchronized; there was a first-reverse sliding gear. Second and third were synchronized.
You can’t give it gas when it’s cold 🥶
Is she cold blooded
@@kennethfalk5766 it’s been cold here and she has no choke at all. Really have to let it just idle and warm up. You tap the gas it’ll die.
The three on the tree 1 is down and towards your knee, 2 is up towards the windsheild and the 3 is straight down. Reverse is up and towards the steering wheel. Just like a letter H. Nice car man I hope to see the chrome back on her. The bucking sounds like the power valve in the carb.
Great video. Keep this series coming!!
Will do! Love what you guys are doing as well
The Pontiac looks really nice! Though a clear over the old patina would have been nice too...
Hello TK. The 1953 Pontiac Chieftain is looking good. Good luck on driving her across country.
Drive it across the country TK, it will make amazing content and I’m sure will be an adventure!
You were using 2nd as 1st and 3rd for 2nd. 1st is back towards you and down. From 1st, up, over (towards dash- it should automatically move that way in Neutral) and up for 2nd, then straight down from 2nd to 3rd. It takes some getting used to but you'll get it. I think it was just bucking from being in too high of a gear, TK.
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1st gear is just under Reverse- towards you and down. It is a similar pattern to a 3-speed on the floor if it was moved up to the dash and then around to the steering column.
It's pretty amazing that this car got going as good as it did in 2nd gear though.
Lol it hates going into 1st. It grinds like a MF
@@TKsGarage trans is not synchromesh geared like a newer car so no down shifting so going into 1st gear car has to be at a complete stop
@@tomd3193 Rev the engine up and double clutch it and pull into 1st gear. I grew up with these old cars and loved to tinker with them. Back then we used to rat race around town. I know all the tricks for running those oldies and keeping them on the road.
@@raybonecrusher4516 TK, Double-clutching could work for sure. In 1993 I bought a decommissioned 1988 X-FHP Mustang with a 5-speed and the 2nd gear synchro was gone and double-clutching kept it from grinding on the upshift (1st ->2nd: I had a friend that had one before me and another after me, all of them had bad 2nd gear synchros so you know how the troopers were driving them, lol. I learned it from him), though I have never tried it on a downshift. To double-clutch- push in the clutch pedal, move the shifter to neutral, release the clutch, push the clutch pedal back in then go into your next gear. Hopefully that'll help reduce the grinding for you.
@@tomd3193 That's something I didn't know. If that car was mine, I would have done a little research before driving it.
TK, Teens in the 50s wanted a 4 on the floor for their hot rods. Parents & car makers were confused because it took a lot of engineering to get the shifter on the tree.
Should have a manual choke , if so , shut it half way it will help on startup
I remember whatching the video of Randy finding this car. Its come a long way! Keep up the gread video's!
Lovin the Chieftain TK!! Definitely try to find and install the remaining chrome trim. One of the COOLEST things about the old 50's cars is the chrome,if you really want to turn heads, PLEASE get the bumpers rechromed. Also one of the best cooler combos, as a fellow Mopar lover, is a Bright White interior!! You can resto-mod the interior with white leather etc & you'll live it even more!!
Forward and down for first and up for second and down for third.
0000 steel wool works great on glass etc.. the razor did a nice job though . She is coming around.
you need to connect the choke cable up to the carb them old cars don't like start with out some choke
Always interesting in watching classical car's
Hey TK, Check out the fuel filter! That is what it seems like could be clogged and not making it run smoothly.
There isn’t one lol
YOU HAVE TO CLEAN YOUR PURPLE HEART YOU EARNED IT AFTER THE GREEN MONSTER
My father's '53 was a 2-door, two-tone green sedan, straight-8 Hydramatic without a radio. He said for the extra $100.00 for the radio, he could whistle and be happy. He kept it until we left South Bend, then he sold it to a coworker. I remember that car well. It always started no matter how cold it got. It turned over much more slowly than this one, though. My father had to jury-rig a starter button after the battery contacts on the ignition switch burned out He bought a spring-loaded button and hooked the battery cables to it. That's how I remember him starting it; I was probably three when the contacts burned out.
Shines like glass . Wow she is awesome.
I think it's would look outstanding with the chrome back on it
Well ol 53 Pontiac shine up good Tk glad u made going up hills a little better I know it's purple but in some areas look blue guess cause u got the car glass shine.
I've never seen a three on the tree with the sifting pattern you are using. In my experience, low gear is always... starting from neutral, then pull toward the steering wheel, and then down toward your right knee. I think you are starting in second gear.
See th-cam.com/video/_uhE7rXupdE/w-d-xo.html
first gear is next to you 2nd gear, is always up and 3rd gear is always down by the knee
1st gear would be toward u and down. Great video!
Take route 66 on a quest to find the rest of the outside brite trim. What a hoot!
TK, take it to Wichita, that way you can see the Car Wizard, he can probably diagnose that bucking problem for you. 💜💜💜
Take it to Wichita I'm in Coffeyville Kansas If you come through this way you could always stop off And visit
Try to hit the bumpers with some 000 steel wool, it may take care of some of the scale and then hit it with a polish. I don't think you can make it perfect however I bet it'll help it to look a lot better.
Fix the choke? Minor issue . Those old low compression engines needed choke especially in cold weather starts.
Purple Poncho , I remember when Pontiacs were called Ponchos! Yeah Im old just turned 70.
If you can’t find the chrome trim that you need for the car. It can be painted on to look like the trim. I have seen it done the right painter pin stripper can make it look absolutely beautiful and you wouldn’t know until you are right upon it. But the holes would have to be filled first. And painted again. 👍😎
This old girl just wants someone to give her some love
Definitely needs some white wall tyres on tho sir
I don't care how long the videos are love your content
I GOT A GOOD ONE,, CHIEF CRAZY PLUM,,,ROFLMAO, LUV THAT CAR TK,,,i do,,,
Couple of points to consider. Shift pattern is same as Chevy for that era. Get an old owner's manual if you aren't sure. I remember one of the cars where I had to pull it into 3rd then into low before starting off. Just an old worn gear box, probably last several more years. Back in the 50s we had some 65 speed limits around the country. The straight 8 Pontiacs would cruise at 65 all day without over heating. That "bucking" under moderate load seems more like a misfire than anything. Could be the carb is going lean, or could be ignition. Coasting along on a level road seems better but when you start uphill and add throttle it seems to buck on you. If you have a local shop or station with an analyzer that can check out your ignition it wouldn't hurt. One weak connection on those plug wires could also be the problem. Today we are spoiled by the ODBII computer codes. On those cars you need an old time analyzer.
The taking off/stalling issue is not the car. Learn how to drive a three speed on the column. Taking off in second is not going to work. In neutral, pull the shift lever toward you, then pull it down. That is first. Then, when moving about 14 - 20 MPH, move the lever back to neutral, push it forward and up - that's second. Hold in second until about 30 - 40 MPH. Then, pull the lever straight down two clicks. You are now in third gear. Do not engage third gear below 30 MPH or so. Stay in second [forward in neutral and up]. You are lugging the engine. That's why it is "bucking." It is a 1953 car. It is not fuel injected. It will require finesse that a modern car does not. Do not hurt it trying to manhandle it like a newer car. Let a mechanic look at the tuning issues. Don't start replacing stuff at random. Be nice to it. It will be nice to you.
I've never heard anyone bitch as much abut normal old car stuff. I'd hate to listen to you around a rough car. This one is pretty nice, from the video.
It is not the car's fault or a fault with the car. Learn a bit about the function of a carbureted, point sparked, inline 8 cylinder engine, followed by likely worn synchronizers in a cast iron three speed stick shift. By the way, that car originally did not have an electric fuel pump. It had an engine driven mechanical pump. Someone has added the electric pump.
Shine armor works great on my truck with new paint job
Maybe try double clutching when shifting to make things smoother? If it’s not synchronized gears then that’s what they did in the old days to get it to move smoothly. Thanks!
Go TK Go!
accelerator pump.. could also be clogged needle/seats. Check floats too while you've got her torn down. It's a pretty simple carb.
My brother and his son both served with the 82nd airborne
Swap the purple heart with the VW in the back yard and tinker with that every now and then, would make for some good content bringing it around.
Try a brillo pad on the chrome
The more you run it the better it will drive!
G'day, TK, with old cars, it is best to pump the gas a few times to prime the carbie bowl before turning the key and then leave the gas pedal alone until she warms up. Without a choke, she is running too lean on startup. Priming the bowl will help enrich the air-fuel mixture. Check to see if a manual choke cable can be fitted to the carbie. You are truly a legend to attempt to drive this car any distance. Best of luck and good fortune. Drama means good views.
I love the tribute name idea!👍👍🍺🤙
YOU might need bigger fuel pump configuartion, start up will get easier reattaching manual choke for start up.. 10-1 says carb need refitted, floats in bowls might be worn out ??? without putting hands on kinds hard to diagnose, but i would start there first,,, how about PURPLE GLORY or PURPLE RAIN????
Route 66 hands down. Stop and showcase some crazy spots. TH-cam gold.
Hey,
You got yourself a fine car dude!
It reminded me of the cars in Cuba,Maybe (the cuban) would be a cool name for it!?!
Good luck
Does it have a manual choke of some sort,or needs adjustment
wow looks like you got a big project
You said 7000 likes for the halfway cross country…. It won’t let me hit it 6999 more times. 👍
The distributor is vacuum advance. It might have a vacuum leak
i'm laughing at the guy who was watching your camera on the ground while you were washing the car. he look like he wanted to snatch it and run lol
I gotta go back and watch this lol
To shift into 1st gear you have to pull the shifter towards you and push it down. You were starting off in 2nd gear. Also, I watched the video that Randy put up and he changed out the points for an electronic ignition so there are no points in your car anymore
Hey TK. Take some aluminum foil and water to the chrome. Be careful around the paint. Rub the chrome with wet aluminum foil and it will remove the rust. Take care
Good video TK Good Detailing job the car is looking good I Remember when Randy bought the car
Purple heart would be awesome
Yes drive her across the country
To me it seems that this bucking happens every time you put a load on it (like going up the hill). That sounds like a it might be spark related and not a gas issue. You might test the coil and see how those plugs and wires are. The plugs and wires are more exposed then in a newer car so who knows if Oklahoma's famous dust bowl like storms have not gotten to the things
As for 3 on the tree, back in the 1930's this was seen as luxury since the floor shifter looked like it was from a truck and these 3 on the tree shifters were seen as modern. In 1987 when the last vehicle(for the USA Market) made with it this (1987 Chevy C10 pickup truck), it was seen as a dated relic. Last USA Market car was the 1979 RWD GM X-Body twins (like the Nova). Last Ford with the 3 on the tree was 1986 F150 and Last Mopar was the 1985 Dodge D truck.
Plugs and wires are new. But the points may be bad
Thank you TK Kind Sir That sounds like wonderful idea my Granddad was master sergeant in the US Army he had purple heart he was sadly killed a year before I was born
Every three on the tree that I drove, and that eas several, first was pull back and down, second from first us up to neutral forward then up, third was straight down from second. I think from what I am seeing that you're transmission linkage is hooked up wrong but it's kind of hard to tell from the video.
I like the name you have for it! To downshift, you have to double clutch? Get ahold of Vice Grip Garage? He has dealt with tons of old cars! He might have an idea what it is.
Vegas baby!
If he goes to Vegas, he has to hit up The Strip for sure and The Valley of Fire State Park. There is a marina for Lake Mead just on the other side of it, too and the drive to the park is awesome- just check out the Christy Brinkley scene from Vegas Vacation to see it. ; )
Try 0000s Brillo or SOS soap pads on the chrome
Might be a problem with the choke? Is it a manual choke? If so it needs to be pulled out a little when cold.
If its not hooked up the choke can bounce back a forth while driving.
Great content!
Hey use steel wool on the bumpers ill take the rust off and bring back the shine.
Sounds like the accelerator pump. A device in the carburetor that squirts raw gasoline into the throttle body when quickly accelerating to improve responsiveness.
Great day
My Pontiac nickname was big Bertha
I can't tell for sure but it looks like the dome light is on while you were cleaning the over spray off the windshield.
Put the right fuel pump on it instead of that electric one fix a choke on the carb it will run
Before you paint the bumpers and brightwork try rubbing them down with 0000 steel wool and water .
0000 steel wool works really good on windshields
ok sir i am waiting lets go yahoooo, always love all your videos
Classic cars🤏😎
Saw some chrome parts on eBay that weren't overly wildly priced. Maybe join a Pontiac club. The members often have parts that are left over from a restoration or just put aside when they saw them and they will help a fellow owner out. You can point them to the video to prove you aren't just reselling parts.
Short trip would be fun. The points will arc if they are touching or close to touching when the key is left on. Maybe a points replacement with electronic ignition? Great video again. Thank you.
Yeah I saw the same thing there are some vintage and reproduction pieces on eBay looks like they would have to be bought piece by piece but might be able to find all the pieces he would need or maybe he can find one on Copart or IAA for parts maybe
LS swap it get the carpet you’re going to have to source the trim pieces one bye one. But when you’re done you can enjoy it.
First is straight down from reverse....you are taking off in second
Great job bro
Nail polish remover would help take the paint off the windshield Dollar tree would have it
Hi dear do not click the accelerator after starting u have to click before starting
Hit the chrome with 0000 steel wool and then hit it with mother's mag polish
Use steel wool on the crome
Joker mobile . Green n purple
1st gear is towards you and DOWN, you're starting in 2nd.....lol......#0000 steel wool will remove that over spray on the glass, even a clay bar should do it. Speaking of glass, the flat glass is easy to have made and replaced. Front and rear, not so much....The missing trim, most of it is stainless and similar on Chevy and Olds of the period, not impossible to find. The bumpers/chrome...you can get the color out of the pits but the pits will remain unfortunately.... due to the morons leaving the key on the points may be fried...replace with new ones, *OR get a Pertronix ignition system and so away with any future ignition issue. I have hints for the missing trim as well. The carb can be adjusted AND / or rebuilt easily.
Lol yeah someone told me last night and I found first. But that said it doesn’t like to go into first at all it grinds a lot
Indeed it will, no synchros...so, put it in 2nd first to pause the input shaft, then down into 1st gear, no grinding....do it when stopped of course
@@midnightgambler3718 it works better thanks. Still a bitch to get into 1st
Great video tk love that old girl
Purple and green you say. What about "Barney".
Have you checked the contents of the fuel tank? bought a 1965 Apache pickup had similar issue, tank was full of crud.
Check the points
It reminds me of my Pontiac that I own in the 70s
Very very nice car im glad you got i would watch you drive it acrossed country!!! I hope toy can have the crome on it or get it recromed
Take it Wichita. Dallas is too much traffic.
If you take it to Wichita, maybe Hoovie, JR or The Wizard can help you get everything sorted.