I wish he'd go for the yellow USA biplane color's as in his intro, or if he'd want more blue the same thing but blue fueselage with yellow wings sill with circle and star, like those old Cox Baby Bee control line airplanes... Think that new plane looks awesome yellow, and good way to keep it USA (navy or army?!) me thinks 🤔 @trentonpalmer
Gotta say with mike patey taking time off from making airplane build videos its refreshing to get a new build on TH-cam!! Love the channel and look forward to seeing this new ride fly!!
I had the same vibe from CubCrafters too. If you’re not rich. They don’t even want to entertain you. Vans aircraft will give you a free airplane ride if you just show up. I think you picked a good choice.
Yeah, there’s pretty much no such thing as completely built in the USA. 25 year-old Harley Davidson, are half metric fasteners. 😅😅😅 Rotax is a German company I believe which is owned by Bombardier which is a Canadian company. So…
@@lucianoaugustob hopefully that changes soon. Notice them using diversions to send more money to Ukraine. Like one last good funnel of cleaned money funneled back to them?
The intro is under appreciated!! I mean...the thought put into the journey from home, airport, rental, travel, and arrival was a joy to watch. All while you explain why you're on this journey...Chef's kiss
Trent, I have been following your blog for 4 to 5 years and have thoroughly enjoyed it. I am 79 and had an uncle who was a professional pilot and introduce me to Aviation when I was 5 years old. He took me and my mother for my first plane ride in a Stinson when I was about 5 years old. That hooked me on flying but I finally rode with him in a piper P3 Cub when I was about 13 years old. We flew around our hometown of Auburn Indiana and I took pictures of the town and of our home in the country. I finally earned my private license when I was in my second year of being in the Army at Fort . That was when I was about 24 years old. I flew for a couple of years but had to give up flying when I got married and had a family. I have never given up my love for Aviation and still hold a dream of perhaps renewing my license. I look forward to your completing your build and enjoying your videos of your new cub.
This is so cool, Trent! It's like the love child of a Piper Cub and a Kitfox...but this baby is going to be greater than the sum of its parts. I hope to see a unicorn on it somewhere.
I’m currently building a kitfox in Houston. I went back and forth between KF and Legend. I ended up going with the Kitfox because of side by side seating and price but man, I really love the legend.
Trent, your videos never disappoint they are so well informed and full of useful information and insights. I’d like to thank Legend aircraft for allowing you to film what they are doing and progress of your build, it’s so awesome to see the progress of an airplane being built from the ground up and all the actual engineering that goes into it. Thanks again for sharing, I believe it’s going to be a grand experience for not only you but for those of us that have been following your adventures from the start. May you have blue skies and tail winds. See ya
That's going to be a great plane! Keep it light with longer wings - That's what I did with my 172, ditched everything that added weight and added 3 feet of extra wing length. Can't wait to see it in the air!
The Bearhawk Patrol is a 2-place tandem that probably would have meet all your back country requirements with a 140 mph cruise, but you would've had to assemble/build a lot more of it yourself, particularly if you wanted to try and use the 916. You'll be happy with what you've chosen. FWIW, my wife prefers tandem.
I expected a Bearhawk as well. Just seems like it ticks all the boxes. The Patrol is only 850 useful. But the Companion would be there and keep side by side seating which is nicer with the spouse and 250 lbs baggage. Would not have to convert to tandem.
Yo Trent! I’m a new follower and holy pierogi have I found a gold mine of a channel. I’m a new pilot in training and your vids are max inspiring. Stoked to see this project come to life 🤘🏼
You are going to love the build experience Trent, and you will truly know your own aircraft inside out when completed. Props to you for getting involved in the build
Understand to a point about keeping things in the USA. Bearhawk build assist facilty and ownership is in the US though. Dont forget Rotax and Garmin avionics arent made in the USA either! Congrats on the Cub! Its going to be a blast either way!
WOW Trent, how cool is that! You getting to assist the build process is beyond fantastic. I could see what you are talking about with the smiling faces looking back at your lens. Makes me want to work there and i am retired. Really happy for you man. I have always wanted to fly my own plane but raising kids and working like i used to did not lend itself well to that commitment. I guess i live vicariously through your videos and adventures. Thank you so much Trent for such great content. Once again, I am really happy for you on this build.
Trent, I know this is a wild thought, but when you put a car horn on the Freedom Fox, that was very cool!!! How about a train horn to really catch people off guard on the new awesome Legend build coming to town!!! I’m so happy for you on living a very cool dream!!!! Thank you for sharing your passion!!!
I named my boat ‘Never Satisfied’…. Always looking for bigger, better, faster, higher, BETTER!! This plane sounds incredible!! Can’t wait to see it flying.
Gosh this reminds me of my uncle in the 60’s building his Pitts special. I’d spend time with him while he was sanding every little part. Mid way through his building the wings they changed the design and he scrapped the whole wing set he built and started over. So many pieces were works of art. He finally got his plane doe and flew it in the 80’s. What a labor of love. He had a single car garage in San Antonio . He had to build another garage to hold the plane once its was nearly finished.
Excited for the next chapter with the new bird. My little boy loves aviation and loves your channel so keep it coming and sharing the new build process in-factory is great and a good confidence-boost to future builder-pilots. We appreciate the professionalism that you put into each and every video with some of the finest video work you can do with POV cameras and drones. Keep it coming.
I'm in such admiration for the craftmanship and builders of these planes. You can tell they are such seasoned pros. So excited for this build Trent. My very first thought is that the tandem will be a real change for your and your wife who sometimes comes along with you and she got used to sitting by you. But you guys will get used to it and I'm sure she will settle in! 17:08 what a pathetic thing that company did sending you that "cease & desist) , first impressions are everything and as you said you are promoting back country aviation and a company that makes bush planes has a grumpy episode! Dont blame you at all for giving them a miss! Onward and upward!
Just wanted to comment on just how far your videographer skills have come. The smoothness and continuity of your initial monologue over several "cuts" and an extended time. That was really cool to watch.
Mike can't do that. There is certain things Mike can not do, and building someone else's dream aircraft is one of them. If you remember the plan to build Scrappy in the beginning, you will know that Scrappy became something so entirely different, it should have been called Scratchy. Some stuff on that airplane just didn't exist anywhere until Mike build it. I think what Trent is doing, is really a quite awesome way to build an aircraft.
Took some welding classes local community collage we were not allowed to touch the TIG welder until we passed our gas and stick welding tests that was after 100's of welds. Instructor he was older guy who welded high rise buildings in NYC arms shook like crazy I suppose now looking back he probably had Parkinson's. Watching him lay down a bead was amazing skill weld with a gas torch on 14G steel weld two pieces together.
Question... did you mean wouldn't let you touch the Mig welder? Tig is stick welding. I'm an engineer in a full fab shop welding, metal forming, powder paint, assembly. Just curious I know the two are easy to confuse.
CubCrafters received Chinese capital funding by selling them the type certificate for the Top Cub. I think the Legend is the right choice especially since they are working to incorporate the 916 instead of just using a typical Lycoming or Continental. A turbocharged engine just makes more sense for your type of flying. Now just figure a way to mount your Starlink antenna with the narrower fuselage. I'm sure you made sure to install the proper ELT. Having the Repairman Certificate is a nice bonus as well.
@@cyclingbutterbean gotcha, I had to look it up. I guess I assumed because with TIG you manually feed the weld with a stick. I would not call myself a welder. I own a MIG but only use it rarely when needed. I learned something new. Comment wasn't meant to be offending just looking for clarification. Thanks
Trent, I am excited to see this new chapter in your life and the new aircraft. Please keep up with the build videos so we all have an idea of how it is progressing and not be kept in the dark! I am not a fan of the tandem seating but as you said, it's a trade off. Best thing for your passengers in the rear seat is lots of windows so it feels more open and not a coffin and either have a panel in front of them with some nav maps or something of that nature. Even if it is mounted on your seat. That will help your passenger feel less of a trapped soul. Put a mirror above the pilots seat so you and your passenger can keep eye contact when talking and you not have to wrench your neck around to check on them. Also, please do another horn/smoke system install in this one. The smoke helps you alot judging wind in the backcountry as well as looking cool as heck. and come one, everyone LOVES the horn. But man, please please ,this time have it on a separate switch.
Filmmakers: take notes on this video’s intro. He’s spreading a whole paragraph across several shots, and turned it into an engaging story! Beautiful done!
@@fredbugden3511I’m pretty sure excluding the engines and maybe the custom extrusion he spends way less than you would assume he just happens to have access to the tools because he owns business that own them for normal operations
2:52 Should say Sulphur Springs,TX. Right down the road from me, toured the Legend Cub factory a few years ago with the flying club, super nice aircraft! Stoked to see your final aircraft!
There is a story that does the Cub proud, and our Nation. Bazooka Charlie and his Cub Rosie the Rocketer. Major Charlie was also known as The Mad Major. A true American Hero.
Mount a small round mirror above you in the front so you can still have eye contact and conversation with your wife. That might help eliminate the tandem hesitation.
Even after the FAA debacle you are number 1 for keeping your dollars out of Mexico. As a old (75ish) A&P was nice to see you make your own ribs and loading the spars and starting your cowl design . It will be a great day when your'e taking the virgin flight GO TRENT !
You should paint your airplane based off a bird. Like a Red-winged Blackbird and have feathers painted on the wings. My first plane will be based off a wood duck I think
Trent! Wonderful news. Awesome you went to the factory and help out on your own aircraft. I am still flying an older Maule M4 with a Franklin 220. Still love it! Perhaps some day I will come out your way and look you. Up! Fishing time….
*_Can't argue with the performance specs. I think the seating arraignment however is going to be an issue you end up regretting. As for the color, that plane in the background during your talk looks really nice._* 👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣
I don’t even fly, but am enjoying watching your journey. For me it was a long good career in engineering and development from the industrial age up until present day - as I am about to retire. Watching people work hard to achieve their desires is always a great story.
The CubCrafters story is a great example that a company can do thousands of things correctly, but all it takes is one bad experience, and that story will be told multiple times to various people. I'm not trying to invalidate your experience, it's just something I learned while I worked for Les Schwab and read his book, Les Schwab: Pride in Performance.
That’s basically everywhere lookhead had the worst radiological disaster in the us and nobody knows about it and three miles island had no unplanned discharges of radioactive gas but in the common knowledge it was a disaster
This is such an amazing way to build an aircraft. It solves all the worries keeping you from building your own aircraft alone. This will be a good aircraft, and it will get build, so you can just burn into it, because it's almost impossible to go wrong. When you can be that confident, all the energy goes into hard work and good emotions. Awesome !
I love that you understand that there is a time for everything. The freedom fox is an amazing plane. It will be the plane I build coming soon. But I could tell from your last couple of years videos that your missions were changing. You want to do more and the Kit Fox real gross weight and fuel and stol performance wouldn’t do what you needed. Your plane is going to be awesome. The people who are complaining probably don’t own a plane. Your doing awesome Trent everything you have done for the aviation community is awesome I love ya congrats on your new adventures.
That's awesome that you're building a MOAC! I have an American Legend AL 18, and I absolutely love it! I feature a couple videos with it on my channel although I'm not an avid TH-cam creator. I would love the MOAC! You are going to be amazed by the performance. Loaded with VG's, she stalls at 23 knots published, but I have a video at 3000 feet MSL , and 1800 RPM, flying level, zero VSI and the airspeed indicator going well below 23 in fact it went so low it wasn't even registering a number any more ! And having those giant doors wide open on both sides is just a fantastic way to fly!!
Hi Trent, I think what you are doing is super cool. Building a custom bush plane with legend aircraft is really awesome. I hope to become part of the bush plane community one day. I’m only 17 at the moment, but you and your videos have really inspired me to live out my dream of becoming a back country pilot. And for that. I say thank you. Thank you for being an awesome source of inspiration for me and everyone who watch your videos. For a color scheme, I think maybe the plane would look cool with the aircraft painted red and a black American flag scheme somewhere on the aircraft. Maybe towards the wings or on the tail section somewhere. What ever paint scheme you come up with, I’m sure it’ll be awesome.
I have tried both tandem and side by side. And I will always go side by side. If anything happens someone sitting beside you has a far better view to see where to land and if you need help with flying the aircraft they are right there. Plus you can hand them stuff to hold, look at a map or information and workout things together. You will also find that someone who has never flown before will be far more likely to do a better job in an emergency. Anyway good luck with the build and I hope you enjoy your new adventure.
Hi, just reaching out to STOL pilots that if you are anywhere near North Carolina you could do a lot of good by stuffing your plane with supplies and flying into the communities that are cut off by the flooding. Of course open airports are the first choice, but if you can land anywhere, do it! Get your non flying neighbors to provide the stuff.
I like your thought process on how you chose which manufacturer to go. I find your approach to what ever you are doing is very thorough. Can’t wait to follow along and see how your plane turns out.
For a paint scheme, you might consider one of your favorite characters or symbols. My husband used to build and fly RC sailplanes. He liked to use red with yellow accents. On the yellow rudder, there would be a lion rampant, representing Aslan, the "Not A Tame Lion" from the Chronicles of Narnia. He'd also put a yellow or white band on one of the wings, so he'd know which direction it was flying when it was high up on a thermal. Those things only had about a six foot wingspan, more or less, and could be very hard to see. Similarly, blancolirio bought the twin engine Cessna "Harvey," with the white rabbit Harvey on the tail. You mentioned you like red. But in your backcountry flying, a high visibility color scheme would be better for safety. Red both is, and is not, a high visibility color. Like the Freedom Fox, mixing red with other colors will really help it stand out.
I didn't hear a cost. I know that's a bit personal, but something ballpark would be helpful for us dreamers. Personally, I don't see a big difference between this and the Kitfox. Not enough to sink a bunch of money on anyway.
Legend Cubs are about $400k. I think you can get them as low as $350k if you go bare bones. His build is custom and he has added some stuff, so it is probably north of the 400 marker, but probably under 450. He might be getting a discount on his for promoting them, but that gives you a ballpark for what to expect if you wanted the same thing.
So, 10x the cost of a Kitfox for maybe 20% more airplane? Doesn't seem like a good deal to me. And I can't wrap my head around why one would be so expensive. There's really not that much to one.
@@jasonhurdlow6607labor labor labor. You’re paying a company to manufacture and engineer whatever customizations you want. Plus they need to turn a profit to keep the lights on.
@jasonhurdlow6607 show me a kitfox for 40k....the engine is 60k, and the avionics he had would have been close to the same. You want a kitfox decked out with builder assist and you're probably looking at $250k....
Legends in the best cub out there. I had a FX3 cc about 3 years ago. Bad customer relations and support for 2nd hand buyers. Legend is about2 hr north of me and i heard you visited there I’m glad you went with the. Great guys and a great company.
No need to explain yourself. Do what you want to do. Good man, keep that money in the US. LOL the bug, bitten as a child? Truly enjoy your content. Thank you. John
congrats trent! As an experimental super cub owner I would DIE for mine to get the Legend touch and some upgrades! I've loved their cubs for so long! you definitely won't be disappointed
Fun fact, Rotax didn’t want to work with me again, I am paying full price for a Rotax… and I did have an offer to work with another reputable engine manufacturer but turned it down because of how much I believe the 916 is the best option for this. So short answer yep! Haha
@@TrentonPalmer I was going back and forth. I’ve got a 914 in my KFA Safari. Love it. I want a cub. Come down to Arkansas! Lots of back country here too! Fly Oz! Thanks for the response. I know which way I’m going😁
Given the options you made the right choice. I am a 3 time Carbon Cub SS owner since 2010. I placed a deposit for the first US Carbon Cub UL position in March of 2023. I cancelled that position last month. I really wanted the 916iS in a CC SS, but many of the same issues you cited with Cubcrafters (the company) where too much for me. It is not the same company as it was when Jim Richmond and Randy Lervold were running things. Good luck on the build. Looks like Legend Cub is filling that role now.
One think i want to hear is that you are still a friend with all the nice people in Kitfox, i personally would have feel hurt if my best advertiser goes to the competitors..
I am still good friends with everyone at Kitfox. Actually John the owner was the first person I called when I started considering making the move and he was super supportive, great people over there!
@@TrentonPalmer nice to hear that, i was inspired mostly from you and now i am building a kitfox(older model), so lots of us would be happy if you make some kitfox content in the future. Other than that a great anouncing video looking forward to watch more of it!
Hey Trent, super excited for you! Been enjoying your content for years now. Looking forward to this new chapter! Would be pretty neat for you to collaborate with P42 again and get this beast in MSFS 2024 for us to enjoy ourselves! Just a thought :)
Fantastic build! As someone who builds model aircraft on my channel, I greatly appreciate the complexity and labor of love involved in this REAL build!. Legendary.
Nah, you can put any motor you want in a Bearhawk. It is experimental. I have a buddy who has helped put a turbine in traditional piston driven planes. He built the first KR2 with a turbine. He and I discussed it quite a bit. It would take some work to get the weight and balance right on it. The weight of a turbine vs an IO540 is substantial.
I flew a Bearhawk for a few years out of a 600ft strip and I think Trent was right to go with the cub. There's a lot of flying he does that wouldn't work in the Bearhawk.
My friend Jimmy and I spent some time with Darin at Rock the Ramp this year going over his Legend aircraft. Those are some awesome and well thought out aircraft. Great choice Trent. And Darin is a first class guy. When I am in the market, Legend will be my choice
So nice to hear from you finally ! I guessed that you would go with an ampibian plane... due to your excitement at fishing on remotre lakes,... Hailey must love you a lot to accept to loose the side by side seating configuration ! I wish you great succes with this new build ! And do not forget to keep your friends at parallel 42 informet of the new Trent Palmer Legend Cub for the Microsoft flight simulator FS2020 ! Waiting for your next video !!!
It’s fun to hear about what you wanted in your aircraft. The interesting thing is we have very similar requirements for our aircraft. I too wanted a well built (strong) airframe, a nice finish, lots of range (fuel), a glass panel, lots of baggage area, and a good cruise speed in a tandem aircraft. I did not need to get into really short strips nor did I want to customize the airframe, so my choice was the Aviat Husky A-1C. With 1,860 hours PIC in Huskies, I still love them. I hope you have as GREAT of experience with your Legend Cub.
@@TrentonPalmer what about autogyros? you can get a starter on the main Rotor for shorter take off, you can put them on floats and by adding wings like on the Mi-24 Hind you can create extra lift wich means either more payload or longer range.
@@TrentonPalmer Ya there are a lot of advantages to fixed wing. I got checked out in the PA-18 Super cub in England last weekend for my tailwheel conversion. I am so impressed by what the 1955 Super Cub can do, in Europe we can't just land anywhere so a PA-18 here can fly anywhere, I can't imagine what your KitFox or your Legend Cub is going to do mate... Congrats!
Thanks for not shying away from talking about the reasons you didn’t go with others. Stoked for ya!
im sad it isnt a side by side one. I build a BH 4 place in year and like the chanel since day 1.
I wish he'd go for the yellow USA biplane color's as in his intro, or if he'd want more blue the same thing but blue fueselage with yellow wings sill with circle and star, like those old Cox Baby Bee control line airplanes... Think that new plane looks awesome yellow, and good way to keep it USA (navy or army?!) me thinks 🤔 @trentonpalmer
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Gotta say with mike patey taking time off from making airplane build videos its refreshing to get a new build on TH-cam!! Love the channel and look forward to seeing this new ride fly!!
I still have yet to see Scrappy out in the back country!
@@Cornstalker7273didn’t he pause the insurance on it saying he didn’t have time to fly it because of the house and work
Guaranteed he’s building something right now… just because he’s not posting videos doesn’t mean he’s not building something!
He will be back
I know I've got so much more done with no Mike P videos that you have to watch .... did that come out right ? ..
2:19 that parking job though…
Haha I said the same thing, shocking! 😂
Hahaha, I didn’t even pay attention since it was a Sunday and there was nobody there 🤪
@@TrentonPalmer just giving you a hard time haha. Awesome video and super excited for the build!
@@TrentonPalmer haha couldn't help but point it out, hope you park the planes better in the hangars 😅😜🤘
I was in America recently and was amazed and how shit everyone parked everywhere. Seemed like the lines were just a suggestion
I had the same vibe from CubCrafters too. If you’re not rich. They don’t even want to entertain you. Vans aircraft will give you a free airplane ride if you just show up. I think you picked a good choice.
Your dedication to keeping your money in the US made me pretty damn proud of you. It's going to be fun watching you build out this adventure plane.
Rotax is USA? 🇺🇸
Um, Rotax. A 916 is a pretty good chunk of the overall build cost.
Of course, there is no _Made in USA_ analogue, just expensive and heavy antiques.
Yeah, there’s pretty much no such thing as completely built in the USA. 25 year-old Harley Davidson, are half metric fasteners. 😅😅😅 Rotax is a German company I believe which is owned by Bombardier which is a Canadian company. So…
Keeping in the US so they can send it to Ukraine or some imigrant .
@@lucianoaugustob hopefully that changes soon. Notice them using diversions to send more money to Ukraine. Like one last good funnel of cleaned money funneled back to them?
The intro is under appreciated!! I mean...the thought put into the journey from home, airport, rental, travel, and arrival was a joy to watch. All while you explain why you're on this journey...Chef's kiss
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@TrentonPalmer Spectacular intro!!!!!!!!!
I hope you document this whole build. I love it when we get to watch somebody build something and then play with it once it's done!
Trent, I have been following your blog for 4 to 5 years and have thoroughly enjoyed it. I am 79 and had an uncle who was a professional pilot and introduce me to Aviation when I was 5 years old. He took me and my mother for my first plane ride in a Stinson when I was about 5 years old. That hooked me on flying but I finally rode with him in a piper P3 Cub when I was about 13 years old. We flew around our hometown of Auburn Indiana and I took pictures of the town and of our home in the country. I finally earned my private license when I was in my second year of being in the Army at Fort . That was when I was about 24 years old. I flew for a couple of years but had to give up flying when I got married and had a family. I have never given up my love for Aviation and still hold a dream of perhaps renewing my license. I look forward to your completing your build and enjoying your videos of your new cub.
Nice parking job Trent 🤣
Influencers park where they want!😅
At least it was an empty lot
I thought the same, but in an empty lot while trying to film a monologue, you get a little leeway. 😅
This is so cool, Trent! It's like the love child of a Piper Cub and a Kitfox...but this baby is going to be greater than the sum of its parts. I hope to see a unicorn on it somewhere.
12:09 NICE GREAT commentary Trent. Very honest and at the end of the day, it's your money and decision. Looking forward to the next vids! !! !!!
I’m currently building a kitfox in Houston. I went back and forth between KF and Legend. I ended up going with the Kitfox because of side by side seating and price but man, I really love the legend.
I have a thing about rubbing shoulders while flying. Reason why I have an RV-8 and not an RV-7.
@@jcheck6 my wife is a snuggler and put her foot down on not having a tandem 😜
Trent, your videos never disappoint they are so well informed and full of useful information and insights. I’d like to thank Legend aircraft for allowing you to film what they are doing and progress of your build, it’s so awesome to see the progress of an airplane being built from the ground up and all the actual engineering that goes into it. Thanks again for sharing, I believe it’s going to be a grand experience for not only you but for those of us that have been following your adventures from the start. May you have blue skies and tail winds. See ya
That's going to be a great plane! Keep it light with longer wings - That's what I did with my 172, ditched everything that added weight and added 3 feet of extra wing length.
Can't wait to see it in the air!
Respect for that 2:50 intro. Very nicely done
Ditto.
That red behind you while you where talking about colors looks amazing.
Kinda looked maroon. Maroon with a bit of metallic would look awesome.
I thought the camera was going to shift focus and be like "oh this is what I was thinking"
The Bearhawk Patrol is a 2-place tandem that probably would have meet all your back country requirements with a 140 mph cruise, but you would've had to assemble/build a lot more of it yourself, particularly if you wanted to try and use the 916.
You'll be happy with what you've chosen. FWIW, my wife prefers tandem.
I expected a Bearhawk as well. Just seems like it ticks all the boxes. The Patrol is only 850 useful. But the Companion would be there and keep side by side seating which is nicer with the spouse and 250 lbs baggage. Would not have to convert to tandem.
The bearhawk patrol is a really nice ride.
22:04 Smoooth transistion...just like into your New LEGENDary Plane! Cheers! Jason
Yo Trent! I’m a new follower and holy pierogi have I found a gold mine of a channel. I’m a new pilot in training and your vids are max inspiring. Stoked to see this project come to life 🤘🏼
Glad to have you here man! And thanks! Stick with your training and you’ll be at checkride in no time, you’ll never regret getting your certificate!
@@TrentonPalmer 🙏🏼 Do you happen to have a rough ETA on a deadline for paint scheme ideas?
You are going to love the build experience Trent, and you will truly know your own aircraft inside out when completed. Props to you for getting involved in the build
Understand to a point about keeping things in the USA. Bearhawk build assist facilty and ownership is in the US though. Dont forget Rotax and Garmin avionics arent made in the USA either! Congrats on the Cub! Its going to be a blast either way!
WOW Trent, how cool is that! You getting to assist the build process is beyond fantastic. I could see what you are talking about with the smiling faces looking back at your lens. Makes me want to work there and i am retired. Really happy for you man. I have always wanted to fly my own plane but raising kids and working like i used to did not lend itself well to that commitment. I guess i live vicariously through your videos and adventures. Thank you so much Trent for such great content. Once again, I am really happy for you on this build.
The big wheel guys are workin' the disaster area... guys like you.
If you want a hint of what looks really badass, look at the paint job behind you!
What a beauty!
The paint scheme you decribed made me think of Cleatus's helicopter Consuela. I bet some artists will come up with some awesome ideas.
That is a truly awesome-looking helicopter.
10:20 Love the "No Pebble Mine" sticker on the cup, hell yeah.
Trent, I know this is a wild thought, but when you put a car horn on the Freedom Fox, that was very cool!!! How about a train horn to really catch people off guard on the new awesome Legend build coming to town!!!
I’m so happy for you on living a very cool dream!!!! Thank you for sharing your passion!!!
Sounds like you made a great decision and the peace of mind is priceless. Can't wait to see it fly.
I named my boat ‘Never Satisfied’…. Always looking for bigger, better, faster, higher, BETTER!! This plane sounds incredible!! Can’t wait to see it flying.
Gosh this reminds me of my uncle in the 60’s building his Pitts special. I’d spend time with him while he was sanding every little part. Mid way through his building the wings they changed the design and he scrapped the whole wing set he built and started over. So many pieces were works of art. He finally got his plane doe and flew it in the 80’s.
What a labor of love. He had a single car garage in San Antonio . He had to build another garage to hold the plane once its was nearly finished.
Excited for the next chapter with the new bird. My little boy loves aviation and loves your channel so keep it coming and sharing the new build process in-factory is great and a good confidence-boost to future builder-pilots. We appreciate the professionalism that you put into each and every video with some of the finest video work you can do with POV cameras and drones. Keep it coming.
I'm in such admiration for the craftmanship and builders of these planes. You can tell they are such seasoned pros. So excited for this build Trent. My very first thought is that the tandem will be a real change for your and your wife who sometimes comes along with you and she got used to sitting by you. But you guys will get used to it and I'm sure she will settle in! 17:08 what a pathetic thing that company did sending you that "cease & desist) , first impressions are everything and as you said you are promoting back country aviation and a company that makes bush planes has a grumpy episode! Dont blame you at all for giving them a miss! Onward and upward!
That says a whole lot about what caliber company they are. Speaks volumes! Can't wait to start seeing the test flights of this one!
Just wanted to comment on just how far your videographer skills have come. The smoothness and continuity of your initial monologue over several "cuts" and an extended time. That was really cool to watch.
Awesome aircraft! Enjoy yourself!
Congrats. You will have a ton of fun being a part of the build. Im very much looking forward to watching this process unfold.
Unicorn SuperCub with long endurance, eh? Just ask Mike Patey to build you a custom Scrappy derivative.
that'd be epic
Ha….beat me to it..👍
I'm guessing that they've chatted a bit on this subject 😃
With all of the engineering that would go into, I can't even imagine the cost. Worth every penny though!
Mike can't do that. There is certain things Mike can not do, and building someone else's dream aircraft is one of them. If you remember the plan to build Scrappy in the beginning, you will know that Scrappy became something so entirely different, it should have been called Scratchy. Some stuff on that airplane just didn't exist anywhere until Mike build it. I think what Trent is doing, is really a quite awesome way to build an aircraft.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your flying building with us. I look forward to seeing your videos.
It’s going to be a fun adventure to take everyone on!
I was looking forward to the 172 on floats ;) This looks like an awesome dream build. Excited to see the progress and maiden!
Looking forward to your new adventure. Great way to take the time to tell all your followers the process you have gone through.
I agree with leaving the freedom fox livery with JJ
This is awesome!
Took some welding classes local community collage we were not allowed to touch the TIG welder until we passed our gas and stick welding tests that was after 100's of welds. Instructor he was older guy who welded high rise buildings in NYC arms shook like crazy I suppose now looking back he probably had Parkinson's. Watching him lay down a bead was amazing skill weld with a gas torch on 14G steel weld two pieces together.
Question... did you mean wouldn't let you touch the Mig welder? Tig is stick welding. I'm an engineer in a full fab shop welding, metal forming, powder paint, assembly. Just curious I know the two are easy to confuse.
Same story took a some night classes at a community collage and the instructor had the shakes bad and could he ever lay down some fine looking welds.
CubCrafters received Chinese capital funding by selling them the type certificate for the Top Cub. I think the Legend is the right choice especially since they are working to incorporate the 916 instead of just using a typical Lycoming or Continental. A turbocharged engine just makes more sense for your type of flying. Now just figure a way to mount your Starlink antenna with the narrower fuselage. I'm sure you made sure to install the proper ELT. Having the Repairman Certificate is a nice bonus as well.
@@justinlareau2227 "TIG is stick welding"? I think not.
@@cyclingbutterbean gotcha, I had to look it up. I guess I assumed because with TIG you manually feed the weld with a stick. I would not call myself a welder. I own a MIG but only use it rarely when needed. I learned something new. Comment wasn't meant to be offending just looking for clarification. Thanks
13:15 The red in the back looks f ing nice!
7:36 ”give some of those shoulder rubs” 🤣🤣🤣
I thought the same thing
Those are some of the benefits I guess
Haha
Be great after an hour or two of fly fishing.😉
@@blueman5924 oh yeah
Trent, I am excited to see this new chapter in your life and the new aircraft. Please keep up with the build videos so we all have an idea of how it is progressing and not be kept in the dark! I am not a fan of the tandem seating but as you said, it's a trade off. Best thing for your passengers in the rear seat is lots of windows so it feels more open and not a coffin and either have a panel in front of them with some nav maps or something of that nature. Even if it is mounted on your seat. That will help your passenger feel less of a trapped soul. Put a mirror above the pilots seat so you and your passenger can keep eye contact when talking and you not have to wrench your neck around to check on them. Also, please do another horn/smoke system install in this one. The smoke helps you alot judging wind in the backcountry as well as looking cool as heck. and come one, everyone LOVES the horn. But man, please please ,this time have it on a separate switch.
Filmmakers: take notes on this video’s intro. He’s spreading a whole paragraph across several shots, and turned it into an engaging story! Beautiful done!
Thx Trent...gonna be a great build...looking forward to the finished plane.
From 'Cub Killer' to 'Cub Collaborator'...I would have preferred the 'Freedom Wilga' (built by Mike Patey).
Waiting on DracoX like everyone else but Mike Patey's build budgets read like the operating cost for a not so small town.
@@fredbugden3511 It wasn't a serious aspiration.
@@fredbugden3511I’m pretty sure excluding the engines and maybe the custom extrusion he spends way less than you would assume he just happens to have access to the tools because he owns business that own them for normal operations
2:52 Should say Sulphur Springs,TX. Right down the road from me, toured the Legend Cub factory a few years ago with the flying club, super nice aircraft! Stoked to see your final aircraft!
There is a story that does the Cub proud, and our Nation.
Bazooka Charlie and his Cub
Rosie the Rocketer.
Major Charlie was also known as The Mad Major. A true American Hero.
Congrats on your new airplane.
Mount a small round mirror above you in the front so you can still have eye contact and conversation with your wife. That might help eliminate the tandem hesitation.
I have one to my 1938 Cub - works great with the kiddos
Even after the FAA debacle you are number 1 for keeping your dollars out of Mexico. As a old (75ish) A&P was nice to see you make your own ribs and loading the spars and starting your cowl design . It will be a great day when your'e taking the virgin flight GO TRENT !
You should paint your airplane based off a bird. Like a Red-winged Blackbird and have feathers painted on the wings. My first plane will be based off a wood duck I think
Trent! Wonderful news. Awesome you went to the factory and help out on your own aircraft. I am still flying an older Maule M4 with a Franklin 220. Still love it! Perhaps some day I will come out your way and look you. Up! Fishing time….
*_Can't argue with the performance specs. I think the seating arraignment however is going to be an issue you end up regretting. As for the color, that plane in the background during your talk looks really nice._* 👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣
I don’t even fly, but am enjoying watching your journey. For me it was a long good career in engineering and development from the industrial age up until present day - as I am about to retire. Watching people work hard to achieve their desires is always a great story.
The CubCrafters story is a great example that a company can do thousands of things correctly, but all it takes is one bad experience, and that story will be told multiple times to various people. I'm not trying to invalidate your experience, it's just something I learned while I worked for Les Schwab and read his book, Les Schwab: Pride in Performance.
That’s basically everywhere lookhead had the worst radiological disaster in the us and nobody knows about it and three miles island had no unplanned discharges of radioactive gas but in the common knowledge it was a disaster
This is such an amazing way to build an aircraft. It solves all the worries keeping you from building your own aircraft alone. This will be a good aircraft, and it will get build, so you can just burn into it, because it's almost impossible to go wrong. When you can be that confident, all the energy goes into hard work and good emotions. Awesome !
American flag tail would be pretty cool.
I love how you know what you want and you’re going to make sure that’s what you get. Never settle! That’s my philosophy!
SUCH a great choice, Trent! I'm excited for you.👍👍
I love that you understand that there is a time for everything. The freedom fox is an amazing plane. It will be the plane I build coming soon. But I could tell from your last couple of years videos that your missions were changing. You want to do more and the Kit Fox real gross weight and fuel and stol performance wouldn’t do what you needed. Your plane is going to be awesome. The people who are complaining probably don’t own a plane. Your doing awesome Trent everything you have done for the aviation community is awesome I love ya congrats on your new adventures.
YES! I called it on your last video. I said go to Legend Cub!!!👍👍👍👍👍
That's awesome that you're building a MOAC! I have an American Legend AL 18, and I absolutely love it! I feature a couple videos with it on my channel although I'm not an avid TH-cam creator. I would love the MOAC! You are going to be amazed by the performance. Loaded with VG's, she stalls at 23 knots published, but I have a video at 3000 feet MSL , and 1800 RPM, flying level, zero VSI and the airspeed indicator going well below 23 in fact it went so low it wasn't even registering a number any more ! And having those giant doors wide open on both sides is just a fantastic way to fly!!
That's shocking parking there Trent at 2:24 🤣
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Hi Trent,
I think what you are doing is super cool. Building a custom bush plane with legend aircraft is really awesome.
I hope to become part of the bush plane community one day. I’m only 17 at the moment, but you and your videos have really inspired me to live out my dream of becoming a back country pilot. And for that. I say thank you. Thank you for being an awesome source of inspiration for me and everyone who watch your videos.
For a color scheme, I think maybe the plane would look cool with the aircraft painted red and a black American flag scheme somewhere on the aircraft. Maybe towards the wings or on the tail section somewhere. What ever paint scheme you come up with, I’m sure it’ll be awesome.
Thanks Malcolm!!
@trent man great video! Love the way you filmed it! Love the topic! I am hooked…..
Great explanations on several levels and I look forward to the "out and about" travels.
I thought you'd gone all out Turbine Legend 😂
I have tried both tandem and side by side. And I will always go side by side. If anything happens someone sitting beside you has a far better view to see where to land and if you need help with flying the aircraft they are right there. Plus you can hand them stuff to hold, look at a map or information and workout things together. You will also find that someone who has never flown before will be far more likely to do a better job in an emergency. Anyway good luck with the build and I hope you enjoy your new adventure.
Hi, just reaching out to STOL pilots that if you are anywhere near North Carolina you could do a lot of good by stuffing your plane with supplies and flying into the communities that are cut off by the flooding. Of course open airports are the first choice, but if you can land anywhere, do it! Get your non flying neighbors to provide the stuff.
I like your thought process on how you chose which manufacturer to go. I find your approach to what ever you are doing is very thorough. Can’t wait to follow along and see how your plane turns out.
Legend red, white and blue paint job. 60's corvette.
That’s a good idea, white side cove painted to match the curve of the curved rear window.
For a paint scheme, you might consider one of your favorite characters or symbols.
My husband used to build and fly RC sailplanes. He liked to use red with yellow accents. On the yellow rudder, there would be a lion rampant, representing Aslan, the "Not A Tame Lion" from the Chronicles of Narnia. He'd also put a yellow or white band on one of the wings, so he'd know which direction it was flying when it was high up on a thermal. Those things only had about a six foot wingspan, more or less, and could be very hard to see.
Similarly, blancolirio bought the twin engine Cessna "Harvey," with the white rabbit Harvey on the tail.
You mentioned you like red. But in your backcountry flying, a high visibility color scheme would be better for safety. Red both is, and is not, a high visibility color. Like the Freedom Fox, mixing red with other colors will really help it stand out.
I didn't hear a cost. I know that's a bit personal, but something ballpark would be helpful for us dreamers.
Personally, I don't see a big difference between this and the Kitfox. Not enough to sink a bunch of money on anyway.
Legend Cubs are about $400k. I think you can get them as low as $350k if you go bare bones. His build is custom and he has added some stuff, so it is probably north of the 400 marker, but probably under 450. He might be getting a discount on his for promoting them, but that gives you a ballpark for what to expect if you wanted the same thing.
So, 10x the cost of a Kitfox for maybe 20% more airplane? Doesn't seem like a good deal to me. And I can't wrap my head around why one would be so expensive. There's really not that much to one.
@@jasonhurdlow6607a kitfox is not 1/10th the cost
@@jasonhurdlow6607labor labor labor. You’re paying a company to manufacture and engineer whatever customizations you want. Plus they need to turn a profit to keep the lights on.
@jasonhurdlow6607 show me a kitfox for 40k....the engine is 60k, and the avionics he had would have been close to the same. You want a kitfox decked out with builder assist and you're probably looking at $250k....
Legends in the best cub out there. I had a FX3 cc about 3 years ago. Bad customer relations and support for 2nd hand buyers. Legend is about2 hr north of me and i heard you visited there I’m glad you went with the. Great guys and a great company.
You are not alone, I’ve heard that from too many people
I’ve had outstanding customer support from CC even buying my cub second hand. Their team there at Yakima works hard.
No need to explain yourself.
Do what you want to do.
Good man, keep that money in the US.
LOL the bug, bitten as a child?
Truly enjoy your content.
Thank you.
John
Kept much the money in US……except the engine; no?
congrats trent! As an experimental super cub owner I would DIE for mine to get the Legend touch and some upgrades! I've loved their cubs for so long! you definitely won't be disappointed
Outstanding! I’m about to pull the trigger on a Badlands. If you weren’t sponsored by Rotax Owners Group would you still put in a Rotax?
Fun fact, Rotax didn’t want to work with me again, I am paying full price for a Rotax… and I did have an offer to work with another reputable engine manufacturer but turned it down because of how much I believe the 916 is the best option for this. So short answer yep! Haha
@@TrentonPalmer I was going back and forth. I’ve got a 914 in my KFA Safari. Love it. I want a cub. Come down to Arkansas! Lots of back country here too! Fly Oz! Thanks for the response. I know which way I’m going😁
That is the absolute best choice! I am stoked for you!
Hail storm will love the back seat! More room! 😊
"You were the chosen one!"
"It was said that you would destroy the cubs, not join them!"
😂
Haha yes!
Mike Patey’s build aren’t so budget friendly! Lol
@@coreythomas9178 His builds have a budget ? I thought he worked on more of a " spend until you're done basis"
Nice to see some new plane content. It's refreshing. 💪
Club Crafters would do anything for you if your last name was Patey.
Because I don’t keep up what has CC ever done for Mike except give/sell him off the shelf parts for his custom builds
Should stagger the front seats so that your not shoulder to shoulder but still close
Horn, smoke, Starlink?...lol
Given the options you made the right choice. I am a 3 time Carbon Cub SS owner since 2010. I placed a deposit for the first US Carbon Cub UL position in March of 2023. I cancelled that position last month. I really wanted the 916iS in a CC SS, but many of the same issues you cited with Cubcrafters (the company) where too much for me. It is not the same company as it was when Jim Richmond and Randy Lervold were running things. Good luck on the build. Looks like Legend Cub is filling that role now.
Didn’t cubcrafters go public/ipo? Once that happens, it boards, committees, risk management and MBAs tracking quarterly KPIs.
One think i want to hear is that you are still a friend with all the nice people in Kitfox, i personally would have feel hurt if my best advertiser goes to the competitors..
I am still good friends with everyone at Kitfox. Actually John the owner was the first person I called when I started considering making the move and he was super supportive, great people over there!
@@TrentonPalmer nice to hear that, i was inspired mostly from you and now i am building a kitfox(older model), so lots of us would be happy if you make some kitfox content in the future. Other than that a great anouncing video looking forward to watch more of it!
No turbine tho
Hey Trent, super excited for you! Been enjoying your content for years now. Looking forward to this new chapter! Would be pretty neat for you to collaborate with P42 again and get this beast in MSFS 2024 for us to enjoy ourselves! Just a thought :)
How did this awesome simple hobby go from the J3 Cub to a bushplane that costs 400.000 bucks! what a shame.
Fantastic build! As someone who builds model aircraft on my channel, I greatly appreciate the complexity and labor of love involved in this REAL build!. Legendary.
I can’t believe you didn’t go to a BearHawk
Junk pre-war motor🤷🏻♂️
Nah, you can put any motor you want in a Bearhawk. It is experimental. I have a buddy who has helped put a turbine in traditional piston driven planes. He built the first KR2 with a turbine. He and I discussed it quite a bit. It would take some work to get the weight and balance right on it. The weight of a turbine vs an IO540 is substantial.
I flew a Bearhawk for a few years out of a 600ft strip and I think Trent was right to go with the cub. There's a lot of flying he does that wouldn't work in the Bearhawk.
My friend Jimmy and I spent some time with Darin at Rock the Ramp this year going over his Legend aircraft. Those are some awesome and well thought out aircraft. Great choice Trent. And Darin is a first class guy. When I am in the market, Legend will be my choice
Hi Trent just wondering what happened to Nik's Kitfox build and how's his recovery going now?
Great company, great people, great airplanes! I can say enough good things about Darin and Randi! Great choice ! You won’t be let down!
SO.... when is Nic going to get his aircraft done ???? He owes it to the people that supported him after his crash !
No one forced anyone to dontae!
One has an obligation to follow through - I think.
So nice to hear from you finally ! I guessed that you would go with an ampibian plane... due to your excitement at fishing on remotre lakes,...
Hailey must love you a lot to accept to loose the side by side seating configuration !
I wish you great succes with this new build !
And do not forget to keep your friends at parallel 42 informet of the new Trent Palmer Legend Cub for the Microsoft flight simulator FS2020 !
Waiting for your next video !!!
"You're never going to land as short and perform as good as a 2 place"
Mike Patey enters the chat.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mr. Turboprop!!!!
It’s fun to hear about what you wanted in your aircraft. The interesting thing is we have very similar requirements for our aircraft. I too wanted a well built (strong) airframe, a nice finish, lots of range (fuel), a glass panel, lots of baggage area, and a good cruise speed in a tandem aircraft. I did not need to get into really short strips nor did I want to customize the airframe, so my choice was the Aviat Husky A-1C. With 1,860 hours PIC in Huskies, I still love them. I hope you have as GREAT of experience with your Legend Cub.
Mate, why don't you just give in and get a helicopter
Cost mostly, that and I’m terrified of helicopters! Haha
@@TrentonPalmer what about autogyros? you can get a starter on the main Rotor for shorter take off, you can put them on floats and by adding wings like on the Mi-24 Hind you can create extra lift wich means either more payload or longer range.
@@TrentonPalmer Ya there are a lot of advantages to fixed wing. I got checked out in the PA-18 Super cub in England last weekend for my tailwheel conversion. I am so impressed by what the 1955 Super Cub can do, in Europe we can't just land anywhere so a PA-18 here can fly anywhere, I can't imagine what your KitFox or your Legend Cub is going to do mate... Congrats!