I still remember how, playing this game as a kid on the PS2, I was convinced graphical fidelity literally could not get better than this. It was as close to photorealism as I could recognise. Now, of course, I see the flat textures and the patchy grass... but this game still has a magic to it, and I'm happy to get the chance to revisit.
to be honest, the game also looked closer to reality back then because both the game and Television were at like 360p, which made real life look worse and hid the flaws of the game. Now that everything is HD or in 4k (including the footage from this video since this is emu), it is harder to be photo-realistic
It was photo realistic for the time. What I mean by that, is that most photos you would see the public use aand tv stations were not HD or where taken on throwaway cameras etc so at the time it actualy was photorealitc. Not even your memories are in hd. If you want to see how weird it is, there's a video on here from 1994 new york in full HD, just search for that It's a little strange because of the aforementioned lack of most memories in hd.
@@johnnybravo9096 Weirdest chance for me is that groving up in PAL region, everything was pretty much 25 fps or 50 Hz.. Now that they show movies sometimes in 30 fps / 60 Hz the movement of the actors etc. look unnatural.
Fantastic storytelling on this one, great balance of drama and analysis. That Grand Valley race at GTWC was a roller coaster of emotions. Congrats on the playthrough, and thanks so much for the shout-out. Always happy to be of assistance; tuning makes these challenges much more enjoyable for sure once you learn the basics.
hi, just wanna say, that Sunday cup autumn ring mini is a lot more difficult than anything in the Sunday cup. GT4 has a problem with one race in the cups being astronomically more harder than the rest
Yeah I did find this to be pretty true. Not sure if it was just one race per cup, but it felt like 2 or even 3 of them (depending if it was a 3 or 5 race series) were much tougher. I think the AI just drives better on some tracks rather than others.
@@Papamanual yeah I've been playing gt4 since I was like 4 years old (I was born the year it came out) and I've always got frustrated at this. The worst one personally is definitely el capitan in the 60s classic cup
This is usually because it is a short circuit with not a lot of laps. Also, the rolling start places you at a larger disadvantage than a standing start. Other examples of this include special stage route 5, tsukuba and opera paris
44:52 The JGTC , currently known as SuperGT, does not require cars to be Japanese and indeed in its first seasons in the 90s it had all sorts of weird cars, mostly GT1 cars from Le Mans, but even a Group C Porsche 962! I guess that's the feeling they were trying to replicate by having the car choice open. I'm enjoying the video a lot, great work!
Gran Turismo 4 challenge runs were the last thing I expected to turn up in my recommended feed. I remember playing this game as a kid, not really understanding any of it, and making my dad mad by selling one of his black supercars so I could by some van in every color it came in. Great stuff
im happy you acknowledge the ram, that thing is so annoying in arcade mode like whenever i want to drive a ~50 horsepower car, IT appears. i actually did beat it though using a toyota sports 800, i made a video on it
I remember there were at least two races (Midget and Subaru 360 events) where 200 points simply wasn't possible because the opponents were just too slow 😄
Mannnn, I love how you present videos like these. I felt even more compelled to watch than normal. Felt like every race was just as exciting as the last. I felt the frustration and relief of every race's conclusion. Those hours of resets don't make things easy at all.
I was nearly yelling at my screen every time TCS and ASM completely destroyed your momentum. I was SO HAPPY when you revealed TeaKanji started helping you with setups. Definitely a must for GT4, especially with a challenge this difficult. Awesome video, I can only imagine how many hours it took to make.
You would be WAY faster without ASM. ASM tanks your pace like crazy. Turning off ASM would not affect points. I've beat the game (with the exception of the GT World Cup and supercar festival) with just kei cars, and the amount of grip you get from insane slip angles carried that run. El Capitan 200 was definitely the hardest, as I had to defend against the zonda for 71 laps with a Suzuki Cappuccino. Edit: I believe I used the ginetta G4 for the classic stuff, as it meets modern kei car specs, it's definitely a cop out.
ASM is needed for any car faster than a Miata tho bc once those wheels start spinning, the sudden grip can make you easily lose control. I had this issue with prototypes at low speed and high power road cars.
@@toddthezondalover645skill issue forsure. i just finished the infineon endurance using a 900hp nissan LMP with no TCS or ASM. I dont use ASM on any car and I use no TCS with the exception of a few hard-to-drive cars
@@itsDrx I've always used buttons since I was a kid. This is the only game I have this issue with. GT3 and even Enthusia have better slide physics. It's just fact.
You will never know how much this video and your voice have helped my anxiety over the last few days while moving. Thank you for everything that you do. 💚
Doesn't matter the game or the challenge, I always find myself hooked on these videos. And I don't even play simulated racing games. Amazing work as always!
great storytelling, i havent ever played this game or much of any racing game and im still vey invested in your challenge!!!! Congratulations on the WIN
Its very easy to trigger 200 points in the Boxer Spirit actually, sounds like you never saw DoVe_7's Toyota-only playthrough where he literally used a maxed out Sports 800 to win the Boxer Spirit lol. There are a very few cars outside Subaru and Ruf that also uses a Boxer engine (think its mainly the Sports 800 and even a just-as-slow VW), just need to keep restarting till you only get Subarus as opponents and even then you gotta get good with NoS usage and driving skill. Very good video nevertheless, first time I seen someone attempt this GT4 challenge in particular.
@@Papamanual The VW Beetle 1100 and Karmann Ghia also have Boxer engines apparently. I have the Piggyback guide book and from what I seen they are the only 3 cars outside Subaru and Ruf to have them also, weird I know
@@user-ox8gm7jm8q The Citroen 2CV in this game also has a boxer engine, but like the VW Beetle 1100 and the Karmann Ghia, good luck winning with that. The Toyota Sports 800 is the most viable out of the non-Subarus and non-RUFs for Boxer spirit since it iirc can get the highest power stat out of all 4 of those picks, and can get a wing for downforce (and still face off with 200 points).
That was sick! You did a really great job, was really interesting to see if this challenge is possible. Although I'm pretty NOT sure I'm gonna ever try to repeat this challenge by myself 😅
I don't think I've ever cared about racing games since Lotus Espirit Turbo Challenge 2, in 1991. But I came to your vid while watching game challenges, and I have to say your running commentary during each race had me hooked. Great job, on what looked like one heck of a challenge!
I watched this video thinking it was from a small, unknown channel, enjoying the video thoroughly, and subsequently subscribing. I then go into your videos and find Ive already watched most of your videos! I had no idea
Can I just say, your taste in video game music is sublime - was really vibing along to that Tekken 5 battle track, and the GTA V banger whilst you were racing the 787B!
Even though I'm unfamiliar with this series, and I doubt this video will perform that well for the upcoming weeks, I still appreciate the time and effort put into new types of content. Even if it's not Punch Out, I'll try to stay in touch with the content.
Hey Pap, of all the GT4 challenge videos that became popular on TH-cam (and inspired me to get back into GT4), your 200 point challenge is my favorite by a wide margin, and I really hope you make more GT4 content. I wanted to do my own challenge (which I posted on Reddit and TheGamingDefinition's Discord) where I finished each event with the cheapest car possible (buy price+upgrades, no prize cars-which makes this a de-facto no upgrade challenge for the easier events). To cap it off, I wanted to do the GTWC with a standard production car, without leaning on easy competition like the Gillet, CLK GTR, etc.. but it wasn't viable, so I used the Motul Pitworks Z with a stage 4 turbo, which worked perfectly and was an excellent alternative (and not that difficult to get) beating a moderate lobby with none of the easy opponents. Honestly stunning how good it was with 940 hp, didn't even adjust the suspension settings. Also tried to use the Zonda LM in a similar event in the extreme hall, but it had horrible tire wear and I got cocky trying to beat an R92 and R89. Questions about your run- is the BMW 120D just that good? For FR I used the stock Skyline GTS-T and the competition was pretty stiff. Is the Callaway rated very poorly for points, because I never got a sub-100 point race trying out the 96 Corvette, Camaros, etc.. for Supercar- ended up using the Mustang SVT Cobra, which was excellent. The Compact cup seems very difficult with the 50 hp Nissan, I failed with the Honda City Turbo but crushed them with the 1990 SiR.
Thanks man, I'm glad I was your inspiration to get back into GT4. I dont have any particular GT4 content in mind, so i probably wont make anything anytime soon. Nothing has really piqued my interest to play the game again. I didnt do all that much research into what cars were "best" for 200 points early in the run. I thought this run would force me to use cars that I never would have as a kid (and it did) - my races were like 1-10 points back then lol. So I cant really answer your questions about whether the BMW 120d or the Callaway C12 or any of the other cars were the best choices for this particular challenge - more that it gave me an opportunity to make the game more difficult for myself. From memory, I think the Legacy B4 Blitzen, the elise 111R and the car I used for the world classic car (I think it was the Honda s800 or s600) came from suggestions in an old GT4 forum. Aside from that, I usually picked cars just that I felt like could take on the challenge, using WildCobraZ28's guide a little to make sure I wouldnt buy a car that was too good and waste money.
Impressive run and entertaining watch! Just want to say I've ended up tying a championship before and didn't end up getting the 1st place reward, although you also could've avoided this scenario by letting your B-spec driver finish the race at Suzuka and earn 1 point for coming last
This might be the best Gran Turismo challenge run that I've seen! The challenge can be applied to 100% of the game, allows every mechanic and characteristic of it, and has its difficulty intrinsic in it since this was never one intended way to complete the game nor is an objective at any point to complete a race with max points due to its difficulty, yet existing the point system as an instrument that can be used to challenge yourself other than indicating the difficulty of a race. All of this while ensuring fun because doesn't deviate much from the intended way to play encouraging you to keep high-level performance and find some loops around complications but not relying too much on those, nor having that many fun/difficulty breaking ones, and it's a natural (semi-intended) way to increase the difficulty. For the execution, different approaches are shown, banning those considered overpowered, in-depth exploration of mechanics, usage of a huge variety of features, playing the pre-run part instead of loading a savefile (licenses and missions), etc... One thing I miss is focus on two things, the Cr. management and the unlockables bits. Money might've not been a problem at any time but isn't mentioned either when pretty much it's a thing in almost every challenge run in a game that has currency, especially when you mentioned the RAM was maxed out and a lot of spare parts for the Elise were bought, and about the unlockables, would be nice if you mentioned where you unlocked the cars you used, or if one particular unlock would be used later or whatever, also missions are not available from the very start but this is being finicky (adding all footage things I suggested here and bellow wouldn't add much to the length of the video, even though I assume that's not a problem, and some of them don't require much effort but IMO improve the quality or make the video more comprehensive for someone who doesn't know much about the subject or played the game back in the days as kids). And being picky I also miss some little more expansion or brief highlights of the pre-run; a timmer and a view of the inputs could've been added since there is a lot of unused space in the overlay; and a brief introduction, especially of the instruments used or available, for example, if it was done in an original PS2 or emulator and why you chose so, the controller used, if original Dualshock 2, Xbox controller or wheel with pedals or whatever and advantages or disadvantages of those (but also at some point a mention or a brief explanation of the racing lines or generals about racing, for example, may be hard for some people to understand or figure out what's going on with the tinny mistakes you talk about that are so relevant when you change to street tires, I hope I explained myself ^^); also HD textures or better quality of the game itself would be nice if possible (I assume it was played in original hardware and not in an emulator). So thank you for the video! I'd love to see more of this challenge, maybe following the series towards 100% completion with separate videos for Special Events, Endurance races, all Manufacturer events, or whatever.
Wow! Thanks for the big (and positive comment). So yeah, to address some of your queries, credits management wasnt a thing I put a lot of thought into when starting... However, the reason i did the driving missions was to to have extra cars to sell for more cash. Most cars I managed to get to work first time, but I did waste a decent amount of cash... Nevertheless, I believe it might actually possible (with a proper route) to do this challenge without having to grind for more money (aside from driving mission car sales)... I did twice grind for more money (buying the Chapparal 2J and then again to by the Mazda 787B and Nissan R390)... Another thing i had to grind for was getting to the correct day to buy the black LMP cars, but again with a proper route, you could probably do this easily before day 700 and less day grinding would be possible (also could potentially win with a different car that isnt a Black LMP) Basically all the cars I bought from used showrooms or the dealerships... I explained in my vid where necessary if I won a car that I ended up using (like the Nissan Motul Pitwork Z) Yes adding driving missions into the video would just make it more bloated imo... general audiences want to get straight to the point (see Mr Beast vids) I used emulator with basically stock settings since I dont own an NTSC ps2 and my PAL PS2 is broken. I dont know how to upgrade textures to HD or anything like that. And 100% completion with only 200 point races is impossible for a few of the 1-make events.
Never knew that black 787B could make 200PTS and considerably its more doable to win than trying to win with new R390 GT1 equiped with hard tires which only gives about 190+PTS. ( Correct me if Im mistaken ) but 10x more difficult. Your next challenge will be : Can you win the dreaded 206 one-make-race with 200PTS. PS : Great driving. Keep this vid series going.
The N1, N2 and N3 tires? Try them all on your favorite cars, on a time trial on your favorite tracks. Those tires are like realistic sim tires. They taught me so much.
you resemble ted kacynzki more and more with each re-try or hour and a half of re-entering races, you have determination like no other. please consider more self-torture for entertainment's sake, this is a great video and i long for more
I love tuning with Normal tires for below 300ish HP. They handle more like real life tires. Understeer needs to be compensated for by suspension tuning and driving style. Harder tires on the rear may help or hurt depending on your cars weight distribution and drivetrain
Really good video. I'm the opposite to yourself. Now I'm old I don't feel like I have the time to mess about struggling to beat the difficult races, I'm always on the lookout for short cuts, and since the Artificial Idiots are always going to ram me, they're getting it back before they do.
Is it bad that I had anxiety over this playthough because I kept seeing the oil light on all the cars you had? This is a fun challenge and is making me want to play GT4 again.
Just a tip, reducing the rear ride height (if you can) can regain any grip loss you may have from other setup changes. As a matter of fact, this effect is so exaggerated in GT4, I'd be careful not to overdo it and induce understeer.
Hi, nice video, and quite funny to see, how you tortured yoursefl :D But I need to ask, I saw you played it on PCSX, what is your setup please, what gamepad you use, and did you had an error, where while turning, controls just stucks on turning and acceleration and no other buttons, even start, works (you need to reconnnect gamepad, everywhere else no stucks), and if, how did you solved it please? My pc is 5600x, 16gb ram, rx 6700 xt, xbox elite 1 and stock xbox one gamepad (non X, S, or series X, S). Thanks a lot! And good job here :)
Me: Ooh, I'm interested to see how noted Punch-out badass Pap does in a game that has nothing to do with boxing Pap: Okay, so next up is Boxer Spirit Me: Waitwut So is a Boxer engine just Mike Tyson throwing uppercuts at the ground from the back seat?
@@Papamanual Ah if you use an emulator like pcsx2 you can change rendering resolution in the graphics settings to render models at higher quality and there are other options to smooth textures. It all looks sort of weird to me but it makes the game look newer
The Subaru B4 had the oil lamp turned on, was that an active choice to nudge the points in your direction or did you just forget to change the oil since it was a used car? Anyway great video, loved the analytical way of presenting!
Not changing the oil was always a strategy because it would be an irreversible upgrade that changes the A-Spec value of my car (technically the oil can go bad again but it'll take along time to grind the miles)
Well, this is tough. But let me say one thing: the hardest challenge in GT4 is obtain gold in all licenses. If you can do this, You can win almost races with use Mazda 787B easily. You just have to drive clean, make no mistakes. But the margin of error to take gold in licenses is minor. Misson 34 is harder than anything else too. I recomend play this game with a good steering wheel.
11:30 It just occurred to me that the Toyota Sports 800 is a boxer car, and I've seen somebody win boxer spirit in it in a Toyota only challenge. It was 200 point as well IIRC.
@@Papamanual 2CV Type A Citroen 1954, Beetle 1100 Standard (Type-11) Volkswagen 1949, Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) Volkswagen 1968 and Sports 800 Toyota 1965 are also Boxer engine cars in GT4.
Are you playing on PCSX2? If you turn clamping mode to full it won't say full throttle or get ready at the bottom during the race. Also, in the game's screen settings, setting to 480 Progressive (I think it's called that? whichever is the one between 480p and 1080p) will make the video much clearer
Somehow, Pap-atine has returned
.... abilities.... unnatural...
I still remember how, playing this game as a kid on the PS2, I was convinced graphical fidelity literally could not get better than this. It was as close to photorealism as I could recognise. Now, of course, I see the flat textures and the patchy grass... but this game still has a magic to it, and I'm happy to get the chance to revisit.
I had the same feeling with Burnout Revenge
to be honest, the game also looked closer to reality back then because both the game and Television were at like 360p, which made real life look worse and hid the flaws of the game. Now that everything is HD or in 4k (including the footage from this video since this is emu), it is harder to be photo-realistic
It was photo realistic for the time. What I mean by that, is that most photos you would see the public use aand tv stations were not HD or where taken on throwaway cameras etc so at the time it actualy was photorealitc.
Not even your memories are in hd. If you want to see how weird it is, there's a video on here from 1994 new york in full HD, just search for that It's a little strange because of the aforementioned lack of most memories in hd.
@@Cousinouf Console kids :P I was running 640x480 in 1987 on a VGA 386DX. 1280x1024 by the early 90's.
@@johnnybravo9096 Weirdest chance for me is that groving up in PAL region, everything was pretty much 25 fps or 50 Hz.. Now that they show movies sometimes in 30 fps / 60 Hz the movement of the actors etc. look unnatural.
Fantastic storytelling on this one, great balance of drama and analysis. That Grand Valley race at GTWC was a roller coaster of emotions. Congrats on the playthrough, and thanks so much for the shout-out. Always happy to be of assistance; tuning makes these challenges much more enjoyable for sure once you learn the basics.
No worries, probably wouldnt have completed it without your help!
hi, just wanna say, that Sunday cup autumn ring mini is a lot more difficult than anything in the Sunday cup. GT4 has a problem with one race in the cups being astronomically more harder than the rest
Yeah I did find this to be pretty true. Not sure if it was just one race per cup, but it felt like 2 or even 3 of them (depending if it was a 3 or 5 race series) were much tougher. I think the AI just drives better on some tracks rather than others.
@@Papamanual yeah I've been playing gt4 since I was like 4 years old (I was born the year it came out) and I've always got frustrated at this. The worst one personally is definitely el capitan in the 60s classic cup
This is usually because it is a short circuit with not a lot of laps. Also, the rolling start places you at a larger disadvantage than a standing start. Other examples of this include special stage route 5, tsukuba and opera paris
@@Papamanualme and Setsuna Yuki ever won 100+ races on Gran Turismo 4 on maxed out A Spec Points!
Tuning Car Grand Prix at Apricot Hill Reverse is a nightmare
44:52 The JGTC , currently known as SuperGT, does not require cars to be Japanese and indeed in its first seasons in the 90s it had all sorts of weird cars, mostly GT1 cars from Le Mans, but even a Group C Porsche 962! I guess that's the feeling they were trying to replicate by having the car choice open.
I'm enjoying the video a lot, great work!
Ah, so backing lore means Polyphony probably did that intentionally
You sir have my respect for doing such a difficult challenge in this game, great video 👍
Huge respect for taking this challenge. I couldnt stop screaming "change the oil" through the screen
oil change boosts my cars point value, so i intentionally didnt do it lol
If someone offers you NOS on a street corner, know they are not doing you any good. Just say NO
Not true. Nitrous is fun. Make sure you're sitting when you hit it tho
Gran Turismo 4 challenge runs were the last thing I expected to turn up in my recommended feed. I remember playing this game as a kid, not really understanding any of it, and making my dad mad by selling one of his black supercars so I could by some van in every color it came in. Great stuff
Your DAD? OMG I'm old.
im happy you acknowledge the ram, that thing is so annoying in arcade mode
like whenever i want to drive a ~50 horsepower car, IT appears. i actually did beat it though using a toyota sports 800, i made a video on it
I remember there were at least two races (Midget and Subaru 360 events) where 200 points simply wasn't possible because the opponents were just too slow 😄
Mannnn, I love how you present videos like these. I felt even more compelled to watch than normal. Felt like every race was just as exciting as the last. I felt the frustration and relief of every race's conclusion. Those hours of resets don't make things easy at all.
I was nearly yelling at my screen every time TCS and ASM completely destroyed your momentum. I was SO HAPPY when you revealed TeaKanji started helping you with setups. Definitely a must for GT4, especially with a challenge this difficult. Awesome video, I can only imagine how many hours it took to make.
You would be WAY faster without ASM. ASM tanks your pace like crazy. Turning off ASM would not affect points. I've beat the game (with the exception of the GT World Cup and supercar festival) with just kei cars, and the amount of grip you get from insane slip angles carried that run.
El Capitan 200 was definitely the hardest, as I had to defend against the zonda for 71 laps with a Suzuki Cappuccino.
Edit: I believe I used the ginetta G4 for the classic stuff, as it meets modern kei car specs, it's definitely a cop out.
ASM is needed for any car faster than a Miata tho bc once those wheels start spinning, the sudden grip can make you easily lose control. I had this issue with prototypes at low speed and high power road cars.
@@toddthezondalover645 lol
@@toddthezondalover645skill issue forsure. i just finished the infineon endurance using a 900hp nissan LMP with no TCS or ASM. I dont use ASM on any car and I use no TCS with the exception of a few hard-to-drive cars
@@itsDrx I've always used buttons since I was a kid. This is the only game I have this issue with. GT3 and even Enthusia have better slide physics. It's just fact.
Poopy take tbh. GT4 handles loss of traction more accurately than GT3. The issue is your throttle control, or lack thereof
I actually really enjoyed this! I hope you do more challenges on racing games like this, this was really fun to watch!
I would've never expected a GT4 video here, but I'm always glad to see more of this game!
It is crazy how good this game is
I like how Driver 1's music plays in the background :D ❤
You will never know how much this video and your voice have helped my anxiety over the last few days while moving. Thank you for everything that you do. 💚
Doesn't matter the game or the challenge, I always find myself hooked on these videos. And I don't even play simulated racing games. Amazing work as always!
Gran Turismo is one of the best sim racing games :3
toyota has 1 car which can enter boxer spirit. which is the Toyota Sports 800.
great storytelling, i havent ever played this game or much of any racing game and im still vey invested in your challenge!!!! Congratulations on the WIN
Its very easy to trigger 200 points in the Boxer Spirit actually, sounds like you never saw DoVe_7's Toyota-only playthrough where he literally used a maxed out Sports 800 to win the Boxer Spirit lol. There are a very few cars outside Subaru and Ruf that also uses a Boxer engine (think its mainly the Sports 800 and even a just-as-slow VW), just need to keep restarting till you only get Subarus as opponents and even then you gotta get good with NoS usage and driving skill.
Very good video nevertheless, first time I seen someone attempt this GT4 challenge in particular.
I havent seen his toyota only playthrough, but ill defs check it out. Didnt know toyota made a car with a boxer engine.
@@Papamanual The VW Beetle 1100 and Karmann Ghia also have Boxer engines apparently. I have the Piggyback guide book and from what I seen they are the only 3 cars outside Subaru and Ruf to have them also, weird I know
@@user-ox8gm7jm8q The Citroen 2CV in this game also has a boxer engine, but like the VW Beetle 1100 and the Karmann Ghia, good luck winning with that. The Toyota Sports 800 is the most viable out of the non-Subarus and non-RUFs for Boxer spirit since it iirc can get the highest power stat out of all 4 of those picks, and can get a wing for downforce (and still face off with 200 points).
Well crafted/researched video, I always wondered if something like this would be possible!
Just discovered your channel an i love it. Everything just works really well.
Keep it up
That was sick!
You did a really great job, was really interesting to see if this challenge is possible. Although I'm pretty NOT sure I'm gonna ever try to repeat this challenge by myself 😅
Thanks!
Pap: Starts playing San Francisco at Night at 2:20
Me: Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
Probably one of the hardest and interesting challenges I`ve seen for gt4. Really Well Done!
love rewatching this video
great job man
What a grind.
GG. Absolute legend!
Great video.That 6th place twice to 1st was incredible!
Dude, you deserve waaaaaaaay more subscribers, your storytelling is on point, and i freaking loved that you didn't chated to make things easier 🎉
Bravo! What a watch this was. Your commentary, your playstyle, the fact you didn't cheese as much... Love that
Probably my favourite racing game playthrough ever.. you have a new sub 😁 and you've encouraged me to dig out the PS2 and fire up GT4 again too
I don't think I've ever cared about racing games since Lotus Espirit Turbo Challenge 2, in 1991. But I came to your vid while watching game challenges, and I have to say your running commentary during each race had me hooked. Great job, on what looked like one heck of a challenge!
I watched this video thinking it was from a small, unknown channel, enjoying the video thoroughly, and subsequently subscribing. I then go into your videos and find Ive already watched most of your videos! I had no idea
Great idea and great video mate 👍
I still can't believe I enjoyed a video this long from start to finish. Talk about immersive storytelling!
Love how this channel randomly appeared in my recommended been lying here binge watching this is my favorite video so far
Can I just say, your taste in video game music is sublime - was really vibing along to that Tekken 5 battle track, and the GTA V banger whilst you were racing the 787B!
I wanted to say the same thing! The Driver and Plok music really caught me off-guard the moment I heard them, hahah
The trend of small youtubers making really cool gran turismo 4 runs is one of the best things to happen to my feed ever!
For playing one of the best racing games ever made, this video is a welcome treat for me. *Also boxer engine jumpscare lol*
It drives me insane that you can't 200 a-spec 100% the game because it is literally impossible in some races without mods
I was thinking of doing 100% but im glad I didnt, both because its not possible and because it wouldve taken me forrrrrrrrrrrrever lol.
Or you're kid named Speedster Championship (I think that's what it's called) where your opel speedster is still 200 pts with a maxed out speedster
Even though I'm unfamiliar with this series, and I doubt this video will perform that well for the upcoming weeks, I still appreciate the time and effort put into new types of content.
Even if it's not Punch Out, I'll try to stay in touch with the content.
Absolute mad man GT4 challenge, insane. Good content and story narration
The NFS Carbon(?) music works soooo well!
Good video! :D
awesome cut and pace of your video mate, interesting thruout
I know nothing about this game but this was very entertaining, well done!
Hey Pap, of all the GT4 challenge videos that became popular on TH-cam (and inspired me to get back into GT4), your 200 point challenge is my favorite by a wide margin, and I really hope you make more GT4 content. I wanted to do my own challenge (which I posted on Reddit and TheGamingDefinition's Discord) where I finished each event with the cheapest car possible (buy price+upgrades, no prize cars-which makes this a de-facto no upgrade challenge for the easier events). To cap it off, I wanted to do the GTWC with a standard production car, without leaning on easy competition like the Gillet, CLK GTR, etc.. but it wasn't viable, so I used the Motul Pitworks Z with a stage 4 turbo, which worked perfectly and was an excellent alternative (and not that difficult to get) beating a moderate lobby with none of the easy opponents. Honestly stunning how good it was with 940 hp, didn't even adjust the suspension settings. Also tried to use the Zonda LM in a similar event in the extreme hall, but it had horrible tire wear and I got cocky trying to beat an R92 and R89.
Questions about your run- is the BMW 120D just that good? For FR I used the stock Skyline GTS-T and the competition was pretty stiff. Is the Callaway rated very poorly for points, because I never got a sub-100 point race trying out the 96 Corvette, Camaros, etc.. for Supercar- ended up using the Mustang SVT Cobra, which was excellent. The Compact cup seems very difficult with the 50 hp Nissan, I failed with the Honda City Turbo but crushed them with the 1990 SiR.
Thanks man, I'm glad I was your inspiration to get back into GT4. I dont have any particular GT4 content in mind, so i probably wont make anything anytime soon. Nothing has really piqued my interest to play the game again.
I didnt do all that much research into what cars were "best" for 200 points early in the run. I thought this run would force me to use cars that I never would have as a kid (and it did) - my races were like 1-10 points back then lol.
So I cant really answer your questions about whether the BMW 120d or the Callaway C12 or any of the other cars were the best choices for this particular challenge - more that it gave me an opportunity to make the game more difficult for myself.
From memory, I think the Legacy B4 Blitzen, the elise 111R and the car I used for the world classic car (I think it was the Honda s800 or s600) came from suggestions in an old GT4 forum. Aside from that, I usually picked cars just that I felt like could take on the challenge, using WildCobraZ28's guide a little to make sure I wouldnt buy a car that was too good and waste money.
This video was awesome, you gotta do a sequel with the extreme tracks!
Watched this 3 days in a row, FUCKING BRILLIANT VIDEO. Timeless masterpiece
this is peak gaming and the soundtrack choices are fuckin inspired, thanks for reminding me of the absolute glory that is the driver ost
Amazing vid!
Impressive run and entertaining watch! Just want to say I've ended up tying a championship before and didn't end up getting the 1st place reward, although you also could've avoided this scenario by letting your B-spec driver finish the race at Suzuka and earn 1 point for coming last
Thanks!
True, I couldve let B-spec Bob get me the 1 point, but in the moment I just foreited cause I wanted to do it all A-spec
Now this is a great idea for a challenge run.
I thoroughly enjoyed this, what a feat!
This might be the best Gran Turismo challenge run that I've seen!
The challenge can be applied to 100% of the game, allows every mechanic and characteristic of it, and has its difficulty intrinsic in it since this was never one intended way to complete the game nor is an objective at any point to complete a race with max points due to its difficulty, yet existing the point system as an instrument that can be used to challenge yourself other than indicating the difficulty of a race.
All of this while ensuring fun because doesn't deviate much from the intended way to play encouraging you to keep high-level performance and find some loops around complications but not relying too much on those, nor having that many fun/difficulty breaking ones, and it's a natural (semi-intended) way to increase the difficulty.
For the execution, different approaches are shown, banning those considered overpowered, in-depth exploration of mechanics, usage of a huge variety of features, playing the pre-run part instead of loading a savefile (licenses and missions), etc...
One thing I miss is focus on two things, the Cr. management and the unlockables bits. Money might've not been a problem at any time but isn't mentioned either when pretty much it's a thing in almost every challenge run in a game that has currency, especially when you mentioned the RAM was maxed out and a lot of spare parts for the Elise were bought, and about the unlockables, would be nice if you mentioned where you unlocked the cars you used, or if one particular unlock would be used later or whatever, also missions are not available from the very start but this is being finicky (adding all footage things I suggested here and bellow wouldn't add much to the length of the video, even though I assume that's not a problem, and some of them don't require much effort but IMO improve the quality or make the video more comprehensive for someone who doesn't know much about the subject or played the game back in the days as kids).
And being picky I also miss some little more expansion or brief highlights of the pre-run; a timmer and a view of the inputs could've been added since there is a lot of unused space in the overlay; and a brief introduction, especially of the instruments used or available, for example, if it was done in an original PS2 or emulator and why you chose so, the controller used, if original Dualshock 2, Xbox controller or wheel with pedals or whatever and advantages or disadvantages of those (but also at some point a mention or a brief explanation of the racing lines or generals about racing, for example, may be hard for some people to understand or figure out what's going on with the tinny mistakes you talk about that are so relevant when you change to street tires, I hope I explained myself ^^); also HD textures or better quality of the game itself would be nice if possible (I assume it was played in original hardware and not in an emulator).
So thank you for the video! I'd love to see more of this challenge, maybe following the series towards 100% completion with separate videos for Special Events, Endurance races, all Manufacturer events, or whatever.
Wow! Thanks for the big (and positive comment).
So yeah, to address some of your queries, credits management wasnt a thing I put a lot of thought into when starting... However, the reason i did the driving missions was to to have extra cars to sell for more cash.
Most cars I managed to get to work first time, but I did waste a decent amount of cash... Nevertheless, I believe it might actually possible (with a proper route) to do this challenge without having to grind for more money (aside from driving mission car sales)... I did twice grind for more money (buying the Chapparal 2J and then again to by the Mazda 787B and Nissan R390)... Another thing i had to grind for was getting to the correct day to buy the black LMP cars, but again with a proper route, you could probably do this easily before day 700 and less day grinding would be possible (also could potentially win with a different car that isnt a Black LMP)
Basically all the cars I bought from used showrooms or the dealerships... I explained in my vid where necessary if I won a car that I ended up using (like the Nissan Motul Pitwork Z)
Yes adding driving missions into the video would just make it more bloated imo... general audiences want to get straight to the point (see Mr Beast vids)
I used emulator with basically stock settings since I dont own an NTSC ps2 and my PAL PS2 is broken.
I dont know how to upgrade textures to HD or anything like that.
And 100% completion with only 200 point races is impossible for a few of the 1-make events.
Never knew that black 787B could make 200PTS and considerably its more doable to win than trying to win with new R390 GT1 equiped with hard tires which only gives about 190+PTS. ( Correct me if Im mistaken ) but 10x more difficult.
Your next challenge will be : Can you win the dreaded 206 one-make-race with 200PTS.
PS : Great driving. Keep this vid series going.
Great job, bud. This one was on the painful side, I'm so glad you managed to pull it off
No pain, no gain
Turns up to a Sunday Cup with NOS. Lmao
Dom Toretto would do it
Watching you drive makes me feel better about myself.
Loving all the GTubers lately
This is the most based challenge run I've ever seen, bravo
insane video 👏
The N1, N2 and N3 tires? Try them all on your favorite cars, on a time trial on your favorite tracks. Those tires are like realistic sim tires. They taught me so much.
Good video, watched it all
He’s done it!
you resemble ted kacynzki more and more with each re-try or hour and a half of re-entering races, you have determination like no other. please consider more self-torture for entertainment's sake, this is a great video and i long for more
I love tuning with Normal tires for below 300ish HP. They handle more like real life tires. Understeer needs to be compensated for by suspension tuning and driving style. Harder tires on the rear may help or hurt depending on your cars weight distribution and drivetrain
That race at Grand Valley was cinema stuff. Brilliant
Really good video. I'm the opposite to yourself. Now I'm old I don't feel like I have the time to mess about struggling to beat the difficult races, I'm always on the lookout for short cuts, and since the Artificial Idiots are always going to ram me, they're getting it back before they do.
Well I've never played Gran Turismo and I don't really know anything about cars but I watched this whole video and immensely enjoyed it.
Is it bad that I had anxiety over this playthough because I kept seeing the oil light on all the cars you had?
This is a fun challenge and is making me want to play GT4 again.
MAD respect for the Monopoly soundtrack. Never heard anyone use music from that game before!
Really good narration.
you had me invested the full 1 hour and 4 minutes 🤣
14:43 I like how you just rammed that poor dude off the road, without reacting to it in the slightest, stone faced killer move right there.
Its the same face I make when I receive good news. lol
Was leaving ASM on part of the challenge too? I thought I was masochistic but you sir, are something else ;p Good video mate
I turned it off when TeaKanji told me it was making me slower lol. happens like near the end though
love the Plok! music in the background
I love the use of the Unreal Tournament 1999 music
Very Nice!!
Just a tip, reducing the rear ride height (if you can) can regain any grip loss you may have from other setup changes. As a matter of fact, this effect is so exaggerated in GT4, I'd be careful not to overdo it and induce understeer.
such a great video
Hi, nice video, and quite funny to see, how you tortured yoursefl :D But I need to ask, I saw you played it on PCSX, what is your setup please, what gamepad you use, and did you had an error, where while turning, controls just stucks on turning and acceleration and no other buttons, even start, works (you need to reconnnect gamepad, everywhere else no stucks), and if, how did you solved it please? My pc is 5600x, 16gb ram, rx 6700 xt, xbox elite 1 and stock xbox one gamepad (non X, S, or series X, S). Thanks a lot! And good job here :)
I love using the Suzuki Alto Works in the early races, and it's always a 200 point race, despite it being faster lol
I felt my Neurons Activating the moment I heard San Francisco Night OST, rare to see someone using Driver soundtrack in videos
Me: Ooh, I'm interested to see how noted Punch-out badass Pap does in a game that has nothing to do with boxing
Pap: Okay, so next up is Boxer Spirit
Me: Waitwut
So is a Boxer engine just Mike Tyson throwing uppercuts at the ground from the back seat?
Next video "How many Mike Tyson Uppercuts does it take to power a v8 engine?"
You won me over when you started playing Driver 1 music
I appreciate that you don't upscale or smooth textures too much, the aliasing and blurriness are integral to the ps2 vibe
I didnt because i dont know how to lol
@@Papamanual Ah if you use an emulator like pcsx2 you can change rendering resolution in the graphics settings to render models at higher quality and there are other options to smooth textures. It all looks sort of weird to me but it makes the game look newer
Thank you TH-cam Algorythm. Lovely Video!
The Subaru B4 had the oil lamp turned on, was that an active choice to nudge the points in your direction or did you just forget to change the oil since it was a used car?
Anyway great video, loved the analytical way of presenting!
Not changing the oil was always a strategy because it would be an irreversible upgrade that changes the A-Spec value of my car (technically the oil can go bad again but it'll take along time to grind the miles)
Well, this is tough. But let me say one thing: the hardest challenge in GT4 is obtain gold in all licenses. If you can do this, You can win almost races with use Mazda 787B easily. You just have to drive clean, make no mistakes. But the margin of error to take gold in licenses is minor. Misson 34 is harder than anything else too. I recomend play this game with a good steering wheel.
the Mazda Mazda 6 concept can be used in clubman cup and rally events but thats about it
11:30 It just occurred to me that the Toyota Sports 800 is a boxer car, and I've seen somebody win boxer spirit in it in a Toyota only challenge. It was 200 point as well IIRC.
I did see that about a month after I made this video lol. There are apparently a small handful of cars with boxer engines that are not Subaru or RUF
@@Papamanual 2CV Type A Citroen 1954,
Beetle 1100 Standard (Type-11) Volkswagen 1949,
Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) Volkswagen 1968 and
Sports 800 Toyota 1965 are also Boxer engine cars in GT4.
Awesome vid. The only "improvement" on the challenge would be winning every 200 point race.
Thats true, although i didnt feel like making a 10 hour vid lol
that must have been torture. but very interesting!
oh shit, I've thought about doing 200 point playthrough before, this is gonna be good
39:20 "I don't really want to win like that" also pap 14:46
excellent, intelligent content. please keep up the good work.
Are you playing on PCSX2? If you turn clamping mode to full it won't say full throttle or get ready at the bottom during the race. Also, in the game's screen settings, setting to 480 Progressive (I think it's called that? whichever is the one between 480p and 1080p) will make the video much clearer
Oh, just realized it looks like you fixed the clamping issue, the other fix might still help