Street Racing Channel Falcon in for Rear End Maintenance at Lucore! Ford 8.8 Gear Changing and such!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- It's been a couple hundred passes since Billy and the Street Racing Channel crew brough us the SRC Falcon to do rear end gears on, after a rather catastrophic failure but before THIS one fails it's time to do some maintenance! With a Ford 8.8 rear end in this race car it's built to take some abuse but was certainly NEVER expected to put up with the crazy power levels and speeds Billy and Tommy are pushing this thing to now.
Anyone who's been paying attention to The Old Man's Garage or Street Racing Channel has probably heard that Tommy has been hearing some additional noise from the rear end but have somewhere near 300+ passes down the track that's not ALL that surprising. Let's tear into this thing and see just how much wear and tear has happened since we were last in this rear end gear.
Much of what we do is work that others COULD do but will trust us to do because it's extremely particular and time consuming, even WITH all the proper tools and tricks. It's not flashy, it's not exciting, and it's certainly not fun, but the difference between a properly set up rear end and one that's just "slapped together" can be the difference between a long winning season and months of frustration and mounting costs.
Huge thanks as always to all our subscribers, followers, fans, and customers who have made our business successful and gotten our channel to where it is today. Special thanks to the SRC / Street Racing Channel / SRC Garage / Old Man's Garage / Junkyard Digs folks for showing such amazing support for us over the past several months. Without all of you we wouldn't be anywhere near where we are today. We hope you enjoy this one!
Nice to see under the car , most people just get to see the taillights 😂
Lol very good point! This little Falcon has done some incredible work since they got it, it's not the prettiest, it's not the most expensive, but man does it WORK!
I'm really surprised it's that clean with all the dirtball roads it's made passes down. Tommy keeps it clean, just didnt know he had payed attention to that.
It's so nice to watch and hear a professional doing his job without all the four letter words, I can watch with my grandkids, thanks.
Thanks Richard we try to keep our content as PG as we can despite the fact a LOT of this kind of work can get very very frustrating. We don't the the flashiest or most entertaining stuff but it's good honest work and some people still appreciate that 👌
Mr. Truesdell, you should also check out the South Main Auto channel. Eric O. has had a great channel going for years now, he is extremely talented and does not limit himself to one make or model. His sense of humor really makes the videos one of a kind and you'll learn quite a bit along the way. It's right up there with Scanner Danner material with as in far depth Eric will take you to prove why he lands on what the actual issue is at hand & it's just a bit more comical. This is absolutely not taking away from Lucore Automotive, I highly respect what these guys provide to us and it's such a broad variety. Just figure I'd throw out another channel to checkout that it family friendly, comical and you'll learn a thing or three along the way.
When it comes to the automotive and automotive repair world we are all one tight knit family.
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You'll find people that use foul language are actually more intelligent than those that don't, it's scientifically proven 👌🏻 In some professions foul language is a must for conveying what you actually want done 🥲
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@@BariLopesh I thought those professions were scripted? 🤔
No lack of maintenance on Prodigy, probably the only thing that makes Uncle Bucko smile. Well done Rich. Can`t wait for next season, more racers will see the tail lights.😁
I do hope Billy & Tommy get you on pod cast so you can explain your past experiance but also your very good verbal teacher or reporter as you do work.
As I said before,your suspenshion and drive train work has been a hit with SRC folks,and others for your work and professional knowledge.Your work is impecable but from a mechs stand point its quality and you have ethics.
I love how Billy thought enough of tommy to bring him in on racing to enjoy the ride that is awesome don't see brother's doing stuff like that alot
Great video once again!! Nice job Rich!
Team src is doing the "maintenance"!
It's not flashy it's not sexy but proper "maintenance" is what puts you in the position to win. Appreciate the watch and comment John!
Cool 😎 The Falcon !!
Yes Sir, just doing a little preseason maintenance! Always appreciate the comment and watch Sir!
Excellent job as always Rich, now the Falcon is ready to leave some more competitors butt hurt again!!
Thanks Billy, it's a lot of rough not so exciting work getting this stuff juuuust right but it helps the boys to do the exciting stuff. We are honored they trust us with this part. Have a feeling there's a great next season ahead!
@@LucoreAuto Absolutely, they have full confidence in y`all to get their cars alignments and rearends correct and safe when they are pushing them to the breaking points!!
I LIKE YOUR VIDEOS. VERY PROFESSIONAL. AND YOU PLAY ALL THE STRUGGLES
Thanks Terry we always try to share and show the good with the bad, even if we screw up it's all honest work over here. Thanks for the watch and supporting us!
I miss the gravity comment when you drop things! Those always make me smile!
Are you and Rich going on their new podcast? You aren't racing but you do work on a ton of racecars and you both have some nice cars you could race on the street.
We would certainly be willing and able to do that if they like at some point Dan, totally up to them. We DO get to have a whole lot of awesome experiences and work on an incredible range of awesome rides. Hopefully we actually get to track some of our own toys next year though!
Man the way he explains everything is premium !
Very well done. In 1962 I blow up the diff pose traction I rebuilt. I learned the hard way.
The SRC team has full confidence of y'alls abilities or their cars wouldn't be in your bays. These videos are so cool because it gives us a different viewpoint of the cars from an outside look (yours) instead of when like Billy or Rob are working on it.
A lot of work goes in setting the rearend up and getting the gears right
You aren't lying Clyde! Even with all the proper tools and tricks there's a whole lot too getting these things set up just right. We are honored that they and many other customers trust us to get it right. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LucoreAuto you are welcome and good luck and God bless you and keep it coming
Awesome work
Thanks Mike much appreciated! Just doing what we do and sharing a bit of it as we go 😀
As long as the gear pattern looks good I'm sure it will be good
I’m surprised you’re using a crush sleeve and not a solid spacer with shims to get desired preload. The crush sleeve tend to lose preload under high stress.
"Ding fries are done" that takes me back a few years haha 😂
Some will get that reference many won't 😉 Can probably guess your approximate age if you DO!
SRC brought me here. Glad it did. I enjoyed your content.
Nice. Good work LUCORE AUTOMOTIVE.
I’ve done a bunch of 8.8’s, mostly in the explorer with independent rear suspension, and the majority of them were always .027-.028”. That’s using the ford oem setup tools. We have gauge blocks that bolt in place of the ring and pinion and you use the pinion shims to check the pinion depth. So easy.
Rich your da man on these cars. And this car should fly like the wind. With its new rear end. A beautiful job. And precise. Thanks for sharing your expert talent with us. Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
they freshened up the motor too.
Let it FLY indeed.
Have some alignment checks and tweaks to do before lift off then this thing should be ready 😀
My friend, taking that rear cover off, remove the bolts but use the two cap braces to break the silicone sealant, won't drop the cover or leave hammer marks
You guys are great. Can do any repairs. I know Tommy is happy just to crank the old girl. That falcon is one of my favorite no prep street cars. It's got a few dents and dings. But hell at 53 so do I. Nice job yet again by Lucore automotive
Work like that makes me wish I had time and means to bring my car to you from Florida even! So tired of the scam Garages I have taken mine to! Good Video as always!
And fly she does!!!! Not much gets around her!!!! Have a wonderful day and weekend!!!
That she does John, don't mess with what works is the name of the game here. All fresh new and ready to go for 2023! 😀 Thanks for watching and commenting!
Rich I'm OK with that compressor. My dad had his own bodyshop as I was growing up . I was in that shop my whole life. He had three big compressors after a while you tune them out
New gearset, bearings, races, etc and a freshened engine. Prodigy is gonna fly next season.
And Billy's "New and improved" S10
That thing sounds good.
Yes... yes it does 😉 Alignment video just went up too if you are interested in more!
Always hated doing rear ends. To much math 😅. Esp. Pinion, crush sleeve, shims.
Lots of math, and you better have a good spatial reasoning or you are screwed. There's also a BIG difference between setting up a "normal" car and setting one up for all the crazy things these boys are going to do. You've got to be very very particular. Thanks for the view and comment!
👍🏽🇺🇸👍🏽 knowledge is key.. nice job Rich
That's impressive setting up car a season early for this year
Rich working his magic on SRC falcon
I have long ago went away from crush sleeves and went to a solid adjustable pinion and carrier spacers, makes for longer wear on bearings and maintains pattern better on my cars. No more crush sleeve to collapse and eat a gear set when you least need it. You will be surprised how far the pattern will move on the ring gear by adding load ( i use a prybar against the ring gear and upper housing) as i spin the pinion with a ratchet.
1.1k views in 30 mins,if you were wondering if gear heads like your work thats great.
Well it DOES help that it's "The Falcon" too 😉 Not that we're complaining! Great to have each and every pair of eyes!
@20:54 PRO TIP!
Have you ever tried using the solid pinion spacer in place of the crush collar? I've been setting up these 8.8s for 25+ years and always use a solid spacer kit once they became available.
I rarely if ever bother with the crush sleeve.. unless the customer absolutely wants to use one, but I still try to talk them out of using one. To me it's just an unnecessary pain in the ass that should be tossed in the garbage or donated to those that wish to use them.
I like being able to creep up on the pinion preload by using a series of different thickness spacers over having to creep up on that pinion preload with a floor jack handle on a 3 foot breaker bar without going too tight and having to start all over with a fresh crush collar.
Can also pull it apart as many times as needed and never have to worry about over-tightening the pinion nut & wasting a crush collar.
To each his own but it was a game changer for me when the solid spacer kit became available. I started out using the Ratech kit but have since used the Strange kit exclusively on the 8.8s. This of course depends on the gear set being used, the Ratech seems to be the most versatile with the OEM & FRPP gear sets.
I absolutely love using the solid spacer crush collar kit on all 8.8s from mild to wild 🤘🏼😁🤘🏼setups.
Ratech (Ohio based company!)
www.ratechmfg.com/Solid%20Pinion%20Spacers.htm
Strange Engineering (Illinois based company 🤘🏼😁🤘🏼)
www.strangeengineering.net/product/ford-8-8-adjustable-pinion-preload-spacer.html/
Between Tommy's Falcon and Billy's last ride, they seem to have more rear end trouble than most. 😉
i loved the precise measurements and double checking, then breaking a 2lb hammer setting the adjustments. great video, in depth
Thanks, enjoyed the video.
To tell the truth, was watching and listening to you... didn't pay attention to the air compression.... just part of being in the shop. Love the cool tools, sure makes things ezr....
Well glad to hear the compressor didn't drive you TOO nuts, we're hopefully ready to remedy it soon. Especially when we are blasting or vapor honing parts in the shop AND trying to film it gets... annoying. Really appreciate the view and the comment!
I like your awesome content I'm 55 years old and watching videos of different TH-cam videos of other like yourself that are doing real things and when I give them a comment they get to listen to theirs because it's much easier to listen and then read a crappy one that really doesn't make sense and it kind of puts a spin on what it does and feelings-wise mine is on Orthodox but you will feel better because I have a song set list from the same band Lynyrd Skynyrd and I hope you approve of this that I see that you are doing quite well on what you like to do the best so here it goes for the songs first one would be GIVE ME BACK MY BULLETS. And the second one that has a special way on who you are and what you are that would be SIMPLE MAN so I hope you enjoy my comment to your mechanic skills that you have take care brother from another mother peace out
Man, I can smell this whole video! Nice job!
Great video, sat down on my couch and turned the TV on, video had been posted for 1 min and had no views at the time...guess I was 1st!!
We appreciate it David! Never really know with our stuff if it's going to take off like a rocket or sit there floating looking cool. We'll just keep cranking work out and hope a few people notice 😀
Awesome video and commentary! Great job Rich. Thanks for sharing! Bowling Green Kentucky in the house.
Dude I love watching your projects. You turn the mundane into the entertaining! Keep up the good work and watch out for that damm gravity.
You mean to tell me that the battery powered impact crushed that crush collar? C'mon now...🤣
I love that bearing puller. It's like a power steering pulley tool. Just alot bigger.
Happy holidays
Nice job Rich, always enjoy watching the race car and muscle car stuff!!! Merry Christmas to the whole Lucore Auto Family!!
I recently acquired a 95 5.0 mustang and the rear ended was howling. So I went in to check it and found out who ever put the 4:10’s in it didn’t need to be working on cars lol. Over .020” backlash, no preload on the pinion or carrier bearings, so I made some adjustments and found the carrier bearings trashed, went ahead and made the adjustments to see if it would shut up. Nope. Just made the noise change at different speeds. Lucky I had a set of 4:10’s I kept out of a ranger that were in good shape and bought a install kit. Replaced all the bearings and noticed the clutches were loose, took them apart and found carrier shims stacked in the clutch pack that were all chewed up. Car did have a weird squeak to it sometimes, lol. Omg some people shouldn’t be able to even purchase tools. Luckily the clutches were only 45$ through my dealership. Now she’s got a good and quite rearend with working trac lock.
Great Content 👍and Video
Have a Great Day 👍
God Bless 🙏
...thanks for the video - this kind of tech is why I subscribed !...
Very welcome Rollie we appreciate it! We know our kind if thing isn't for everyone but glad to have you here supporting!
Good job rich I love that falcon it really is set up nice that was the same body style falcon that me and a friend did our first engine swap on when I was a kid it was a 6 cylinder...lol
You set it up just fine. If you think it's going to have the tolerances that you set after 80-100 passes, you must be having a momentary lapse.. lol
Hopefully you're not using a crush sleeve on that car! Definitely needs a spacer!
I alway use a solid pinion spacer instead of a crush sleeve, they seem to hold pinion preload much better for me.
We've NEVER had an issue with crush sleeve setups but understand a lot of people prefer not running them. Not saying we are right or wrong just doing them how we've always done them and satisfied with the results 👍
Great job Rich!
Great videos love the work and src wen u work on thier cars to
Thanks
Appreciate the watch and comment George!
Who is your depth tool made by if you don't mind me asking? Great video as well.
Rich, So tell us who's ring and pinion set this is? So we can support that company that marks there parts with the information on them that helps make your job or another mechanics job easier. Because I'd rather buy (Spend the $$) a quality made part that the manufacturer takes the time to mark there parts for easier installation. Thanks, And great video.
I've been around shops all my life and barely even notice the air compressor running on the video.
Tommy's gonna try n break it tomorrow
Hopefully if weather isn't too terrible we can do a couple heat cycles but FIRST it's on the the alignment rack to get things lined out over there!
That rearend probably came outta a V8 explorer. Theres alot of people using them because of the disc brakes already being in place.
Yes indeed
Tommy should have put new tires on the car while you had the rear dropped. 🤣🤣 Oh well, he'll probably have to lay on the floor now to get it done.
im a big fan of that bearing puller but you should get some race drivers makes life easier .
Yep 👍👍
Food for thought, why don't you put something to catch the shims when you knock them out of the carrier so you don't have to bend over to pick them up off the floor.
You don't use a solid crush sleeve? Just wondering, I've always used the regular crush sleeve but thought about going to the solid one next time.
No Sir just a regular Ole crush sleeve, and it was just fine after hundreds of crazy Billy and Tommy passes. Everyone has their opinions though 😀
Great video, but if I had a car for a ring and pinion exchange tie up my rack for more than a day, I'd be losing money. It only pays like 6 hours max.
As most tech work on commission.
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Oh nooooo!!! Not the hammer 😳🤣🤣
I really liked that hammer.
@@richardlucore6813 flag at half staff my brother 🤪
What brand of Ring and Pinion are you installing Rich?
This one is actually a Jegs brand one believe it or not. Exactly the same set that was in it for the entire 2022 season since "the explosion"
Is there a video showing how that vapor thing works???
We did one months and months ago, can do a new one if folks are interested. It's not really a "service" we offer but a value added piece of the shop for sure
HOPEFULLY YOU READ THE EXPERT COMMENT S ON THE CRUSH SLEAVE VERSES SOLID SPACER AND CHANGE IT OUT.
We will certainly read them and appreciate the comments, then promptly leave this car exactly the way it is so it can go out winning for another season 😀
Should just put a 9 in rear so much better, easier to work on too .
Definitely a whole lot easier to work on and service and not sure a 9" isn't in the future for this car at some point but it's hard to deny that this car in it's current state and setup is incredibly fast and successful. Don't change what's working kind of thing 😀
Wrong answer, needs back brace and size to fit for better tire fitment too . Tommy is just a driver and camera man , besides you can't fix at the races .
@@williamrose8944 well you're certainly entitled to your opinion 😉
First nice falcon
I've set up a lot of rear end gears. My rear end whines when it is not pulling or not holding back. That little spot in between. Do you have any thoughts on that. I don't see anything wrong.
Why do you use a crush sleeve over a solid shim set up?
The bolt in axles.... Is that a c-clip eliminator kit or has the housing been modified?
Q.i have shims behind the race when setting pinion up is that the .030 you are talking about
Now tell Tommy that it needs 1000 miles breakin before racing it. Good luck.
👍👍😎💪💯,, good job.....
At as many passes with the amount of torque on the rear end would it have been a good idea to change the axles also?
it has solid Strange axles in it already, they will be fine..... They could benefit from drilled axles but I wouldn't do that until they choose their final rear axle choice. Gun-drilling removes approximately one pound per foot, Five lightening holes remove .4 lbs per axle.
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Where did you get the tool to pull the bearings
I watch a guy beside me put in the inner pinion race in backwards one day
What brand of gear set do you recommend for a 1500 Ram truck ZF style for durability and low noise?
Nice. What rear gear ratio?
What would happen if you set it4 or 5 thow and let it wear in sorry for the dumb question
Because as it warms up it changes the clearances and you don't want it to go to .0 lash you risk going to tight and it will take the crome off the gear set and lead to failure
What’s that inch pound gauge you put on the pinion nut? angle torque wrench or normal inch pound?
Torque wrench..foot pounds or inch pounds.
With how long it takes to do this properly how do you make any money lol ...
Seemingly not as flamboyant about the gear size this time I'd say lower gear , what say you? , anybody? ?
Exact same gear size and brand that was in it before. Just simply a refresh before the new season. With a couple hundred passes on this setup it was the smart play.
I can smell this video. I love working on rearends. Don't get that crap on your clothes. If you do BURN them.
When the diff cover popped.... I could smell it as if it were right in front of me.... never enjoyed the smell of that stuff 🤢
What gear in car
come on no lucore burnout? lol
Lol nope we prefer NOT to do a burnout immediately after a new gear set install.. unlike a certain unnamed someone 😉