1952, fourth grade, my cursive was good enough to be promoted from pencil to a dip pen! I was so proud to have ink in the bottle in the inkwell on my desk. The blobs of ink on my first pages could have been used for a Rorschach test. Thus began my love of pen and ink.
I'm seriously jealous that they taught you how to write with a dip pen when you were in school. I don't personally want to live in the 50s, but I wish some things survived in the present day.
I bought the kakimori dip pen on my Japan trip just before I fell into the fountain pen rabbit hole, and I'm so glad I did~ I also bought my first ink ever there~ Now I have a million samples, and the dip pen has been very useful ♡
i actually love long writing with my Iro-Utsushi yes i have to dip it over and over again but that's all part of the ritual. it is very relaxing and helps put me in a zen. i could not think of a more enjoyable experience. only issue i have with it is that it does not travel well. for that i go back to a fountain pen. and if absolutely necessary a roller ball.
I got the hokoro fude dip pen last time, and gotta say, it’s becoming my favorite pen. I probably use it more than my fountain pens for journal entries. It holds a lot of ink, you can easily get a full two pages with just one dip, and I love how easy it is to change colors. I’m definitely getting more nib widths on my next visit.
I am new to fountain pens and I want to get one dip pen for testing inks and short notes. However when I started looking into dip pens I began with artist dip pens. Those pens are So Much Cheaper than what I am seeing for the “fountain pen customer.” As an artist I know we can and do spend money on our tools. But I am beginning to think that there are manufacturers and retailers out there chuckling (all the way to bank) about how much fountain pen enthusiasts are willing to spend. This is a helpful video but I think I’ll stick to the artist dip pens, save money and have the same results which is simple ink testing and short writing.
I pretty much exclusively use the Pilot Iro-utsushi (M) for my writing, and that's long form. The dipping doesn't bother me. I don't even really notice it. The fountain pen nib is just lovely. Unfortunately, my experience with the Hocoro wasn't as great; super scratchy, and the nib wouldn't fix into the pen body, so it shifted while writing. Fixed by putting tissue in the channel, but not great.
Ive had a glass dip pen for a long time and just received the Kakimori from y'all about a month ago. Absolutely love it and the note you wrote Daisy was awesome! I loved the personal touch.
I have a glass dip pen and a Hocoro 1.0 mm and I love them for testing inks. The glass pen is also great if I just want to add a short paragraph in a different ink to what I've currently got inked up. I can manage about half an A5 (in my TINY handwriting) from a full dip with my glass pen, quite impressive. I really like the look of the Kakimori, I think I will have to add one of those to my collection too. Thank you!
The Sailor Hacoro is fantastic. I use it to test inks out before putting them into a 1911 or Tuzu and since it's a Sailor medium, I know the way it shows on the paper will be consistent with the others. It's also great, as you said, to take the nib off and cap it.
Thank you so much for your comparisons. I’m interested in dip pen. At first I was thinking of glass pen because of its pretty. But I think Sailor is better. I like the idea of hidden nib. Even it’s quite expensive in Thailand but I feel my beloved pen is safe. Thank you so much for sharing. 😊
What a great presentation. I loved this explanation of the different kind of dip pens. I ordered the Hocoro with the Fude Nib, but it hasn't arrived yet. I want to see someone write in Japanese with this pen.
Thanks for this very timely explanation. I am looking for dip pens to use with waterproof pen ink for sketching and washes. From this video, I'm thinking about the Kakimori brass nib pen but wonder about using it with waterproof pen in such as Octopus inks. Thanks again.
I like a Tachikawa stainless steel flex g nib on a dip pen. I use Platinum Carbon waterproof ink with it for drawing. I can then use water colour paints over the lines without smudging.
I have 2 glass dips and numerous pens with different nibs. The lines with dips I find to be very distinctive; they're fun, but a few of my obsevations: Nibs are surprisingly inexpensive,dips all have different personalities, you may encounter issues related to the viscosity of your ink,or the nib itself.Wash the nib after each use IMMEDIATELY, dont let ink dry on the nib. I gently scrub them with a toothbrush while rinsing, then DRY. Nibs may look nasty and perform well; others may look great but have issues. Abandoned fountain pens can be used as dips, experiment and be surprised!! Have no idea why you would have a" swatch only " nib, but they are cheap,....so. Also, comments about super expensive fountains are spot on..I use platinum preppys..HEAR ME OUT...the best value in ALL of pen world...GP, BP, dip and,of course, fountain...Hands Down!! Each to his own, however. TY.
Why do you dislike fountain pens? They are basically just a dip pen with the ink reservoir placed internally instead of externally. And there are many more options for nibs that tend to be much higher quality and less scratchy than those on dip pens.
tried the pilot, lovely, the sailor with the bend top is cool too, but why is that brass nib so expensive?! the nib plus the holder is outrageously priced
Could anyone answer why there don’t seem to be any fountain pens that have flexible tines that open with pressure to make different line widths (or if there are any, what they are!)? I’ve seen videos where people modify inexpensive JinHao pens to hold Comic G nibs, but it would be so great to buy a pen specifically designed for artists and calligraphers who want that quality of dip pen nibs that can hold as much ink as a fountain pen! Making broad lines obviously uses more ink than thin lines, but some fountain pens, like eye dropper pens, can hold a *lot* of ink! I guess the feed underneath the metal of a fountain pen nib is not flexible, but there should be some way to make it so that the tines can slide open and closed over it. I would also love to know more about what it is that the expert nib grinder (shaper?) you had visit the store a couple of summers ago, actually does to the nibs? I’m wondering if he can modify any pens to be more flexible? I remember watching one video of his visit but I can’t find it again. What is his name so I can look up that video and online? Thanks for any answers! BTW, I love my Kakimori nib that I bought from you guys a few years ago! Such a great design - one of those things that one would expect to find in the MoMa gift shop (though I’d rather spend my money at Yoseka now - which is saying a lot because I’ve loved that particular gift shop since I was a kid!). ❤
Flex nib fountain pens have always been something I dreamed of, but in this hobby I learned that most fountain pens with dependable flex nibs would be vintage pens. You'd need to be able to modify and fix up your pens in order to use them successfully. I believe the feed material is the main reason most fountain pens cannot keep up with a flex nib today. Recently, it does seem like some companies are trying to return to flex though. I think the modern ones on the market that offer flex nibs are the Magna Carta Mag 600 (supposedly the "best" modern flex) and the Pilot Falcon (though this is much stiffer). A small company called the Desiderata Pen Company created pens specifically to keep up with the Zebra G nibs for a modern flex as well. My information is a few years old but hopefully this helps you on your modern flex journey.
There are TONS of flexible fountain pen nibs on the market actually. Including the ones listed in the comment above mine, there are also the Pilot Custom 742, 743 and 912 with FA nibs, and my personal favorite is the Fountain Pen Revolution Flex Nib with an upgraded ebonite feed. Leonardo pens also have options for both steel and gold flex nibs. My Pilot Custom 743 with an FA nib also has an upgraded ebonite feed from the Flexible Nib Factory and it is almost as good as a vintage wet noodle imo. So if you can _definitely_ find a fountain pen with a flexible nib today. You just might need to upgrade the feed, but it is absolutely doable!
@@z1LeaFTry the Fountain Pen Revolution Flex Nib with upgraded ebonite feed (you can get one on sale for like $170) or if you want a bit more of a “grail” pen, try the Pilot Custom 743 with an FA nib and an upgraded ebonite feed from Flexible Nib Factory. You can thank me later! They are like writing with vintage wet noodles but for a quarter of half the price (and you can replace the nib easily if you go too hard and spring it on accident)!
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1952, fourth grade, my cursive was good enough to be promoted from pencil to a dip pen! I was so proud to have ink in the bottle in the inkwell on my desk. The blobs of ink on my first pages could have been used for a Rorschach test. Thus began my love of pen and ink.
I'm seriously jealous that they taught you how to write with a dip pen when you were in school. I don't personally want to live in the 50s, but I wish some things survived in the present day.
Your comment put a smile on this boomers face I remember this as well as desks with the holders and inkwell.
I bought the kakimori dip pen on my Japan trip just before I fell into the fountain pen rabbit hole, and I'm so glad I did~
I also bought my first ink ever there~
Now I have a million samples, and the dip pen has been very useful ♡
i actually love long writing with my Iro-Utsushi yes i have to dip it over and over again but that's all part of the ritual. it is very relaxing and helps put me in a zen. i could not think of a more enjoyable experience. only issue i have with it is that it does not travel well. for that i go back to a fountain pen. and if absolutely necessary a roller ball.
I got the hokoro fude dip pen last time, and gotta say, it’s becoming my favorite pen. I probably use it more than my fountain pens for journal entries. It holds a lot of ink, you can easily get a full two pages with just one dip, and I love how easy it is to change colors. I’m definitely getting more nib widths on my next visit.
I am new to fountain pens and I want to get one dip pen for testing inks and short notes. However when I started looking into dip pens I began with artist dip pens. Those pens are So Much Cheaper than what I am seeing for the “fountain pen customer.” As an artist I know we can and do spend money on our tools. But I am beginning to think that there are manufacturers and retailers out there chuckling (all the way to bank) about how much fountain pen enthusiasts are willing to spend. This is a helpful video but I think I’ll stick to the artist dip pens, save money and have the same results which is simple ink testing and short writing.
Literally discovered dip pens last night via Kakimori... So this was well timed haha
I mostly use mapping dip pens, which are made as a full circular tube. Great for very fine work.
I am literally in the market for a dip pen! Yoseka never misses!
I pretty much exclusively use the Pilot Iro-utsushi (M) for my writing, and that's long form. The dipping doesn't bother me. I don't even really notice it. The fountain pen nib is just lovely. Unfortunately, my experience with the Hocoro wasn't as great; super scratchy, and the nib wouldn't fix into the pen body, so it shifted while writing. Fixed by putting tissue in the channel, but not great.
Ive had a glass dip pen for a long time and just received the Kakimori from y'all about a month ago. Absolutely love it and the note you wrote Daisy was awesome! I loved the personal touch.
I have a glass dip pen and a Hocoro 1.0 mm and I love them for testing inks. The glass pen is also great if I just want to add a short paragraph in a different ink to what I've currently got inked up. I can manage about half an A5 (in my TINY handwriting) from a full dip with my glass pen, quite impressive. I really like the look of the Kakimori, I think I will have to add one of those to my collection too. Thank you!
got myself a hocoro after watching your previous video about it and i'm excited to try it out!
Great video! Thanks for sharing your wisdom and thoughts.
The Sailor Hacoro is fantastic. I use it to test inks out before putting them into a 1911 or Tuzu and since it's a Sailor medium, I know the way it shows on the paper will be consistent with the others. It's also great, as you said, to take the nib off and cap it.
So glad to hear you are a fan too! I love the Hocoro!!
brilliant video, so well explained ☺☺☺
Thank you so much for your comparisons. I’m interested in dip pen. At first I was thinking of glass pen because of its pretty. But I think Sailor is better. I like the idea of hidden nib. Even it’s quite expensive in Thailand but I feel my beloved pen is safe. Thank you so much for sharing. 😊
I have ordered my first glass dip pen with ink, and look forward to write with it.
What a great presentation. I loved this explanation of the different kind of dip pens. I ordered the Hocoro with the Fude Nib, but it hasn't arrived yet. I want to see someone write in Japanese with this pen.
Thanks for this very timely explanation. I am looking for dip pens to use with waterproof pen ink for sketching and washes. From this video, I'm thinking about the Kakimori brass nib pen but wonder about using it with waterproof pen in such as Octopus inks. Thanks again.
I recently got into using fountain pens. This is interesting. I may try it
I like a Tachikawa stainless steel flex g nib on a dip pen. I use Platinum Carbon waterproof ink with it for drawing.
I can then use water colour paints over the lines without smudging.
This is what I want to be able to do - write and sketch with it, then use watercolor over it
Thank you, this helped me to understand the various types of dip pens.
I got a nice glass dip pen from dollar tree. It’s real pretty. It was a good way for me to try dip pens without spending a lot.
I have 2 glass dips and numerous pens with different nibs. The lines with dips I find to be very distinctive; they're fun, but a few of my obsevations: Nibs are surprisingly inexpensive,dips all have different personalities, you may encounter issues related to the viscosity of your ink,or the nib itself.Wash the nib after each use IMMEDIATELY, dont let ink dry on the nib. I gently scrub them with a toothbrush while rinsing, then DRY. Nibs may look nasty and perform well; others may look great but have issues. Abandoned fountain pens can be used as dips, experiment and be surprised!! Have no idea why you would have a" swatch only " nib, but they are cheap,....so. Also, comments about super expensive fountains are spot on..I use platinum preppys..HEAR ME OUT...the best value in ALL of pen world...GP, BP, dip and,of course, fountain...Hands Down!! Each to his own, however. TY.
Excellent presentation!!! Thanks.
Awesome video, Daisy! I learned a lot. 🤓
I dislike fountain pens but Love dip pens- so happy to see this video!😊
Why do you dislike fountain pens? They are basically just a dip pen with the ink reservoir placed internally instead of externally. And there are many more options for nibs that tend to be much higher quality and less scratchy than those on dip pens.
I have NO intensions on using any of this, but I sure did enjoy watching about it!
awesome video!
Well THANKS A LOT YOSEKA!!! (fake sarcasm) Now I need to know how that glass ones are made, ugh this curios brain of mine never leaves me alone.
tried the pilot, lovely, the sailor with the bend top is cool too, but why is that brass nib so expensive?! the nib plus the holder is outrageously priced
I am new at drawing with foundation pens could you show me what you do
I have three Venician BALL POINTs. Very different from the fine line. Had them for 20 years and still cannot figure exactly how to use
Could anyone answer why there don’t seem to be any fountain pens that have flexible tines that open with pressure to make different line widths (or if there are any, what they are!)? I’ve seen videos where people modify inexpensive JinHao pens to hold Comic G nibs, but it would be so great to buy a pen specifically designed for artists and calligraphers who want that quality of dip pen nibs that can hold as much ink as a fountain pen! Making broad lines obviously uses more ink than thin lines, but some fountain pens, like eye dropper pens, can hold a *lot* of ink! I guess the feed underneath the metal of a fountain pen nib is not flexible, but there should be some way to make it so that the tines can slide open and closed over it.
I would also love to know more about what it is that the expert nib grinder (shaper?) you had visit the store a couple of summers ago, actually does to the nibs? I’m wondering if he can modify any pens to be more flexible? I remember watching one video of his visit but I can’t find it again. What is his name so I can look up that video and online? Thanks for any answers! BTW, I love my Kakimori nib that I bought from you guys a few years ago! Such a great design - one of those things that one would expect to find in the MoMa gift shop (though I’d rather spend my money at Yoseka now - which is saying a lot because I’ve loved that particular gift shop since I was a kid!). ❤
Flex nib fountain pens have always been something I dreamed of, but in this hobby I learned that most fountain pens with dependable flex nibs would be vintage pens. You'd need to be able to modify and fix up your pens in order to use them successfully. I believe the feed material is the main reason most fountain pens cannot keep up with a flex nib today. Recently, it does seem like some companies are trying to return to flex though. I think the modern ones on the market that offer flex nibs are the Magna Carta Mag 600 (supposedly the "best" modern flex) and the Pilot Falcon (though this is much stiffer). A small company called the Desiderata Pen Company created pens specifically to keep up with the Zebra G nibs for a modern flex as well. My information is a few years old but hopefully this helps you on your modern flex journey.
There are TONS of flexible fountain pen nibs on the market actually. Including the ones listed in the comment above mine, there are also the Pilot Custom 742, 743 and 912 with FA nibs, and my personal favorite is the Fountain Pen Revolution Flex Nib with an upgraded ebonite feed. Leonardo pens also have options for both steel and gold flex nibs. My Pilot Custom 743 with an FA nib also has an upgraded ebonite feed from the Flexible Nib Factory and it is almost as good as a vintage wet noodle imo.
So if you can _definitely_ find a fountain pen with a flexible nib today. You just might need to upgrade the feed, but it is absolutely doable!
@@z1LeaFTry the Fountain Pen Revolution Flex Nib with upgraded ebonite feed (you can get one on sale for like $170) or if you want a bit more of a “grail” pen, try the Pilot Custom 743 with an FA nib and an upgraded ebonite feed from Flexible Nib Factory. You can thank me later! They are like writing with vintage wet noodles but for a quarter of half the price (and you can replace the nib easily if you go too hard and spring it on accident)!
There are plenty of fountain pens like that.
I have water base and oil base stamp ink. Will it be good for use in dip pens?
Probably best to use a pen ink for dip pens. The stamp ink will probably be quite hard to get cleaned. A swirl in water won't be enough
What’s the name of the white one
For some of us it was the Pendemic
I would had spilled all that red tilting the bottle over to read it. #clumsyyyyyy(I am)
some dip pens are made for art, usually manga
How long does these dip pen nibs last usually? I bought a few and I'm loving drawing with a "Baignol & Farjon Academique" so much.
@@AmbietsRato if you take good care of them usually at least 2 years
@@shing1239 Thanks for the reply. Keep up the good work!